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October 10, 2024 23 mins
Hurricane Milton: People are exhausted and stranded at Disney. Donald Trump was on with John Kobylt yesterday at 2pm. Trump and John talked about Kamala Harris. We are discussing Kamala's word salad during her appearances on 60 Minutes. CBS should not edit Harris's interview, and someone should request the entire transcript. CBS News says Ta-Nehisi Coates book “The Message” did not meet the networks editorial standards.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
That was a really good interview. I think it was better.
It was surprisingly clear, and it was it was smart. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
I mean Trump was on with John Cobbot yesterday at
two o'clock. If you didn't hear it podcast, it's definitely
worth a listen. He sounded succinct and smart and pulled
up numbers and knew California politics and knew how the
border was affecting us, and knew all of the things
that are important to voters in California if you are

(00:36):
impacted by things like immigration and crime, and how could
you not be.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
Yeah, and you compare that to the other event from
last night, which was Adam Schiff and Steve Garvey, the
two Senate candidates going after it.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
I got to tell you, I didn't have a stomach
for it. I did not watch it. I kind of
stumbled on to it. I forgot that it was on
last night.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
I ended up watching about twenty twenty five minutes of it,
and I was just like, again, just super frustrated. This
is the this is the best we can do either party,
But like these two.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Yeah, exactly, I feel that way, not even watching any
of it. You know, Adam Schiff is just a slimy,
slimy slimy as they come. Steve Garvey is a first baseman,
and you know what, it was a great first baseman.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
And then and that's it. That's all there is. Tell
me more about the baseball stories. I want to hear
the baseball.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Baseball stories are great, But wow, I thought it was
going to be a madhouse at Petco last night and
it did not disappoint.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
It did not disappoint.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
That was the loudest crowd I've ever heard watching a
baseball game.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
Nobody got thrown at, no, no beam balls, Nobody got
plunked like we kind of postulated they might. But Dodger
I don't know if if tempers flare more tonight out
of frustration and now it's a bullpen game for the Dodgers.
They got, you know, yeah, the remnants of their pitching stack.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
That's just an anemic offense in the playoffs. For whatever reason,
I loved, just because of the poetry of it.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
Mookie Betts hits a home run and thinks he doesn't
hit a home run. Yes, because what happens two nights
before he hit a home or he thought he hit
a home run but didn't hit a home run.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yep, it was great, It was really cool.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
Okay, but all of this pales in comparison to what
is about to happen to just about the entire state
of Florida.

Speaker 4 (02:23):
It's currently a Category four hurricane with maximum sustained wins
of one hundred and fifty five miles per hour. That
is just a whisker shy of a category five. And
while there is the hope that it will weaken more
before landfall, there is high confidence that this hurricane is

(02:43):
going to pack a major, major punch.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
That, of course Governoran de Santis from earlier this morning
talk about Hurricane Milton. Now, the last update from the
National Hurricane Center came in just about an hour ago,
and they had altered their course just a tiny bit
and suggested that the eye of the storm would come
closer to Sarasota, Florida than to Tampa, which is not

(03:07):
good news for Sarasota. It's better news for Tampa, obviously,
but that does not mean that anything is that anything
is good, especially along that West Coast National Hurricane Center
Director Michael Brennan.

Speaker 5 (03:22):
But you're going to see large areas with deep water
due to storm surge, flooding again ten to fifteen feet
above ground level in some places, structural damage to buildings,
some buildings being washed away by damaging wave action. Locations
may be uninhabitable for an extended period. You do not
want to be in those locations after the storm. Roads
will be washed out or flooded. Escape routes may be

(03:42):
cut off, and there will be major damage to coastal
infrastructure in those areas.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
People who are there are already exhausted from Helene. Caught
up with a guy named Bill Brotherton. He's seventy years old.
He was parking his car near the Tampa International Airport.
Had to ride to a local high school where there
is a shelter, and he intends to hunker down there.
He had his parrot, Mikey perched atop his shoulder. He's

