May 7, 2026 • 26 mins
The Gary & Shannon Show Hour 1 (05.07) – Debate fallout turns into a full-on rage session over taxes, incompetence, and California’s inability to do the basics.• NBC’s back-to-back mayoral + governor debates → who looked polished, who looked desperate, and who looked completely out of touch• Tom Steyer gets hammered → after spending massive personal money while still demanding more from taxpayers
• Xavier Becerra pushes higher taxes → and nobody on the show sounds thrilled about it• Shannon unloads on California infrastructure → potholes, insane registration fees, broken roads, and why “basic functioning government” now feels impossible
• Bigger frustration → stop pitching fantasy projects before fixing the essentials• Listener talk-backs flood in → with people just as furious about tax money disappearing into endless “feel-good” programs• Debate leftovers → Antonio Villaraigosa gets more aggressive, Katie Porter can’t outrun her reputation, and it increasingly feels like Steve Hilton and Chad Bianco are strategically aligning
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to kf
I AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on
demand on the iHeartRadio app. I don't understand in a
state like California, how you can't find a intelligent Democrat
to take the crown. I get the whole Joe Biden
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elected in dementia, it was his turn. We can we
can put clouds and smoke and mirrors and weekend at
Bernie's the first term through this right, I get that
kind of But California, which is supposed to be the
Democratic homeland, the beautiful blue state, the side of the
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other shining sea, and you're gonna you're gonna elect a
brain stem person with seven to nine brain cells. Listening
to Javier Bessera talk about the fact that he will
not eliminate the gas tax because.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
What are we gonna do about the roads? Again, No,
it doesn't make any sense. Gary.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
It's driving me. It's driving me crazy. And I may
say a bad word, but like when he says, I'm
surprised that people want to get rid of the gas tax.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
What are we going to do about the roads? How
the f does Kansas fix their roads? They don't have
the gas tax? How about Oklahoma, sir? Okay? How about
any other state that does better than California period and
fixing their roads without a gas tax? How did they
do it?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (01:39):
They just use the tax dollars that we already give them.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
What do you mean, how are we going to fix
the road? That makes no sense?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
And the fact that people take that argument and they
put a spoon in it and they ef and eat
it is insane to me, Like any thought having person
would be like.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
What are you talking about out? How did we fix.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
The roads in California before the gas tax? All the
big beautiful freeways that were built in the fifties and sixties,
There was no gas tax to pay for that.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
You know what they use?
Speaker 1 (02:10):
They used tax dollars. Why isn't anyone pushing back on that?
I don't understand?
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Can I ask you that? Just a quick side question?
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yes, I had too much coffee and I apologize.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
No, No, it's totally fine. It's totally fine. I just
now know we need to treat today a little softer.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I've heard a couple clips of Javier Bessera this morning,
and it just got me fired up. Because we've seen
this happen time and time again. And if this is
where all the Democrats think tanks exist in California, you
think you'd get the best Democrat running for governor of California, right,
like the best one, the shining star. Hey all even
given Gavin Newsom a bone. They love him for president, right?
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So yeah, he was a good Democrat, looks good on camera,
talks to talk. I don't believe in a thing he says,
but he seems to have that power over people.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
So he's the character.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Great.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
But Javier Bessera again another brainstem? What are we doing?
Speaker 5 (03:12):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (03:13):
This was exemplified last night's governor's debate seven people on stage.
Javier Bessera considered to be one of the front runners
and was obviously the target of a bunch of people
last night. Still gives me the impression that there's, like
you said, there is not a lot going on.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Nothing there there's no original If there is original thought,
it's been beaten down by the democratic system for too long.
And I love the way that Via Ragosa and Matt
Mayhem came out and put him on blast. Matt mayhean
has to do something because he's flat in the polls.
He had to come out on the attack and I
love that for him. Unfortunately, in the primary, where you
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have to hoard to all the Democrats.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
That's going to get him nowhere.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
He needs to save that attack for if he became
one of the two standing.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Right.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
That's like, you know, the the November election stuff, when
you can move to the moderate side, you know, like
you're your litmus test of if you're in favor of
seeing high speed rail through, I'm never going to vote
for you. Well, at this stage in the primary, they
all have to support it, and that's what you saw
last night.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Well, yeah, specifically, here's the high speed rail question. Do
you fit a ship, yes or no?
Speaker 6 (04:19):
Mayor Vira Gosa, Yes, a congresslom quarter.
Speaker 7 (04:23):
Yes, if you can build it faster and cheaper than
it's been projected.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Okay, Sheriff Bianco, No.
Speaker 6 (04:28):
I would rather arrest the people that stole our money,
all right.
Speaker 8 (04:32):
Are illegal spending tax phase money on pointless things. And
I improve our roads, which are the worst in the
country because of.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Democrats, mister Style.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Yes, we need a Secretary of Sepretation, public speed.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
Delivery of high speed real little bit, a high speed
delivery of high speed reil.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Yes, what does that mean?
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Well, means get.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
This litigation. We try to make it your desk. Do
you say yes or do you veto? I love angry
Conan Nolan.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
Is that to me?
