A new poll has revealed New Zealander's thoughts on whether the government should replace the Defence Force's struggling 757s, and July 1 marks the start of a raft of new changes brought in by the government.
Joining Nick to talk through that, as well as what we can expect in the government's new quarterly action plan to be released this week, was Newstalk ZB political editor Jason Walls.
Nick also asked Jason about the debate between Joe Biden and Donald Trump over the weekend, and where this leaves the Biden campaign.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Wellington Mornings podcast with Nick Mills
from news Talk, said B direct from News Talks Edb's
team at parliaments. The bee Hive.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Buzz joining us for the buzz is news Talk, said
be Political editor Jason Walls.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Good morning, Jason, Good morning Neck. How are you this rainy,
dreary gray Wellington day.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Well, I had a fantastic muckety he weekend, so I'm
celebrating that. So I'm still on a bit of a high.
I thought it was really well, and I said started
the show today by saying Christopher Lux and you can
pass this on to Chrissy when he walks past your
next But I thought he did really well with a
speech he learnt from White Tongui weekend where he got
through political and a speech. The speech at Matadiki was
(00:53):
all about Matadiki. Didn't mention politics once. I thought he did,
He learned and did a really good job. There's my
positive thought.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
For the day.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Terrific. I'll pass it on to him as m.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah, I'm sure he'll really enjoy that. There was a
poll out there this morning on the Defense for seven
five seven by Talbert Mills. Yes, there is a family
connection just threw that one on there that says suggested,
I think the numbers were really high that we should
get a new plane.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
I was actually surprised with how high they were as well.
So the numbers showed that fifty one point five percent
of people who were polled thought that we should get
new planes to break down at the old Defense Force one.
And that compares with twenty seven point six who said no,
and twenty point nine who were unsure. So it's not
one of those poles where it's quite close. There's a
big difference between the yes's and the nose on this
(01:40):
one here, and I would say that probably reflects the
fact that every time this plane breaks down at his
front page news and has now kind of taken on
a bit of a life of its own in terms
of its being a bit of a joke. The last
time it happened was only a week or so ago
in Papua New Guinea, and I remember I was actually
there when it happened. And I've been on so many
of these trips now where the plane is broken down,
(02:00):
you get a bit of a sixth sense as to
what's going on. And I remember sitting there for a
few minut longer than we were told and seeing some
very worried looking comms people. Now I noticed the comms people,
not the Defense force people, because they think, oh, it's okay,
we'll have this fixed soon. It's the comms people that
are freaking out because there's all the journalists there that
are what's going to be answered, asking all the questions.
(02:22):
So this has happened so many times now, so there's
actually no surprise to see this number as high as
it is when compared to the nose when it comes
to this sort of question. But it kind of goes
against what the Prime Minister has been saying about how
key we just don't want to see this amount of
money spent on new planes during a cost of living crisis.
So it will likely be hundreds of millions of dollars
(02:45):
to get some new planes, or that is according to
Judith Collins. But people seem to be able to stomach
that cost. I mean, I don't think this is going
to shift the dial for the government all that much.
Chris Buckson did say on Friday that they still have
a plan in terms of procurement, in looking into new
options and that is well underway. At the moment. So
I'm not sure if this pole is actually going to
haten that, but it's good to have a little bit
(03:06):
of data so when this happens for the next time,
we actually know what the public sentiment is on this one.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
And I think the public sentiment is okay. No one
likes spending millions of dollars on something that they can't
see their uncle getting an operation, or their house stopped
being broken into, or their children being educated. But reality is,
this is part of what we need to have going
and we need to have it reliable, so we need
it und well.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Oh well, no, I think you're absolutely right that the
challenge for the government is to do all those other
things that you're mentioning as well as this plane as well.
And if they can do that, then I think that
they might just ward off some of that negative sentiment
from the public.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Okay, the government made a big announcement yesterday. Okay, let
us into the secret. What was the big announcement.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Well, it was more of just sort of seeing what
is happening today on July first, seeing that the cost
of living this is, according to the Prime Minister, will
be eased for many of new Zealanders with the changes
kicking in, and he's talking about the abolishing of the
Auckland regional fuel tax for motorist which is eleven point
five sense per litera and he says that they're going
to be better off from that quote, we are determined
(04:11):
to reduce the cost of living pressures for hard working
New Zealanders and this as well as other July first
changes will go some far far and easying those pressures.
