December 4, 2025 • 33 mins
Today’s #SwampWatch breaks down the latest political drama out of D.C. We also touch on new weather changes following the recent vortex shift—nothing extreme, but enough to notice. Marc Saltzman joins for Tech Talk, bringing the latest updates from the gadget world. And we wrap with a look at how short-form videos might actually be making us dumber, or at least a lot more distractible.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to k
if I Am six forty the Gary and Shannon Show
on demand on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Justin Herbert and your Chargers taking on Jalen Hurts and
the Eagles coming up on Monday Night football that is
a few days away from now. You could be there
live at SOFI Stadium. Get your tickets at Chargers dot
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k if I am six forty, Go Bolts. We will
also before the end of the show today be giving
you an opportunity to win a pair of tickets to
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the Chargers game. Monday night football game against the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
That is going to be a good time and people
are starting you know, Eagles fans are a little nonplused
with what's what's going on this season. So I'm an
Eagles fan. Friend, yesterday you go to the game. No,
I'm not going to go to the game. I'm likes
I should go to Monday Night. It's a winnable game.
Now people are got tickets today. He and his wife
(00:55):
are going to go. I mean, it's it's hard when
when Primetime come to town, and you don't go you
know what I mean, like you're missing out. It's fomo,
Hey Gas, Lindsay from Las Vegas.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Hey Gary, did you know that they have a song
out about you know? It's fittingly called Gary and it's
about how basically parents don't name their kids Gary anymore.
I've been not very many, so check it out.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
It's by Stevid Wilson Junior.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
It's actually a really great song, but I do think
you'll get a little bit of a chuckle out of it.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
So interesting, enjoy. I'd like to have thirty Gary these
days been lying in his bed name.
Speaker 6 (01:40):
Working on the same car, going on my decade.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Scribbles on John Down don't draw attention.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Scribbles And an older stood and I mentioned.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
The boy's name Gary these Days.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
This is an awful song.
Speaker 6 (02:06):
Anything a hammer can see them all along because a
Gary dome gamble, He doesn't They got the song and
could do form out.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
This?
Speaker 4 (02:19):
What is Who is this guy that wrote this? It's awful?
Speaker 6 (02:22):
Step a boy's name Gary these days?
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Oh my goodness. Who who gets in the car and
puts that on?
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Apparently he performed it on Jimmy Kimmel just the other night.
I've never heard that before.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
All right, So we turn to what is seemingly gripping
the country, and it's not going any aware away anytime soon,
and it is right in time for the holidays, which
making it worse since highlighting it is the affordability crisis,
and Trump is trying to tackle.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
This is where we kick off swamp watch.
Speaker 7 (02:53):
I'm a politician, which means I'm a cheat and a liar,
and when I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing their lollipops.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah, we got the real problem is that our leaders
are done.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
The other side never quits.
Speaker 7 (03:04):
So what I'm not going anywhere? So that is how
you train the squat.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
I can imagine what can be and be unburdened by
what has been. You know, Mrvans have always been going
at president. They're not stupid.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
A political flunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Whether people voted for you were not.
Speaker 7 (03:22):
Swap watch.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
They're all counternoed.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
So you know this.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
You know this if you do the grocery shopping and
your family prices are out of control, and they have
been for five six years now. A new polling shows
about forty six percent of people say the cost of
living in the US is the worst they can ever
remember it being. That includes thirty seven percent of Trump voters. Now,
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it's not a who's in the white House problem, although
whoever's in the White House always takes the credit.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Or the heat for the economy. It's just the way
things are.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
We know that the President is going to start aggressively
campaigning in some key battleground states against this, against the
affordability crisis. I guess you could say, trying to highlight
his economic agenda ahead of the midterms. On Tuesday, I
believe he's going to be in northeastern Pennsylvania, up in
(04:14):
Joe Biden's territory in the Scranton area, to push back
on these frustrations that everybody has. One of the things
that he's going to focus on is gas prices, which
recently fell below three dollars nationwide average for the first
time in the last four years. But this new CBS
News poll to the some of those same numbers that
(04:35):
you're talking about, showed that seventy seven percent of people
surveyed believe the president is not spending enough time focused
on the economy and those rising prices.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
He has called this a hoax.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
By the way, now this is not a Trump centric
issue when it comes to being tone deaf about the economy.
Every president is tone deaf about the economy because every
president hasn't gone grocery sho for decades. Probably they have
no idea, and Trump among them.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
I mean, you know, you.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Could say, oh, well, he's a rich guy's from New York,
he's a you know, a building magnet, blah blah blah.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Well one's the least anything. Joe Biden went grocery shopping.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
I mean, it's not a Democrat, Republican, rich guy, poor guy,
every man president versus business guy president.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
It's political elite versus everybody else bingo.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
And you cannot call it a hoax because it is
obvious to all of us who spend money on a
daily basis, on just everyday items, how ridiculous it's gotten.
And you know what, if it's this bad and people
are complaining about it, and it's risen to your level
in the Oval office, it's landed on your desk. The
better way, the Trump, the more Trump way to do it.
(05:47):
It's just like, hey, I inherited this. This is Biden's mess.
I see that you're all suffering. This sucks. I've heard
about your growth.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Yeah, I've heard about your grocery bills. This sucks.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
I inherited this and we're working on it. Pulling it
a hoax rubs me the wrong.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Way, Which is funny because he did both things. On Tuesday,
during that cabinet meeting they had, he did say it
was a hoax.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
He said, it's a fake narrative.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
The Democrats talk about it and it doesn't mean anything
to anybody. And then he says, I inherited the worst
inflation in history. There was no affordability. Nobody could afford anything.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
It's like you talking about menopause.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Just sit it out, Trump talking about affordability at the
grocery store.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Just sit it out.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
I'll be over here if you need me. When you
start talking about something I know something about. The FBI
just wrapped up its news conference a short time ago
announcing the arrest of a suspect and their investigation into
two pipe bombs, or into pipe bombs I should say,
planted near the Republican and Democratic National Party headquarters in
DC on January fifth, twenty one, just before the January
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sixth attack on the Capitol Brian Cole Junior identified as
the suspect.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
He's been charged with use of an explosive device.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Of course, this is not something the pipes themselves did
not detonate, but a couple of the different officials that
took to the podium said that these could have been
devastating had they actually had they actually gone off. And
one of the things that Dan Bongino, Deputy director of
the FBI said was they this isn't new.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Information that came in.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
This was basically just rehashing the information that they have
had for the last five years or so and were
able to identify him as a suspect.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Again, this is Brian Cole Junior.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
His father's business apparently was surrounded, as was the home
that he's been living in family home. The FBI was
taking things from parked cars that were outside. Not a
lot known about this guy. I saw a couple of
descriptors of him saying that he was an avowed anarchist
living in Virginia, but other than that, not no real
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specific target that he was going after or motive necessarily
in terms of what he was doing.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
The polar vortex is coming. We'll tell you where the
frigid temperatures will hit. It's not just a polar dick
of what polar? What triple dip polar vortex?
