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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty. The bill handles
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on the law marginal legal advice, where I tell you
you have absolutely no case. The rules always apply. You
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you go to the top of the list. If you
are unintelligible, you speak some language other than English, particularly
language that no one recognizes, not even your native tongue,
you go to the top of the list. If you
have a case that is particularly stupid, you go to
the top of the list. And any combination of those
you really go to the top of the list. Sandy, Hello, Sandy, welcome,
(00:47):
Yes hi.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
I was wondering if I can collect on a medical
bill on a patient that has passed away that his
estate is going through.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Yeah, of course, what did you do? What? What service
did you provide?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Dental services?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
And then I have the financial agreement that says it's
late fee, interest free court.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
All right, Okay, I got it. How much is all that, Sandy?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
About five thousand?
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Okay. What you want to do is probate has been opened.
Do you know if it's probate or was a trust,
probably a probate Okay, that's a public that is a
public document, and you can fight. You just have to
know what the case number is and the probate court
is handling it, and that's public document. And then you
just put in your claim to the probate court. Just
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throw it right in there.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Right.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
I did that.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
But the attorney denied it.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Okay, doesn't matter. I don't care what the attorney says.
It's what the judge accepts. The attorneys don't make it.
The attorneys don't decide what is denied or not denied.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
So I filed the creditors claim their attorney denied it,
and then I filed a lawsuit within the kindly all right.
And then she's and then she's trying to settle it
for a very low amount.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
And then I said, you know, you don't settle it, Sandy.
You don't settle it. You want your money, and you
let the court know you want your money, or you
tell the lawyer who wants to settle it, and you go, no,
I don't want to settle it. I want my money,
and you let the lawyer know you want your money,
or let the lawyer who's handling the probate. So the
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lawyer makes that decision. Sandy, it isn't. It's a probate judge.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
It's just threatening me that it's going to take me
that I.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Even said, I don't, Sandy, what is he threatening you with.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
That we're gonna come with a seal lawsuit against you.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Okay, Sandy, here's what you do. You call the state
bar on the lawyer. You report him for extorting you.
Was this in writing, by the way, Sandy, that he
wrote to you? Yes, okay, So you have the writing
and it says, either you give up your claim or
we're gonna sue you. Is that basically it? Yes, Okay,
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you gotta give.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Us see there we're gonna okay, there, We're gonna settle,
or I'm gonna file a loss against Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Here's what you get to do is you make a
complaint against him with a state bar. Get a complaint
for him, and they the state bar will look into it.
That is not fun to do. I mean, extortion you
can't do. I had a lawyer once who was stupid
enough to put into literally stupid enough to put into writing. Bill.
(04:01):
You'd better settle this case or I'm going to go
public because you're a public figure, and we're going to announce.
And then he made all these allegations as to what
a horrible human being I am, and it's going to
destroy my career. And literally my attorney wrote him back
and said, get in line. If you think you're the
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first one that has accused Bill of this stuff, He's
got twenty years of accusations of this stuff, So get
in line. And he ended up settling because it was
a straight extortion. That's what you do. Call the state bar,
make a complaint. Hi, Samantha, welcome to handle on the law.
Speaker 6 (04:43):
Hi, Bill question, So I really quick. I live with
my husband and my father in law who's widowed. Bit
my father in law is Jenny reverse mortgage for at
least ten years now. So husband, we want to buy
him out on the reverse mortgage. So property is maybe
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around six maybe six twenty, and reverse mortgage right now
is about four thousand. Is that the banks? Does the
banks care who buys it?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Wow? No, it's no, it's whatever. Whatever lender has loaned
the money on the reverse mortgage. You just call him
up and say, hey, I want to buy this thing out.
I want to pay you and get you off the
get you off the deed's cool.
Speaker 6 (05:31):
So it's doable.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Yeah, it's totally doable. Yeah, no financial institution.
