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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listenings KFI AM six forty. The Bill handles show
on demand on the iHeartRadio f This was the case
a lot of people got upset about. I certainly did.
And this had to do with the president arguing that
the government was weaponized by Joe Biden against him, and

(00:23):
when he was investigated by the federal authorities, he had
to defend himself. Of course, that all dropped as soon
as he became president, That entire the investigation was dropped. Well,
he ended up suing the IRS for ten billion dollars

(00:44):
for the hassle that the IRS caused him in his
last stages just prior to his second election. And so
he sues for ten billion dollars, and he also wants
a if you remember the seventeen seventy six fund, which

(01:06):
were to pay those people that were victims of the
weaponization of the government before he became president, specifically January
sixth in well, no, he was president at the.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Time in which the overrunning of the.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
Capitol by these cockroaches they were all pardoned, as you know,
and he said this fund of almost two billion dollars,
they would be able to request money from the fund
because it is to protect people like them, or to
pay them back for the hassles that they underwent. It's
just completely crazy. So there was that, and here's what

(01:46):
he agreed to. This is the IRS and the Trump
administration or the or Donald Trump specifically, he will drop
his ten billion dollar complaint. And as part of the
deal is he gets that fund seventeen one point seven
six billion dollars. In addition to that, he his family,

(02:11):
all of his businesses are exempt from any audit by
the IRS up till today, anything that he was investigated for,
any impropriety, anything regarding taxes, he is exempt. He cannot
be charged, he cannot even be investigated. Well, as you
can imagine. Oh, so he kind of deal with himself
because who controls the IRS. Oh, it's a part of

(02:34):
the executive branch. Who controls the executive branch? Oh, it's
the president. See how that works. Well, of course, there
were lawsuits fouled like crazy, and a judge said, this
is US District Judge Kathleen Williams, this is improper. It
is self dealing. There is no legitimate legal process here

(02:56):
that was at work. He's effectively suing himself. And he
settled with himself to his and his family's benefit, and so.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
He said that's over. Of course they'll appeal it too.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
But my guess is this is so blatant, so one sided,
such a just an affront to our democracy that I
don't see any other ways going to go. Also, I
have a hard time seeing how the appeals court is
going to go his way. All right, let's take some
phone calls.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Hello, Bill, welcome to handle on the law.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
Hi.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
I own a medical practice with my wife.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
We have a signed lean.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
With an attorney. It's not for much, it's only like
three grand, and we've had the case for about four
and a half years and their office has ducked us.

Speaker 5 (03:42):
And ducked us.

Speaker 4 (03:43):
Your shoes is to respond. What are my options in
terms of going to the state to try.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
To do Yeah, well, first of all, you have two options,
or you take care, you take advantage of both.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
One.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
You have a small claim suit for three thousand dollars
based on the lean. That's for starters.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Number Two, you file a complain with the state bar
and you're going to allege exactly what you did four
and a half years. You've never they've never contacted you.
You have a lean, you don't know if the case
is settled or not. And you see what happens, and
you know, if the case was settled and they keep
the money, Bill, they've got some explaining to do for sure.
If the case was dismissed and there's nothing there, then

(04:21):
what you have is simply a lawyer not.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Contacting you, not calling you back.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
I mean, the guy's a jerk, so is that But
is that enough to create any kind of a real complaint,
real investigation.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Probably not.

Speaker 6 (04:34):
But if he's settled, yeah, go ahead, just quick follow
up please.

Speaker 4 (04:39):
So number one, if someone settled and then tries to
basically run away with the money, are there damages that
are possible to go.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
After the money?

Speaker 1 (04:48):
That's yeah, it's just the money that is owed to you, Bill,
that's all. And if they keep the money and are
ducking if they've kept your money, then stayed is going
to jump in there at the state bar is very
unhappy when a lawyer does that.

