July 11, 2026 • 15 mins
Gary & Shannon unpack why we're so tempted to romanticize old relationships, how nostalgia tricks us into remembering only the good times, and whether "the one that got away" really exists.
Along the way, Gary reveals whether he was ever someone's missed opportunity, Shannon offers a refreshing take on competitive dating, and the conversation turns into an honest look at moving forward instead of looking back.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
A M. Six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on
demand on the iHeartRadio app. Well, welcome to our Weekend Fix. Yeah,
this is just we come up with this name. By
the way, is it like a heroin fix?
Speaker 2 (00:17):
I'm just gonna say there's heroin involved. We know that.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
What are we fixing? And then I realized, so maybe
it's like a drug thing, like people are in withdrawal
without the show on the weekend?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
And are we really thinking that people are?
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Why did we think that? Why did we think we
were so up here when we named the show Weekend Fix?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I mean even even we like to take a break
every once in a while.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Yeah, wouldn't it be nice, wouldn't So?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I saw this I saw this article, and I think
it's funny And without getting into too many specifics about
body count or crazy things like that, it's a story
about why psychologically, men never stop thinking about the one
relationship that got away, but that women tend to think
(01:05):
about those relationships that did run their course. That makes sense,
so men long for the thing that they never actually had.
Women may look back more romantically or more positively on
a relationship that they did have that eventually ended.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Why do you think that is?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I don't know, but it's psychology. We know that. They said.
The psychology behind it is less romantic than the feeling itself.
One of these researchers, again the psychologist, describes the phenomenon
as relationship nostalgia or in some cases sexual nostalgia, notes
that it is different depending on how somebody approaches it.
(01:47):
Men and women obviously think about these that kind of
They think about those two things very differently.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
I can understand the man's portion of it that the
men think about the one that got away, because the
one that got away usually implies that the relationship did
not run its course, that it didn't get to the
stage of I'm bitching at you all the time, like
I have not driven meeting the female, I have not
(02:14):
driven this relationship into the ground like I could, and
therefore I got away.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Yeah, Like, it.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Just shows that the relationship was cut short. So like
the woman, what didn't get to her most annoying point yet?
So that's why you look back fondly on it, because
you don't remember her being like the one who's like
and where were where were you? You said you were
going to be home at six thirty. It's seven thirty
kind of a thing. The relationship was cut off before that,
(02:42):
that portion of a relationship. So of course, when you're
in a new relationship i e. A marriage that's lasted
for ten years whatever, you're like, hmmm, remember that girl
who never gave me crap? Remember her nice? She was
so great. I wonder what happened with her that she
would never yell at me. I bet she would never
(03:02):
hold me accountable, you know what I mean? Like, that's
I think why guys look back on it, on that
one that got away, because they got away before it
got bad.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
They also describe, and it's very important the nostalgia word,
and the psychologist uses nostalgia in a very specific way,
saying that nostalgia, instead of just you know, ruminating about
something or you know, misinterpreting something that happened in your past,
that this is nostalgia tends to pull people toward positive memories,
(03:34):
which is why it's so easy to revisit some of
these things. I mean, I would I would say just
generally it's easier for you to remember the positives of
a past relationship than the negatives, right. I mean, I
think that's sort of a natural depending on the nature
of the negatives, but it's probably a natural defense mechanism.
(03:54):
You don't want to you want to ruminate on the
awful times that you had with somebody, but you can
remember the nice times, the fun time.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Yeah. And I think that's why people keep going back
to toxic relationships is because they don't remember the bad.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
They don't remember the bad stuff and the bad habits
that they got into.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
All right, because nossalgia does lean positive.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
They said, the brain isn't replaying what actually happened, it's
replaying a curated version of it. Wow. So because you
can think back accurate, you can think back and I'm
sure you're doing it. I'm thinking of any relationship I've
had in the past, free wife, like that there were
positives that had come out of it. You know, if
(04:33):
you delve into it, and you there's probably like well,
but there's clearly a reason why we are no longer together, right,
and we didn't spend our lives together.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
I look back on past relationships and I don't think
negatively about them. I just think, although I can't remember them,
just I just that was not we were not the
people for each other. You know. It was just like,
these aren't bad people. It's just that it wouldn't have
made sense in the long term.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Okay, but flip that and I'm curious also, do you
think to yourself, hey, there was that one relationship that
there might have been something there, but it never it
never came to fruition.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
I think all of them could have been worked out,
you know what I mean, It's just do you want
it to work out? How much energy do you wanted
to expend to make this work out?
