December 4, 2025 • 32 mins
In today’s What’s Happening, Gary and Shannon run through the biggest stories of the day. Then it’s time for a Small Biz Shout Out featuring Franklin Haynes Marionettes—a puppet company keeping a rare and beautiful art form alive for over 30 years. And in #StrangeScience, we dive into new updates on 3i/Atlas and what researchers are discovering next.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to kf
I AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on
demand on the iHeartRadio app. Well, it's not every day
we have puppeteers coming in, and I know that your
love of puppetry is vast, so I wanted to look
presentable for the professional puppeteers the right word.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Yeah, okay, performers, puppeteer performers. I don't know if you'd
have to use both of them together, but you could.
You could go buy one.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Of them, because Marionett's the actual puppet, right, that's not
the person cked.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Okay, have you ever done any of that? Of course
you have.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Was a kid, I mean, well.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
I was a kid too, but I didn't have puppets.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
I had one of those puppets that you could get
from the county fair that was like it wasn't really
a monkey, but it was a monster monkey. Think of
Grover from Sesame Street, and his little legs would strap
around you in the little velcrove hold illy to have
a you put them on around your neck. Yeah, and
with your left hand, since I was right handed, with
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my left hand, I could control his head and it
looked like he was just hanging on you as a.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Cret is the cutest thing. What was his name?
Speaker 4 (01:11):
I don't know if I named him?
Speaker 5 (01:13):
You did?
Speaker 4 (01:14):
I named everything?
Speaker 5 (01:15):
Name?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
You named the snake that you made?
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:19):
What was his name again?
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Guber Gasorb?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Yeah? What else is going on?
Speaker 6 (01:26):
Time for what?
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Right Care facility just called and they're like nah. The
FBI made an announcement today they have arrested a suspect
in the Washington, DC pipe bomb case from the evening
before the January sixth Capitol riot. This is one of
those unsolved cases that has taken forever. They had plenty
(01:49):
of video and still footage of this guy planting pipe
bombs outside the Democratic Party headquarters and the Republican Party
headquarters on January fifth of twenty twenty one, complete with timers,
et cetera. They had a very generic physical description of
this guy. They had a pretty good line on how
(02:10):
tall he was, how much he weighed, just based on
the images, but his shoes also, there was a very specific.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Nike shoe that he was wearing, and they were.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Able to track him down through just literal investigative work.
Dan Bongino, Deputy Director of the FBI at a news
conference today said this didn't come from new sources of
information or new tips or anything like that, that they
just reviewed the information that they already had at the FBI.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Wind advisories are in effect through three pm today for
parts of interur in La Counties. You've got the Santa
Monica and San Gabriel Mountains as well. This is our
Santa Ana wind event for the week, and there was
video capturing these winds overnight.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
I E Ontario, Fontana.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Going to get northeast winds between twenty five and forty
miles per hour expected. You know where you are, as
Henry de Carlo said this morning. We get the similar
spots every time, and.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
You know who you are.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
So there is a huge stretch of Mulholland Highway that
has reopened. It's called the Snake. It's about two point
four miles between Canaan and Sierra Creek Roads up in
the Santa Monica Mountains. Officially reopened just Tuesday after it
had been closed to vehicle traffic since twenty eighteen since
the Woolsey fire. And there's a reputation for cratches. Crashes
(03:36):
is most people how they pronounce it crashes, high speed
street races up there. Some residents have called for this
thing to stay closed, but they've added some new curve
warning signs. They updated the road stripes, the safety ballards,
the rumble strips, et cetera, to try to cut down
on the accidents up there.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Love a rumble strip all right, Cheese cheeses. My husband
made chili last night. I had forgotten to get the
sh shreaded cheese. Unfortunately, don't get shredded cheese. Well do,
but check your cheese.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Don't get shredded cheese. Why it's awful. It's bad for you.
It's like sawdust they put in that thing to keep
it shredded. And just get a block of cheese and shredded.
Bring me the block of cheese. I'll shredd it for you.
I'd rather you have fresh shredded cheese than a bag
of shredded.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Well, I like your shredded cheese. It's like three or
four different types of cheese.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Bring me three or four different blocks of cheese, and
I will shred you cheese.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Don't eat bad cheese. I'm concerned about you.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
This is stronger than the menopause hill you died on earlier.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I just think that that, well, it's not going to
help you once you get into menopause.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
You eating all this nasty stuff.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Really, yeah, just et regular.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Cheese, okay, yeah, cheese, hand grated cheese.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
No idea, machines eat shreaded cheese. Do not eat that,
my goodness. Well, if you eat shreaded chees cheese, check.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
It out, bad human. If you eat shredded cheese out
of a bag.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
More than yeah, you too.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
We need to change some of these habits that you're me.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Too, because when I'm in the mood for nachos that
I'm just throwing that toast reveran, I'm not in the
mood to.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Shred cheese off a block.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
I want to go and into the fridge and get
that bag of shredded cheese and just pour. That takes
about four point two seconds, and I've got nachos. Delicious nachos,
really delicious, delicious.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Oh yeah, bagged grated cheese. It's notreded. The word that
you said graded, Well, that was a very interesting semantic argument.
You just wanted to drag me.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
It's different, graded and shredded is very different. Why, well,
you get shredded and then the grated is smaller, like yeah,
like parmesan, you got you get the block parmesan and
you're great at yourself, right, But shredded cheese is different.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
That's what you use for nachos and chili and stuff.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Stronger, it's longer, it's the strips as opposed to just crumble.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Completely allow all of that. Really, you do it yourself.
No way. I just asked cheese. Other than that, just
ask cheese in a bag.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
This is a strong argument. I didn't even know. I
didn't even know he felt this way.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
What did they put in there to make it so
not sticky?
Speaker 5 (06:29):
Huh?
Speaker 4 (06:29):
What do you think they put in there?
Speaker 3 (06:30):
You think, Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know. You were
a temple of health over there.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
You had no idea.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
You were so freaking pristine with your guts.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Our friends from Franklin Haynes Marionettes are going to come
in and clean all this.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
You eat much worse than a bag of shredded cheese
by a fresh.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Small business shout out when we come back.
