July 7, 2026 • 31 mins
HOUR 3 (07/07): The latest headlines in WhatsHappening include President Trump at NATO, a developing evacuation in Manhattan, and early reactions to Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey.
Then, #SwampWatch follows the growing fallout surrounding Graham Platner as more pressure builds for him to exit the race.
And Shannon shares eight habits that could help you live longer before #TrueCrimeTuesday examines how newly released texts from former Massachusetts State Police trooper Michael Proctor could cast doubt on years of criminal investigations.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to k
IF I am six forty the Gary and Shannon Show
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
The iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
One of my girlfriends is Argentinian from one of my
college roommates, and we were texting yesterday about the about
the match, and she said, these guys are nothing compared
to what Argentina can do.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
That may be true.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
They just came back from MESSI looks like he fathered
these kids.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
He does look old. I mean he is, he is old.
There's there's a seventeen year old that was playing for Mexico,
was there?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yeah? I think an eighteen year old.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
It was playing for UH for one of the teams yesterday.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
But yeah, this is a good game, you guys, good game.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I have a question.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Yeah, Hi Gary, Heishi, Hi, Hey Gary?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Am I not surprised that you're a bar soap kaindable guy?
Mm hmmm? Does that mean I have a nice day? Bye?
What does that mean?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I don't know. It sounds like prisons show our humor?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Are there?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Are you a bar soap person?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I am you are.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
That's why that's why hotels are weird, because the body wash.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Well, you have to when you're a hotel.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Yeah, but ed not at home? No, no, no.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Do you have a specific bar of soap you prefer
that you use. No, So it's whatever bar soap you
buy or your wife buys. Yeah, so you change it up,
You ever change it up?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Sure?
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Okay, I just know when the bar soap gets too small,
you go to the drawer and you get another one.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Now, if you were a body wash guy, would you
put it directly on your skin or would you have like.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
A loofah a loofah? Yeah, I would put it directly
on my skin, Okay, because the loofah.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Is great for getting rid of dead skin. It's exfoliating.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Yes, uh Jokewan once gave me a Korean scrubber and
I still have them, Yeah, because I don't use them
very often.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
As you can tell.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
I can tell you got a lot of dead stone. Y,
here's a dead's get it over there.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Just waiting to be sloughyped off?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Rose? What else is going on?
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Time for what's happening?
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Federal prosecutors locally talking about the investigation today into the
suspected members of a transnational organized crime group. They broke
this thing up. We're starting to get to see some
of the video from the operation. The investigation involves murder
and illicit drugs, leading to multiple arrests and locations, sorry,
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multiple arrests in California and through locations throughout the country.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Heat advisory for you know, July temperatures topping one hundred
degrees over the next several days.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
It is going to be hot.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
You know what to do? You live here, You've had
a summer here. Interior temperatures reaching like I said, one
hundred or higher. Some high desert areas could do what
happens in the high desert in July and reach about
one hundred and seven degrees. In terms of when we
will see the temperatures get more moderate, I n I
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don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
What are you doing? Why would you do that?
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Bar soap guy. That's what we do.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah, that's true. That schecks out.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
David facing a key hearing today. This is, of course,
the case of the murder of Celestevas Hernandez, whose body
was found in the trunk of a car at a
Hollywood tow yard. David Burke is David's official name. Schedule
for a status hearing today regarding the murder and dismemberment
of his at the time girlfriend. There is also an
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investigation that has opened up into the Medical Examiner's office
because of leaks that apparently came out of that case.
Than a dozen employees at the office order to answer
questions about whether they saw law enforcement investigation files without
specific authorization after some of the media reports included graphic
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details of the young girl's death.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Mitch McConnell is under a cloak of secrecy in DC.
The Senator, Republican of Kentucky, former majority leader, was hospitalized
in mid June, and his office is being extremely tight
lipped about his condition and updates. Apparently he has been
hospitalized for three weeks. Nobody's saying why. They're just saying
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that he's appreciating the outpouring of support.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
He's eighty four degrees. Eighty four years Oh my god,
I did that.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
He was eighty four degrees before it would be an issue.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Also, I've done that before.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
I don't know what my mental problem is with degrees
and we're just talking about here. I know it must
be what's happening thing where we like go between weather
updates and people dying up dates.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Eighty four degrees.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
The boy was nine together.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
There's also funny also a developing story in Midtown Manhattan.
Several blocks have had to be evacuated in Manhattan this
morning after construction workers found an office building. The buildings
being converted into condos, but they said that there was
a compromise in the building's girders. On the twenty first floor,
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they observed structural support themes that were beginning to buckle.
So the twenty first through twenty sixth floors of this
I think it's a thirty thirty five, thirty seven story building.
Twenty one through twenty six are starting to cave under
the stress. The FDNY said the first call they got
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was about bricks falling off of the building, so no
reports of any injuries. All construction workers were safely evacuated.
But there are cameras just trained on this building to
see if, in fact it's going to come down.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
The first social media reactions for Christopher Nolans The Odyssey
are in on social media. I think my problem, it's
not that I have a problem with Elliott Page as
Achilles per se. It's my disconnect between Homer's Achilles, which
was a man unparalleled by the Greeks, six feet tall,
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a big guy, larger than life warrior, and Elliott Page
is five to one. That's my issue with the disconnect.
It's like the Jack Reacher Show, go On disconnect. It's
like Daniel Craig and Mission Impossible or Tom Cruise even disconnect.
I need my big hulking guys as described in literary tales,
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to be big in hulking. That's just what I for
it to make sense in my brain. If I've read
the story, I need it to depict that on the screen.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
The Alan Richson Jack Reacher is true to the story.
