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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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And this is KFI Bill Handle here. It is a
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Now I got you.
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Eight hundred five two zero one five three four. I
don't know how to turn on a cell phone.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
For those of you that.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Have heard me talk for years and years and years,
I don't know how cell phones even work for me.
If a telephone doesn't have a wire going into the wall,
I go, how is this possible? Also, one of the
other things I want to point out is that you
notice how loud I am. Well, you know, they pod
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all the way down. I'm very very loud when I talk.
And that's because I don't understand how microphones and radio work.
Since people can listen to me hundreds and hundreds of
miles away. I scream because I'm figuring if someone is
seventy five miles away, hey, you know what, I've got
to yell so they can hear me. So so much
for that eight hundred five two zero one five three four.
(02:24):
This is handle on the law, marginal legal advice, where
I tell you have absolutely no case.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Ooh, this is a great one. Russia.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
You know, we're really into a pissing mass with Russia.
And one of the things about Google and these platforms
is what is Europe is so much tougher on these
platforms American platforms, Google, the Amazon platform that they YouTube,
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et cetera, that they really come down hard. And what
ends up happening is something that is being litigated. For example,
you've got Google acting inappropriately in the sense that they're
getting too much information, they're sharing information with advertisers without
telling people about it, any one of these issues that here.
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Basically it's allowed by law. You've got lawsuits going back
and forth, but still it's in litigation. Europe, they just
shut it down. You're done. You simply can't do this.
Those are the laws. Well, Russia did something with YouTube
and Google. Specifically, what Google did is remove Russian state
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run government YouTube channels here in the United States because
of election interference, because they thought that the Russian YouTube
channels were inappropriate. And so what YouTube did is just
shut it down. That's all You're done. You can't post
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on YouTube. So Russia is fine, So we're going to
fine you. We're fining you Google twenty undecillion rubles about
two point five decillion rubles for removing that channel.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
So what is.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Twenty undecillion rubles, It's two point five trillion trillion, trillion dollars,
and I'm looking at here in figures, it's two five
followed by I don't know, twenty something zeros. And by
the way, if Google doesn't pay this fine within nine months,
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it doubles every day thereafter with no upper limit, so
it will go into well, the number of stars there
are in the universe, how many universes there are? I mean,
so Google is going to be locked out of Russia
until it pays the fine, which, of course, how can it.
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So it turns out that based on the company's profit
globally last year, which was huge, huge, seventy three billion dollars,
it'll take Google thirty three point eight quintillion years to
pay the fine, and then it goes to sixty six
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quintillion years to pay the fine.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Yeah, that's terrific.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
You know, welcome to the fight between Russia and the
United States. At the same time, you know the numbers.
I mean, this is so ludicrous that it's actually I
think this they got this from a Saturday Night Live skit.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
They had to all right, we'll take a break.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
And then we will come back and start with the
phone calls. This is handle on the law, and this
is KFI. It is a Saturday morning right up until
eleven o'clock when Richdmurrow comes aboard.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
And then it's Neil Savayra.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
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rich Tomorrow. But I have to say that that's in
my contract. Eight hundred and five to two zero one, five,
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three four. All right, this is handle on the Law,
and let's start.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Albert. Hello, Albert, Welcome, Hello Albert.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Go ahead. Okay, So my sisters were the power of
attorney guardians of my ninety five year old mother. My
dad passed away a few more.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Power of attorney or guardian or both? Which one is it?
Because there's a legal difference.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
We both re ordered the Vermont and did a guardian town.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Okay, So they have a guardianship and they have a
power of attorney, right, yes, Okay, got it.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
And they made her write a new will. I never
knew about it till she died. But the thing that
my question is this, everybody in the family knew that
I wanted to buy their shares of the house, and
they sold the house. The attorney that wrote me a
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letter said you can bet on the house like everybody else,
But that wasn't the convenience for me. I had to
take out thirty years of tools. I worked on the
house for twenty years with my dad. He fixed the house,
and I was also the health care protancy for twenty
four years. Well, they were both out of state, so
the family knew I wanted to buy the house. Pay
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them each of two hundred and fifty K for the
value of the house.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Okay, that was the full value. That's the full value
of the house that you were willing to pay.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
And and they put the money in an account, gifted
themselves one hundred and thirty k each, and they took
control of the equity and took.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Okay, hang on, hang on, they took the money. They
took your money, right.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
They took the money from the house.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yes, oh okay, so they are okay. Where did they
get the money from the house? Did they sell the house?