Speaker 6 (05:36):
Yeah, when do they get paid off? They're not.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
That's all they care. That's all they care. And they
may say no, they may want to keep, but it's
up to them and it's up to you. Uh, that's
an easy one, Amy, Hi, Amy, I'm going because I'm
trying to figure out who I want to call. Who
I want the phone call from? All right, Amy, you're up, Hi,
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it's Annie.
Speaker 7 (06:02):
Annie.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Oh okay, we got it wrong. Hello Annie, that's okay,
that's okay.
Speaker 7 (06:08):
So I had a question. My mom and dad have
a will. My dad passed away and they have an
executor that was like a friend, and we, uh, there's
a safe and we set up a camera and caught
him taking things out of the safe without telling anyone.
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So what do we do about that? Can we getting
rid of him?
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Yeah, of course, first you call the police. That's for starters. Okay, okay,
that's that's number one. I Now come my questions. How
much money are we talking about? Or do you think
that the executor stole?
Speaker 7 (06:54):
So it wasn't money. It was.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Guns, okay. Uh, and the will specifically hold on and
the will specifically says these guns go to and people
are named, and the executor yes, okay.
Speaker 7 (07:14):
Yes, and he's the only one that has the the password.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Or the yeah okay, let me ask okay, Now it's
the question to prove. All right, he's gonna say the
guns weren't in the safe. I just opened it up
to look for the guns and they weren't there. How
do we put Okay, that is helpful. You just answer
that question. And I'm just curious just how much those
guns are worth.
Speaker 7 (07:44):
We don't know because you can't really tell.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Yeah, okay, it's straight out theft. It's straight out there.
Get the police, get the police involved, because to get
a lawyer is going to cost you buckets of money,
and you don't want to do that. Uh. It's just
it's that. And that's the strongest you know, any judgment
that comes down he owes you X if he is
convicted and the judge says, here's restitution. You have to
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turn the guns back over or the value of the guns,
which happens if there is any kind of a convention.
That's much stronger than a civil judgment. This is Handle
on the Law.
Speaker 8 (08:21):
You're listening to Bill Handle on Demand from KF I
am six.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Forty Welcome back Handle on the Law, Marginal Legal Advice
and Bizar, Hello, Nizzar welcome.
Speaker 9 (08:37):
Yes.
Speaker 10 (08:37):
So I am a special in expect for construction material.
I got a job to do in one of the
counties and the fifth day I started there, the engineers
took me to see the project. So we went through
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and I saw something as I am four years have experienced,
and I have a background degree and an engineering back
there from other country. So anyway, I say, sir, this
material cannot be used. It is it is not good
materials for this job that they want. He did not answer.
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I keep telling this, there's no answer. They're gonna mix it,
they're gonna do this. They're gonna still for two weeks.
There's not any improvement, the materials getting worse, and words
and words. So keep bugging said, yes, you see things,
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see something, say something.
Speaker 9 (09:46):
This is what I believe.
Speaker 10 (09:48):
I am honest to my job. So the contractor, you know,
it doesn't trip this. And he tried for many ways
to make me down. He couldn't. So last thing he
started doing sasty issue, Like I am driving through Okayer
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stopping work on something like that. So last Friday or
last Saturday, I was in the job and I passed
through one of the park park those nobody's there, and
(10:30):
I don't know. Somebody somebody took a picture and send
it to the superintender. The super send it to the engineer,
and the engineer right away it took like he did
not see that.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Okay, are what happened? We're going way too long on this.
So what ended up happening? They took a picture and
what happened to you?
Speaker 10 (10:54):
They kicked me off down the job okay?
Speaker 1 (10:56):
And you were working for you were not working for
the city or the state. You were working for that company. Correct.
Speaker 10 (11:02):
I am working for the company representing the city.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Okay. Uh.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
And it's an outsourced company, right, so it's a contract
the city has with that company. Is that correct? Okay?
So basically your company, your boss fired you.
Speaker 10 (11:21):
The city fired me.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Whoa, the city fired you even though you don't work
for the city. Yes, okay, wow? And I all right,
Well that one is throws in the work. I don't
know how a city can fire me. For example, Let's
say I work for a law firm, and uh, the uh.
