June 23, 2024 • 10 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Sport, the Latest from the Land and just great rock.
It's the Country Sport Breakfast with Brian Kelly on Gold Sport,
your home of live commentary.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Well, big congratulations to the Blues. As we saw on
Saturday night, they dominated the Chiefs to take out the
twenty twenty four Super Rugby title at Eden Park, winning
forty one points to ten, Caleb Clark scoring a hat
trick of tries, joining us on the show this morning,
he looked back form all Back and Gold Sport commentator
and played for Auckland as well and straw Morning.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
A morning and good morning b K. With a big
smile on my face. You're finally coming home after a.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Few years, well a few years twenty one mate, that's
how long it took.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Yeah, No, it's been siddly been a long time. But
I think, as we've mentioned over our sort of commentary
on these Monday mornings, you know it's been building nine
years and that for sort of two or three or
four years now. So yeah, I guess all the stars aligned,
didn't they on Saturday night and there was a brilliantpressive performance.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Yeah, almost a perfect game by the Blues, wasn't it.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Yeah, I think so and again, you know, we've sort
of acknowledged how they've played this season under then Kaida,
plus all the other coaches they have in their group.
And you know, they kept it pretty simple, didn't they.
But they executed perfectly and as you say, hardly faulted
through the eighty minutes. And yeah, it was a very
comprehensive final.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
How much do you think the weather played into the game.
I mean, the Chiefs really weren't able to play their
normal sort of running game of rugby, were they.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
No? And I think that was always going to be
the challenge, wasn't it. I Mean there was a contrasting
style of play in the Chiefs if you give them
too much space on a dry day, as you mentioned,
was you know, courties of artimam ckenzie and all their
pieces Stevenson that they have to attack. It was certainly
somewhat nullified, wasn't it? By the weather? And of course
(01:52):
it played into a very simple, direct, hard nosed approach
that the Blues have had all year And it.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Was great for the Blues getting Patrick trupy Loto. They're
ruled out of the season a couple of weeks back,
but he's scrapped up that knee and put in a
player of the game performance. What a performance.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
You know, it's just staring, wasn't it. You know, I
mean the mental toughness I suppose, and Patrick himself just
to get himself appeared for a final. And you know,
most people would have thought, oh, you know, maybe he'll
go for twenty or thirty or forty and you just
give his best. But as you say, I mean his
performance from the first minute it was inspirational. And I
mean not just having him around a team, but his
(02:31):
actual performance with the ball was unbelievable. So yeah, that
paid massive dividends for them, didn't it.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
And having a kire of you only, I mean he
scored a try his final appearance for the Blues as well.
I mean he played a blinder as well.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Yeah, I think you know, when you talk about a
team that's sort of been building over the years, you know,
Patrick and a kid, you know, don't mean there through
the tough times too, haven't they. They've certainly had a
lot of tough times over the years, you know, when
they just have underperformed. And for those two to put
in monumental performances which contributed to the win was great.
(03:07):
Wasn't It just shows you know that you can keep
on persevering, can you. And I guess the chocolates do
come at some point in time.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yeah, absolutely. And the two number tens I mean Harry
Plumber are blinder Damien McKenzie, I mean Plumber having a
cracking game. McKenzie seemed to just struggle. I guess in
the conditions.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
You think again, well, Plumber has also been just a revelation.
I mean he's predominantly been a twelve for Auckland and
the Blues, but making that nice transition back to ten.
And I think again, his style of play suits the
way that they've played all season, and he's got the
forwards going forward with his territorial game. He's wonderful in
the backfield defensively as well, taking all those high kicks,
(03:48):
and of course he was on point with his goal
kicking as well, So some real solidity in that position.
Of course, when you flick it around and look at McKenzie,
you know he plays a little unorthodox, unstructured rugby. Need
righty might have give him the ball nice and early
and they just didn't create the platform the Chiefs. So
his unbelievable ability to open a team up was certainly
(04:09):
restricted somewhat by that sp We'll talk about.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
The ol Black squad in just a moment, but do
you think Plumber maybe a smoky for the Abs this afternoon?
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Well yeah, I mean I'd never thought in a million
years this h had asked me that you should some
month to go. But it really just depends on what
they're looking for. B K. I mean, mckezy you the same. Obviously,
he's a shoeing, but you know, if they want someone
at an international level that can just matter a team
around the field and play pretty accurate football most weeks.
(04:41):
You know, he's not the worst, and as I say,
he's very good detensively and great in the backfield, which
most of the tens and fifteenth play now, So you know,
he certainly has played well enough to be to be
in Emuth.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
So one more before we talk about the all Black squad,
and let's talk about Vern Stern, Vern Carter. What what's
he brought do you think to the Blues this season
to see them break that twenty one year streak.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
I think, pure and simple, the simplicity. You know, he's
a hard nose and was a hard nose footballer himself,
and I think he just wanted to install some real
steel in this team, particularly numbers one to eight. And
you know, once those forwards and obviously the bigger group
of forwards they had brought into that policy, they found
out that that's probably where they should should have been
(05:31):
for many years. I mean, the big powerful ball runners
are good at cleaning rock, physical like the physical battle.