(04:10):
seventy years old. He said that Helene inundated his home
with four feet of seawater, forcing him to sleep in
his car for nearly two weeks. His quote was, it's
so overwhelming, I can barely speak. I can't think, I
can't spell. I'm having chest pains. I go to sleep
and I don't want to wake up, but I keep
waking up.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
Yeah, and the places that people have gone, some of
them have been able to go to the south, you know,
down towards Miami, et cetera, which isn't going to see
anything outside of normal, though they still have tornado watches
that are posted in the Miami area and the rest
of southern Florida. Some people have gone north, but that
I mean, we've seen the images of I seventy five

(04:49):
completely packed. This guy lives in Saint Pete and actually
left to go to visit family in Mount Dora, which
is near Orlando, which is also in the past off
of the entire hurricane. You're just screwed in Florida, I think.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
So, he says.

Speaker 6 (05:05):
My wife and daughter they decided to leave two days
ago when it started happening, and I left yesterday and
I stayed behind. I gathered all our possessions, our passports,
all our memorabilia from all our travels, our art, org
anything that had any type of monetary value I brought

(05:27):
and I brought over to high Grounds. I brought a
mountain Dora up.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
And if you think about it, there's you know, Orlando
of course, home to Disney World and Universal.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
They're both closing down.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
People are stranded now at Disney World, people who went
to Disney World for a vacation. Melissa Carpenter is one
of those people. She's from Indianapolis. She says, we came
to the realization that we're stuck here vacationing with her son.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
There does that ruin Disney for you if you get
stuck and through her, she.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Says, the first time she heard about any weather concerns
was over the weekend, a day after she landed in Florida.
Then a notification pops up on our Disney app informing
her that the resort was monitoring a quickly progressing storm.
And that's the thing, this thing came out in nowhere,
well for us at least. Remember, we were talking about
storms forming, but they wouldn't hit the mainland last week anyway,
she says. Hours later, she received another notification, this time

(06:22):
from her airline. Her flight home had been canceled. It
was scheduled for yesterday. All the buses and trains were
booked or canceled. The few available flights they could never afford.
She said, I understand it's hurricane season, but we've been
doing this since twenty seventeen and we've never had an
issue in October.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
I mean technically doesn't end until November one, right, a
hurricane season.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
I mean even then, they've had hurricanes after that.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
So does anybody else hear Miami and say Miami is nice?

Speaker 2 (06:57):
So I'll say it twice. No, No, you don't. You
don't relive that Golden Girl's moment. I don't you know you.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
Know the episode the reference? Yes, yeah, but that was
a great episode. We I actually had a funny conversation.
We had some visitors yesterday after the show, and as
I was walking out, I said to one of them
or they asked what I have planned for the rest
of the day, and I said, well, I got to
get my presence figured out for my wife's birthday. And

(07:28):
one of them said, to me, get something she likes,
not something you like.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
That's funny, that was really funny. Well, well that's funny.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
My brother is taking his girlfriend to Austin or whatever
for her birthday, but it's really so he can go
to F one racing. So men do need to be
reminded of that. Yes, Yeah, my favorite part about our visitors.
So we had some people from the LAPD and and
one of the guys was in full uniform and we're
walking out and we're walking past the boss's office and

(07:58):
she's like.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
Hey, shann can I a minute? And he was.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
Right behind me and I was like no, I literally
brought an armed guard so that I don't have to
have a meeting to avoid.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
All right, So the interview blitz is on Kamala Harris
was everywhere yesterday.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
Guys, that sixty minutes interview turns out was heavily edited
the CBS. Not just edited for time. Content was edited.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
We'll talk about that also a little bit of yesterday's
interview that John did with former President Trump.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
It's not even an important fish.

Speaker 7 (08:33):
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Speaker 3 (08:39):
Yesterday, John Cobalt had the opportunity to interview former President Trump.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
It was great and at one point Trump said to John,
because of Trump's people, was like he's got to go.
And John says to Trump, they're telling me you got
to go, and he's like, no, no, I can stay.
Don't worry about it. He goes, this is like therapy
for me. He tells John, we're having a good time.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
One thing that I that I that I heard in
the interview that I thought was important was Trump knows
to localize what he's talking about. Yes, now, he talked
about obviously border, he talked about immigration, he talked about economy,
he talked about California. There's a lot of consternation for
people who are here about what the state used to

(09:20):
be and what it is now. And he connected it
to himself by saying, listen, I own a lot of
property in California, and I mean I haven't literally I
have investment in the state of California. It's not just
somebody from the East Coast or some you know, Republican
Party chair or something denigrating the state. He knows it.