Speaker 3 (08:14):
That's what it. How could you even see it? If cold?
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
If can we just go to the dudes?
Speaker 3 (08:23):
We could, but I want to just sit on this
for a second.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
I would not like to.
Speaker 7 (08:29):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
There was also that story about a seventeen year old
kid killed by fireworks.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Did you hear about that?
Speaker 4 (08:40):
No?
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Down backyard fireworks is what they're suggesting, or at least
illegal fireworks, not that he necessarily homemade them, but was
trying to or was going to show off and ended
up getting hit right in the chest. Fighter jet with
the Air Force Thunderbirds demonstration squadrons crashed out in the
desert in San Bernardino count The pilot was able to
(09:02):
eject safely. The Air Force, as the pilot did suffer
non life threatening injuries. Also got a poll from Emerson
College release today about showing the front runners for both
parties when it comes to California's governor's race for next year.
The polling data commissioned by Next Star and Inside California
Politics shows that Riverside County Sheriff Chad Bianco has about
(09:22):
a one point lead right now over former Fox News
host Steve Hilton in that poll. That's a switch of
about six points. Hilton was ahead for a while in
other polls. Chad Bianco had been polling above him, but
this is the first time he has. In the Emerson
College poll, and then on the Democratic side, Congressman Eric
Swalwell is now leading over a former congresswoman Katie Porter
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by one point, and then the rest In the Democrat side,
Via Ragosa gets five percent, Tom Steyer gets four percent,
Javier Basera gets four percent. The key, though still thirty
one percent of voters in this poll described themselves as
undecided for governor next year.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
We give a pair of tickets away.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
We could do totally do that, ja, I am ready
to go.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Okay, how about color number?
Speaker 3 (10:09):
What do you want? I want color number seven today?
Speaker 4 (10:12):
WHOA you are not feeling well?
Speaker 3 (10:14):
It's just it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
I'm worried. I'm worried now color number seven.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
How about a pair of tickets to go see Monday
night football? So far under the Lights, Chargers taking on
the Eagles, two desperate teams hoping to cling higher on
to the seat in the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
My voice got a little gravelly there.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Eight hundred five to zero one five three four, eight
hundred five to one KFI will pick up two tickets
to Monday night's game, Chargers hosting the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Isn't a while that we still have a landline?
Speaker 3 (10:54):
How else would we do it?
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Well, I'm just saying, there's going to come a time
when radio stations you don't have land lines. All the
other landlines in the building have been canceled except for
this one.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
That is true, isn't it. I guess all of our
there's no phone at those desks that we sit at.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
No, no, no, why would there be.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
It's not like anybody calls us.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
I mean, you still have your landline for no reason.
Nobody calls you. You kept it for your parents.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Yeah, well maybe they call again.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Trust me, that would be quite an that would be
quite an astounding feat if.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
In fact they did call on put them on the
line with the AI at list people. Right, A triple
dip polar vortex is coming. This is going to be
because not everybody who listens to the Gary and Shannon
Show lives in California.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
We know some of you are.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Affected by the bottle people and other places, many, many people, and.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
We should do a woe were you at Wednesday? Come
out next week.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
We'll do that next week.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
That's a great idea, yeah, because it's a reminder that
many people do get affected by the polar vortexes that
slam into this country the first of three this month.
What is a polar vortex? Excellent question. It's when surges
of Arctic air generate rounds of flurries and squalls in
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certain locations. They can assist igniting storms with more widespread
snow as well a supercharge your snowstorm. And there's gonna
be three rounds of these bad boys this winter. The
Upper Midwest and northern Plains have been hit by Canada's
freezing temperatures and today wind chills, oh my gosh, I
(12:34):
can't even wind chills between negative ten negative twenty five
degrees will be expected. I don't know what that feels like.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
No humans should feel they should know what that feels like.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
But coming up this is there's a football game in
Buffalo No, this weekend. No, I'm trying to find these
at Cleveland will probably be hit by this. Ohnesota's in
a tank, in a tank.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Minnesota is in a dome, so that's not a problem.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
The Jets are open air green Bay, Greeny.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
It's going to be in Buffalo m snow showers, thirty degrees.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
That's not bad.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Wind Buffalo fifteen miles per hour, that's not bad.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
That's okay.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
I mean that'll take your windshield down to the teens probably,
but that's still for Buffalo.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
That's a seam where they play.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
December Day, they play Cincinnati.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
Oh, Cincinnati, they're used to it.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
That'll be fine.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
What about the Browns are playing the Tennessee Titans.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
They're awful anyway, so this isn't going to hurt them.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
That's a good point, a good point.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
But Cleveland, they'll be used to it. That's what an
awful game that's going to be. And then the Dolphins
are playing the Jets in New Jersey.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
That's always a fun one.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
That's the one that could be. And then like I said,
Chicago is at Green Bay.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Oh my god, I am getting so cold hearing these things.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Green Bay, Wisconsin, middle of December in a polar vortex.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Oh my gosh, what am on on a Sunday after?
It's going to be for them?
Speaker 2 (14:09):
It's well, it's what Green Bay is two hours ahead
of us. Yeah, so it will be three three point
thirty in the afternoon when they start that game. So
it's gonna get colder, is it good?
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Oh? My goodness.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
The North Pole right now is covered by its own
polar vortex. This is a huge circular upper air weather
system in the Arctic. The normal pattern that tends to
contain the coldest weather close to the North Pole and
is stronger in the winter. And then what happens is
a portion of that polar vortex could break off or
just even drift to the south, which is what they're doing.
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What it's doing now, bringing the freezing weather to the
US and Europe and Asia Asia. Normally, the jet stream
that comes through locks the vortex in and keeps it there.
We also weather wise, I guess you could say, are
going to have some king tides today.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Parrot.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Again, I'm still not sure the pronunciation peagean or peragean.
Spring tides are back most commonly known as king tides.
They occur when the sun the Moon and the Earth
a line, and that increases the gravitational tug on the ocean.
Full moon is exerting its pull. Is the last super
moon of twenty twenty five, called the Cold Moon. But
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the King tides, they say, we'll continue today into tomorrow,
and then we'll be back January second and third. We'll
start to see some of these things, which actually in
southern California doesn't mean a whole lot, except that you
could see some more rip currents if you're out in
the water itself, if you're surfing, and there could be
some localized flooding in some of those lower areas, some
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of those beach communities they get regular flooding.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
They could see. Someone.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Is this going to affect us like a Mars in
retrograde situation?
Speaker 3 (15:48):
I don't know if that does you mean astrologically, I
don't know. Maybe that's what I feel right now.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Oh, maybe that's what's going on with you.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Maybe my Mars is in retro what'd you say, it's
not retribution?
Speaker 1 (16:02):
I think maybe this could be the beginning of the
end for you, the end of I mean just like
the end of your immune system really fighting.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
It's just going to give up after this.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
I don't know. I've never seen a give up like
this before.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Crap that you've brought in here that I've been able
to fend off. I think I'm okay.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
What are you talking about? The crato with the e
cole I that's not why you get that kidney failure.