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Okay, so they hope. Are they all right?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
So the house was sold by the guardian slash power
of attorney which okay, Vermont, I will accept it because
I don't know Vermont law. But okay, all right, so
they sold the house, so you weren't able to put
twenty five thousand dollars in or two hundred fifty thousand
dollars in, right, you just you weren't able to put
the money in because they had already sold the house.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Do I have that right?
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Yeah, yes, what's your question, Albert?
Speaker 3 (09:07):
My question is did the lawyer send me the correct
information saying you could get on the house like everybody else?
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (09:17):
As opposed?
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Sure, because the part.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Where the part that everybody knew means nothing. That means
absolutely nothing legally. It's what that document says. That's what
that document says.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Now.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
The fact that you put piles of money into the house, Okay,
there's there may be something there under something called quantum
marrow it where it's outside.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Of any written agreement.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
It's just what's fair. The fact that they sold the house.
The guardian in this probably a trustee here or be
an executor. They have absolute power to do that. They
can do anything they want because it's their house. It's
like your family member that owns the house. So yeah,
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so the lawyer is absolutely right. Now you may want
to contact a lawyer and say there was some kind
of agreement. The other part problem you have is anything
dealing with real estate has to be in writing, and
verbal agreements mean nothing in real estate.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
It's all what's written on documents.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Now, the guardianship when it came in, when did it
come in?
Speaker 1 (10:37):
How lucid was I think was your grandma?
Speaker 3 (10:42):
No? It was my mother?
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Okay, your mother? How lucid was she when the guardianship
came in?
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Ninety four years old? They took her from her New
York state home, and I said, she wants to stay here?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yeah, okay, but here's the problem. If they have the power,
why didn't she give you the power?
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Because she didn't know.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Okay, So now you have a different issue.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Now you're going to argue that the very guardianship that
they filed was fraudulent, that it was under coercion, she
didn't know what she was signing. So and you're can
try to unravel everything and is that possible?
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yeah? Probably.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
So you're gonna need a lawyer on this one, probably
a trust and estate lawyer that can come in. I mean,
it is a real complicated mess. But the strongest argument
you have is you are the son and you should
have had the ability. That's what you understood, and it
didn't happen because they took advantage of her age and
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That's the strongest argument you have.
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This is Handle on the Law.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
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Speaker 2 (13:19):
KFI AM six forty Handle Here we continue on eight
hundred five to zero one five three four.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Welcome back. Handle on the Law Marginal Legal Advice.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Oh okay, Richard, Hello Richard, you're up?
Speaker 1 (13:35):
What can I do for you?
Speaker 5 (13:37):
Hi? My girlfriend was in an all FHLA accident and
I think I spoke to about her before. Except for
about three million dollars worth of injuries and the eighteen
year old nineteen year old who hit her accept the responsibility,
they settled. She got a lawyer. They settled for about
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hundred thousand dollars in insurance. She got a third of that.
She is pretty much crippled for life.
Speaker 6 (14:06):
And.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
The lawyer did not, as far as I know, attempt
to attach his future wages the car.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Okay, here's the problem, Okay, here is the problem. Is
that your girlfriend settled for two hundred thousand dollars through
her lawyer. And now we'll talk about the lawyer in
a moment, and that means she agreed to that money
and the driver is now off the hook. I settle,
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and I agree that whoever did me wrong is no
longer responsible.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
I'm done with suing. That's a settlement, Okay, I'm well
aware of that, all right. So there's two things. Two
things that you have to ask.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
What were the policy limits for that insurance policy?
Speaker 3 (14:55):
And the maximum?
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Okay, that's the maximum, all right, So you can't get anymore. Now.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
The only thing you could have done is not accept
that and go ahead and sue the driver for three
million dollars or more. But that means you don't accept
the settlement, which she could have done. She goes, I
want to go to trial. Now, where does a nineteen
year old come up with the millions of dollars.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Of future earnings?
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Doesn't work that? Then you know, you get and goes
bankrupt on you.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
By the way, just to let you know, if I'm
nineteen and I'm being sued for three million dollars.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
That day I file for bankruptcy and I'm off the hook.