The Tom Cruise not so right. Yeah, so you're not
gonna watch it.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
It's just gonna be a hard thing to get around,
I think, but I probably I'll probably see it. It's
definitely a movie that you'd want to see in the
theater though, right, and it's a Christopher Nolan movie.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
I'll be honest.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
I'd have to go back and check out my cliff
notes from high school.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
You read the books, you didn't have cliff notes. It's okay,
you did the right thing.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
That's one I cheated through.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Really, the Odyssey. Huh, Well, if there was one to
cheat through, it would be.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
That it was long. I'm a cheater and a liar and.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
A crook, and we're going to do this story about
Andrew Gillham. Well, quickly do the grand Platner story out
of Maine. You mentioned flawed candidates. Yeah, but here's another
flawed candidate out of Florida that we now know long
after he dropped out of the political world. Why he
dropped out of the political world.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
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Speaker 4 (08:08):
Well, it's time for you know, swamp Watchump up, dude, because.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
I'm a cheat and a liar, and when I'm not
kissing babies, I'm stealing their lollipops. Here we got the
real problem is that our leaders are done.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
The other side never quits.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
So what I'm not going anywhere.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
So now you train the swap.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
I can imagine what can be and be unburdened by
what has been. You know, Americans have always been gone
at president. They're not stupid.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
A political plunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Why have the people voted for you were not swamp watch,
They're all counterled. Let's start with Graham Platner just very quickly.
This is the guy running for Senate in Maine. He
will be up against Susan Collins in November. That is,
if he sticks in the race. There have been allegations
of at the very least mistree treatment of women in
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a series of text messages, stepping out on his wives
and girlfriends, et cetera, and now officially charged with not charged, sorry,
officially accused of raping a woman five years ago. Senator
Bernie Sanders today says he told Graham Plattner.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
To withdraw from the race.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
He said, I was spokal with grom Butner about the
best play forward plumin in led to these very serious allegations.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
I've recommended that he stumbleside. We don't know if he
will or not.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
He is just the latest to sue who had previously
supported Graham Platner to suggest that he step aside. That
includes Chuck Schumer, Kristen Gillibrand they've also called on him
to step aside to make room for a new candidate.
And there is a timing issue if he If he
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pulls himself out of the race within the next few days,
Democrats can pick who will replace him. If not, They're
gonna have to do some sort of a weird writing
situation which would almost guarantee that Susan Collins gets re elected.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
I had not known.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Well, this was kind of a blind spot because we
don't pay a hell of a lot of attention to
Maine politics unless they are become mainstream. But that he
is a wife, and that she was the one that
alerted the campaign to the text messages, that she found
the dating websites.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
And then was upset that reporters covered the story. Like
she said, she was providing it to the Democratic Party
so they could basically had she was providing them appo
research at that point, hoping that it was doesn't that out.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Reek of a beard marriage, Like he's married, so everything's
all cope aesthetic. And then she's letting the campaign know
where he could have an Achilles heel, i e. Sex
messages to strangers, right, Yeah, I don't know. It's very odd.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Also odd.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Remember the name Andrew Gilliam gill I brought this name
up to get and he nailed it. He's like, wasn't
he running for Florida governor? Yes, yes he was. He
was a Democratic rising star. Andrew Gillim. He actually came
within thirty three thousand votes of beating Ron De Santis.
This is back in twenty eighteen in the Florida governor's race.
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He was arrested on Friday and pulled over for erratic driving.
They found a meth pipe, a glass pipe, a bunch
of joints on three packages that tested positive for meth.
That was quite the fall, although apparently he got into
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some legal troubles shortly after he almost became governor of Florida.
In the year of twenty twenty, he was found intoxicated
in a hotel room in Miami Beach with two men.
He went into rehab, came out as bisexual later that year,
and then two years later, a federal grand jury indicted
him on charges of conspiracy and wirefraud.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Huh, but yourself in the spotlight, It's gonna burn bright
at some point. NATO allies are going to showcase their
defense spending at a summit in Turkey this week. President
Trump landed there several hours ago. This is a two
day gathering of NATO will be at the Presidential Palace
there in Anchora. A year after NATO members said they
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were going to ramp up all of their security related
spending to five percent of GDP under pressure from the
guy known as President Trump. The NATO chief Mark Rutte
insists that European countries are delivering on their promise, that
they have bolstered their military budgets, that they are trying
to take more responsibility for the defense of their continent
in the face of Russia, not officially a member of NATO,
(12:50):
but Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelenski is expected to be there
as well. Democrats, they said, are diplomat my bad. Diplomats
are banking on Trump's good relationship with with the Turkish
leader Airdowan and hopefully they can keep his mood in check.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
And he doesn't.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
He doesn't got upset at them and berate them in
front of the cameras like he has in the past.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
So all right, what are we doing with Oh my goodness,
I'm like, who's Michael Proctor? Ah, the Karen read the
story that said, well, Matt sent it to us.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
No, all right.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
The Karen Reid trial is something that captivated the East Coast,
specifically Boston. But it was the case of the woman
who was dating I believe a Boston cop and the
two knew were known.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
To have a volatile relationship.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
They had they liked their cocktails, and they'd have some
of them and then they'd fight with each other, and
that was definitely the case. On the night that he died,
they went out for drinks with friends a couple of bars,
went over to one of the friend's houses, where the
cocktailing continued. They get into some sort of fight. He
ends up in the snow in the front a lawn
there which is covered in snow because it's in the
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middle of a snowstorm. She takes off and finds out
in the middle of the night that his body has
been found.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
He is frozen, He is dead.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Did she hit him with her car and leave him
to die in the snow was the crux of the
whole trial, if I'm not mistaken. She hired Alan Jackson,
who was a prosecutor here in La County for years,
prosecuted high profile cases here before deciding to make money
for a living and went over to the other side
and became a defense attorney. He's the one who was
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signed up to represent the Hiner's kid after the Reiner
kid killed his parents and then backed out once he
realized there was not any that was freed up for it.