That was love MD. The thyroid thing you can't get
trust me what that means.
Speaker 7 (16:36):
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Speaker 4 (16:54):
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Speaker 2 (17:01):
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Speaker 7 (17:09):
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Speaker 2 (17:14):
Mark Saltzman joins us on Thursday, as we talked about
the world of technology and as we get close to
the end of the year, a lot of our streaming
services will tell us the absolute worst music that we
have streamed over the course in the last year. And
Spotify is out with its new features. The twenty twenty
five wrapped Listener Recap that it tells you how much
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time you spend listening to Benson Boone.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
Yeah, exactly. It could be cringey when you look back,
but your musical taste shouldn't have changed that much within
a year. I mean, if it did, then you're you know,
very erratic. But yeah, you know, and it's funny. There's
been a couple of new things. Bad Buddy did eke
out Taylor Swift worldwide at the number one surprise, almost
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twenty billion streams billion with a B in the US though, yeah,
Taylor is still number one, but yeah, there's a you know,
you learn things about yourself. That's obviously Spotify's stats. Joe
Rogan had the number one podcast of course, Uh top
song was Bruno Mars and Lady Gagas died with a smile.
So some of that stuff's not too surprising. But yeah,
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your own stats, you're like, wow, I listened to a
lot of Bob Seeger that I'm younger than that as
what you might think. And now, funny enough, Spotify has
this musical age that they added this year or no, yeah,
so it will tell you based on your listening habits
and cross reference with the real age of other people
who listen to that song?
Speaker 3 (18:40):
What is your musical age?
Speaker 5 (18:42):
So people are reacting very finally on TikTok and on Instagram.
When they're either middle age but they have a listening
age of twenty, they're very proud to share that, but
when it's the other way around, they're not.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
So, you know, it's funny.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
I did my rap this morning and it said my
listening age was twenty five, and then it said share
to you story, and I.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Was like, how sad would that be if I did that?
Speaker 1 (19:03):
That was my first thought, Like, how sad if you're
like forty five and you're sharing that you're listening ages
twenty five? Like look, how young I am?
Speaker 4 (19:12):
Tragic, strategic.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
It was like a twenty five year old who was
almost in tears because their listening age was sixty seven.
Might explain my Bob Seeker thing for me too, But.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Yeah, Bob Seger is timeless.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
I'm partial to him.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Now.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
I've got very eclectic taste. I listened to EDM, I
listened to pop, I listened to classical. The number one
artist I stream this year is funny because rock is
not popular anymore. But I am a closet. Metal Head
is a band called Falling in Reverse. Oh hell yeah, yeah,
So I'm a fan of these guys and that was
my number one for my Spotify Rapped but yeah not.
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I mean they're popular in the genre, but rock is
about to make a big comeback, I think, mark my words.
Speaker 7 (19:53):
So yeah, so a lot of fun.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
And they also add Spotify added a new multiplayer game.
So there's always been a solo Spotify Rapped trivia game
based on your own listening habits, but for the first time,
you and nine others can play the Spotify Rapped Party
as it's called, where you compete with again ten people
in total, with questions based on your listening habits. It's
a multiplayer game through the app only, not through the website.
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But yeah, Spotify is really gamifying this end of year thing.
I think they're really trying to outdo YouTube. That also
has you know, your your your stats from the year,
so a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
They have another one called Top Artists Sprint. Well, it
shows you how quickly your favorite artists, like when did
you start streaming them?
Speaker 3 (20:36):
And then if.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
You like were totally obsessed with like an earworm song,
you know it'll maybe win your Top Artists Sprint on
within your own list, so it's fun that little recap.
So yeah, just go into the Spotify app if you're
listening to this and you want to know what you're
rapped looks like, and you'll find the word wrapped.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
You could just tap that.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
I'm totally with you and rock making a comeback because
it has not been very mainstream for a while, and
it's kind of like doing that cool grassroots, basement type,
small band, small venue resurgence, which means we're on tap
for something really good.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
Yeah, yeah, there are sorry, there are festivals as well, obviously, right,
and Ozzie's passing as sad and tragic as that was.
I mean, there were a lot of hard rock bands
playing at his tribute, you know, and of course Metallica is.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Timeless and all that.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
But I like these these these newer bands, even though
bands like Falling in Reverse are not new but new
to many, they're also doing collapse with famous people like
Jelly Roll and stuff, so they're they're gaining new audiences,
which is cool.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
And if speaking of smartphones, if you are trying to
access your Spotify unwrapped, you may have a much larger
device in your hands next year, at this time my
cheesy segue to the news.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Yeah, I'm glad we're bringing this up because I see
this as one of those offshoots of technology where yes,
it's possible that we can do this, but do we
really need it or should should we really do it?
Speaker 3 (22:06):
The Galaxy Z trifold phone.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
Right, So, we've seen this design overseas with brands like Huawei,
which is banned in the US. But this is a
what looks like a smartphone at first glance, but then
you pull it apart to become a tablet, and not
just a dual fold that they have now with a
Z fold as it's called, but a trifold, as the
(22:31):
name suggests, has three screens. Well, it's really one screen
that's foldable, and then you unfold it twice, kind of
like you know, like a front cover, and then you
pull back the back cover if you will, as if
you were holding a book, and it does turn into
a ten inch tablet. It is the largest screen ever
on a Samsung device. The idea is that you don't
need both a phone and a tablet when you've got
(22:52):
two in one and allegedly super thin. I haven't seen
it yet, I will at the Consumer Electronics Show in
a month a month from today, I'll be going, yeah,
but it's like under four millimeters thin, and then yeah,
it unfolds twice to become a ten inch tablet.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
But I hear what you're saying.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
Just because they can't do it doesn't mean they should.
Because Samsung has had issues in the past with foldable
devices with the screen all that wear and tear, but
they do rigorously test it. I can tell you I've
been to their head offices in Seoul, South Korea, and
they're really trying to turn that you know, negative press
around and really try to deliver something that can withstand
(23:29):
you know, five or eight years of folding by simulating
that kind of that you know, abuse on the phone.
So yeah, I mean it looks cool. The social media
has it's very polarized. Some are saying, you know, been there,
done that, this is not new. They're copying the Chinese
company companies that are doing this, and then others are like,
sign me up, I want it. You know, I'm sold,
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whereas you know, here's my money. But speaking of which
it will be anywhere, it could be up to three
thousand dollars for this phone. Is so yeah, and the
listeners saying between and three grand, which is a lot.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
So we will see.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
But yeah, well, the press here on this side of
the pond, we're going to get our hands on this.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Come uh uh January.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
At the big consumer electronics show in sin City, which
is yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Month, it's close. You should stop buying.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
Say hi, yeah, I just got back from Vegas last night.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
You did there for Amazon?
