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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to kf
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
Time for Swamp watch.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Swamp is horrible.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
The government doesn't work. Man, make it like a reality
TV show.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
A bad Noos, always a pleasure to be anywhere from Washington,
d C.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hey Joe.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
A town hall too, clearly built on a swamp and
in so many ways.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Still a swamp. I have to watch it. Mawarkee boy said,
drained the swamp. I said, Oh, that's so hell. Keep
happensh You.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Know the thing, well, it was one year ago today
the terror attack on Israel, and just reading through what
happened at that music Supernova festival, the journey of unity
and love there near the border, just rereading the stories
from one year ago today, it's it's just horrific.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
And we have been following what appears to be this
slow trudge towards a wider war throughout the Middle East,
and we wanted to talk more about what it is
that the future holds for that area. Lieutenant General Richard
Newton is joining US a senior National Court a security
contributor to News Nation General this has been a very
(01:15):
dark year obviously for that region. Where are we today
compared to where we were in the afternoon of October
seventh from last.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
Year, Well, good morning, and you're right. It was an
absolutely brutal attack and frankly in the public domain right now,
I'd like our listeners appreciating context. Hamas took a play
the playbook of ISIS and al Qaeda and actually used
such brutal tactics on a battlefield to include sexual violence
on the battlefield and the taking of hostages. And there's
(01:46):
still about one hundred and one hostages still under Hamas control.
I believe there's probably significantly less still alive. But where
we are right now is an Israel that had its
back against the wall. That was a significant failure of Israel,
certainly in their military intelligence and their other intelligence to
the fact that it was a surprise attack on October seventh.
(02:08):
But where we are right now is we've seen the
resolve of Prime Minister n in Yahoo, certainly the capabilities
of Israeli defense forces and frankly, Israeli people have stood
up to this brutal attack. But there's not just one
axis that they are being attacked there's multiple fronts, what
I would call an axis of evil. You've got Hamas
(02:31):
in Gaza pretty much decimated at this point. You've got
heaslots to the north, which has the largest paramilitary terraced
foot soldiers in terms of numbers and capability. To the
north have been lobbing since October eighth, relentlessly, up to
thirteen thousand projectiles of missiles and rockets on artillery since
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October eighth. Then, of course, hoof, he's down in the
South and Yemen. These are all proc of Iran. The
head of the snak is Iran, and so that has
become loud and clear. I think not only certainly Israel
knew that. The United States knew that. I knew that
when I was on active duty, but now the rest
of the world does. And so what you're seeing play
(03:14):
out is that Israel almost is going alone at this point. However,
we've been providing. You are still our military supplies and
capabilities and arms and so forth. But nonetheless, Israel has
fought back. I believe they've fought back somewhat relentlessly and effectively.
And so we're at a point now where Hamas is decimated
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as well, they have systematically taken out their leadership as
well as a lot of their military capabilities are missile capabilities.
And so the next thing is, Okay, how are they
going to counterattack against Iran if they've made two major
acts of war in their missile attack on April thirteenth,
in October.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
First, Yeah, Lieutenant General Richard Newton is who we're talking
to right now, senior national security contributor for News Nation.
The proxies you mentioned, Iran's proxies hamas have been weakened
substantially since a year ago today.
Speaker 6 (04:08):
Does that make it.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
More imminent or put pressure on Israel maybe now to
go into Iran and to attack the nuclear facilities.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
Well premise in Nyahu, and his Minister of Defense has
said that they will attack Iran on their time and
their choosing. But however, I believe where the stress is
the most stressed UH in terms of the midiest right
now is Iran because of they have then they thought
that their proxies, which really serve as their long range
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military capability, they don't have a really particularly strong conventional
capability other than in missiles, and in some degree there
they're specialists inside the Iranian revolution at Guard Corps. But
they've been using these proxies for decades husb lah Hamas
and Husi's and so forth. And now that they seem
that Israel has done to Hamas specifically and now Hesbelah,
(05:04):
I believe it's really put the stress and backed Iran
into a corner. And so Israel right now is, in
my view, in what I would call a driver's seat.
And so it's up to Israel in terms of how
they go back and strike Iran. They did after the
April thirteenth missile attack, if you recall, there's just one
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They went after one area defense system in the Isfahan reason,
which is another nuclear weapons capability. But right now I
think you're going to see a much more culminating a broader,
comprehensive counter strike with impunity, not just over a day
or two, but probably in terms of weeks of time.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
I love your perspective. Thank you for that, Lieutenant General
Richard Newton, Thanks for taking.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Time for us today.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
My pleasure, good morning.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Thanks. This is going to be an issue.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
I know that when Kamala Harris sat down for that
interview with sixty Minutes that airs tonight, one of the
clips that's been released by CBS. Already is her being
asked about Benjamin Netanya, who is not listening to you.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
He's not listening to Joe Biden. He's not listening to you.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
We claim that we're the biggest ally that we've got,
but you keep telling him to calm down, basically, and
to you keep calling for a ceasefire.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
He's not paying attention to.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
No escalation has been the Biden and Kamala Harris response. Trump,
on the other hand, says, now's the time for Israel
to act and take out those nuclear facilities, like let's
kick the dog while it's down right and show us
strength towards the axis of evil here. And you know
the point I was trying to drive home there is
this is the weakest Hesbalah and Hamas have been for
(06:37):
a long time. Now is the time to strike. If
you're going to do that. Yeah, well, there has been
a lot of speculation that the inaction in North Carolina
with cleaning up Helene is in correlation to the fact
that North Carolina elects Republicans, specifically Donald Trump and twenty
(07:01):
took i think twenty seven out of twenty eight counties there.
