December 8, 2025 • 32 mins
Gary & Shannon dive into the workplace meltdown sweeping the country: nearly half of Gen Z wants to quit their jobs, and free cold brew and company retreats aren’t fixing it. They unpack why young workers feel exhausted, stuck, and underpaid—and debate whether chasing a better path is ambition or entitlement.
Then it’s onto California politics, where Shannon begs for a “Rick Caruso–type reboot” as the June 2nd governor’s primary race looms. The gloves come off when they break down the newly surfaced “monster” videos of Rep. Katie Porter and what they reveal about the Dems’ talent pipeline, and California’s growing identity crisis.
From there, they shift to Christmas readiness, luxury homebuilding in the Palisades, and Australia’s bold plan to ban social media for kids under 16.
Finally, Gary & Shannon warn Californians not to forage for mushrooms unless they want a fast-track to liver failure.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. I was reading the story in
the break about how people want their bills paid for Christmas.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Yes, wouldn't that be nice?
Speaker 1 (00:16):
It just takes the fun out of Christmas when you
when you read things like that, doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Oh wait, you'd like that. You said that would be nice?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Well, I would be nice anytime where.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
You're an electric bill or something, I'll take care of
that sure, instead of instead of finding you a gift.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Electric bill is probably one of my least worries, though
least exactly.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
That's why I picked it.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
A couple of things going on today.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Take twelve cents.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
A big seven point six magnitude earthquake hit off the
northern coast of Japan. They said that there was a
tsunami of only about a foot fifteen inches something like
that some of the coastal communities. President Zelenski of Ukraine
met with European leaders in London today to talk about
sensitive issues regarding the US BacT peace talks that have
continued for a while. Jeff Kent elected to the Baseball
(01:04):
Hall of Fame?
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Was he elected to the A hole wing?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I said that this morning too.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Really, he played for the Blue Jays, the Mets, the Indians,
the Giants, the Astros, the Dodgers. His best years probably
were with the Giants. Yeah, five All Star selections. He
hit three hundred and fifty one home runs as a
second baseman, the most ever for a player at second base.
He was a big fella compared to other second basemen
before him. Yeah, but Rams beat the Cardinals yesterday forty
(01:33):
five to seventeen in the churches, will host the Eagles tonight.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
At so far, so.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
So, forty six percent of your gen Z employees are
ready to quit their jobs. Apparently majority of managers, according
to Forbes, are trying everything.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
I okay, we do these studies when we would compare generations, right,
the gen X, the gen Z, the millennials, et cetera.
Their attitudes have changed over the sorry, how their attitudes
are different about things like work and bills and all
that sort of stuff. My question is, is this a
(02:11):
product of an actual delineation between those generations or are
we taking surveys of people that we've never taken surveys
of before.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
I think you hit on some poignant questions there. They say,
you can spend millions on new products or motivational gurus
or company retreats, but that's not going to help. They say,
gen Z is not leaving your company or job hopping
because they're bored or lacking for entertainment. It's not because
(02:43):
they want quiddagche tournaments I say that right, yep.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Or a coffee bar or whatever. They say.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
They're looking for the nearest exit because this is a
generation that is try not to spit out.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Your food exhausted. Oh boy, their eggs exhausted.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
The main reason the lack of growth opportunities. Around one
third of those surveyed felt stalled in their careers thirty
four percent of millennials, thirty two percent of gen Z,
twenty eight percent of gen X. They say that there
is an overwhelming majority of them said that there is
a lack of employer support for further education or training.
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So they're not seeing a path forward, a future. Maybe
a way of increasing their earning power down the line,
and frankly, that would do it for me. And that's
why people that's why I left my job at the
Delhi or people leave their job at McDonald's. You know,
that's what those jobs are for, the ones where there's
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really no pathway unless you're going to be like a
manager or you know, go into the corporate route or whatever.
Like if they're if the if the road ends, if
if you can see the end of the road and
you're earning what you're going to earn position, you probably
leave that job.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
That's the way I was. That's the way I.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Think human nature goes in those years, in those twenties
and thirties years. If you don't see a path to
earning more, why would you stay at a place.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
I also think that there's a mentality that is different
than it would have been before. A lot of people
are probably younger. People are looking for the job to
be the fulfilling, to check a lot more boxes than
just provide a paycheck.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
It's probably not the i'll use it today.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
What do they want?
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Well, I'll use my Grandpa Dickerson as an example.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
I love it when Dickerson and Dixie make their way
into the program.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
So he's he's digging the California Aqueduct by himself. Maybe
not by himself, but that's the way he told the stories.
He wasn't going to work looking for it to be
a fulfilling, you know, mentally stimul thing. It was a
way for him to provide for his family and any
sort of outside mental stimulation. He loved to read, for example,
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Louis Lamore books. That's that kind of stuff he got
outside of work. He got that enjoyment away from the
thing he did to provide for his family. And I
wonder if people nowadays look more, they want their job
to be more holistic. They want their employer to help
take care of them in certain instances. Now employers, I think,
(05:33):
do that to a large degree with the benefits that
they can offer depending on what company it is, how
far you know, do they have a gym on the site?
Are they going to pay your monthly membership? How much
do they cover? Do they contribute to your four oh
one K? All those things they can do. And I
think people have come to expect that much from their
place of work, as opposed to saying I come here,
(05:56):
I work, I go home, I play.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
I mean, but what if there was no path, you know,
to making more money?
Speaker 3 (06:06):
I mean, isn't that I mean?
Speaker 1 (06:08):
I guess if you use Dickerson here, you know he's
gonna make X amount of dollars and he's gonna make
X amount of dollars for the rest of his life.
And he knows that, And that's okay, And there's always
going to be dudes like that or women like that.
But for people who want to keep going up the ladder,
keep making more and more and achieving and achieving, then
why would they stay in that job?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Well, then why did they take the job in the
first place?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Because it's a stepping stone?
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Why did you take the job in Sacramento that wasn't
on air?
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
You know, we all take those stepping stone jobs. We
don't think we're going to stay in them. So why
That's why I asked a question. They say forty six
percent of gen Z plan to quit. How to stop them?
Where I'm saying, why stop them? Yeah, let them continue
on their path, on their journey wherever they want to.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Go them why the next step?
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Exactly?
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Why hold someone back that doesn't want to be there,
wants to have greater earning power?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
That's what Isn't that what life's all about?
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Right?