So what are you doing?
Speaker 2 (15:39):
By the way, future earnings, what do you think a
nineteen year old is going to earn over a lifetime?
Because remember, the nineteen year old at twenty or thirty
gets to live, so gets to pay rent, gets to eat,
and how many people. Let's say he makes fifty thousand
dollars a year, Well, you're gonna get ten thousand dollars
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a year, assuming that you get a judgment and you
get and you can garnish wages. Future earnings, all right,
ten thousand dollars a year, all right, over the course
of what ten years, that's one hundred thousand dollars. Over
the course of fifty years, that's five hundred thousand dollars
and that and you're getting no money. Now, keep in mind,
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there's no place to go, Richard, there's no place to go.
It's she just got two hundred thousand dollars. Now, the
lawyer may have gotten two hundred thousand dollars for doing
absolutely nothing.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
You probably could have gone directly the insurance company.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
They would they would have written a check instantly for
the entire policy limits, and the lawyer wouldn't have gotten
anything but that.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
You have to know away in advance, and that phone call.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
To attaches shouldn't have the lawyer attempted to attach his wages.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Yeah, and not take a settle and not take a settle. Okay,
well maybe, but she's the one that agreed to it.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Was she coerced lawyer hold it.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
She wasn't advised there was another option, which but if you're.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Talking about a nineteen year old, there is no other option.
She'll never see anywhere near two hundred thousand dollars, especially
right now.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
Well, she would benefit from ten thousand dollars a year.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
That's what she gets up.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
She's getting a third of two hundred thousand right now.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
And by the way, we don't know if it's ten
thousand dollars a year. Maybe it's five thousand dollars a year.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
Or maybe it's thirty thousand dollars year.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Maybe maybe, but that's over ten years. See the lawyer.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
What did she see the lawyer for not advising her?
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Probably not, probably not.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
No, it's just, you know, as horrible as it is
is that sometimes there is just bad luck and that's
what happened.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
It would have been better to get hit by an
Amazon truck or a Coca Cola truck. Yeah, you know,
it's it's.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Tough, it is, you know, I mean sometimes, you know,
you know, I get calls. I got hit by an
undocumented guy who has no insurance.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
What do I do? You're out of luck? Oh and
I don't have any uninsured motors insurance. You're out of luck. Andre, Hey, Andre, welcome.
Speaker 7 (18:26):
And yeah, the city came through and put up these
parking signs because a couple of the neighbors at the
end of the block and called up and complained about
too many vehicles being parked on the block.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Not curiously enough.
Speaker 8 (18:40):
The no parking signs to stop just prior to their property,
but everywhere else on both sides of the street there's
no parking. And plus they didn't post any notice that
they were going to.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
All right, so what's your question? What's your question? And
no park that's what you can do about it. Don't
park or you're going to get a ticket.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
The city has the absolute right to do that unless
it is capricious for absolutely no reason and putting up
no parking on the street. Let me tell you that
can be justified anytime by the city. So you don't
park there, and if it's not in front of them,
you call the city and you insist that it go
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in front of them, and they will. The city will say, yeah,
you're right, it shouldn't be exempt. So they throw up
parking signs in front of their house. Easy, that's what
you do. Nothing else. I want to stop the city
from doing that.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
You can't.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
No.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
No, the city has the absolute right to say there's
no parking here, no stopping here, no parking here from
eight am to three pm, no overnight parking. They have
every right to do that. That's the way the cities work.
This is Handle on the Law.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
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Speaker 2 (20:07):
Right up until eleven o'clock phone number eight hundred and
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Speaker 1 (20:15):
Welcome back. Handle on the Law. Marginal Legal Advice.
Speaker 6 (20:22):
Hello Mary, oh hi, thank you very much for taking
my call. Can you hear me? Okay?
Speaker 1 (20:29):
I can hear you?
Speaker 6 (20:30):
Okay, okay, lovely long story. I wound up in a
house and moved in November of twenty twenty one, nice
little town.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Near a lake.
Speaker 6 (20:44):
The property there was a giant estate that was subdivided
into one acre plots in I think the nineteen thirties,
and they all had these dated beach rights, which I
noticed as I was going through the real estate transaction,
but I didn't really care. It was COVID and I
needed a house and here I am. So then I
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get here, move in. I own it outright, no mortgage.