Georgia is also another state where voting preparation has been
disrupted because of Helene, those two battleground states, and that's
the fight is going to center around this. If he
goes on to lose, it's going to center around Biden's
(07:22):
Administration's a response to the cleanup and all that, and
being able to get people to the ballots, get people
to the polls or less than a month away now,
and if there's already a backlog of voting preparations, that's
going to be a fight.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Well, vote by mail when they don't have mail, I mean,
how do you do that? Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
This is if this is.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
A thing, it's a dangerous thing to allege because on
the other side, there are allegations that former President Trump
said he was going to withhold wildlife sorry, wildfire relief
money from California because it's so blue. That kind of rhetoric,
that kind of talk, that kind of discussion, if it
even crosses a politician's mind, should disqualify them from ever
(08:08):
holding office.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Ever, that's not what we do. That's what killed Chris
Christie in a way. Yeah, going to give you traffic.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Speaking of and I had mentioned earlier that FEMA, you know,
FEMA has the ability to get more money. I mean
they've gone through what was allocated to them, and that
this has been a particularly difficult year.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
We do have more money that can come. It's got
to go through Congress.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Now, Mike Johnson is saying he's not committing to calling
Congress back into session before the election because they're out now,
they're not supposed, they're not scheduled to come back. But
in his letter, in a letter I should say, President
Biden urged Congress to restore funding to the Small Business
Administration's Disaster loan program, which is facing some short falls
(08:56):
even before Hurricane Helene came through. And now that we've
talked about having Milton knocking on the door of Floorida,
it's not going to get a whole lot better. Also
mentioned that there are plenty of interviews coming up. Vice
President Harris has an interview tonight on sixty Minutes. Then
she does Stephen Colbert, then she does Howard Stern, then
she does the View. The last three probably not the
(09:17):
hardest hitting. She also did an interview with Alex what's
her name A Hamilton now Alex Cooper. Alex Cooper from
the Call Her Daddy podcast I've listened to one entire
episode of this thing, so I can't qualify or agree
or not with if it's a sex podcast.
Speaker 6 (09:39):
I did a read. It's the number two podcasts behind
Joe Rogan.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
It's very popular. Regardless of what the topics are, it's
a very popular thing. And I mentioned that I listened
to this whole episode today because I wanted to hear
what the hullabaloo was.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
This was the first question to ask of the Vice president.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
What made you want to do call her daddy today?
Speaker 7 (09:56):
Well, I think you and your listeners have really got
this thing right, which is one of the best ways
to communicate with people is to be real, you know,
and to talk about the things that people.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
Really care about.
Speaker 7 (10:12):
What I love about what you do is that your
voice in your show is really about your listeners. And
I think, especially now, this is a moment in the
country and in life where people really want another scene
and heard and that they're part of a community. I
think that she's been show and so I'm really glad
(10:34):
to be with you.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
That was that was word salary a little bit. I mean,
the idea of being seen and heard, et cetera. The
interview itself wasn't bad in that she didn't do anything wrong.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
I feel like sometimes when she's confronted with journalists, she
gets her she puts her friences up, she puts her
her guard, she's defensive, and she if she feels she
can go on the podcast and be real, that's great
for her.
Speaker 6 (11:01):
That's a great moment.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
And listen.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Election wise, yeah, that's the way you can win an election.
That is to go through and talk to people at
their level however you want to do that. But even
Andrea and Mitchell from MSNBC yesterday said, Kamala Harris has
got to do serious interview and I.
Speaker 8 (11:19):
Think they've got to double down on doing more interviews
and serious interviews because when I'm hearing from Democratic and
Republican business people and a lot of men, and she's
got such a big problem with men. I think there's
an under account of the Trump vote. I think there's
a miss edgn misogenation in all of this black and
white men big problem. But also the business world, they
(11:41):
don't think she is serious, they don't think she's a heavyweight.
And a lot of this is gender. But she's got
to be more specific about her economic.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Fans now she's going, like I said, she did call
her Daddy's She's doing Stephen Colbert, Howard Stern and the
view outside of that sixty minute interview, and then Tim
Walls on the underticket, the undercard, the vice presidential nominee
is doing Jimmy Kimmel. I mean, these are not serious interviews,
(12:10):
and I know that they can ask serious questions, but
that's not what drives those types of interviews, and it's
going to come back to haunt them.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
I think we mentioned earlier the term gray divorce. It
turns out thirty six percent of people getting a divorce
in this country are over the age.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
Of fifty and the different reasons for that.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
One of the things that I pointed out was I
would be very upset if my parents had divorced after
they were fifty.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
And I'm not certain.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
I think part of it would be my naivete about
what a marriage is supposed.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
To be, okay, or what you thought your parents had
thought they had, and that you would feel like it
was a lie if they got a divorce.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
Yeah, and it's one thing if you saw I mean,
kids are probably a lot more in tune to these
things then they realize you know, relationships strained between your parents.
I'm sure that everybody probably has seen some level of
it to some degree, and you know, some people have
nightmare stories about, yeah, the relationship that their parents had.
(13:18):
But I think it would have just been a letdown
for me because I would have thought, why I thought
you guys were and maybe listen again, I speak from
a point of naivete where my parents didn't have that.