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Yes, Yes, I need to.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
I want to do it the way it's been done
because we've overspent.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
But yes, we're gonna build. Yes, we're going to build
speed rail.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
See it's not send it back to the legislature and
say fixed, sequel, reduce litigation risk, let's fix the regulatory environment,
and then I'll sign the bill.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
It's like Cardi b says, it's the principle, right, It's
not about the train anymore. It's about the democratic machine
that has pushed this thing through. And are you going
to rubber stamp it as we continue, or are you
gonna get rid of it? Or are you going to
be Matt Mayhon and say all right, I like the
idea of a train, but let's scrap all this crap.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
What's funny is that the range of answers into seven people.
So you have Via Ragosa, you have Katie Porter, that
you have Tom Stott. The Republicans immediately say no, and
Chad Bianco's line, I'd rather arrest the people who stole
the money. Tom Steyer says something ridiculous like, yes, we
need public transportation, idiot, that's not what this is.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
He I'm done listening to him talk. What a waste
of money. He should have saved the the you know,
he should have built more wildlife crossings or something with
his money.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Million dollars.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
What a waste, What a waste of money.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I mean that that alone should be the case for
for what is it called reform when it comes to
how much money you spend in elections, elections spending, reform whatever,
Because my God, and and well, I mean, we can
talk all day about this, but like the fact that
he spent one hundred million dollars as a Democrat on
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a self serving I want to be governor mission. Doesn't
that fly in the face is doing good for the people? Like,
if you really cared as a Democrat for people, wouldn't
you take that hundred million and pour it into, you know,
the pockets of your friends that pretend to do things
about the homeless.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
The irony is he's a billionaire. That's a stinky label
when you're in California and that he's a progressive guy
is all so a good label, but he's got to
pay all of his billions to make the billionaire label
go away. It doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
We haven't even gotten into the private prisons he profited from.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Or the oil companies like that stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
But he isn't walking. He's a hypocrite. He's awful.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
I don't even know why they're giving him a place
on the stage other than he bought himself in.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
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Speaker 1 (07:34):
I didn't like that the way that Bessara went after
via ra Gosa with the commentation.
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I love that we try to make each other feel better.
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Speaker 5 (08:35):
From last time with Shannon.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Wouldn't it be cheaper to just give everybody a four
wheel drive.
Speaker 9 (08:41):
Vehicle so they could get through the potholes and get
rid of the gas tacks.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
I mean that sounds like a good plan to me.
Speaker 9 (08:48):
Let's go off roading on our daily.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Commute, right Who even needs freeways at this point?
Speaker 1 (08:54):
It's just wild to get by. It's just wild that
they continue to hold this gas tax fixes our roads fallacy.
It's completely blowney, That's what our taxpayer dollars should.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Go to number one.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
It's police, fire, roads, water, That's what our tax dollars
are originally meant for. And then you get all the extras.
Right then you get to talk about trains, when when
they're so homeless on the streets and the roads are
full and they don't break your car on the way
to work, then you get to talk about fun things
like trains. But right now, just do your primary function
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with the tax dollars, and that's police, firewater, roads.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
You and I both California natives, live for most of
our lives. Right I don't ever remember there being a
large clamor call for a transit corridor between Los Angeles
and San Francisco. Now maybe I wasn't old enough to.
(09:56):
I don't know. I don't ever I five one oh one,
they're all. There are ways to get the Southwest airlines,
there are ways to get from LA to San franciscoing
back and forth.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
We disagree on this because I love the idea of
a high speed rail train from San Francisco to Los Angeles.
I've taken the high speed rail trains in Europe.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
I love them. They're super cool. But that's never what
this was going to be. First of all, it was
never going to be high speed. Logistically, it was not
going to be a high speed rail. It was going
to be slow speed.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Second of all, like I said, I'd love to talk
about that, I'd love to get a train, but before
we run, we have to walk.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
We need to get the potholes fixed on the five
through Burbank, for example.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
We need to get those basic taxpayer needs funded before
we can talk about the electives and all of that.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
It's just common sense.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
And like the fact that they keep saying, well, look
at these roads, that's what it goes to.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Our roads are s our roads, suck.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
We are last in the nation or damn near last
when it comes to the roads. And maybe that's because, yes,
we have a car culture here and we drive on
them more and there's more people. Right, Well, then put
more tax dollars towards the roads.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
But yes, and that's one of the arguments existing time
we have so many cars, we have the driving culture
that does not exist in other places, which is totally true.
But with every single car comes registration and in many
other states that's plenty. That's plenty of income to keep
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and maintain update and improve the road infrastructure that exists.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
My registration is enough for rent for a family of four, right,
Like our registration fees are insane, and why is it?
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Are our roads The vast majority of our roads in
California are not destroyed by seasons, right, They're not destroyed
by snow and ice like they are in other parts. Yes,
there are some up north and in the Sierra. Yeah,
I get that there are some. But for a place
like I fly through Burbank, even even with the number
of vehicles that go through I five through Burbank every
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single day, it's an easier road to maintain than say
Highway eighty nine or Highway thirty two or Highway thirty
six or one of these places that goes to the
foothills in sierras. Those are harder to maintain because there
is weather, there are other factors. This thing should have
been easy. There are some of the easy wins that
they need to take. But the state has regulations. The
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state has all of these different contract regulations. Yeah, the
state has different rules about who they pay and how
they pay. So everything, everything, even government contracts, is going
to be more expensive.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Why was the five in nor Walk under construction for
seventeen years.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
You want us to open up the books. We'll open
up the books, find out why projects take so long
with Caltrans or whatever is it the contracts? What is
slowing things down? It's got to be your bureaucracy.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
I mean, ah that Steve Hilton summed this up halfway
through the debate last night.