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Words?
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Summer much harder? You know, everything was easy with my husband, everything,
you know, and it was just like you know, probably
with your wife too, just fell into this like nice, easy,
comfortable thing as opposed to sometimes relationships you're like, oh,
this is going to be some work. Yeah, like we
are going to be some work, and do I want
to do that work?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
There is something I mean to put a finer point
on that. I think that there was a very specific
thing about my wife that I remember was sort of
eye opening in that I was always a very sarcastic
I tried to try to be funny all the time,
and sometimes you didn't hit didn't land. I tried to
(05:57):
be sarcastic, and you know, some people got it and
some people didn't. She always got it. That's not to
say she always laughed or she always thought it was
but she always got what I was trying to do.
And that's one of those things. That was one of
those things that clicked and meshed so much better than
anything else than any previous relationship. Yeah, so that's interesting.
(06:18):
They also described this as that sort of these nostalgic
memories that we have about past relationships can actually be
positive in your current relationship because it promotes a sense
of personal growth. And that may be kind of what
you're saying as well, Like I'm a different person now
than I was back then, and it is easier for
(06:39):
me to mesh with my current partner whoever i'm with
like that. That's I've learned from my mistakes, yeah, Or
I've learned what to expect from.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Your mistakes in your current relationship.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Yeah. But that's and that's the difference is those early relationships.
If if there were mistakes that were made on whoever's part,
like you said earlier, are you willing to just are
you willing to put in that much work to fix
those things.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
They're fixable, probably sure, but do you want to do really?
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah, what's the positive on the outside of that? Whereas
with a current situation, you think to yourself, this is
worth it. We will work it out. We can put
the energy and effort that it takes to fix it
and get over it.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Basically, are you somebody's who got away? Do you think
women look back on the relationship with you fondly and
think Gary Hoffman, Well, I was never the one that
got away.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
And listen, I'm sure all guys say this. I was
never the dick. I was never the asshole. I was
never the I mean maybe that was maybe I was
too flaccid, you know, well, I mean that that way.
Oh he's a young, healthy man.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
What may that.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
I'm actually speechless.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Maybe I I don't. I don't know. I mean, I don't.
I hope people look back finally and they're like, oh,
he's a nice guy. Yeah, But it's not like they're like, Wow,
that guy was a no.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
I mean like sometimes you leave relationships and you're like, oh,
I should have stuck with that guy. You know, is
there somebody in a domestic violent situation that wishes they
had the nice placid guy.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Seriously, because I'm going through it, I'm like, well, probably
not her, and I.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Think she's okay.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
One's in Alaska. Last I saw, Uh yeah, one of
the exotic named ones was driving a school bus in Alaska.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
So real. Yeah, so that sounds like a fun existence.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Oh my gosh, what a no, what a fun existence.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Peaceful if you like children, You're in Alaska. It's beautiful,
relatively low stress.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
You're just driving a bu beautiful for about two months
a year.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Probably, Well, she wasn't for you, Clearly she was not.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
That's why it ended. One person says that he cheated
on a girlfriend in college and has spent years watching
her build the life that she wanted with someone else.
And he says the worst part is knowing that she
didn't get away. I let her go.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
His current wife is a lucky lady.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
That okay, So this okay, to go back to the beginning.
I think that's funny because, like we said, that nostalgia,
imagine that, well, that nostalgia can can provide you some
sort of perspective of I'm not that same person. I've
learned how to control my emotions I've learned asked the question.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
I was just quoted as saying, I look back on
the girl I cheated on, and she lives in my
head because that could have been me. But I'm a
dick and now I'm currently with somebody and thinking about
the girl that I cheated on. It's awful.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Well, maybe he's doing it as a way to reflect
and say to himself, don't do that again. Maybe that's
what he's learning from it.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Maybe why is he spend so much time thinking about
the girl he cheated on her life.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Is does he knows she's rebuilding her life in the
way that Yeah, maybe that's a tattoo.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
That's a competitive data right there. That's a I want
to be the best. I want the best. She wasn't
the best, so he went and cheated on her. And
now he's like, ah, that life looks better than mine.