But he was coming off a successful win with Karen
Reid there in Boston. But one of the troopers who
testified at the Karen Reid trial had a lot of
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racist and misogynistic texts. How this will impact other cases
he was involved with and the future of these types
of things. You know, you look back to what was
the CoP's name in the oj trial, Mark Furman, Mark Furman,
where he was heard using the N word at times
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some other slurs, and they decided that he needed to
be as testimony needed to be thrown out right and
because that he may have a bias towards black people.
Are all cops texts now free game.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
And regardless of what they say, as awful as it
might be or a defensive as it might be to
some people, does that automatically mean that their police work
is bad?
Speaker 1 (16:06):
And can they do good police work without having their
bias show and said police work?
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Yeah, we'll talk about we'll do true crime Tuesday when
we come back.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on Demand from KFI
Am six forty.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
I want to mention this as an article. I read
this Morning out of the BBC eight bad habits that
could be shortening your life. They have nothing to do
with exercise or what you eat or any of that.
We all know, we all know what we should be doing.
These are other things.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
It's all about your biological age, which is not only
the best predictor of your life span, but also your
health span, the amount of your life that you can
expect to enjoy in good health. Genetics surprisingly only play
a minor role in setting your biological age. Only one
the estimates only fifteen to twenty percent of the variation
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and longevity is due to genetics. So that means that
our lifespan is mostly dictated by lifestyle and environment. And
according to research by Harvard Harvard Med School, the great
news is it's never too late to improve your biological age.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
So here you go.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Number one. Ignoring strangers very bad for you.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Oh, ignoring them is bad for you.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Oh, okay, you thought it was good for you. I
think that's more. Strangers do not talk to people you
do not know.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
No, And the fact that you thought that that was
a thing that's so funny is.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Why you need to hear it.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Okay, I got it.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
If you take your earbuds out and interact with people
around you, you may live longer, is the takeaway. Doctor
Emir Levine is a professor of psychology at Colombia. He
says interacting with strangers is the key to feeling connected
and confident. It also rewires our brains into a less
anxious mindset. Talk to people, got it, Talk to the
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guy at the checkstand. Being stuck in toxic relationships while
we know that that just causes chronic stress. Get rid
of those number three. Feeling old, Feeling old not good
for your health. Every time I say something stupid, like
while in the winter of my life, I'm adding years
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or days or months or whatever to my biological age.
Stop feeling like you're old. You're fifty two years old.
You're not old.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Staying in also bad.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
They right. It may feel easier and cheaper after a
long day's work to flop in front of a screen,
but going out and engaging with the arts, or with
a meal or with people is good for you. Forgetting
to floss is up there, gum disease, I think. Forgetting
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to flosses up there with giving up. If you've just decided.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
To not floss anymore.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
You're just like, eh, me teeth. But ah, there is
definitely a correlation. Ninety percent of people with cardiovascular disease
also have gum disease. It also hits your metabolism. It's
a whole thing. Take care of your teeth. Eating between
meals also making you older. You're snacking probably makes you lethargic.
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You're not going to move as much standing on both legs.
Don't do that anymore. I want everyone to start balancing
on one leg. Obviously, they say it's more practical to
use both legs simultaneously most of the time, but as
we age, we should regularly be testing our balance. Balance
is a key indicator. The British Journal of Sports Medicine
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found that people who could not balance on one leg
for ten seconds had an eighty four percent chance higher
risk of death from from any cause in the next decade.
I get that ten seconds, stand on that leg. Just
do it from time to time. And then it says
giving up caffeine.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Don't give up caffeine. Huh.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Black tea is actually good for reducing the risk of Alzheimer's,
and one study published in the journal Nature Translational Psychiatry
that's in the Weeds found that drinking one to six
cups of tea a day correlated to well, anyway, a.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Little caffeine's good for you.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
It turns out I do a lot of That is lethargy, right,
It's like, you give up caffeine, you're not going to
move as much. You eat between meals, You're not going
to move as much. You don't balance not moving as much.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Movement is the key.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Movement is the key.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Man.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
You said it yesterday. Your body's made to move it is. Well,
it's time for True Crime Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
The story is true? Sounds true? No, it sounds made up.
I don't know. Gary and Shannon present True Crime. We
mentioned the Karen Reid case many many times. She, of course,
was accused of.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
Killing her boyfriend. The first trial ended in a mistrial.
She claims that she was railroaded by police officers because
her boyfriend was law enforcement, and in fact was acquitted
on the second go round. One of the people that
testified against her and part of the investigation against her,
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was Massachusetts State Police trooper Michael Proctor. His time on
the stand in that Karen Reid case revealed a series
of misogynistic texts messages. Other cases came up that he
had investigated, and the attorney started sniffing around this guy
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and found a decade plus of misogynistic, racist, brutal text
messages that he was sending to friends and in some
cases other police officers. And now there are at least
two lawsuits trying to overturn or at least retry some
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of the cases that he was involved with. For example,
a twenty twenty one murder case against Miles King, a
black man, trying to have his charges dismissed on the
grounds that this state trooper, Michael Proctor, had quote bigotry
that infected the entire investigation.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Now, I'm not going to go through and read you
the text messages, but they're the worst of the worst.