So he also talks about the new Family Boost reimbursement
that's come in today, and that is that it will
be a big help. He says for family with young children,
you could claim back twenty five percent of their early
childhood education fees to a maximum fortnightly amount of one
(04:34):
hundred and fifty dollars. So it's some pretty significant changes
that are coming in and he's going to be lauding
these over the next couple of weeks. And of course
we've got those tax cut changes coming in soon as well,
which he'll be will no doubt here quite a lot
of that from the Prime Minissistancy's obviously very proud of those.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I was very jealous of that eleven cents a later,
very jealous because we don't get anything here.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
No, No, you've got too left leaning of a council
I think for that sort of for that sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Okay, the Prime Minister's expected to outline his next quarterly
plan this week.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (05:08):
What are you hearing? What is it going to be?
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Yeah, well I'm hearing that it's going to be about infrastructure,
and infrastructure is going to be a key part of
this quarterly plan. You're not going to hear all too
much about it, I would say. I mean, we heard
quite a lot about the first one hundred day plan
because it's a bit of a novelty. It's the first
one hundred days, and then the second quarter plan. You know,
I had some stuff in there. I mean it was
about there was a thirty six point action plan and
(05:33):
it was around taking steps towards law and order and
other things like that, and a lot of them were
tied up in the legislation and we saw actually last Thursday,
Parliament was an urgency and rushed a bunch of those
three just so they could take them off their quarter
plan or their second quarterly plan. It looked like so
going forward, we're expecting Luxeon to announce it either today
(05:54):
or at some point this week, what exactly it is
that the government will be focusing on this quarter. And
as I say, you know, these are not going to
have the flashy headlines that we saw before. People aren't
as interested in it as they once were. But it's
quite good for people that are interesting or interested in
governance and interested to see what the government is doing next.
They get a bit of a bit of a blueprint
(06:16):
as to what the government is doing. So it's quite
helpful for people like that.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
I want to throw you in the deep end here,
and it's a could suddenly, Diane Wellington. I'm throwing you
in the deep end of the I'm going to ask
you a question. What are your thoughts on the Great debate?
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Oh, Biden versus Trump, no.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Me versus you? Who do you think I'm talking about?
Speaker 3 (06:39):
You know, honestly I watched it with a sense of,
you know, despair, because on the one side you've got
you know, I mean, Trump is a convicted felon. I
don't think he's really fit to be in office, somebody
like that. But at the same time, you've got Joe Biden,
who is a bumbling mess and who's a stumbling buffoon
that can't string a sentence together. And it was really
really hard watch knowing that it's I know, and I
(07:00):
know this isn't a novel take, but it's no one
is very good. I just can't believe that we got
to a point where we've got such flaw candidates in
this sort of massive, massive election like this. But on
the other hand, and I will just between me, you
and your tens of thousands of listeners, it does make
me quietly quite excited for the next debate, because it's
like watching a car crash in slow motion. You just
(07:22):
cannot look away.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I can. I ask you what your thoughts with you?
You think he will be there at the next debate?
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Yeah, I mean it seems it seems so. He has
come out strongly and said that he's going to be there,
but you know, the pressure might get too great for
him and he might be surpassed by somebody like Gavin Newsome,
who is the California governor, who seems to be waiting
in the wings. So you know, people say, oh, you
can't do that. It's it's it's too late in the process.
It will never work. To those people, I say, look
(07:51):
at what happened with Jacinda ardn Ye. She's a textbook
example of somebody coming in lace and finishing strong.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Now you already owe me a coffee and we haven't
caught up yet, so I'm going to go another coffee.