Speaker 8 (12:54):
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over
and over again and expecting a different result. Well, here
in California, we've been voting Democrat over and over and
over and over again, and look at the results he made.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
That makes that point every single time.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
And and the thing that I do have a problem, well,
there's so many problems. But it's not just party. It's
not just Democrats or Republicans. It's it's just the way
that we're stuck in thinking. It's the way that all
Democrats look at Matt Mayhan and think, oh, he's a
Republican because he wants to get rid of the gas moderate,
or how all Republicans look at any Democrat who says
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they want to keep high speedrail and say, well, then
get rid of them. It's like there are certain Pavlovs
dogs sirens to both sides that they just stop listening
to each other once they hear certain things just for
the principle of them. High speed rail is one of them,
and I get that, but also.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Well when we come back, Yeah, Katie Portering, it is
so unlikable and it's showing.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
I mean she I was wondering. I was like, when
are the cracks gonna break? Because the first debate she
was perfectly composed, and slowly it's eroded and outcomes the monster.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Gary and Shannon will continue.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
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Speaker 4 (14:22):
Why don't want you to hold it too long? We're
talking about last night's governor's debate on NVC.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
Hey, Shannon is spot on. For far too long, Californians
have been trained to accept that we have a revenue
problem instead of a spending problem. The legislature has lost
sight of the priorities basic services and infrastructure over the
social issues of the day or their vision of the future.
It's really time to get them back to the basics.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Yanks and you know, and we'll get into the mayor's
debate coming up in the next hour. But look, no
further than San Francisco and the turnaround San Francisco says,
I don't know if you've been up there, but San
Francisco now, And I only know because my mom had
medical stuff, so I was in the city. But like
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now versus the mayor before, the mayor now versus the
mayor before, this mayor has only been in office a
couple of years, complete one point eighty in the city
from that fentanyl fold that they're talking about at MacArthur
Park being all over the city, everywhere Union Square, around
the hospital where my mom was at, all of that
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is completely gone because the mayor came in and changed
a policy.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
It's really that simple.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
So one of the things that I mentioned this in
the in the breakdown after Tuesday night's debate, one of
the Republican strategists that they had discussing the governor's candidates
was basically whether or not a Republican is going to
win again in California or when, And he said he
doesn't think a Republican would win in this cycle, but
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it's gonna get bad enough that you're finally going to
get somebody in the Governor's mansion in Sacramento that is
running on the what the f are we doing? We
are ruining this place. And that's kind of what Daniel
Lurie did when he was running for mayor of San
Francisco is our policies have broken what should be the
shining city on the hill literally for northern California. And
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he has to a degree. I mean, we've seen it
written up many times like wait a minute, why is
San Francisco doing so great in LA looks like an
absolute toilet bowl. Well, it's because of policies like that. Yeah,
where it finally took someone with common sense, someone who
wasn't going to be motivated by feelings.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
And guess what a Democrat.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (16:50):
Also with that Bigurian Shannon Jeff calling here originally from Irvine,
California and now living in Madrids, Spain, having worked in
the public sector for twenty five years before retiring. I
got to tell you a lot of money originally earmarked
for road improvements and road maintenance has been diverted to
the general fund for social programs. That's why they have
to keep raising taxes and raise money for the roads
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because the money originally earmarked for the roads all went
into the general fund for all those great social programs
we have in California. I remember, love you guys listening
on the iHeartMedia, Appy.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Appreciate that call or talk back, because that is true.
I remember when I was a reporter in Sacramento and
there was legislation on the table to stop that, to
stop taking the revenue and the tax dollars meant for
the roads and funneling them into the general fund. Right now,
I don't know what I thought it was. This was
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also twenty five years ago.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
You don't trust your own memory.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
So that could have happened twenty five years ago and
then changed back to the way it is where everyone's
just robbing Peter to pay Paul with the state tax dollars.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
And we can't we can't just ascribe to somebody who
says they're in public service politicians, state assembly members, state
Senate members, governor whatever. We can't just ascribe to them
good positive qualities they're out to for. We can't just
assume they're out for our best situations. I guess for
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our best interests because the amount of cover up that
goes on in different agencies, from whether it's closing the
books on high speed rail as one example, closing the
books on the Capital annex they're talking about. I mean,
President Trump gets a lot of high profile criticism for
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what he wants to do with the White House in Sacramento.
At the Capitol Building, they've been working on a project
there for ten years that they don't want people looking
into the numbers for.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
It's a business. That's why they call it state business.
They're running a business up there. This is not a nonprofit.
This is not a state capital filled with do gooders.
They're all looking to make money and there's nothing wrong
with that. But don't pretend that you're just out to
make life better when you're out there to line your
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own pocket.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
And it's so clear. Stop lying about.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
It, Katie Porter stuff. When we come back, Gary and
Shannon will continue. I just want to I just want
to set you up because I don't want you to
I don't want to surprise you with that waking up
next to that. It's going to be tough, and I
just want you.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I quit drinking.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Oh let me do this one first. Well, we'll do it.
