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May 12, 2026 25 mins

The Gary & Shannon Show Hour 2 (05.12) – LA’s mayoral race gets weirder, San Francisco accidentally fixes itself, and Californians spiral emotionally after 14 minutes of rain.• Another LA mayoral debate collapses → after Karen Bass and Nithya Raman back out, joining Spencer Pratt who had already declined weeks ago• Gary & Shannon break down Pratt’s surprisingly effective social-media-first campaign strategy
• Bigger question → win or lose, is this the future of modern political campaigning?• Then: San Francisco’s comeback story
• Gary & Shannon highlight how Mayor Daniel Lurie helped reshape the city’s image around safety, policing, and restoring confidence in public spaces
• The takeaway → perception matters almost as much as reality when cities are trying to attract residents and investment• Meanwhile in Los Angeles → cloudy weather sends everyone into emotional crisis mode
• New research claims rain, thunderstorms, and gloomy weather may actually improve mental health by forcing people to slow down and mentally reset
• Gary & Shannon note this theory immediately collapses the second Southern Californians experience moisture for more than 14 minutes• Plus: Netflix gets sued by Texas over claims the platform secretly tracks and manipulates users with addictive viewing patterns
• The irony → streaming services were originally supposed to save us from algorithm-driven social media addiction

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to kf
I A M six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show
on demand on the iHeartRadio app. We are hitting the road.
We are headed to Bravery Brewing in Lancaster. So I
think we've announced our way out of the drum roll
because it's day three.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Really more of an announcement for day two?

Speaker 1 (00:22):
Is it day two?

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Yeah? There you go.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
I think or ors.

Speaker 4 (00:29):
This just did a lot of people to know what happened?
Now an idiot, Oh my god?

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Uh no, maybe some some festive music.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
He got five yards on a nine man front.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
I can't wait for the schedule release. That's Thursday, Thursday,
and I guess the International Games remains of those announcements
will be made tomorrow Australia. YEA nine going to Australia. Yeah,
there's two games that are already set. I believe it's
the Rams and the Niners anyway, one of them in Rio,
one of them in Australia. Those are already set, but

(01:11):
then there's some other ones that are still up for crabs,
I guess.

Speaker 5 (01:15):
Okay, Live from Bravery Brewing in Lancaster. It's Friday, May
twenty second, we will be there nine to twelve pm
in a live weekend podcast recording, as well as Matt
likes to say, it's gonna be news culture chaos.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
That's the new tattoo. That's the tattoo.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Where was Matt ten years ago when we were forced
repeatedly to come up with like one sentence to describe
this show.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
And we were like, Oh, what's your elevator? Pitch on?

Speaker 1 (01:52):
What's your logline? We're like, that's all it was. Matt
would have come up with like nineteen different ideas. Yeah, anyway,
Bravery Brewing, we will be there unveiling the special brew Kfipa.
It is delicious, it is celebrated. It is a cult favorite.

(02:13):
I think at least when people come over, they're like,
do you kind of that kfipa. I'm like, yeah, I
got some from six years ago. Have at it.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
No, don't serve that.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
It's still good. Nobody complains.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
I don't know if Brian the Brewmaster would want you
doing that.

Speaker 6 (02:30):
You're right.

Speaker 7 (02:32):
So we saw some pieces of this yesterday. It's official now,
and I was talking to somebody who was kind of
involved with some of the planning and just what a disappointment. Okay,
so Spencer Pratt, I understand, was never officially going to

(02:52):
be part of this Mayor's candidate forum as they were
going to call it tomorrow night that was going to
air on Fox eleven and was going to be at
the Pat Brown Institute hosted also by the League of
Women Voters, So Spencer Pratt wasn't going to be there.

(03:13):
Karen Bass realized that she didn't need to have another
debate and in fact could potentially cause some problems for
herself if she went up against Spencer Pratt again for
his very down to earth way of explaining what the
problems in the city of la Are. And then without
Karen Bass, she had some scheduling conflict, despite the fact
that she had signed an agreement that she was going

(03:34):
to be there as she had said to be said
she had to be in Sacramento, and then Nithia Rahman
was like, well, what am I doing. I don't want
to I don't want to be the only person up
here talking to two people who have two percent of
the you know, most recent polls.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
She just wants to fight with Bass again, and Bass
realized that she doesn't want to hear she doesn't want
to fight the underweights there. And also she's not going
to agree to another debate with Spencer Pratt because that
would only damage her cause. The more that he gets
he raises questions like why is Los Angeles this way?

