July 9, 2026 • 26 mins
HOUR 1 (07/09) – Gary & Shannon open the show with a mysterious "private" letter that thankfully isn't anthrax before diving into the day's biggest headlines. Graham Platner suspends his Senate campaign amid mounting pressure, President Trump declares the Iran ceasefire over as new U.S. strikes target Iranian positions, and a shocking TerrorInTheSkies - an Argentine flight instructor shocks the aviation world after jumping from a plane mid-lesson, forcing his student to land the aircraft alone.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon, and you're listening to kf
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on demand on the iHeartRadio app. I got some mail
here mail, It says KFI Radio Carab Shannon Farren.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
And then it says private.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Oh, someone's getting pictures.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Be anthrax, Please be anthracked. Why would they say private?
If just in case it's in there? Careful you get
a short and curly Oh private?
Speaker 4 (00:34):
What?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Oh this is private? Oh it is? Yeah. Oh that's stupid,
but not something that would make you die. Not anthrax.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Iranian officials say the US military strikes the overnight sent
shrapnel and projectiles into the perimeter of one of their
nuclear power plants in southern Iran.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
That's great.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
President Trump flew out a Turkey last night on the
old Air Force one, although the Secret Service apparently were
the ones who told him let's stick with the old plane. Yeah,
so there's that. That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Like,
I don't care who gifts the president a plane. I
don't care if Jesus Christ comes back gives the president
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a plane. I'm still not going to put the president
on it.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Well, it's funny.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
They did say they wanted an American built plane. A
Boeing seven forty seven is an American built plane?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Did I not say that? But I'm not pretty sure.
I said, get me an American plane.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
No, No, I know what I'm saying that. Even the
Katari owned seven forty seven is an American built plane.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
But they they're here nor there. We didn't have our
hands on it.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Last my GMC truck is an American built truck. It
was not built in America. It was built probably in Mexico.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Really, I didn't know what. You can tell him.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Sticker on the door usually tells you where it was. Well,
we should check it out. I also have here's something interesting.
It's way too early to get into this, but Ken
Griffin says he would support Marco Rubio over JD. Vance
in twenty twenty eighty.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Too big deal.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Because look no further than yesterday, where Marco Rubio's clearly
the favorite sun. Right now he's behind the president at NATO,
and he's laughing at the President's jokes.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
He looks relaxed and happy and confident. JD.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Vance looked like a prisoner of war in Milwaukee in
front of a couple of signs with graphs on them
alone at the podium there. Clearly he has been hung
out to dry. He has not performed to Trump's level
of performance.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
There was also an article, I believe it was The
Atlantic magazine this week that republished an essay written by
then Senator JD. Vance ripping into Donald Trump on the
tenure versary of when it was printed the first time.
But this Ken Griffin guy huge huge Republican donor to
the tune of more than a one hundred million dollars
(03:08):
just a couple of years ago. Speaking of politics, Graham
Platner is officially out.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
We knew this was going to happen.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
We are suspending campaign operations. This is incredibly difficult because
I know that some will think it's an admission of guilt,
and it most certainly is not. We're not doing it
because of the allegations. We're doing it because of the
structures that are being taken away from us by those
in powers. Yeah. What it's not the false allegations, though,
that have brought us to where we are.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
It is.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
It's the fact that they are being used by the political.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Establishment establishment bad.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
Gas to put structural pressure on us.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
And don't drop out well, if you believe that you
are God's answer to Democrats in the state of Maine,
don't drop out well.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
I was reading an article this morning, I believe it
was in the Wall Street Journal of about his entire
ascension to be the candidate and how he was basically
picked by two strategists who are in their twenties and
they're the grassroots socialist strategists, and they're.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Have you seen the interview with those two more.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Ons now, But I'd love to listen to it because
because here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
This is a.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Faction of the Democratic Party and you alluded to it
yesterday that has done really well in this primary season,
and it's the Bernie Sanders Socialists. And there's this whole
grassroots people who are anti establishment, anti Democratic establishment, anti DNC,
anti as they say, anti candidate, who have grown, who
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have been grown in a Petri dish or I forget
how they put it, lab grown candidates and they have
gotten a degree of support and weight and money in
this cycle and maybe learn their lesson with this guy
who was picked out of obscurity. And the article this
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morning said that the red flag was there from the
beginning that Two years ago, there was a Facebook post
that was circulating in Maine, which is the size of
half a burbank, that said, this guy is a bad dude. Women, beware,
I dated this guy. He's a bad person. Be careful
because that is a whole that is a whole thing
(05:28):
on Facebook and social media where women out bad guys
rape adjacent guys. Right, and he was well known as
being this guy that was outed on social media, but
they still went with him.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
This has a whiff of moneyball. You remember, of course
the great book The Turn into a great movie Brad
Pitt and Philip Seymour Hoffman and Chris.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Evans, among others.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Anyway, Chris Pratt, sorry, this feels like they're trying to
money ball these politicians, right, pick them out of obscurity,
but prove their effectiveness by in this case, trying to
make him an everyman kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
That's an excellent, excellent comparison.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
When we come back, I do want to play for
you the interview that I saw with these two people
who supposedly vetted Graham Platiner, and your point of their
argument was, we did everybody's tired of a lab grown politician.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yeah, And it's interesting the way you put that with Moneyball,
because that's exactly what it is. It's not the big
names that this team is looking for. It's the guys
with the slugging percentage. It's the guys that do well
because they're outsiders. You look at pictures of Graham Platner,
he looks like the guy in the sweatshirt on the
floor of the Capitol who has the stutter with the strokes. Sorry,
(06:52):
but you know what I mean. He's the political outsider.