I also have viaa Goosa and Besarah going back at
each other. You're waking up, Ala, I'm telling you.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
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Speaker 4 (19:52):
Leave us a talkback message. Tell us what you thought
of either the governor's debate mayor's debate. We'll talk more
about the meeting between Spencer Pratt, Nathi Ram and Karen
Bass coming up next hour, but we've been discussing what
happened in the governor's debate last night. It was only
an hour long. I saw it referred to as kind
of an encore from the night before. The night before
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on CNN, they were able to talk for a couple
of hours and get some points across and try to
get into some of the specifics, and then last night
maybe try to clean up whatever mess they made the
night before, try to score some of the points that
they missed. And Toni Vioregoso last night, former mayor of
course of the City of La former Assembly speaker. He
was more aggressive than we saw on the first night.
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He's in that place where pulling in the single digit
you gotta kind of scratch and claw and do something
to rise above the fray. We saw Matt Mahon, the
other mayor in the race do that same thing. But
last night, Viara Gosa went after Javier, are.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
You proud that you pushed out eighty five thousand migrant children?
They were according to the New York Times, they were maimed,
they were exploited, they were some were even killed. You said,
those are maga talking points. It's a maga hoax. Tell
that to the children who died. So I'm not sure
what that had to do with homelessness.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
He was just sitting on that too, truth, which is annoying.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Proud to do it. They had a hard time keeping that,
keeping that together, like.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
He was just sitting on that. In case Via Regosa comes.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
After you, the one other Latino on the stage right
dropped that.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
I saw an interesting stat in the La Times about
Latino voters being the biggest block in California, but also
the least likely to vote in the primary. Is something
like twenty one percent of the block votes. And I
believe in primaries it is hard for people to get
excited about a primary. It is most people didn't even
know the debates were happening, or there's a governor's race
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going on.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
Katie Porter, former congress woman, was on the stage last
night and was still trying to She's still battling this
image that she is a beast of a human being.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Now, I didn't see it, and I do believe seeing
the debate and hearing the debate are two different things,
and nobody will tell you that more than people who
are dead like Nixon and Kennedy, but people who are
dead when I have very different reactions to any debate
seeing it versus hearing it.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
So I've only heard this one.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
But the way she came across when I watched her
in the first debate was very composed, checking all the boxes,
doing the right things, keeping the beast asleep.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Knowing that that was what the images of her.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Yes, hearing this one, the beast is out and it
is not likable.
Speaker 7 (22:46):
I think we ought to enforce the existing sanctuary laws
everywhere so we don't have crazy cowboys taking the law
into their own. Tell that to a crazy mother who
lost her child, sir, I don't need any lectures from
you about being a mother.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Of course you might, okay.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
So first of all, he wasn't talking about Katie Porter
losing her child. He was talking about a woman in
his district who lost her fourteen year old son to
a drunk driver who had been arrested and convicted twice
before here illegally and is free again to go out
drive drunk and kill that little boy. And that's who
he was talking about, courted twice before. Yeah, well, yeah,
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that's what he was talking about. Furthermore, yeah, never mind,
you can.
Speaker 8 (23:29):
Again.
Speaker 7 (23:31):
All you have done this evening is shout past me
and not given me a chance to respond.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
That was obviously a scripted answer that didn't fit.
Speaker 6 (23:40):
But go ahead, but please, I'm sorry everybody.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
Well, I'm not at the beginning.
Speaker 7 (23:45):
Euse me for this. I'm not going to be lectured
because I have not interrupted a single I.
Speaker 6 (23:50):
Understand core the floor.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Furthermore, I'll just finish this. Furthermore, you don't get to
play mother of the year. Listen, I am not a parent.
I have to say that whenever I say something like this,
because it is true. But you don't get to play
mother of the year. When you threw a pot of
boiling water on your husband potatoes potatoes, potatoes, Well, potatoes
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need water to to get hot, don't they. Weren't they
hot potatoes?
Speaker 4 (24:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Yeah, they were. She poured that on that man's head.
The father of her children.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
That's insane.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
It is insane.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
That's like bunnies away. Freaking Glenn Close is around the
bend crazy.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
I will say this. It goes to her character. I
would prefer I would prefer to have somebody with good
character in the office. But to be honest, that's not
a requirement.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
I am crazy. I've never done that. I can say
that is a woman. I'm not a mother, but I
know crazy and that's beyond the pail.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
She didn't nothing to help herself last night, and after
watching all of this, it felt like it felt like
Chad Bianco and Steve Hilton have buried whatever hatchet existed
between the two of them. And to be honest, it
feels like I don't know what's going on. If Chad
Bianco dropped out today, Steve Hilton immediately gets a bump
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of eight, ten, twelve percent because Republicans who would go
for Chad Bianco will go for for the most part,
the other Republican in the race, who is Steve Hilton.
That would boost that campaign significantly, don't I don't know
if that's gonna happen. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
But are Republicans split evenly between those two or what's
the breakdown there?