They didn't have a lot of friction in their marriage,
they didn't have a lot of strained times. So I'm
lucky for that. And I think that you know, other
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people who did grow up with that strained marriage, or
that their parents got divorced when they were six or
twelve or eighteen, Like, different stages bring with it different
kinds of reactions to that. So I at least acknowledge
that's not that's not my experience, and I can I
can say that for some people it's probably one of,
(14:03):
if not the biggest childhood memory they have is watching
their parents go through and divorce, right, So I don't know,
it would just be I was naive to think I
would have been naive if they had gotten divorced after
the age of fifty.
Speaker 6 (14:21):
So what did people say?
Speaker 2 (14:22):
So there were other things.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Some people said that I was right, but for different
reasons too.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
So Hey, Garry Jen happy ONNDY to you. Hey, it's
Robin Oc.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
I'm a divorcee. I felt it was better to be
divorced than being a toxic relationship because then I'm teaching
my kids has to survive in a toxic relationship and
that's not a healthy way of life.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
Just my opinion.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Thanks guys, let me show bye.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Yeah, I mean that's one of the issues. He's talking
specifically from his own experience. But there has to be
a calculus that you go through when you're going to
end a relationship like that. Not just end the relationship,
but I mean all of the legal matters that come
along with it.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Oh yeah, that's all needs to be taken into consideration,
because that can be a complete mess.
Speaker 9 (15:12):
Gary, if your parents got divorced once the kids were
all up and out of the house and onto their
own lives, would you really be angry or would you
maybe also be sad, disappointed, frustrated, disillusioned if they really
tried to work on it and found that it wasn't
going to make them both happy when they have deserved
(15:32):
to try to find happiness individually. Just my perspective.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah, and again, you have a hard time articulating your emotions.
So that's what I was trying to get to. When
you say it would make me angry, it's like, well,
what do you mean by that? What do you mean
when you say angry? And I think she kind of
nailed it well, she definitely had better words than I did.
Speaker 6 (15:52):
That's what you sad?
Speaker 9 (15:53):
Disappointed?
Speaker 6 (15:54):
Yes, frustrated disillusion.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
Right.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
You need that chart with the faces so you can
better articulate.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
We moved it to Texas with my daughter.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
Can't just be angry or.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Sad or happy two main emotions. Needs to be a
little bit more shades. But it's also she pointed out
something that I hadn't thought of.
Speaker 9 (16:15):
When they have deserved to try to find happiness individually.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Uh no, they're my parents. They're supposed to be together.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Again, I'm not saying that's the right way, but that
would be what my reaction is.
Speaker 6 (16:28):
Right, Right, you're not their whole world.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Sometimes you think that our parents don't have their own lives.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
Yeah, I trust me. I'm on the receiving end of
that now too. My kids look at me. I don't
know what they expect of me or what kind of
they don't. It's not like they ask about my relationship
with their mother.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Right, But what you're not just your relationship, and you're
not just your relationship with them. You're into adult theater,
you have a career. You like to tinker. Yeah, you're
kind of a tinker, like around the house you were painted.
Speaker 10 (17:03):
They got to say, I resound with Gary on that
whole angry about parents coming to you at the age
of fifty and saying they want a divorce. My parents
did that, and I was so mad at them. I
was like, we were miserable as children. You guys stayed
together that whole entire time. You never left him then,
(17:24):
and now you want to leave him.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Hell no.
Speaker 10 (17:27):
It was interesting, really, I was so angry.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Now that again, that wouldn't have been my experience because
I had a good childhood. I mean, it was happy, there.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Were no negatives.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Yeah, But that she talked about it that they grew
up miserable because their parents were miserable.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Right, and so why didn't you just do this and
saved us the misery?
Speaker 6 (17:48):
Interesting?
Speaker 4 (17:49):
But the other thing is you've put in twenty five
thirty years with someone, and you're just gonna like throw
that away. Oh there's a shiny new thing, or I.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Don't feel like on your priority. Speaking to the woman
that was profiled in the story earlier, I just she said,
we had the house, we had the kids, we had
a household. EQUI that's right, equal equal sharing of the
household duties and the child rearing and everything.
Speaker 6 (18:19):
But I didn't feel like I was his number one priority.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Well, priorities change from day to day, time to time,
they look different. You can't be the number one priority
all the time, right telling me like, right now, your
number one priority should be that shirt and what you're
going to do with it when you get rid of it.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Why why do I get rid of that shirt? Just kidding?
You do that to me all the time. See how
it feels feel better, does it?
Speaker 6 (18:53):
I'm sorry, it's a beautiful shirt.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
There's a new thing that's going to ruin our jobs. Great.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
I thought AI was never coming for us. It's totally
coming for us.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
I'm having friends text me telling me who is uh
who should.
Speaker 6 (19:12):
Consider a divorce later in life? This is not.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Okay? Open up there.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
We got to get to the story tomorrow if we
don't get it to it today. And that producer Alex
found about why did people in the past look so
much older?
Speaker 2 (19:32):
That's a great that's a great story.
Speaker 6 (19:36):
It is.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Because you look at people and you make fun of me.
I think it.
Speaker 8 (19:41):
They've got to double down on doing more interviews and
serious interviews because when I'm hearing from democratic.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Why does she start talking, Well, she wants us to
do more serious interviews.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
You always make fun of me, and you go that
guy's that guy's your age or whatever.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
That's not me making fun of you. That's saying, can you.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Believe that guy's your age?