He's the anti Washington elite to use.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
The Moneyball rubber. He's the scout had a yes, So
we'll talk about that.
Speaker 6 (07:04):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Savannah Guthrie was absent from the Today's Show. It is
not connected to her mother's disappearance.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Sometimes she has days off.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
She's like when you get a day off and everybody's like,
she must.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Have been suspended for that thing.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
I know, and everybody's like, it's not because of that thing,
not this time.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
If I was suspended, we would milk that so much.
You would never forget that I was suspended, right Like,
we would really drive that thing into the ground. Yeah,
Matt would exploit that that would be nobody's business, but
he would be.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
He would understand the value of it. I've gotten away
with so much.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
I don't know what it would take for me to
get to suspended point.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
You were mentioning that yesterday, yesterday, day before yesterday to
somebody like the things that you have been able to
say on the air, and no one has suspended, no one.
We were talking about the ouster of Graham Plattner, who
was going to be the Democratic nominee to take on
Susan Collins for her seat in Maine's Senate bid, and
(08:14):
I referenced the connection potentially to the way we're picking
these candidates as similar to the way Billy Bean tried
to put together the Oakland A's. As part of Moneyball,
people are overlooked for a variety of biased reasons and
perceived flaws age, appearance, personality.
Speaker 7 (08:34):
Bill James and Mathmags cut straight through that.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Billy, of the twenty thousand notable players for us to consider,
I believe that there's a championship team of twenty five
people that we could afford because.
Speaker 7 (08:49):
Everyone else in baseball undervalue them like an Island of
Misfit Toys.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
And of course Joonah Hill from the great movie. I
love that fantastic, I love that. So the two people, well,
this is an interview that I saw. I believe it's
with the Wall Street Journal. Daniel Moraf and Leanne Fan
reportedly were the ones progressive activists who chose Graham Plattner.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
There was another one with the last name Cats. That
one I don't know about, Morris Katz.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
He was the one who was the Mom Donnie advisor
and he's twenty seven or something like that.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
But anyway, go on.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
In this case, in this interview, the questioner or the
reporters asking, so how did you choose Graham Plattner and
what kind of a background information? What kind of vetting
did you do on somebody like Graham Plattner? And they said, well,
we paid a vetting firm, We paid for a background
check on this guy.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Got some stuff back, some of what you've seen on
the news, We got that other stuff we did ant.
Speaker 7 (09:50):
Did the vetting process turn up the tattoo that became
so controversial.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Now, okay, just right, just right there, the guy has
a Nazi affiliated tattoo on his chest and a background
check of him, which includes interviews with friends and family,
and that's why things doesn't reveal the fact that he's
got a Nazi tattoo on his chest.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
This guy that I was talking about.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Progressive strategist Morris Katz told The New Yorker last September
that the process in which he decided Platner was qualified
to run for US Senate required less time than drinking
a cup of coffee.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Here's his quote.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Within a few minutes of talking to him, I was like,
this guy owes it to the country to run for Senate.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Yeah, despite the fact that, again that background check showed
some some of the Reddit posts that he had made
over the series of years. He called himself a communist.
He wrote that all cops are bastards. He said that
rural white Americans are racist and stupid. He talked about
political violence, said that there is a need for armed resistance.
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In a discussion about anti rape underwear, he wrote that
people worried about assault might want to start taking some
responsibility for themselves and not get so fed up they
wind up having sex with someone they don't mean to.
All things which listen, the guy has every right in
this country to say whatever he wants on Reddit.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
But that's you want to ride the kind of guy now?
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Now.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
When asked specifically about okay, so you knew that at
least some of this stuff showed up in the vetting process,
why did why did you choose this guy?
Speaker 4 (11:31):
I said, none of this will or should stop him
from becoming a US senator?
Speaker 2 (11:35):
And what was the thinking there?
Speaker 4 (11:37):
I think if what the voters wanted were people who
were grown in bats and had never done or said
anything that they might regret their entire lives, we'd have
a very different country. Part of our thesis here is
that people do not want their candidates grown in bats.
They want people who are real human beings, and they
want people who do not look and sound like the
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background people who've been leading this country off a cliff
for last.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Center, Your face is perfect, Your face is perfect. The
reaction to that should be who the hell is this
guy is and why is he choosing by It's unbelievable.
His name is Dan moraf He and the interview that
(12:26):
I've seen he's sitting next to a woman name Leanne.