Speaker 7 (24:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Amazon thing a lot of hookers. No, not at this convention.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
It's eighty thousand nerds.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
I mean in Vegas generally, yes, but you know.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
The only protection these guys are wearing.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
These guys, the only protection these guys had, our pocket protectors.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Way to take them right out of it.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Mark Saltzman, thank you.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
As always, nerds leave needs, they need love to thank
you guys.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
We have That's why, that's why we have about that.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
You can follow Mark on Twitter on x m arc
Underscore Saltsman with his e Mark Saltzman, we come back,
speaking of technology, how AI and social media have been
contributing to brainrot, but Shannon says it's not necessarily it's
a different guys. Yeah, so we get quicker at things,
right exactly, Gary and Shannon will continue.
Speaker 7 (25:13):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
At the bottom of next hour, we're gonna have to
revisit the latest news on three I Atlas, which is
still barreling towards Earth. It will not collide with We
know it's supposed to skip right past us at about
one hundred and seventy million miles, But something weird going
on up there. Last spring, a professor at the Wharton
(25:44):
School at the University of Pennsylvania gave a group of
about two hundred and fifty people a very simple writing
assessment assignment, Sorry, share advice with a friend on how
to lead a healthier lifestyle and to come up with tips.
Some of them were allowed to use a traditional Google search.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
This wasn't supposed to, like you, this wasn't something you're
supposed to give one of your friends, right, because that
would go overwhelm. Look at my friend's like, hey, Shan,
here's what you could do to be healthier.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
I'd punch her in the face. You know what I mean.
It's a little condescending.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Well, I assume the prompt was something like a friend
comes to you and asks for advice on how to
be healthy and how to be healthier? Others could so
some people could use a traditional Google search, others had
to rely on the summaries of information generated with Google AI.
The people who use the AI generated summaries wrote advice
that was generic. It was obviously, it was obvious and
(26:38):
largely unhelpful, like eat healthy, drink water, sleep a lot.
The people who found the information on a regular Google
search shared more nuanced advice about the pillars of wellness physical, mental,
emotional health, et cetera.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
It's funny because everyone knows the common sense things to do,
so it would be hard to not seem like you
were getting it from AI if the topic was as
simple as how to be healthier.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Obviously it's you right, move more, drink right.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
But one of the things I think that AI is
doing and doing well is, especially if you are a
regular user of something like chat, shept or grock, it
remembers what you asked before, and if you said something
like you had asked something about the combination of drugs
that your mother is on, what kind of contraindications you
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needed to watch out for, that will remember that you
have a mother and that she's on certain medications. So
it would then tailor an answer to you and to
your mother specifically.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
So that's one way that brain rot is happening.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Short Form videos, which are extremely dominant on social media
right now, are reshaping our brain from TikTok to Instagram rails,
YouTube shorts. This is a cornerstone of every online platform.
But the scientists are finding associations increasingly so between heavy
consumption of short form video and challenges with focus and
(28:09):
self control. It's early, it's early research, but they say
it is very much so adding to our brain rot.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Is This has got to be an offshoot of the
same argument that our parents had in nineteen eighty one
when MTV came along, totally because of the quick edits
and the you know, the noises and the people and
the all of the bikinis.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
And the review which was published in it was my parents. No,
it's funny. I was just having a conversation on the
sideline with somebody about a particular video. He's your age,
a year younger than you are, okay, And we're going
through videos that were formative in his in his yes,
And it was funny how you can just pick out
(28:54):
the ones. It's so easy to pick.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Out like Girls, Girls Girls by Motley Carey.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
Mean, yes, that was one of them.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
But anyway, the review that was published in the Psychological
Bulletin shows that there are links between heavy consumption of
these short form videos, not girls Girls Girls, but the
little you know short the shorts that you watch, and
increased symptoms of depression, anxiety, stress, and loneliness. So pretty
much all the things you get from your doom scrolling,
(29:21):
from your scrolling on social media, and you subconsciously comparing
and contrasting.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
That's doing to your brain what the short videos do
as well.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
And I think it's a matter of anxiety in your brain.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
Of what's next.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Yes, okay, something's going to hit me quickly, that's next.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
What's next, What's next, What's next?
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Because you're constantly stimulating your brain, your brain's anxious thinking about, okay,
what's next, as opposed to if you sat down and
read a book for an hour and a half every
day and your brain can chill the f out and
it doesn't think it's going to be bombarded with stimuli
in the next seven seconds.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
I came up an image and tell me if you
think this is right. If you're riding a mountain bike,
and you're on a trail, just a long trail, and
it's it's winding and stuff, but it's a it's a
continuous trail as opposed to since you just went hiking
in Utah, as opposed to having fifty feet of a trail.
And then you have to jump, and you you're falling
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and falling until you hit the next mesa or something
like that. And then you're on that mesa for forty
or fifty feet and then you have to jump again
and you're falling and falling and falling in wait oh,
and then there's another mesa that comes up and you
can hit that and ride that for a while. But
you're constantly, like you said, your constant. Your brain is
constantly looking for what the next thing is going.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
Your brain is playing Super Mario.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Brothers better version. Yes, that's a better one.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
That's exactly what you just described. Now you know you're running,
your running, your jump and your jump. What's next? What's next?
What's next? Your brain? How can it relax?
Speaker 3 (30:53):
And with each jump though you don't know where the
next platform.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Is exactly right, good analogy.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
So the platforms are hitten and you hope you hit one.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Right, that's why your brain needs time to calm the
f down.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Just let it lie. James Jackson is a neuropsychologist at Vanderbilt.
So there's a long history of people crusading against new technologies,
cultural phenomena. That's, like I said, in my formative years,
it was my parents railing, not specifically my parents, our
parents railing against MTV and what kind of brain rot
that was going to cause. Before them, their parents were
(31:30):
railing against rock and roll and Elvis and the Beatles,
and they were going to cause people to go crazy.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
They want and they were rightly, so they want what
you're putting in your brain to have some sort of value, right,
But here's an MTV. In their eyes, it did not
provide that, just like these short videos on YouTube do
not provide any real value to your brain. You're not
learning anything, you're not growing from them.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
But is there.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Somewhere their processed foods. That's why they called brain rot?
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Yeah, is there somewhere down the road a positive that
we don't yet see now? Because like we did this,
I feel like it's very quick, I know, but we
did the story a few weeks ago where we talked
about the concern in the teens, twenties and thirties of
the twentieth century was new technology was going to make
us all dumb. Radio TV was going to make us
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all dumb, when in fact, our IQ on average went
up like three points every decade and we were able
to get smarter and smarter because the information was so
much more available to so many more people. I wonder
if there is some benefit to this in the future
of I mean, I hate the idea, and trust me,
(32:43):
I don't like. I don't like the idea that our
brains are now conditioned to seven seconds and shut off
and find something else. But maybe there is a positive
aspect to it one hundred years from now that we go, Oh,
it's a good thing we had vine, It's a good
thing we had Instagram reels.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
I would offer this stick to listening to this show
because we are human, we are not AI, and we're
here for four hours.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
We're a way of feeding your brain.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
That is it.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
That is the greatest sales pitch for this show I
think I've ever heard. That's quite the elevator log one.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Pretty good about it, felt pretty good about it.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
You've been listening to the Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
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(00:31):
the Chargers game. Monday night football game against the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
That is going to be a good time and people
are starting you know, Eagles fans are a little nonplused
with what's what's going on this season. So I'm an
Eagles fan. Friend, yesterday you go to the game. No,
I'm not going to go to the game. I'm likes
I should go to Monday Night. It's a winnable game.
