May 13, 2026 • 30 mins
The Gary & Shannon Show Hour 3 (05.13) – the Murdaugh conviction gets overturned, President Trump meets with President Xi amid Iran tensions, and #Parenting spirals into stories about parents trying to get teachers fired and families outraged over $100 sports fees.• #WhatsHappening → President Trump meets with Xi Jinping as tensions with Iran continue complicating trade negotiations
• South Carolina overturns Alex Murdaugh’s murder conviction and orders a new trial
• Plus: California’s governor race continues consolidating around Xavier Becerra while Steve Hilton holds strong Republican support• Also: the drug counselor tied to Matthew Perry’s ketamine overdose faces sentencing, and Conan O'Brien is asked back to host the Oscars again• #SWAMPWATCH → China’s role as Iran’s top oil buyer takes center stage during Trump’s overseas meetings
• Gary & Shannon also break down a bizarre report on President Trump’s Truth Social posting habits, FDA shakeups involving Marty Makary, and FBI Director Kash Patel trading barbs with Congress during a very unserious hearing• Then it’s #Parenting with Justin Worsham → including stories from teachers sharing the wild reasons parents tried getting them fired
• The hour wraps with a debate over growing outrage surrounding $100 fees just to let kids play high school sports
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. Justin Worsham is here. And there's
a surprise about Justin Worsham too that I just saw.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Is it his hair?
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Yes, question Mark? I mean, well, you'll get it when
you see him.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Okay, did he? Is he wearing a wig?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Now?
Speaker 1 (00:26):
I cannot ruin the surprise. I want you to be
genuinely delighted. I am very often genuinely delighted when the
first thing you'll think is can I touch it?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
That is what else is going on? Time for what's happening?
Speaker 4 (00:47):
President Trump greeted by a bunch of Chinese kids, a
military honor guard, and a military band as he got
off Air Force one in Beijing overnight.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
They are they being.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Trump and President She are planning a huge summit. Tomorrow
is when they're going to begin two days. Trump's trimp
was initially delayed so he could help figure out what
was going on between the war or in the war
between the United States and Iran.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
How is China get to come down on this war
or war adjacent conflict that is going on? This is
the world's top crude oil importer, reliant on Middle e
on the Middle East for half of its fuel, obviously
trying to protect its own energy supplies. So this is
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going to be a little bit of a precarious conversation
in terms of how it's going to go. This trip
started to unravel when Trump started pressuring Beijing and other
world leaders to use their military to protect the Strait
of Hormuz. Like, wait a minute, this is your deal.
We're not getting involved in this with the hell you doing.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Add to that that Iran's biggest customer when it comes
to oil is China, so they are they are allies,
and I don't know, you know how this is gonna go.
President Trump was asked yesterday when he was leaving the
United States about whether or not this he was going
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to ask President she to help end the war with Iran.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
This is going to be a very exciting trip.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
A lot of good things are gonna happen.
Speaker 6 (02:27):
I think he needs Sanravene at all with the Irani
I don't think.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
I don't think we need any help with Iran. Well,
one way or the other.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
There were several technology CEOs that are headed there including
Tim Cook from Apple, Chuck Robbins from Cisco, Dina McCormick
from Meta, Elon Mosk obviously from Tesla, and SpaceX. Jensen
Wong apparently got on Air Force one as they stopped
an anchorage overnight to refuel. So a lot of very
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high end business interests are headed over there as well.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
We mentioned inflation numbers no point now, debt reaching a
record hive eighteen point eight trillion in the first three
months of this year, US household debt, mortgages, credit cards,
auto loans, student loans reached this all time high eighteen
point eight trillion. They say this was driven by higher
(03:23):
balances on mortgage and auto loans. People are just not paying.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Down South Carolina Supreme Court has overturned Alex Murdoch's double
murder convictions and life sentence, so they have ordered a
new trial for Alex Murdoch. This latest twist in this
whole thing was all because the court ruled murdaw was
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denied his right to a fair trial when a county clerk,
Rebecca Hills, improperly influenced the jury. According to the court,
in this unanimous to see, Hill placed her fingers on
the scales of justice. They said it was shocking interference
by an officer of the court suggesting to jurors that
(04:08):
they could not trust Murdoch's testimony.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Apparently she was also putting.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Together a book on the case while she was while
she was working it. She has pleaded guilty to a
couple of basically misdemeanors in terms of the things that
she did, and his only serving probation. But he's not
getting out of jail. But they are going to retry
this guy on the murder and the financial crimes cases.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Fresh polls coming out of the governor's race show what
we have predicted that Javier Bssera is the front runner.
Steve Hilton follows. Looks like it's going to come down
to these two when it comes to the November election.
This is kind of what we thought, you know, after
Swalwell's exit, that all the Democratic money, the machine money,
(04:54):
would go behind the safe bed of Bssera. Steve Hilton
was seen as the leader in some pole, but I
think that was after the Swallwell thing was kind of
the everything was kind of settling post his departure. Now
you've got Besarah Atops Hilton and then A distant third
is Tom Steyer.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Yeah, there was also there were other polls as well.
Emerson as one of them is probably the most well known,
but there are a few others that suggested that Steve
Hilton maintains his first place, with Javier Bessera close second,
and then two poles actually both of them affiliated with
Matt mahon's campaign. Have Hilton and Bessarah tied in both
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of those polls.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
At the very very top. Karen Vass.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
There's another poll when it comes out to local, the
local mayor's race, which is kind of hard. It's also
an Emerson College poll, but local polling like this can
be very hard to put a lot of faith behind.
But she is leading the field thirty percent support, followed
by A Proud at twenty two and Nithie Rahman back
(06:02):
at nineteen. Another person sentenced today in the Matthew Perry
death case, a Hawthorne man, Eric Fleming, supposedly was the
link between the high end drug dealer and his personal assistant.
They considered him the drug counselor who was delivering ketamine
vials to Matthew Perry.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Conan O'Brien will return to the OSCARS for a third
year in a row.
Speaker 6 (06:26):
Is that rare to have a three repeat like that?
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Ninety ninth Oscars will air on ABC and Hulu in
March of next year.
Speaker 6 (06:38):
I think it.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
I'm no Oscar historian, other than knowing that Billy Crystal
did it, you know, at least three years as I
was growing up, late eighties.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Early nine, Bob Hope do it for a long time.