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And the city hires a law firm for outside council,
which happens all the time. And they don't like the
job I'm doing. And the city calls me up and
says you're fired. And I say, I don't work for
you. You can't fire me. My boss can, that's for sure.
But you don't have jurisdiction to fire me. You don't
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have the right to fire me. You don't write me
my checks.
Speaker 10 (12:10):
You can't show up, they say, my checks. They say,
the city.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Pays to the city pays you directly.
Speaker 10 (12:19):
No, No, the city approved my time.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
I understand. I get that. So the city mandates that
you're there? Did they say that you did? You weren't
there working.
Speaker 10 (12:30):
They told me, I can not work again in this project.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Okay, by the way, are you still working on other projects?
Speaker 4 (12:37):
No?
Speaker 10 (12:37):
So it's just this job.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Okay, you lost your job. Okay. Here's where I'm confused
is the city has the right to fire you over
and above. For example, UH, let's say you work for
this company and the company is thrilled with what you do,
but the city is uncomfortable with you. They have a
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right to bypass your bosses and fire you directly. Is
that what you're saying? Yeah, whoa Okay, that's news to me. Well,
you know, I don't even know where to go. It's
not even employment maybe it's employment discrimination because I think
it's a jurisdictional issue. I just don't get it. Now.
Your company can fire you for whatever reason. Your company
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has no problem, Okay, they have the right to fire you.
What I don't understand is that the city has the
right to fire you unless that's the contract. If the
contract between the city and your company says that the
city has the right to fire anybody to remove you
from a job, then you've got no place to go.
(13:44):
But that has to be a specific provision of the
contract that says we have the right no matter what
you The company says we have the right to fire
an engineer on your job.
Speaker 10 (13:59):
Okay, I don't know about but that is I have Wait, you.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Just said, you just said, yes, that's exactly the circumstance.
What am I missing now, Nizzar.
Speaker 10 (14:10):
No, there is one ward the city inspector say you
don't have to say this war I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
You don't have to do what. You don't have to
say I don't bis are You're not making any sense.
The city inspector says, what.
Speaker 10 (14:27):
The city inspector after I approved like this issue. It's
just it's not correct. I went to the to the contractor,
the super I say, no.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
I understand, no, I understand, I understand. You refuse to
approve it, and the contractor wanted you to approve it,
and the city wanted you to approve it, And because
you wouldn't approve it, the city fired you, even though
you were not working for the city.
Speaker 10 (14:56):
No.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
So all right, I'm lost. Okay, that took a long
time for me to be lost. Drives me completely crazy.
Hi Anne, welcome to handle on the law. Yes, ma'am.
Speaker 6 (15:12):
Hi Bill.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
My parents had a trust and they have passed away.
There are five siblings. I'm the executor. There are two
siblings that have passed away. Are they are their heirs
entitled to part of the trust?
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Good? Good question. It depends on how it depends. It
depends on how the trust is written, and it's are
their successor beneficiaries? For example, And I bring up my
family trust. I am leaving money to a relative and
the trust says that if that relative dies, that's it.
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It's done, and the money goes back into the trust.
Now or my kids if one of them dies, and
the money goes to their kids, because that's the way
the trust is written. So you have to look at
the trust. If it is silent on that, where the
trust just goes to the parents, for example, and the
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kids are still around and the parents die. The law, yeah,
you know, I don't want to guess wrong, But the
controlling part is the way the trust is written. You
look at that first. And if it turns out it's
silent on that, I don't know the answer to that.
I'm going to guess here. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (16:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
And if there's siblings, yeah, if there's uh, well it
wouldn't be siblings. I don't think it goes to the siblings.
Speaker 9 (16:43):
I mean, I mean it just says us children. It
does not.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yeah, I's silent. No, it's silent on that, I understand.