They're not just like funny haha's. Yeah, it's not a
it's not wobblers. These are blatantly awful. We should wear
sheets lynch people type of text messages. Not done in
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any sort of funny way, if you could even put
them in a funny way ever, But they are really,
really bad, and there are a huge quantity of them.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Yeah, they're not isolated, they span years. They appeared in
conversations with friends, with colleagues, with other officers they were
they occurred almost daily that something that you would find
and flag potentially is just a person of normal common
sense you would say that is racist or even misogynistic
or anti semitic.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Even in one of.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
The texts, he wonders, I can't believe I passed the
background check to be a trooper.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Yeah, which is exactly right.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
But it does kind of open up the conversation of
if you are in law enforcement, when are your texts
an open record? Like when why do we even have
his text messages?
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Yeah, and it raises the question of can you be
good at one job and be a complete a hole
in the rest of your life.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
You cannot be. You cannot send those text messages and
then not cloud your work as a police officer.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Yeah, And I don't know how. I don't know what
sort of an argument he's going to be able to
make about that.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
It.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Like you said earlier in the last break you discussed
this is similar to the questions that surrounded Mark Furman
and the investigation into the allegations against OJ Simpson. If
he said things that can be construed as racist and
if he set them all the time. Did that cloud
his judgment while he was investigating a murder case where
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the suspect happened to be a black guy.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
In Brady versus maryl And how what you're gonna say? Okay,
I just kidding.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Prosecutors are required to disclose this stuff, to say, yeah,
we've got uh, we've got a furman on this case.
You know, we've got we've got a guy that has
this in his past.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Or what have you.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Basically, they have to disclose any evidence that would impeach
a witness or favor the defense. And this guy's text
messages became public after defense attorneys subpoenaed them to prove
police misconduct and bias. So it sounds like if it's
just up to defense attorneys to subpoena them and a
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judge to sign off on it, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
And then if the catch would be that the defense
attorney catches the they ask the officer something like, have
you ever Harvard ill will towards any specific race or
ethnicity And they say no, and they say, well you
have text messages that prove it, and they go, well,
I mean, you know, and in that case, similar to
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what we saw on Oja Simpson was. It wasn't that
the testimony was thrown out. It was the instruction that
if you find one section of testimony that is not truthful,
you can disregard that witness is entire testimony. And that's
where that that's where the bombshell comes in, not.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Just their testimony, their investigation, any work they did. Yeah,
it all gets tossed out.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Yeah, these are You're right though, But.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
If you're an officer at any place, you know, man,
I'm not saying that officers are sending these text but
if your text can be subpoena at any time, suddenly
you know you you.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Answer text away. Gary Hoffman answers texts.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
By not answering text messages.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Right, well, now I know it's your Gary and Shannon
will continue.
Speaker 5 (27:06):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
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Speaker 3 (27:16):
That is so cool.
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I was just saying, I walked in there and I
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We haven't been told not to do that.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Even think about that.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Hey, here's a good true crime story that we don't
get to tell. Happy endings to I mean, I think
there's gonna be a happy ending. Andrew Escobar has been found.
This little boy went missing three years ago. He's been
found safe.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
He was found in the US with his mother years
after baloney stories when you have a missing child.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Who's with their mother.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
Said that his mom her took him with her because
that's her baby.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Who was eleven at the time.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Wan his father, said he was in shock and disbelief
when he got a call just this week from the
Elpaso Police officer that indicating that mom had activated an
alert while trying to cross the border from Mexico into
the US.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
So I guess he had been in.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
Mexico at some point or I guess for a long
time before he was found. He was last seen in
a place called Rio Rancho, New Mexico. Albuquerque police said
that mom was facing multiple felony warrants after violating the
custody agreement with.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Babies are okay with their moms, Well, very rarely am
I gonna think that you. I don't care if a
mom is is strung out or whatever, She's gonna take
care of her baby. I do not buy it when
people send these alerts and I get such helfer it
every time and out Caro'll die on this hill. We
get these alerts, these amber alerts. Oh the baby was
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last with her his mom. Okay, good, that's where the
baby should be. Get out of here. Missing child. He's eleven,
found safely with his mother. We don't often get these
good feeling endings.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
We don't get happy. Oh, come on, story.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Especially, I mean, never mind.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
I was just gonna leave it into Love Island and
sincere and I pulled up the nose at that point.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
That was going to be unfair.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Okay, we've got monks and merrill coming up next tomorrow.
By the way, there's a big list of restaurants that
have shut down.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Due to UH health violations. Health violations.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Make the noise.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
You're the one who makes the good noises? Who did that?
It was disgusting body noises. I don't know his body noises, Thankfully.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
I don't make body You don't. I bet you don't either.
Do you make body noises? Scary?
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Yes? Really significant?
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Really?
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Oh yeah, like you.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Do it in front of your wife.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
No need, no need, that's right, no need, no need?
Speaker 2 (30:04):
What she doesn't?
Speaker 4 (30:04):
What good is it? It's not she doesn't find it funny,
So why would I tell you jokes? She doesn't think
it's funny.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
When you go on your boys trip to Oklahoma later
this year, are you guys gonna sit around and make
noises together.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Like around the campfire and blazing saddles?
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Well, like my brother and his friends growing up. I
remember they used to fart at each other all the time.
Do you guys still do.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
That kind of age out of that?
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Do you?
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (30:27):
I think so, because you don't trust them anymore? Do you?
Speaker 3 (30:30):
You shouldn't You shouldn't You never know?
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Okay, I'm glad we ended the show on such a
high note.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Well, it's better than go ahead, mom, kidnap your kid.