Speaker 6 (06:50):
That sounds about it.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
I didn't pay attention until probably until Billy.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
Is it a job that not a lot of people want?
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Well, think of the jokes that they just did at
the can't do you can't do those? Well, I mean
not those jokes, but there comes with it. At least
when Kevin Hart was up to do the Academy Awards
to host them, there was a what we referred to
at the time as a lot of archaeological outrage, where
(07:18):
people were digging up stuff from the from the distant
past right and holding you to account for things that
you said, either in jest or out of context.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
If you had that job, would you do songs and
dances like Billy Crystal did?
Speaker 6 (07:31):
No, you wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Because I don't sing or dance.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
Oh, I think that you do both of those things.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
In my head, well, I'm flattered.
Speaker 6 (07:42):
I think you could.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
That's not my that's not my strong suit. What do
you mean I could do it?
Speaker 1 (07:52):
I think you could be a fun musical I think
you could. I think you could flex that muscle. I
think you could be funny and sing and just like
Billy Crystal was, I think you could do that.
Speaker 6 (08:03):
And I don't think you've tried.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
And that's right, You're exactly right. I have not tried.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
Really, the tragedy of it, the whole thing.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
Is it that true?
Speaker 4 (08:11):
I think the tragedies look like Girl Scout Leader today
and you haven't shared that picture with anybody.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
That's pretty awful. The tragedy is how you look today, Shannon.
Is what you just said, Girls gotta outfit right?
Speaker 5 (08:23):
Well?
Speaker 3 (08:24):
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Speaker 1 (08:33):
We may be giving away some things on our social
media to make sure if you're not on that, uh,
if you're not involved in that, if you're not following us,
maybe now is a good time to do that because
we're going to be giving away some stuff.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
So at Gary and Shannon on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
And the like it's time for swamp. I'm a politician,
which means I'm a cheat and a liar. And when
I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing their lollipops.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Yeah, we got the real problem is that our leaders
are done.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
The other side never quits.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
So what.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
I'm not going anywhere so.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
The squat I can imagine what can be and be
unburdened by.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
What has been.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
You know, Americans have always been gone. They're not stupid.
Speaker 7 (09:18):
A political plunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Why have the people voted for you were not sap
watch they're all cantering.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
President is meeting with President she in China, and there
is a lot that's going to be uh spoken and
unspoken on this trip. China is a huge market when
it comes to energy. Trump loves using these summits to
try to get energy buying agreements. It's not clear how
high energy is on the agenda.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Looking for some leverage here because the United States does
have a booming oil and natural gas output, but China,
as you mentioned, gets half half of its is it
half of its oil from the Middle East?
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Yeah, I think that's the number.
Speaker 6 (10:06):
So the biggest customer you could argue, of the Middle East.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
So it's a tough leverage point to secure for China
to be like, you know what, we will start buying
natural gas and oil from you. I just I don't
think that that is going to be something that is
ironed out here.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
The best, unfortunately, the best I think we could hope for,
is some sort of a trade deal. That was, in
fact what President Trump had said before we got involved
with what was going on in Iran, when this was
originally going to take place, I believe at the end
of or the middle of March, that was what was
going to be on the table, and he was touting
how great a deal he was going to get with
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China when it came to this, when it came to trade.
But if this is the obviously the dominant topic is
going to be the war in Iran.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I played for you before.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
The President says that probably he doesn't need President She's
help in negotiating some sort of an end.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
So we'll see exactly what happens.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
He Trump had a typical day, they say, on Monday,
took questions in the Oval office, met with members of
Indiana's football team. Indiana University, dinner with law enforcement officers
in the Rose Garden, and then, as the Wall Street
Journal writes it up, after the sun went down, another
familiar ritual, late night social media posting. The President's Truth
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social account posted fifty five messages between ten fourteen pm
and one twelve am, fifty five.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
Most of them were just.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Reposts from other accounts claiming the twenty twenty election was stolen,
that Democrats had not been indicted by the Justice Department,
called for the arrest of Barack Obama.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
There is an article in the Wall Street Journal that
points to a specific woman and describes her as the
engine behind these posts. Her name is Natalie Harp, Executive
assistant to the President, said that she brings the president
stacks of printed out social media posts for his approval,
(12:16):
drafts of social media posts for his approval, and then
they often, as you've seen, if you've seen any of
his social books, he just reposts things from other people
many times.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
So then she, after he puts a gold star on
the printed out memes or posts or whatever, she'll go
back and post batches of the Trump approved messages.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
And again, these are people in the White House that
have been talking to the Washington Post. They said the
President does personally sign off on all of the content
that goes up on his account, and while she does
often this, Natalie Harp often does post content on his behalf.
The president also said some of those messages clearly come
from him alone, his own thumbs. She posted the video
(13:08):
supposedly of the cartoon that was Barack and Michelle Obama
uh and the Lion Sleeps Tonight song where they're shown
at the end looking like apes. They also she was
the one who posted that image of Trump as the
doctor Jesus or Jesus.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
I can see him flipping through these, you know, late
at night, being like, oh love ah sign that sign.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
That DT DT DT star Star Star but whatever I mean.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
The cash Betel hearing yesterday, oh yeah, was entertaining, with
him being grilled about his drinking and him firing back
shots like you were the one at that junket down
in those margaritas and running up that seven thousand dollars
bar tab.
Speaker 6 (13:58):
It was so what's the word, It's all very very
popular now un serious, unserious.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
The person that ran up a direct tab.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
In Washington, d C.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
This is all in response to an article that appeared
different stories, but an article specifically that Chris van Holland,
the Senator was referring to, was in The Atlantic that
said that cash Betel had had unannounced absences at work
and as the director of the FBI. Not only is
that not a good thing, I mean in any place
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of work, it would be not a good thing. When
you're the director of the FBI, you could potentially be
someone's hostage. And if you don't show up for work someday,
there's got to be an explanation for it.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
He didn't look good, I mean physically or just the
general He looked dishoveled.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Do you know what's funny they have? He had this
thing about him when I was watching the video yesterday.
I didn't catch it yesterday, but I saw it this
morning when I saw the replay. He's leaning forward on
the desk like this, so his shoulders are kind of
hunched up, so his jacket doesn't fit right. Yeah, But
he's also unbuttoned the top button on his shirt and
(15:25):
loosened his top.