Speaker 4 (05:04):
Not damage damaging their career basically, well, it's more than
damaging your career.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
When the state bar comes down and nails you, it's
a real problem. So what I would do is file
the lawsuit anyway, small claims and tell the lawyer send
an email or if they're ducking you. Let's say you
have a receptionist hig the attorney Smith's this. You've just
reached Attorney Smith, and you go, you know, please tell

(05:32):
Attorney Smith that I am filing a complaint against him
with the state Bar. And what I would do is
you file it online and you send him a copy
and you go be prepared to have the state bar
talk to you. That's what I would do. Okay, that's
probably the best thing. I mean, that's now you know,

(05:53):
not that lawyers. Some lawyers don't care. I mean, I
would be frightened for sure. I mean, I have been
taking into the state Bar. I've been complaining to the
state Bar three times about the legal advice that I give.
And you know, the kind of legal advice. First of all,
I disclaim it. It is marginal legal advice. Some of

(06:14):
it is good, some of it.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
Not so good.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
You know, some of it I make up, and some
of it is pretty solid stuff.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
And you get to figure.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Out whether it is or not, and whether I have
credibility or not. But the complaint that was made by
three lawyers over my years of doing this, and I'm
talking about I've done this north of three decades.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Let me tell you a state bar contacts me.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
Because every complaint that's made to the state bar about
a lawyer is investigated, they open up a case and
the state bar investigator contacts that lawyer. And so when
I was contacted, I said, just listen to a tape
of my show, just listen to what I do. And
of course they immediately close the case because it's ridiculous

(07:05):
because you know the kind of law that I give advice,
and you know it's marginal and in many cases you
know I make it up, and so it's state bar
complaints are no fun for sure. Have you noticed, though
this particularly this last hour, how many questions or how
many advertisers are personal injury lawyers? I mean we get

(07:28):
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And which ones do you go to? I mean, do
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(07:50):
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Speaker 2 (08:03):
This is Handle on the Law.

Speaker 7 (08:06):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Handle on the Law Marginal Legal Advice. Mike Hello, Mike, Hi, Bill,
Hell is the go ahead?

Speaker 8 (08:22):
Hey, I have a situation. I have an ex wife.
I caught her cheating. She turned around and started telling
the kids that I was trying to overdose some of
drugs that never existed. Now this was twenty four months ago,
and what I did is I finally told her that
if you don't stop the drug light and the parental alienation,
I'm going.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
To file for divorce. So and filed for divorce, and we.

Speaker 8 (08:43):
Lived in the same house and she hits me with
a slanderous restraining order, which I beat back. Now she's
still telling the kids I'm trying to kill them, and
the kids have not eaten with me in twenty four months.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
How old are the kids?

Speaker 8 (08:57):
The kids now they're twelve and fifteen. It started when
they were like ten and like twelve.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
Wow, you know, quite the woman. Yeah, I think the
only thing you can do is get a court order
saying she can't do that.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
I mean, I don't know what other damage is. I mean,
you're not gonna sewer for money.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
You can't sewer for the fact that the kids won't
talk to you.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
You know what kind of damages are that you are?

Speaker 3 (09:21):
You?

Speaker 2 (09:21):
Four dear?

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Does the court say your kids have to talk to
you or your kids have to believe you?

Speaker 2 (09:26):
I mean, You've got a mess on your hands with
this woman.

Speaker 8 (09:29):
I've paid seventeen thousand dollars in monitor visits and now
I'm in conjoint therapy with them, but they still can't
eat with me, even for twenty four hours.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
Well, okay, hey, you're talking about that's what the court
has said, right, Yes, okay, you change that completely.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
You go into court and you argue everything the other way.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
You try to put a you shut down all of
that to where you have joint custody and you have
you can see your kids, and try to establish that
all of that is a lie. I mean, she just
can't come up with it. There has to be some
kind of proof. I mean, the bottom line, I mean,
you're you're you've got a mess on your hands. You
know what, why don't you consider just killing her?

Speaker 2 (10:08):
What do you think?

Speaker 1 (10:09):
Uh?