And because he dreaded a real simplistic approach, they just grew,
They blossomed, you know, from one week to the next.
And of course the backs that they had, the selections
they made, complimented that style of football, so you know,
(05:53):
miraculous really but when you strip it, when you strip
it all back, very simplistic approach, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Which is great. Pass been catching up with an Strawn
talking super rugby. Now we're going to talk to all
blacks this afternoon. First squad for Scott robertson. Who can
you see leading the side out? First off, that's the
big question. Who's going to be captain?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Well, I suppose the debate over the last few days
has been Addie Severe or Scott Barrett'd be more inclined
probably to stick with Scott Barrett. You know, he's a
sue and obviously for selection every week. Again the type
of player that we need, you know, to lead from
the front grive much like in the same white locked mold,
I guess, so it wouldn't be a surprise that he
(06:36):
gets selected. Yeah, but maybe you know Ardie Savia his lieutenant,
So yeah, that's probably where they'd sit with that.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
We'll talk about the dark horses now. My pick for
one of the dark horses is going to be in
the front row the hook at Ricky rick Attelly. He's
just had a great season with the Blues, isn't he
He is?
Speaker 1 (06:55):
And I mean I don't like totally agree with you.
I don't think he is a dark horse. I think
he should be there. I mean he's been on point
and what you're going to remember to be care We
talk about picking form players and you know, if you
look at the form hookers and the competition, I mean,
he's right up there with Tokyaha and of course he's
injured at the moment, so you're real surprised if I
(07:16):
can tell you missed out.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Sam Darry uncapped, he hasn't received a camp. I mean,
the big, the tall Blues performer. What do you think
of him?
Speaker 1 (07:25):
No, no, no, you should be having your selectors whistle mate,
because okay, what you're naming all of these another player?
I mean we haven't got big locking stocks, have we.
I mean you don't have Patrick two plot as an
explosive lock. You've got Barrett as well obviously can play
there and there. He's just a roll your sleeves up
and get the job done. At an international level now,
particular when you play South Africa and in England and France,
(07:48):
you need a big, strong, physical lock and as he's
one of those, and he's done it all season.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
And in the back line, what about half back? Any
uncapped players there that you like?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
I'd definitely throwing no hope him. To be honest, I
think he is the future. He's got his multi skilled.
I know he's young, but he's just one of those
players for mine that's just going to get better and
better and particularly and that all that environment. I think
he's one potentially you know who could get in there.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Another one that I liked through the Super Rugby season
out of the Hurricanes has been Reuben Love.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Yeah. An interesting one really because if you look at
all the lieutenants in the ten shit around the country.
You know, again we don't have a lot that have
played at the highest level internationally. And when you look
at our fullbacks as well, of which we're even love
can play both ten and fifteen and that's the same.
I think that's a position for mine, those two positions
ten and fifteen, which are intriguing in terms of selection
(08:49):
because you're not picking players, as I say, with a
wealth of experience, so you're going to be blooding some
relatively new players or in the experienced players at an
international level in those positions. And of course you know
successful teams need the very best in those spots. Yep.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
All right, well we'll look forward to that announcement this
afternoon and personally you and coaching Dilworth in Auckland's one
A rugby competition this year and an historic win over
the weekend beating Auckland Grammar am I producer Mark is
not happy about this one for the first time ever.
Well done.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Yeah, it was an amazing day, wasn't it. I Mean
you talk about perseverance and you know, hard work and
probably just for our boys at school with small school
three hundred and eighty five boys, tough times we've been through,
as you know, just to have the belief to come
up against a school like Aukan Gramma with wonderful history.
I went to Orkan Grammar myself, so probably the old
(09:42):
boys won't invite me back anymore. But it was a
phenomenal day for the boys, and to get a victory
against one of the top sides in the country was unbelievable.
What was their.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Reaction to that win? How did the boys take that one?
Speaker 1 (09:55):
I mean, our boys are obviously over the moon, but
I mean tim Okonnor, the principal, came and spoke to us,
you know what. Wonderful and tears and coming in and
seeing us and congratulating us and anyone else too. I
mean they love these moments of sports when the underdog
gets up to David and Goliath situation is and so yeah,
other everyone was pretty good with it.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Well done and your congratulations. All right, we look forward
to that squad. Thanks for joining us this morning, mate,
cheers right, take you and Strawn joining us. Played for Otiger,
played for Auck and played for North Harbor, and Coase
played for the All Blacks as well. And that coaches. Yes,
the Giant Killers deal with well done,
Sport, the Latest from the Land and just great rock.