They said like instead of lab grown, specifically, he used
the term people do not want their candidates grown in fact.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
You know, it's funny.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
I'm looking up this guy, Morris Katz, the other one
that wasn't in the interview, that was known for working
with Mom Donnie and choosing Platiner. He was the deputy
media consultant for Fetterman's Senate election campaign.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Again, now listen, are they trying to replicate what they
did with John Fetterman, Because when they got John Fetterman,
they got a pretty mode candidate. And you know, he's
one who has talked about I don't know if he
ever would, but he's talked about dumping the Democrat Party
and joining Republicans because he is so un what's the
(13:13):
word unswayed, perhaps by their push to the left with
the Democratic Socialists that have have taken over parts of
that party.
Speaker 6 (13:20):
Yeah, so you're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand
from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Graham.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Plattner was really pissed off and his team told him
to focus on gratitude in his farewell message.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Yeah, I get that. That's not what he did. Then
what is he going to do for the future become
just not going to be?
Speaker 3 (13:48):
I mean asked, Well, that's also one of those arguable things.
Eric Swalwell, What is Eric Swalwell going to do in
the future. He's going to be some sort of a
political consultant to somebody.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
It's it doesn't know.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
So the point now, with what's going on in Maine again,
Grand Platner out.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
He has decided that he's going to drop out.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
I don't know if he's officially filed the paperwork to
drop out, but he has to do it before Monday,
so that the party or the party gets to choose
how they replace him on the ticket. And at this
point they have not settled on anything, but it looks
like the most likely scenario is they bring together a
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group of Democratic delegates from around the state, somewhere between
five and six hundred people, and have them choose, as
opposed to running an entire primary campaign again and letting
the voters choose.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
So it is a wide open and unpredictable nomination process.
They say that, like you said, it will come down
roughly six hundred people, five hundred of whom have not
been chosen yet.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Listen, that just seems like a lot to be able
to throw because they don't have to choose that person.
I think until the twenty seventh, so they've got a
couple of weeks to do that.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Maine Democrats did approve a tentative plan to hold a
nominating convention before the July twenty seventh deadline. That would
include roughly six hundred delegates made up of primarily local
party officials from around the state. And again, the reason
we're spending so much time on this is that main
seat is key to whose control the Senate. Yeah, it's
(15:30):
a big deal for everyone outside of Maine.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Well, that and the whole Mitch McConnell thing in Kentucky,
same deal. In terms of that, these two seats right
now are the most important when it comes to control
of the Senate.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
We don't know when the nominating convention will be. Timing
details have not been released by the main Democratic Party,
but each county party committee is expected to caucus prior
to the state nominating convention to elect the five hundred
convention delegates, with the remaining one hundred being state committee members.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
What mess or.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
They just do what happened when Joe Biden said he
was going to drop out of the race, and they
just picked somebody, which is very undemocratic. Despite the fact
that they've said they want to make it democratic. Grant
Platner even suggested that whatever happens should be decided upon
by the people.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
My name might be on the ballot right now, but
that ballot line belongs to the people of Maine, and
on November three, it needs to belong to the people
of Maine, and the next Democratic Senator for Maine needs
to belong to the people of Maine. They need to
reflect the will and the values of the people of
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this state.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
I'm a man of the I will not take you know,
for an answer cycle in the background.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Let's see.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Yeah, I mean, this is a guy and a campaign
that hates the establishment Democratic Party in Maine. They've been
trying to influence the nomination process. They have criticized openly
the state party. There could be a debate too, we
(17:14):
don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
It would be interesting. Yeah, all right, Oh, we have
a good terror in the guys to get to Oh
I love a terror in this. I mean it's not good.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
It's not a funny thing where like big Lady gets
in a fight with small man or anything like that.
But it is an interesting story. Gary and Shannon willkin. Oh,
let me play this real quick because I wanted to
point something out.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Hey, Gary and Shannon, it's Jeff, and you know, I know.
Speaker 7 (17:37):
You're both, Hey, Jeff, sports fans and sports historians. And
actually Shannon literally works in professional sports media, and I
guess Gary does too.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
No, I don't.
Speaker 7 (17:49):
Moneyball was published four years after the A's won their
last World Series title, So I don't know how qualified
Moneyball is for success.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Well, it.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Is a strategy of how to put a team together
when you don't have money, and.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
What's your definition.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
It is a strategy of exactly what is your definition
of success? Who do you think a winner is? You
can look at Mike Trout and say that is a winner.
But you can also look at a guy with a
great slugging percentage in trip LA that doesn't have the
name or the prestige or the looks or the personality
or anything like that. And if you crunch the numbers,
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you can get the obscure guy to get you production
at the plate that would do as much for you
as a home run hitter would do. Like, it's a
whole strategy of how to win games when you don't
have money, and when you're in a grassroots political organization
and you don't have money.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
You have to find the John.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Fetterman's, the Mom Donnie, the these guys that are not
the establishment, purebreads and the.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
A's did go to the playoffs. They did.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
They won like one hundred and three games. I did
that season, So it's not like they it's not like
they fail. And they built up their farm system. They
had a good few years. Wow, really really contenders for
a long time.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
But I think that's the first time we've been called historians,
and I like it. I shall wear that mantle. I
like it.