(09:43):
He's been here, He's got stuff here.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
He knew about the Delta smelt Oh. That was the
other part of the interview.

Speaker 8 (09:49):
You know that you have water coming in by millions
and millions of gallons up from the north, and they
send the water out into the Pacific Ocean, and they
don't let it come town.

Speaker 9 (10:00):
Yeah, to save a fish that they can't they to
save a fish they can't even.

Speaker 8 (10:03):
Find anymore, a fish called the smelt.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yes, the delta smelt doesn't.

Speaker 8 (10:08):
Do well, the delta smelt. And to save this little
tiny fish that, by the way, is dying for a
different reason. It's got no water. You know, before they
had water. Now it's got no water, so it's dying anyway.
But to save the delta smelt, which is not an
important fish, that's.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
The best part.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
So there was one moment that kind of struck me
and I thought more about it after and John kind
of and he didn't. John did not even do any
ball washing, which is I enjoyed that. They just were
two guys having a conversation. It could have been at
a barbecue outside. It was very conversational. It was very

(10:47):
human like. But at one point John does tee up
something for Trump and they're talking about Prop forty seven,
and he goes, you know who you know it was
behind that, and it was Kamala Harris. And it's really
been the denigration of California in recent years with all
of the lawlessness. And Trump said, yeah, you've got criminals

(11:07):
going into soores with calculators to get under that nine
hundred and fifty dollars misdemeanor umbrella. He knew about that,
and that was great. But John tease that up and
he goes, you know who's behind that? It was Kamala Harris,
and Trump's like kind of just rolls on over it.
And I thought to myself, well, what the hell is
he going to say? Because what did she actually do here?

(11:29):
And that's the problem with Kamala Harris. What has she
actually done. She's just gone from job to job to job,
but with no real record of accomplishments. And that's where
she gets knocked for being kind of an empty.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
Suit and not being able to discuss the thing, not
either her accomplishments or things exactly.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
No work on the ground, well, no boots on the
ground kind of work.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
I mean, Joe Biden, you can point.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
To fifty years of stuff that he has done, reaching
across the aisle, agreements, he's made, relationships, he's built. She
hasn't built any relationships. It's funny, he hasn't done anything.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
They do talk about her being the tie the tie
breaking vote in the Senate, as if it's some role
that she invented somehow, But that's always been the role
of the vice. Sure, that is why they're talking about
her getting more personal during this media blitz that she
was on in terms of going on the view, Howard
Stern having a beer with Stephen Colbert.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
We've got to coming up next play the highly edited
sixty minutes View. So there was a snippet where she
talks about Israel on Face the Nation where they were
teasing this and it's that old world word salad situation
that she gets into, and then the sixty minutes piece
airs and it's a completely different answer.

Speaker 7 (12:50):
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Speaker 1 (12:54):
Six forty US scientists have won the Nobel Prize in chemistry.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Share it with a brit as well.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
David Baker and John Jumper shared it with Britain Dennis Habasis.
They won the twenty twenty four Nobel Prize in Chemistry
for work on decoding the structure of proteins and creating
new ones. Half the prize was awarded to Baker for
computational protein design. The other half was shared by Hassbys
and Jumper for protein structure prediction. You can get on

(13:23):
the horn to your daughter and she'll explain that to you.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
Maybe she might not waste her time. The Tropic Canda,
Las Vegas is gone. They imploded it. Just what was
that seven hours ago?

Speaker 7 (13:35):
Now?