Speaker 6 (20:03):
Because you look.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
I see what you're doing now. You're trying to clean
up your mess and know it because you make fun
You do not look your age.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
You look a good You look more like my age
than your age. If I had to, if I saw
you in the wild, if you saw me on that
corner down here, yeah, I'd say you were my age,
I'd say you're about forty forty three.
Speaker 6 (20:25):
Forty four.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Hm, you emphasized forty four. You could have just stuck
with forty three.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Well, I was slow rolling my forty four to make
it sound like there was some wiggle room there that
maybe I could be forty three.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
No, but you know what I.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Mean, Like, when I see a guy that's that's like
not taking care of himself, who's your age? I'm like,
can you believe that you guys are the same age?
I do the same thing to my husband too. My
husband also takes great care of himself, does not look
his age at all. So it's just it's fascinating to
me the spectrum of of but back it does seem
like when my parents, my grand parents were my grandparents, Yeah,
(21:04):
they looked a lot older than my mom, Like my
grandmother looked a hell of a lot older than my
mom does now at seventy six.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
I listen.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
I don't know if this is also because they've passed,
but I have a specific age for my parents when
I think of them, the image that comes to my head,
it's a specific age. Yes, it doesn't change over the
course of the forty or fifty years that I've known
them and been conscious of that.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
I have a specific image.
Speaker 6 (21:32):
How old were you at that at this time?
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Well, it would have been right about they would have
been right about probably late forties, So that would have
put me.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
That's how I think of my parents too. That's funny
as a teenager. Yes, and that's it, right, that's funny, guys.
This is the end. Oh, we are ushering in the end.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
There's a guy who writes for the Washington Post who
has a Jeffrey Fowler, who has spent a lot of
time in technology, privacy things like that, and he.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Used an experimental.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
AI website called notebook LM. It generates audio based on
information that you upload to it, and in this case,
he uploaded Facebook's privacy policy that just think of that,
the terms and condition, the privacy policy that Facebook has.
(22:36):
He uploaded that into this AI website, outcomes a seven
and a half minute podcast.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
This is not two human beings speaking to each other.
Did you know they actually track your mouse movements, like
every little scroll and hesitation. It's kind of creepy when
you think about it. They say it helps him tell
real users apart from box.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
But still, yeah, it does make you wonder, doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
And that's just one example.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Metta also collects a ton of info on the people
you're connected to, your friends, followers, even people you might
know whoa just the way they're speaking. It's not computer
like the intonation the breath.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Wow, they have breath.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
They have breath. That is terrifying. Wait a minute, are
we AI right now? And that's not all?
Speaker 2 (23:34):
So this guy says, when they.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Start doing humor, that's what that's what I'm coming up
with their own jokes, coming up with their own jokes
or reacting to humor, that'll be the troubling stuff.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
This guy, Jeffrey Fowler, again says he was surprised that
when he uploaded the Facebook privacy policy, what was spit
out on the other end was more critical than he
was expecting. Taking the point of view of a skeptical
Facebook user, is is I didn't tell it to do that.
The AI decides its own focus on each podcast and
(24:09):
each summary that it comes up with, and it said,
it's it's interesting because he knows this policy inside now
for fifteen years, he's been writing about Facebook privacy policies,
social media privacy policies. And he said, what was surprising
was about four minutes into this podcast, it takes a
detour into the meta oversight board. He said, it makes
(24:29):
moderation decisions and it's mentioned in the privacy policy, but
it isn't nearly as important to your privacy as a
lot of other things in the policy, like how Meta
uses your information to train its artificial intelligence. When you
think about it, yeah, and he says, it tries to
make a lot of analogies that may or may not
be appropriate, depending on the gravitas of the source material
that you give it.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
But it is making incredible strides, quickly, exponential strides. Meta
unveiled its most advanced AI video technology as well. It's
called movie gen and it can transform text to video
from a simple prompt, which can create Hollywood style movie clips.
Speaker 6 (25:13):
I think space wars.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
That's a great idea.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Tech companies are racing to create AI models that can
generate video, and they say, of course that this could
spread misinformation online, threatened jobs. You can just not just
have the audio, but have the Hollywood style movie clips
from just a single prompt.
Speaker 6 (25:36):
That it's we're done, We're done, We're done.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
It's just it's over.
Speaker 6 (25:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
It feels like we're picking up a little bit of speed. Now.
Speaker 6 (25:44):
Man, I'm glad I'm on my way out.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
When's not on my way in? You're wiggling between forty
three and forty four.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
Ye, seeing the sunset huh, Yeah, that's what you see
out there.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Well, I'm just saying, I mean it's everyone must feel
this way when you get overwhelmed with advances and technology
and the culture changes and people are into difference. I mean,
probably everyone feels that way, like, oh man, if I
was a kid today, I would that would be a lot,
but probably not.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
Do we have anybody who has made an AI to
kill AI? I feel my head starting to hurt. Maybe
the chip that they put in my head is turning
off now.
Speaker 6 (26:30):
Yeah, they're controlling.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Oh my gosh, creepy when you think it. It's kind
of creepy when you think about it. They don't need us.
Speaker 6 (26:40):
I don't even know if we're real. Is Miss Patricia real?
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to the Gary and Shannon Show.