I don't know. It may go back to the trust
and do they inherit. You know, I don't know the
law and that I don't know the rules. I do
know that whatever the language of the trust controls. So
you have to look at the language of the trust,
and you did, and it's totally silent on that. You know,
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Speaker 8 (18:40):
You're listening to Bill handle on demand from KFI AM
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Speaker 1 (18:46):
This is handle on the law marginal legal advice where
I tell you you have absolutely no case. Jackie, Hello, Jackie, welcome. Hi.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
My husband passed away during a colonoscopy and we've had
a lawyer on it. He's been working on it and
they don't want to give up paperwork or tell us
what an siezure they use. They said he had a
heart attack.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Okay, that's see what the lawyer I'm sure has subpoenaed
those documents instantly when they said no, correct, yes, okay, we.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Had a hard time get no.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Okay, that happens. That happens. Uh did you get the
documents or not?
Speaker 9 (19:31):
Yes, he did get them, okay.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
But he said you have to he signed for the procedure,
which you signed for any proceed That's.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Okay, that's a defense. Okay, that's one of the defenses.
That has nothing to do with getting the documents. Jackie.
You got the documents, and they're they made it as
difficult as possible. Of course they're going to that's their
defendants in this case, and they're going to argue you
signed uh the uh you signed the document saying that
there is a consent document. Is what your husband assigned? Correct?
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And he assumes the risk. And here is the issue, Jackie,
And one is is there a percentage of people? Are
there a percentage of people who die as a result
of the colonoscopy? And by the way, not because anything
happened in the colonosopy. They just happen to have a
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heart attack, because colonoscopies don't connect the heart attacks, particularly
now perforation of the intestines connect to colonoscopies that happens,
but not heart attacks. So you have a doctor that's
willing to say that it was the colonoscopy that killed
your husband, correct, right, okay? And was it a colonoscopy
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that was done correctly or they're saying it was done incorrectly.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
They say correctly.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Okay, No, no, no, I don't care what they say. Of
course they're going to say correctly. What does your lawyer say,
is the argument that it was done incorrectly? Is that
part of your lawsuit?
Speaker 9 (21:04):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Okay. And you have a doctor that has connected those
two saying it was the colonoscopy that killed my husband, right, Okay,
has he explained why?
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Well, what we believe is he was on a respirator
and we believe he didn't have enough oxygen because he
wasn't rained.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Okay, So it wasn't the colonoscopy. It was lack of oxygen.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
That's what we're assuming.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
No, no, no, you don't assume that's the allegation. Okay. And
you have the notes, and the notes are going to
not help you because you know they're not going to
write them correctly, or if they do, you have them.
You're done. Now. The consent form, if there is malpractice,
means nothing, Jackie. Nothing. That consent form is going to
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be thrown out. They're not going to be able to argue.
But you agreed to go Listen, I didn't agree to
medical malpractice that I never agreed to so don't worry
about the consent for him if if medical malpractice is
in fact put into place. But it's uh, my my question,
and I'm not a med mal attorney, Jackie, I have
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no idea, but if I had to look at it,
I think there would be a very tough connection between
a colonoscopy and a heart attack. Why was he on
a ventilator when he had the kolonoscopy?
Speaker 3 (22:25):
He was it after he had.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
The heart attack, right, That has nothing to do with it. No, No,
it's the it's the colonoscopy connected to the heart attack,
not the fact he was on a ventilator afterwards. That
doesn't matter because it's that's way after the malpractice took place.
So I still don't understand how what they did and
if there are no perforations, and if it was it
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looked like a normal colonoscopy that afterwards your husband died
and he would never have died but the colonoscopy, He
never would have had a heart attack if there was
no colonoscopy. And that's the allegation, correct, right, That's an
interesting one. That really is because people have heart attacks,
They have heart attacks walking down the street, they have
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heart attacks when they get colonoscopies. They have heart attacks
when they sit down at your restaurant, and uh, you're
going to have an interesting I'd love to see the
connection between a colonoscopy that was done correctly and a
heart attack right after that? Did he have a did
he have a heart attack on the table.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
That's what they're saying, Well do well.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Okay, I don't care what they're saying. And they're going
to make all kinds of things. Your allegation where in
terms of where was he that you know when he
had his heart attack?