Someone shows up on my doorstep with a bill for
five hundred dollars from the Lake Association, saying you owe
us dues and back dues because you're part of this
lake association. I disagreed. I've never seen the beach. I
didn't intend to use the beach.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Okay, hang on, hang on, hold on, Okay, So this
is access to the beach.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
There's a line on your property.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Correct, your property is to whatever extent people are using
that particular area to go to the beach, and you
belong and you have.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
By the way, have they been doing that forever?
Speaker 6 (21:50):
The association, from what I gather I get mailings, has
been around at least twenty thirty years.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Well so wait, wait a minute.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Just because you don't go to the beach, you know
there's an hoa there and you don't pay dues into
your HOA every year?
Speaker 6 (22:04):
Well it is? What is it?
Speaker 5 (22:08):
So?
Speaker 6 (22:08):
I do not have direct access to the beach I
drove by.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
And okay, okay, we're going to do that in a minute.
But let me ask you.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
You say it's not an HOA, is it any kind
of an organization or just someone shows up and says
there's an organization and I want five hundred dollars.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
There does appear to be an organization from what I've gathered,
And now I've received two nasty emails from a new
treasurer with an attachment of bylaws stating we've tried to
notify you, okay.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
If there is an HOA or equivalent. I noticed that
this was in Connecticut. That's what the computer says. So
I don't know if they haven't the way we do
in California. But if you are part of an HOA
Y or not, then then on what basis If you're
not part of an HOA, if you don't belong to it,
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how do they And I'm telling you right now, they
can't come up to you arbitrarily and say you owe
money of an organization you not, you're not part of
Why did they come to my house and say, building,
you own money. But I go, I'm not part of
what you do.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
It doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
The our organization says you owe money and I'll pay us.
That's the part I don't understand.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Mary.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Well, I think from what i've the little research that
I've done about dated beach rights, because these fifteen properties
that were subdivided that are near this little if you
want to use it, you can use it beach. When
you buy the property, you are it includes Okay.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
So you so you were informed that there is some
kind of an organization because you bought the property with
this in the deed.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
Right.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Okay, So how can you say you didn't know just
because I read it?
Speaker 6 (23:58):
Well, when I did the research to try to understand,
because I was surprised afterwards, I did not know this
organization existed.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Okay, well, you agree to it, you but you agreed
to it when you bought the property.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
But right, But when I did the research, it looks
to me like it's the opposite. In other words, if
you buy property that has deeded beach rights, it gives
you automatic access to that beach.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Okay, so you have access to the beach.
Speaker 6 (24:28):
Okay, now what, Well, that's what I think, but I
want to know with certainty because I'm getting hounded by
these folks.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
I understand.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
But if that's the organization that is allowed to do that,
dealing with the deeded rights or the Eastman, they have
a right to do that. You own the money, you
know what. I'm part of an HOA, whether I know
it or not. I was told that was part of
the HOA. And they come around and they'll say, hey,
you didn't pay your dues, or we don't like the
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way you're doing your shrubbery.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
We want to change it. They have every right to
do that. Mary, in the fact that you don't use
the beach, who cares?
Speaker 6 (25:09):
Yeah, yeah, okay, well thank you.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
You got it. Yeah, that was weird. I don't use
the beach. Really crazy stuff.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
Lance high Lance, Hi Bill, how are you?
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Yes, Sarah? What can I do for you?
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Well? There was.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
What there was, and the conversation is over. Okay, let
me put Lance on hold there and if I can't, no,
it's oh, it's not happening on the hold.
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Okay, you know what. Let me go ahead and we're
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And this is KFI Bill Handle here. It is a
Saturday morning, and we've got another two hours to go
for the show, and so we've still got a lot
to talk about the election coming up on Tuesday, and
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I'll be talking about a lot of that on the
morning show for sure. So let me give you some
phone numbers real quick. Eight hundred five to zero one
five three four, eight hundred and five to zero one
five three four. That's the number to call, and always
at the top of the hour. It is the best
(00:49):
time to call. By the way, Sam, my computer board
is screwing up until I get it fixed out, so
I can't see the phone numbers, so you're going to
have to just tell me what and who is on
there until I get it fixed on the next break,
so you'll say, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Here comes Susan with an idiotic call. Here comes Oh,
may see if I can get it fixed here I
have okay, yeah, I got it, I got it. I
got it.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Okay, I have my tech person here who is handling
this for me. Thanks Lindsey, because I yeah, I know,
I can't even straighten this out, Okay, now I got you.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Now I got you.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Eight hundred five two zero one five three four. I
don't know how to turn on a cell phone.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
For those of you that.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Have heard me talk for years and years and years,
I don't know how cell phones even work for me.