(04:12):
And why hasn't there been a change in all the
questions that he raises does her no good? I mean,
like I said, I think that she's just fine. She's
sitting at forty nine percent, that was as of yesterday,
according to the prediction markets.

Speaker 7 (04:24):
And I'm curious, well, yes, I would be curious to
see what an actual poll puts her at, because the
prediction market is the guess of who would be who
would most likely be the next mayor, or if she'd
be relected, be the next mayor, whatever you want to
call it. But he is getting so much publicity, Spencer

(04:47):
Pratt is so much.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
I mean outside of Los Angeles, outside of LA.

Speaker 7 (04:51):
He's getting national publicity as a result of the way
he has spoken about the problems that exist in the
city of LA. There was an old Anthony Joseelnick joke
from the Donald Trump roast that I saw on Twitter
this morning.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
The comedian Anthony.

Speaker 7 (05:08):
Janelzick I just saw him standing up and he says,
if you look, he says something about Trump.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
Again.

Speaker 7 (05:15):
This is from the roast from fourteen years ago. Donald
Trump is such a douchebag. When you look up the
word douchebag in the dictionary, it's a picture of Spencer Pratt.
But if you look closely, it's Spencer Pratt holding up
a picture of Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
That's funny. That was fourteen years ago ago.

Speaker 7 (05:34):
All right, when we come back, Mayor Daniel Lurie out
of San Francisco, a curious case of a guy who
has kind of turned that city around, at least in
certain instances. Why why he's been able to steer this
city back to the point in the right direction.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
You don't need to be Spencer Pratt to do it.
And that's what Daniel Lurry proves. Spencer Pratt does not
go over well with a lot of people in Los Angeles.
He wouldn't go over with a lot of people in
other cities that these problems plague San Francisco, Seattle, Portland.
But guess what, there is a democrat in San Francisco
that has had that city do a one to eighty

(06:15):
without being a fire brand.

Speaker 6 (06:18):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Are you texting my mom again? Yeah? Yeah, okay, that's cool. Well,
she gave me a gift and I thank him for
the gifts. Event I love you guys. Have that. That's
kind of weird. Daniel Luriy is the mayor of San Francisco.
What to know about Daniel Lurry, Well, he came in

(06:47):
when San Francisco was in shambles with a very progressive
mayor of London breed open air drug markets. You didn't
want to go around San Francisco. Was sad. It was
depressing what happened to San Francisco. All the big beautiful
windows around the holidays, around Union Square that would be
dressed up for Christmas had to be boarded up because
it was just the criminal element overtook a city that

(07:09):
is seven square miles, It is seven x seven. It
is a small city and it was run rampant with
people doing drugs wherever they wanted and all that comes
with it. Daniel Lurie comes in as a Democrat. Somebody
speak in your language here, Gary, you advocate for this
who's never been in government. Daniel Lurie was the first

(07:33):
candidate to be elected mayor of San Francisco since nineteen
eleven with no government experience. He got a lot of
heat because he's got money. He's a trust fund kid.
His I think his father married the Levi Strauss Air
type of a situation. He funded a lot of his campaign.

(07:54):
He was one of those candidates who said, on my
salary will be one dollar. But here's the thing. He's
a Democrat who wants safety and law and order. What
I know, usually they are sent out to the pasture,
they're sent out to the barn out back. Well, but

(08:15):
he was elected, and what did he do? What they're
determining in San Francisco to be compassionate, law and order
with a goal to get people off the street. And
ps Number one on that list no open air drug market.
You can't do that anymore. It's against the policy in
San Francisco.

Speaker 7 (08:32):
A new poll from the San Francisco Chronicle suggests that
Daniel Lurie has a seventy four percent approval rating right now.
Seventy four percent. Now, that's amazing. It's pretty much the
same as it's been all all year, I should say.
But on specific issues he scored best on his handling
of the revival of the downtown area. It got the

(08:55):
lowest marks when it comes to critical issues of housing
and homelessness.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
But there's a couple things to know about that.

Speaker 7 (09:01):
Everybody, even if they gave him negative comments or negative
approval ratings on homelessness and housing affordability, the homelessness thing,
they do acknowledge. It's a cleaner city than it was
a year and a half ago. And that is I mean,
we were doing how many stories every week, it seemed

(09:21):
while London Breed was the mayor about new crazy zombie
like people that existed in different parts of the city
of San Francisco.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
I remember going and taking my mom to the eye
doctor or the ear doctor or whatever, same thing.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Those are not the same.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
No, the ear nose throat guy, That's what I was thinking.
And it was an area of the city. I'm not
talking Tenderloin, I'm not talking about Union Square, an area
of a city near like Pacific Heights, which is a
very tony area of San Francisco. And there were the
zombies walking the streets up there like it was wild

(09:58):
to me. I mean, you didn't want I used to
go to the city all the time and just didn't
go for a period of like six years because of
what you're talking about. One of his major policies as
well was to re what was the word he used,
rebuilding the ranks when it came to the SFPD. Hired

(10:20):
hundreds more officers to make the neighborhood safer.