Speaker 6 (06:51):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
We just got some breaking news.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
President Trump is replaced the architect he handpicked to.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Design the White House ballroom.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Uh oh.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Getting fired from that job is a big deal, right
Why it was a fatigue firm and they didn't know
if this boutique firm would be able to handle the massive,
high profile nature of replacing the ballroom or redoing the
ballroom or making a ballroom.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
At the White House. So anyway, that marriage has ended
unfortunately for that.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
In sync, in sync, yes, yes, I see what Elmer
was doing there.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Because the video had them as marionettes. I love what
I feel like is a lost art.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
And when we heard about Haines Marionettes through a news
and bruise, I was anxious to have them in studio
for our small business shout out. And that is exactly
who we have here today. Franklin Haines has been in
this job, this business, this game.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
For forty years.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Local guy from Newport Beach and he is the guy
behind Haines Marionettes.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
You can find them h A.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Y n Ees Marionettes at Hainesmaronettes dot com.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Franklin, thanks for coming in.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
Yeah, thank you. We're huge fans of you guys, totally, Yeah,
we love your show and yeah, forty years, I feel
like I'm an old man. It's crazy, but yeah, forty
years and I think what has made us stand for
so long is just the quality of our shows and
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the passion. You know that all of my puppeteers put
in behind these shows are handcrafted marionettes. And you're right,
it is a lost art. And I heard before another
way of putting it. It's an obscure arts. It's really
hard to find. You can find it, so it's not
completely lost. But the exciting part is, you know, making
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kids happy and doing the marionettes. And we have like
a catalog of twelve different shows, so it really kind
of keeps us going and we keep them current. Our
show right now is called Santis News Sleigh and it's
based kind of off the idea of Tesla. You know,
Santa is going high tech, getting funny a slig He
gets rid of his reindeer, you can go faster, all
the kids get more presents this year. Well, lo and
(09:12):
behold it breaks down. He has to push it in
the middle.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Of the show.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Let me guess who comes to the rescue.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
Yeah, yeah, is it Rudolph. It's his baby. It's his baby, baby, Rudy.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Oh okay, I was like, Santa has a baby.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
Well, a lot of people don't know this, but Rudolph
Haw's a wife, Rita. Yeah, they have a new baby,
baby Rudy. What and he is now pulling Santa's new sleigh.
Rudolph's baby is baby Rudy. Oh my gosh, this is exciting.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
Yeah, baby Rudy is a cutie patuities.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Yeah, this is not it's not a joke to say
that this is an art form. Especially in the twentieth century,
this became a massive Were there people that you saw
as a kid that Marionette's puppeteers that you saw as
a kid that made you want to get into this?
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (09:56):
Yeah absolutely. When I I grew up here in Santa
californi Ornia, and some puppeteers came to our school did
an assembly, and I was mitten, and I wish I
could find out who these guys were. They were second
or third generation puppeteers from Italy, and they did the
school assembly and I just got bit by the puppet bug.
And my mom saw that in me as a little
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kid and took me to Bob Baker Marionette. I'm gonna
give a shout out to a big fan. One of
the more memorable things in my career was actually doing
a party for him personally as a puppeteer.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
So it's like, were you so nervous?
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Yeah, totally, totally yeah, But what do you say after? Oh,
he enjoyed it, you know he I think all entertainers,
especially puppeteers, were kids at heart, and so you know,
it just comes right out with him, all of us.
Just you see that young the child in all of us.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
How do you come up with the ideas for the
shows and how often did they change?
Speaker 5 (10:51):
Well? Right now, we have a catalog of twelve shows,
like I mentioned, and you can find out more about
it at puppet shows dot com at my website puppet Shows.
I've been around four while and you know, just keeping
up with current events and just things like with this
whole you know, electric cars and Tesla thot, Oh, it'd
be really cool to have a show and you know,
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lean out more that way. So you know, just like
any performing artists, sometimes they just pop into your head.
There's really no rhyme or reason.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
James is here as well. Your dad was involved for
a long time, right.
Speaker 7 (11:25):
Yeah, he's been doing puppet shows ever since I was born.
I'm not going to go into the euro was born,
none of that. We don't need to talk about that.
But I grew up with the puppets that Frank made.
I remember being a kid in the garage watching my
dad practice these shows. So I've grown up with these
puppets over the years. Some of them are even older
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than I am, which, mind you, we're not going to mention.
And when I was like twenty twenty one, Frank he
asked me, He's like, hey, would you like to you know,
you know, if I were to teach you how to
perform with Maryonnettes, would you be interested? And I said, okay,
I've been doing children's entertainment a long time.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Ever since I was fifteen.
Speaker 7 (12:08):
I first started getting into the you know, like Elmo costumes,
do magic clown shows. And when and I grew up
with Frank, you know, as as a kid, he would
come over to our house for barbecues and everything.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
So when he.
Speaker 7 (12:21):
Introduced me to the craft and he pulled some strings
from me, I was like, okay, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
That's a hard thing to just pick up and learn, though,
like wearing the almost suit like it's a it's a
it's a job itself to learn how to do that well,
you know, and put on suits like that, But to
be a puppet two, that's like specialized, I would assume,
and a hard thing to just pick up. How long
did it take you to get the skill sharp enough
to where you could do shows?
Speaker 4 (12:49):
I want to say a little bit over a year.
Speaker 7 (12:51):
The biggest issue was things just getting tangled, because when
it comes to puppets, especially some of our maryonnettes are
very intricate and you can have you know, just one
string you know, go wrong.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Or tie up it a knot, and it can be
really frustrating.
Speaker 7 (13:07):
So in the beginning, my very first few years, you know,
sometimes I would be ready to start a show and
I got my puppet.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
I was like, oh, it's it's tangled. Yeah, how am
I gonna through?
Speaker 5 (13:16):
The pumpet heads fall off once in a while, you
know something like that.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
You've got to ad.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Lib through that, like oh my head fell off or
I don't know, get part of the show.
Speaker 7 (13:25):
Right, Yeah, absolutely, and you know the show must go on.
And it's just one of those things that you know,
just get better with it with time. The biggest thing
that's also just taught me to is just patience that
a lot of times when a puppet would get tangled,
or I'd be rushing to a gig, A lot of
times when you rush and you're not present, you're more.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Likely to mess up.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
So true and everything, yeah versus you know.
Speaker 7 (13:48):
Now, every once in the blue moon, I'll have a
little tangle or something that goes slightly wrong. I just
take a breath and usually it's fixed within a matter
of less than twenty you know, ten seconds.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Yeah, and I'm good to go again.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Pumpetshows dot com again is where you can find all
the information. Franklin, I had a question because the upcoming
Toy Story movie, I think it's Toy Story five comes
out next summer. I believe, Yeah, really excited and they're big,
they're big enemy evil. The antagonist in it is a tablet.
I mean the technology that you have to I guess
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fight fight with to get the attention of these kids.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
Yes, you know, there's actually opposite contrary thought. I think
there's a more of a renaissance with you know, AI
and the YouTube videos. I've got boys and they're always
watching YouTube videos and of course they're online gaming and stuff.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Parents teachers.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
People out there, they want live entertainment. There's a real
hunger for that.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Can you guys stick around for another segment because I
want to talk about that.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
I think that's really interesting.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
I think we're I think the pendulum has swung and
absolutely swinging back and for it. Okay, we'll do that
with Franklin and James here from Haines Marionettes. You can
check them out at puppet shows dot com and we'll
talk about that kind of a change in thought process
when it comes to entertaining your kids.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Well, by the way, booking now for the holiday events.