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Figuring all of that out.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
And that goes back to my original question, which is
did people have the same attitude in nineteen ninety It's
just nobody thought to, you know, delve into the feelings
of a twenty six year old semi professional about what
their next step is going to be.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
I think nineteen ninety was probably the beginning of asking
that age group how they felt about things, you know,
when you think about like the real world generation, right,
like the first real world. And it was like a
bunch of twenty somethings. And I remember there, even though
I was very very young, too young to even remember this.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
But thinking like, well, what did they think?
Speaker 1 (07:42):
And I remember there being a conversation of well, who
gives a crap what's going on with young twenty somethings
and them all living together? Who cares what they think?
They're twenty something, you know? And I think that ever since,
I mean, that may have been the beginning of actually
caring what somebody had to think when they were a
young person.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
And then putting too much of an emphas on, you know,
catering to those feelings, right as opposed to a letting
the feelings adjust to the situation that they're.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Everyone's feelings are out of control at twenty something, None
of those feelings should be paid attention to.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Should just keep ignoring them well into our fifties if
you don't mind, Hey, we know the people who are
running for governor will talk about the governor's races.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
What do you what.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Do you think you ignore more feelings or doctors'.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Real dig dog ignore the doctors. I just don't engage
with them as often.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
As I don't engage with them, just like your feelings.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Maybe Okay, well, it's an excellent point. Touche, Gary Shannon
will continue.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Paramount sky Dance made the announcement this morning they were
launching a hostile bid to buy Warner Brothers Discovery after
they lost out to Netflix. This bidding, war Paramount announced
today that it's going to go straight to the shareholders
of Warner Brothers Discovery with an all cash thirty dollars
per share offer that'd bring it in about one hundred
and I think it's one hundred and eighteen billion dollars
(09:14):
according to Netflix. Netflix announced a deal that would acquire
Warner Brothers studio and streaming assets for cash and stock
at about seventy two billion dollars.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
So it continues to be to be an issue.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
We got Golden Globe nominations came in today, one battle
after another. The Paul Thomas Anderson movie was the one
that led with the most nominations.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
I was surprised. I think did White load.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
I think I saw a headline that White Lotus cleaned
up again, and I was shocked by that.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
I just, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
I found that last season to be just kind of boring.
And I think the whole trope of rich people on
vacation I think has gotten kind of tired.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
But clearly I know nothing.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
It meant something to somebody, well.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Less than six months for a Maine before California's gubernatorial
private ernatorial.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
God, what a great word that is. And so here
we go.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
It is the June second primary election, and I just
I think we're going to have to have someone jump in,
I e.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Rick Caruso.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
That is going to wow people, because so far, boring
is probably a good word for it. Bored of these people.
Xavier Besserah, you've got you know, rinse and repeat. You
got Chad Bianco, which adds a little bit of spice
to the race. But a Republican, this far right winning
in California. I'm not saying he does not have a
(10:52):
chance or doesn't deserve to be part of the conversation,
but I just don't see it happening.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Well, it is interesting if I was looking at the
polls that had come out from say the beginning of August,
and you've got seven six, seven polls, it looks like
from different places Emerson, La Times, Politico, et cetera. And
when you go back to the beginning of August, Katie
Porter has a significant lead at six or seven points
(11:18):
in those the first four of the polls that come up.
And then we saw in September, like you said, those
monster videos that came out that kind of pulled the
curtain back on who Katie Porter is behind closed doors
or when she doesn't think she's necessarily being recorded. And
then we saw those things that prove she doesn't care
if she's being recorded, like when she completely shut down
(11:42):
the interview with that CBS reporter and you know, laughed
off her attitude about who she needs to cater to
when it comes to California. And you see Steve Hilton
and Chad Bianco picking up and leading in the last
two or three polls, depending on which one you're looking at,
you know that I'm sorry what.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
I was gonna say.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
But even with all of that said, still the biggest
winner in any of these polls has been the undecided,
where it's up around thirty percent of people. I mean,
maybe too early for a lot of people to think
about who's going to take over for Gavin Newsom, but
that's a massive number of people that have yet to
be convinced one way or the other.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
We're talking about what should be a job everybody wants
governor of California. California, this massive economy, this beautiful state,
the gem of the country in many people's opinion, and
we're left with these no names or these monsters.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
The fact that.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Katie Porter had the bulk of the money funneled towards
her and has a the testicles Gavin Newsom is misplaced
to call off an interview, or the concern that the
interview was going to go somewhere she wasn't comfortable with.
Those are two really troubling things. That a she would
(13:02):
be monster enough to walk out of an interview and
b that she would be scared of an interview at
this point. Those are two massive red flags, and the
fact that the bulk of the money went to somebody
flying two massive red flags at least should be a
real concern.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
It's it's really you know.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
The article was that, you know, California, a Republican party,
is going through an identity crisis. B An s No,
California is going through an identity crisis. If it can't
get a Democrat better than Katie Porter to give all
its money to, then what the hell is it doing?
Speaker 5 (13:33):
Well?
Speaker 2 (13:34):
I also think it's a broken present.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
I mean, you talk about the high profile nature of
being the governor of the great state of California, that is,
that's one thing, but the actual product that someone would
be taking over, with gas prices as high as they are,
taxes as high as they are, electricity rates, home prices,
home insurance costs, we carry the largest debt in the
(13:57):
nation at about two hundred and seventy billion dollars budget
deficit somewhere between fifteen and seventy billion, depending on how
it goes.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Well, how cool would it be for somebody to come
out and be a cheerleader I e Arnold Schwarzenegger and
say this is a great place. We have fed it
up and then listed all the things you just listed
and said, I want to fix it. I want to
fix it because I love this place. Well, great would
that be?
Speaker 4 (14:20):
And it would be great because you have the ability
and you know Rob Bonta and even before him, Javiar
Bessere as attorney general, they've you know, put their hat
in arrest, their laurels on the fact that they've been
able to sue the Trump administration one hundred and eighty
five whatever it is. How about this, how about as
the attorney to a general for the state of California,
(14:43):
Let's fix the state of California. You're not seceding. You're
not saying you're not part of the union. You're not
saying that you you know, whatever, this job as the
governor of California, your your number one priority should be
the state of California and the people that live within
its borders.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
The La Times do we have time for thirty seconds?
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (15:09):
The La Times did an article listing the candidates, and
there were some names in here, even you and I
who have paid attention, I mean tacit attention, but attention
to this that I had never heard of. Okay, so
you've got Xavier Breserah, Okay, we got him, Chad Bianco,
we got him. Ian Calderone. Now you know the last
(15:29):
name because he's got a couple uncles who have also
been in service to the public and service to themselves.
Former State Senator Ronald Calderon former Assembly Member Tom Calderone
both served time for prison time for crimes related to bribery.