It's the Country Sport Breakfast with Brian Kelly on Gold Sport,
your home of live commentary.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Well, big congratulations to the Blues. As we saw on
Saturday night, they dominated the Chiefs to take out the
twenty twenty four Super Rugby title at Eden Park, winning
forty one points to ten, Caleb Clark scoring a hat
trick of tries, joining us on the show this morning,
he looked back form all Back and Gold Sport commentator
and played for Auckland as well and straw Morning.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
A morning and good morning b K. With a big
smile on my face. You're finally coming home after a.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Few years, well a few years twenty one mate, that's
how long it took.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Yeah, No, it's been siddly been a long time. But
I think, as we've mentioned over our sort of commentary
on these Monday mornings, you know it's been building nine
years and that for sort of two or three or
four years now. So yeah, I guess all the stars aligned,
didn't they on Saturday night and there was a brilliantpressive performance.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Yeah, almost a perfect game by the Blues, wasn't it.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Yeah, I think so and again, you know, we've sort
of acknowledged how they've played this season under then Kaida,
plus all the other coaches they have in their group.
And you know, they kept it pretty simple, didn't they.
But they executed perfectly and as you say, hardly faulted
through the eighty minutes. And yeah, it was a very
comprehensive final.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
How much do you think the weather played into the game.
I mean, the Chiefs really weren't able to play their
normal sort of running game of rugby, were they.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
No? And I think that was always going to be
the challenge, wasn't it. I Mean there was a contrasting
style of play in the Chiefs if you give them
too much space on a dry day, as you mentioned,
was you know, courties of artimam ckenzie and all their
pieces Stevenson that they have to attack. It was certainly
somewhat nullified, wasn't it? By the weather? And of course
(01:52):
it played into a very simple, direct, hard nosed approach
that the Blues have had all year And it.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Was great for the Blues getting Patrick trupy Loto. They're
ruled out of the season a couple of weeks back,
but he's scrapped up that knee and put in a
player of the game performance. What a performance.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
You know, it's just staring, wasn't it. You know, I
mean the mental toughness I suppose, and Patrick himself just
to get himself appeared for a final. And you know,
most people would have thought, oh, you know, maybe he'll
go for twenty or thirty or forty and you just
give his best. But as you say, I mean his
performance from the first minute it was inspirational. And I
mean not just having him around a team, but his
(02:31):
actual performance with the ball was unbelievable. So yeah, that
paid massive dividends for them, didn't it.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
And having a kire of you only, I mean he
scored a try his final appearance for the Blues as well.
I mean he played a blinder as well.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Yeah, I think you know, when you talk about a
team that's sort of been building over the years, you know,
Patrick and a kid, you know, don't mean there through
the tough times too, haven't they. They've certainly had a
lot of tough times over the years, you know, when
they just have underperformed. And for those two to put
in monumental performances which contributed to the win was great.
(03:07):
Wasn't It just shows you know that you can keep
on persevering, can you. And I guess the chocolates do
come at some point in time.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yeah, absolutely. And the two number tens I mean Harry
Plumber are blinder Damien McKenzie, I mean Plumber having a
cracking game. McKenzie seemed to just struggle. I guess in
the conditions.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
You think again, well, Plumber has also been just a revelation.
I mean he's predominantly been a twelve for Auckland and
the Blues, but making that nice transition back to ten.
And I think again, his style of play suits the
way that they've played all season, and he's got the
forwards going forward with his territorial game. He's wonderful in
the backfield defensively as well, taking all those high kicks,
(03:48):
and of course he was on point with his goal
kicking as well, So some real solidity in that position.
Of course, when you flick it around and look at McKenzie,
you know he plays a little unorthodox, unstructured rugby. Need
righty might have give him the ball nice and early
and they just didn't create the platform the Chiefs. So
his unbelievable ability to open a team up was certainly
(04:09):
restricted somewhat by that sp We'll talk about.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
The ol Black squad in just a moment, but do
you think Plumber maybe a smoky for the Abs this afternoon?
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Well yeah, I mean I'd never thought in a million
years this h had asked me that you should some
month to go. But it really just depends on what
they're looking for. B K. I mean, mckezy you the same. Obviously,
he's a shoeing, but you know, if they want someone
at an international level that can just matter a team
around the field and play pretty accurate football most weeks.
(04:41):
You know, he's not the worst, and as I say,
he's very good detensively and great in the backfield, which
most of the tens and fifteenth play now, So you know,
he certainly has played well enough to be to be
in Emuth.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
So one more before we talk about the all Black squad,
and let's talk about Vern Stern, Vern Carter. What what's
he brought do you think to the Blues this season
to see them break that twenty one year streak.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
I think, pure and simple, the simplicity. You know, he's
a hard nose and was a hard nose footballer himself,
and I think he just wanted to install some real
steel in this team, particularly numbers one to eight. And
you know, once those forwards and obviously the bigger group
of forwards they had brought into that policy, they found
out that that's probably where they should should have been
(05:31):
for many years. I mean, the big powerful ball runners
are good at cleaning rock, physical like the physical battle.