Their calendar is going to fill up, so go to
puppet shows dot com.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
I got three puppeteers that are looking for work.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Gary and Shannon will continue here just a minute.
Speaker 6 (15:23):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Do you want a small business shout out on this Thursday?
And we have welcomed in Franklin and James from Haines
Marionettes and you can check them out at puppet shows
dot com. They've got holiday bookings available. And we were
talking before the break Franklin, who's been in this business,
in this game for forty plus years about how business
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kind of you know, it'd ebbs and flows, and it
has taken a dip probably like Gary was mentioning with
the onset of kids tablets and screens everywhere, but that
you're noticing it kind of a resurgence of parents and
teachers and people responsible for kids programs that they want
to move back towards live entertainment, interactive entertainment for kids
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that does not involve screens.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
Right. I think the part that is important is with
the tablets and the AI and just all this stuff
taking kids attention, they are getting further and further away
working with their own hands. You know, when I was.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
A kid, I would love to make puppets.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
You know, I wasn't taken away by video games and stuff,
and so something that's live and tangible that kids can
do is just critically important. And I think, you know,
the red flags are out when we see everybody, even adults,
on their cell phones and stuff that were just so isolated.
So as much as we can create an experience that's live,
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where they can be a community together as an audience
and experience a shared experience, I think that it's swinging
back like the people are realizing how critically important that is,
especially in this day and age of being so isolated.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
And you don't need a lot of technology to make
your first puppet. As I was saying that, I remember
in the fourth grade we would make puppets out of
lunch bags, obviously.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Thinking of.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
The puppets that are made with just hand, with just socks,
so that those are some of the simplest things that
you can do. You don't need I mean, marionettes are fantastic,
but you start getting three or four strings and there's
more strings than there are fingers, and you're having a
hard time figuring it out. Might be hard for a
kid to understand that, but you can start very simple.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Yeah, absolutely, that's how I did as well. You know,
I remember my first puppet ever made was a g
I Joe me a little bit, and I remember taking
my dad's fish in line and taking Gi Joe and
taking a knife and you know, cutting them apart and
putting them back together so he could be floppy, you know,
so I could articulate him. And I would do, you know,
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my first show in my closet with in a cardboard
box and you know, doing for my aunts and uncles.
My mom would tell the oh, come on over, you
guys got to see a show, and I'd bring out
this puppet. Yeah, but you know, you can start anywhere,
and that that to me is a red flag. Kids
don't have that opportunity to get out there and really
create if they're being taken away.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Or a supportive mom like you had. Yeah, absolutely, my
mom got about like absolutely not put down the poject sooner.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
That's different.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
But you know what, there's something to be said about
a desire for things to be real and to know
they're real. How often in recent days and weeks and
months have we looked at our phone and said, is
that real? There's that AI every day every day and
it sucks and I hate that And are we going
to be doing that forever? When you watch the magic
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of puppetry and you know that that magic is real,
that is something that I think is at a premium
these days.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (19:15):
No, absolutely, And actually, speaking of opportunity, we actually have
an opportunity for you guys. This is actually from Saint
Nick himself. Let me just get out of the sleigh
hold on, Oh, Gary and Shannon puppets that we had
to make what so I have one for you.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Oh my goodness, I might recognize.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
The people, so they have their own Gary and Shannon
puppets to make.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
What it is.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
There's a lunch bag that you are mentioning that is
oh wow.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
So then I put my little face on there.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
That is so cool, so we can make our puppet
and then we can.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
This is a excited.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
It's a good thing that it's a good thing. We
did this towards the end of the show because she's
going to be.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Distracted this face on the bag.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
Oh yeah, I do right, oh I color okay.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
Yeah. We do our shows. We have you know, different
options where they can do the show and then afterwards
we have an educational workshop where we talk about the art,
the science, and the history of puppetry, and then we
also have this puppet making activity afterwards.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
So yet I haven't started yet. Now still listening to that.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
You want to hold that up so you can see
that that one's me, just so you.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Know that one's Shannon right there. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (20:37):
So basically we encourage kids to you know, use their
hands and get out of the screens and you know,
even something as simple as this, you know, for those
at home, well as you can't see. We have uh
these little paper handouts where we have paper bag puppets
with Gary and Shannon on there.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
It's very exclusive to KFI.
Speaker 7 (20:58):
You know, we have a limited We still have some
copies left, only like fifty left, so if only fifty
limited edition.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
This is also a strange week because puppets actually made
the made national news this week because of the Jim
Henson the studios that were here. They took that giant
twelve foot tall Kermit the Frog and they're sending him
to Georgia at the at the Center for Puppetry Arts
in Atlanta. That's that's got to be a big deal
(21:27):
for you guys to see puppets in the news.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
Ye yeah, absolutely. I have always been a Jim Henson fan,
and I had a great opportunity to actually meet him
before he passed away. They have a national puppet what
is it called Puppeteers of America. He was the guest
keynote speaker that day, and so he was roaming around
the grounds and so I was able to go up
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to him and tell him what a big fan I
was of him, and then he ended up passing.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
It's funny that the Shannon used the word magic just
in terms of what it is that goes on.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Wow. Wow, that was really fast. Wow, that has some
great artwork there.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Fantastic the marionettes in the way that you are able
to manipulate them. Uh, there is a magic to that
in that. I think a lot of people don't understand
the dexterity that it requires, and there are things that
you can make those marionettes do that would probably blow
people's minds.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
How in the world. It's like a card trick almost.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Yeah, it's I mean, I know how a lot of
card tricks are done, but I would never be able
to actually physically manipulate a deck of cards to spit
out four aces or something like that.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
It does take practice. We actually have marionettes that blow bubbles,
believe it or not, Marionettes that are on a trap
piece that actually do flips into cool Yeah. So one
of the magical parts about our shows is that they
are interactive in that and they do things to the
music right in front of the kids, and those kinds
of tricks like juggling.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
That's incredible.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (22:58):
I also want to chime in a lot of people
and they think of puppets. They think, okay, just kids shows,
which obviously we're catered towards children, but adults have a
lot of fun with it too, actually sometimes even more
than the kids.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
All kids, who are we kidding?
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Well?
Speaker 2 (23:12):
On the testimonials page on the website, one of the
one of one of I think the greatest lines is
the even the parents wanted to stay around and watch.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
That's a great Gary my puppet is lonely and.
Speaker 7 (23:23):
We need a fellow Gary puppet.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Well, he's just blank so far at this point. I'll
work on it during the break.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (23:30):
Also a fun fact, we actually do have one adult
puppet show.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
No no, no, what. It's kind of hidden on our site.