So he now the nephew is running to get in
(15:52):
on the family business, which is using taxpayer money to
funnel it to themselves. Steve Hilton, We've talked about Steve Hilton,
Katie Porter. Of course, here's a new one, John Slavitt.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Ever heard of this name?
Speaker 2 (16:05):
No.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Fifty eight Republican. He's a Silicon Valley tech entrepreneur. He
opposed Prop fifty. He said that passage of Prop. Fifty
prompted him to enter the race. Okay, he was a
Democrat but has registered as a Republican in recent years.
Obviously little name recognition, but I find that interesting in
(16:30):
California that somebody who was a Democrat got fed up
with the party that has catered far too much to
the far left in recent years, so much to the
fact that he registered as a Republican, which in California
means something a little bit different.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Well, it also echoes the other great California Governor, Ronald Reagan,
who said the very similar thing. He didn't leave the party.
The party left him.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Right right, right right. So that's a new name. A
Tom Steyer.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
We know, of course, Eric Swallwell, it's the last time
I want to hear his name for another forty eight
to seventy two hours. Tony Thurmond, Superintendent of Public Instruction
for the state fifty seven Democrat. You got viaa Gosa
and then you've got Betty Ye. But that that that
other guy, that outlier, that's a new name.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
That is a name, So we'll have to keep an
eye on that guy.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Welcome to Monday, Rolling along on December.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
It is the eighth already, it's going to be Christmas
before you know it. How's everybody doing? Is everybody ready
for Christmas? I feel like, you know it was last year.
There was the same kind of time frame I believe,
between Thanksgiving and Christmas where it happened real quick. Thanksgiving
was a little bit later than we're used to, So
it feels like you got to get ready for Christmas
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really quick? Do you feel that way? What is it
that you do to get ready for Christmas? Yes, it's scary.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
There am I here? I don't know?
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Sorry it was Elmer.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Oh wait, was I on the air?
Speaker 5 (18:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Oh were you on the air?
Speaker 5 (18:16):
No?
Speaker 4 (18:17):
I was, I was totally distracted.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Oh okay, are you ready? It's okay? Just like where
am I? What's happening?
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Am I in my padded room? Do you feel like
you're ready for Christmas? Or you're scrambling or you're a guy,
so you don't feel that way? You don't get those feelings.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
I don't have the feelings. I still have to put
Christmas lights up on the front.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Of the house.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
You haven't done that yet?
Speaker 4 (18:43):
No, but there's the tree is up inside, and there's
other stuff that's up. Like my wife has has done
the the internal decor. But I have I guess I
just have a problem with the way that we do
Christmas these days. And it's hard, it's fresh, and I'm
not a good gift giver, and I get I get
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mad at myself for that.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
You're an excellent gift giver.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
H I don't think.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
I think you're very thoughtful. I think you're a great
gift giver. I think I am awful at it. And
it's every year I think this is going to be
the year where I put some serious thought and then
I you know, what I realize is people don't really care.
They don't really care that much, especially the children. Children
don't really cared, don't care.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
If you could ask kids what they had for Christmas
last year and they won't know, or it's still in
a box and we're back the closet, they didn't care.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
Right.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
That's why I always take it out right away and
play with it whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Where I was, I was the kid and I still
am the kid where if you gave me an empty box,
I'd be totally happy, like I would. You've seen you
bubble wrap, you know. I mean, it's we're very simple.
We can find joy in anything. What's going on with
the mush mushroom foragers, We're going to get into that
coming up next.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Stop eating mush rooms.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Mushrooms are having a renaissance in terms of you know,
the mushrooms that I knew that you would take for
recreational purposes was you know the nineties, you know, you
would you know, the shrooms right, and they'd give you
the hallucinet hallucinogenic vibe and you'd see the the I
don't know. I never did them correctly. I never was
into them correctly.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Well, I just think I did.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
I think I did mushrooms twice, and I just I
didn't get it.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
You know, it wasn't my thing. I was like, all right,
what are we doing?
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Made you kind of paranoid, gave you like you saw
tracers maybe.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
For a little while.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
That was at the end of it, and then you
were just kind of hungry and out of it. I
didn't enjoy it. But anyway, there's been a resurgence, and
now mushrooms have the science, the drug science has done
their magic on mushrooms and they're showing up and chocolates
and all sorts of things.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Great, that's what we need.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
But I don't think they're the shrooms of our past.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Well, they're supposed to be less power, right right, Yeah,
theses the opposite of what marijuana has done in terms
of its trending.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
There's a new house.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
There's a new house in the Palisades nine one five
Kagawa Street. Courts, countertops, open floor plan, pool, fire pit,
a fence just tall enough to obscure the view from
ground level. It's about a forty two hundred square foot
four bedroom I believe it's four bedroom, two.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Bath, and it looks pretty nice. There's a problem.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
The problem is that there are no homes four beds,
four and a half bath.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Sorry, what am I thinking? It's the Palsads.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
There are no homes within several blocks of this house,
and it's not technically up for sale. This is just
sort of an opportunity for the builder to show Thomas
James Holmes, to show what they could do for you
in the Palisades.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
This is one of.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
Those strange I mean, it looks weird the fact that
this fully complete, brand new home, so new it's still
got the stickers on the windows, is up and standing
in a neighborhood that is otherwise bereft of lumber. I mean,
there is not a sliver of wood for blocks in
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this neighborhood in the Palisades.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Mayor Karen Bass has described it as an important moment
of hope. People that we know that have lived in
the Palisades or did live in the Palisades. Even the
people who escaped their home escaped from the flames. There's
no community left in the Palisades. Yeah, there's no services left.
(22:51):
If a fire has burned through your neighborhood wherever it is,
your Belinda, what have you, and you know how the
fires work, and they hopscotch their way around the neighborhood.
Even if your home wasn't touched or touched minimally, you
still can't live there, still a biohazard mess still after
all this time.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
It's weird that the governor, the mayor, the county, they've
all talked about rebuilding permits and how they need to
move this thing along, but they're not willing to give
up their stranglehold on the bureaucracy that allows people to
build and rebuild homes without getting their two cents in.
(23:27):
You got to do this, you got to have this requirement,
you got to have this fire proofing, you got to
have Now, some of that stuff would already be built
in because nobody wants to lose a house twice, duh.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
But there's such.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
An outcry when it comes to how you know there's
such a housing shortage in the state of California. But
you got seven thousand lots now in the Palisades alone,
not counting the Eton fire in Altadena, you got seven
thousand lots where you've got the ability to build homes.