Now people are got tickets today. He and his wife
(00:55):
are going to go. I mean, it's it's hard when
when Primetime come to town, and you don't go you
know what I mean, like you're missing out. It's fomo,
Hey Gas, Lindsay from Las Vegas.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Hey Gary, did you know that they have a song
out about you know? It's fittingly called Gary and it's
about how basically parents don't name their kids Gary anymore.
I've been not very many, so check it out.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
It's by Stevid Wilson Junior.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
It's actually a really great song, but I do think
you'll get a little bit of a chuckle out of it.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
So interesting, enjoy. I'd like to have thirty Gary these
days been lying in his bed name.
Speaker 6 (01:40):
Working on the same car, going on my decade.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Scribbles on John Down don't draw attention.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Scribbles And an older stood and I mentioned.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
The boy's name Gary these Days.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
This is an awful song.
Speaker 6 (02:06):
Anything a hammer can see them all along because a
Gary dome gamble, He doesn't They got the song and
could do form out.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
This?
Speaker 4 (02:19):
What is Who is this guy that wrote this? It's awful?
Speaker 6 (02:22):
Step a boy's name Gary these days?
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Oh my goodness. Who who gets in the car and
puts that on?
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Apparently he performed it on Jimmy Kimmel just the other night.
I've never heard that before.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
All right, So we turn to what is seemingly gripping
the country, and it's not going any aware away anytime soon,
and it is right in time for the holidays, which
making it worse since highlighting it is the affordability crisis,
and Trump is trying to tackle.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
This is where we kick off swamp watch.
Speaker 7 (02:53):
I'm a politician, which means I'm a cheat and a liar,
and when I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing their lollipops.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah, we got the real problem is that our leaders
are done.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
The other side never quits.
Speaker 7 (03:04):
So what I'm not going anywhere? So that is how
you train the squat.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
I can imagine what can be and be unburdened by
what has been. You know, Mrvans have always been going
at president. They're not stupid.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
A political flunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Whether people voted for you were not.
Speaker 7 (03:22):
Swap watch.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
They're all counternoed.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
So you know this.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
You know this if you do the grocery shopping and
your family prices are out of control, and they have
been for five six years now. A new polling shows
about forty six percent of people say the cost of
living in the US is the worst they can ever
remember it being. That includes thirty seven percent of Trump voters. Now,
(03:45):
it's not a who's in the white House problem, although
whoever's in the White House always takes the credit.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Or the heat for the economy. It's just the way
things are.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
We know that the President is going to start aggressively
campaigning in some key battleground states against this, against the
affordability crisis. I guess you could say, trying to highlight
his economic agenda ahead of the midterms. On Tuesday, I
believe he's going to be in northeastern Pennsylvania, up in
(04:14):
Joe Biden's territory in the Scranton area, to push back
on these frustrations that everybody has. One of the things
that he's going to focus on is gas prices, which
recently fell below three dollars nationwide average for the first
time in the last four years. But this new CBS
News poll to the some of those same numbers that
(04:35):
you're talking about, showed that seventy seven percent of people
surveyed believe the president is not spending enough time focused
on the economy and those rising prices.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
He has called this a hoax.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
By the way, now this is not a Trump centric
issue when it comes to being tone deaf about the economy.
Every president is tone deaf about the economy because every
president hasn't gone grocery sho for decades. Probably they have
no idea, and Trump among them.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
I mean, you know, you.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Could say, oh, well, he's a rich guy's from New York,
he's a you know, a building magnet, blah blah blah.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Well one's the least anything. Joe Biden went grocery shopping.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
I mean, it's not a Democrat, Republican, rich guy, poor guy,
every man president versus business guy president.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
It's political elite versus everybody else bingo.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
And you cannot call it a hoax because it is
obvious to all of us who spend money on a
daily basis, on just everyday items, how ridiculous it's gotten.
And you know what, if it's this bad and people
are complaining about it, and it's risen to your level
in the Oval office, it's landed on your desk. The
better way, the Trump, the more Trump way to do it.
(05:47):
It's just like, hey, I inherited this. This is Biden's mess.
I see that you're all suffering. This sucks. I've heard
about your growth.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Yeah, I've heard about your grocery bills. This sucks.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
I inherited this and we're working on it. Pulling it
a hoax rubs me the wrong.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Way, Which is funny because he did both things. On Tuesday,
during that cabinet meeting they had, he did say it
was a hoax.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
He said, it's a fake narrative.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
The Democrats talk about it and it doesn't mean anything
to anybody. And then he says, I inherited the worst
inflation in history. There was no affordability. Nobody could afford anything.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
It's like you talking about menopause.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Just sit it out, Trump talking about affordability at the
grocery store.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Just sit it out.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
I'll be over here if you need me. When you
start talking about something I know something about. The FBI
just wrapped up its news conference a short time ago
announcing the arrest of a suspect and their investigation into
two pipe bombs, or into pipe bombs I should say,
planted near the Republican and Democratic National Party headquarters in
DC on January fifth, twenty one, just before the January
(06:51):
sixth attack on the Capitol Brian Cole Junior identified as
the suspect.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
He's been charged with use of an explosive device.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Of course, this is not something the pipes themselves did
not detonate, but a couple of the different officials that
took to the podium said that these could have been
devastating had they actually had they actually gone off. And
one of the things that Dan Bongino, Deputy director of
the FBI said was they this isn't new.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Information that came in.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
This was basically just rehashing the information that they have
had for the last five years or so and were
able to identify him as a suspect.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Again, this is Brian Cole Junior.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
His father's business apparently was surrounded, as was the home
that he's been living in family home. The FBI was
taking things from parked cars that were outside. Not a
lot known about this guy. I saw a couple of
descriptors of him saying that he was an avowed anarchist
living in Virginia, but other than that, not no real
(07:57):
specific target that he was going after or motive necessarily
in terms of what he was doing.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
The polar vortex is coming. We'll tell you where the
frigid temperatures will hit. It's not just a polar dick
of what polar? What triple dip polar vortex?
Speaker 3 (08:14):
That's what it. How could you even see it? If cold?
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
If can we just go to the dudes?
Speaker 3 (08:23):
We could, but I want to just sit on this
for a second.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
I would not like to.
Speaker 7 (08:29):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
There was also that story about a seventeen year old
kid killed by fireworks.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Did you hear about that?