Speaker 7 (23:40):
It's not as popular because obviously we're catered towards kids,
but it is pretty fun. It has like a lot
of like kind of political humor in it too, and and.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
Stuff Puppets at night, that's what it's called Puppets after Dark.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
Great Again.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Puppet Shows dot Com is where you're gonna find Franklin
Haynes Marionette's pulling heartstrings since nineteen eight. All of the
ways that the different shows that you have how to
book all the public shows are listed there as well
under the come see Us tab that you can find
their puppet Shows dot com.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
On all The costumes, by the way, are stellar. They
are professionally designed constructed by a former Disney designer, so
it is top notch puppetry.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Go check them out puppet Shows dot Com.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
Happy holidays, guys, Hey, thank you, thank you for having us.
Speaker 6 (24:23):
Okay, you're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
You got other Go to Hainesmaranettes dot com for more
information about Franklin and James and the Haines Maryannettes or
puppet Shows dot com. All the information there, not just
about the shows that are available, but all the history
of the company itself.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
It's fun to meet people who are into what they do,
love it like it is so increasingly rare. It's fun
to hear people excited about what they're doing.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Yeah, and those guys, have you kept their you kept.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Their krans Oooh you got to give their puppet stuff back.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
I didn't mean to.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
I'll go see if they're still here.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Gotta go tell.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
In the meantime, Elmer, why don'd you play this science?
Part thing?
Speaker 6 (25:15):
Science? It's like weird science, but strange.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Well, we've talked many times about this mysterious interstellar object
three I at Lias, whatever it appears to be. NASA
and the European Space Agency said it's nothing less or
nothing more than a lifeless comet. But there are some
weird things, specifically about three eye at lists that make
it different than all of the other comments that we
(25:47):
have seen. In fact, we've talked many times about Harvard
professor Avi Lobe still pointing out it doesn't explain exactly
what's going on. There's a comet tale that points in
the wrong direction, the object actually turns blue, oh is
it gets close to the Sun, and then of changes
that defy gravity. Of course that the course changes that
defy gravity. That's just a few of the things. Now,
(26:09):
NASA has dismissed any of those irregularities as a byproduct
of this thing coming from a distant solar system. They
said that just means that it's probably made up of
different chemicals that were then were used to So.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
Probably we just don't know how to react to this.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Maybe it is a lifeless comet, it's just a different
flavor of lifeless comet.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Maybe, how are you with lazy eyes.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
I know that you have one.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
I have a lazy eye.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
You used to have one. Oh, you had special glasses.
We had to wear a.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
Patch it did.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Yes, yes, I remember. My sister has a lazy eye. Well,
she and I both have one, but it only comes
out after four to six drinks. That's when it can
be spotted. We know one of my girlfriends, her husband has.
It's a lazy eye. It's very common. It's more common,
(27:03):
I think than we think. And can it be so
yours was trained to not be lazy? Well, here's never
heard of somebody being able to train their way out there.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
There's a difference between my flavor of lazy eye and
other trying.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Specifically right now, not to idea I know what's going on.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
But there's a lazy eye where if you look somebody
straight on and it looks like one of their eyes
is going the other way. Yeah, that's that's what everybody
thinks of when you say lazy eye.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
My lazy eye was my eye was weaker.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Sorry this, I oh, you mean like the weaker the
just a lazy eye.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Oh so it didn't go off to the side.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
It never not that I know of. I mean I
wouldn't know, because I've never looked at it.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
That's the other ones, the one that.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Want just messing with me, so that your wife's never
told you this, that this one wanders just a little bit,
just once in a while, usually when it's really warm
out it's.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
About to raise.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
My knees hurt, and my left eye wanders. There is
a study that suggests that they think they've found a
way to reverse lazy eye, even in those adults who
would typically have had this thing since childhood. So far,
the technique has only been tested in lazy eyed animals.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Wow, like, like animal testing is not bad enough. You're
finding the ones with the lazy eye and doing extra stuff.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Not cool, not what you do. If you saw a
cat with a lazy eye, I'd let it be. I
wouldn't do extra testing on it.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
A lazy eye or amblyoplia sorry. Amblyopia develops when the
brain favors one eye over the other in early childhood.
It causes vision in the less favored eye to decline,
which is what happened in my right eye. The standard
treatment involves putting a patch over the stronger eye to
force the brain to rely on the weaker one.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
When you got your eyes. No, e, so you like
it like a thirty percent over there?
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Oh, I don't even know if i'd say that, like
i'd have a hard time. I'm reading this paper here,
and it's not because I can't read the lines. It's
for some reason there's a cognition issue where that eyeball
it doesn't register letters as the same thing. Like, like
my right eye is dyslexic. Oh, really kind of fast.
That's the only way I can think to describe what
I see if I only look through my right eye.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Interesting, mom, take a lot of time at all or.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
No, I don't think I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
But they said the patch method is effective only during
infancy and early childhood.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
So I didn't wear a patch until I was six
or seven.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Until you could remember that you wore a patch and
it really screwed you up.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Yeah, But when I knew that I was being made
fun OF's that's what I started wearing. They said, those
neural connections that regulate vision are still being formed earlier
than that, so that may they may have simply gotten
it to me too late. But now a study of
mice introduces a method for temporary shutting temporarily shutting down
the weak eye and rebooting the lazy eye. And one
(30:01):
of the ways that they would want to do that,
they said, is too in the lazy eye injecting an esthetic.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
When I was in Utah, I went to I believe
it's called Mill Creek Dinosaur Track area. It is known
as the most diverse.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Dinosaur crossing in North America.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
That I went to is this is where you could
see the footprints, yeah, or the claw dinosaurs.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (30:30):
And it was really cool, really freaking cool. Scientists have
discovered a record breaking number of fossilized dinosaur footprints and
swim tracks in a national park in central Bolivia.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
Now what's a swim track?
Speaker 3 (30:44):
I don't know. I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Most of the tracks belong to bipedal three toed dinosaurs
known as theropods that lived at the end of the
about one hundred and forty five million to sixty six
million years ago. Bird track are also Cretaceous. Yes, many
bird tracks also are preserved.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
This is the.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Highest number of dinosaur footprints ever found for a single
track site thus far. Wow, that's a whole lot of dinosaurs,
all right. John Cobalt Show coming up next.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Hey, you miss any part of our show, go back
and check out the podcast. We'd love it if you
would subscribe to the podcast.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Its pretty good one. It had everything and it really did.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Yeah, fun.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
I think it had everything but sports. There's no sports.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
We did mention the Cowboys and the Allions tonight in Detroit,
that's true, So yeah, it did have everything.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
Go back and check out.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
You want the whole thing, the whole kit and kaboodle,
the whole Golden Corral, the whole buffet.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
Today's the show.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
See that one's going a little bit to the riots.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Because I was looking at Eric was looking at us
with the He's like, wrap it up, folks, playtime is over.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
Stay dry, everybody, lussics. You've been listening to the Gary
and Shannon Show.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
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This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to kf
I AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on
demand on the iHeartRadio app. Well, it's not every day
we have puppeteers coming in, and I know that your
love of puppetry is vast, so I wanted to look
presentable for the professional puppeteers the right word.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Yeah, okay, performers, puppeteer performers. I don't know if you'd
have to use both of them together, but you could.