Speaker 8 (10:10):
You know, I had a dream that she disappeared on
the beach one day.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
Yeah, it's not bad.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
That's not bad because you can say, Okay, she drowned
on her own.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
That's one.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Another one is, uh, well, you know you don't want
the baseball bat at home with blood on it, so
that doesn't help you. No, you've got you've got a
problem on your hands, and that is you're gonna need
a divorce attorney, an aggressive family law attorney to change
us around. I mean, you you've got someone based on
what you say, I'm sure if she were to call
me should give me a whole different story. But based

(10:42):
on what you say, you're in that this is a
vicious fight and it's you. You have to get a
good aggressive family law attorney to argue your case because.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
It seems so egregious as to what she's doing.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
Uh that it's Uh, it's pretty tough, Crystal.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Hi, Chris, Yes, y, yes.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
So I have.

Speaker 5 (11:03):
I'm a social worker.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
I was working for La County Department and.

Speaker 9 (11:05):
Mental Health and I received a SIPEN grant from Department
of Health and Human Services. I then was attacked at
work by someone, and then I ended up leaving the job.
And now they're saying, because I didn't fulfill my two
year commitment, I owe the money back, which is now
it was a fifty thousand dollars grant. Now I owe

(11:26):
almost two hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Based on what when did you leave employment?

Speaker 9 (11:32):
I left in twenty twenty three, So I had looked
for an attorney to help me because I'm willing to
pay the fifty thousand, even though all that's left is
twenty five thousand, because I worked a full year after that.
But the attorney told me to go to our local
US House of Representatives to work with that department.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Yeah, okay, you've got government. This is complicated, complicated stuff.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
Now, they knew that you were not able to continue.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Because you were attacked.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
That's on the record, right, you were attacked and you
couldn't continue, Yes, all right, And you were.

Speaker 9 (12:08):
Informed they need to find a new job. They said,
you need to find a new job within our contract
and I said, no, one's hiring. They said, well you
need to move out of state. Then, okay, I'm not
licensed in another state.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yeah, I don't buy that something's going on, and I
don't and I don't understand.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
And do they don't prepay you for three years? Do they?

Speaker 3 (12:29):
They did for two years?

Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yes, they gave me.

Speaker 9 (12:31):
The full fifty thousand ahead.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Okay, and you worked for one of the two years.

Speaker 9 (12:35):
Right, Yeah, so they told me the remaining balance is
twenty five thousand, but with C's now it's two hundred thousand.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
Oh, they want two hundred thousand dollars on a twenty
five thousand dollars bill that you that you will, which
I think is legitimate. Yeah, yeah, you go. No, No,
you're just not going to pay it. They can say
whatever the hell they want. And do you do you
happen to have you happen to have to go on attorning?
Maybe I agree, you go to the house or you

(13:02):
go to your congress person and try to get that
straightened out, because that may just be a phone call
from your Well.

Speaker 9 (13:09):
I've been working with the congress people for two and
a half years and they can't get a hold of
anyone in that department.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
So now I'm not hoping where it's gone.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
To my credit.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Wow, well, you have to dispute it, clearly, have you
disputed it on your credit?

Speaker 9 (13:23):
Yeah, and they said I owe it. Yes, I've done.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
That, okay. And then they came back and said, you
actually owe the money.

Speaker 9 (13:30):
And they've never Department of Health and Human Services has
never given me like a notice you owe this money.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Give Yeah, here's the problem. The credit agency certainly got
hold of them.

Speaker 5 (13:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (13:44):
Even my credit report, the phone number for contact is
a disconnected number.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
Okay. How badly were you dinged on this? How much
credit did you lose? Or credit rating did you lose?

Speaker 9 (13:57):
You know, I don't honestly, I don't know. I own
my own house, so I am like, I don't I
pay at touch to my credit. But I think it's
gone down like one hundred points.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
So if you were let's say eight hundred and you
had great credit, you're down to seven hundred. You know,
at some point it disappears. You know what I would
do is call one of those credit repair people and
see if they can help you. They have access to
stuff that the rest of us don't, and it's not
that expensive.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
I got dinged.

Speaker 9 (14:27):
Do you know what kind of attorney?

