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Speaker 1 (00:00):
KFI AM six forty. You're listening to Dean Sharp, the
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my friend, and welcome home. I am Dean Sharp, aka
the house Whisperer, custom home Builder, custom home Designer, and
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you doing. I'm good, I'm good. How are things with you?
Not bad?
Speaker 2 (02:17):
You know, I have a lot more time on my
hands with my kids out in Spain, so I'm actually
I'm like almost finished with my dissertation proposal.
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This is great, Oh my gosh, that's fantastic. And you're
not exhausted, you're not burning the midnight oil. I am
and I am okay. You seem to be in.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
A great mood. I'm always chipper. I'm always in a
good mood unless I'm really upset about something.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Then I'm not. Okay. Well, let's talk about people who
are in a bad mood in the morning. Heather Brooker,
how dare you? Oh? Oh see, look at that. What
kind of an attitude is that?
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Dare you?
Speaker 4 (02:54):
I'm going home and going back to bed.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
What's up?
Speaker 5 (02:59):
You know?
Speaker 4 (03:00):
I don't just sit here talking about the news. The
wild times that are happening, you know, like we do.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
They're pretty wild, pretty wild times. Anything new going on?
And how's the show going?
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It's so great.
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I wouldn't know because I haven't been a guest on
it yet.
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Oh you know what, though, I would love to. I
would love to have you. I just feel bad because
you do three hours and then to be like, hey,
now come on and do more. I just I never
want to like ask people for more than and push
people to do something.
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They may know I get it, I get it, and hey,
you know what, but I blatantly volunteered. Well in that case,
right up front, I'm just like, you know, hey.
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In that case, yes, please, I'm on my come on
my little show. It's just a little I call it
the Power Hour because it happened.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Tell everybody when it's going on.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
oKFI Live is Sundays at noon and we do a
little bit of news and entertainment and you know, whatever
sort of I'm interested in that day, and we do
headlines and yeah, it's a fun it's a fun show.
I'm really enjoying it.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Well, I am super glad. And like I said, you know,
don't you don't have to force me onto the show
just because you're like you're probably sitting back with your
producers think, jeez, I don't know not Dean really wants
to come on my show.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
And I love that. I've told you before, I love
your show, and I think there's a reason why it's
one of the top shows on our station, and people
enjoy it and they it's it's the perfect way to
start the weekend, like this comforting, welcome home feeling.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
So absolutely I love that. Okay, well, just there it is, there,
it is. Yeah, all right, get ready. Oh I'm so
happy things are going well.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
You I appreciate it, all.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Right, y'all. So here's the thing. Uh, while we're waiting
for your calls to come in, and literally we're waiting
for the host of the show to show up because
I'm just here to answer questions and you are hosting
the show today. So again eight three three two ask
Dean A three three to ask Dean. While we're waiting
for you to show up and to take your seat
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across the table from me, I've got some There're some
interesting stuff home stuff in the news this last week.
This was I thought interesting. Pulled up two stories. Okay,
they're both very similar. One is a couple in this
small northeast Oregon town started pulling off this awful siding
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off of their house. Okay, they they've hated this siding
for as long as they've lived there. Haven't lived there
very long, but they've hated the siding for as long
as they've lived there. They said, it's peeling, it's warping,
and it was ugly. They loved the house and the location,
but they just this siding, and it had them in
a quandary because they felt that their house was it
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felt well built, because they said, well, it's very warm,
it's very cozy, it feels very solid. Well, they eventually,
one day not too long ago here, decided, you know what,
grab the crowbar. Why don't we just take a look
underneath some of the this siding here and see what's
going on. And so they pulled off a couple of pieces,
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and what they found to shot and surprised them. They
pulled off some pieces and they're like, no, that can't
be and then they pulled off some more. Pretty soon,
within a couple of hours, they had a whole big
zone of siding pulled off the side of the house.
Now that's a risky move for homeowners that aren't di
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I wires necessarily or qualified to put the siding back,
but they did it. And the reason why is that
they discovered that they were living it. Well, they knew
their home was old, they didn't know it was one
hundred and fifteen years old, and they didn't know underneath
all of that nineteen eighty siding was a log cabin.