Speaker 6 (15:26):
Yeah, which makes it look like disheveled.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
And then the guy asking him questions has got that
like Irish white guy thing. My whole family has with
like the white hair and the big red nose, clearly
likes his drinks.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
It was just it was so unserious.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
One quick note, Doctor Martin McCay no longer commissioner or
the FDA, according to resignation posts that came out. He
wrote a text to the President to say that he
was a resigning effective yesterday. Did not give a reason
for it. The President was asked about this before this
was announced, and all he said was Marty McCarey's a
great guy.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Coming up next, Justin Worsham, host of the Dad Podcast,
will join us. We'll be talking parenting, including teachers sharing
the concerning reasons parents have tried to get them fired.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I've never done that, You've.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Never done that, but everyone just got real uncomfortable. Gary
Shannon because you've thought about it.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
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Speaker 5 (17:03):
And I remember that.
Speaker 7 (17:03):
Place also having delicious food. In addition, the pizza is
really good and the war winning pizza they made like
an I p A for you guys. Huh, yes, and
they're going to do it. They are, Yes, they are.
That's the only I p A I like.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Oh it is? I mean because you close your eyes
and you think it tastes like us.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
Yeah? Is that weird? Oh really, you know what, Let's
do this again. I'm sorry, guys that make it weird?
Out of the box. Can we just re record this right?
Do this like a podcast.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
I've been stepping in my own feces all day long.
Oh really, welcome to the party.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
Enjoy.
Speaker 7 (17:35):
You know what's concerning about that is the level of
concern on your face, because my perception of you is
that you just kind of like full on just stomp
and like.
Speaker 6 (17:43):
Who do you see? Concern I did? That's not what I.
Speaker 8 (17:47):
Mind.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
Everything's back to normal, everything is.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
Back to okay.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
I love this story because I feel like if I've
heard from my friends that have kids that from time
to time that there is a teacher or an administrator
that is just wrong about something with regard to their child,
and it's pretty obvious that that is the case, and
you kind of scratch your head and you're like, why
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the heck, and you try to figure out where this
teacher this administrator is coming from, and you just want
to bang your head against a wall.
Speaker 7 (18:19):
Yeah, when these articles come out where it's like, we're
trying to get this teacher fired and they have these
silly reasons. The thing I don't like is that, and
maybe it's probably not a popular opinion, is.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
That there are bad teachers. There are bad administrators.
Speaker 7 (18:35):
Like in every profession, there's a small percentage of people
that are very good at it and that are there
for what we would all argue are the right reasons,
and then there's probably a larger percentage that's just there
either going through the motions or doing some kind of
middle of the road, and then there's the smallest percentage
in my experience that are just bad, just.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
A bell curve, and they're just the butt end of
the bell carp.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
I've had to have.
Speaker 7 (18:55):
One email that I sent to a principal, and I
have a son who's going into a senior year in
high school. So that's the longest I've like, so I've
been in around this for eleven years ish right, and
I this lady coming out of the pandemic. My son
went to go ask for extra credit because he was
behind in the math class, and he got emotional and
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she laughed in his face. And I am not worried
about my son and his emotional like sensitivity, but I
told this principle, I'm like, this is not going to
go well with you for other parents that I know
any most of my friends if their teacher laughed in
their kids' face, like this is somebody in their forties
who's looking at somebody who's upset.
Speaker 6 (19:34):
Did she think he was making it up? No, are joking.
Speaker 7 (19:38):
She was smugly like judging his He had made some
poor choices, don't get me wrong. But it was also
in the middle of those hybrid times where they were
mostly in zoom, but then sometimes not right in the
second semester, and I had told him because he was
struggling in the class because he didn't get along with her.
And I said, all these friday office hours that they keep,
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I said, you have to go every Friday, just make
sure that you're understanding the material. And he didn't do that,
and then he was almost failing the class. And so
part of his moral issue was is that she hid
personal notes or hints about her personal life within the test,
like and within the study guides. So if you read
the study guide and memorized things like what's my favorite animal,
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what's my favorite color?
Speaker 3 (20:22):
That?
Speaker 7 (20:22):
And you got that right, that was extra credit. And he,
being my son and I believe right in my personal opinion,
said this has nothing to do with the subject matter.
You are technically testing us about you, and that is
not okay. And he also googled it, and but he
threw it off that it was illegal because he was twelve.
He said, it's illegal.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
You can't tell that's right.
Speaker 7 (20:42):
So all the smartness, right, all the smartness, all the
ambition you want still in a twelve year old boy.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
But that's the only time I've ever there's in here
that people.
Speaker 7 (20:51):
My favorite one that I read was somebody said that
I got to complain because I did not let my
kid participle their kid participate in something when they provided
a doctor's note that said they could not participate in class.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Yep, he respond, and this goes to the snowplow parenting
or the yes, it goes beyond the helicon.
Speaker 7 (21:16):
Everybody wants their kid to have the academic experience that
they think they should have. There's another story in here
that they got upset because they went to an Applebee's
while the teacher was celebrating her birthday and her kids
saw their teacher drinking. They also added that it was
forty five minutes outside of where the school was. At
the bar themselves, Yes they could, they could go drink
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with their kids, but you can't let a teacher drink.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
That is just weird.
Speaker 7 (21:40):
Like that's why, like I could get like, oh, that
sucks because now they see the teacher being a person.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
I guess.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
But why I grew up My mom was a teacher
and an administrator. She was a principal at the elementary
school that I had gone to after life. But we
constantly had teachers in our house are I think if
we did. If our house was the closest house geographically
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to the school, so and other people lived in different
parts of town or other towns even when they would
come in, so it was easy for us to be
the host of Christmas parties or as you know, end
of school year party or whatever. We constantly had teachers
in our house all the time. I got to see
who smoked, I got to see who drank too much wine.
I never thought of it as unusual until I was
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probably in high school and my second grade teacher was
still coming around. I mean, she was nice, and she
was always you know, she had both my sisters and myself,
so she was a friend of the family, and she
was you know, concerned about where we were going to
college and all that sort of stuff. But I never
thought it was weird. I just thought that's what everybody did.
Everybody had their teachers over to their house.