Speaker 2 (14:29):
Well, you don't want an attorney at this point. You
don't want an attorney. You're not going to file a lawsuit.
And here's what happened to me. I'll tell you what
happened to me.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
At least a BMW and I'm on auto pay and
I was switching banks, and the auto pay was screwed up,
even though I went forward and did the and I
did the paperwork for the auto pay to pick up
the new bank, and the new bank screwed up and
didn't pay it.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
So there it was. I was thirty days late, thirty days.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Late, and I straightened it out, and of course I
asked them to remove the thirty days late, and they
said no, And I mean I went down one hundred
points over thirty days late.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
That was actually two TI auto pays that went down.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
And I hired one of those credit repair people who
actually kept on working for me.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
And the problem was is when it was disputed and.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
The credit people, the credit repair people went to the
BMW Financial Services and they said, look what happened, and
they said, we don't care. Bill was thirty days late
and it doesn't matter why. And so there I was
with a hundred point hit. And so I was told,
you know what, give it a year, give it a year,

(15:53):
and the longer that is from the day you owe
the money.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
These yer, it's going to.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
Be I don't know about this particular scenario. When you're
talking about the federal government, you're talking about leaving you.
You have pretty complicated, Siria, pretty complicated facts here. But
find out. I would certainly talk to a credit report agency.
And the only problem is finding the good ones because
there's some real there are flaky ones out there, and

(16:22):
I don't want to give you a referral. But the
research you're gonna have to do on this one is
to find a good one, look at reviews, talk to people.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
That's what you have to do. That's where i'd go.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Forget about the law right now, because that's going to
be way too complicated for you. I'll tell you whatever
what else you don't need. And that is your privacy
being completely used online. You think you have privacy, you
have no privacy. Everything about you is online. It can
be found out your home address, where you work, where

(16:53):
your bank, what you buy, where, court records, accident history,
DMV information, credit score, your social media. I mean, it's
all out there. And what happens is that data brokers
collect it because it's not hard to collect, and then
it gets sold to anyone who wants to buy it,
and your data is available to the bad guys. And

(17:15):
by the way, can you demand that they get rid
of it? Well, are you going to contact hundreds of
data brokers? Well, that's what Incogni does. They fight back.
They contract hundreds of data brokers who have your information
or are selling it, and demand that your information be deleted,
which by law it has to be.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
That's in Cogny.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
And before every show, I log on my Incognitia account
and hundreds of removal requests there they are, and hundreds
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Speaker 2 (17:58):
This is handle on the law.

Speaker 7 (18:01):
You're listening to Bill handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
This is handle on the law marginal legal advice where
I tell you you have absolutely no case.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Martha. Hi, Martha, Hi, Yes.

Speaker 5 (18:21):
Thank you for taking my call.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Sure.

Speaker 10 (18:23):
My question is I have tenants who live at my
home for years and years. I don't have a current
new lease for the reason that I like them to
vacate because I'm going to give you some extensive work
on the house, all right, me, fair enough, And after
all that's done, I want my son to move in

(18:44):
there with his family.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Fair enough. So what's your question, Martha.

Speaker 11 (18:51):
Oh, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
What's the best way to have a vacate? Good question?

Speaker 4 (18:57):
Sixty day?

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Okay? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (18:59):
Well, first of all, if it's California, you have to
give them a sixty day notice. If it's a rent
controlled area, you've got real interesting issues. What city is
the property on or in West Covina Okay, I don't
as well as Cavina part of Los Angeles, I don't

(19:19):
know if it's an independent city or not. If it
is part of LA it is, okay, great, that helps
a lot.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
So it's a sixty day notice. That's it. You give
them a sixty day notives to get out.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
And even if you were in a rent and control area,
I always use Los Angeles because that's where I grew
up and I happened to know LA Law a lot,
and it is seriously rent control. You wouldn't be able
to move the tenants out at all, except there are
certain exemptions. One of the exemption is moving a family

(19:56):
member into your property, so you're covered rent control or
no rent control. So it's a sixty day notice. If
they don't move at the end of sixty days, it's
a simple eviction.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
Martha, straight out, and you hire and go ahead, go ahead, No, no,
do I have what do.