If a telephone doesn't have a wire going into the wall,
I go, how is this possible? Also, one of the
other things I want to point out is that you
notice how loud I am. Well, you know, they pod
(02:00):
all the way down. I'm very very loud when I talk.
And that's because I don't understand how microphones and radio work.
Since people can listen to me hundreds and hundreds of
miles away. I scream because I'm figuring if someone is
seventy five miles away, hey, you know what, I've got
to yell so they can hear me. So so much
for that eight hundred five two zero one five three four.
(02:24):
This is handle on the law, marginal legal advice, where
I tell you have absolutely no case.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Ooh, this is a great one. Russia.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
You know, we're really into a pissing mass with Russia.
And one of the things about Google and these platforms
is what is Europe is so much tougher on these
platforms American platforms, Google, the Amazon platform that they YouTube,
(02:55):
et cetera, that they really come down hard. And what
ends up happening is something that is being litigated. For example,
you've got Google acting inappropriately in the sense that they're
getting too much information, they're sharing information with advertisers without
telling people about it, any one of these issues that here.
(03:20):
Basically it's allowed by law. You've got lawsuits going back
and forth, but still it's in litigation. Europe, they just
shut it down. You're done. You simply can't do this.
Those are the laws. Well, Russia did something with YouTube
and Google. Specifically, what Google did is remove Russian state
(03:44):
run government YouTube channels here in the United States because
of election interference, because they thought that the Russian YouTube
channels were inappropriate. And so what YouTube did is just
shut it down. That's all You're done. You can't post
(04:08):
on YouTube. So Russia is fine, So we're going to
fine you. We're fining you Google twenty undecillion rubles about
two point five decillion rubles for removing that channel.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
So what is.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Twenty undecillion rubles, It's two point five trillion trillion, trillion dollars,
and I'm looking at here in figures, it's two five
followed by I don't know, twenty something zeros. And by
the way, if Google doesn't pay this fine within nine months,
(04:52):
it doubles every day thereafter with no upper limit, so
it will go into well, the number of stars there
are in the universe, how many universes there are? I mean,
so Google is going to be locked out of Russia
until it pays the fine, which, of course, how can it.
(05:13):
So it turns out that based on the company's profit
globally last year, which was huge, huge, seventy three billion dollars,
it'll take Google thirty three point eight quintillion years to
pay the fine, and then it goes to sixty six
(05:35):
quintillion years to pay the fine.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Yeah, that's terrific.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
You know, welcome to the fight between Russia and the
United States. At the same time, you know the numbers.
I mean, this is so ludicrous that it's actually I
think this they got this from a Saturday Night Live skit.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
They had to all right, we'll take a break.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
And then we will come back and start with the
phone calls. This is handle on the law, and this
is KFI. It is a Saturday morning right up until
eleven o'clock when Richdmurrow comes aboard.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
And then it's Neil Savayra.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Neil from two to five with the Fok Report, and
then tonight seven and nine Unsolved Steve Gregory probably the
most unique show out there. I'm such a huge fan
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rich Tomorrow. But I have to say that that's in
my contract. Eight hundred and five to two zero one, five,
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three four. All right, this is handle on the Law,
and let's start.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Albert. Hello, Albert, Welcome, Hello Albert.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Go ahead. Okay, So my sisters were the power of
attorney guardians of my ninety five year old mother. My
dad passed away a few more.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Power of attorney or guardian or both? Which one is it?