Speaker 6 (19:27):
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Top of the hour. We're going to talk about this.
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the economy locally when we come back.
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Speaker 3 (20:07):
Dodgers, by the way, did book a date with the President.
They have officially put on the calendar a date to
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the White House July twenty third, during an off day,
so two weeks from today. Between the two weeks, they
have an off day between a three game series against
the Phillies and then a three game set with the
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Mets as part of their trip along the East Coast.
So July twenty third, Dave Roberts and the crew will
be there at the White House.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
We'll get into the stench problem and Boyle Heights after
the top of the hour, but first it's time for
Terror in the Sky?
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Is day off?
Speaker 5 (20:47):
Roger?
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Get off my plane, Roger Rogers, what's our Victor?
Speaker 5 (20:51):
Victor?
Speaker 2 (20:54):
I have had with these muffy pint and strikes on
this money.
Speaker 6 (20:59):
It's Gary and Shannon's Terror in the Skies on KFI.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Uh oh there's a death. Yeah, oh s very weird.
Tell me more.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
An Argentinian flight instructor jumped out of a plane.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Even after that big win over Egypt. Huh. I don't
think he was paying that much attention to how could
you not? How could you not?
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Well, maybe this is why. If he's not paying attention,
he would have felt.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Maybe he was on the team and got cut before
a world cut.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
I doubt it that's possible.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Leandro Bertazzo was identified as the instructor who bailed out
of a Sessina one point fifty over the central Argentinian
town of Toledo back on the fourth of July. Here's
the thing. He was teaching a young pilot how to fly.
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When he turned.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
To her, the student becomes the master.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
And said, you know what you have to do? Carry on.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Well, that's a really good teacher.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
I mean when you just throw your student into the
you could have you.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Have fallen asleep or something, but this is Leandro then
unbuckled from his seat, removed his headset, opened the plane
door and jumped out.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Now Rosario.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Was the student, and Rosario had to call ahead, alert
the officials at the Flying Parrot flight school that of
what had just happened, and then was guided through emergency
protocols to land safely. The flight Flying Parrot director did
say she was very clear, decisive, mature and professional. She
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was shaken, but she piloted that plane to the airfield
and landed perfectly, maintained a very high level of training professionalism.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
You know, there's a level of scrutiny, a high level
of scrutiny that professional commercial pilots have to go through.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
They don't report.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Things like mental illness and things like that often because
you are grounded for good cause. Right, Well, that's what
this guy was going through. His father did an interview
with a local paper that said, just a week before
this incident, he went to a consult at a psychiatric hospital.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Yeah, and it was only his close family that knew it.
He had been suffering mentally, they said, according to family,
and did try to check himself into a clinic for
mental health.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
See this happened before the soccer game. Yeah, so if
he had seen that win, I bet things would have changed. No, No,
probably not probably, I don't know, I don't know. It
really unites the people. It gets people going when you
have a win like that come from behind.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
All of the people that were close to him, that
were working at the Flying Parrot flight school. It still
strikes me as a funny name for a flight school.
There's a very close student instructor relationship in a professional sense.
But none of those who flew with him nor those
of us who saw him could detect that he was
going to make that decision to jump out of an aircraft.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Obviously something was up. Now, it's also.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Awful that he did it on a flight lesson, but
I guess that way he could make sure that the
plane was going to land safely, that she apparently had
enough lessons under her belt that she could put it
down as opposed to just taking it up on your own.
You jump out of the plane and it has ability
to kill other people when the plane crashes.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Yeah, but isn't there something There's an argument that has
been made about how selfish suicide can be because of
the impact it has on other people. Yeah, and that's
even just when you do it yourself alone. Somewhere this
you did. You didn't call her to cause your death,
but you've now this. This woman is never going to
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be the same, and is she ever going to fly again?
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Maybe she'll be stronger because of it.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
They did say, this is very difficult to do, the
idea of opening an airplane's doors mid flight, a small
plane like that still doing about one hundred and twenty
five miles an hour or they they compared it to
trying to open your car door when you're driving it
about one hundred and twenty.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
I think if you and I were up in a
plane and you jumped out, I'd be fine. Oh how
am I doing on suspension?
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Am I am?
Speaker 1 (25:32):
I making a good case for it with all this
anti suicide stuff.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
He wouldn't have done it if he saw the soccer game?
Does that get me anywhere up the suspension ladder? They're
just hated by everybody.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
The studio crisis that we're seeing as a result of
our turn down in production, we'll do that.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
The bad smell. I want to talk about the bad smell.
I'll also get to that.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
I don't know why we're not, Matt, Why are we
not doing our show from boil Heights.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
We should be entrenched in the story. I smell funny
enough already it does.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Have you noticed that there's a little bit of a
weird smell going on?