I know they're higher end, I get it, that's not
(23:59):
But if you were to get those homes built much
more quickly, then you could you could stop this constant
complaining about about housing shortages.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
And this is just one of those things.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
Yeah, maybe a symbol of hope that there's one house
for you know, standing there among blocks.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
It was very similar to.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
This last summer when I was in Maui and after,
you know, almost two years after their fire, and there
are just a handful of homes that are going up
again in areas and entire neighborhoods that have been wiped out.
And for the same reason, it's hard to move back
in there. It just doesn't have the community, it doesn't
doesn't have the physical infrastructure the way it used to
(24:42):
before the fires. As much as it's a symbol of hope,
it's probably a symbol of frustration too.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
All right, coming up next, foraging for mushrooms sounds so oh,
I don't know. Grounding doesn't it getting in touch with
the universe, feeling the roots and the soil, and you know,
taking part in the wild mushrooms.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Well, it's killing people.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
So the state is discouraging you from reading.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
A blog or whatever it is you read.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
On how to get back to nature and get in
tune with yourself. And please don't forage for wild mushrooms.
You're an ass and you may kill yourself doing so.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
That's I feel like that's the whole sub that.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Was the whole thing that was That was great.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
We'll talk about which mushrooms to look for when you're
out there foraging and grounding. Gary, you're doing what I
have it. You're not even in the same zip code
that I am right now.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
So you're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from
KFI Am six forty.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
On Monday, December Areary, Welcome back. I'm headed to the
Bay Area this weekend.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Wondering if you have a good Let's stop in the
passer Robus area.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Thanks, Yes, Jeffrey's Barbeque or anything in Tin City. Jeffrey's
Barbecues kind of downtown Passo.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
What about the wineries, all of them or any of
the wineries?
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Yeah, they usually have great lunches. The Reebully family has
one right off of Highway forty six that's also good
for a good lunch stop spot something like that.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
I'd mentioned a handful of my favorite wineries in Passo,
but I never remember. I just know I have a
great time at all of them.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
You can never.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Hey, later, we're gonna have to get into this story
about the school issued iPads that causing chaos with their kids.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
I know that you had said that we're going to
talk about it today.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
It's just say that Australia has officially banned kids under
the age of sixteen from getting social media accounts.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
I while you were gone, I meant to text you this.
I was talking a little bit about football. Didn't do
Gas Fantasy for play, but was talking a.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Little bit about football.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
And I saw that our boss was out in the
hallway when I was touching on the NFL may have
invited him in and then verbally dismantled the Kansas City
Chiefs before what and the Chiefs fan base as well
himself included before what happened last night. So A, I'm surprised,
(27:19):
I'm here. B I'm glad I'm not there. And see
if I'm not here tomorrow, you'll know why.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Why that's fine.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Between mid November early December, the California Poison Control System
reported twenty one cases of emma toxin poisoning linked to
wild foraged mushrooms. Listen, I am not a fan of mushrooms,
wild or tame, and the idea that you would go
foraging for them out in the hills of Monterey County
(27:50):
or San Francisco Bay Area somewhere are they?
Speaker 2 (27:54):
You have eaten mushrooms more than I have.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
I'm assuming would you say that they It matters that
much on a culinary level for you to have wild
foraged mushrooms as opposed to a mushroom that someone else got.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
I would never be moved to go forage for my
own anything, let alone mushrooms.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
You have a week will to live.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Perhaps, yeah, I mean them. The thing with the wild
mushrooms is it sounds.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
It sounds very cool, It sounds very woo woo, it
sounds very I am of the earth. I am foraging
farm to table mushrooms are great, and pastas or anything.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Really, what have you?
Speaker 1 (28:40):
If you love mushrooms, but the wild mushrooms could result
in complete liver failure severe liver damage. So just knowing
that alone takes away any romance. So foraging in the
field for mushrooms and then bringing them and putting incorporating
them into my meals for my family.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
I don't quite yes.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
And they come with names like the current culprit, by
the way, and the outbreak of these mushroom poisonings is
called death cap.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
Yeah, and they're mistaken.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
They look the same, they taste the same, they smell
the same, and they look the same as the mushroom said,
don't kill you.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Yeah, now you mentioned the liver failure.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
Usually the symptoms of death cap mushroom poisoning come within
six to twenty four hours of ingestion. That includes the
good old fashioned salad of diarrhea, nausea, vomiting, abdominal pain,
and dehydration. Now, at that point usually people feel like
they have recovered. They go through a quick bout of
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all of that, and then they feel like they've recovered.
That's when you develop the severe complications, most notably the
acute liver failure, within forty eight to ninety six hours.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
So this is almost like your sickness where you thought
you were over it and then it got worse.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Yeah, totally. I feel like I.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Did you have diarrhea?
Speaker 2 (30:03):
I did not.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Did you have nausea?
Speaker 5 (30:06):
I did not.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Have you had vomiting?
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Nope?
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Have you had anything other than the tickle in your throat?
Some some pain and some chest.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
I didn't even have the chest thing. I don't have
a lot of chest.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
What is the thing you're suffering from?
Speaker 2 (30:20):
It was? I didn't. It was just the throat stuff.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
The sore throat. Does it hurt really bad when you
talked it?
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Did?
Speaker 3 (30:27):
It did?
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Thursday night? Thursday night and Friday morning? It was awful?
Speaker 3 (30:31):
And then that's it? Good for you?
Speaker 2 (30:33):
And then it just kind of it just very slowly
alleviated it.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Yeah, you're fine, You're out of the woods.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Thanks. I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
You know, it'll make you feel good. Is going for
a good long run today?
Speaker 2 (30:43):
You know, I don't go to the doctor.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
You you you don't give me great dig I did
go for a run on Saturday night, which was not
the greatest idea because it was cool outside. It wasn't
cold by any means, but uh, that that was probably
not the smartest one.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Man.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
I'm watching Josh Allen on those on those run yesterday
in the snow, and I'm like, how bad does that hurt?
Running when it's that cold and you're that tired and
the snow.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Speaking of which, I looked up what the temperature is
in Philadelphia today. I think at about kickoff to so
eight o'clock tonight Philadelphia time, it would probably be about
twenty degrees.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
My my husband was watching some of the games with
me yesterday and he's thinking about my schedule, you know,
for the Chargers, and he's like, you know, you might
get away with one in Kansas City. We go to
Kansas City on Friday. You might get away with one.
It might be okay in Kansas City, but you're not
going to escape it.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
In Denver.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
He's gonna He's like, you're gonna be in Denver in January.