Because there's a legal difference.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
We both re ordered the Vermont and did a guardian town.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Okay, So they have a guardianship and they have a
power of attorney, right, yes, Okay, got it.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
And they made her write a new will. I never
knew about it till she died. But the thing that
my question is this, everybody in the family knew that
I wanted to buy their shares of the house, and
they sold the house. The attorney that wrote me a
(07:38):
letter said you can bet on the house like everybody else,
But that wasn't the convenience for me. I had to
take out thirty years of tools. I worked on the
house for twenty years with my dad. He fixed the house,
and I was also the health care protancy for twenty
four years. Well, they were both out of state, so
the family knew I wanted to buy the house. Pay
(07:59):
them each of two hundred and fifty K for the
value of the house.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Okay, that was the full value. That's the full value
of the house that you were willing to pay.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
And and they put the money in an account, gifted
themselves one hundred and thirty k each, and they took
control of the equity and took.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Okay, hang on, hang on, they took the money. They
took your money, right.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
They took the money from the house.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yes, oh okay, so they are okay. Where did they
get the money from the house? Did they sell the house?
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Okay, so they hope. Are they all right?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
So the house was sold by the guardian slash power
of attorney which okay, Vermont, I will accept it because
I don't know Vermont law. But okay, all right, so
they sold the house, so you weren't able to put
twenty five thousand dollars in or two hundred fifty thousand
dollars in, right, you just you weren't able to put
the money in because they had already sold the house.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Do I have that right?
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Yeah, yes, what's your question, Albert?
Speaker 3 (09:07):
My question is did the lawyer send me the correct
information saying you could get on the house like everybody else?
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (09:17):
As opposed?
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Sure, because the part.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Where the part that everybody knew means nothing. That means
absolutely nothing legally. It's what that document says. That's what
that document says.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Now.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
The fact that you put piles of money into the house, Okay,
there's there may be something there under something called quantum
marrow it where it's outside.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Of any written agreement.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
It's just what's fair. The fact that they sold the house.
The guardian in this probably a trustee here or be
an executor. They have absolute power to do that. They
can do anything they want because it's their house. It's
like your family member that owns the house. So yeah,
(10:08):
so the lawyer is absolutely right. Now you may want
to contact a lawyer and say there was some kind
of agreement. The other part problem you have is anything
dealing with real estate has to be in writing, and
verbal agreements mean nothing in real estate.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
It's all what's written on documents.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Now, the guardianship when it came in, when did it
come in?
Speaker 1 (10:37):
How lucid was I think was your grandma?
Speaker 3 (10:42):
No? It was my mother?
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Okay, your mother? How lucid was she when the guardianship
came in?
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Ninety four years old? They took her from her New
York state home, and I said, she wants to stay here?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yeah, okay, but here's the problem. If they have the power,
why didn't she give you the power?
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Because she didn't know.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Okay, So now you have a different issue.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Now you're going to argue that the very guardianship that
they filed was fraudulent, that it was under coercion, she
didn't know what she was signing. So and you're can
try to unravel everything and is that possible?
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yeah? Probably.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
So you're gonna need a lawyer on this one, probably
a trust and estate lawyer that can come in. I mean,
it is a real complicated mess. But the strongest argument
you have is you are the son and you should
have had the ability. That's what you understood, and it
didn't happen because they took advantage of her age and
(11:41):
her inability to understand.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
That's the strongest argument you have.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
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This is Handle on the Law.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
KFI AM six forty Handle Here we continue on eight
hundred five to zero one five three four.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Welcome back. Handle on the Law Marginal Legal Advice.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Oh okay, Richard, Hello Richard, you're up?
Speaker 1 (13:35):
What can I do for you?
Speaker 5 (13:37):
Hi? My girlfriend was in an all FHLA accident and
I think I spoke to about her before. Except for
about three million dollars worth of injuries and the eighteen
year old nineteen year old who hit her accept the responsibility,
they settled. She got a lawyer. They settled for about
(14:00):
hundred thousand dollars in insurance. She got a third of that.
She is pretty much crippled for life.
Speaker 6 (14:06):
And.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
The lawyer did not, as far as I know, attempt
to attach his future wages the car.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Okay, here's the problem, Okay, here is the problem. Is
that your girlfriend settled for two hundred thousand dollars through
her lawyer. And now we'll talk about the lawyer in
a moment, and that means she agreed to that money
and the driver is now off the hook. I settle,
(14:36):
and I agree that whoever did me wrong is no
longer responsible.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
I'm done with suing. That's a settlement, Okay, I'm well
aware of that, all right. So there's two things. Two
things that you have to ask.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
What were the policy limits for that insurance policy?