Speaker 4 (25:45):
For weeks they were even at about fourteen or fifteen
percent a piece. Steve Hilton has pulled ahead and Chad
Bianco has dropped back a couple of points. It's not
a fifty to fifty split at least by the last
two or three polls that we've seen, but it would
be something significant. Javeirba Sarah still or I should say
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again the leader. But it's because the machine. It's because
of the title wave that is, the Democratic Party that's behind.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Him, and the fact that he was even in trouble
with the Biden administration. Remember he was sidelined during covid
as in human services.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
I think because he was just really inept. I don't
even know if they are bad decisions.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
There's also that this is KFI. You've been listening to
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I AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on
demand on the iHeartRadio app. I don't understand in a
state like California, how you can't find a intelligent Democrat
to take the crown. I get the whole Joe Biden
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elected in dementia, it was his turn. We can we
can put clouds and smoke and mirrors and weekend at
Bernie's the first term through this right, I get that
kind of But California, which is supposed to be the
Democratic homeland, the beautiful blue state, the side of the
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other shining sea, and you're gonna you're gonna elect a
brain stem person with seven to nine brain cells. Listening
to Javier Bessera talk about the fact that he will
not eliminate the gas tax because.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
What are we gonna do about the roads? Again, No,
it doesn't make any sense. Gary.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
It's driving me. It's driving me crazy. And I may
say a bad word, but like when he says, I'm
surprised that people want to get rid of the gas tax.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
What are we going to do about the roads? How
the f does Kansas fix their roads? They don't have
the gas tax? How about Oklahoma, sir? Okay? How about
any other state that does better than California period and
fixing their roads without a gas tax? How did they
do it?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (01:39):
They just use the tax dollars that we already give them.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
What do you mean, how are we going to fix
the road? That makes no sense?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
And the fact that people take that argument and they
put a spoon in it and they ef and eat
it is insane to me, Like any thought having person
would be like.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
What are you talking about out? How did we fix.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
The roads in California before the gas tax? All the
big beautiful freeways that were built in the fifties and sixties,
There was no gas tax to pay for that.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
You know what they use?
Speaker 1 (02:10):
They used tax dollars. Why isn't anyone pushing back on that?
I don't understand?
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Can I ask you that? Just a quick side question?
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yes, I had too much coffee and I apologize.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
No, No, it's totally fine. It's totally fine. I just
now know we need to treat today a little softer.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I've heard a couple clips of Javier Bessera this morning,
and it just got me fired up. Because we've seen
this happen time and time again. And if this is
where all the Democrats think tanks exist in California, you
think you'd get the best Democrat running for governor of California, right,
like the best one, the shining star. Hey all even
given Gavin Newsom a bone. They love him for president, right?
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So yeah, he was a good Democrat, looks good on camera,
talks to talk. I don't believe in a thing he says,
but he seems to have that power over people.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
So he's the character.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Great.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
But Javier Bessera again another brainstem? What are we doing?
Speaker 5 (03:12):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (03:13):
This was exemplified last night's governor's debate seven people on stage.
Javier Bessera considered to be one of the front runners
and was obviously the target of a bunch of people
last night. Still gives me the impression that there's, like
you said, there is not a lot going on.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Nothing there there's no original If there is original thought,
it's been beaten down by the democratic system for too long.
And I love the way that Via Ragosa and Matt
Mayhem came out and put him on blast. Matt mayhean
has to do something because he's flat in the polls.
He had to come out on the attack and I
love that for him. Unfortunately, in the primary, where you
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have to hoard to all the Democrats.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
That's going to get him nowhere.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
He needs to save that attack for if he became
one of the two standing.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Right.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
That's like, you know, the the November election stuff, when
you can move to the moderate side, you know, like
you're your litmus test of if you're in favor of
seeing high speed rail through, I'm never going to vote
for you. Well, at this stage in the primary, they
all have to support it, and that's what you saw
last night.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Well, yeah, specifically, here's the high speed rail question. Do
you fit a ship, yes or no?
Speaker 6 (04:19):
Mayor Vira Gosa, Yes, a congresslom quarter.
Speaker 7 (04:23):
Yes, if you can build it faster and cheaper than
it's been projected.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Okay, Sheriff Bianco, No.
Speaker 6 (04:28):
I would rather arrest the people that stole our money,
all right.
Speaker 8 (04:32):
Are illegal spending tax phase money on pointless things. And
I improve our roads, which are the worst in the
country because of.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Democrats, mister Style.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Yes, we need a Secretary of Sepretation, public speed.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
Delivery of high speed real little bit, a high speed
delivery of high speed reil.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Yes, what does that mean?
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Well, means get.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
This litigation. We try to make it your desk. Do
you say yes or do you veto? I love angry
Conan Nolan.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
Is that to me?
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Yes, Yes, I need to.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
I want to do it the way it's been done
because we've overspent.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
But yes, we're gonna build. Yes, we're going to build
speed rail.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
See it's not send it back to the legislature and
say fixed, sequel, reduce litigation risk, let's fix the regulatory environment,
and then I'll sign the bill.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
It's like Cardi b says, it's the principle, right, It's
not about the train anymore. It's about the democratic machine
that has pushed this thing through. And are you going
to rubber stamp it as we continue, or are you
gonna get rid of it? Or are you going to
be Matt Mayhon and say all right, I like the
idea of a train, but let's scrap all this crap.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
What's funny is that the range of answers into seven people.