Speaker 2 (26:09):
And I'm hoping it's chemicals. This is KFI. You've been
listening to the Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
And then it says private.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Oh, someone's getting pictures.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Be anthrax, Please be anthracked. Why would they say private?
If just in case it's in there? Careful you get
a short and curly Oh private?
Speaker 4 (00:34):
What?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Oh this is private? Oh it is? Yeah. Oh that's stupid,
but not something that would make you die. Not anthrax.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Iranian officials say the US military strikes the overnight sent
shrapnel and projectiles into the perimeter of one of their
nuclear power plants in southern Iran.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
That's great.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
President Trump flew out a Turkey last night on the
old Air Force one, although the Secret Service apparently were
the ones who told him let's stick with the old plane. Yeah,
so there's that. That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Like,
I don't care who gifts the president a plane. I
don't care if Jesus Christ comes back gives the president
(01:25):
a plane. I'm still not going to put the president
on it.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Well, it's funny.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
They did say they wanted an American built plane. A
Boeing seven forty seven is an American built plane?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Did I not say that? But I'm not pretty sure.
I said, get me an American plane.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
No, No, I know what I'm saying that. Even the
Katari owned seven forty seven is an American built plane.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
But they they're here nor there. We didn't have our
hands on it.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Last my GMC truck is an American built truck. It
was not built in America. It was built probably in Mexico.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Really, I didn't know what. You can tell him.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Sticker on the door usually tells you where it was. Well,
we should check it out. I also have here's something interesting.
It's way too early to get into this, but Ken
Griffin says he would support Marco Rubio over JD. Vance
in twenty twenty eighty.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Too big deal.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Because look no further than yesterday, where Marco Rubio's clearly
the favorite sun. Right now he's behind the president at NATO,
and he's laughing at the President's jokes.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
He looks relaxed and happy and confident. JD.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Vance looked like a prisoner of war in Milwaukee in
front of a couple of signs with graphs on them
alone at the podium there. Clearly he has been hung
out to dry. He has not performed to Trump's level
of performance.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
There was also an article, I believe it was The
Atlantic magazine this week that republished an essay written by
then Senator JD. Vance ripping into Donald Trump on the
tenure versary of when it was printed the first time.
But this Ken Griffin guy huge huge Republican donor to
the tune of more than a one hundred million dollars
(03:08):
just a couple of years ago. Speaking of politics, Graham
Platner is officially out.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
We knew this was going to happen.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
We are suspending campaign operations. This is incredibly difficult because
I know that some will think it's an admission of guilt,
and it most certainly is not. We're not doing it
because of the allegations. We're doing it because of the
structures that are being taken away from us by those
in powers. Yeah. What it's not the false allegations, though,
that have brought us to where we are.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
It is.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
It's the fact that they are being used by the political.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Establishment establishment bad.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
Gas to put structural pressure on us.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
And don't drop out well, if you believe that you
are God's answer to Democrats in the state of Maine,
don't drop out well.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
I was reading an article this morning, I believe it
was in the Wall Street Journal of about his entire
ascension to be the candidate and how he was basically
picked by two strategists who are in their twenties and
they're the grassroots socialist strategists, and they're.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Have you seen the interview with those two more.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Ons now, But I'd love to listen to it because
because here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
This is a.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Faction of the Democratic Party and you alluded to it
yesterday that has done really well in this primary season,
and it's the Bernie Sanders Socialists. And there's this whole
grassroots people who are anti establishment, anti Democratic establishment, anti DNC,
anti as they say, anti candidate, who have grown, who
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have been grown in a Petri dish or I forget
how they put it, lab grown candidates and they have
gotten a degree of support and weight and money in
this cycle and maybe learn their lesson with this guy
who was picked out of obscurity. And the article this
(05:06):
morning said that the red flag was there from the
beginning that Two years ago, there was a Facebook post
that was circulating in Maine, which is the size of
half a burbank, that said, this guy is a bad dude. Women, beware,
I dated this guy. He's a bad person. Be careful
because that is a whole that is a whole thing
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on Facebook and social media where women out bad guys
rape adjacent guys. Right, and he was well known as
being this guy that was outed on social media, but
they still went with him.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
This has a whiff of moneyball. You remember, of course
the great book The Turn into a great movie Brad
Pitt and Philip Seymour Hoffman and Chris.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Evans, among others.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Anyway, Chris Pratt, sorry, this feels like they're trying to
money ball these politicians, right, pick them out of obscurity,
but prove their effectiveness by in this case, trying to
make him an everyman kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
That's an excellent, excellent comparison.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
When we come back, I do want to play for
you the interview that I saw with these two people
who supposedly vetted Graham Platiner, and your point of their
argument was, we did everybody's tired of a lab grown politician.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yeah, And it's interesting the way you put that with Moneyball,
because that's exactly what it is. It's not the big
names that this team is looking for. It's the guys
with the slugging percentage. It's the guys that do well
because they're outsiders. You look at pictures of Graham Platner,
he looks like the guy in the sweatshirt on the
floor of the Capitol who has the stutter with the strokes. Sorry,
(06:52):
but you know what I mean. He's the political outsider.