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These guys were living in a log cabin. The deed
dates back to nineteen eleven. They are living in this
small Northeast Oregon town that at the time had a
huge lumber industry and with a log mill that dates
back over a century. And so now in the she's
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been documenting the reveal on Reddit under the handle no
Independence twenty eight forty four if you're interested in going
and looking at it. But how cool is that? Right
that you were messing with something on your house, and
you finally got so frustrated that you started tearing it off,
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and you found that your house was a house hiding
inside a house, and the thing that was hiding inside
better than what was on the outside. So there you go. Now,
that's not an encouragement to you if you don't like
your stuck or your siding, to start tearing into it
because you're going to find a log cabin inside. I'm
just saying, I think it's really cool. And also, by
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the way, yeah, eighties siding, It doesn't strike me so
many mistakes were made in the nineteen eighties. I get
so many reports, so many stories, so many clients talking
to me about, oh, yeah, that part of the house woo,
And I'm like, yeah, I can tell it was done
in the eighties. I don't know. I really loved the eighties,
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but it was not a great time.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
It was a wild time.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
It was not a great time in general for for
home design. It really we were very confused.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Most times people find a painting or some kind of
treasure in an attic.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
The treasure was the house, the whole house. That's a
coole house. Yeah, And so anyway, and it's it's pretty cool.
It's a pretty cool log cabin too. All right, Hey,
I got a couple of cars on the board and
it's time for a break, So why don't we do that,
And when we come back, we will go to the phones.
You are home with Dean Sharp the housewif there is
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nothing stupid about loving Star Wars. Just saying I'm not
a Star Wars geek or nerd. I am a nerd
in general, but I'm just saying there's nothing wrong about
loving Star Wars. May the fourth is wonderful. There you go,
Bill Handle argument complete, Okay, Dean Sharp, the house whisper
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here for you. It's an all calls Saturday morning. You
get to set the agenda. The number to reach me
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the numeral to ask Dean. We've got some calls on
the line right now, but there's room for you because
I take them at random, except when we have a
priority caller. What is a priority caller? A priority caller
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is somebody who's tried calling in before and did not
have time to get on the air. And we always say,
if you didn't get on the air, if we left
you hanging on the line, if you call back at
another show another time, you just let our call screener
know and we will put you at the front of
the line. And as we do, I'm going to honor that.
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I'll I want to talk to Cindy. Hey, Cindy, welcome home.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
Hi, Hi, good morning.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Good morning. How can I help you?
Speaker 5 (10:11):
I put in a sink. I remodeled my kitchen a
few years ago, and I wanted to say anyway, I
put in what's a composite sink. It's like by Blanco,
and I just don't like it. Looking back, I wanted
more of a portion sink. So I looked into replacing it.
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What I could do to passably and the only thing
they said, I can't because it's the under mountain all that.
So I read where you could paint it. You could
actually paint it porcelain, have it sprayed or whatever. So
what is does that? What's involved in that? And should
I have a professional do or somebody that's done it for?
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Is it?
Speaker 5 (10:54):
What do you think?
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Okay, all right, so first of all, let me ask
you about this composite sink under mount and you say
I can't replace it? Because it's under mount. Uh why
can't replace it? Why can't we replace it because it's
under mount?
Speaker 5 (11:11):
Well, they they said, it's the way I thought, just
get another one, the same thing, but in porcelain and
to put it under And they said, well, I had
a couple of contractors look at it, and it's mounted
to the court's top, and you'd have to I want
to actually a farmer's kind of type sink than I
thought of it, but I did that was too late,
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and they just said it wasn't possible. You'd have to
remove the courts and do a lot of work to
just redo the whole thing as far as the courts go.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
So yeah, okay, So when they say so, I just
want to I just want to clear. I just want
to make sure, okay, because I got to tell you, Cindy,
I hear this a lot. Sometimes with the information we
get from contractors is right on the money, and other times,
my my most dreaded praise that I hate when contractors say,
which is it can't be done. It can't be done.
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So I want I'm gonna ask you a couple of
questions about this undermount sink, Okay, And then when I
get to telling you about coding it. You'll know why
I'm asking the question. So we've got a composite sinc
a composite resins sink, and it has been mounted to
the quartz directly, so it's not mounted to plywood subtop
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underneath the quartz. It's not clamped in. Is it been
glued to the quartz?
Speaker 5 (12:35):
Probably not glued, but let me look at it. It's
probably it's some kind of a bolt or whatever. But
let me see.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
I know it hasn't been bolted to the quartz. It
has either been clamp bolted to the to the wood,
the plywood subtop that's underneath the quartz, or it's been
glued directly to the underneath side of the courts.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
It's good. It looks like see I had cabinets, you know,
put into.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Did we lose her? Are you with me? Cindy? She
crawled under the sink and accidentally the phone. All right,
here's the thing. Okay, as soon as she gets back,
we'll get her back on here. H here's the thing, everybody,
it is. Oh, okay, Cindy, Cindy you back, yes, yes, okay,
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there you go. We lost you for a second there.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
Sorry, I'm sorry, all right. It's the cabinets were built
and in and then it was put inserted. It looks
like and then the mountain or the courts over it.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Mm hmmmmmmm. Okay, all right, okay, So, uh here's the thing.