Speaker 3 (23:43):
What we know is that he was on the table.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Okay, all right, all right? So uh right, So your
question is what, Jackie, should.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
We get a wrong gust fut on this?
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Of course, don't you have a lawyer?
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Okay, we have a lawyer. And he was having trouble
getting information, but.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
You said you got the information he did. Okay, so
you're done. You're done with that. You can't sue them
for not being cooperative when you got the information, Jackie.
Speaker 9 (24:13):
Okay, so that's not.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Part of your lawsuit. They're just being asses about it,
which every defendant is. They never cooperate, especially hospitals. So
what is your what is your lawyer saying Jackie about this.
What's the allegation? What caused the heart attack?
Speaker 3 (24:34):
He hasn't said that.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
He's just said that, Oh, then you got to get
another lawyer. Oh, you've got to get another lawyer. You
definitely did another lawyer. Your lawyer is doing you no
favors whatsoever. By the way, I truly believe that, Well,
maybe I don't know enough about the case, but arguing
that he had a heart attack after colonoscopy is the
same as you walking to Carl's Junior and keeling over
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and having a heart attack, and then arguing if I
wasn't at Carl's, I would not have had a heart
attack and died. I think that's where she's going with
this one. Benny, Hello, Benny, welcome. H Yes.
Speaker 11 (25:11):
Question we have as a we have a bar restaurant
venue in a city. There's a stipulated judgment was entered earlier, earlier,
earlier regarding a condition to use permit not allowing live entertainment.
The question is can a consticulated judgment be rescinded by
the court.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, even though it's a judgment and it
is unfair or the law has changed, or you think
that it was discrimination that you know, the bar down
the street is allowing dances in the same circumstances. Hell, yeah,
you go in and you just file a case. You
just file a court case where you're suing the city
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or you're suing or there is a process. No, it's
a court case. So yeah, you get a lawyer and
you go and try to have it removed. You could
you argue that it was usipulated because of duress, and
they made all kinds of arguments. I mean, what is
the difference. I mean, are you in terms of dancing,
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uh and not dancing? What kind of Benny, let me
put it this way, what kind of entertainment are and
are there polls involved on the stage?
Speaker 11 (26:23):
No? No, none ob seen dancing.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Just Oh that's a shame, that really is, because the
other story would have been much better. Why don't I
why do they not let you have live entertainment there?
Speaker 11 (26:38):
It's predicated upon the clientele, the ethnicity of the Clientell.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Oh, if that's oh whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa.
If that's the case, Benny, Now we're getting really into discrimination.
I mean racial discrimination. I mean come on, they said,
because of the racial makeup of the clientele, we want
you not to have entertainment.
Speaker 11 (27:01):
Well, it's couch within the if it couched within the
version of the excessive calls for police, he says, the
calls for police.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Okay, so what okay, Well that's one thing. So what's
the ethnicity of your clientele?
Speaker 11 (27:14):
We went from it went from and it went from
what it was previously to an African American clientele. It
scares a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Okay, it has become African American and they're arguing excessive
U nine to one one calls. Yeah, I would argue
that that's a little bit of discrimination. Now if they
come up and they say, here it is, but they
have to connect the dots. Why would it be the
entertainment causes the excessive phone calls? Where how do they
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connect that one?
Speaker 11 (27:43):
Benny, good question.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Yeah, and that's why, Uh, that's that's why you get
a lawyer, Like right now, what's the difference in income
between entertainment non entertainment in your bar?
Speaker 11 (27:55):
You're talking between success and failure one hundreds of thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Okay, Benny, Benny, Benny, you absolutely get hold of a
lawyer in this. You have to you have no choice,
and you've got to get going on this immediately. I mean,
there's no issue, and I don't know why you would stipulate.
Oh sure, I'm willing to destory my business. This is
Handle on the Law.
Speaker 8 (28:19):
You're listening to Bill Handle on Demand from KF I
am six forty.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
This is Handle on the Law, Marginal Legal Advice. Dennis. Hello, Dennis, welcome.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
How are you doing?
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Mother?
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I'm telling you about it. I'm being in a rest home,
a nursing home. I'm sorry, my voice just fell out.