Speaker 3 (14:55):
And the maximum?
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Okay, that's the maximum, all right, So you can't get anymore. Now.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
The only thing you could have done is not accept
that and go ahead and sue the driver for three
million dollars or more. But that means you don't accept
the settlement, which she could have done. She goes, I
want to go to trial. Now, where does a nineteen
year old come up with the millions of dollars.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Of future earnings?
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Doesn't work that? Then you know, you get and goes
bankrupt on you.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
By the way, just to let you know, if I'm
nineteen and I'm being sued for three million dollars.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
That day I file for bankruptcy and I'm off the hook.
So what are you doing?
Speaker 2 (15:39):
By the way, future earnings, what do you think a
nineteen year old is going to earn over a lifetime?
Because remember, the nineteen year old at twenty or thirty
gets to live, so gets to pay rent, gets to eat,
and how many people. Let's say he makes fifty thousand
dollars a year, Well, you're gonna get ten thousand dollars
(16:02):
a year, assuming that you get a judgment and you
get and you can garnish wages. Future earnings, all right,
ten thousand dollars a year, all right, over the course
of what ten years, that's one hundred thousand dollars. Over
the course of fifty years, that's five hundred thousand dollars
and that and you're getting no money. Now, keep in mind,
(16:24):
there's no place to go, Richard, there's no place to go.
It's she just got two hundred thousand dollars. Now, the
lawyer may have gotten two hundred thousand dollars for doing
absolutely nothing.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
You probably could have gone directly the insurance company.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
They would they would have written a check instantly for
the entire policy limits, and the lawyer wouldn't have gotten
anything but that.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
You have to know away in advance, and that phone call.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
To attaches shouldn't have the lawyer attempted to attach his wages.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Yeah, and not take a settle and not take a settle. Okay,
well maybe, but she's the one that agreed to it.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Was she coerced lawyer hold it.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
She wasn't advised there was another option, which but if you're.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Talking about a nineteen year old, there is no other option.
She'll never see anywhere near two hundred thousand dollars, especially
right now.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
Well, she would benefit from ten thousand dollars a year.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
That's what she gets up.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
She's getting a third of two hundred thousand right now.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
And by the way, we don't know if it's ten
thousand dollars a year. Maybe it's five thousand dollars a year.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
Or maybe it's thirty thousand dollars year.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Maybe maybe, but that's over ten years. See the lawyer.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
What did she see the lawyer for not advising her?
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Probably not, probably not.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
No, it's just, you know, as horrible as it is
is that sometimes there is just bad luck and that's
what happened.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
It would have been better to get hit by an
Amazon truck or a Coca Cola truck. Yeah, you know,
it's it's.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Tough, it is, you know, I mean sometimes, you know,
you know, I get calls. I got hit by an
undocumented guy who has no insurance.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
What do I do? You're out of luck? Oh and
I don't have any uninsured motors insurance. You're out of luck. Andre, Hey, Andre, welcome.
Speaker 7 (18:26):
And yeah, the city came through and put up these
parking signs because a couple of the neighbors at the
end of the block and called up and complained about
too many vehicles being parked on the block.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Not curiously enough.
Speaker 8 (18:40):
The no parking signs to stop just prior to their property,
but everywhere else on both sides of the street there's
no parking. And plus they didn't post any notice that
they were going to.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
All right, so what's your question? What's your question? And
no park that's what you can do about it. Don't
park or you're going to get a ticket.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
The city has the absolute right to do that unless
it is capricious for absolutely no reason and putting up
no parking on the street. Let me tell you that
can be justified anytime by the city. So you don't
park there, and if it's not in front of them,
you call the city and you insist that it go
(19:30):
in front of them, and they will. The city will say, yeah,
you're right, it shouldn't be exempt. So they throw up
parking signs in front of their house. Easy, that's what
you do. Nothing else. I want to stop the city
from doing that.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
You can't.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
No.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
No, the city has the absolute right to say there's
no parking here, no stopping here, no parking here from
eight am to three pm, no overnight parking. They have
every right to do that. That's the way the cities work.
This is Handle on the Law.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
I am security. Go handle on a Saturday morning.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Right up until eleven o'clock phone number eight hundred and
five to two zero one five three four.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Welcome back. Handle on the Law. Marginal Legal Advice.