I don't care.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
It's not kidnapping. If it's the mom is the whole point.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
If she doesn't have custody, it's kiddaing.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
She's fine, rule following, She's fine.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
Lonksa and Meryl kidnapping your kids when we come, when
we'll see tomorrow. Stay drive everybody, blessings.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
This is you've been listening to the Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
You can all always hear us live on kf I
AM six forty nine am to noon every Monday through Friday,
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
The iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
One of my girlfriends is Argentinian from one of my
college roommates, and we were texting yesterday about the about
the match, and she said, these guys are nothing compared
to what Argentina can do.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
That may be true.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
They just came back from MESSI looks like he fathered
these kids.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
He does look old. I mean he is, he is old.
There's there's a seventeen year old that was playing for Mexico,
was there?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yeah? I think an eighteen year old.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
It was playing for UH for one of the teams yesterday.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
But yeah, this is a good game, you guys, good game.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I have a question.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Yeah, Hi Gary, Heishi, Hi, Hey Gary?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Am I not surprised that you're a bar soap kaindable guy?
Mm hmmm? Does that mean I have a nice day? Bye?
What does that mean?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I don't know. It sounds like prisons show our humor?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Are there?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Are you a bar soap person?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I am you are.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
That's why that's why hotels are weird, because the body wash.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Well, you have to when you're a hotel.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Yeah, but ed not at home? No, no, no.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Do you have a specific bar of soap you prefer
that you use. No, So it's whatever bar soap you
buy or your wife buys. Yeah, so you change it up,
You ever change it up?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Sure?
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Okay, I just know when the bar soap gets too small,
you go to the drawer and you get another one.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Now, if you were a body wash guy, would you
put it directly on your skin or would you have like.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
A loofah a loofah? Yeah, I would put it directly
on my skin, Okay, because the loofah.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Is great for getting rid of dead skin. It's exfoliating.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Yes, uh Jokewan once gave me a Korean scrubber and
I still have them, Yeah, because I don't use them
very often.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
As you can tell.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
I can tell you got a lot of dead stone. Y,
here's a dead's get it over there.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Just waiting to be sloughyped off?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Rose? What else is going on?
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Time for what's happening?
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Federal prosecutors locally talking about the investigation today into the
suspected members of a transnational organized crime group. They broke
this thing up. We're starting to get to see some
of the video from the operation. The investigation involves murder
and illicit drugs, leading to multiple arrests and locations, sorry,
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multiple arrests in California and through locations throughout the country.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Heat advisory for you know, July temperatures topping one hundred
degrees over the next several days.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
It is going to be hot.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
You know what to do? You live here, You've had
a summer here. Interior temperatures reaching like I said, one
hundred or higher. Some high desert areas could do what
happens in the high desert in July and reach about
one hundred and seven degrees. In terms of when we
will see the temperatures get more moderate, I n I
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don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
What are you doing? Why would you do that?
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Bar soap guy. That's what we do.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah, that's true. That schecks out.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
David facing a key hearing today. This is, of course,
the case of the murder of Celestevas Hernandez, whose body
was found in the trunk of a car at a
Hollywood tow yard. David Burke is David's official name. Schedule
for a status hearing today regarding the murder and dismemberment
of his at the time girlfriend. There is also an
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investigation that has opened up into the Medical Examiner's office
because of leaks that apparently came out of that case.
Than a dozen employees at the office order to answer
questions about whether they saw law enforcement investigation files without
specific authorization after some of the media reports included graphic
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details of the young girl's death.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Mitch McConnell is under a cloak of secrecy in DC.
The Senator, Republican of Kentucky, former majority leader, was hospitalized
in mid June, and his office is being extremely tight
lipped about his condition and updates. Apparently he has been
hospitalized for three weeks. Nobody's saying why. They're just saying
(04:39):
that he's appreciating the outpouring of support.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
He's eighty four degrees. Eighty four years Oh my god,
I did that.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
He was eighty four degrees before it would be an issue.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Also, I've done that before.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
I don't know what my mental problem is with degrees
and we're just talking about here. I know it must
be what's happening thing where we like go between weather
updates and people dying up dates.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Eighty four degrees.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
The boy was nine together.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
There's also funny also a developing story in Midtown Manhattan.
Several blocks have had to be evacuated in Manhattan this
morning after construction workers found an office building. The buildings
being converted into condos, but they said that there was
a compromise in the building's girders. On the twenty first floor,
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they observed structural support themes that were beginning to buckle.
So the twenty first through twenty sixth floors of this
I think it's a thirty thirty five, thirty seven story building.
Twenty one through twenty six are starting to cave under
the stress. The FDNY said the first call they got
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was about bricks falling off of the building, so no
reports of any injuries. All construction workers were safely evacuated.
But there are cameras just trained on this building to
see if, in fact it's going to come down.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
The first social media reactions for Christopher Nolans The Odyssey
are in on social media. I think my problem, it's
not that I have a problem with Elliott Page as
Achilles per se. It's my disconnect between Homer's Achilles, which
was a man unparalleled by the Greeks, six feet tall,
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a big guy, larger than life warrior, and Elliott Page
is five to one. That's my issue with the disconnect.
It's like the Jack Reacher Show, go On disconnect. It's
like Daniel Craig and Mission Impossible or Tom Cruise even disconnect.
I need my big hulking guys as described in literary tales,
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to be big in hulking. That's just what I for
it to make sense in my brain. If I've read
the story, I need it to depict that on the screen.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
The Alan Richson Jack Reacher is true to the story.