You could go buy one.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Of them, because Marionett's the actual puppet, right, that's not
the person cked.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Okay, have you ever done any of that? Of course
you have.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Was a kid, I mean, well.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
I was a kid too, but I didn't have puppets.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
I had one of those puppets that you could get
from the county fair that was like it wasn't really
a monkey, but it was a monster monkey. Think of
Grover from Sesame Street, and his little legs would strap
around you in the little velcrove hold illy to have
a you put them on around your neck. Yeah, and
with your left hand, since I was right handed, with
(01:03):
my left hand, I could control his head and it
looked like he was just hanging on you as a.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Cret is the cutest thing. What was his name?
Speaker 4 (01:11):
I don't know if I named him?
Speaker 5 (01:13):
You did?
Speaker 4 (01:14):
I named everything?
Speaker 5 (01:15):
Name?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
You named the snake that you made?
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:19):
What was his name again?
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Guber Gasorb?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Yeah? What else is going on?
Speaker 6 (01:26):
Time for what?
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Right Care facility just called and they're like nah. The
FBI made an announcement today they have arrested a suspect
in the Washington, DC pipe bomb case from the evening
before the January sixth Capitol riot. This is one of
those unsolved cases that has taken forever. They had plenty
(01:49):
of video and still footage of this guy planting pipe
bombs outside the Democratic Party headquarters and the Republican Party
headquarters on January fifth of twenty twenty one, complete with timers,
et cetera. They had a very generic physical description of
this guy. They had a pretty good line on how
(02:10):
tall he was, how much he weighed, just based on
the images, but his shoes also, there was a very specific.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Nike shoe that he was wearing, and they were.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Able to track him down through just literal investigative work.
Dan Bongino, Deputy Director of the FBI at a news
conference today said this didn't come from new sources of
information or new tips or anything like that, that they
just reviewed the information that they already had at the FBI.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Wind advisories are in effect through three pm today for
parts of interur in La Counties. You've got the Santa
Monica and San Gabriel Mountains as well. This is our
Santa Ana wind event for the week, and there was
video capturing these winds overnight.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
I E Ontario, Fontana.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Going to get northeast winds between twenty five and forty
miles per hour expected. You know where you are, as
Henry de Carlo said this morning. We get the similar
spots every time, and.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
You know who you are.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
So there is a huge stretch of Mulholland Highway that
has reopened. It's called the Snake. It's about two point
four miles between Canaan and Sierra Creek Roads up in
the Santa Monica Mountains. Officially reopened just Tuesday after it
had been closed to vehicle traffic since twenty eighteen since
the Woolsey fire. And there's a reputation for cratches. Crashes
(03:36):
is most people how they pronounce it crashes, high speed
street races up there. Some residents have called for this
thing to stay closed, but they've added some new curve
warning signs. They updated the road stripes, the safety ballards,
the rumble strips, et cetera, to try to cut down
on the accidents up there.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Love a rumble strip all right, Cheese cheeses. My husband
made chili last night. I had forgotten to get the
sh shreaded cheese. Unfortunately, don't get shredded cheese. Well do,
but check your cheese.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Don't get shredded cheese. Why it's awful. It's bad for you.
It's like sawdust they put in that thing to keep
it shredded. And just get a block of cheese and shredded.
Bring me the block of cheese. I'll shredd it for you.
I'd rather you have fresh shredded cheese than a bag
of shredded.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Well, I like your shredded cheese. It's like three or
four different types of cheese.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Bring me three or four different blocks of cheese, and
I will shred you cheese.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Don't eat bad cheese. I'm concerned about you.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
This is stronger than the menopause hill you died on earlier.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I just think that that, well, it's not going to
help you once you get into menopause.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
You eating all this nasty stuff.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Really, yeah, just et regular.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Cheese, okay, yeah, cheese, hand grated cheese.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
No idea, machines eat shreaded cheese. Do not eat that,
my goodness. Well, if you eat shreaded chees cheese, check.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
It out, bad human. If you eat shredded cheese out
of a bag.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
More than yeah, you too.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
We need to change some of these habits that you're me.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Too, because when I'm in the mood for nachos that
I'm just throwing that toast reveran, I'm not in the
mood to.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Shred cheese off a block.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
I want to go and into the fridge and get
that bag of shredded cheese and just pour. That takes
about four point two seconds, and I've got nachos. Delicious nachos,
really delicious, delicious.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Oh yeah, bagged grated cheese. It's notreded. The word that
you said graded, Well, that was a very interesting semantic argument.
You just wanted to drag me.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
It's different, graded and shredded is very different. Why, well,
you get shredded and then the grated is smaller, like yeah,
like parmesan, you got you get the block parmesan and
you're great at yourself, right, But shredded cheese is different.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
That's what you use for nachos and chili and stuff.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Stronger, it's longer, it's the strips as opposed to just crumble.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Completely allow all of that. Really, you do it yourself.
No way. I just asked cheese. Other than that, just
ask cheese in a bag.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
This is a strong argument. I didn't even know. I
didn't even know he felt this way.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
What did they put in there to make it so
not sticky?
Speaker 5 (06:29):
Huh?
Speaker 4 (06:29):
What do you think they put in there?
Speaker 3 (06:30):
You think, Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know. You were
a temple of health over there.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
You had no idea.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
You were so freaking pristine with your guts.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Our friends from Franklin Haynes Marionettes are going to come
in and clean all this.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
You eat much worse than a bag of shredded cheese
by a fresh.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Small business shout out when we come back.