The problem is is that they're not doing what they're.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
Supposed to do.
Speaker 9 (28:49):
And wow, I'm sorry, I could jog real clear, not ago.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. I can
hear you, I can understand you. All right. So they're
not doing what they're supposed to do. What are they
supposed to do, Dennis, that they're not doing.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Oh, they're supposed to give me physical exercise. Okay, we're
supposed to give me breathing exercise.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Fair enough. They're not doing any of that, right right, Okay.
Now the fact that they should be doing that is
that are those part of the terms of the nursing home.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
I guess. So they call them myself a rehab and
I'm here to be rehabbed.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Okay, you're and who sent you there to be rehabbed?
Speaker 4 (29:31):
The hospital?
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Okay? And all right? All right, So what's your question, Dennis?
Speaker 4 (29:41):
Well, actually it's more of a statement than a question,
because I already know there's a variety of places you're
supposed to be able to contact. The problem is is
that none of them function. I can keep you on
the phone for two hours.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Yeah, I know, you know. It's not a question in functioning.
It's literally a question of not having enough staff, changing
their business model. I mean, it goes crazy, on and on.
How long are you supposed to be in rehab? Dennis?
When do you get out?
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Well, it's sort of they're going to evict me because
I've refusing to turn over my social security.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
No, all right, then they evict you. All right?
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Now, what, Well, since I've been When I came here,
I was walking, talking and had visions. Now I'm in
a wheelchair with a hose in my nose and I'm talking.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Okay, So are you alleging that are you alleging that
it's the rehab center that's causing this. Yes, you walked in,
you were in pretty good shape, and now you're in
a wheelchair and you have your breathing on some kind
of breathing device. Why did you go into rehab anyway?
If you were in pretty good shape?
Speaker 4 (30:51):
Sort of a long story. But they said it was
because of illegal issues.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
No, No, you don't go into rehab because of legal issues.
You go in rehab because you need rehab. So you
were in So you were in the hospital for. What
were you in the hospital for that you were sent
to rehab.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
I was in the hospital because they had shortness of.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Breath, okay, and then they sent you to rehab.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
They told me they couldn't release me because I didn't
have an address they had to send me.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Who couldn't release you the hospital? Yeah, okay, and so
they sent you to rehab. So okay, why didn't you
give me your SO security number? Dennis? Why didn't you
give it to them again? Then, if they had everything
and they ask you for your social and you already
know they have it, why wouldn't you repeat it?
Speaker 4 (31:45):
Okay, I'm not making myself clear. They had obvious information.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
They had all the information and then you said, but
you wouldn't give them your SO security number. It's one
of the two. Either they have all the information or
you wouldn't give them the SO security number and they
wanted it. Which one of the two. Neither.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
They're asking me to sign over the rights to my
social Security. They've got all the numbers. They want me
to sign over the rights. I'm already on blue shield.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
No, no, you know, not your social security Brian. That
makes no sense. That makes no sense social Security. Now,
if you're on medical, I think they have the right
to do. They can take a lot of assets. But
there's no rehab center that I know of. So get
yourself out of there, Brian, Just get out. Do you
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have any families and friends that could pick you up?
Speaker 4 (32:35):
If I had any, I wouldn't be here in the
first place.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Okay, So you have no one? I would call the county.
Call the county, and you ask for the health department,
or you asked for I don't even know who to
ask for.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
Bill, That's what I'm telling you. I've asked and talked
with all of.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Them now and I don't know what to tell you.
So what do you you know? Dennis? If you've called everybody,
if you've done everything, I don't know what I can
give to you, Dennis, because every time I come up
with a yestion and you say I've done that and
that's possible. I understand that. And boy, you talk about
bad luck.
Speaker 11 (33:12):
You.
Speaker 9 (33:14):
Bill.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
That's the point I'm going to make. It's not directed
to me as bad luck. It's everybody in these places.