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
Time for Swamp watch.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Swamp is horrible.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
The government doesn't work. Man, make it like a reality
TV show.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
A bad Noos, always a pleasure to be anywhere from Washington,
d C.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hey Joe.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
A town hall too, clearly built on a swamp and
in so many ways.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Still a swamp. I have to watch it. Mawarkee boy said,
drained the swamp. I said, Oh, that's so hell. Keep
happensh You.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Know the thing, well, it was one year ago today
the terror attack on Israel, and just reading through what
happened at that music Supernova festival, the journey of unity
and love there near the border, just rereading the stories
from one year ago today, it's it's just horrific.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
And we have been following what appears to be this
slow trudge towards a wider war throughout the Middle East,
and we wanted to talk more about what it is
that the future holds for that area. Lieutenant General Richard
Newton is joining US a senior National Court a security
contributor to News Nation General this has been a very
(01:15):
dark year obviously for that region. Where are we today
compared to where we were in the afternoon of October
seventh from last.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
Year, Well, good morning, and you're right. It was an
absolutely brutal attack and frankly in the public domain right now,
I'd like our listeners appreciating context. Hamas took a play
the playbook of ISIS and al Qaeda and actually used
such brutal tactics on a battlefield to include sexual violence
on the battlefield and the taking of hostages. And there's
(01:46):
still about one hundred and one hostages still under Hamas control.
I believe there's probably significantly less still alive. But where
we are right now is an Israel that had its
back against the wall. That was a significant failure of Israel,
certainly in their military intelligence and their other intelligence to
the fact that it was a surprise attack on October seventh.
(02:08):
But where we are right now is we've seen the
resolve of Prime Minister n in Yahoo, certainly the capabilities
of Israeli defense forces and frankly, Israeli people have stood
up to this brutal attack. But there's not just one
axis that they are being attacked there's multiple fronts, what
I would call an axis of evil. You've got Hamas
(02:31):
in Gaza pretty much decimated at this point. You've got
heaslots to the north, which has the largest paramilitary terraced
foot soldiers in terms of numbers and capability. To the
north have been lobbing since October eighth, relentlessly, up to
thirteen thousand projectiles of missiles and rockets on artillery since
(02:53):
October eighth. Then, of course, hoof, he's down in the
South and Yemen. These are all proc of Iran. The
head of the snak is Iran, and so that has
become loud and clear. I think not only certainly Israel
knew that. The United States knew that. I knew that
when I was on active duty, but now the rest
of the world does. And so what you're seeing play
(03:14):
out is that Israel almost is going alone at this point. However,
we've been providing. You are still our military supplies and
capabilities and arms and so forth. But nonetheless, Israel has
fought back. I believe they've fought back somewhat relentlessly and effectively.
And so we're at a point now where Hamas is decimated
(03:36):
as well, they have systematically taken out their leadership as
well as a lot of their military capabilities are missile capabilities.
And so the next thing is, Okay, how are they
going to counterattack against Iran if they've made two major
acts of war in their missile attack on April thirteenth,
in October.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
First, Yeah, Lieutenant General Richard Newton is who we're talking
to right now, senior national security contributor for News Nation.
The proxies you mentioned, Iran's proxies hamas have been weakened
substantially since a year ago today.
Speaker 6 (04:08):
Does that make it.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
More imminent or put pressure on Israel maybe now to
go into Iran and to attack the nuclear facilities.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
Well premise in Nyahu, and his Minister of Defense has
said that they will attack Iran on their time and
their choosing. But however, I believe where the stress is
the most stressed UH in terms of the midiest right
now is Iran because of they have then they thought
that their proxies, which really serve as their long range
(04:43):
military capability, they don't have a really particularly strong conventional
capability other than in missiles, and in some degree there
they're specialists inside the Iranian revolution at Guard Corps. But
they've been using these proxies for decades husb lah Hamas
and Husi's and so forth. And now that they seem
that Israel has done to Hamas specifically and now Hesbelah,
(05:04):
I believe it's really put the stress and backed Iran
into a corner. And so Israel right now is, in
my view, in what I would call a driver's seat.
And so it's up to Israel in terms of how
they go back and strike Iran. They did after the
April thirteenth missile attack, if you recall, there's just one
(05:26):
They went after one area defense system in the Isfahan reason,
which is another nuclear weapons capability. But right now I
think you're going to see a much more culminating a broader,
comprehensive counter strike with impunity, not just over a day
or two, but probably in terms of weeks of time.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
I love your perspective. Thank you for that, Lieutenant General
Richard Newton, Thanks for taking.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Time for us today.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
My pleasure, good morning.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Thanks. This is going to be an issue.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
I know that when Kamala Harris sat down for that
interview with sixty Minutes that airs tonight, one of the
clips that's been released by CBS. Already is her being
asked about Benjamin Netanya, who is not listening to you.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
He's not listening to Joe Biden. He's not listening to you.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
We claim that we're the biggest ally that we've got,
but you keep telling him to calm down, basically, and
to you keep calling for a ceasefire.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
He's not paying attention to.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
No escalation has been the Biden and Kamala Harris response. Trump,
on the other hand, says, now's the time for Israel
to act and take out those nuclear facilities, like let's
kick the dog while it's down right and show us
strength towards the axis of evil here. And you know
the point I was trying to drive home there is
this is the weakest Hesbalah and Hamas have been for
(06:37):
a long time. Now is the time to strike. If
you're going to do that. Yeah, well, there has been
a lot of speculation that the inaction in North Carolina
with cleaning up Helene is in correlation to the fact
that North Carolina elects Republicans, specifically Donald Trump and twenty
(07:01):
took i think twenty seven out of twenty eight counties there.