So you have Via Ragosa, you have Katie Porter, that
you have Tom Stott. The Republicans immediately say no, and
Chad Bianco's line, I'd rather arrest the people who stole
the money. Tom Steyer says something ridiculous like, yes, we
need public transportation, idiot, that's not what this is.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
He I'm done listening to him talk. What a waste
of money. He should have saved the the you know,
he should have built more wildlife crossings or something with
his money.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Million dollars.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
What a waste, What a waste of money.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I mean that that alone should be the case for
for what is it called reform when it comes to
how much money you spend in elections, elections spending, reform whatever,
Because my God, and and well, I mean, we can
talk all day about this, but like the fact that
he spent one hundred million dollars as a Democrat on
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a self serving I want to be governor mission. Doesn't
that fly in the face is doing good for the people? Like,
if you really cared as a Democrat for people, wouldn't
you take that hundred million and pour it into, you know,
the pockets of your friends that pretend to do things
about the homeless.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
The irony is he's a billionaire. That's a stinky label
when you're in California and that he's a progressive guy
is all so a good label, but he's got to
pay all of his billions to make the billionaire label
go away. It doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
We haven't even gotten into the private prisons he profited from.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Or the oil companies like that stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
But he isn't walking. He's a hypocrite. He's awful.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
I don't even know why they're giving him a place
on the stage other than he bought himself in.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
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Speaker 1 (07:34):
I didn't like that the way that Bessara went after
via ra Gosa with the commentation.
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I love that we try to make each other feel better.
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Speaker 5 (08:35):
From last time with Shannon.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Wouldn't it be cheaper to just give everybody a four
wheel drive.
Speaker 9 (08:41):
Vehicle so they could get through the potholes and get
rid of the gas tacks.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
I mean that sounds like a good plan to me.
Speaker 9 (08:48):
Let's go off roading on our daily.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Commute, right Who even needs freeways at this point?
Speaker 1 (08:54):
It's just wild to get by. It's just wild that
they continue to hold this gas tax fixes our roads fallacy.
It's completely blowney, That's what our taxpayer dollars should.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Go to number one.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
It's police, fire, roads, water, That's what our tax dollars
are originally meant for. And then you get all the extras.
Right then you get to talk about trains, when when
they're so homeless on the streets and the roads are
full and they don't break your car on the way
to work, then you get to talk about fun things
like trains. But right now, just do your primary function
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with the tax dollars, and that's police, firewater, roads.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
You and I both California natives, live for most of
our lives. Right I don't ever remember there being a
large clamor call for a transit corridor between Los Angeles
and San Francisco. Now maybe I wasn't old enough to.
(09:56):
I don't know. I don't ever I five one oh one,
they're all. There are ways to get the Southwest airlines,
there are ways to get from LA to San franciscoing
back and forth.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
We disagree on this because I love the idea of
a high speed rail train from San Francisco to Los Angeles.
I've taken the high speed rail trains in Europe.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
I love them. They're super cool. But that's never what
this was going to be. First of all, it was
never going to be high speed. Logistically, it was not
going to be a high speed rail. It was going
to be slow speed.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Second of all, like I said, I'd love to talk
about that, I'd love to get a train, but before
we run, we have to walk.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
We need to get the potholes fixed on the five
through Burbank, for example.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
We need to get those basic taxpayer needs funded before
we can talk about the electives and all of that.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
It's just common sense.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
And like the fact that they keep saying, well, look
at these roads, that's what it goes to.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Our roads are s our roads, suck.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
We are last in the nation or damn near last
when it comes to the roads. And maybe that's because, yes,
we have a car culture here and we drive on
them more and there's more people. Right, Well, then put
more tax dollars towards the roads.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
But yes, and that's one of the arguments existing time
we have so many cars, we have the driving culture
that does not exist in other places, which is totally true.
But with every single car comes registration and in many
other states that's plenty. That's plenty of income to keep
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and maintain update and improve the road infrastructure that exists.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
My registration is enough for rent for a family of four, right,
Like our registration fees are insane, and why is it?
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Are our roads The vast majority of our roads in
California are not destroyed by seasons, right, They're not destroyed
by snow and ice like they are in other parts. Yes,
there are some up north and in the Sierra. Yeah,
I get that there are some. But for a place
like I fly through Burbank, even even with the number
of vehicles that go through I five through Burbank every
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single day, it's an easier road to maintain than say
Highway eighty nine or Highway thirty two or Highway thirty
six or one of these places that goes to the
foothills in sierras. Those are harder to maintain because there
is weather, there are other factors. This thing should have
been easy. There are some of the easy wins that
they need to take. But the state has regulations. The
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state has all of these different contract regulations. Yeah, the
state has different rules about who they pay and how
they pay. So everything, everything, even government contracts, is going
to be more expensive.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Why was the five in nor Walk under construction for
seventeen years.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
You want us to open up the books. We'll open
up the books, find out why projects take so long
with Caltrans or whatever is it the contracts? What is
slowing things down? It's got to be your bureaucracy.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
I mean, ah that Steve Hilton summed this up halfway
through the debate last night.