He's the anti Washington elite to use.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
The Moneyball rubber. He's the scout had a yes, So
we'll talk about that.
Speaker 6 (07:04):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Savannah Guthrie was absent from the Today's Show. It is
not connected to her mother's disappearance.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Sometimes she has days off.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
She's like when you get a day off and everybody's like,
she must.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Have been suspended for that thing.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
I know, and everybody's like, it's not because of that thing,
not this time.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
If I was suspended, we would milk that so much.
You would never forget that I was suspended, right Like,
we would really drive that thing into the ground. Yeah,
Matt would exploit that that would be nobody's business, but
he would be.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
He would understand the value of it. I've gotten away
with so much.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
I don't know what it would take for me to
get to suspended point.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
You were mentioning that yesterday, yesterday, day before yesterday to
somebody like the things that you have been able to
say on the air, and no one has suspended, no one.
We were talking about the ouster of Graham Plattner, who
was going to be the Democratic nominee to take on
Susan Collins for her seat in Maine's Senate bid, and
(08:14):
I referenced the connection potentially to the way we're picking
these candidates as similar to the way Billy Bean tried
to put together the Oakland A's. As part of Moneyball,
people are overlooked for a variety of biased reasons and
perceived flaws age, appearance, personality.
Speaker 7 (08:34):
Bill James and Mathmags cut straight through that.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Billy, of the twenty thousand notable players for us to consider,
I believe that there's a championship team of twenty five
people that we could afford because.
Speaker 7 (08:49):
Everyone else in baseball undervalue them like an Island of
Misfit Toys.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
And of course Joonah Hill from the great movie. I
love that fantastic, I love that. So the two people, well,
this is an interview that I saw. I believe it's
with the Wall Street Journal. Daniel Moraf and Leanne Fan
reportedly were the ones progressive activists who chose Graham Plattner.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
There was another one with the last name Cats. That
one I don't know about, Morris Katz.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
He was the one who was the Mom Donnie advisor
and he's twenty seven or something like that.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
But anyway, go on.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
In this case, in this interview, the questioner or the
reporters asking, so how did you choose Graham Plattner and
what kind of a background information? What kind of vetting
did you do on somebody like Graham Plattner? And they said, well,
we paid a vetting firm, We paid for a background
check on this guy.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Got some stuff back, some of what you've seen on
the news, We got that other stuff we did ant.
Speaker 7 (09:50):
Did the vetting process turn up the tattoo that became
so controversial.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Now, okay, just right, just right there, the guy has
a Nazi affiliated tattoo on his chest and a background
check of him, which includes interviews with friends and family,
and that's why things doesn't reveal the fact that he's
got a Nazi tattoo on his chest.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
This guy that I was talking about.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Progressive strategist Morris Katz told The New Yorker last September
that the process in which he decided Platner was qualified
to run for US Senate required less time than drinking
a cup of coffee.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Here's his quote.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Within a few minutes of talking to him, I was like,
this guy owes it to the country to run for Senate.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Yeah, despite the fact that, again that background check showed
some some of the Reddit posts that he had made
over the series of years. He called himself a communist.
He wrote that all cops are bastards. He said that
rural white Americans are racist and stupid. He talked about
political violence, said that there is a need for armed resistance.
(10:55):
In a discussion about anti rape underwear, he wrote that
people worried about assault might want to start taking some
responsibility for themselves and not get so fed up they
wind up having sex with someone they don't mean to.
All things which listen, the guy has every right in
this country to say whatever he wants on Reddit.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
But that's you want to ride the kind of guy now?
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Now.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
When asked specifically about okay, so you knew that at
least some of this stuff showed up in the vetting process,
why did why did you choose this guy?
Speaker 4 (11:31):
I said, none of this will or should stop him
from becoming a US senator?
Speaker 2 (11:35):
And what was the thinking there?
Speaker 4 (11:37):
I think if what the voters wanted were people who
were grown in bats and had never done or said
anything that they might regret their entire lives, we'd have
a very different country. Part of our thesis here is
that people do not want their candidates grown in bats.
They want people who are real human beings, and they
want people who do not look and sound like the
(12:00):
background people who've been leading this country off a cliff
for last.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Center, Your face is perfect, Your face is perfect. The
reaction to that should be who the hell is this
guy is and why is he choosing by It's unbelievable.
His name is Dan moraf He and the interview that
(12:26):
I've seen he's sitting next to a woman name Leanne.
They said like instead of lab grown, specifically, he used
the term people do not want their candidates grown in fact.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
You know, it's funny.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
I'm looking up this guy, Morris Katz, the other one
that wasn't in the interview, that was known for working
with Mom Donnie and choosing Platiner. He was the deputy
media consultant for Fetterman's Senate election campaign.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Again, now listen, are they trying to replicate what they
did with John Fetterman, Because when they got John Fetterman,
they got a pretty mode candidate. And you know, he's
one who has talked about I don't know if he
ever would, but he's talked about dumping the Democrat Party
and joining Republicans because he is so un what's the
(13:13):
word unswayed, perhaps by their push to the left with
the Democratic Socialists that have have taken over parts of
that party.