Should have stuck with that because I want the best.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Life is not a competition.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
No, you got to be pretty satisfied with what you got.
You do, not that you have to do.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
That's pretty much the secret to life.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
You don't have to settle, but you also have to
understand that that there you have a lot of gifts here.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
All you need and more.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
You are enough.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
I'm more than enough, trust me. Yeah, I know. I'd
like to take a little bit and set it aside.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Back channel chat between aay next guys forty years.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
I like to take half and just stick with this half.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Every once in a while, send them a text. It's
just a warning. And she's on fire today.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Good luck. Maybe say at work a little while.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I tried to take three hours out of her, and
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
I think it's pretty safe to say I'm no one's
the one that got away. No, that's not true, because
here's the other thing.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
You and I are in a space where it's going
to be easier for some if they were to look
you up. I mean to do a quick search on.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
The old Yeah, that's a great that's also I mean,
someone's gonna see you.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
They're going to see that you host a show in
Los Angeles, that you're a sideline reporter for an NFL team,
and they would know, they would know that that was
one of the things that you've always wanted to do.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Love.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
I mean, it's an incredible job.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
I love the lipstick you whipped out to put on
this pig. It is a vast array of different hues.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Well, maybe like that one guy Ahan, Maybe he's.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Like, that's his name, the guy that cheated on his
girlfriend ahan Ahn. Yeah, let's look him up.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
No, I can. I just to picture him already in
my head and I don't need to. They said that
the problem with nostalgia is when it gets into into fixation. Yeah,
it's okay to miss people. It's okay to sort of
in a way romanticize that, you know, old day when
I was twenty two or whatever.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Yeah, but that's the thing. It's like, you that relationship,
if you look back on the one that got away fondly,
you have no idea what that would have become.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Right, it changes what's the what's.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
The sliding doors?
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Thank you? The Gwyneth Paltrow movie I'm thinking of, Uh,
never saw it, but I know what it's about. Yeah,
and that is I laugh about this all the time.
My wife, But when we first met, she was seriously
considering taking a job at a bank that would have
probably moved her to Dallas within months of us meeting.
(13:08):
And I'm not saying I was the reason that she
didn't go, But what if the timing was different by
thirty days, by two weeks or whatever, and she decides
to high tail it and live in Texas.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Would have been fine, you both would have I mean,
that's the thing, that's the whole sliding doors thing. Yeah,
just to remove the romanticism away from everybody. You're gonna
be all right, you know, the whole like there's one
person for you and that's it is complete bullshit. Well,
you're gonna be fine. You've got a good head on
your shoulders, you're a good person. You're gonna meet somebody.
(13:44):
And that's the whole thing about dating is stop waiting
for the lightning bolder perfection, Like you're gonna be fine,
You're gonna do great no matter who you're with.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
But did you ever spend time thinking about that, Like
where you would be today if you'd never met your husband? Yeah,
I meant the trial that you were covering. I mean, right,
because I said this multiple time, I don't think I
would have left Chico. I would have been perfectly fine
living in a college town.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
And you would have been fine. You would be a
professor or something and work at the radio station on
the side, and you'd have a wife, and you'd have
a couple.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Kids'd be George Benson.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
And be fine. The thing of with sliding doors is, yes,
it's different. Yes, those little butterfly effect things happen and
it lands you where you are right now. But if
it didn't, you'd probably be okay.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
That it's more about the individual than it is the situation.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Yeah, I didn't mean to take your wife and children
away from you, and that hypothetical.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Well maybe I had more. I just multiple wives. If
you're out there living the other timeline.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
And waiting for the like the epiphany of this is
exactly right. That's you don't need to wait for that.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
You tell that to your younger friends or your older friend,
I mean to single friends at all. No, what do
you tell them?