Speaker 10 (20:16):
I have to provide the permit?

Speaker 11 (20:19):
A number another paper?

Speaker 2 (20:21):
No?

Speaker 1 (20:21):
No, no, you have to provide nothing other than a
notice to vacate.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
That's all.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Oh, they're out. I mean you're not going to do
the work until they're out anyway, So just a victim,
straight out. If they don't you give them sixty day notice.
If they don't leave, you file an eviction and you
throw them out. It's not very complicated. And then your
remodel and then the sun.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
Moves in Chazz, yellow Chazz.

Speaker 6 (20:48):
Yes, sir, So my wife files a restraining order for
throwing a shoe.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
Okay, I'm going to court at the end of the month.

Speaker 6 (20:58):
Seriously, I can't afford an attorney. What what should I say?

Speaker 2 (21:01):
Oh, you say exactly what happened?

Speaker 1 (21:03):
You just say, Hey, I threw a shoe and I
didn't hit her, and she attacked me or whatever, and
she provoked me. Whatever you want and that's all you do.
And so she has a restraining order. What do you care?
Do you plan on seeing her, do you plan on
being with her? Are you in love with her?

Speaker 3 (21:23):
No? No, I'm afraid she's using it as leverage.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
Of course she is. Yeah, of course she is.

Speaker 6 (21:29):
Chaz.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Of course she is using it as leverage.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
But you know what, the judges know that every judge
who has ever heard a custody case knows that either
side is going to leverage everything.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
He attacked me. This is what happened.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
So you threw a shoe, What does that have to
do with your daughter?

Speaker 2 (21:52):
What does it have to do with you seeing or
taking care of Because the only way.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
That it's going to change at all is for her
to prove you are a bad father. And throwing a
shoe at your ex wife does not make you a
bad dad. It shows that you and your ex don't
get along, and throwing a shoe is no big deal.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
Did you hit her with a shoe?

Speaker 3 (22:14):
Yeah, it was returning the shoe.

Speaker 6 (22:16):
Believe me, if I'm sorry, it was what it was
returning the shoe.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
Trust me.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
I don't understand what that means I don't understand what
we threw.

Speaker 6 (22:27):
She threw two shoes, and I threw one back, okay,
thirty feet away.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
Okay, so she threw So here's what you do.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
She threw two shoes at you, you threw one of
them back, and it was an altercation over a shoe.
Your kid wasn't there. You would never dream of doing
that in front of your child.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Was your child there, by the way, she was in
her bedroom.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
But okay, so therefore, okay, which is great, So your
child was not there. You would never do that in
front of your kid. Your ex first started this by
throwing the shoe. You two of them, and now you're
throwing a shoe back. By the way, anybody can get
a restraining order. Anybody does the restraining order say you
can't see your child?

Speaker 3 (23:10):
Yeah, she put that right in there.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
Okay, And she got a temporary restraining order. Yes, okay,
then you have to certainly fight that. I would. Yeah,
you have to ask for you have to ask to
lift the lift of restraining order pending the final restraining order,
depending the final hearing.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
And does she have a lawyer?

Speaker 3 (23:30):
No, I can't afford one.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
Does she have a lawyer has no.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
I know she's not represented.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Okay, So and the judge is going on and judges
grant crap. He attacked me. He's dangerous. I was in
fear of my life. Just on and on and on
and yeah she put that after this. She did, of
course she did. So would you get to do it?

Speaker 2 (23:53):
Go ahead?

Speaker 6 (23:53):
Yeah, it's about filing for divorce, sir saying, okay, so
what about filing for divorce? I have no idea where
to begin. Should should I go and start the filing process?

Speaker 1 (24:07):
It doesn't matter, Sure, it doesn't matter. Are you out
of the house, chas Are you out of the house? No, sir, Okay,
you're both living at home.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
No, she left. She left with my daughter over a
month ago.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
Okay, well hold on, then here's okay, that is a problem.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Why did you wait a month to even start this, to.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
Start the divorce filing?