Speaker 6 (06:51):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
We just got some breaking news.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
President Trump is replaced the architect he handpicked to.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Design the White House ballroom.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Uh oh.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Getting fired from that job is a big deal, right
Why it was a fatigue firm and they didn't know
if this boutique firm would be able to handle the massive,
high profile nature of replacing the ballroom or redoing the
ballroom or making a ballroom.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
At the White House. So anyway, that marriage has ended
unfortunately for that.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
In sync, in sync, yes, yes, I see what Elmer
was doing there.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Because the video had them as marionettes. I love what
I feel like is a lost art.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
And when we heard about Haines Marionettes through a news
and bruise, I was anxious to have them in studio
for our small business shout out. And that is exactly
who we have here today. Franklin Haines has been in
this job, this business, this game.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
For forty years.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Local guy from Newport Beach and he is the guy
behind Haines Marionettes.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
You can find them h A.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Y n Ees Marionettes at Hainesmaronettes dot com.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Franklin, thanks for coming in.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
Yeah, thank you. We're huge fans of you guys, totally, Yeah,
we love your show and yeah, forty years, I feel
like I'm an old man. It's crazy, but yeah, forty
years and I think what has made us stand for
so long is just the quality of our shows and
(08:28):
the passion. You know that all of my puppeteers put
in behind these shows are handcrafted marionettes. And you're right,
it is a lost art. And I heard before another
way of putting it. It's an obscure arts. It's really
hard to find. You can find it, so it's not
completely lost. But the exciting part is, you know, making
(08:50):
kids happy and doing the marionettes. And we have like
a catalog of twelve different shows, so it really kind
of keeps us going and we keep them current. Our
show right now is called Santis News Sleigh and it's
based kind of off the idea of Tesla. You know,
Santa is going high tech, getting funny a slig He
gets rid of his reindeer, you can go faster, all
the kids get more presents this year. Well, lo and
(09:12):
behold it breaks down. He has to push it in
the middle.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Of the show.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Let me guess who comes to the rescue.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
Yeah, yeah, is it Rudolph. It's his baby. It's his baby, baby, Rudy.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Oh okay, I was like, Santa has a baby.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
Well, a lot of people don't know this, but Rudolph
Haw's a wife, Rita. Yeah, they have a new baby,
baby Rudy. What and he is now pulling Santa's new sleigh.
Rudolph's baby is baby Rudy. Oh my gosh, this is exciting.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
Yeah, baby Rudy is a cutie patuities.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Yeah, this is not it's not a joke to say
that this is an art form. Especially in the twentieth century,
this became a massive Were there people that you saw
as a kid that Marionette's puppeteers that you saw as
a kid that made you want to get into this?
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (09:56):
Yeah absolutely. When I I grew up here in Santa
californi Ornia, and some puppeteers came to our school did
an assembly, and I was mitten, and I wish I
could find out who these guys were. They were second
or third generation puppeteers from Italy, and they did the
school assembly and I just got bit by the puppet bug.
And my mom saw that in me as a little
(10:17):
kid and took me to Bob Baker Marionette. I'm gonna
give a shout out to a big fan. One of
the more memorable things in my career was actually doing
a party for him personally as a puppeteer.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
So it's like, were you so nervous?
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Yeah, totally, totally yeah, But what do you say after? Oh,
he enjoyed it, you know he I think all entertainers,
especially puppeteers, were kids at heart, and so you know,
it just comes right out with him, all of us.
Just you see that young the child in all of us.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
How do you come up with the ideas for the
shows and how often did they change?
Speaker 5 (10:51):
Well? Right now, we have a catalog of twelve shows,
like I mentioned, and you can find out more about
it at puppet shows dot com at my website puppet Shows.
I've been around four while and you know, just keeping
up with current events and just things like with this
whole you know, electric cars and Tesla thot, Oh, it'd
be really cool to have a show and you know,
(11:13):
lean out more that way. So you know, just like
any performing artists, sometimes they just pop into your head.
There's really no rhyme or reason.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
James is here as well. Your dad was involved for
a long time, right.
Speaker 7 (11:25):
Yeah, he's been doing puppet shows ever since I was born.
I'm not going to go into the euro was born,
none of that. We don't need to talk about that.
But I grew up with the puppets that Frank made.
I remember being a kid in the garage watching my
dad practice these shows. So I've grown up with these
puppets over the years. Some of them are even older
(11:46):
than I am, which, mind you, we're not going to mention.
And when I was like twenty twenty one, Frank he
asked me, He's like, hey, would you like to you know,
you know, if I were to teach you how to
perform with Maryonnettes, would you be interested? And I said, okay,
I've been doing children's entertainment a long time.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Ever since I was fifteen.
Speaker 7 (12:08):
I first started getting into the you know, like Elmo costumes,
do magic clown shows. And when and I grew up
with Frank, you know, as as a kid, he would
come over to our house for barbecues and everything.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
So when he.
Speaker 7 (12:21):
Introduced me to the craft and he pulled some strings
from me, I was like, okay, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
That's a hard thing to just pick up and learn, though,
like wearing the almost suit like it's a it's a
it's a job itself to learn how to do that well,
you know, and put on suits like that, But to
be a puppet two, that's like specialized, I would assume,
and a hard thing to just pick up. How long
did it take you to get the skill sharp enough
to where you could do shows?
Speaker 4 (12:49):
I want to say a little bit over a year.
Speaker 7 (12:51):
The biggest issue was things just getting tangled, because when
it comes to puppets, especially some of our maryonnettes are
very intricate and you can have you know, just one
string you know, go wrong.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Or tie up it a knot, and it can be
really frustrating.
Speaker 7 (13:07):
So in the beginning, my very first few years, you know,
sometimes I would be ready to start a show and
I got my puppet.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
I was like, oh, it's it's tangled. Yeah, how am
I gonna through?
Speaker 5 (13:16):
The pumpet heads fall off once in a while, you
know something like that.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
You've got to ad.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Lib through that, like oh my head fell off or
I don't know, get part of the show.
Speaker 7 (13:25):
Right, Yeah, absolutely, and you know the show must go on.
And it's just one of those things that you know,
just get better with it with time. The biggest thing
that's also just taught me to is just patience that
a lot of times when a puppet would get tangled,
or I'd be rushing to a gig, A lot of
times when you rush and you're not present, you're more.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Likely to mess up.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
So true and everything, yeah versus you know.
Speaker 7 (13:48):
Now, every once in the blue moon, I'll have a
little tangle or something that goes slightly wrong. I just
take a breath and usually it's fixed within a matter
of less than twenty you know, ten seconds.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Yeah, and I'm good to go again.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Pumpetshows dot com again is where you can find all
the information. Franklin, I had a question because the upcoming
Toy Story movie, I think it's Toy Story five comes
out next summer. I believe, Yeah, really excited and they're big,
they're big enemy evil. The antagonist in it is a tablet.
I mean the technology that you have to I guess
(14:25):
fight fight with to get the attention of these kids.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
Yes, you know, there's actually opposite contrary thought. I think
there's a more of a renaissance with you know, AI
and the YouTube videos. I've got boys and they're always
watching YouTube videos and of course they're online gaming and stuff.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Parents teachers.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
People out there, they want live entertainment. There's a real
hunger for that.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Can you guys stick around for another segment because I
want to talk about that.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
I think that's really interesting.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
I think we're I think the pendulum has swung and
absolutely swinging back and for it. Okay, we'll do that
with Franklin and James here from Haines Marionettes. You can
check them out at puppet shows dot com and we'll
talk about that kind of a change in thought process
when it comes to entertaining your kids.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Well, by the way, booking now for the holiday events.