Speaker 2 (13:36):
I wonder how many bodies are going to be found
make way for the Oakland A's baseball team.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
They I didn't realize how aggressive they gut those places
before they.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
Blow it up. They blow it up like a whale.
But I mean there's nothing left there.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
Took all the glass out, all the windows were gone,
everything on the inside was going.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
It's just the super superstructure.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Whatever you'd get, you can't have glass being blown across
the city.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
It's Vegas. I think they'd be okay, you think so.
I think they sweep up and clean up pretty quickly.
All four division series in the MLB playoffs resumed today.
First pitch is at twelve, at two, at four, and
at six, of course, will be the La San Diego game.
Dodgers lost to the Padres six to five, so they
now'll fall behind two to one in that best of

(14:23):
five series. Freddie Freeman is going to be playing with
a broken something severely sprained ankle, but they need his
bat in, according to Tim Kates, the voice of Dodger Talk,
and then Miguel Rojas, the shortstop is likely out because
of an add doctor strange. He reminded me of Kurt
Gibson a little bit last night without the home run,
but without the home.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Run, but just the hobbling to the plate. Yeah, that's
very true.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
So, and tonight is also a bullpen game for the Dodgers,
throwing whatever they can at the Padres.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
We keep running out of time because we're just we
don't shut up and get to the damn point.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Well, let's play this really quickly, Okay.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
Bill Whitaker asks Kamala Harris about the situation in the
Middle East. This is the portion of the interview that
they aired Sunday to tease the Monday night full interview.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
Listen to this carefully, but it seems that Prime Minister
Netanyah who is not listening.

Speaker 10 (15:22):
Well, Bill, the work that we have done has resulted
in a number of movements in that region by Israel
that were very much prompted by or a result of
many things, including our advocacy for what needs to happen

(15:43):
in the region.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
Now that is very different from what we heard on
the sixty minutes interview.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
This is what the sixty minutes interview after the edits
were done.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
This is what it sounded like. But it seems that
Prime Minister Netanyahu is not listening.

Speaker 10 (16:01):
We're not going to stop pursuing what is necessary for
the United States to be clear about where we stand
on the need for this.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
War to end.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Those are two vastly different responses. The first one is
a sentence that is not a sentence. It is clauses,
it is fragments, it is mumbo jumbo. Her voice is shaking.
She's unsure of what she's saying. She's unsure because her
voice is shaking. It's happened to me before. She's unsure
of the topic at hand.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Like that.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
That is clear as day to me, and that should
be troubling. More troubling is the fact that CBS, which
I hold up as one of the more fair and
balanced networks, edited it to make her sound succinct and
strong and.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
Resolute and has not come out with any sort of
a statement. There have been other news organizations who have
pointed that out was all over social media yesterday, and
every story that I've read as of this morning says
we reached out to CBS for a comment and haven't
heard back. We reached out to the Harris campaign and
haven't heard back.

Speaker 8 (17:10):
This.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
That's why when Donald Trump comes out and says something
like I demand the full transcript or whatever.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
Yeah, he's kind of right.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
I mean, this is what we as the people who
are going to make a decision who's going to run
the country in the next four years, we have a
right to know how she's answering these questions.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
I would love to be edited.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
I would love to live my life edited, right, but no,
you get the full mess of the human and that's
what we need to see to know who we're electing.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Donald Trump is one of those guys. I mean you
heard him on John yesterday.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
He when he's talking casually, I mean he's putting half
sentences together. He does the same thing that she does
in terms of he kind of gets lost in his
train of thought and he won't finish hisself from thought
to thought to thought.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
I don't need CBS to protect me from the truth
and make it seem like this is a stronger person
than it is.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't like I don't like it.
But that's one thing CBS did.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
The other thing is also just dis infuriated we'll talk
about that when we come back.

Speaker 7 (18:08):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
There seems to be a crisis of conscience over at
CBS News, and this is a microcosm potentially of that.
CBS News executives say that a heated morning show interview
with acclaimed author talking about his new book was did
not meet the network's editorial standards. Now, this assessment pacified

(18:35):
some employees who had objected to the anchor's tone during
the segment, but it offends other employees who thought the
interview was appropriately tough.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
Tanishik, how do you say that? Tashik Tanashi coats National
Book Award winner. He released a book last week called
The Message, and he talks about Israel's treatment of Palestinians.
He says it's a moral crime and are used the
many Americans don't or won't face this directly.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
He says, this is some of his writing.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
For as sure as my ancestors were born into a
country where none of them was the equal of any
white man, Israel was revealing itself to be a country
where no Palestinian is ever the equal of any Jewish person.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
Anywhere.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
So one of the anchors on CBS Morning, Tony Dokapill,
honestly don't have to say his name, He said, Okay,
I mean they're all asking their questions. Emmanuel Acho, I
think is on that panel, as is Gail King, and
so is Tony.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
So this Tony's turn to ask a question.