Speaker 1 (15:06):
I try not to have an opinion.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
That's very strong.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Well, that's because you see me here. How what does
this show sound like if we don't have opinions?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
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(15:38):
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This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
A M. Six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on
demand on the iHeartRadio app. Well, welcome to our Weekend Fix. Yeah,
this is just we come up with this name. By
the way, is it like a heroin fix?
Speaker 2 (00:17):
I'm just gonna say there's heroin involved. We know that.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
What are we fixing? And then I realized, so maybe
it's like a drug thing, like people are in withdrawal
without the show on the weekend?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
And are we really thinking that people are?
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Why did we think that? Why did we think we
were so up here when we named the show Weekend Fix?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I mean even even we like to take a break
every once in a while.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Yeah, wouldn't it be nice, wouldn't So?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I saw this I saw this article, and I think
it's funny And without getting into too many specifics about
body count or crazy things like that, it's a story
about why psychologically, men never stop thinking about the one
relationship that got away, but that women tend to think
(01:05):
about those relationships that did run their course. That makes sense,
so men long for the thing that they never actually had.
Women may look back more romantically or more positively on
a relationship that they did have that eventually ended.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Why do you think that is?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I don't know, but it's psychology. We know that. They said.
The psychology behind it is less romantic than the feeling itself.
One of these researchers, again the psychologist, describes the phenomenon
as relationship nostalgia or in some cases sexual nostalgia, notes
that it is different depending on how somebody approaches it.
(01:47):
Men and women obviously think about these that kind of
They think about those two things very differently.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
I can understand the man's portion of it that the
men think about the one that got away, because the
one that got away usually implies that the relationship did
not run its course, that it didn't get to the
stage of I'm bitching at you all the time, like
I have not driven meeting the female, I have not
(02:14):
driven this relationship into the ground like I could, and
therefore I got away.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Yeah, Like, it.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Just shows that the relationship was cut short. So like
the woman, what didn't get to her most annoying point yet?
So that's why you look back fondly on it, because
you don't remember her being like the one who's like
and where were where were you? You said you were
going to be home at six thirty. It's seven thirty
kind of a thing. The relationship was cut off before that,
(02:42):
that portion of a relationship. So of course, when you're
in a new relationship i e. A marriage that's lasted
for ten years whatever, you're like, hmmm, remember that girl
who never gave me crap? Remember her nice? She was
so great. I wonder what happened with her that she
would never yell at me. I bet she would never
(03:02):
hold me accountable, you know what I mean? Like, that's
I think why guys look back on it, on that
one that got away, because they got away before it
got bad.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
They also describe, and it's very important the nostalgia word,
and the psychologist uses nostalgia in a very specific way,
saying that nostalgia, instead of just you know, ruminating about
something or you know, misinterpreting something that happened in your past,
that this is nostalgia tends to pull people toward positive memories,
(03:34):
which is why it's so easy to revisit some of
these things. I mean, I would I would say just
generally it's easier for you to remember the positives of
a past relationship than the negatives, right. I mean, I
think that's sort of a natural depending on the nature
of the negatives, but it's probably a natural defense mechanism.
(03:54):
You don't want to you want to ruminate on the
awful times that you had with somebody, but you can
remember the nice times, the fun time.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Yeah. And I think that's why people keep going back
to toxic relationships is because they don't remember the bad.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
They don't remember the bad stuff and the bad habits
that they got into.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
All right, because nossalgia does lean positive.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
They said, the brain isn't replaying what actually happened, it's
replaying a curated version of it. Wow. So because you
can think back accurate, you can think back and I'm
sure you're doing it. I'm thinking of any relationship I've
had in the past, free wife, like that there were
positives that had come out of it. You know, if
(04:33):
you delve into it, and you there's probably like well,
but there's clearly a reason why we are no longer together, right,
and we didn't spend our lives together.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
I look back on past relationships and I don't think
negatively about them. I just think, although I can't remember them,
just I just that was not we were not the
people for each other. You know. It was just like,
these aren't bad people. It's just that it wouldn't have
made sense in the long term.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Okay, but flip that and I'm curious also, do you
think to yourself, hey, there was that one relationship that
there might have been something there, but it never it
never came to fruition.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
I think all of them could have been worked out,
you know what I mean, It's just do you want
it to work out? How much energy do you wanted
to expend to make this work out?