Speaker 4 (08:40):
No?
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Down backyard fireworks is what they're suggesting, or at least
illegal fireworks, not that he necessarily homemade them, but was
trying to or was going to show off and ended
up getting hit right in the chest. Fighter jet with
the Air Force Thunderbirds demonstration squadrons crashed out in the
desert in San Bernardino count The pilot was able to
(09:02):
eject safely. The Air Force, as the pilot did suffer
non life threatening injuries. Also got a poll from Emerson
College release today about showing the front runners for both
parties when it comes to California's governor's race for next year.
The polling data commissioned by Next Star and Inside California
Politics shows that Riverside County Sheriff Chad Bianco has about
(09:22):
a one point lead right now over former Fox News
host Steve Hilton in that poll. That's a switch of
about six points. Hilton was ahead for a while in
other polls. Chad Bianco had been polling above him, but
this is the first time he has. In the Emerson
College poll, and then on the Democratic side, Congressman Eric
Swalwell is now leading over a former congresswoman Katie Porter
(09:43):
by one point, and then the rest In the Democrat side,
Via Ragosa gets five percent, Tom Steyer gets four percent,
Javier Basera gets four percent. The key, though still thirty
one percent of voters in this poll described themselves as
undecided for governor next year.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
We give a pair of tickets away.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
We could do totally do that, ja, I am ready
to go.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Okay, how about color number?
Speaker 3 (10:09):
What do you want? I want color number seven today?
Speaker 4 (10:12):
WHOA you are not feeling well?
Speaker 3 (10:14):
It's just it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
I'm worried. I'm worried now color number seven.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
How about a pair of tickets to go see Monday
night football? So far under the Lights, Chargers taking on
the Eagles, two desperate teams hoping to cling higher on
to the seat in the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
My voice got a little gravelly there.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Eight hundred five to zero one five three four, eight
hundred five to one KFI will pick up two tickets
to Monday night's game, Chargers hosting the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Isn't a while that we still have a landline?
Speaker 3 (10:54):
How else would we do it?
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Well, I'm just saying, there's going to come a time
when radio stations you don't have land lines. All the
other landlines in the building have been canceled except for
this one.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
That is true, isn't it. I guess all of our
there's no phone at those desks that we sit at.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
No, no, no, why would there be.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
It's not like anybody calls us.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
I mean, you still have your landline for no reason.
Nobody calls you. You kept it for your parents.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Yeah, well maybe they call again.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Trust me, that would be quite an that would be
quite an astounding feat if.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
In fact they did call on put them on the
line with the AI at list people. Right, A triple
dip polar vortex is coming. This is going to be
because not everybody who listens to the Gary and Shannon
Show lives in California.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
We know some of you are.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Affected by the bottle people and other places, many, many people, and.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
We should do a woe were you at Wednesday? Come
out next week.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
We'll do that next week.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
That's a great idea, yeah, because it's a reminder that
many people do get affected by the polar vortexes that
slam into this country the first of three this month.
What is a polar vortex? Excellent question. It's when surges
of Arctic air generate rounds of flurries and squalls in
(12:10):
certain locations. They can assist igniting storms with more widespread
snow as well a supercharge your snowstorm. And there's gonna
be three rounds of these bad boys this winter. The
Upper Midwest and northern Plains have been hit by Canada's
freezing temperatures and today wind chills, oh my gosh, I
(12:34):
can't even wind chills between negative ten negative twenty five
degrees will be expected. I don't know what that feels like.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
No humans should feel they should know what that feels like.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
But coming up this is there's a football game in
Buffalo No, this weekend. No, I'm trying to find these
at Cleveland will probably be hit by this. Ohnesota's in
a tank, in a tank.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Minnesota is in a dome, so that's not a problem.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
The Jets are open air green Bay, Greeny.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
It's going to be in Buffalo m snow showers, thirty degrees.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
That's not bad.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Wind Buffalo fifteen miles per hour, that's not bad.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
That's okay.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
I mean that'll take your windshield down to the teens probably,
but that's still for Buffalo.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
That's a seam where they play.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
December Day, they play Cincinnati.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
Oh, Cincinnati, they're used to it.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
That'll be fine.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
What about the Browns are playing the Tennessee Titans.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
They're awful anyway, so this isn't going to hurt them.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
That's a good point, a good point.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
But Cleveland, they'll be used to it. That's what an
awful game that's going to be. And then the Dolphins
are playing the Jets in New Jersey.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
That's always a fun one.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
That's the one that could be. And then like I said,
Chicago is at Green Bay.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Oh my god, I am getting so cold hearing these things.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Green Bay, Wisconsin, middle of December in a polar vortex.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Oh my gosh, what am on on a Sunday after?
It's going to be for them?
Speaker 2 (14:09):
It's well, it's what Green Bay is two hours ahead
of us. Yeah, so it will be three three point
thirty in the afternoon when they start that game. So
it's gonna get colder, is it good?
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Oh? My goodness.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
The North Pole right now is covered by its own
polar vortex. This is a huge circular upper air weather
system in the Arctic. The normal pattern that tends to
contain the coldest weather close to the North Pole and
is stronger in the winter. And then what happens is
a portion of that polar vortex could break off or
just even drift to the south, which is what they're doing.
(14:41):
What it's doing now, bringing the freezing weather to the
US and Europe and Asia Asia. Normally, the jet stream
that comes through locks the vortex in and keeps it there.
We also weather wise, I guess you could say, are
going to have some king tides today.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Parrot.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Again, I'm still not sure the pronunciation peagean or peragean.
Spring tides are back most commonly known as king tides.
They occur when the sun the Moon and the Earth
a line, and that increases the gravitational tug on the ocean.
Full moon is exerting its pull. Is the last super
moon of twenty twenty five, called the Cold Moon. But
(15:18):
the King tides, they say, we'll continue today into tomorrow,
and then we'll be back January second and third. We'll
start to see some of these things, which actually in
southern California doesn't mean a whole lot, except that you
could see some more rip currents if you're out in
the water itself, if you're surfing, and there could be
some localized flooding in some of those lower areas, some
(15:42):
of those beach communities they get regular flooding.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
They could see. Someone.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Is this going to affect us like a Mars in
retrograde situation?
Speaker 3 (15:48):
I don't know if that does you mean astrologically, I
don't know. Maybe that's what I feel right now.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Oh, maybe that's what's going on with you.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Maybe my Mars is in retro what'd you say, it's
not retribution?
Speaker 1 (16:02):
I think maybe this could be the beginning of the
end for you, the end of I mean just like
the end of your immune system really fighting.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
It's just going to give up after this.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
I don't know. I've never seen a give up like
this before.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Crap that you've brought in here that I've been able
to fend off. I think I'm okay.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
What are you talking about? The crato with the e
cole I that's not why you get that kidney failure.
That was love MD. The thyroid thing you can't get
trust me what that means.