The Tom Cruise not so right. Yeah, so you're not
gonna watch it.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
It's just gonna be a hard thing to get around,
I think, but I probably I'll probably see it. It's
definitely a movie that you'd want to see in the
theater though, right, and it's a Christopher Nolan movie.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
I'll be honest.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
I'd have to go back and check out my cliff
notes from high school.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
You read the books, you didn't have cliff notes. It's okay,
you did the right thing.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
That's one I cheated through.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Really, the Odyssey. Huh, Well, if there was one to
cheat through, it would be.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
That it was long. I'm a cheater and a liar and.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
A crook, and we're going to do this story about
Andrew Gillham. Well, quickly do the grand Platner story out
of Maine. You mentioned flawed candidates. Yeah, but here's another
flawed candidate out of Florida that we now know long
after he dropped out of the political world. Why he
dropped out of the political world.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
A M six forty.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Well, it's time for you know, swamp Watchump up, dude, because.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
I'm a cheat and a liar, and when I'm not
kissing babies, I'm stealing their lollipops. Here we got the
real problem is that our leaders are done.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
The other side never quits.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
So what I'm not going anywhere.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
So now you train the swap.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
I can imagine what can be and be unburdened by
what has been. You know, Americans have always been gone
at president. They're not stupid.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
A political plunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Why have the people voted for you were not swamp watch,
They're all counterled. Let's start with Graham Platner just very quickly.
This is the guy running for Senate in Maine. He
will be up against Susan Collins in November. That is,
if he sticks in the race. There have been allegations
of at the very least mistree treatment of women in
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a series of text messages, stepping out on his wives
and girlfriends, et cetera, and now officially charged with not charged, sorry,
officially accused of raping a woman five years ago. Senator
Bernie Sanders today says he told Graham Plattner.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
To withdraw from the race.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
He said, I was spokal with grom Butner about the
best play forward plumin in led to these very serious allegations.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
I've recommended that he stumbleside. We don't know if he
will or not.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
He is just the latest to sue who had previously
supported Graham Platner to suggest that he step aside. That
includes Chuck Schumer, Kristen Gillibrand they've also called on him
to step aside to make room for a new candidate.
And there is a timing issue if he If he
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pulls himself out of the race within the next few days,
Democrats can pick who will replace him. If not, They're
gonna have to do some sort of a weird writing
situation which would almost guarantee that Susan Collins gets re elected.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
I had not known.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Well, this was kind of a blind spot because we
don't pay a hell of a lot of attention to
Maine politics unless they are become mainstream. But that he
is a wife, and that she was the one that
alerted the campaign to the text messages, that she found
the dating websites.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
And then was upset that reporters covered the story. Like
she said, she was providing it to the Democratic Party
so they could basically had she was providing them appo
research at that point, hoping that it was doesn't that out.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Reek of a beard marriage, Like he's married, so everything's
all cope aesthetic. And then she's letting the campaign know
where he could have an Achilles heel, i e. Sex
messages to strangers, right, Yeah, I don't know. It's very odd.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Also odd.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Remember the name Andrew Gilliam gill I brought this name
up to get and he nailed it. He's like, wasn't
he running for Florida governor? Yes, yes he was. He
was a Democratic rising star. Andrew Gillim. He actually came
within thirty three thousand votes of beating Ron De Santis.
This is back in twenty eighteen in the Florida governor's race.
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He was arrested on Friday and pulled over for erratic driving.
They found a meth pipe, a glass pipe, a bunch
of joints on three packages that tested positive for meth.
That was quite the fall, although apparently he got into
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some legal troubles shortly after he almost became governor of Florida.
In the year of twenty twenty, he was found intoxicated
in a hotel room in Miami Beach with two men.
He went into rehab, came out as bisexual later that year,
and then two years later, a federal grand jury indicted
him on charges of conspiracy and wirefraud.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Huh, but yourself in the spotlight, It's gonna burn bright
at some point. NATO allies are going to showcase their
defense spending at a summit in Turkey this week. President
Trump landed there several hours ago. This is a two
day gathering of NATO will be at the Presidential Palace
there in Anchora. A year after NATO members said they
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were going to ramp up all of their security related
spending to five percent of GDP under pressure from the
guy known as President Trump. The NATO chief Mark Rutte
insists that European countries are delivering on their promise, that
they have bolstered their military budgets, that they are trying
to take more responsibility for the defense of their continent
in the face of Russia, not officially a member of NATO,
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but Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelenski is expected to be there
as well. Democrats, they said, are diplomat my bad. Diplomats
are banking on Trump's good relationship with with the Turkish
leader Airdowan and hopefully they can keep his mood in check.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
And he doesn't.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
He doesn't got upset at them and berate them in
front of the cameras like he has in the past.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
So all right, what are we doing with Oh my goodness,
I'm like, who's Michael Proctor? Ah, the Karen read the
story that said, well, Matt sent it to us.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
No, all right.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
The Karen Reid trial is something that captivated the East Coast,
specifically Boston. But it was the case of the woman
who was dating I believe a Boston cop and the
two knew were known.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
To have a volatile relationship.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
They had they liked their cocktails, and they'd have some
of them and then they'd fight with each other, and
that was definitely the case. On the night that he died,
they went out for drinks with friends a couple of bars,
went over to one of the friend's houses, where the
cocktailing continued. They get into some sort of fight. He
ends up in the snow in the front a lawn
there which is covered in snow because it's in the
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middle of a snowstorm. She takes off and finds out
in the middle of the night that his body has
been found.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
He is frozen, He is dead.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Did she hit him with her car and leave him
to die in the snow was the crux of the
whole trial, if I'm not mistaken. She hired Alan Jackson,
who was a prosecutor here in La County for years,
prosecuted high profile cases here before deciding to make money
for a living and went over to the other side
and became a defense attorney. He's the one who was
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signed up to represent the Hiner's kid after the Reiner
kid killed his parents and then backed out once he
realized there was not any that was freed up for it.