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Words?
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Summer much harder? You know, everything was easy with my husband, everything,
you know, and it was just like you know, probably
with your wife too, just fell into this like nice, easy,
comfortable thing as opposed to sometimes relationships you're like, oh,
this is going to be some work. Yeah, like we
are going to be some work, and do I want
to do that work?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
There is something I mean to put a finer point
on that. I think that there was a very specific
thing about my wife that I remember was sort of
eye opening in that I was always a very sarcastic
I tried to try to be funny all the time,
and sometimes you didn't hit didn't land. I tried to
(05:57):
be sarcastic, and you know, some people got it and
some people didn't. She always got it. That's not to
say she always laughed or she always thought it was
but she always got what I was trying to do.
And that's one of those things. That was one of
those things that clicked and meshed so much better than
anything else than any previous relationship. Yeah, so that's interesting.
(06:18):
They also described this as that sort of these nostalgic
memories that we have about past relationships can actually be
positive in your current relationship because it promotes a sense
of personal growth. And that may be kind of what
you're saying as well, Like I'm a different person now
than I was back then, and it is easier for
(06:39):
me to mesh with my current partner whoever i'm with
like that. That's I've learned from my mistakes, yeah, Or
I've learned what to expect from.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Your mistakes in your current relationship.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Yeah. But that's and that's the difference is those early relationships.
If if there were mistakes that were made on whoever's part,
like you said earlier, are you willing to just are
you willing to put in that much work to fix
those things.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
They're fixable, probably sure, but do you want to do really?
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah, what's the positive on the outside of that? Whereas
with a current situation, you think to yourself, this is
worth it. We will work it out. We can put
the energy and effort that it takes to fix it
and get over it.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Basically, are you somebody's who got away? Do you think
women look back on the relationship with you fondly and
think Gary Hoffman, Well, I was never the one that
got away.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
And listen, I'm sure all guys say this. I was
never the dick. I was never the asshole. I was
never the I mean maybe that was maybe I was
too flaccid, you know, well, I mean that that way.
Oh he's a young, healthy man.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
What may that.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
I'm actually speechless.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Maybe I I don't. I don't know. I mean, I don't.
I hope people look back finally and they're like, oh,
he's a nice guy. Yeah, But it's not like they're like, Wow,
that guy was a no.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
I mean like sometimes you leave relationships and you're like, oh,
I should have stuck with that guy. You know, is
there somebody in a domestic violent situation that wishes they
had the nice placid guy.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Seriously, because I'm going through it, I'm like, well, probably
not her, and I.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Think she's okay.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
One's in Alaska. Last I saw, Uh yeah, one of
the exotic named ones was driving a school bus in Alaska.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
So real. Yeah, so that sounds like a fun existence.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Oh my gosh, what a no, what a fun existence.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Peaceful if you like children, You're in Alaska. It's beautiful,
relatively low stress.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
You're just driving a bu beautiful for about two months
a year.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Probably, Well, she wasn't for you, Clearly she was not.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
That's why it ended. One person says that he cheated
on a girlfriend in college and has spent years watching
her build the life that she wanted with someone else.
And he says the worst part is knowing that she
didn't get away. I let her go.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
His current wife is a lucky lady.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
That okay, So this okay, to go back to the beginning.
I think that's funny because, like we said, that nostalgia,
imagine that, well, that nostalgia can can provide you some
sort of perspective of I'm not that same person. I've
learned how to control my emotions I've learned asked the question.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
I was just quoted as saying, I look back on
the girl I cheated on, and she lives in my
head because that could have been me. But I'm a
dick and now I'm currently with somebody and thinking about
the girl that I cheated on. It's awful.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Well, maybe he's doing it as a way to reflect
and say to himself, don't do that again. Maybe that's
what he's learning from it.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Maybe why is he spend so much time thinking about
the girl he cheated on her life.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Is does he knows she's rebuilding her life in the
way that Yeah, maybe that's a tattoo.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
That's a competitive data right there. That's a I want
to be the best. I want the best. She wasn't
the best, so he went and cheated on her. And
now he's like, ah, that life looks better than mine.