It is predominantly that they put these places up. And
most of the people in this place or hospice, okay.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
And I okay, okay, now what okay, assuming that they
are and it's horrible and and okay, and most of
the I would like the name of some of these places,
except without getting sued, you can't say most of these
places and they put them up, and most are hospices.
By the way, rehab centers are generally not hospices. It's
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a whole. It's two different things. So yeah, I don't
know where you're going with that. Patrick, Hi, Patrick, welcome.
Speaker 9 (33:55):
Yes, sir, quick question. We're in Florida. My daughter got
a judgment from small Claims Court for I believe nine
thousand dollars and it's against a smaller business. They have
about three or four locations, and I just want to
know where what we can do now that we have
she's waiting for the final pay per work.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Yeah, okay, where's the business there? And when you say
they have three or four locations, where are those locations? Patrick?
Speaker 9 (34:23):
Justin Florida.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Justin Florida. Okay. And I'm assuming they have assets, they
have money. There's enough money there to pay your daughter off,
right right, Okay, Okay, so here, okay, let me give
you some bottom line stuff. Number One, with a judgment
against them, they may just turn around and pay you
or pay her. If we're talking about a company, a
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large company that is actually legitimate, and they're looking at
a judgment, okay, we'll write a check. We thought we
were right, we fought it, court said no, here you go.
You know, for example, if someone suits me and I disagree, right,
and the court turns around and says, Bill, you're wrong,
we're going to go for the plaintiff. One of the
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things in California is you can ask for another trial,
a trial denovo, and you do it all over again.
But let's say i'm I believe I've done nothing wrong,
and I do the next trial, I go ahead and
do my trial denovo quote new trial, and I lose
that well, and judgment is going to go against me,
I'm going to pay it. The last thing I want
is an unpaid judgment on my record because keep in mind,
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unpaid judgments are part of credit history. So if you
have someone that is going to do business with this
company and they're looking at unpaid judgments the company that
doesn't pay, that tells you something about doing business with
these guys. You know you better get your money up front.
How big is the company?
Speaker 9 (35:48):
Okay? How big is a company? It's a cleaning business.
And they have, like I said, three or four locations.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Well, and I don't Yeah, I'd rather have it be
a really large company. And by the way, cleaning, I'm
surprised that you know you're talking about cleaning or not
dry cleaners, but a cleaning company.
Speaker 9 (36:07):
No, no, no, like cleaning houses.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Okay. And how do you have to know how much
volume they do? If you had to guess, is it
millions of dollars? Is it a small company?
Speaker 9 (36:16):
Oh, it's not that much, my daughter said. I think
she said they were doing about about two hundred thousand,
three hundred thousand from one location.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Okay, so that's pretty good size. Uh yeah. The first
thing you do is you get the judgment in your hands,
you send it to them and say you've got thirty
days to pay it, otherwise I'm going to go after you.
Speaker 9 (36:36):
And then you go after his bank account.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Oh, you go after everything. Now is it against him
individually or is it against the business?
Speaker 9 (36:43):
No, it's against his business, against his business.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Okay, against the business. So you get to do some Unfortunately,
you got to do some research and find out where
they bank. You can find out anything about anybody today
with the Internet and doing some searching. Right, So let's
say she's willing to spend time and doing searching and
you get a bank and a bank account number. The
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sheriff's just grab that money. Boom done, and they can't
do anything about it. The other possibility is that you
hire a collection agency and they're the ones that do
it for you, and they'll take a third of the money.
So she ends up with a nine thousand dollars judgment,
she ends up with six thousand dollars. She has that
choice too excellent, and it's going to have to be
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in Florida. Patrick, there's no way around that, Okay, Let
me talk to you about privacy that you need some
help with also, because you have no privacy, I mean zero,
especially online. You think your life is private. Everything about
you is online. Your home address, where you work, where
you bank, what you buy, where you buy at, court records,
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accident history, your DMV information, your credit score. I mean,
I could go on forever. It's all out there. It's
easy to find. And it gets even worse than that,
because not only is it out there and easy to find,
it is collected by hundreds of data brokers and then
they sell it to anybody who wants it, even the
bad guys, And there goes your privacy, and there it
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