Speaker 6 (20:22):
Hello Mary, oh hi, thank you very much for taking
my call. Can you hear me? Okay?
Speaker 1 (20:29):
I can hear you?
Speaker 6 (20:30):
Okay, okay, lovely long story. I wound up in a
house and moved in November of twenty twenty one, nice
little town.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Near a lake.
Speaker 6 (20:44):
The property there was a giant estate that was subdivided
into one acre plots in I think the nineteen thirties,
and they all had these dated beach rights, which I
noticed as I was going through the real estate transaction,
but I didn't really care. It was COVID and I
needed a house and here I am. So then I
(21:07):
get here, move in. I own it outright, no mortgage.
Someone shows up on my doorstep with a bill for
five hundred dollars from the Lake Association, saying you owe
us dues and back dues because you're part of this
lake association. I disagreed. I've never seen the beach. I
didn't intend to use the beach.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Okay, hang on, hang on, hold on, Okay, So this
is access to the beach.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
There's a line on your property.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Correct, your property is to whatever extent people are using
that particular area to go to the beach, and you
belong and you have.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
By the way, have they been doing that forever?
Speaker 6 (21:50):
The association, from what I gather I get mailings, has
been around at least twenty thirty years.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Well so wait, wait a minute.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Just because you don't go to the beach, you know
there's an hoa there and you don't pay dues into
your HOA every year?
Speaker 6 (22:04):
Well it is? What is it?
Speaker 5 (22:08):
So?
Speaker 6 (22:08):
I do not have direct access to the beach I
drove by.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
And okay, okay, we're going to do that in a minute.
But let me ask you.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
You say it's not an HOA, is it any kind
of an organization or just someone shows up and says
there's an organization and I want five hundred dollars.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
There does appear to be an organization from what I've gathered,
And now I've received two nasty emails from a new
treasurer with an attachment of bylaws stating we've tried to
notify you, okay.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
If there is an HOA or equivalent. I noticed that
this was in Connecticut. That's what the computer says. So
I don't know if they haven't the way we do
in California. But if you are part of an HOA
Y or not, then then on what basis If you're
not part of an HOA, if you don't belong to it,
(23:03):
how do they And I'm telling you right now, they
can't come up to you arbitrarily and say you owe
money of an organization you not, you're not part of
Why did they come to my house and say, building,
you own money. But I go, I'm not part of
what you do.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
It doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
The our organization says you owe money and I'll pay us.
That's the part I don't understand.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Mary.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Well, I think from what i've the little research that
I've done about dated beach rights, because these fifteen properties
that were subdivided that are near this little if you
want to use it, you can use it beach. When
you buy the property, you are it includes Okay.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
So you so you were informed that there is some
kind of an organization because you bought the property with
this in the deed.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
Right.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Okay, So how can you say you didn't know just
because I read it?
Speaker 6 (23:58):
Well, when I did the research to try to understand,
because I was surprised afterwards, I did not know this
organization existed.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Okay, well, you agree to it, you but you agreed
to it when you bought the property.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
But right, But when I did the research, it looks
to me like it's the opposite. In other words, if
you buy property that has deeded beach rights, it gives
you automatic access to that beach.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Okay, so you have access to the beach.
Speaker 6 (24:28):
Okay, now what, Well, that's what I think, but I
want to know with certainty because I'm getting hounded by
these folks.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
I understand.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
But if that's the organization that is allowed to do that,
dealing with the deeded rights or the Eastman, they have
a right to do that. You own the money, you
know what. I'm part of an HOA, whether I know
it or not. I was told that was part of
the HOA. And they come around and they'll say, hey,
you didn't pay your dues, or we don't like the
(25:01):
way you're doing your shrubbery.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
We want to change it. They have every right to
do that. Mary, in the fact that you don't use
the beach, who cares?
Speaker 6 (25:09):
Yeah, yeah, okay, well thank you.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
You got it. Yeah, that was weird. I don't use
the beach. Really crazy stuff.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
Lance high Lance, Hi Bill, how are you?
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Yes, Sarah? What can I do for you?
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Well? There was.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
What there was, and the conversation is over. Okay, let
me put Lance on hold there and if I can't, no,
it's oh, it's not happening on the hold.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Okay, you know what. Let me go ahead and we're
going to take a little bit early break.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
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