But he was coming off a successful win with Karen
Reid there in Boston. But one of the troopers who
testified at the Karen Reid trial had a lot of
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racist and misogynistic texts. How this will impact other cases
he was involved with and the future of these types
of things. You know, you look back to what was
the CoP's name in the oj trial, Mark Furman, Mark Furman,
where he was heard using the N word at times
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some other slurs, and they decided that he needed to
be as testimony needed to be thrown out right and
because that he may have a bias towards black people.
Are all cops texts now free game.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
And regardless of what they say, as awful as it
might be or a defensive as it might be to
some people, does that automatically mean that their police work
is bad?
Speaker 1 (16:06):
And can they do good police work without having their
bias show and said police work?
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Yeah, we'll talk about we'll do true crime Tuesday when
we come back.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on Demand from KFI
Am six forty.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
I want to mention this as an article. I read
this Morning out of the BBC eight bad habits that
could be shortening your life. They have nothing to do
with exercise or what you eat or any of that.
We all know, we all know what we should be doing.
These are other things.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
It's all about your biological age, which is not only
the best predictor of your life span, but also your
health span, the amount of your life that you can
expect to enjoy in good health. Genetics surprisingly only play
a minor role in setting your biological age. Only one
the estimates only fifteen to twenty percent of the variation
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and longevity is due to genetics. So that means that
our lifespan is mostly dictated by lifestyle and environment. And
according to research by Harvard Harvard Med School, the great
news is it's never too late to improve your biological age.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
So here you go.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Number one. Ignoring strangers very bad for you.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Oh, ignoring them is bad for you.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Oh, okay, you thought it was good for you. I
think that's more. Strangers do not talk to people you
do not know.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
No, And the fact that you thought that that was
a thing that's so funny is.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Why you need to hear it.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Okay, I got it.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
If you take your earbuds out and interact with people
around you, you may live longer, is the takeaway. Doctor
Emir Levine is a professor of psychology at Colombia. He
says interacting with strangers is the key to feeling connected
and confident. It also rewires our brains into a less
anxious mindset. Talk to people, got it, Talk to the
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guy at the checkstand. Being stuck in toxic relationships while
we know that that just causes chronic stress. Get rid
of those number three. Feeling old, Feeling old not good
for your health. Every time I say something stupid, like
while in the winter of my life, I'm adding years
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or days or months or whatever to my biological age.
Stop feeling like you're old. You're fifty two years old.
You're not old.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Staying in also bad.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
They right. It may feel easier and cheaper after a
long day's work to flop in front of a screen,
but going out and engaging with the arts, or with
a meal or with people is good for you. Forgetting
to floss is up there, gum disease, I think. Forgetting
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to flosses up there with giving up. If you've just decided.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
To not floss anymore.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
You're just like, eh, me teeth. But ah, there is
definitely a correlation. Ninety percent of people with cardiovascular disease
also have gum disease. It also hits your metabolism. It's
a whole thing. Take care of your teeth. Eating between
meals also making you older. You're snacking probably makes you lethargic.
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You're not going to move as much standing on both legs.
Don't do that anymore. I want everyone to start balancing
on one leg. Obviously, they say it's more practical to
use both legs simultaneously most of the time, but as
we age, we should regularly be testing our balance. Balance
is a key indicator. The British Journal of Sports Medicine
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found that people who could not balance on one leg
for ten seconds had an eighty four percent chance higher
risk of death from from any cause in the next decade.
I get that ten seconds, stand on that leg. Just
do it from time to time. And then it says
giving up caffeine.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Don't give up caffeine. Huh.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Black tea is actually good for reducing the risk of Alzheimer's,
and one study published in the journal Nature Translational Psychiatry
that's in the Weeds found that drinking one to six
cups of tea a day correlated to well, anyway, a.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Little caffeine's good for you.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
It turns out I do a lot of That is lethargy, right,
It's like, you give up caffeine, you're not going to
move as much. You eat between meals, You're not going
to move as much. You don't balance not moving as much.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Movement is the key.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Movement is the key.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Man.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
You said it yesterday. Your body's made to move it is. Well,
it's time for True Crime Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
The story is true? Sounds true? No, it sounds made up.
I don't know. Gary and Shannon present True Crime. We
mentioned the Karen Reid case many many times. She, of course,
was accused of.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
Killing her boyfriend. The first trial ended in a mistrial.
She claims that she was railroaded by police officers because
her boyfriend was law enforcement, and in fact was acquitted
on the second go round. One of the people that
testified against her and part of the investigation against her,
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was Massachusetts State Police trooper Michael Proctor. His time on
the stand in that Karen Reid case revealed a series
of misogynistic texts messages. Other cases came up that he
had investigated, and the attorney started sniffing around this guy
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and found a decade plus of misogynistic, racist, brutal text
messages that he was sending to friends and in some
cases other police officers. And now there are at least
two lawsuits trying to overturn or at least retry some
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of the cases that he was involved with. For example,
a twenty twenty one murder case against Miles King, a
black man, trying to have his charges dismissed on the
grounds that this state trooper, Michael Proctor, had quote bigotry
that infected the entire investigation.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Now, I'm not going to go through and read you
the text messages, but they're the worst of the worst.
They're not just like funny haha's. Yeah, it's not a
it's not wobblers. These are blatantly awful. We should wear
sheets lynch people type of text messages. Not done in
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any sort of funny way, if you could even put
them in a funny way ever, But they are really,
really bad, and there are a huge quantity of them.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Yeah, they're not isolated, they span years. They appeared in
conversations with friends, with colleagues, with other officers they were
they occurred almost daily that something that you would find
and flag potentially is just a person of normal common
sense you would say that is racist or even misogynistic
or anti semitic.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Even in one of.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
The texts, he wonders, I can't believe I passed the
background check to be a trooper.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Yeah, which is exactly right.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
But it does kind of open up the conversation of
if you are in law enforcement, when are your texts
an open record? Like when why do we even have
his text messages?