Speaker 8 (12:54):
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over
and over again and expecting a different result. Well, here
in California, we've been voting Democrat over and over and
over and over again, and look at the results he made.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
That makes that point every single time.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
And and the thing that I do have a problem, well,
there's so many problems. But it's not just party. It's
not just Democrats or Republicans. It's it's just the way
that we're stuck in thinking. It's the way that all
Democrats look at Matt Mayhan and think, oh, he's a
Republican because he wants to get rid of the gas moderate,
or how all Republicans look at any Democrat who says
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they want to keep high speedrail and say, well, then
get rid of them. It's like there are certain Pavlovs
dogs sirens to both sides that they just stop listening
to each other once they hear certain things just for
the principle of them. High speed rail is one of them,
and I get that, but also.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Well when we come back, Yeah, Katie Portering, it is
so unlikable and it's showing.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
I mean she I was wondering. I was like, when
are the cracks gonna break? Because the first debate she
was perfectly composed, and slowly it's eroded and outcomes the monster.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Gary and Shannon will continue.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
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Speaker 4 (14:22):
Why don't want you to hold it too long? We're
talking about last night's governor's debate on NVC.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
Hey, Shannon is spot on. For far too long, Californians
have been trained to accept that we have a revenue
problem instead of a spending problem. The legislature has lost
sight of the priorities basic services and infrastructure over the
social issues of the day or their vision of the future.
It's really time to get them back to the basics.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Yanks and you know, and we'll get into the mayor's
debate coming up in the next hour. But look, no
further than San Francisco and the turnaround San Francisco says,
I don't know if you've been up there, but San
Francisco now, And I only know because my mom had
medical stuff, so I was in the city. But like
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now versus the mayor before, the mayor now versus the
mayor before, this mayor has only been in office a
couple of years, complete one point eighty in the city
from that fentanyl fold that they're talking about at MacArthur
Park being all over the city, everywhere Union Square, around
the hospital where my mom was at, all of that
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is completely gone because the mayor came in and changed
a policy.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
It's really that simple.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
So one of the things that I mentioned this in
the in the breakdown after Tuesday night's debate, one of
the Republican strategists that they had discussing the governor's candidates
was basically whether or not a Republican is going to
win again in California or when, And he said he
doesn't think a Republican would win in this cycle, but
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it's gonna get bad enough that you're finally going to
get somebody in the Governor's mansion in Sacramento that is
running on the what the f are we doing? We
are ruining this place. And that's kind of what Daniel
Lurie did when he was running for mayor of San
Francisco is our policies have broken what should be the
shining city on the hill literally for northern California. And
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he has to a degree. I mean, we've seen it
written up many times like wait a minute, why is
San Francisco doing so great in LA looks like an
absolute toilet bowl. Well, it's because of policies like that. Yeah,
where it finally took someone with common sense, someone who
wasn't going to be motivated by feelings.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
And guess what a Democrat.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (16:50):
Also with that Bigurian Shannon Jeff calling here originally from Irvine,
California and now living in Madrids, Spain, having worked in
the public sector for twenty five years before retiring. I
got to tell you a lot of money originally earmarked
for road improvements and road maintenance has been diverted to
the general fund for social programs. That's why they have
to keep raising taxes and raise money for the roads
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because the money originally earmarked for the roads all went
into the general fund for all those great social programs
we have in California. I remember, love you guys listening
on the iHeartMedia, Appy.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Appreciate that call or talk back, because that is true.
I remember when I was a reporter in Sacramento and
there was legislation on the table to stop that, to
stop taking the revenue and the tax dollars meant for
the roads and funneling them into the general fund. Right now,
I don't know what I thought it was. This was
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also twenty five years ago.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
You don't trust your own memory.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
So that could have happened twenty five years ago and
then changed back to the way it is where everyone's
just robbing Peter to pay Paul with the state tax dollars.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
And we can't we can't just ascribe to somebody who
says they're in public service politicians, state assembly members, state
Senate members, governor whatever. We can't just ascribe to them
good positive qualities they're out to for. We can't just
assume they're out for our best situations. I guess for
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our best interests because the amount of cover up that
goes on in different agencies, from whether it's closing the
books on high speed rail as one example, closing the
books on the Capital annex they're talking about. I mean,
President Trump gets a lot of high profile criticism for
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what he wants to do with the White House in Sacramento.
At the Capitol Building, they've been working on a project
there for ten years that they don't want people looking
into the numbers for.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
It's a business. That's why they call it state business.
They're running a business up there. This is not a nonprofit.
This is not a state capital filled with do gooders.
They're all looking to make money and there's nothing wrong
with that. But don't pretend that you're just out to
make life better when you're out there to line your
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own pocket.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
And it's so clear. Stop lying about.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
It, Katie Porter stuff. When we come back, Gary and
Shannon will continue. I just want to I just want
to set you up because I don't want you to
I don't want to surprise you with that waking up
next to that. It's going to be tough, and I
just want you.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I quit drinking.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Oh let me do this one first. Well, we'll do it.
I also have viaa Goosa and Besarah going back at
each other. You're waking up, Ala, I'm telling you.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
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Speaker 4 (19:52):
Leave us a talkback message. Tell us what you thought
of either the governor's debate mayor's debate. We'll talk more
about the meeting between Spencer Pratt, Nathi Ram and Karen
Bass coming up next hour, but we've been discussing what
happened in the governor's debate last night. It was only
an hour long. I saw it referred to as kind
of an encore from the night before. The night before
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on CNN, they were able to talk for a couple
of hours and get some points across and try to
get into some of the specifics, and then last night
maybe try to clean up whatever mess they made the
night before, try to score some of the points that
they missed. And Toni Vioregoso last night, former mayor of
course of the City of La former Assembly speaker. He
was more aggressive than we saw on the first night.