Should have stuck with that because I want the best.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Life is not a competition.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
No, you got to be pretty satisfied with what you got.
You do, not that you have to do.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
That's pretty much the secret to life.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
You don't have to settle, but you also have to
understand that that there you have a lot of gifts here.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
All you need and more.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
You are enough.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
I'm more than enough, trust me. Yeah, I know. I'd
like to take a little bit and set it aside.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Back channel chat between aay next guys forty years.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
I like to take half and just stick with this half.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Every once in a while, send them a text. It's
just a warning. And she's on fire today.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Good luck. Maybe say at work a little while.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I tried to take three hours out of her, and
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
I think it's pretty safe to say I'm no one's
the one that got away. No, that's not true, because
here's the other thing.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
You and I are in a space where it's going
to be easier for some if they were to look
you up. I mean to do a quick search on.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
The old Yeah, that's a great that's also I mean,
someone's gonna see you.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
They're going to see that you host a show in
Los Angeles, that you're a sideline reporter for an NFL team,
and they would know, they would know that that was
one of the things that you've always wanted to do.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Love.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
I mean, it's an incredible job.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
I love the lipstick you whipped out to put on
this pig. It is a vast array of different hues.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Well, maybe like that one guy Ahan, Maybe he's.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Like, that's his name, the guy that cheated on his
girlfriend ahan Ahn. Yeah, let's look him up.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
No, I can. I just to picture him already in
my head and I don't need to. They said that
the problem with nostalgia is when it gets into into fixation. Yeah,
it's okay to miss people. It's okay to sort of
in a way romanticize that, you know, old day when
I was twenty two or whatever.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Yeah, but that's the thing. It's like, you that relationship,
if you look back on the one that got away fondly,
you have no idea what that would have become.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Right, it changes what's the what's.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
The sliding doors?
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Thank you? The Gwyneth Paltrow movie I'm thinking of, Uh,
never saw it, but I know what it's about. Yeah,
and that is I laugh about this all the time.
My wife, But when we first met, she was seriously
considering taking a job at a bank that would have
probably moved her to Dallas within months of us meeting.
(13:08):
And I'm not saying I was the reason that she
didn't go, But what if the timing was different by
thirty days, by two weeks or whatever, and she decides
to high tail it and live in Texas.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Would have been fine, you both would have I mean,
that's the thing, that's the whole sliding doors thing. Yeah,
just to remove the romanticism away from everybody. You're gonna
be all right, you know, the whole like there's one
person for you and that's it is complete bullshit. Well,
you're gonna be fine. You've got a good head on
your shoulders, you're a good person. You're gonna meet somebody.
(13:44):
And that's the whole thing about dating is stop waiting
for the lightning bolder perfection, Like you're gonna be fine,
You're gonna do great no matter who you're with.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
But did you ever spend time thinking about that, Like
where you would be today if you'd never met your husband? Yeah,
I meant the trial that you were covering. I mean, right,
because I said this multiple time, I don't think I
would have left Chico. I would have been perfectly fine
living in a college town.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
And you would have been fine. You would be a
professor or something and work at the radio station on
the side, and you'd have a wife, and you'd have
a couple.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Kids'd be George Benson.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
And be fine. The thing of with sliding doors is, yes,
it's different. Yes, those little butterfly effect things happen and
it lands you where you are right now. But if
it didn't, you'd probably be okay.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
That it's more about the individual than it is the situation.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Yeah, I didn't mean to take your wife and children
away from you, and that hypothetical.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Well maybe I had more. I just multiple wives. If
you're out there living the other timeline.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
And waiting for the like the epiphany of this is
exactly right. That's you don't need to wait for that.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
You tell that to your younger friends or your older friend,
I mean to single friends at all. No, what do
you tell them?
Speaker 1 (15:06):
I try not to have an opinion.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
That's very strong.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Well, that's because you see me here. How what does
this show sound like if we don't have opinions?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
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(15:38):
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