I don't think he's going to be there come election day.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
I think he will, so I'll take you off on
that one, all right.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Thank you as always, it's really always a pleasure. Thanks
for all the good work you do. Really appreciate you
coming on our show and being part of it. You're
a great guy. Jason Walls, who's the News Talks hered
Be Political Editor.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
For more from Wellington Mornings with Nick Mills, Listen live
to News Talks here Be Wellington from nine am weekdays,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio
You're listening to the Wellington Mornings podcast with Nick Mills
from news Talk, said B direct from News Talks Edb's
team at parliaments. The bee Hive.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Buzz joining us for the buzz is news Talk, said
be Political editor Jason Walls.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Good morning, Jason, Good morning Neck. How are you this rainy,
dreary gray Wellington day.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Well, I had a fantastic muckety he weekend, so I'm
celebrating that. So I'm still on a bit of a high.
I thought it was really well, and I said started
the show today by saying Christopher Lux and you can
pass this on to Chrissy when he walks past your
next But I thought he did really well with a
speech he learnt from White Tongui weekend where he got
through political and a speech. The speech at Matadiki was
(00:53):
all about Matadiki. Didn't mention politics once. I thought he did,
He learned and did a really good job. There's my
positive thought.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
For the day.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Terrific. I'll pass it on to him as m.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah, I'm sure he'll really enjoy that. There was a
poll out there this morning on the Defense for seven
five seven by Talbert Mills. Yes, there is a family
connection just threw that one on there that says suggested,
I think the numbers were really high that we should
get a new plane.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
I was actually surprised with how high they were as well.
So the numbers showed that fifty one point five percent
of people who were polled thought that we should get
new planes to break down at the old Defense Force one.
And that compares with twenty seven point six who said no,
and twenty point nine who were unsure. So it's not
one of those poles where it's quite close. There's a
big difference between the yes's and the nose on this
(01:40):
one here, and I would say that probably reflects the
fact that every time this plane breaks down at his
front page news and has now kind of taken on
a bit of a life of its own in terms
of its being a bit of a joke. The last
time it happened was only a week or so ago
in Papua New Guinea, and I remember I was actually
there when it happened. And I've been on so many
of these trips now where the plane is broken down,
(02:00):
you get a bit of a sixth sense as to
what's going on. And I remember sitting there for a
few minut longer than we were told and seeing some
very worried looking comms people. Now I noticed the comms people,
not the Defense force people, because they think, oh, it's okay,
we'll have this fixed soon. It's the comms people that
are freaking out because there's all the journalists there that
are what's going to be answered, asking all the questions.
(02:22):
So this has happened so many times now, so there's
actually no surprise to see this number as high as
it is when compared to the nose when it comes
to this sort of question. But it kind of goes
against what the Prime Minister has been saying about how
key we just don't want to see this amount of
money spent on new planes during a cost of living crisis.
So it will likely be hundreds of millions of dollars
(02:45):
to get some new planes, or that is according to
Judith Collins. But people seem to be able to stomach
that cost. I mean, I don't think this is going
to shift the dial for the government all that much.
Chris Buckson did say on Friday that they still have
a plan in terms of procurement, in looking into new
options and that is well underway. At the moment. So
I'm not sure if this pole is actually going to
haten that, but it's good to have a little bit
(03:06):
of data so when this happens for the next time,
we actually know what the public sentiment is on this one.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
And I think the public sentiment is okay. No one
likes spending millions of dollars on something that they can't
see their uncle getting an operation, or their house stopped
being broken into, or their children being educated. But reality is,
this is part of what we need to have going
and we need to have it reliable, so we need
it und well.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Oh well, no, I think you're absolutely right that the
challenge for the government is to do all those other
things that you're mentioning as well as this plane as well.
And if they can do that, then I think that
they might just ward off some of that negative sentiment
from the public.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Okay, the government made a big announcement yesterday. Okay, let
us into the secret. What was the big announcement.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Well, it was more of just sort of seeing what
is happening today on July first, seeing that the cost
of living this is, according to the Prime Minister, will
be eased for many of new Zealanders with the changes
kicking in, and he's talking about the abolishing of the
Auckland regional fuel tax for motorist which is eleven point
five sense per litera and he says that they're going
to be better off from that quote, we are determined
(04:11):
to reduce the cost of living pressures for hard working
New Zealanders and this as well as other July first
changes will go some far far and easying those pressures.