Speaker 7 (16:36):
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Speaker 7 (17:09):
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Speaker 2 (17:14):
Mark Saltzman joins us on Thursday, as we talked about
the world of technology and as we get close to
the end of the year, a lot of our streaming
services will tell us the absolute worst music that we
have streamed over the course in the last year. And
Spotify is out with its new features. The twenty twenty
five wrapped Listener Recap that it tells you how much
(17:35):
time you spend listening to Benson Boone.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
Yeah, exactly. It could be cringey when you look back,
but your musical taste shouldn't have changed that much within
a year. I mean, if it did, then you're you know,
very erratic. But yeah, you know, and it's funny. There's
been a couple of new things. Bad Buddy did eke
out Taylor Swift worldwide at the number one surprise, almost
(17:59):
twenty billion streams billion with a B in the US though, yeah,
Taylor is still number one, but yeah, there's a you know,
you learn things about yourself. That's obviously Spotify's stats. Joe
Rogan had the number one podcast of course, Uh top
song was Bruno Mars and Lady Gagas died with a smile.
So some of that stuff's not too surprising. But yeah,
(18:20):
your own stats, you're like, wow, I listened to a
lot of Bob Seeger that I'm younger than that as
what you might think. And now, funny enough, Spotify has
this musical age that they added this year or no, yeah,
so it will tell you based on your listening habits
and cross reference with the real age of other people
who listen to that song?
Speaker 3 (18:40):
What is your musical age?
Speaker 5 (18:42):
So people are reacting very finally on TikTok and on Instagram.
When they're either middle age but they have a listening
age of twenty, they're very proud to share that, but
when it's the other way around, they're not.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
So, you know, it's funny.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
I did my rap this morning and it said my
listening age was twenty five, and then it said share
to you story, and I.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Was like, how sad would that be if I did that?
Speaker 1 (19:03):
That was my first thought, Like, how sad if you're
like forty five and you're sharing that you're listening ages
twenty five? Like look, how young I am?
Speaker 4 (19:12):
Tragic, strategic.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
It was like a twenty five year old who was
almost in tears because their listening age was sixty seven.
Might explain my Bob Seeker thing for me too, But.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Yeah, Bob Seger is timeless.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
I'm partial to him.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Now.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
I've got very eclectic taste. I listened to EDM, I
listened to pop, I listened to classical. The number one
artist I stream this year is funny because rock is
not popular anymore. But I am a closet. Metal Head
is a band called Falling in Reverse. Oh hell yeah, yeah,
So I'm a fan of these guys and that was
my number one for my Spotify Rapped but yeah not.
(19:47):
I mean they're popular in the genre, but rock is
about to make a big comeback, I think, mark my words.
Speaker 7 (19:53):
So yeah, so a lot of fun.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
And they also add Spotify added a new multiplayer game.
So there's always been a solo Spotify Rapped trivia game
based on your own listening habits, but for the first time,
you and nine others can play the Spotify Rapped Party
as it's called, where you compete with again ten people
in total, with questions based on your listening habits. It's
a multiplayer game through the app only, not through the website.
(20:17):
But yeah, Spotify is really gamifying this end of year thing.
I think they're really trying to outdo YouTube. That also
has you know, your your your stats from the year,
so a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
They have another one called Top Artists Sprint. Well, it
shows you how quickly your favorite artists, like when did
you start streaming them?
Speaker 3 (20:36):
And then if.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
You like were totally obsessed with like an earworm song,
you know it'll maybe win your Top Artists Sprint on
within your own list, so it's fun that little recap.
So yeah, just go into the Spotify app if you're
listening to this and you want to know what you're
rapped looks like, and you'll find the word wrapped.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
You could just tap that.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
I'm totally with you and rock making a comeback because
it has not been very mainstream for a while, and
it's kind of like doing that cool grassroots, basement type,
small band, small venue resurgence, which means we're on tap
for something really good.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
Yeah, yeah, there are sorry, there are festivals as well, obviously, right,
and Ozzie's passing as sad and tragic as that was.
I mean, there were a lot of hard rock bands
playing at his tribute, you know, and of course Metallica is.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Timeless and all that.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
But I like these these these newer bands, even though
bands like Falling in Reverse are not new but new
to many, they're also doing collapse with famous people like
Jelly Roll and stuff, so they're they're gaining new audiences,
which is cool.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
And if speaking of smartphones, if you are trying to
access your Spotify unwrapped, you may have a much larger
device in your hands next year, at this time my
cheesy segue to the news.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Yeah, I'm glad we're bringing this up because I see
this as one of those offshoots of technology where yes,
it's possible that we can do this, but do we
really need it or should should we really do it?
Speaker 3 (22:06):
The Galaxy Z trifold phone.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
Right, So, we've seen this design overseas with brands like Huawei,
which is banned in the US. But this is a
what looks like a smartphone at first glance, but then
you pull it apart to become a tablet, and not
just a dual fold that they have now with a
Z fold as it's called, but a trifold, as the
(22:31):
name suggests, has three screens. Well, it's really one screen
that's foldable, and then you unfold it twice, kind of
like you know, like a front cover, and then you
pull back the back cover if you will, as if
you were holding a book, and it does turn into
a ten inch tablet. It is the largest screen ever
on a Samsung device. The idea is that you don't
need both a phone and a tablet when you've got
(22:52):
two in one and allegedly super thin. I haven't seen
it yet, I will at the Consumer Electronics Show in
a month a month from today, I'll be going, yeah,
but it's like under four millimeters thin, and then yeah,
it unfolds twice to become a ten inch tablet.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
But I hear what you're saying.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
Just because they can't do it doesn't mean they should.
Because Samsung has had issues in the past with foldable
devices with the screen all that wear and tear, but
they do rigorously test it. I can tell you I've
been to their head offices in Seoul, South Korea, and
they're really trying to turn that you know, negative press
around and really try to deliver something that can withstand
(23:29):
you know, five or eight years of folding by simulating
that kind of that you know, abuse on the phone.
So yeah, I mean it looks cool. The social media
has it's very polarized. Some are saying, you know, been there,
done that, this is not new. They're copying the Chinese
company companies that are doing this, and then others are like,
sign me up, I want it. You know, I'm sold,
(23:51):
whereas you know, here's my money. But speaking of which
it will be anywhere, it could be up to three
thousand dollars for this phone. Is so yeah, and the
listeners saying between and three grand, which is a lot.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
So we will see.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
But yeah, well, the press here on this side of
the pond, we're going to get our hands on this.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Come uh uh January.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
At the big consumer electronics show in sin City, which
is yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Month, it's close. You should stop buying.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
Say hi, yeah, I just got back from Vegas last night.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
You did there for Amazon?