Speaker 6 (13:20):
Yeah, so you're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand
from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Graham.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Plattner was really pissed off and his team told him
to focus on gratitude in his farewell message.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Yeah, I get that. That's not what he did. Then
what is he going to do for the future become
just not going to be?
Speaker 3 (13:48):
I mean asked, Well, that's also one of those arguable things.
Eric Swalwell, What is Eric Swalwell going to do in
the future. He's going to be some sort of a
political consultant to somebody.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
It's it doesn't know.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
So the point now, with what's going on in Maine again,
Grand Platner out.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
He has decided that he's going to drop out.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
I don't know if he's officially filed the paperwork to
drop out, but he has to do it before Monday,
so that the party or the party gets to choose
how they replace him on the ticket. And at this
point they have not settled on anything, but it looks
like the most likely scenario is they bring together a
(14:28):
group of Democratic delegates from around the state, somewhere between
five and six hundred people, and have them choose, as
opposed to running an entire primary campaign again and letting
the voters choose.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
So it is a wide open and unpredictable nomination process.
They say that, like you said, it will come down
roughly six hundred people, five hundred of whom have not
been chosen yet.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Listen, that just seems like a lot to be able
to throw because they don't have to choose that person.
I think until the twenty seventh, so they've got a
couple of weeks to do that.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Maine Democrats did approve a tentative plan to hold a
nominating convention before the July twenty seventh deadline. That would
include roughly six hundred delegates made up of primarily local
party officials from around the state. And again, the reason
we're spending so much time on this is that main
seat is key to whose control the Senate. Yeah, it's
(15:30):
a big deal for everyone outside of Maine.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Well, that and the whole Mitch McConnell thing in Kentucky,
same deal. In terms of that, these two seats right
now are the most important when it comes to control
of the Senate.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
We don't know when the nominating convention will be. Timing
details have not been released by the main Democratic Party,
but each county party committee is expected to caucus prior
to the state nominating convention to elect the five hundred
convention delegates, with the remaining one hundred being state committee members.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
What mess or.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
They just do what happened when Joe Biden said he
was going to drop out of the race, and they
just picked somebody, which is very undemocratic. Despite the fact
that they've said they want to make it democratic. Grant
Platner even suggested that whatever happens should be decided upon
by the people.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
My name might be on the ballot right now, but
that ballot line belongs to the people of Maine, and
on November three, it needs to belong to the people
of Maine, and the next Democratic Senator for Maine needs
to belong to the people of Maine. They need to
reflect the will and the values of the people of
(16:45):
this state.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
I'm a man of the I will not take you know,
for an answer cycle in the background.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Let's see.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Yeah, I mean, this is a guy and a campaign
that hates the establishment Democratic Party in Maine. They've been
trying to influence the nomination process. They have criticized openly
the state party. There could be a debate too, we
(17:14):
don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
It would be interesting. Yeah, all right, Oh, we have
a good terror in the guys to get to Oh
I love a terror in this. I mean it's not good.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
It's not a funny thing where like big Lady gets
in a fight with small man or anything like that.
But it is an interesting story. Gary and Shannon willkin. Oh,
let me play this real quick because I wanted to
point something out.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Hey, Gary and Shannon, it's Jeff, and you know, I know.
Speaker 7 (17:37):
You're both, Hey, Jeff, sports fans and sports historians. And
actually Shannon literally works in professional sports media, and I
guess Gary does too.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
No, I don't.
Speaker 7 (17:49):
Moneyball was published four years after the A's won their
last World Series title, So I don't know how qualified
Moneyball is for success.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Well, it.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Is a strategy of how to put a team together
when you don't have money, and.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
What's your definition.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
It is a strategy of exactly what is your definition
of success? Who do you think a winner is? You
can look at Mike Trout and say that is a winner.
But you can also look at a guy with a
great slugging percentage in trip LA that doesn't have the
name or the prestige or the looks or the personality
or anything like that. And if you crunch the numbers,
(18:36):
you can get the obscure guy to get you production
at the plate that would do as much for you
as a home run hitter would do. Like, it's a
whole strategy of how to win games when you don't
have money, and when you're in a grassroots political organization
and you don't have money.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
You have to find the John.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Fetterman's, the Mom Donnie, the these guys that are not
the establishment, purebreads and the.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
A's did go to the playoffs. They did.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
They won like one hundred and three games. I did
that season, So it's not like they it's not like
they fail. And they built up their farm system. They
had a good few years. Wow, really really contenders for
a long time.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
But I think that's the first time we've been called historians,
and I like it. I shall wear that mantle. I
like it.
Speaker 6 (19:27):
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Speaker 3 (19:34):
Top of the hour. We're going to talk about this.