You will not escape the cold. And he just smiled
as he was saying.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
It, because he's going to be at home.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
I get it from both of y'all, just delight in
the fact that I could come home with frost bites.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Well, you won't get frostbite, no, will you.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
I'll go in the tunnel.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Before I got to cut off Toes, I don't want
your wife asking me questions when I'm serving or painted mushrooms.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
You've been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
You can always hear us live on KFI AM six
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This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. I was reading the story in
the break about how people want their bills paid for Christmas.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Yes, wouldn't that be nice?
Speaker 1 (00:16):
It just takes the fun out of Christmas when you
when you read things like that, doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Oh wait, you'd like that. You said that would be nice?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Well, I would be nice anytime where.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
You're an electric bill or something, I'll take care of
that sure, instead of instead of finding you a gift.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Electric bill is probably one of my least worries, though
least exactly.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
That's why I picked it.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
A couple of things going on today.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Take twelve cents.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
A big seven point six magnitude earthquake hit off the
northern coast of Japan. They said that there was a
tsunami of only about a foot fifteen inches something like
that some of the coastal communities. President Zelenski of Ukraine
met with European leaders in London today to talk about
sensitive issues regarding the US BacT peace talks that have
continued for a while. Jeff Kent elected to the Baseball
(01:04):
Hall of Fame?
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Was he elected to the A hole wing?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I said that this morning too.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Really, he played for the Blue Jays, the Mets, the Indians,
the Giants, the Astros, the Dodgers. His best years probably
were with the Giants. Yeah, five All Star selections. He
hit three hundred and fifty one home runs as a
second baseman, the most ever for a player at second base.
He was a big fella compared to other second basemen
before him. Yeah, but Rams beat the Cardinals yesterday forty
(01:33):
five to seventeen in the churches, will host the Eagles tonight.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
At so far, so.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
So, forty six percent of your gen Z employees are
ready to quit their jobs. Apparently majority of managers, according
to Forbes, are trying everything.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
I okay, we do these studies when we would compare generations, right,
the gen X, the gen Z, the millennials, et cetera.
Their attitudes have changed over the sorry, how their attitudes
are different about things like work and bills and all
that sort of stuff. My question is, is this a
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product of an actual delineation between those generations or are
we taking surveys of people that we've never taken surveys
of before.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
I think you hit on some poignant questions there. They say,
you can spend millions on new products or motivational gurus
or company retreats, but that's not going to help. They say,
gen Z is not leaving your company or job hopping
because they're bored or lacking for entertainment. It's not because
(02:43):
they want quiddagche tournaments I say that right, yep.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Or a coffee bar or whatever. They say.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
They're looking for the nearest exit because this is a
generation that is try not to spit out.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Your food exhausted. Oh boy, their eggs exhausted.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
The main reason the lack of growth opportunities. Around one
third of those surveyed felt stalled in their careers thirty
four percent of millennials, thirty two percent of gen Z,
twenty eight percent of gen X. They say that there
is an overwhelming majority of them said that there is
a lack of employer support for further education or training.
(03:26):
So they're not seeing a path forward, a future. Maybe
a way of increasing their earning power down the line,
and frankly, that would do it for me. And that's
why people that's why I left my job at the
Delhi or people leave their job at McDonald's. You know,
that's what those jobs are for, the ones where there's
(03:47):
really no pathway unless you're going to be like a
manager or you know, go into the corporate route or whatever.
Like if they're if the if the road ends, if
if you can see the end of the road and
you're earning what you're going to earn position, you probably
leave that job.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
That's the way I was. That's the way I.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Think human nature goes in those years, in those twenties
and thirties years. If you don't see a path to
earning more, why would you stay at a place.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
I also think that there's a mentality that is different
than it would have been before. A lot of people
are probably younger. People are looking for the job to
be the fulfilling, to check a lot more boxes than
just provide a paycheck.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
It's probably not the i'll use it today.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
What do they want?
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Well, I'll use my Grandpa Dickerson as an example.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
I love it when Dickerson and Dixie make their way
into the program.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
So he's he's digging the California Aqueduct by himself. Maybe
not by himself, but that's the way he told the stories.
He wasn't going to work looking for it to be
a fulfilling, you know, mentally stimul thing. It was a
way for him to provide for his family and any
sort of outside mental stimulation. He loved to read, for example,
(05:09):
Louis Lamore books. That's that kind of stuff he got
outside of work. He got that enjoyment away from the
thing he did to provide for his family. And I
wonder if people nowadays look more, they want their job
to be more holistic. They want their employer to help
take care of them in certain instances. Now employers, I think,
(05:33):
do that to a large degree with the benefits that
they can offer depending on what company it is, how
far you know, do they have a gym on the site?
Are they going to pay your monthly membership? How much
do they cover? Do they contribute to your four oh
one K? All those things they can do. And I
think people have come to expect that much from their
place of work, as opposed to saying I come here,
(05:56):
I work, I go home, I play.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
I mean, but what if there was no path, you know,
to making more money?
Speaker 3 (06:06):
I mean, isn't that I mean?
Speaker 1 (06:08):
I guess if you use Dickerson here, you know he's
gonna make X amount of dollars and he's gonna make
X amount of dollars for the rest of his life.
And he knows that, And that's okay, And there's always
going to be dudes like that or women like that.
But for people who want to keep going up the ladder,
keep making more and more and achieving and achieving, then
why would they stay in that job?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Well, then why did they take the job in the
first place?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Because it's a stepping stone?
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Why did you take the job in Sacramento that wasn't
on air?
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
You know, we all take those stepping stone jobs. We
don't think we're going to stay in them. So why
That's why I asked a question. They say forty six
percent of gen Z plan to quit. How to stop them?
Where I'm saying, why stop them? Yeah, let them continue
on their path, on their journey wherever they want to.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Go them why the next step?
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Exactly?
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Why hold someone back that doesn't want to be there,
wants to have greater earning power?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
That's what Isn't that what life's all about?
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Right?
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Figuring all of that out.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
And that goes back to my original question, which is
did people have the same attitude in nineteen ninety It's
just nobody thought to, you know, delve into the feelings
of a twenty six year old semi professional about what
their next step is going to be.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
I think nineteen ninety was probably the beginning of asking
that age group how they felt about things, you know,
when you think about like the real world generation, right,
like the first real world. And it was like a
bunch of twenty somethings. And I remember there, even though
I was very very young, too young to even remember this.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
But thinking like, well, what did they think?
Speaker 1 (07:42):
And I remember there being a conversation of well, who
gives a crap what's going on with young twenty somethings
and them all living together? Who cares what they think?