Speaker 7 (10:22):
And that goes to something that I think is very important.
We've talked with LAPD Chief Jim McDonald about this, that
even if crime statistics are improving or they're not increasing
at the rate that some people perceive, it's the perception
of safety that is so important when it comes to
the development of a large city or the revitalization of
a large city. People have to feel comfortable and safe

(10:46):
going into a place and spending money in the restaurants
or the clubs or the stores or whatever it is.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
And when you see zombies on the street and the
fentanyl fold, if you also see the SFPD badge on
the other side of the street, number one, you're going
to better. Number two, that zombie's probably not going to
be there. If you've got more of a police presence
in neighborhoods.

Speaker 7 (11:06):
Now, he's he's in the position right now Daniel Lurie
is with that seventy four percent approval rating and the
perception that San Francisco has turned around and that there
are articles being written about Hey, homelessnesses seemed to be
cleaned up, the open air drug markets seemed to go away.
Here's a picture of the difference two years ago. This

(11:28):
is what Market Street looked like. This is what Market
Street looks like today. There was a funny one of
those AI generated ads. I think it was a Spencer
Pratt ad, but somebody was saying it was basically, well
what would happen to La after Spencer Pratt becomes the mayor.
There's a woman walking down the street and she says,

(11:50):
I don't have to wonder if I step in human
poop or dog poop.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
I see, I'm in the camp where I think they're
both not good. They're either one. But if you need,
I don't want to have to make a choice. That
guy over there, just drop that steaming loaf. You would rather,
I wouldn't. You wouldn't want to step in either one
of them? I don't know.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
That's a real ding dong for me. I don't want
to step in crap, you know, period. I don't care
where it came from.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
It's still crap.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
I mean, I don't want I think I said what
I said.

Speaker 7 (12:31):
You and I spend time in Seattle, as did Mark Ronner,
and we have talked about seasonal effects.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
Look outside, for example, right now it's basically.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
A depression day, and that so many serial killers come
from the Pacific Northwest.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
How or that bridge that I used to work right
next to? Uh see the Aurora Bridge, The Aurora Bridge,
isn't it?

Speaker 2 (12:59):
The bridge the Aurora?

Speaker 3 (13:00):
The one off that's the one with all the jumpers.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
What's the one off East Lake?

Speaker 2 (13:04):
That's the five the ship canal bride, that's one time?

Speaker 1 (13:07):
About that one? A lot of suicides right there, Yeah,
into the ship canal.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
So it's days like today. You're saying that it's days.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Like today, and we've got new science that says it's
actually good for you bad weather. Mark Ronner's skeptical. I
can feel it.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
No, I like bad weather. I lived in Scotland for
a year and it was just like this, And if
I were prone to suicide, I would have done it there.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Did you have a sheep?

Speaker 3 (13:33):
Not that the statute of limitations is over? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (13:36):
You could say I forget it. If you rented one,
that's fine.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
You guys.

Speaker 6 (13:41):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
Former mayor of Arcadia.

Speaker 7 (13:50):
He is now facing charges of acting as an illegal
foreign agent of China. Eileen Wang immediately resigned yesterday after
reaching an agreement to resolve the case. Department of just
That says she acted under the control of the People's
Republic of China to promote propaganda within the United States
for a couple of years. The maximum sentence ten years

(14:10):
in prison. We'll see if if she gets that. Former
President Biden is trying to block the Trump administration efforts
to release audio recordings of interviews he did in twenty
seventeen with a ghost writer who was working with Biden
on his memoirs. A Department of Justice lawyers told of
federal judge they do expect Biden would seek to prevent

(14:31):
any such disclosure. They suggested a deadline of today for
Biden's attorneys to respond. There is a professor Trevor Harley,
a professor of psychology, went to Cambridge University. He grew
up with some issues. Self described obsessive, compulsive, disorder. At

(14:51):
one point he had severe depression. He's been diagnosed with
a major depressive disorder, generalized anxiety disorder, and OCD. He
also seasonal effective disorder, the kind of depression that usually
comes from dark winter seasons depending on where you may live.
And since we've spent time in Seattle, we know how
that can happen.