Speaker 2 (24:31):
Yeah, any of it, to start even responding to our
temporary restraining order.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
No, I've responded in writing.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
Okay, And she got an emergency one. You didn't fight
that one that we didn't go back. They didn't go
back to lift the temporary restraining order.

Speaker 3 (24:46):
I thought it just ended four days later.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
Didn't say I did it say four days? Yes, okay,
so you are no longer under restraining order? Correct?

Speaker 6 (24:58):
She served me three days after the other one ended
with this, with this request for a permanent.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Yeah, that doesn't matter. That doesn't matter. Chas, that hasn't
been heard yet.

Speaker 6 (25:11):
Is the responding order over the temporary is still in place?

Speaker 2 (25:17):
But you said it was over after four days.

Speaker 3 (25:19):
It stays in place because she's asking.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
For the furtherance. She's asking for she's gotten the furtherance. Chas,
I'm about to hang up here. Had she gotten the furtherance?

Speaker 3 (25:29):
Yea, until it's in place until the hearing you got it.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
You know, if she's doing that, you can do it
the other way.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
You can ask for a lifting of that, because what
she said was bys to judge us. Hear that all
the time. Oh God, Now, sometimes it's not easy. If
you've been injured and I've been telling you about this
for years now, and answer questions about personal injury constantly

(25:56):
the last hour. I don't know how many questions I had.
And so I tell you to go to personal injury lawyer. Why,
because that's all you can do is get money. And
if you're talking to the other insurance company on the
other side, they'll call you and then start talking money. Now,
these people get paid for not paying you, and they're experts.
You're way out out of your wheelhouse. And this is

(26:17):
why personal injury lawyer is critical, especially if you've been
injured and you really banged up and it's not your fault.
Then you're home free and you get a good PI lawyer. Now,
where do you find them? Enough advertisements you hear on
this show and TV and radio and billboards. Yeah, and
how do you find the good ones? Some of them
are excellent, some of them not, which is why I

(26:39):
created Handle on the Law dot Com. These are lawyers
who are vetted. If there's a problem, I make the
phone call. You can call eight eight eight eight eight
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Speaker 7 (27:00):
You're listening to bill Handle on demand from kf I
AM six forty.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
This is Handle on the Law Marginal legal Advice. All right, Patrick,
welcome to Handle on the Law.

Speaker 11 (27:14):
Oh thank you. Well, here's my question. I bought a
group on break job from a company for lifetime and
I got the break job. Now I want to go
get my breakthree done and the company is now Audios.

(27:34):
So I was wondering if I have a kpns Group
On since they were the agents for that lifetime break job.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
You know, what's a good question. That is a good question.
Now it's you know, is it a contract?

Speaker 2 (27:53):
Yeah? Is a contract with group On? Or is it
a contract?

Speaker 1 (27:56):
And they're providing a lifetime contract with this company that
no longer exists, And by the way, what is it worth.
Let's say you sue them. Okay, based on the fact
you have a case, what are you going to sue
them for a lifetime warranty or a lifetime break job?

Speaker 3 (28:14):
Where?

Speaker 11 (28:15):
Yeah, it was located in band Eyes.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
I understand, but where where?

Speaker 1 (28:19):
It doesn't matter the location, it's which company do they
go to to give you this lifetime break job?

Speaker 2 (28:28):
Who do they go to?

Speaker 11 (28:29):
Yeah, they would have they would have gone to the
company that went out.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Of it, I understand, but they can't. But there's no
company anymore. So here's a question. Yeah, let's say you
do have a case and group On, let's say upholds it.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
How do they do that.

Speaker 11 (28:44):
By providing a different company.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
I presume which one, just any company.

Speaker 11 (28:49):
That's a good question.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Yeah, and that's the question. And that's the question.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
So I think that group on would not be liable
for that because if the if the group on, uh,
if the coupon from Groupon says you get a lifetime
break job from this company, not just the general lifetime
break job, but from this company, and this company no

(29:14):
longer exists, uh, there's what are they going to do?