So he also talks about the new Family Boost reimbursement
that's come in today, and that is that it will
be a big help. He says for family with young children,
you could claim back twenty five percent of their early
childhood education fees to a maximum fortnightly amount of one
(04:34):
hundred and fifty dollars. So it's some pretty significant changes
that are coming in and he's going to be lauding
these over the next couple of weeks. And of course
we've got those tax cut changes coming in soon as well,
which he'll be will no doubt here quite a lot
of that from the Prime Minissistancy's obviously very proud of those.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I was very jealous of that eleven cents a later,
very jealous because we don't get anything here.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
No, No, you've got too left leaning of a council
I think for that sort of for that sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Okay, the Prime Minister's expected to outline his next quarterly
plan this week.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (05:08):
What are you hearing? What is it going to be?
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Yeah, well I'm hearing that it's going to be about infrastructure,
and infrastructure is going to be a key part of
this quarterly plan. You're not going to hear all too
much about it, I would say. I mean, we heard
quite a lot about the first one hundred day plan
because it's a bit of a novelty. It's the first
one hundred days, and then the second quarter plan. You know,
I had some stuff in there. I mean it was
about there was a thirty six point action plan and
(05:33):
it was around taking steps towards law and order and
other things like that, and a lot of them were
tied up in the legislation and we saw actually last Thursday,
Parliament was an urgency and rushed a bunch of those
three just so they could take them off their quarter
plan or their second quarterly plan. It looked like so
going forward, we're expecting Luxeon to announce it either today
(05:54):
or at some point this week, what exactly it is
that the government will be focusing on this quarter. And
as I say, you know, these are not going to
have the flashy headlines that we saw before. People aren't
as interested in it as they once were. But it's
quite good for people that are interesting or interested in
governance and interested to see what the government is doing next.
They get a bit of a bit of a blueprint
(06:16):
as to what the government is doing. So it's quite
helpful for people like that.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
I want to throw you in the deep end here,
and it's a could suddenly, Diane Wellington. I'm throwing you
in the deep end of the I'm going to ask
you a question. What are your thoughts on the Great debate?
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Oh, Biden versus Trump, no.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Me versus you? Who do you think I'm talking about?
Speaker 3 (06:39):
You know, honestly I watched it with a sense of,
you know, despair, because on the one side you've got
you know, I mean, Trump is a convicted felon. I
don't think he's really fit to be in office, somebody
like that. But at the same time, you've got Joe Biden,
who is a bumbling mess and who's a stumbling buffoon
that can't string a sentence together. And it was really
really hard watch knowing that it's I know, and I
(07:00):
know this isn't a novel take, but it's no one
is very good. I just can't believe that we got
to a point where we've got such flaw candidates in
this sort of massive, massive election like this. But on
the other hand, and I will just between me, you
and your tens of thousands of listeners, it does make
me quietly quite excited for the next debate, because it's
like watching a car crash in slow motion. You just
(07:22):
cannot look away.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I can. I ask you what your thoughts with you?
You think he will be there at the next debate?
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Yeah, I mean it seems it seems so. He has
come out strongly and said that he's going to be there,
but you know, the pressure might get too great for
him and he might be surpassed by somebody like Gavin Newsome,
who is the California governor, who seems to be waiting
in the wings. So you know, people say, oh, you
can't do that. It's it's it's too late in the process.
It will never work. To those people, I say, look
(07:51):
at what happened with Jacinda ardn Ye. She's a textbook
example of somebody coming in lace and finishing strong.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Now you already owe me a coffee and we haven't
caught up yet, so I'm going to go another coffee.
I don't think he's going to be there come election day.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
I think he will, so I'll take you off on
that one, all right.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Thank you as always, it's really always a pleasure. Thanks
for all the good work you do. Really appreciate you
coming on our show and being part of it. You're
a great guy. Jason Walls, who's the News Talks hered
Be Political Editor.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
For more from Wellington Mornings with Nick Mills, Listen live
to News Talks here Be Wellington from nine am weekdays,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio
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