They're twenty something, you know? And I think that ever since,
I mean, that may have been the beginning of actually
caring what somebody had to think when they were a
young person.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
And then putting too much of an emphas on, you know,
catering to those feelings, right as opposed to a letting
the feelings adjust to the situation that they're.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Everyone's feelings are out of control at twenty something, None
of those feelings should be paid attention to.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Should just keep ignoring them well into our fifties if
you don't mind, Hey, we know the people who are
running for governor will talk about the governor's races.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
What do you what.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Do you think you ignore more feelings or doctors'.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Real dig dog ignore the doctors. I just don't engage
with them as often.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
As I don't engage with them, just like your feelings.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Maybe Okay, well, it's an excellent point. Touche, Gary Shannon
will continue.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Paramount sky Dance made the announcement this morning they were
launching a hostile bid to buy Warner Brothers Discovery after
they lost out to Netflix. This bidding, war Paramount announced
today that it's going to go straight to the shareholders
of Warner Brothers Discovery with an all cash thirty dollars
per share offer that'd bring it in about one hundred
and I think it's one hundred and eighteen billion dollars
(09:14):
according to Netflix. Netflix announced a deal that would acquire
Warner Brothers studio and streaming assets for cash and stock
at about seventy two billion dollars.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
So it continues to be to be an issue.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
We got Golden Globe nominations came in today, one battle
after another. The Paul Thomas Anderson movie was the one
that led with the most nominations.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
I was surprised. I think did White load.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
I think I saw a headline that White Lotus cleaned
up again, and I was shocked by that.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
I just, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
I found that last season to be just kind of boring.
And I think the whole trope of rich people on
vacation I think has gotten kind of tired.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
But clearly I know nothing.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
It meant something to somebody, well.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Less than six months for a Maine before California's gubernatorial
private ernatorial.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
God, what a great word that is. And so here
we go.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
It is the June second primary election, and I just
I think we're going to have to have someone jump in,
I e.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Rick Caruso.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
That is going to wow people, because so far, boring
is probably a good word for it. Bored of these people.
Xavier Besserah, you've got you know, rinse and repeat. You
got Chad Bianco, which adds a little bit of spice
to the race. But a Republican, this far right winning
in California. I'm not saying he does not have a
(10:52):
chance or doesn't deserve to be part of the conversation,
but I just don't see it happening.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Well, it is interesting if I was looking at the
polls that had come out from say the beginning of August,
and you've got seven six, seven polls, it looks like
from different places Emerson, La Times, Politico, et cetera. And
when you go back to the beginning of August, Katie
Porter has a significant lead at six or seven points
(11:18):
in those the first four of the polls that come up.
And then we saw in September, like you said, those
monster videos that came out that kind of pulled the
curtain back on who Katie Porter is behind closed doors
or when she doesn't think she's necessarily being recorded. And
then we saw those things that prove she doesn't care
if she's being recorded, like when she completely shut down
(11:42):
the interview with that CBS reporter and you know, laughed
off her attitude about who she needs to cater to
when it comes to California. And you see Steve Hilton
and Chad Bianco picking up and leading in the last
two or three polls, depending on which one you're looking at,
you know that I'm sorry what.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
I was gonna say.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
But even with all of that said, still the biggest
winner in any of these polls has been the undecided,
where it's up around thirty percent of people. I mean,
maybe too early for a lot of people to think
about who's going to take over for Gavin Newsom, but
that's a massive number of people that have yet to
be convinced one way or the other.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
We're talking about what should be a job everybody wants
governor of California. California, this massive economy, this beautiful state,
the gem of the country in many people's opinion, and
we're left with these no names or these monsters.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
The fact that.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Katie Porter had the bulk of the money funneled towards
her and has a the testicles Gavin Newsom is misplaced
to call off an interview, or the concern that the
interview was going to go somewhere she wasn't comfortable with.
Those are two really troubling things. That a she would
(13:02):
be monster enough to walk out of an interview and
b that she would be scared of an interview at
this point. Those are two massive red flags, and the
fact that the bulk of the money went to somebody
flying two massive red flags at least should be a
real concern.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
It's it's really you know.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
The article was that, you know, California, a Republican party,
is going through an identity crisis. B An s No,
California is going through an identity crisis. If it can't
get a Democrat better than Katie Porter to give all
its money to, then what the hell is it doing?
Speaker 5 (13:33):
Well?
Speaker 2 (13:34):
I also think it's a broken present.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
I mean, you talk about the high profile nature of
being the governor of the great state of California, that is,
that's one thing, but the actual product that someone would
be taking over, with gas prices as high as they are,
taxes as high as they are, electricity rates, home prices,
home insurance costs, we carry the largest debt in the
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nation at about two hundred and seventy billion dollars budget
deficit somewhere between fifteen and seventy billion, depending on how
it goes.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Well, how cool would it be for somebody to come
out and be a cheerleader I e Arnold Schwarzenegger and
say this is a great place. We have fed it
up and then listed all the things you just listed
and said, I want to fix it. I want to
fix it because I love this place. Well, great would
that be?
Speaker 4 (14:20):
And it would be great because you have the ability
and you know Rob Bonta and even before him, Javiar
Bessere as attorney general, they've you know, put their hat
in arrest, their laurels on the fact that they've been
able to sue the Trump administration one hundred and eighty
five whatever it is. How about this, how about as
the attorney to a general for the state of California,
(14:43):
Let's fix the state of California. You're not seceding. You're
not saying you're not part of the union. You're not
saying that you you know, whatever, this job as the
governor of California, your your number one priority should be
the state of California and the people that live within
its borders.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
The La Times do we have time for thirty seconds?
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (15:09):
The La Times did an article listing the candidates, and
there were some names in here, even you and I
who have paid attention, I mean tacit attention, but attention
to this that I had never heard of. Okay, so
you've got Xavier Breserah, Okay, we got him, Chad Bianco,
we got him. Ian Calderone. Now you know the last
(15:29):
name because he's got a couple uncles who have also
been in service to the public and service to themselves.
Former State Senator Ronald Calderon former Assembly Member Tom Calderone
both served time for prison time for crimes related to bribery.
So he now the nephew is running to get in
(15:52):
on the family business, which is using taxpayer money to
funnel it to themselves. Steve Hilton, We've talked about Steve Hilton,
Katie Porter. Of course, here's a new one, John Slavitt.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Ever heard of this name?