Georgia is also another state where voting preparation has been
disrupted because of Helene, those two battleground states, and that's
the fight is going to center around this. If he
goes on to lose, it's going to center around Biden's
(07:22):
Administration's a response to the cleanup and all that, and
being able to get people to the ballots, get people
to the polls or less than a month away now,
and if there's already a backlog of voting preparations, that's
going to be a fight.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Well, vote by mail when they don't have mail, I mean,
how do you do that? Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
This is if this is.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
A thing, it's a dangerous thing to allege because on
the other side, there are allegations that former President Trump
said he was going to withhold wildlife sorry, wildfire relief
money from California because it's so blue. That kind of rhetoric,
that kind of talk, that kind of discussion, if it
even crosses a politician's mind, should disqualify them from ever
(08:08):
holding office.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Ever, that's not what we do. That's what killed Chris
Christie in a way. Yeah, going to give you traffic.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Speaking of and I had mentioned earlier that FEMA, you know,
FEMA has the ability to get more money. I mean
they've gone through what was allocated to them, and that
this has been a particularly difficult year.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
We do have more money that can come. It's got
to go through Congress.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Now, Mike Johnson is saying he's not committing to calling
Congress back into session before the election because they're out now,
they're not supposed, they're not scheduled to come back. But
in his letter, in a letter I should say, President
Biden urged Congress to restore funding to the Small Business
Administration's Disaster loan program, which is facing some short falls
(08:56):
even before Hurricane Helene came through. And now that we've
talked about having Milton knocking on the door of Floorida,
it's not going to get a whole lot better. Also
mentioned that there are plenty of interviews coming up. Vice
President Harris has an interview tonight on sixty Minutes. Then
she does Stephen Colbert, then she does Howard Stern, then
she does the View. The last three probably not the
(09:17):
hardest hitting. She also did an interview with Alex what's
her name A Hamilton now Alex Cooper. Alex Cooper from
the Call Her Daddy podcast I've listened to one entire
episode of this thing, so I can't qualify or agree
or not with if it's a sex podcast.
Speaker 6 (09:39):
I did a read. It's the number two podcasts behind
Joe Rogan.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
It's very popular. Regardless of what the topics are, it's
a very popular thing. And I mentioned that I listened
to this whole episode today because I wanted to hear
what the hullabaloo was.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
This was the first question to ask of the Vice president.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
What made you want to do call her daddy today?
Speaker 7 (09:56):
Well, I think you and your listeners have really got
this thing right, which is one of the best ways
to communicate with people is to be real, you know,
and to talk about the things that people.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
Really care about.
Speaker 7 (10:12):
What I love about what you do is that your
voice in your show is really about your listeners. And
I think, especially now, this is a moment in the
country and in life where people really want another scene
and heard and that they're part of a community. I
think that she's been show and so I'm really glad
(10:34):
to be with you.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
That was that was word salary a little bit. I mean,
the idea of being seen and heard, et cetera. The
interview itself wasn't bad in that she didn't do anything wrong.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
I feel like sometimes when she's confronted with journalists, she
gets her she puts her friences up, she puts her
her guard, she's defensive, and she if she feels she
can go on the podcast and be real, that's great
for her.
Speaker 6 (11:01):
That's a great moment.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
And listen.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Election wise, yeah, that's the way you can win an election.
That is to go through and talk to people at
their level however you want to do that. But even
Andrea and Mitchell from MSNBC yesterday said, Kamala Harris has
got to do serious interview and I.
Speaker 8 (11:19):
Think they've got to double down on doing more interviews
and serious interviews because when I'm hearing from Democratic and
Republican business people and a lot of men, and she's
got such a big problem with men. I think there's
an under account of the Trump vote. I think there's
a miss edgn misogenation in all of this black and
white men big problem. But also the business world, they
(11:41):
don't think she is serious, they don't think she's a heavyweight.
And a lot of this is gender. But she's got
to be more specific about her economic.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Fans now she's going, like I said, she did call
her Daddy's She's doing Stephen Colbert, Howard Stern and the
view outside of that sixty minute interview, and then Tim
Walls on the underticket, the undercard, the vice presidential nominee
is doing Jimmy Kimmel. I mean, these are not serious interviews,
(12:10):
and I know that they can ask serious questions, but
that's not what drives those types of interviews, and it's
going to come back to haunt them.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
I think we mentioned earlier the term gray divorce. It
turns out thirty six percent of people getting a divorce
in this country are over the age.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
Of fifty and the different reasons for that.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
One of the things that I pointed out was I
would be very upset if my parents had divorced after
they were fifty.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
And I'm not certain.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
I think part of it would be my naivete about
what a marriage is supposed.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
To be, okay, or what you thought your parents had
thought they had, and that you would feel like it
was a lie if they got a divorce.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
Yeah, and it's one thing if you saw I mean,
kids are probably a lot more in tune to these
things then they realize you know, relationships strained between your parents.
I'm sure that everybody probably has seen some level of
it to some degree, and you know, some people have
nightmare stories about, yeah, the relationship that their parents had.
(13:18):
But I think it would have just been a letdown
for me because I would have thought, why I thought
you guys were and maybe listen again, I speak from
a point of naivete where my parents didn't have that.