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He's in that place where pulling in the single digit
you gotta kind of scratch and claw and do something
to rise above the fray. We saw Matt Mahon, the
other mayor in the race do that same thing. But
last night, Viara Gosa went after Javier, are.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
You proud that you pushed out eighty five thousand migrant children?
They were according to the New York Times, they were maimed,
they were exploited, they were some were even killed. You said,
those are maga talking points. It's a maga hoax. Tell
that to the children who died. So I'm not sure
what that had to do with homelessness.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
He was just sitting on that too, truth, which is annoying.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Proud to do it. They had a hard time keeping that,
keeping that together, like.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
He was just sitting on that. In case Via Regosa comes.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
After you, the one other Latino on the stage right
dropped that.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
I saw an interesting stat in the La Times about
Latino voters being the biggest block in California, but also
the least likely to vote in the primary. Is something
like twenty one percent of the block votes. And I
believe in primaries it is hard for people to get
excited about a primary. It is most people didn't even
know the debates were happening, or there's a governor's race
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going on.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
Katie Porter, former congress woman, was on the stage last
night and was still trying to She's still battling this
image that she is a beast of a human being.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Now, I didn't see it, and I do believe seeing
the debate and hearing the debate are two different things,
and nobody will tell you that more than people who
are dead like Nixon and Kennedy, but people who are
dead when I have very different reactions to any debate
seeing it versus hearing it.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
So I've only heard this one.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
But the way she came across when I watched her
in the first debate was very composed, checking all the boxes,
doing the right things, keeping the beast asleep.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Knowing that that was what the images of her.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Yes, hearing this one, the beast is out and it
is not likable.
Speaker 7 (22:46):
I think we ought to enforce the existing sanctuary laws
everywhere so we don't have crazy cowboys taking the law
into their own. Tell that to a crazy mother who
lost her child, sir, I don't need any lectures from
you about being a mother.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Of course you might, okay.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
So first of all, he wasn't talking about Katie Porter
losing her child. He was talking about a woman in
his district who lost her fourteen year old son to
a drunk driver who had been arrested and convicted twice
before here illegally and is free again to go out
drive drunk and kill that little boy. And that's who
he was talking about, courted twice before. Yeah, well, yeah,
(23:23):
that's what he was talking about. Furthermore, yeah, never mind,
you can.
Speaker 8 (23:29):
Again.
Speaker 7 (23:31):
All you have done this evening is shout past me
and not given me a chance to respond.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
That was obviously a scripted answer that didn't fit.
Speaker 6 (23:40):
But go ahead, but please, I'm sorry everybody.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
Well, I'm not at the beginning.
Speaker 7 (23:45):
Euse me for this. I'm not going to be lectured
because I have not interrupted a single I.
Speaker 6 (23:50):
Understand core the floor.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Furthermore, I'll just finish this. Furthermore, you don't get to
play mother of the year. Listen, I am not a parent.
I have to say that whenever I say something like this,
because it is true. But you don't get to play
mother of the year. When you threw a pot of
boiling water on your husband potatoes potatoes, potatoes, Well, potatoes
(24:15):
need water to to get hot, don't they. Weren't they
hot potatoes?
Speaker 4 (24:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Yeah, they were. She poured that on that man's head.
The father of her children.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
That's insane.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
It is insane.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
That's like bunnies away. Freaking Glenn Close is around the
bend crazy.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
I will say this. It goes to her character. I
would prefer I would prefer to have somebody with good
character in the office. But to be honest, that's not
a requirement.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
I am crazy. I've never done that. I can say
that is a woman. I'm not a mother, but I
know crazy and that's beyond the pail.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
She didn't nothing to help herself last night, and after
watching all of this, it felt like it felt like
Chad Bianco and Steve Hilton have buried whatever hatchet existed
between the two of them. And to be honest, it
feels like I don't know what's going on. If Chad
Bianco dropped out today, Steve Hilton immediately gets a bump
(25:23):
of eight, ten, twelve percent because Republicans who would go
for Chad Bianco will go for for the most part,
the other Republican in the race, who is Steve Hilton.
That would boost that campaign significantly, don't I don't know
if that's gonna happen. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
But are Republicans split evenly between those two or what's
the breakdown there?
Speaker 4 (25:45):
For weeks they were even at about fourteen or fifteen
percent a piece. Steve Hilton has pulled ahead and Chad
Bianco has dropped back a couple of points. It's not
a fifty to fifty split at least by the last
two or three polls that we've seen, but it would
be something significant. Javeirba Sarah still or I should say
(26:06):
again the leader. But it's because the machine. It's because
of the title wave that is, the Democratic Party that's behind.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Him, and the fact that he was even in trouble
with the Biden administration. Remember he was sidelined during covid
as in human services.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
I think because he was just really inept. I don't
even know if they are bad decisions.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
There's also that this is KFI. You've been listening to
the Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
You can always hear us live on KFI AM six
forty nine am to noon every Monday through Friday, and
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