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Yeah, and it raises the question of can you be
good at one job and be a complete a hole
in the rest of your life.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
You cannot be. You cannot send those text messages and
then not cloud your work as a police officer.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Yeah, And I don't know how. I don't know what
sort of an argument he's going to be able to
make about that.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
It.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Like you said earlier in the last break you discussed
this is similar to the questions that surrounded Mark Furman
and the investigation into the allegations against OJ Simpson. If
he said things that can be construed as racist and
if he set them all the time. Did that cloud
his judgment while he was investigating a murder case where
(24:55):
the suspect happened to be a black guy.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
In Brady versus maryl And how what you're gonna say? Okay,
I just kidding.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Prosecutors are required to disclose this stuff, to say, yeah,
we've got uh, we've got a furman on this case.
You know, we've got we've got a guy that has
this in his past.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Or what have you.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Basically, they have to disclose any evidence that would impeach
a witness or favor the defense. And this guy's text
messages became public after defense attorneys subpoenaed them to prove
police misconduct and bias. So it sounds like if it's
just up to defense attorneys to subpoena them and a
(25:41):
judge to sign off on it, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
And then if the catch would be that the defense
attorney catches the they ask the officer something like, have
you ever Harvard ill will towards any specific race or
ethnicity And they say no, and they say, well you
have text messages that prove it, and they go, well,
I mean, you know, and in that case, similar to
(26:12):
what we saw on Oja Simpson was. It wasn't that
the testimony was thrown out. It was the instruction that
if you find one section of testimony that is not truthful,
you can disregard that witness is entire testimony. And that's
where that that's where the bombshell comes in, not.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Just their testimony, their investigation, any work they did. Yeah,
it all gets tossed out.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Yeah, these are You're right though, But.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
If you're an officer at any place, you know, man,
I'm not saying that officers are sending these text but
if your text can be subpoena at any time, suddenly
you know you you.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Answer text away. Gary Hoffman answers texts.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
By not answering text messages.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Right, well, now I know it's your Gary and Shannon
will continue.
Speaker 5 (27:06):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
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Speaker 2 (27:14):
I love when you guys sing with the commercials.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
That is so cool.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
I was just saying, I walked in there and I
said to Elmer Proof, nobody listens to our show.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
We haven't been told not to do that.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Even think about that.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Hey, here's a good true crime story that we don't
get to tell. Happy endings to I mean, I think
there's gonna be a happy ending. Andrew Escobar has been found.
This little boy went missing three years ago. He's been
found safe.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
He was found in the US with his mother years
after baloney stories when you have a missing child.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Who's with their mother.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
Said that his mom her took him with her because
that's her baby.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Who was eleven at the time.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Wan his father, said he was in shock and disbelief
when he got a call just this week from the
Elpaso Police officer that indicating that mom had activated an
alert while trying to cross the border from Mexico into
the US.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
So I guess he had been in.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
Mexico at some point or I guess for a long
time before he was found. He was last seen in
a place called Rio Rancho, New Mexico. Albuquerque police said
that mom was facing multiple felony warrants after violating the
custody agreement with.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Babies are okay with their moms, Well, very rarely am
I gonna think that you. I don't care if a
mom is is strung out or whatever, She's gonna take
care of her baby. I do not buy it when
people send these alerts and I get such helfer it
every time and out Caro'll die on this hill. We
get these alerts, these amber alerts. Oh the baby was
(28:52):
last with her his mom. Okay, good, that's where the
baby should be. Get out of here. Missing child. He's eleven,
found safely with his mother. We don't often get these
good feeling endings.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
We don't get happy. Oh, come on, story.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Especially, I mean, never mind.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
I was just gonna leave it into Love Island and
sincere and I pulled up the nose at that point.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
That was going to be unfair.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Okay, we've got monks and merrill coming up next tomorrow.
By the way, there's a big list of restaurants that
have shut down.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Due to UH health violations. Health violations.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Make the noise.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
You're the one who makes the good noises? Who did that?
It was disgusting body noises. I don't know his body noises, Thankfully.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
I don't make body You don't. I bet you don't either.
Do you make body noises? Scary?
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Yes? Really significant?
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Really?
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Oh yeah, like you.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Do it in front of your wife.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
No need, no need, that's right, no need, no need?
Speaker 2 (30:04):
What she doesn't?
Speaker 4 (30:04):
What good is it? It's not she doesn't find it funny,
So why would I tell you jokes? She doesn't think
it's funny.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
When you go on your boys trip to Oklahoma later
this year, are you guys gonna sit around and make
noises together.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Like around the campfire and blazing saddles?
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Well, like my brother and his friends growing up. I
remember they used to fart at each other all the time.
Do you guys still do.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
That kind of age out of that?
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Do you?
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (30:27):
I think so, because you don't trust them anymore? Do you?
Speaker 3 (30:30):
You shouldn't You shouldn't You never know?
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Okay, I'm glad we ended the show on such a
high note.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Well, it's better than go ahead, mom, kidnap your kid.
I don't care.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
It's not kidnapping. If it's the mom is the whole point.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
If she doesn't have custody, it's kiddaing.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
She's fine, rule following, She's fine.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
Lonksa and Meryl kidnapping your kids when we come, when
we'll see tomorrow. Stay drive everybody, blessings.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
This is you've been listening to the Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
You can all always hear us live on kf I
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