Because I lost you for a second there, we're right
up against a break. I want to honor the break.
I'm gonna pop you on hold. When we come back,
I'm gonna explain to you how this can actually go
down and why I'd rather have you replace that sink
than paint it. Okay, So you hang tight, Everybody, hang tight.
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It's not a good idea to paint a resin sink.
It can be done. Yes, of course it can be done.
Are you gonna be happy with it long term? No,
you're not. Not if it's your kitchen sink. Not if
it's an often used sink. So we'll get there. You
hang tight and we'll talk about it on the other side.
Your Home with Dean Sharp The House Whisper.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Dean Sharp The House Whisper here to help you transform
your ordinary house into an extraordinary home. Sometimes that comes
by way of insightful designed advice. Sometimes it comes by
way of experienced builder advice. Cindy, our caller, who is
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still on the line with me, has a undermount composite
SYNC that she put in a while back. He's not
happy with and she wanted to change it out, and
she's had a couple of contractors take a look at it,
and they both told her it can't happen, and so
she's stuck with in her original question, which I'm going
to answer, is you know, I want to paint over
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it or put some kind of coding on it to
renew it. And here's the thing. First of all, Cindy,
I want to ask you one more question about your
undermount sync. You implied that it doesn't look like it's
been glued to the underneath of the quartz top, but
that it's somehow bolted and clamped. That's actually the typical
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way of attaching it. If that's the case, that's great,
that's fantastic. But let's assume morst case scenario that somebody
epoxy glued it to the underneath of the quartz. A
goat to ask you one critical detail about your your
composite sink, and that is you got your quartz top
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as it rolls over into the sink. Is the Are
the walls of the sink flush with the hole in
the quartz top?
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Like?
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Is it continuous? Or are they overhanging the sink just
a little bit.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
Let's say that again. The walls of the.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Walls of the sink. Okay, do they come up and
just flush out like you could just put your hand
and just roll right out onto the countertop without hitting anything.
Or does the countertop overhang the edge of the sink
just a little bit.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
I think it it overhangs a little bit.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Yes, Yes, that's what I wanted to hear. Yes, okay,
So here is the thing, and it peeves me, like
I was saying before the break, that people do this
kind of stuff. It I have no issues with a
contractor who doesn't want to do a job, and I
have no issues with a contractor who doesn't know how
to do a job. I have issues with contractors who,
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when they don't know how to do a job or
don't want to do a job, turn to a homeowner
and say these words, it can't be done. And that's
just it has led to so many misfires in homes
by homeowners being misinformed. I've been doing this a long time,
and I can count on one hand the number of
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instances when actually, after fully researching the problem, we discover
that it actually can't be done one hand, and I'm
not exaggerating now, Sometimes it's too costly to do it,
Sometimes it's going to take too much time to do it.
Sometimes the homeowner decides not to do it for a
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number of reasons. But incredibly rarely is it. It can't
be done. And I just want builders and contractors out
there to stop saying those words. Okay, so here's the thing.
A resin sink is by definition a very soft material. Okay,
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it's sturdy, but it's soft. So even if this sink
can't be removed from underneath with ease, okay, even if
it had been epoxy glued to the underside of the
quartz countertop, which sometimes they are. It's not my recommendation,
but sometimes they are. Sometimes builders will just glue them
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underneath the courts. So now essentially the sink and the
courts are one, and trying to pull that thing out
could crack or damage the quartz. Okay, doesn't sound like
yours is that situation. But even if it was, Even
if it was, because the sink, the countertop overlaps the sink,
we don't have to worry about messing with that edge
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at all. We can leave that edge. But we could
take a grinder today, okay, a grinder wheel, and very
carefully from inside the sink up above, cut away the sink.
Just cut through it with a grinder, because it'll happen.
Now it's a little bit messy, okay, but we can
cut through that sink very very close to the upper
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to the surface of the lower surface of the quartz countertop,
leaving just a little rim nub stuck up there. That's
if it was glued on, okay, which doesn't sound like
yours is. But even if it was, and we've done
this before, we can cut away a composite sink from
up above and then cut it into pieces and remove it.
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It's not an issue. We can get it out of there,
and then all it takes is that same grinder or
a grinder from underneath. And somebody wanted to put in
the sweat equity to simply grind away the little rim
that we've left on the bottom side of that quartz
and voila, the sink is gone and you're ready for
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a new undermount sink. Okay, Now, it takes some creativity
and it takes some skill, and it's gonna take some
sweat equity to have that done. And maybe at the
end of the day when you tell somebody, hey, would
you do this, this, and this, the price for doing
that is more than you want to spend. And I
totally get that. But the reason I'm suggesting that is
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that painting a resin sink is totally doable, and you
won't be happy with it because well, number one is doable.