Speaker 7 (22:53):
But don't you think I think all of our parents,
if they got a call from the school saying, you know,
Justin's in trouble, my dad's default was what did you do?
Speaker 5 (23:02):
Like he didn't go the teacher is wrong. He would
start with what did you do.
Speaker 7 (23:06):
But there were three examples in my entire academic career
that it was not on me and it was on
the teacher. And to my dad's credit, like when we
did meet, he was like, no, like, this isn't a thing.
We teach him to challenge authority and you should be
okay with that kind of a situation like that.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
When my son was his fresh sophomore in high school,
I guess it was, and they basically wanted to kick
him out of school for what was just simply a
misunderstanding on many people's parts, including teacher, including administrator. And
for the most part, we thought, you're a dummy for
not making yourself clear. Yeah us, my wife and I
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sang that to our son, but then realizing that as
much as we disagree with the stupid decision you made,
this does not rise to the level of you being
kicked out of a school. So we had to go
on his behalf and fight, I mean to the point
where we're bringing in child psychologists and lawyers, my gosh,
(24:04):
and sitting with principles and I mean, just a super
frustrating exercise, and we were right in the end. I mean,
he's still he had to pay a punishment, which is
totally fine with it.
Speaker 7 (24:15):
You weren't arguing that the punishment just shouldn't be he
couldn't go to school there.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
Yeah right, Yeah, so that was.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
But it's a frustrating thing, especially because you have to
go I have to go in there and go.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
Listen.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
I come from a line of teachers. My family's teachers.
My wife's brother is a teacher. We get it. I
totally understand. You're completely missing the point, right, completely overreaching
in this your idea of what punishment.
Speaker 7 (24:39):
The overall concern is that this seems to be a
growing trend, not only here in the US, but I've
also seen a ton of articles about this in like
the UK and other places. So this is like, this
is a global societal shift that is happening where we
feel that we need to protect our children from the
educators that I think also as a society, we keep
dumping a lot of the responsibility, like you'll take care
of feeding them breakfast. You're going to take care of
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feeding them line, and you're going to hang out with them,
watch them after school.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
You know you're going to be nurturing their emotional health.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
And yeah, may not be the way we want to go.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
How much money do you pay for choir? You really
want to know?
Speaker 3 (25:16):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
There's no reason for jealousy all that which, it's just
hormonally driven, so tough to navigator, no logic.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
You don't even have to navigate.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Let him navigated.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
Listen. I do all right, Number one like it.
Speaker 7 (25:34):
But this is where I come and I have my
little conversations of what goes on with my stupid voices
in my head.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
All right, so I'm allowed. How much does choir costs?
Show show choir specifically? Is cost? Now?
Speaker 7 (25:47):
This is important. Cost is different than because it's all
an ask, it's a donation. So for the advance choir
at my kids high school, it is three thousand, seven
and fifty dollars. Is the individual ask that we ask
of our families. For the inner mediate choir, it is
two thousand and four hundred.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Because you're so closely associated, is it because the school?
The school doesn't offer money for me?
Speaker 7 (26:07):
This is a misunderstanding that the school or state or
federal government contributes anything to our extracurricular programs.
Speaker 6 (26:15):
As far as I know, say two thousand, four hundred dollars.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
And three thousand, seven fifty five year or a year.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Yeah, Jesus, Mary and Joseph.
Speaker 6 (26:25):
Have those kids sing in the shower like.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
The rest of us show choir for the rest twenty
five hundred dollars.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
Yeah, they get a lot of experiences out of it.
It's a great program for the art.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
It sounds lovely, but twenty five hundred it sounds like
a racket. Where does that money go?
Speaker 7 (26:42):
We have we have choreographers, so there's at least six
different choreographers.
Speaker 6 (26:47):
Can't get in there with some choreo.
Speaker 7 (26:49):
No, no, and they're not even getting paid a little
bit row like la, where are you going to find
anybody to do that? We spend We spend tens of
thousands of dollars on costumes for the competitions. We build
sets for their competitions. We have coaches and clinicians. We
have camps like we take up to a three day
camp and now we take the advanced kids go on
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a five day trip.
Speaker 6 (27:11):
Is there a scholarship for kids who can't pay that?
Speaker 7 (27:14):
No, it's an ask like this is this is part
of the issue with this article. Is that so that's
what we ask people to contribute for it. If you
can't afford it, you contribute what you can. But that
is everybody's goal. What we're talking about is that in
this suburb of New Jersey, they're adding a feed, like
a required If your kid is going to play any
sport in middle school, they want you to pay fifty dollars,
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and if your kid is going to play a sport
in high school, they want you to pay one hundred dollars.
And it's a very affluent area in New Jersey, and
the parents are up in arms because they don't understand
why how you can charge.
Speaker 6 (27:45):
Your required fee really reasonable?
Speaker 4 (27:47):
My kid was charged three hundred dollars for volleyball her
senior year. I think it was about three hundred bucks. Okay,
well every year that she played reasonable Well, yes, but
and I think to use the term ask, I think
that's technically what it was. You know, they do the
parents meeting beforehand, and they say three hundred dollars covers
you know, the bag, the sweatshirt at the uniforms, the this,
(28:10):
the that, the and if you can't pay it, we understand.
Was kind of the way it went. Now again, from
a you know, nice neighborhood, that's probably not that difficult.
But the idea that you had, I mean, when we
played high school sports, the whole point of it was
that you didn't have to pay for it.
Speaker 5 (28:30):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
Yeah, you may have worn jersey. I mean, the jerseys
that we wore when I played football had been handed
down for like twelve.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Seeds the amount of sweat other people's sweat I had.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
I had different numbers my home and away jerseys because
they didn't have I.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Was thirteen at home, I was fourteen away.
Speaker 7 (28:48):
Yeah, we had a trailer with helmets that you'd walk
in and they'd put a helmet on your head and
then it whatever shook the.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
Least nothing, And it's not like they washed it.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
They just have been there.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
At the end of football.
Speaker 7 (29:00):
Everybody buys their own helmet, they buy their own shoulder pads,
they buy their own like the pants that you wear
for football, Like I spend at least four hundred bucks
just when my kid played peewee football on the equipment,
which again I don't I don't necessarily have a problem with,
but it's just it's interesting to me kind of like
what we talked about, like people wanting people's teachers to
get fired.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
And then one hundred dollars, one hundred.