Speaker 2 (16:05):
No.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Fifty eight Republican. He's a Silicon Valley tech entrepreneur. He
opposed Prop fifty. He said that passage of Prop. Fifty
prompted him to enter the race. Okay, he was a
Democrat but has registered as a Republican in recent years.
Obviously little name recognition, but I find that interesting in
(16:30):
California that somebody who was a Democrat got fed up
with the party that has catered far too much to
the far left in recent years, so much to the
fact that he registered as a Republican, which in California
means something a little bit different.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Well, it also echoes the other great California Governor, Ronald Reagan,
who said the very similar thing. He didn't leave the party.
The party left him.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Right right, right right. So that's a new name. A
Tom Steyer.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
We know, of course, Eric Swallwell, it's the last time
I want to hear his name for another forty eight
to seventy two hours. Tony Thurmond, Superintendent of Public Instruction
for the state fifty seven Democrat. You got viaa Gosa
and then you've got Betty Ye. But that that that
other guy, that outlier, that's a new name.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
That is a name, So we'll have to keep an
eye on that guy.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Welcome to Monday, Rolling along on December.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
It is the eighth already, it's going to be Christmas
before you know it. How's everybody doing? Is everybody ready
for Christmas? I feel like, you know it was last year.
There was the same kind of time frame I believe,
between Thanksgiving and Christmas where it happened real quick. Thanksgiving
was a little bit later than we're used to, So
it feels like you got to get ready for Christmas
(17:54):
really quick? Do you feel that way? What is it
that you do to get ready for Christmas? Yes, it's scary.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
There am I here? I don't know?
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Sorry it was Elmer.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Oh wait, was I on the air?
Speaker 5 (18:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Oh were you on the air?
Speaker 5 (18:16):
No?
Speaker 4 (18:17):
I was, I was totally distracted.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Oh okay, are you ready? It's okay? Just like where
am I? What's happening?
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Am I in my padded room? Do you feel like
you're ready for Christmas? Or you're scrambling or you're a guy,
so you don't feel that way? You don't get those feelings.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
I don't have the feelings. I still have to put
Christmas lights up on the front.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Of the house.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
You haven't done that yet?
Speaker 4 (18:43):
No, but there's the tree is up inside, and there's
other stuff that's up. Like my wife has has done
the the internal decor. But I have I guess I
just have a problem with the way that we do
Christmas these days. And it's hard, it's fresh, and I'm
not a good gift giver, and I get I get
(19:03):
mad at myself for that.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
You're an excellent gift giver.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
H I don't think.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
I think you're very thoughtful. I think you're a great
gift giver. I think I am awful at it. And
it's every year I think this is going to be
the year where I put some serious thought and then
I you know, what I realize is people don't really care.
They don't really care that much, especially the children. Children
don't really cared, don't care.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
If you could ask kids what they had for Christmas
last year and they won't know, or it's still in
a box and we're back the closet, they didn't care.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
Right.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
That's why I always take it out right away and
play with it whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Where I was, I was the kid and I still
am the kid where if you gave me an empty box,
I'd be totally happy, like I would. You've seen you
bubble wrap, you know. I mean, it's we're very simple.
We can find joy in anything. What's going on with
the mush mushroom foragers, We're going to get into that
coming up next.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Stop eating mush rooms.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Mushrooms are having a renaissance in terms of you know,
the mushrooms that I knew that you would take for
recreational purposes was you know the nineties, you know, you
would you know, the shrooms right, and they'd give you
the hallucinet hallucinogenic vibe and you'd see the the I
don't know. I never did them correctly. I never was
into them correctly.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Well, I just think I did.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
I think I did mushrooms twice, and I just I
didn't get it.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
You know, it wasn't my thing. I was like, all right,
what are we doing?
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Made you kind of paranoid, gave you like you saw
tracers maybe.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
For a little while.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
That was at the end of it, and then you
were just kind of hungry and out of it. I
didn't enjoy it. But anyway, there's been a resurgence, and
now mushrooms have the science, the drug science has done
their magic on mushrooms and they're showing up and chocolates
and all sorts of things.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Great, that's what we need.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
But I don't think they're the shrooms of our past.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Well, they're supposed to be less power, right right, Yeah,
theses the opposite of what marijuana has done in terms
of its trending.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
There's a new house.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
There's a new house in the Palisades nine one five
Kagawa Street. Courts, countertops, open floor plan, pool, fire pit,
a fence just tall enough to obscure the view from
ground level. It's about a forty two hundred square foot
four bedroom I believe it's four bedroom, two.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Bath, and it looks pretty nice. There's a problem.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
The problem is that there are no homes four beds,
four and a half bath.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Sorry, what am I thinking? It's the Palsads.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
There are no homes within several blocks of this house,
and it's not technically up for sale. This is just
sort of an opportunity for the builder to show Thomas
James Holmes, to show what they could do for you
in the Palisades.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
This is one of.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
Those strange I mean, it looks weird the fact that
this fully complete, brand new home, so new it's still
got the stickers on the windows, is up and standing
in a neighborhood that is otherwise bereft of lumber. I mean,
there is not a sliver of wood for blocks in
(22:29):
this neighborhood in the Palisades.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Mayor Karen Bass has described it as an important moment
of hope. People that we know that have lived in
the Palisades or did live in the Palisades. Even the
people who escaped their home escaped from the flames. There's
no community left in the Palisades. Yeah, there's no services left.
(22:51):
If a fire has burned through your neighborhood wherever it is,
your Belinda, what have you, and you know how the
fires work, and they hopscotch their way around the neighborhood.
Even if your home wasn't touched or touched minimally, you
still can't live there, still a biohazard mess still after
all this time.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
It's weird that the governor, the mayor, the county, they've
all talked about rebuilding permits and how they need to
move this thing along, but they're not willing to give
up their stranglehold on the bureaucracy that allows people to
build and rebuild homes without getting their two cents in.
(23:27):
You got to do this, you got to have this requirement,
you got to have this fire proofing, you got to
have Now, some of that stuff would already be built
in because nobody wants to lose a house twice, duh.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
But there's such.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
An outcry when it comes to how you know there's
such a housing shortage in the state of California. But
you got seven thousand lots now in the Palisades alone,
not counting the Eton fire in Altadena, you got seven
thousand lots where you've got the ability to build homes.
I know they're higher end, I get it, that's not
(23:59):
But if you were to get those homes built much
more quickly, then you could you could stop this constant
complaining about about housing shortages.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
And this is just one of those things.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
Yeah, maybe a symbol of hope that there's one house
for you know, standing there among blocks.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
It was very similar to.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
This last summer when I was in Maui and after,
you know, almost two years after their fire, and there
are just a handful of homes that are going up
again in areas and entire neighborhoods that have been wiped out.