Speaker 8 (15:12):
Hey, guys, this is Forrest and Tamikla. I lived in
both Seattle and Portland.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
Portland beavers from.

Speaker 8 (15:19):
A lot more than I did in Seattle. But I'd
wake up in the morning, I look outside the window
if it was cloudy, I think to my ash. Another
three pros act day to day. So yeah, that is
definitely something that is real and I can attest to that.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
Bye bye, thank you.

Speaker 7 (15:41):
So this professor Trevor Harley said he studied in of
all places, Mark Ronner, he studied in Scotland.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
All the best people do that, apparently, he said.

Speaker 7 (15:53):
His seasonal effective disorder starts in July, the moment the
wonderful all night glow disappears from the sky where he
lives in eastern Scotland. And considering all of that, he
actually says he has found a psychological positive from bad
weather and actually wrote a book about the whole thing.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
Now.

Speaker 7 (16:14):
As an example, he says, when it rains, the actual
noise that rain makes is equivalent to what would be
pink noise.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Which like white noise, but slightly less hissy. As he said,
pink noise does help us to relax and promote healthy sleep.
A lot of the sleep apps, the sleep sound apps,
meditation apps, all those things. Rain is very common. Rain
waves things like that. I don't use those because I'm

(16:45):
afraid I'm gonna pee the bed.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
Pink noise, pink noise, Yes, it doesn't turn you gay.
Pink noise, I doubt it.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
No, Mark, there's a legit question from a journalist. Please
show some respect.

Speaker 7 (16:59):
Fifteen year old from nineteen eighty eight. Yeah, take that question.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
Back, listeners want to know.

Speaker 7 (17:07):
Other studies found that we feel less pain and stress
when we hear the sound of rain. It can elevate
our immunity because when rain hits the soil, they form
bubbles that carry chemicals from the soil into the air.
Cognition goes up. Study in Japan found that productivity rates
were significantly higher on rainy days.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
Yeah, and then storms. There are changes to the atmosphere
that are prompted by thunderstorms. For example, among them, among
the changes is the production of ions charged particles in
the air in a thunderstorm. Those positive ions go to
the top of the cloud and negative ions accumulate at

(17:50):
the base, and then they're attracted to the ground, which
is positively charged, resulting in the lightning. The negative ions
may killed mold and bacteria and viruses in the air
and remove the matter that helps or hinders or helps

(18:11):
with allergies. I guess I should say, so, get rid
of all that stuff.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
But we know intrinsically that after a storm.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
Things are clear.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
Things.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Yeah, I mean, they smell clear, They all appear clear. Wind.
I hate wind. I do not like standing out in
the wind.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
But apparently it's good for your brain. It increases the
feel good chemicals serotonin, dopamine.

Speaker 7 (18:36):
And then finally snow. He refers to a winter of
twenty eleven. It snowed off and on for eleven days,
and he said, the more heavily the snow fell, the
lighter my heart became. So he studied figuring out, trying
to place why this is. For example, psychotherapists call it reframing,

(18:56):
which is a process of changing the way we look
at things. For example, green grass reflects about twenty five
percent of the light that falls on it, fresh snow
reflects about eighty percent. And light boxes that you use
if you have seasonal effective disorder to fake sunlight, that

(19:16):
says that they emit about ten thousand lumens. But on
a bright winter's day, a snow pack could could admit
twenty thousand, not pretty close to what a summer day
would be.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
So that is.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
Pray for rain.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
So now I look outside, see the clouds. I'm starting
to feel good. Eh, eh.

Speaker 8 (19:45):
If it was cloudy, I think my ash another three
prozac day to day?

Speaker 1 (19:49):
Is that how prozac works?

Speaker 8 (19:50):
Though?

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Isn't it kind of like you take one, you take three?
It doesn't matter. It's kind of the same deal with
the time. I have no idea.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
I do not know.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
I don't think it's like xanax xanax. You know, you
pop one or seven. It's a different kind of vibe
right away, right.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
Yes, I do not know. I think there's a significant
difference between one of those and seven of those though,
don't you.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
Yeah, probably probably Mark kids doctor, don't take more than one,
all right?

Speaker 7 (20:19):
The State of Texas is suing not a social media company,
a major streaming company.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
I can't believe that this guy's going after our little
baby Netflix.

Speaker 5 (20:33):
I can't believe it.

Speaker 6 (20:36):
But you're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from
KFI AM six.

Speaker 7 (20:43):
Forty prising of Trump outside the White House getting ready
to board the helicopter and head out to.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
Andrews.