Their calendar is going to fill up, so go to
puppet shows dot com.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
I got three puppeteers that are looking for work.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Gary and Shannon will continue here just a minute.
Speaker 6 (15:23):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Do you want a small business shout out on this Thursday?
And we have welcomed in Franklin and James from Haines
Marionettes and you can check them out at puppet shows
dot com. They've got holiday bookings available. And we were
talking before the break Franklin, who's been in this business,
in this game for forty plus years about how business
(15:52):
kind of you know, it'd ebbs and flows, and it
has taken a dip probably like Gary was mentioning with
the onset of kids tablets and screens everywhere, but that
you're noticing it kind of a resurgence of parents and
teachers and people responsible for kids programs that they want
to move back towards live entertainment, interactive entertainment for kids
(16:13):
that does not involve screens.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
Right. I think the part that is important is with
the tablets and the AI and just all this stuff
taking kids attention, they are getting further and further away
working with their own hands. You know, when I was.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
A kid, I would love to make puppets.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
You know, I wasn't taken away by video games and stuff,
and so something that's live and tangible that kids can
do is just critically important. And I think, you know,
the red flags are out when we see everybody, even adults,
on their cell phones and stuff that were just so isolated.
So as much as we can create an experience that's live,
(17:00):
where they can be a community together as an audience
and experience a shared experience, I think that it's swinging
back like the people are realizing how critically important that is,
especially in this day and age of being so isolated.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
And you don't need a lot of technology to make
your first puppet. As I was saying that, I remember
in the fourth grade we would make puppets out of
lunch bags, obviously.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Thinking of.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
The puppets that are made with just hand, with just socks,
so that those are some of the simplest things that
you can do. You don't need I mean, marionettes are fantastic,
but you start getting three or four strings and there's
more strings than there are fingers, and you're having a
hard time figuring it out. Might be hard for a
kid to understand that, but you can start very simple.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Yeah, absolutely, that's how I did as well. You know,
I remember my first puppet ever made was a g
I Joe me a little bit, and I remember taking
my dad's fish in line and taking Gi Joe and
taking a knife and you know, cutting them apart and
putting them back together so he could be floppy, you know,
so I could articulate him. And I would do, you know,
(18:11):
my first show in my closet with in a cardboard
box and you know, doing for my aunts and uncles.
My mom would tell the oh, come on over, you
guys got to see a show, and I'd bring out
this puppet. Yeah, but you know, you can start anywhere,
and that that to me is a red flag. Kids
don't have that opportunity to get out there and really
create if they're being taken away.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Or a supportive mom like you had. Yeah, absolutely, my
mom got about like absolutely not put down the poject sooner.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
That's different.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
But you know what, there's something to be said about
a desire for things to be real and to know
they're real. How often in recent days and weeks and
months have we looked at our phone and said, is
that real? There's that AI every day every day and
it sucks and I hate that And are we going
to be doing that forever? When you watch the magic
(19:04):
of puppetry and you know that that magic is real,
that is something that I think is at a premium
these days.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (19:15):
No, absolutely, And actually, speaking of opportunity, we actually have
an opportunity for you guys. This is actually from Saint
Nick himself. Let me just get out of the sleigh
hold on, Oh, Gary and Shannon puppets that we had
to make what so I have one for you.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Oh my goodness, I might recognize.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
The people, so they have their own Gary and Shannon
puppets to make.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
What it is.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
There's a lunch bag that you are mentioning that is
oh wow.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
So then I put my little face on there.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
That is so cool, so we can make our puppet
and then we can.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
This is a excited.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
It's a good thing that it's a good thing. We
did this towards the end of the show because she's
going to be.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Distracted this face on the bag.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
Oh yeah, I do right, oh I color okay.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
Yeah. We do our shows. We have you know, different
options where they can do the show and then afterwards
we have an educational workshop where we talk about the art,
the science, and the history of puppetry, and then we
also have this puppet making activity afterwards.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
So yet I haven't started yet. Now still listening to that.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
You want to hold that up so you can see
that that one's me, just so you.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Know that one's Shannon right there. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (20:37):
So basically we encourage kids to you know, use their
hands and get out of the screens and you know,
even something as simple as this, you know, for those
at home, well as you can't see. We have uh
these little paper handouts where we have paper bag puppets
with Gary and Shannon on there.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
It's very exclusive to KFI.
Speaker 7 (20:58):
You know, we have a limited We still have some
copies left, only like fifty left, so if only fifty
limited edition.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
This is also a strange week because puppets actually made
the made national news this week because of the Jim
Henson the studios that were here. They took that giant
twelve foot tall Kermit the Frog and they're sending him
to Georgia at the at the Center for Puppetry Arts
in Atlanta. That's that's got to be a big deal
(21:27):
for you guys to see puppets in the news.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
Ye yeah, absolutely. I have always been a Jim Henson fan,
and I had a great opportunity to actually meet him
before he passed away. They have a national puppet what
is it called Puppeteers of America. He was the guest
keynote speaker that day, and so he was roaming around
the grounds and so I was able to go up
(21:50):
to him and tell him what a big fan I
was of him, and then he ended up passing.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
It's funny that the Shannon used the word magic just
in terms of what it is that goes on.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Wow. Wow, that was really fast. Wow, that has some
great artwork there.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Fantastic the marionettes in the way that you are able
to manipulate them. Uh, there is a magic to that
in that. I think a lot of people don't understand
the dexterity that it requires, and there are things that
you can make those marionettes do that would probably blow
people's minds.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
How in the world. It's like a card trick almost.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Yeah, it's I mean, I know how a lot of
card tricks are done, but I would never be able
to actually physically manipulate a deck of cards to spit
out four aces or something like that.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
It does take practice. We actually have marionettes that blow bubbles,
believe it or not, Marionettes that are on a trap
piece that actually do flips into cool Yeah. So one
of the magical parts about our shows is that they
are interactive in that and they do things to the
music right in front of the kids, and those kinds
of tricks like juggling.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
That's incredible.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (22:58):
I also want to chime in a lot of people
and they think of puppets. They think, okay, just kids shows,
which obviously we're catered towards children, but adults have a
lot of fun with it too, actually sometimes even more
than the kids.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
All kids, who are we kidding?
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Well?
Speaker 2 (23:12):
On the testimonials page on the website, one of the
one of one of I think the greatest lines is
the even the parents wanted to stay around and watch.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
That's a great Gary my puppet is lonely and.
Speaker 7 (23:23):
We need a fellow Gary puppet.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Well, he's just blank so far at this point. I'll
work on it during the break.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (23:30):
Also a fun fact, we actually do have one adult
puppet show.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
No no, no, what. It's kind of hidden on our site.