Speaker 7 (24:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Amazon thing a lot of hookers. No, not at this convention.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
It's eighty thousand nerds.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
I mean in Vegas generally, yes, but you know.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
The only protection these guys are wearing.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
These guys, the only protection these guys had, our pocket protectors.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Way to take them right out of it.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Mark Saltzman, thank you.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
As always, nerds leave needs, they need love to thank
you guys.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
We have That's why, that's why we have about that.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
You can follow Mark on Twitter on x m arc
Underscore Saltsman with his e Mark Saltzman, we come back,
speaking of technology, how AI and social media have been
contributing to brainrot, but Shannon says it's not necessarily it's
a different guys. Yeah, so we get quicker at things,
right exactly, Gary and Shannon will continue.
Speaker 7 (25:13):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
At the bottom of next hour, we're gonna have to
revisit the latest news on three I Atlas, which is
still barreling towards Earth. It will not collide with We
know it's supposed to skip right past us at about
one hundred and seventy million miles, But something weird going
on up there. Last spring, a professor at the Wharton
(25:44):
School at the University of Pennsylvania gave a group of
about two hundred and fifty people a very simple writing
assessment assignment, Sorry, share advice with a friend on how
to lead a healthier lifestyle and to come up with tips.
Some of them were allowed to use a traditional Google search.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
This wasn't supposed to, like you, this wasn't something you're
supposed to give one of your friends, right, because that
would go overwhelm. Look at my friend's like, hey, Shan,
here's what you could do to be healthier.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
I'd punch her in the face. You know what I mean.
It's a little condescending.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Well, I assume the prompt was something like a friend
comes to you and asks for advice on how to
be healthy and how to be healthier? Others could so
some people could use a traditional Google search, others had
to rely on the summaries of information generated with Google AI.
The people who use the AI generated summaries wrote advice
that was generic. It was obviously, it was obvious and
(26:38):
largely unhelpful, like eat healthy, drink water, sleep a lot.
The people who found the information on a regular Google
search shared more nuanced advice about the pillars of wellness physical, mental,
emotional health, et cetera.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
It's funny because everyone knows the common sense things to do,
so it would be hard to not seem like you
were getting it from AI if the topic was as
simple as how to be healthier.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Obviously it's you right, move more, drink right.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
But one of the things I think that AI is
doing and doing well is, especially if you are a
regular user of something like chat, shept or grock, it
remembers what you asked before, and if you said something
like you had asked something about the combination of drugs
that your mother is on, what kind of contraindications you
(27:31):
needed to watch out for, that will remember that you
have a mother and that she's on certain medications. So
it would then tailor an answer to you and to
your mother specifically.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
So that's one way that brain rot is happening.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Short Form videos, which are extremely dominant on social media
right now, are reshaping our brain from TikTok to Instagram rails,
YouTube shorts. This is a cornerstone of every online platform.
But the scientists are finding associations increasingly so between heavy
consumption of short form video and challenges with focus and
(28:09):
self control. It's early, it's early research, but they say
it is very much so adding to our brain rot.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Is This has got to be an offshoot of the
same argument that our parents had in nineteen eighty one
when MTV came along, totally because of the quick edits
and the you know, the noises and the people and
the all of the bikinis.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
And the review which was published in it was my parents. No,
it's funny. I was just having a conversation on the
sideline with somebody about a particular video. He's your age,
a year younger than you are, okay, And we're going
through videos that were formative in his in his yes,
And it was funny how you can just pick out
(28:54):
the ones. It's so easy to pick.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Out like Girls, Girls Girls by Motley Carey.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
Mean, yes, that was one of them.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
But anyway, the review that was published in the Psychological
Bulletin shows that there are links between heavy consumption of
these short form videos, not girls Girls Girls, but the
little you know short the shorts that you watch, and
increased symptoms of depression, anxiety, stress, and loneliness. So pretty
much all the things you get from your doom scrolling,
(29:21):
from your scrolling on social media, and you subconsciously comparing
and contrasting.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
That's doing to your brain what the short videos do
as well.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
And I think it's a matter of anxiety in your brain.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
Of what's next.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Yes, okay, something's going to hit me quickly, that's next.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
What's next, What's next, What's next?
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Because you're constantly stimulating your brain, your brain's anxious thinking about, okay,
what's next, as opposed to if you sat down and
read a book for an hour and a half every
day and your brain can chill the f out and
it doesn't think it's going to be bombarded with stimuli
in the next seven seconds.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
I came up an image and tell me if you
think this is right. If you're riding a mountain bike,
and you're on a trail, just a long trail, and
it's it's winding and stuff, but it's a it's a
continuous trail as opposed to since you just went hiking
in Utah, as opposed to having fifty feet of a trail.
And then you have to jump, and you you're falling
(30:20):
and falling until you hit the next mesa or something
like that. And then you're on that mesa for forty
or fifty feet and then you have to jump again
and you're falling and falling and falling in wait oh,
and then there's another mesa that comes up and you
can hit that and ride that for a while. But
you're constantly, like you said, your constant. Your brain is
constantly looking for what the next thing is going.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
Your brain is playing Super Mario.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Brothers better version. Yes, that's a better one.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
That's exactly what you just described. Now you know you're running,
your running, your jump and your jump. What's next? What's next?
What's next? Your brain? How can it relax?
Speaker 3 (30:53):
And with each jump though you don't know where the
next platform.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Is exactly right, good analogy.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
So the platforms are hitten and you hope you hit one.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Right, that's why your brain needs time to calm the
f down.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Just let it lie. James Jackson is a neuropsychologist at Vanderbilt.
So there's a long history of people crusading against new technologies,
cultural phenomena. That's, like I said, in my formative years,
it was my parents railing, not specifically my parents, our
parents railing against MTV and what kind of brain rot
that was going to cause. Before them, their parents were
(31:30):
railing against rock and roll and Elvis and the Beatles,
and they were going to cause people to go crazy.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
They want and they were rightly, so they want what
you're putting in your brain to have some sort of value, right,
But here's an MTV. In their eyes, it did not
provide that, just like these short videos on YouTube do
not provide any real value to your brain. You're not
learning anything, you're not growing from them.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
But is there.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Somewhere their processed foods. That's why they called brain rot?
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Yeah, is there somewhere down the road a positive that
we don't yet see now? Because like we did this,
I feel like it's very quick, I know, but we
did the story a few weeks ago where we talked
about the concern in the teens, twenties and thirties of
the twentieth century was new technology was going to make
us all dumb. Radio TV was going to make us
(32:22):
all dumb, when in fact, our IQ on average went
up like three points every decade and we were able
to get smarter and smarter because the information was so
much more available to so many more people. I wonder
if there is some benefit to this in the future
of I mean, I hate the idea, and trust me,
(32:43):
I don't like. I don't like the idea that our
brains are now conditioned to seven seconds and shut off
and find something else. But maybe there is a positive
aspect to it one hundred years from now that we go, Oh,
it's a good thing we had vine, It's a good
thing we had Instagram reels.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
I would offer this stick to listening to this show
because we are human, we are not AI, and we're
here for four hours.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
We're a way of feeding your brain.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
That is it.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
That is the greatest sales pitch for this show I
think I've ever heard. That's quite the elevator log one.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Pretty good about it, felt pretty good about it.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
You've been listening to the Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
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