Speaker 7 (29:22):
Dollars for the year for you just to say I'm
going to play the sport and you're up in.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Arms about it.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
That's crazy. Five hundred dollars. I'm still stuck on. I'm
not gonna lie.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
You're not even getting into the thirty seven fifty. That's
the advance.
Speaker 8 (29:33):
You can't even hear that, do you know what? Stdian Pancakes,
Thank you, Justin.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
As always, all right, Monks and Merril Show is coming
up next. We'll see it tomorrow as they drive everybody blessing.
This is k You've been listening to things Gary and Shannon.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Is it his hair?
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Yes, question Mark? I mean, well, you'll get it when
you see him.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Okay, did he? Is he wearing a wig?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Now?
Speaker 1 (00:26):
I cannot ruin the surprise. I want you to be
genuinely delighted. I am very often genuinely delighted when the
first thing you'll think is can I touch it?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
That is what else is going on? Time for what's happening?
Speaker 4 (00:47):
President Trump greeted by a bunch of Chinese kids, a
military honor guard, and a military band as he got
off Air Force one in Beijing overnight.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
They are they being.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Trump and President She are planning a huge summit. Tomorrow
is when they're going to begin two days. Trump's trimp
was initially delayed so he could help figure out what
was going on between the war or in the war
between the United States and Iran.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
How is China get to come down on this war
or war adjacent conflict that is going on? This is
the world's top crude oil importer, reliant on Middle e
on the Middle East for half of its fuel, obviously
trying to protect its own energy supplies. So this is
(01:37):
going to be a little bit of a precarious conversation
in terms of how it's going to go. This trip
started to unravel when Trump started pressuring Beijing and other
world leaders to use their military to protect the Strait
of Hormuz. Like, wait a minute, this is your deal.
We're not getting involved in this with the hell you doing.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Add to that that Iran's biggest customer when it comes
to oil is China, so they are they are allies,
and I don't know, you know how this is gonna go.
President Trump was asked yesterday when he was leaving the
United States about whether or not this he was going
(02:19):
to ask President she to help end the war with Iran.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
This is going to be a very exciting trip.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
A lot of good things are gonna happen.
Speaker 6 (02:27):
I think he needs Sanravene at all with the Irani
I don't think.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
I don't think we need any help with Iran. Well,
one way or the other.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
There were several technology CEOs that are headed there including
Tim Cook from Apple, Chuck Robbins from Cisco, Dina McCormick
from Meta, Elon Mosk obviously from Tesla, and SpaceX. Jensen
Wong apparently got on Air Force one as they stopped
an anchorage overnight to refuel. So a lot of very
(02:58):
high end business interests are headed over there as well.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
We mentioned inflation numbers no point now, debt reaching a
record hive eighteen point eight trillion in the first three
months of this year, US household debt, mortgages, credit cards,
auto loans, student loans reached this all time high eighteen
point eight trillion. They say this was driven by higher
(03:23):
balances on mortgage and auto loans. People are just not paying.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Down South Carolina Supreme Court has overturned Alex Murdoch's double
murder convictions and life sentence, so they have ordered a
new trial for Alex Murdoch. This latest twist in this
whole thing was all because the court ruled murdaw was
(03:47):
denied his right to a fair trial when a county clerk,
Rebecca Hills, improperly influenced the jury. According to the court,
in this unanimous to see, Hill placed her fingers on
the scales of justice. They said it was shocking interference
by an officer of the court suggesting to jurors that
(04:08):
they could not trust Murdoch's testimony.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Apparently she was also putting.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Together a book on the case while she was while
she was working it. She has pleaded guilty to a
couple of basically misdemeanors in terms of the things that
she did, and his only serving probation. But he's not
getting out of jail. But they are going to retry
this guy on the murder and the financial crimes cases.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Fresh polls coming out of the governor's race show what
we have predicted that Javier Bssera is the front runner.
Steve Hilton follows. Looks like it's going to come down
to these two when it comes to the November election.
This is kind of what we thought, you know, after
Swalwell's exit, that all the Democratic money, the machine money,
(04:54):
would go behind the safe bed of Bssera. Steve Hilton
was seen as the leader in some pole, but I
think that was after the Swallwell thing was kind of
the everything was kind of settling post his departure. Now
you've got Besarah Atops Hilton and then A distant third
is Tom Steyer.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Yeah, there was also there were other polls as well.
Emerson as one of them is probably the most well known,
but there are a few others that suggested that Steve
Hilton maintains his first place, with Javier Bessera close second,
and then two poles actually both of them affiliated with
Matt mahon's campaign. Have Hilton and Bessarah tied in both
(05:38):
of those polls.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
At the very very top. Karen Vass.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
There's another poll when it comes out to local, the
local mayor's race, which is kind of hard. It's also
an Emerson College poll, but local polling like this can
be very hard to put a lot of faith behind.
But she is leading the field thirty percent support, followed
by A Proud at twenty two and Nithie Rahman back
(06:02):
at nineteen. Another person sentenced today in the Matthew Perry
death case, a Hawthorne man, Eric Fleming, supposedly was the
link between the high end drug dealer and his personal assistant.
They considered him the drug counselor who was delivering ketamine
vials to Matthew Perry.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Conan O'Brien will return to the OSCARS for a third
year in a row.
Speaker 6 (06:26):
Is that rare to have a three repeat like that?
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Ninety ninth Oscars will air on ABC and Hulu in
March of next year.
Speaker 6 (06:38):
I think it.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
I'm no Oscar historian, other than knowing that Billy Crystal
did it, you know, at least three years as I
was growing up, late eighties.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Early nine, Bob Hope do it for a long time.
Speaker 6 (06:50):
That sounds about it.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
I didn't pay attention until probably until Billy.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
Is it a job that not a lot of people want?
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Well, think of the jokes that they just did at
the can't do you can't do those? Well, I mean
not those jokes, but there comes with it. At least
when Kevin Hart was up to do the Academy Awards
to host them, there was a what we referred to
at the time as a lot of archaeological outrage, where
(07:18):
people were digging up stuff from the from the distant
past right and holding you to account for things that
you said, either in jest or out of context.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
If you had that job, would you do songs and
dances like Billy Crystal did?
Speaker 6 (07:31):
No, you wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Because I don't sing or dance.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
Oh, I think that you do both of those things.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
In my head, well, I'm flattered.