They didn't have a lot of friction in their marriage,
they didn't have a lot of strained times. So I'm
lucky for that. And I think that you know, other
(13:41):
people who did grow up with that strained marriage, or
that their parents got divorced when they were six or
twelve or eighteen, Like, different stages bring with it different
kinds of reactions to that. So I at least acknowledge
that's not that's not my experience, and I can I
can say that for some people it's probably one of,
(14:03):
if not the biggest childhood memory they have is watching
their parents go through and divorce, right, So I don't know,
it would just be I was naive to think I
would have been naive if they had gotten divorced after
the age of fifty.
Speaker 6 (14:21):
So what did people say?
Speaker 2 (14:22):
So there were other things.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Some people said that I was right, but for different
reasons too.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
So Hey, Garry Jen happy ONNDY to you. Hey, it's
Robin Oc.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
I'm a divorcee. I felt it was better to be
divorced than being a toxic relationship because then I'm teaching
my kids has to survive in a toxic relationship and
that's not a healthy way of life.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
Just my opinion.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Thanks guys, let me show bye.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Yeah, I mean that's one of the issues. He's talking
specifically from his own experience. But there has to be
a calculus that you go through when you're going to
end a relationship like that. Not just end the relationship,
but I mean all of the legal matters that come
along with it.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Oh yeah, that's all needs to be taken into consideration,
because that can be a complete mess.
Speaker 9 (15:12):
Gary, if your parents got divorced once the kids were
all up and out of the house and onto their
own lives, would you really be angry or would you
maybe also be sad, disappointed, frustrated, disillusioned if they really
tried to work on it and found that it wasn't
going to make them both happy when they have deserved
(15:32):
to try to find happiness individually. Just my perspective.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah, and again, you have a hard time articulating your emotions.
So that's what I was trying to get to. When
you say it would make me angry, it's like, well,
what do you mean by that? What do you mean
when you say angry? And I think she kind of
nailed it well, she definitely had better words than I did.
Speaker 6 (15:52):
That's what you sad?
Speaker 9 (15:53):
Disappointed?
Speaker 6 (15:54):
Yes, frustrated disillusion.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
Right.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
You need that chart with the faces so you can
better articulate.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
We moved it to Texas with my daughter.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
Can't just be angry or.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Sad or happy two main emotions. Needs to be a
little bit more shades. But it's also she pointed out
something that I hadn't thought of.
Speaker 9 (16:15):
When they have deserved to try to find happiness individually.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Uh no, they're my parents. They're supposed to be together.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Again, I'm not saying that's the right way, but that
would be what my reaction is.
Speaker 6 (16:28):
Right, Right, you're not their whole world.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Sometimes you think that our parents don't have their own lives.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
Yeah, I trust me. I'm on the receiving end of
that now too. My kids look at me. I don't
know what they expect of me or what kind of
they don't. It's not like they ask about my relationship
with their mother.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Right, But what you're not just your relationship, and you're
not just your relationship with them. You're into adult theater,
you have a career. You like to tinker. Yeah, you're
kind of a tinker, like around the house you were painted.
Speaker 10 (17:03):
They got to say, I resound with Gary on that
whole angry about parents coming to you at the age
of fifty and saying they want a divorce. My parents
did that, and I was so mad at them. I
was like, we were miserable as children. You guys stayed
together that whole entire time. You never left him then,
(17:24):
and now you want to leave him.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Hell no.
Speaker 10 (17:27):
It was interesting, really, I was so angry.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Now that again, that wouldn't have been my experience because
I had a good childhood. I mean, it was happy, there.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Were no negatives.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Yeah, But that she talked about it that they grew
up miserable because their parents were miserable.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Right, and so why didn't you just do this and
saved us the misery?
Speaker 6 (17:48):
Interesting?
Speaker 4 (17:49):
But the other thing is you've put in twenty five
thirty years with someone, and you're just gonna like throw
that away. Oh there's a shiny new thing, or I.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Don't feel like on your priority. Speaking to the woman
that was profiled in the story earlier, I just she said,
we had the house, we had the kids, we had
a household. EQUI that's right, equal equal sharing of the
household duties and the child rearing and everything.
Speaker 6 (18:19):
But I didn't feel like I was his number one priority.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Well, priorities change from day to day, time to time,
they look different. You can't be the number one priority
all the time, right telling me like, right now, your
number one priority should be that shirt and what you're
going to do with it when you get rid of it.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Why why do I get rid of that shirt? Just kidding?
You do that to me all the time. See how
it feels feel better, does it?
Speaker 6 (18:53):
I'm sorry, it's a beautiful shirt.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
There's a new thing that's going to ruin our jobs. Great.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
I thought AI was never coming for us. It's totally
coming for us.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
I'm having friends text me telling me who is uh
who should.
Speaker 6 (19:12):
Consider a divorce later in life? This is not.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Okay? Open up there.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
We got to get to the story tomorrow if we
don't get it to it today. And that producer Alex
found about why did people in the past look so
much older?
Speaker 2 (19:32):
That's a great that's a great story.
Speaker 6 (19:36):
It is.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Because you look at people and you make fun of me.
I think it.
Speaker 8 (19:41):
They've got to double down on doing more interviews and
serious interviews because when I'm hearing from democratic.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Why does she start talking, Well, she wants us to
do more serious interviews.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
You always make fun of me, and you go that
guy's that guy's your age or whatever.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
That's not me making fun of you. That's saying, can you.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Believe that guy's your age?