Speaker 7 (20:55):
I was gonna say edwards, but he's going to Andrews
before he gets on the Air Force one and heads
out to China for his big summit with President Chi
Jin Ping.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
Coming up after Mark's news at the top of the hour.
We'll get you caught up with everything everyone's talking about
when we talk about what's trending, including the mayor of
Arcadia acting as an agent of China. Will have the
latest on that.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
When you watch Netflix. Netflix watches you.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
We already knew this, right, That's why they say things
like we think you'll love this.

Speaker 7 (21:27):
Yes, but do they tell you in your terms and conditions,
which nobody ever reads.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
Nobody ever reads.

Speaker 7 (21:35):
So there is a lawsuit. The Texas Attorney General Ken
Paxton is suing Netflix, accusing the company of spying on children.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
Well, if you're going to PLoP your kid down in
front of the Netflix screen. You're not watching your kid.
Netflix will be.

Speaker 7 (21:52):
Collecting their data without consent and designing its platform to
be addictive. Now, similar to the arguments that we've seen
made regarding social media platforms as well, but among other things,
they were accused of quietly using dark patterns, which sounds
like a bad Lifetime movie.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
Yes, it's dark patterns.

Speaker 7 (22:13):
It's really good to keep users watching, including an auto
play feature that starts a new show when a different
show ends. And if I'm not I don't know if
you can turn that off. I hate it. I know
YouTube does it as well. They have a thing and
auto play. Whatever's next in the queue will come up
and go I hate it. Always turn it off. No,
you don't want that. Even when you're watching a regular

(22:35):
series and it immediately once the credits start rolling at
the end, it gives you the opportunity to hit a
button and start the next episode.

Speaker 6 (22:42):
Right.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
That to me just means it's a kid who's not
paying attention. So I mean, isn't that your job is
the parent to turn it off or whatever you'd think.
I mean, as an adult, you're not sitting there just
letting Netflix play you whatever it feels like, playing you
after it, he says, does get up inund You know.

Speaker 7 (23:01):
Ken Paxton, that Netflix drove up subscriptions by promoting its
platform as an escape from big tech surveillance, saying that
people don't not true.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
It's not how Netflix makes its money by differentiating itself
from the well.

Speaker 7 (23:14):
He says that changed when in twenty twenty two they
introduced the streaming plans that had commercials in it, the
ad support is streaming, one of the co founders promised
he would not do, which was which was a pull
information and then turn around and sell it.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
We know Netflix is watching us, That's nothing new. We've
just let it happen because you know what, we like
recommendations based on the things that we watched the whole
thing for Like, we like recommendations tailor made for us.
How else do we, you know, enjoy getting recommendations from
our friends or what have you. I want to know
what Netflix did to Ken Paxton, Like, is he upset

(23:55):
with what.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
He's running for Senator?

Speaker 1 (23:58):
Okay?

Speaker 7 (23:59):
So well, I mean for the same reason that people
in the Democrats running in California say their big deal
is they're going up against Donald Trump, Ken Paxton. It
wants to be able to say I'm protecting the citizens
of Texas from the big evil Ted Sarandos and what
the you know, the machine monster that is Netflix.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
I think those are not even apples and oranges. It's
like a slice of pizza and a piece of broccoli.
I mean, it's easy to fight against Donald Trump, who
puts broccoli on pizza. You don't want to fight against Netflix.
Everybody loves Netflix. Well, that is the weird part about this.
For as much.

Speaker 7 (24:39):
Turmoil is created by social media companies nobody likes I mean,
I don't know if nobody likes them. They are believed
to be evil at their core because of the damage
that they do cause. Netflix causes chip shadows, There are
bigger hills Netflix on causes, but prints in your couch.

(25:03):
It doesn't have the same impact, perhaps, but they do.
Listen doesn't have.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
The same army ready to fight for you when you
take on Netflix that you would taking on Donald Trump
or social media.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Who doesn't have it. You don't think Netflix I got lawyers.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
No, I'm talking about the army that would sign up
with Ken Pax. Oh, yes, there is none.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
I agree they're gonna have a hard time.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
All right. Coming up next, Everything everybody is talking about everywhere,
and we bring it to you right here on Gary
and Channon.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
This is KFI.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
You've been listening to the Gary and Shannon Show.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
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Ding dong! Join your culture consultants, Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, on an unforgettable journey into the beating heart of CULTURE. Alongside sizzling special guests, they GET INTO the hottest pop-culture moments of the day and the formative cultural experiences that turned them into Culturistas. Produced by the Big Money Players Network and iHeartRadio.

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