Speaker 6 (07:42):
I think you could.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
That's not my that's not my strong suit. What do
you mean I could do it?
Speaker 1 (07:52):
I think you could be a fun musical I think
you could. I think you could flex that muscle. I
think you could be funny and sing and just like
Billy Crystal was, I think you could do that.
Speaker 6 (08:03):
And I don't think you've tried.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
And that's right, You're exactly right. I have not tried.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
Really, the tragedy of it, the whole thing.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
Is it that true?
Speaker 4 (08:11):
I think the tragedies look like Girl Scout Leader today
and you haven't shared that picture with anybody.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
That's pretty awful. The tragedy is how you look today, Shannon.
Is what you just said, Girls gotta outfit right?
Speaker 5 (08:23):
Well?
Speaker 3 (08:24):
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We may be giving away some things on our social
media to make sure if you're not on that, uh,
if you're not involved in that, if you're not following us,
maybe now is a good time to do that because
we're going to be giving away some stuff.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
So at Gary and Shannon on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
And the like it's time for swamp. I'm a politician,
which means I'm a cheat and a liar. And when
I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing their lollipops.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Yeah, we got the real problem is that our leaders
are done.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
The other side never quits.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
So what.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
I'm not going anywhere so.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
The squat I can imagine what can be and be
unburdened by.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
What has been.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
You know, Americans have always been gone. They're not stupid.
Speaker 7 (09:18):
A political plunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Why have the people voted for you were not sap
watch they're all cantering.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
President is meeting with President she in China, and there
is a lot that's going to be uh spoken and
unspoken on this trip. China is a huge market when
it comes to energy. Trump loves using these summits to
try to get energy buying agreements. It's not clear how
high energy is on the agenda.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Looking for some leverage here because the United States does
have a booming oil and natural gas output, but China,
as you mentioned, gets half half of its is it
half of its oil from the Middle East?
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Yeah, I think that's the number.
Speaker 6 (10:06):
So the biggest customer you could argue, of the Middle East.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
So it's a tough leverage point to secure for China
to be like, you know what, we will start buying
natural gas and oil from you. I just I don't
think that that is going to be something that is
ironed out here.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
The best, unfortunately, the best I think we could hope for,
is some sort of a trade deal. That was, in
fact what President Trump had said before we got involved
with what was going on in Iran, when this was
originally going to take place, I believe at the end
of or the middle of March, that was what was
going to be on the table, and he was touting
how great a deal he was going to get with
(10:51):
China when it came to this, when it came to trade.
But if this is the obviously the dominant topic is
going to be the war in Iran.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I played for you before.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
The President says that probably he doesn't need President She's
help in negotiating some sort of an end.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
So we'll see exactly what happens.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
He Trump had a typical day, they say, on Monday,
took questions in the Oval office, met with members of
Indiana's football team. Indiana University, dinner with law enforcement officers
in the Rose Garden, and then, as the Wall Street
Journal writes it up, after the sun went down, another
familiar ritual, late night social media posting. The President's Truth
(11:32):
social account posted fifty five messages between ten fourteen pm
and one twelve am, fifty five.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
Most of them were just.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Reposts from other accounts claiming the twenty twenty election was stolen,
that Democrats had not been indicted by the Justice Department,
called for the arrest of Barack Obama.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
There is an article in the Wall Street Journal that
points to a specific woman and describes her as the
engine behind these posts. Her name is Natalie Harp, Executive
assistant to the President, said that she brings the president
stacks of printed out social media posts for his approval,
(12:16):
drafts of social media posts for his approval, and then
they often, as you've seen, if you've seen any of
his social books, he just reposts things from other people
many times.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
So then she, after he puts a gold star on
the printed out memes or posts or whatever, she'll go
back and post batches of the Trump approved messages.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
And again, these are people in the White House that
have been talking to the Washington Post. They said the
President does personally sign off on all of the content
that goes up on his account, and while she does
often this, Natalie Harp often does post content on his behalf.
The president also said some of those messages clearly come
from him alone, his own thumbs. She posted the video
(13:08):
supposedly of the cartoon that was Barack and Michelle Obama
uh and the Lion Sleeps Tonight song where they're shown
at the end looking like apes. They also she was
the one who posted that image of Trump as the
doctor Jesus or Jesus.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
I can see him flipping through these, you know, late
at night, being like, oh love ah sign that sign.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
That DT DT DT star Star Star but whatever I mean.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
The cash Betel hearing yesterday, oh yeah, was entertaining, with
him being grilled about his drinking and him firing back
shots like you were the one at that junket down
in those margaritas and running up that seven thousand dollars
bar tab.
Speaker 6 (13:58):
It was so what's the word, It's all very very
popular now un serious, unserious.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
The person that ran up a direct tab.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
In Washington, d C.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
This is all in response to an article that appeared
different stories, but an article specifically that Chris van Holland,
the Senator was referring to, was in The Atlantic that
said that cash Betel had had unannounced absences at work
and as the director of the FBI. Not only is
that not a good thing, I mean in any place
(14:41):
of work, it would be not a good thing. When
you're the director of the FBI, you could potentially be
someone's hostage. And if you don't show up for work someday,
there's got to be an explanation for it.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
He didn't look good, I mean physically or just the
general He looked dishoveled.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Do you know what's funny they have? He had this
thing about him when I was watching the video yesterday.
I didn't catch it yesterday, but I saw it this
morning when I saw the replay. He's leaning forward on
the desk like this, so his shoulders are kind of
hunched up, so his jacket doesn't fit right. Yeah, But
he's also unbuttoned the top button on his shirt and
(15:25):
loosened his top.
Speaker 6 (15:26):
Yeah, which makes it look like disheveled.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
And then the guy asking him questions has got that
like Irish white guy thing. My whole family has with
like the white hair and the big red nose, clearly
likes his drinks.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
It was just it was so unserious.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
One quick note, Doctor Martin McCay no longer commissioner or
the FDA, according to resignation posts that came out. He
wrote a text to the President to say that he
was a resigning effective yesterday. Did not give a reason
for it. The President was asked about this before this
was announced, and all he said was Marty McCarey's a
great guy.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Coming up next, Justin Worsham, host of the Dad Podcast,
will join us. We'll be talking parenting, including teachers sharing
the concerning reasons parents have tried to get them fired.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I've never done that, You've.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Never done that, but everyone just got real uncomfortable. Gary
Shannon because you've thought about it.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
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Speaker 5 (17:03):
And I remember that.