Speaker 7 (23:40):
It's not as popular because obviously we're catered towards kids,
but it is pretty fun. It has like a lot
of like kind of political humor in it too, and and.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
Stuff Puppets at night, that's what it's called Puppets after Dark.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
Great Again.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Puppet Shows dot Com is where you're gonna find Franklin
Haynes Marionette's pulling heartstrings since nineteen eight. All of the
ways that the different shows that you have how to
book all the public shows are listed there as well
under the come see Us tab that you can find
their puppet Shows dot com.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
On all The costumes, by the way, are stellar. They
are professionally designed constructed by a former Disney designer, so
it is top notch puppetry.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Go check them out puppet Shows dot Com.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
Happy holidays, guys, Hey, thank you, thank you for having us.
Speaker 6 (24:23):
Okay, you're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
You got other Go to Hainesmaranettes dot com for more
information about Franklin and James and the Haines Maryannettes or
puppet Shows dot com. All the information there, not just
about the shows that are available, but all the history
of the company itself.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
It's fun to meet people who are into what they do,
love it like it is so increasingly rare. It's fun
to hear people excited about what they're doing.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Yeah, and those guys, have you kept their you kept.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Their krans Oooh you got to give their puppet stuff back.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
I didn't mean to.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
I'll go see if they're still here.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Gotta go tell.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
In the meantime, Elmer, why don'd you play this science?
Part thing?
Speaker 6 (25:15):
Science? It's like weird science, but strange.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Well, we've talked many times about this mysterious interstellar object
three I at Lias, whatever it appears to be. NASA
and the European Space Agency said it's nothing less or
nothing more than a lifeless comet. But there are some
weird things, specifically about three eye at lists that make
it different than all of the other comments that we
(25:47):
have seen. In fact, we've talked many times about Harvard
professor Avi Lobe still pointing out it doesn't explain exactly
what's going on. There's a comet tale that points in
the wrong direction, the object actually turns blue, oh is
it gets close to the Sun, and then of changes
that defy gravity. Of course that the course changes that
defy gravity. That's just a few of the things. Now,
(26:09):
NASA has dismissed any of those irregularities as a byproduct
of this thing coming from a distant solar system. They
said that just means that it's probably made up of
different chemicals that were then were used to So.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
Probably we just don't know how to react to this.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Maybe it is a lifeless comet, it's just a different
flavor of lifeless comet.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Maybe, how are you with lazy eyes.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
I know that you have one.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
I have a lazy eye.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
You used to have one. Oh, you had special glasses.
We had to wear a.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
Patch it did.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Yes, yes, I remember. My sister has a lazy eye. Well,
she and I both have one, but it only comes
out after four to six drinks. That's when it can
be spotted. We know one of my girlfriends, her husband has.
It's a lazy eye. It's very common. It's more common,
(27:03):
I think than we think. And can it be so
yours was trained to not be lazy? Well, here's never
heard of somebody being able to train their way out there.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
There's a difference between my flavor of lazy eye and
other trying.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Specifically right now, not to idea I know what's going on.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
But there's a lazy eye where if you look somebody
straight on and it looks like one of their eyes
is going the other way. Yeah, that's that's what everybody
thinks of when you say lazy eye.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
My lazy eye was my eye was weaker.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Sorry this, I oh, you mean like the weaker the
just a lazy eye.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Oh so it didn't go off to the side.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
It never not that I know of. I mean I
wouldn't know, because I've never looked at it.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
That's the other ones, the one that.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Want just messing with me, so that your wife's never
told you this, that this one wanders just a little bit,
just once in a while, usually when it's really warm
out it's.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
About to raise.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
My knees hurt, and my left eye wanders. There is
a study that suggests that they think they've found a
way to reverse lazy eye, even in those adults who
would typically have had this thing since childhood. So far,
the technique has only been tested in lazy eyed animals.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Wow, like, like animal testing is not bad enough. You're
finding the ones with the lazy eye and doing extra stuff.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Not cool, not what you do. If you saw a
cat with a lazy eye, I'd let it be. I
wouldn't do extra testing on it.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
A lazy eye or amblyoplia sorry. Amblyopia develops when the
brain favors one eye over the other in early childhood.
It causes vision in the less favored eye to decline,
which is what happened in my right eye. The standard
treatment involves putting a patch over the stronger eye to
force the brain to rely on the weaker one.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
When you got your eyes. No, e, so you like
it like a thirty percent over there?
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Oh, I don't even know if i'd say that, like
i'd have a hard time. I'm reading this paper here,
and it's not because I can't read the lines. It's
for some reason there's a cognition issue where that eyeball
it doesn't register letters as the same thing. Like, like
my right eye is dyslexic. Oh, really kind of fast.
That's the only way I can think to describe what
I see if I only look through my right eye.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Interesting, mom, take a lot of time at all or.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
No, I don't think I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
But they said the patch method is effective only during
infancy and early childhood.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
So I didn't wear a patch until I was six
or seven.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Until you could remember that you wore a patch and
it really screwed you up.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Yeah, But when I knew that I was being made
fun OF's that's what I started wearing. They said, those
neural connections that regulate vision are still being formed earlier
than that, so that may they may have simply gotten
it to me too late. But now a study of
mice introduces a method for temporary shutting temporarily shutting down
the weak eye and rebooting the lazy eye. And one
(30:01):
of the ways that they would want to do that,
they said, is too in the lazy eye injecting an esthetic.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
When I was in Utah, I went to I believe
it's called Mill Creek Dinosaur Track area. It is known
as the most diverse.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Dinosaur crossing in North America.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
That I went to is this is where you could
see the footprints, yeah, or the claw dinosaurs.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (30:30):
And it was really cool, really freaking cool. Scientists have
discovered a record breaking number of fossilized dinosaur footprints and
swim tracks in a national park in central Bolivia.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
Now what's a swim track?
Speaker 3 (30:44):
I don't know. I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Most of the tracks belong to bipedal three toed dinosaurs
known as theropods that lived at the end of the
about one hundred and forty five million to sixty six
million years ago. Bird track are also Cretaceous. Yes, many
bird tracks also are preserved.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
This is the.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Highest number of dinosaur footprints ever found for a single
track site thus far. Wow, that's a whole lot of dinosaurs,
all right. John Cobalt Show coming up next.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
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Speaker 3 (31:22):
Its pretty good one. It had everything and it really did.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Yeah, fun.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
I think it had everything but sports. There's no sports.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
We did mention the Cowboys and the Allions tonight in Detroit,
that's true, So yeah, it did have everything.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
Go back and check out.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
You want the whole thing, the whole kit and kaboodle,
the whole Golden Corral, the whole buffet.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
Today's the show.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
See that one's going a little bit to the riots.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Because I was looking at Eric was looking at us
with the He's like, wrap it up, folks, playtime is over.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
Stay dry, everybody, lussics. You've been listening to the Gary
and Shannon Show.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
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