Speaker 9 (29:17):
Well?

Speaker 11 (29:18):
So the other question, so let's let's say let's say
they haven't even responded to me. Okay, but I have
a case about that, Like, no, no, they.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
Don't have to respond.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
No, No, they'll respond to you if I have a
small claims suit, but they're going to throw you out.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
You know, the judge isn't going to hear it. I
wouldn't if I were.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
The judge only becomes because the company is out of
business and it was with that company, so they can't
fulfill that contract anymore. And not they didn't breach. The
company went out of business, So I don't I don't think.
I don't think. So that's my guest. When a company
goes out of business and they're involved in a contract.

(29:55):
They're done, and that company was inherent. It's the contract
that you had with group On. So I think you're
I think you're out of luck. So congratulations, you have
no case. All right, Helen, welcome to hand. Hello Helen.

Speaker 5 (30:16):
Well surprise, I got to speak to you. Okay, my
husband cancela in last year and this year I received
a cancelation of.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
Death and from whom wait a sec wha wha wait okay,
well okay, So I don't understand what the relationship is.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
Did the two of you borrow money? Did he borrow money.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
From this organization and all the money and then they
say there's a cancelation, he doesn't have to pay the money.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
I'm a little confused here.

Speaker 5 (30:45):
That's the division. Two is two up, two thousand and three,
two thousand and two. Throughout whatever I have, we have
never received any noticeful all okay?

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Then okay, so you were so no harm, no foul.
So you receive the cancelation that that doesn't exist.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
What do you care?

Speaker 5 (31:03):
I can't because they get they're standing it.

Speaker 12 (31:06):
Ten ah, okay, you got to call them and yeah
twenty yeah, bo canceling a debt from twenty years ago
that may be a problem.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
Yep, yep, yep, I understand. Yeah. How much is the
uh what's the ten ninety nine four? How much money?

Speaker 5 (31:25):
One hundred and fifteen dollars fifty three cents?

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Okay, so that is added to your income? How much?

Speaker 3 (31:34):
Hell?

Speaker 2 (31:34):
And how much money do you get a month?

Speaker 5 (31:37):
Subficion, I'm sorry, sufficion.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
Well, okay, I'm not asking this to be nosy, although
I'm incredibly nosy. What I'm asking you is, if you
add one thousand dollars to your income this year, is
that going to change your tax liability? Oh?

Speaker 3 (31:57):
Yes, okay, good, all right.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
That was all right, fair enough? So what do you do?
I call him?

Speaker 1 (32:04):
I call them up and go, what do you guys
doing twenty years after the fact? And they may have
just written it off at this point, but you know,
can that is the debt still owing? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (32:16):
The debt is still owing and it is.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
Uh yeah, and they shoot at ten ninety nine. Now
they can't sue you for it. That they can't do
is a statute? Is there something in the law that
says you can't do it ten ninety nine after twenty years?
I call the irs and see if that has to
be declared.

Speaker 5 (32:40):
But am I supposed to put it, you know, give
us a demand for payment?

Speaker 9 (32:45):
Because no, no, they can.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Just write it off. You can and you get a
ten ninety nine. Yeah, they can do that. Now, I
don't know under IRS.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
Rules if you are liable for it.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
And that's why I'm asking you to call the IRS,
because I don't know if it even affects you, except
you're looking at a ten ninety nine, which is based
on Sunday appen twenty years ago, and all of a
sudden this year they've they're submitting a ten ninety nine
to the government, So you want to find that out.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
I would call the IRS and explain the problem.

Speaker 5 (33:18):
Wait, we've been married thirty five years.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
Nobody cares not timeframe.

Speaker 5 (33:24):
Because I go you know, I go through all the mills.
I have never seen an invoice.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
Well I understand, No, I get it.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
No, I get it.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
You have none that you haven't.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
That doesn't mean they haven't sent it, because they usually
send it by a regular first class mail.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
Especially twenty years ago, you probably would have gotten

Speaker 1 (33:45):
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