And because he dreaded a real simplistic approach, they just grew,
They blossomed, you know, from one week to the next.
And of course the backs that they had, the selections
they made, complimented that style of football, so you know,
(05:53):
miraculous really but when you strip it, when you strip
it all back, very simplistic approach, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Which is great. Pass been catching up with an Strawn
talking super rugby. Now we're going to talk to all
blacks this afternoon. First squad for Scott robertson. Who can
you see leading the side out? First off, that's the
big question. Who's going to be captain?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Well, I suppose the debate over the last few days
has been Addie Severe or Scott Barrett'd be more inclined
probably to stick with Scott Barrett. You know, he's a
sue and obviously for selection every week. Again the type
of player that we need, you know, to lead from
the front grive much like in the same white locked mold,
I guess, so it wouldn't be a surprise that he
(06:36):
gets selected. Yeah, but maybe you know Ardie Savia his lieutenant,
So yeah, that's probably where they'd sit with that.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
We'll talk about the dark horses now. My pick for
one of the dark horses is going to be in
the front row the hook at Ricky rick Attelly. He's
just had a great season with the Blues, isn't he
He is?
Speaker 1 (06:55):
And I mean I don't like totally agree with you.
I don't think he is a dark horse. I think
he should be there. I mean he's been on point
and what you're going to remember to be care We
talk about picking form players and you know, if you
look at the form hookers and the competition, I mean,
he's right up there with Tokyaha and of course he's
injured at the moment, so you're real surprised if I
(07:16):
can tell you missed out.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Sam Darry uncapped, he hasn't received a camp. I mean,
the big, the tall Blues performer. What do you think
of him?
Speaker 1 (07:25):
No, no, no, you should be having your selectors whistle mate,
because okay, what you're naming all of these another player?
I mean we haven't got big locking stocks, have we.
I mean you don't have Patrick two plot as an
explosive lock. You've got Barrett as well obviously can play
there and there. He's just a roll your sleeves up
and get the job done. At an international level now,
particular when you play South Africa and in England and France,
(07:48):
you need a big, strong, physical lock and as he's
one of those, and he's done it all season.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
And in the back line, what about half back? Any
uncapped players there that you like?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
I'd definitely throwing no hope him. To be honest, I
think he is the future. He's got his multi skilled.
I know he's young, but he's just one of those
players for mine that's just going to get better and
better and particularly and that all that environment. I think
he's one potentially you know who could get in there.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Another one that I liked through the Super Rugby season
out of the Hurricanes has been Reuben Love.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Yeah. An interesting one really because if you look at
all the lieutenants in the ten shit around the country.
You know, again we don't have a lot that have
played at the highest level internationally. And when you look
at our fullbacks as well, of which we're even love
can play both ten and fifteen and that's the same.
I think that's a position for mine, those two positions
ten and fifteen, which are intriguing in terms of selection
(08:49):
because you're not picking players, as I say, with a
wealth of experience, so you're going to be blooding some
relatively new players or in the experienced players at an
international level in those positions. And of course you know
successful teams need the very best in those spots. Yep.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
All right, well we'll look forward to that announcement this
afternoon and personally you and coaching Dilworth in Auckland's one
A rugby competition this year and an historic win over
the weekend beating Auckland Grammar am I producer Mark is
not happy about this one for the first time ever.
Well done.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Yeah, it was an amazing day, wasn't it. I Mean
you talk about perseverance and you know, hard work and
probably just for our boys at school with small school
three hundred and eighty five boys, tough times we've been through,
as you know, just to have the belief to come
up against a school like Aukan Gramma with wonderful history.
I went to Orkan Grammar myself, so probably the old
(09:42):
boys won't invite me back anymore. But it was a
phenomenal day for the boys, and to get a victory
against one of the top sides in the country was unbelievable.
What was their.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Reaction to that win? How did the boys take that one?
Speaker 1 (09:55):
I mean, our boys are obviously over the moon, but
I mean tim Okonnor, the principal, came and spoke to us,
you know what. Wonderful and tears and coming in and
seeing us and congratulating us and anyone else too. I
mean they love these moments of sports when the underdog
gets up to David and Goliath situation is and so yeah,
other everyone was pretty good with it.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Well done and your congratulations. All right, we look forward
to that squad. Thanks for joining us this morning, mate,
cheers right, take you and Strawn joining us. Played for Otiger,
played for Auck and played for North Harbor, and Coase
played for the All Blacks as well. And that coaches. Yes,
the Giant Killers deal with well done,
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