Speaker 9 (19:36):
Tanaja, I want to dive into the Israel Palace. One
section of the books, the largest section of the book.
And I have to say, when I read the book,
I imagine if I took your name out of it,
took away the awards and the acclaim, took the cover
off the book, the publishing house goes away. The content
of that section would not be out of place in
the backpack of an extremist.

Speaker 10 (19:57):
And so then I.

Speaker 9 (19:58):
Found myself wondering, why does Tanahashi Coats, who I've known
for a long time, read, has worked for a long time,
very talented, smart guy, leave out so much? Why leave
out that Israel is surrounded by countries that want to
eliminate it. Why leave out that Israel deals with terror
groups that want to eliminate it? Why not detail anything
of the first and the second intifat of the Cafe bombings,

(20:19):
the bus bombings and the little kids blown to bits,
And is it because you just don't believe that Israel
in any condition has a right to exist.

Speaker 4 (20:30):
Well, I would say the perspective that you just outlined,
there is no shortage of that perspective in American media.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
So and they go on and it's a fair question.
They have a reason.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
It's a fair question. It's a reason to answer. They're
both smart enough guys that they can carry on this conversation.
They're not calling each other names, they're not denigrating their backgrounds,
they're not suggesting they're idiots.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
For believing that people hard conversation, which we don't do
anymore because it always devolves into name calling and things
like that.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
And feelings now, a bunch of people at CBS said
they felt that Tony doca Pill was betrayed bias towards
Tanishi Coats, and some suggested that he had a history
of charged on air comments about the Israeli Palestinian conflict.
I feel like you should have charged I don't care

(21:20):
what side of how would you not have some sort
of charged comments about the conflict. He's even written publicly
about converting to Judaism has Tony doca pill and has
said that publicly the two of his kids, along with
his ex wife, do live in Israel. He's got a
dog in the fight. Now, does that mean that he's
completely biased? He didn't say any of that now, And

(21:41):
I don't know if he needs to disclose that. If
they're close enough, as Tony suggested that they're close enough,
they've had conversations before. He appreciates Tanashi Coats his work.
He's read all a lot of it, or whatever the
idea that CBS would call a meeting because somebody got there.
I don't know, their hair piece all bundled up about

(22:03):
all of this. Their hair piece, they're pearls clutched. CBS
News and Station's president and CEO, Wendy mcmahona about like
a bow or like a two pay, and her top deputy,
Adrian Rourke, enlisted the network's Standards and Practices unit to
conduct a review of the discussion. The News division's Race
and Culture unit was involved as well. Now this is again,

(22:26):
It's not that Tanishi Coats went to CBS management and said,
I never want to do an interview with that guy
again because he's a racist, or he's an ethnicist, or ism,
whatever it is.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
That wasn't it.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
It was that people in the building thought that Tony
was out of line for doing that.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
That's a problem in the building at CBS. It seems
like there's a lot of problems in that building.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
Burlasson Nate Burlasson Kates was on set with Gail King.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
Kate Berlisten's a really nice guy and really good at
what he does, and he was a good wide receiver as.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
Well, unfortunately for the forty nine ers. Okay, coming up next,
what are we doing the Garvey shift debate? Oh? Yeah,
did you not want to do that? No, I do it.
I just it's disappointed.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
I don't want to do it, but we have to
do it. Sometimes we have to eat the vegetables.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
Gary and Shannon will continue. Tan Na Hasi Tana hasse coats.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
You could have done that off the air?

Speaker 3 (23:23):
Why, well, I would Keanu gave this to me so
that I oh, so that you didn't so, I said,
ton of Hosy Cotes.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Okay, got it, excellent, Thank you. That's a just hip
a thing.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
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