Speaker 7 (17:03):
Place also having delicious food. In addition, the pizza is
really good and the war winning pizza they made like
an I p A for you guys. Huh, yes, and
they're going to do it. They are, Yes, they are.
That's the only I p A I like.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Oh it is? I mean because you close your eyes
and you think it tastes like us.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
Yeah? Is that weird? Oh really, you know what, Let's
do this again. I'm sorry, guys that make it weird?
Out of the box. Can we just re record this right?
Do this like a podcast.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
I've been stepping in my own feces all day long.
Oh really, welcome to the party.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
Enjoy.
Speaker 7 (17:35):
You know what's concerning about that is the level of
concern on your face, because my perception of you is
that you just kind of like full on just stomp
and like.
Speaker 6 (17:43):
Who do you see? Concern I did? That's not what I.
Speaker 8 (17:47):
Mind.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
Everything's back to normal, everything is.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
Back to okay.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
I love this story because I feel like if I've
heard from my friends that have kids that from time
to time that there is a teacher or an administrator
that is just wrong about something with regard to their child,
and it's pretty obvious that that is the case, and
you kind of scratch your head and you're like, why
(18:13):
the heck, and you try to figure out where this
teacher this administrator is coming from, and you just want
to bang your head against a wall.
Speaker 7 (18:19):
Yeah, when these articles come out where it's like, we're
trying to get this teacher fired and they have these
silly reasons. The thing I don't like is that, and
maybe it's probably not a popular opinion, is.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
That there are bad teachers. There are bad administrators.
Speaker 7 (18:35):
Like in every profession, there's a small percentage of people
that are very good at it and that are there
for what we would all argue are the right reasons,
and then there's probably a larger percentage that's just there
either going through the motions or doing some kind of
middle of the road, and then there's the smallest percentage
in my experience that are just bad, just.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
A bell curve, and they're just the butt end of
the bell carp.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
I've had to have.
Speaker 7 (18:55):
One email that I sent to a principal, and I
have a son who's going into a senior year in
high school. So that's the longest I've like, so I've
been in around this for eleven years ish right, and
I this lady coming out of the pandemic. My son
went to go ask for extra credit because he was
behind in the math class, and he got emotional and
(19:16):
she laughed in his face. And I am not worried
about my son and his emotional like sensitivity, but I
told this principle, I'm like, this is not going to
go well with you for other parents that I know
any most of my friends if their teacher laughed in
their kids' face, like this is somebody in their forties
who's looking at somebody who's upset.
Speaker 6 (19:34):
Did she think he was making it up? No, are joking.
Speaker 7 (19:38):
She was smugly like judging his He had made some
poor choices, don't get me wrong. But it was also
in the middle of those hybrid times where they were
mostly in zoom, but then sometimes not right in the
second semester, and I had told him because he was
struggling in the class because he didn't get along with her.
And I said, all these friday office hours that they keep,
(19:58):
I said, you have to go every Friday, just make
sure that you're understanding the material. And he didn't do that,
and then he was almost failing the class. And so
part of his moral issue was is that she hid
personal notes or hints about her personal life within the test,
like and within the study guides. So if you read
the study guide and memorized things like what's my favorite animal,
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what's my favorite color?
Speaker 3 (20:22):
That?
Speaker 7 (20:22):
And you got that right, that was extra credit. And he,
being my son and I believe right in my personal opinion,
said this has nothing to do with the subject matter.
You are technically testing us about you, and that is
not okay. And he also googled it, and but he
threw it off that it was illegal because he was twelve.
He said, it's illegal.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
You can't tell that's right.
Speaker 7 (20:42):
So all the smartness, right, all the smartness, all the
ambition you want still in a twelve year old boy.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
But that's the only time I've ever there's in here
that people.
Speaker 7 (20:51):
My favorite one that I read was somebody said that
I got to complain because I did not let my
kid participle their kid participate in something when they provided
a doctor's note that said they could not participate in class.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Yep, he respond, and this goes to the snowplow parenting
or the yes, it goes beyond the helicon.
Speaker 7 (21:16):
Everybody wants their kid to have the academic experience that
they think they should have. There's another story in here
that they got upset because they went to an Applebee's
while the teacher was celebrating her birthday and her kids
saw their teacher drinking. They also added that it was
forty five minutes outside of where the school was. At
the bar themselves, Yes they could, they could go drink
(21:36):
with their kids, but you can't let a teacher drink.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
That is just weird.
Speaker 7 (21:40):
Like that's why, like I could get like, oh, that
sucks because now they see the teacher being a person.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
I guess.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
But why I grew up My mom was a teacher
and an administrator. She was a principal at the elementary
school that I had gone to after life. But we
constantly had teachers in our house are I think if
we did. If our house was the closest house geographically
(22:06):
to the school, so and other people lived in different
parts of town or other towns even when they would
come in, so it was easy for us to be
the host of Christmas parties or as you know, end
of school year party or whatever. We constantly had teachers
in our house all the time. I got to see
who smoked, I got to see who drank too much wine.
I never thought of it as unusual until I was
(22:31):
probably in high school and my second grade teacher was
still coming around. I mean, she was nice, and she
was always you know, she had both my sisters and myself,
so she was a friend of the family, and she
was you know, concerned about where we were going to
college and all that sort of stuff. But I never
thought it was weird. I just thought that's what everybody did.
Everybody had their teachers over to their house.
Speaker 7 (22:53):
But don't you think I think all of our parents,
if they got a call from the school saying, you know,
Justin's in trouble, my dad's default was what did you do?
Speaker 5 (23:02):
Like he didn't go the teacher is wrong. He would
start with what did you do.
Speaker 7 (23:06):
But there were three examples in my entire academic career
that it was not on me and it was on
the teacher. And to my dad's credit, like when we
did meet, he was like, no, like, this isn't a thing.