And for the same reason, it's hard to move back
in there. It just doesn't have the community, it doesn't
doesn't have the physical infrastructure the way it used to
(24:42):
before the fires. As much as it's a symbol of hope,
it's probably a symbol of frustration too.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
All right, coming up next, foraging for mushrooms sounds so oh,
I don't know. Grounding doesn't it getting in touch with
the universe, feeling the roots and the soil, and you know,
taking part in the wild mushrooms.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Well, it's killing people.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
So the state is discouraging you from reading.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
A blog or whatever it is you read.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
On how to get back to nature and get in
tune with yourself. And please don't forage for wild mushrooms.
You're an ass and you may kill yourself doing so.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
That's I feel like that's the whole sub that.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Was the whole thing that was That was great.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
We'll talk about which mushrooms to look for when you're
out there foraging and grounding. Gary, you're doing what I
have it. You're not even in the same zip code
that I am right now.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
So you're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from
KFI Am six forty.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
On Monday, December Areary, Welcome back. I'm headed to the
Bay Area this weekend.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Wondering if you have a good Let's stop in the
passer Robus area.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Thanks, Yes, Jeffrey's Barbeque or anything in Tin City. Jeffrey's
Barbecues kind of downtown Passo.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
What about the wineries, all of them or any of
the wineries?
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Yeah, they usually have great lunches. The Reebully family has
one right off of Highway forty six that's also good
for a good lunch stop spot something like that.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
I'd mentioned a handful of my favorite wineries in Passo,
but I never remember. I just know I have a
great time at all of them.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
You can never.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Hey, later, we're gonna have to get into this story
about the school issued iPads that causing chaos with their kids.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
I know that you had said that we're going to
talk about it today.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
It's just say that Australia has officially banned kids under
the age of sixteen from getting social media accounts.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
I while you were gone, I meant to text you this.
I was talking a little bit about football. Didn't do
Gas Fantasy for play, but was talking a.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Little bit about football.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
And I saw that our boss was out in the
hallway when I was touching on the NFL may have
invited him in and then verbally dismantled the Kansas City
Chiefs before what and the Chiefs fan base as well
himself included before what happened last night. So A, I'm surprised,
(27:19):
I'm here. B I'm glad I'm not there. And see
if I'm not here tomorrow, you'll know why.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Why that's fine.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Between mid November early December, the California Poison Control System
reported twenty one cases of emma toxin poisoning linked to
wild foraged mushrooms. Listen, I am not a fan of mushrooms,
wild or tame, and the idea that you would go
foraging for them out in the hills of Monterey County
(27:50):
or San Francisco Bay Area somewhere are they?
Speaker 2 (27:54):
You have eaten mushrooms more than I have.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
I'm assuming would you say that they It matters that
much on a culinary level for you to have wild
foraged mushrooms as opposed to a mushroom that someone else got.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
I would never be moved to go forage for my
own anything, let alone mushrooms.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
You have a week will to live.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Perhaps, yeah, I mean them. The thing with the wild
mushrooms is it sounds.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
It sounds very cool, It sounds very woo woo, it
sounds very I am of the earth. I am foraging
farm to table mushrooms are great, and pastas or anything.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Really, what have you?
Speaker 1 (28:40):
If you love mushrooms, but the wild mushrooms could result
in complete liver failure severe liver damage. So just knowing
that alone takes away any romance. So foraging in the
field for mushrooms and then bringing them and putting incorporating
them into my meals for my family.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
I don't quite yes.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
And they come with names like the current culprit, by
the way, and the outbreak of these mushroom poisonings is
called death cap.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
Yeah, and they're mistaken.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
They look the same, they taste the same, they smell
the same, and they look the same as the mushroom said,
don't kill you.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Yeah, now you mentioned the liver failure.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
Usually the symptoms of death cap mushroom poisoning come within
six to twenty four hours of ingestion. That includes the
good old fashioned salad of diarrhea, nausea, vomiting, abdominal pain,
and dehydration. Now, at that point usually people feel like
they have recovered. They go through a quick bout of
(29:42):
all of that, and then they feel like they've recovered.
That's when you develop the severe complications, most notably the
acute liver failure, within forty eight to ninety six hours.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
So this is almost like your sickness where you thought
you were over it and then it got worse.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Yeah, totally. I feel like I.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Did you have diarrhea?
Speaker 2 (30:03):
I did not.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Did you have nausea?
Speaker 5 (30:06):
I did not.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Have you had vomiting?
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Nope?
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Have you had anything other than the tickle in your throat?
Some some pain and some chest.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
I didn't even have the chest thing. I don't have
a lot of chest.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
What is the thing you're suffering from?
Speaker 2 (30:20):
It was? I didn't. It was just the throat stuff.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
The sore throat. Does it hurt really bad when you
talked it?
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Did?
Speaker 3 (30:27):
It did?
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Thursday night? Thursday night and Friday morning? It was awful?
Speaker 3 (30:31):
And then that's it? Good for you?
Speaker 2 (30:33):
And then it just kind of it just very slowly
alleviated it.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Yeah, you're fine, You're out of the woods.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Thanks. I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
You know, it'll make you feel good. Is going for
a good long run today?
Speaker 2 (30:43):
You know, I don't go to the doctor.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
You you you don't give me great dig I did
go for a run on Saturday night, which was not
the greatest idea because it was cool outside. It wasn't
cold by any means, but uh, that that was probably
not the smartest one.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Man.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
I'm watching Josh Allen on those on those run yesterday
in the snow, and I'm like, how bad does that hurt?
Running when it's that cold and you're that tired and
the snow.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Speaking of which, I looked up what the temperature is
in Philadelphia today. I think at about kickoff to so
eight o'clock tonight Philadelphia time, it would probably be about
twenty degrees.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
My my husband was watching some of the games with
me yesterday and he's thinking about my schedule, you know,
for the Chargers, and he's like, you know, you might
get away with one in Kansas City. We go to
Kansas City on Friday. You might get away with one.
It might be okay in Kansas City, but you're not
going to escape it.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
In Denver.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
He's gonna He's like, you're gonna be in Denver in January.
You will not escape the cold. And he just smiled
as he was saying.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
It, because he's going to be at home.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
I get it from both of y'all, just delight in
the fact that I could come home with frost bites.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Well, you won't get frostbite, no, will you.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
I'll go in the tunnel.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Before I got to cut off Toes, I don't want
your wife asking me questions when I'm serving or painted mushrooms.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
You've been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
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