He's in the Hollywood Reporter. The production slump that we've
seen when it comes to movie and television production is
now hitting real estate. We'll talk about how that's impacting
the economy locally when we come back.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Your official home for Dodger Baseball is AM five seventy
LA Sports. Tomorrow night, you're back to back World champion
Dodgers take on the Diamondbacks.
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First pitch and set.
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Speaker 3 (20:07):
Dodgers, by the way, did book a date with the President.
They have officially put on the calendar a date to
celebrate their second straight World Series title. They will visit
the White House July twenty third, during an off day,
so two weeks from today. Between the two weeks, they
have an off day between a three game series against
the Phillies and then a three game set with the
(20:29):
Mets as part of their trip along the East Coast.
So July twenty third, Dave Roberts and the crew will
be there at the White House.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
We'll get into the stench problem and Boyle Heights after
the top of the hour, but first it's time for
Terror in the Sky?
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Is day off?
Speaker 5 (20:47):
Roger?
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Get off my plane, Roger Rogers, what's our Victor?
Speaker 5 (20:51):
Victor?
Speaker 2 (20:54):
I have had with these muffy pint and strikes on
this money.
Speaker 6 (20:59):
It's Gary and Shannon's Terror in the Skies on KFI.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Uh oh there's a death. Yeah, oh s very weird.
Tell me more.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
An Argentinian flight instructor jumped out of a plane.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Even after that big win over Egypt. Huh. I don't
think he was paying that much attention to how could
you not? How could you not?
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Well, maybe this is why. If he's not paying attention,
he would have felt.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Maybe he was on the team and got cut before
a world cut.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
I doubt it that's possible.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Leandro Bertazzo was identified as the instructor who bailed out
of a Sessina one point fifty over the central Argentinian
town of Toledo back on the fourth of July. Here's
the thing. He was teaching a young pilot how to fly.
(21:58):
When he turned.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
To her, the student becomes the master.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
And said, you know what you have to do? Carry on.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Well, that's a really good teacher.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
I mean when you just throw your student into the
you could have you.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Have fallen asleep or something, but this is Leandro then
unbuckled from his seat, removed his headset, opened the plane
door and jumped out.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Now Rosario.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Was the student, and Rosario had to call ahead, alert
the officials at the Flying Parrot flight school that of
what had just happened, and then was guided through emergency
protocols to land safely. The flight Flying Parrot director did
say she was very clear, decisive, mature and professional. She
(22:53):
was shaken, but she piloted that plane to the airfield
and landed perfectly, maintained a very high level of training professionalism.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
You know, there's a level of scrutiny, a high level
of scrutiny that professional commercial pilots have to go through.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
They don't report.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Things like mental illness and things like that often because
you are grounded for good cause. Right, Well, that's what
this guy was going through. His father did an interview
with a local paper that said, just a week before
this incident, he went to a consult at a psychiatric hospital.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Yeah, and it was only his close family that knew it.
He had been suffering mentally, they said, according to family,
and did try to check himself into a clinic for
mental health.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
See this happened before the soccer game. Yeah, so if
he had seen that win, I bet things would have changed. No, No,
probably not probably, I don't know, I don't know. It
really unites the people. It gets people going when you
have a win like that come from behind.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
All of the people that were close to him, that
were working at the Flying Parrot flight school. It still
strikes me as a funny name for a flight school.
There's a very close student instructor relationship in a professional sense.
But none of those who flew with him nor those
of us who saw him could detect that he was
going to make that decision to jump out of an aircraft.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Obviously something was up. Now, it's also.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Awful that he did it on a flight lesson, but
I guess that way he could make sure that the
plane was going to land safely, that she apparently had
enough lessons under her belt that she could put it
down as opposed to just taking it up on your own.
You jump out of the plane and it has ability
to kill other people when the plane crashes.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Yeah, but isn't there something There's an argument that has
been made about how selfish suicide can be because of
the impact it has on other people. Yeah, and that's
even just when you do it yourself alone. Somewhere this
you did. You didn't call her to cause your death,
but you've now this. This woman is never going to
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be the same, and is she ever going to fly again?
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Maybe she'll be stronger because of it.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
They did say, this is very difficult to do, the
idea of opening an airplane's doors mid flight, a small
plane like that still doing about one hundred and twenty
five miles an hour or they they compared it to
trying to open your car door when you're driving it
about one hundred and twenty.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
I think if you and I were up in a
plane and you jumped out, I'd be fine. Oh how
am I doing on suspension?
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Am I am?
Speaker 1 (25:32):
I making a good case for it with all this
anti suicide stuff.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
He wouldn't have done it if he saw the soccer game?
Does that get me anywhere up the suspension ladder? They're
just hated by everybody.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
The studio crisis that we're seeing as a result of
our turn down in production, we'll do that.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
The bad smell. I want to talk about the bad smell.
I'll also get to that.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
I don't know why we're not, Matt, Why are we
not doing our show from boil Heights.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
We should be entrenched in the story. I smell funny
enough already it does.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Have you noticed that there's a little bit of a
weird smell going on?
Speaker 2 (26:09):
And I'm hoping it's chemicals. This is KFI. You've been
listening to the Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
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