We teach him to challenge authority and you should be
okay with that kind of a situation like that.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
When my son was his fresh sophomore in high school,
I guess it was, and they basically wanted to kick
him out of school for what was just simply a
misunderstanding on many people's parts, including teacher, including administrator. And
for the most part, we thought, you're a dummy for
not making yourself clear. Yeah us, my wife and I
(23:44):
sang that to our son, but then realizing that as
much as we disagree with the stupid decision you made,
this does not rise to the level of you being
kicked out of a school. So we had to go
on his behalf and fight, I mean to the point
where we're bringing in child psychologists and lawyers, my gosh,
(24:04):
and sitting with principles and I mean, just a super
frustrating exercise, and we were right in the end. I mean,
he's still he had to pay a punishment, which is
totally fine with it.
Speaker 7 (24:15):
You weren't arguing that the punishment just shouldn't be he
couldn't go to school there.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
Yeah right, Yeah, so that was.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
But it's a frustrating thing, especially because you have to
go I have to go in there and go.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
Listen.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
I come from a line of teachers. My family's teachers.
My wife's brother is a teacher. We get it. I
totally understand. You're completely missing the point, right, completely overreaching
in this your idea of what punishment.
Speaker 7 (24:39):
The overall concern is that this seems to be a
growing trend, not only here in the US, but I've
also seen a ton of articles about this in like
the UK and other places. So this is like, this
is a global societal shift that is happening where we
feel that we need to protect our children from the
educators that I think also as a society, we keep
dumping a lot of the responsibility, like you'll take care
of feeding them breakfast. You're going to take care of
(24:59):
feeding them line, and you're going to hang out with them,
watch them after school.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
You know you're going to be nurturing their emotional health.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
And yeah, may not be the way we want to go.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
How much money do you pay for choir? You really
want to know?
Speaker 3 (25:16):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
There's no reason for jealousy all that which, it's just
hormonally driven, so tough to navigator, no logic.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
You don't even have to navigate.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Let him navigated.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
Listen. I do all right, Number one like it.
Speaker 7 (25:34):
But this is where I come and I have my
little conversations of what goes on with my stupid voices
in my head.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
All right, so I'm allowed. How much does choir costs?
Show show choir specifically? Is cost? Now?
Speaker 7 (25:47):
This is important. Cost is different than because it's all
an ask, it's a donation. So for the advance choir
at my kids high school, it is three thousand, seven
and fifty dollars. Is the individual ask that we ask
of our families. For the inner mediate choir, it is
two thousand and four hundred.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Because you're so closely associated, is it because the school?
The school doesn't offer money for me?
Speaker 7 (26:07):
This is a misunderstanding that the school or state or
federal government contributes anything to our extracurricular programs.
Speaker 6 (26:15):
As far as I know, say two thousand, four hundred dollars.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
And three thousand, seven fifty five year or a year.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Yeah, Jesus, Mary and Joseph.
Speaker 6 (26:25):
Have those kids sing in the shower like.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
The rest of us show choir for the rest twenty
five hundred dollars.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
Yeah, they get a lot of experiences out of it.
It's a great program for the art.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
It sounds lovely, but twenty five hundred it sounds like
a racket. Where does that money go?
Speaker 7 (26:42):
We have we have choreographers, so there's at least six
different choreographers.
Speaker 6 (26:47):
Can't get in there with some choreo.
Speaker 7 (26:49):
No, no, and they're not even getting paid a little
bit row like la, where are you going to find
anybody to do that? We spend We spend tens of
thousands of dollars on costumes for the competitions. We build
sets for their competitions. We have coaches and clinicians. We
have camps like we take up to a three day
camp and now we take the advanced kids go on
(27:10):
a five day trip.
Speaker 6 (27:11):
Is there a scholarship for kids who can't pay that?
Speaker 7 (27:14):
No, it's an ask like this is this is part
of the issue with this article. Is that so that's
what we ask people to contribute for it. If you
can't afford it, you contribute what you can. But that
is everybody's goal. What we're talking about is that in
this suburb of New Jersey, they're adding a feed, like
a required If your kid is going to play any
sport in middle school, they want you to pay fifty dollars,
(27:36):
and if your kid is going to play a sport
in high school, they want you to pay one hundred dollars.
And it's a very affluent area in New Jersey, and
the parents are up in arms because they don't understand
why how you can charge.
Speaker 6 (27:45):
Your required fee really reasonable?
Speaker 4 (27:47):
My kid was charged three hundred dollars for volleyball her
senior year. I think it was about three hundred bucks. Okay,
well every year that she played reasonable Well, yes, but
and I think to use the term ask, I think
that's technically what it was. You know, they do the
parents meeting beforehand, and they say three hundred dollars covers
you know, the bag, the sweatshirt at the uniforms, the this,
(28:10):
the that, the and if you can't pay it, we understand.
Was kind of the way it went. Now again, from
a you know, nice neighborhood, that's probably not that difficult.
But the idea that you had, I mean, when we
played high school sports, the whole point of it was
that you didn't have to pay for it.
Speaker 5 (28:30):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
Yeah, you may have worn jersey. I mean, the jerseys
that we wore when I played football had been handed
down for like twelve.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Seeds the amount of sweat other people's sweat I had.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
I had different numbers my home and away jerseys because
they didn't have I.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Was thirteen at home, I was fourteen away.
Speaker 7 (28:48):
Yeah, we had a trailer with helmets that you'd walk
in and they'd put a helmet on your head and
then it whatever shook the.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
Least nothing, And it's not like they washed it.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
They just have been there.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
At the end of football.
Speaker 7 (29:00):
Everybody buys their own helmet, they buy their own shoulder pads,
they buy their own like the pants that you wear
for football, Like I spend at least four hundred bucks
just when my kid played peewee football on the equipment,
which again I don't I don't necessarily have a problem with,
but it's just it's interesting to me kind of like
what we talked about, like people wanting people's teachers to
get fired.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
And then one hundred dollars, one hundred.
Speaker 7 (29:22):
Dollars for the year for you just to say I'm
going to play the sport and you're up in.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Arms about it.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
That's crazy. Five hundred dollars. I'm still stuck on. I'm
not gonna lie.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
You're not even getting into the thirty seven fifty. That's
the advance.
Speaker 8 (29:33):
You can't even hear that, do you know what? Stdian Pancakes,
Thank you, Justin.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
As always, all right, Monks and Merril Show is coming
up next. We'll see it tomorrow as they drive everybody blessing.
This is k You've been listening to things Gary and Shannon.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
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