Speaker 6 (20:03):
Because you look.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
I see what you're doing now. You're trying to clean
up your mess and know it because you make fun
You do not look your age.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
You look a good You look more like my age
than your age. If I had to, if I saw
you in the wild, if you saw me on that
corner down here, yeah, I'd say you were my age,
I'd say you're about forty forty three.
Speaker 6 (20:25):
Forty four.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Hm, you emphasized forty four. You could have just stuck
with forty three.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Well, I was slow rolling my forty four to make
it sound like there was some wiggle room there that
maybe I could be forty three.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
No, but you know what I.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Mean, Like, when I see a guy that's that's like
not taking care of himself, who's your age? I'm like,
can you believe that you guys are the same age?
I do the same thing to my husband too. My
husband also takes great care of himself, does not look
his age at all. So it's just it's fascinating to
me the spectrum of of but back it does seem
like when my parents, my grand parents were my grandparents, Yeah,
(21:04):
they looked a lot older than my mom, Like my
grandmother looked a hell of a lot older than my
mom does now at seventy six.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
I listen.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
I don't know if this is also because they've passed,
but I have a specific age for my parents when
I think of them, the image that comes to my head,
it's a specific age. Yes, it doesn't change over the
course of the forty or fifty years that I've known
them and been conscious of that.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
I have a specific image.
Speaker 6 (21:32):
How old were you at that at this time?
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Well, it would have been right about they would have
been right about probably late forties, So that would have
put me.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
That's how I think of my parents too. That's funny
as a teenager. Yes, and that's it, right, that's funny, guys.
This is the end. Oh, we are ushering in the end.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
There's a guy who writes for the Washington Post who
has a Jeffrey Fowler, who has spent a lot of
time in technology, privacy things like that, and he.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Used an experimental.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
AI website called notebook LM. It generates audio based on
information that you upload to it, and in this case,
he uploaded Facebook's privacy policy that just think of that,
the terms and condition, the privacy policy that Facebook has.
(22:36):
He uploaded that into this AI website, outcomes a seven
and a half minute podcast.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
This is not two human beings speaking to each other.
Did you know they actually track your mouse movements, like
every little scroll and hesitation. It's kind of creepy when
you think about it. They say it helps him tell
real users apart from box.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
But still, yeah, it does make you wonder, doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
And that's just one example.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Metta also collects a ton of info on the people
you're connected to, your friends, followers, even people you might
know whoa just the way they're speaking. It's not computer
like the intonation the breath.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Wow, they have breath.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
They have breath. That is terrifying. Wait a minute, are
we AI right now? And that's not all?
Speaker 2 (23:34):
So this guy says, when they.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Start doing humor, that's what that's what I'm coming up
with their own jokes, coming up with their own jokes
or reacting to humor, that'll be the troubling stuff.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
This guy, Jeffrey Fowler, again says he was surprised that
when he uploaded the Facebook privacy policy, what was spit
out on the other end was more critical than he
was expecting. Taking the point of view of a skeptical
Facebook user, is is I didn't tell it to do that.
The AI decides its own focus on each podcast and
(24:09):
each summary that it comes up with, and it said,
it's it's interesting because he knows this policy inside now
for fifteen years, he's been writing about Facebook privacy policies,
social media privacy policies. And he said, what was surprising
was about four minutes into this podcast, it takes a
detour into the meta oversight board. He said, it makes
(24:29):
moderation decisions and it's mentioned in the privacy policy, but
it isn't nearly as important to your privacy as a
lot of other things in the policy, like how Meta
uses your information to train its artificial intelligence. When you
think about it, yeah, and he says, it tries to
make a lot of analogies that may or may not
be appropriate, depending on the gravitas of the source material
that you give it.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
But it is making incredible strides, quickly, exponential strides. Meta
unveiled its most advanced AI video technology as well. It's
called movie gen and it can transform text to video
from a simple prompt, which can create Hollywood style movie clips.
Speaker 6 (25:13):
I think space wars.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
That's a great idea.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Tech companies are racing to create AI models that can
generate video, and they say, of course that this could
spread misinformation online, threatened jobs. You can just not just
have the audio, but have the Hollywood style movie clips
from just a single prompt.
Speaker 6 (25:36):
That it's we're done, We're done, We're done.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
It's just it's over.
Speaker 6 (25:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
It feels like we're picking up a little bit of speed. Now.
Speaker 6 (25:44):
Man, I'm glad I'm on my way out.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
When's not on my way in? You're wiggling between forty
three and forty four.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
Ye, seeing the sunset huh, Yeah, that's what you see
out there.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Well, I'm just saying, I mean it's everyone must feel
this way when you get overwhelmed with advances and technology
and the culture changes and people are into difference. I mean,
probably everyone feels that way, like, oh man, if I
was a kid today, I would that would be a lot,
but probably not.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
Do we have anybody who has made an AI to
kill AI? I feel my head starting to hurt. Maybe
the chip that they put in my head is turning
off now.
Speaker 6 (26:30):
Yeah, they're controlling.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Oh my gosh, creepy when you think it. It's kind
of creepy when you think about it. They don't need us.
Speaker 6 (26:40):
I don't even know if we're real. Is Miss Patricia real?
Speaker 2 (26:44):
I've said this over and over again. No, it's kind
of creepy when you think about it. You've been listening
to the Gary and Shannon Show.
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