I'll just tell you right now. You clean and decrease
that thing. You lightly sand it because it's soft. You
can because you've got to sand the entire surface with
maybe two hundred and twenty grit wet dry sandpaper. And
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you got to make it really rough because a resin
sink is non porous, and so you've got to rough
up the surface so it'll bond to a high quality
bonding primer. And then on top of that thin even
coats of epoxy based tub and tile paint, and that
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is how you repaint a resin sink. There's just one problem,
that's how you do it. And if it wasn't a
sink that gets used very often, like a bathroom sink
or a powder room sink, I'd say, you know, hey, sure,
why not? Could go for it, right, But the kitchen
sink a painted resin sink because the resin underneath flexes
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slightly and the epoxy on top won't. The resin sink
is going to chip, it'll crack, especially down near the drain.
You won't be able to scrub it or scour it
with anything harsh in order to get it clean, or
you'll start going right through that new coating. And because
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of all of this, I don't recommend doing it. And
that's why I took you another direction, and I ask you, kur,
let's talk about taking out this sink, because I am
in no way, shape or form convinced that that sink
can't come out and and that you can't have the
new sink that you actually want to put in there.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Good to know?
Speaker 5 (22:14):
Good, Okay, I need reference or some how to find
somebody that actually do I go through a painter, you know,
not a painter contractor that specializes in think or if
you have a reference that something I.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Don't know, because everybody's everywhere and in southern California is
a really big place. Uh. You could talk to a
A Yeah, I think I would. Basically, I would start
with actually talking to a qualified plumber to begin with okay,
because it's quite often the plumber that mounts the sink
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underneath the cabinets to begin with uh, And so talk
to qualified plumber first if and then secondarily a cabinet
and countertop person okay. And you can find them. They're
out there. You search for them, you'll find them in
your area, and you can get the hopefully they'll give
you the same advice that I just gave you. But
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at the end of the day, I'm telling you, Cindy,
it's worth waiting and searching and looking. You can find somebody,
and when you do, you're going to get a new sink.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
Well, that's why I called. I really appreciate your opinion.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
You are so very welcome, and thanks for calling back
after not getting on the show when you called previously.
I so appreciate it. That's why we move callers like
you to the front of the line. Cindy, Thanks and
good luck with that. And it may not be the
easiest thing to find somebody right away, but it'll be
well worth it in the end, because you're not gonna
like your painted resin sin. All right, y'all, when we
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come back, more of your calls your home. Dean Sharp
the house Whisperer, Maybe AI is my friend? All right,
Good morning, Dean Sharp the house whisper. Welcome home. Thanks
for joining us on the program. It is and all
calls Saturday morning, and it's all about you. You get
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to host the show and tell me what we're talking
about today, anything having to do with your home inside, outside,
whatever's got you scratching your head, give me a call.
We'll put our heads together and we will get it done.
I just helped out one of our callers who was
told by a couple of different contractors, Nope, can't be done.
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I know you got. I got quite animated about that.
It is just one of my pet peeves.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
I just.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
I you know, I'm I'm the person who comes along
because you know, you call me in to work on
a redesign and I get to survey the damage that's
been done by other bad decisions. And some of those
decisions are things that just didn't get done because contractors
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say they couldn't get done, and it's just almost always
not true. So again, if you're a builder, and I
love the builders who listen to the show and our
fans of the show, I greatly appreciate you. I just
want to encourage you. Don't let those words come out
of your mouth unless you absolutely know for sure, for sure,
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one hundred percent, for sure that it's true, and that's
not going to be very often, and you know that.
Don't let those words come out of your mouth to
a homeowner who doesn't know any better. Don't tell them
it can't be done. Just be honest with them. You
don't want to do it, it's not worth it for you
to do, or you don't know how to do it,
but don't tell them it can't be done. Okay, all right, thanks, Okay,
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let's get back to the phones. I want to talk
to Matt. Hey, Matt, welcome home. Hello Dean, Hello, sir,
how can I help Dean?
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Well, my son spy in a house and there's a
foundation thing. I looked underneath the crawl space and I've
never seen this before, but I saw a bunch of
what looks like straps. They're about four inches wide by
twenty four inches long, maybe quarter inch thick, steel straps
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that are bolted two bolts or four bolts altogether. I
didn't get to look at the other side of the foundation,
but I'm assuming maybe they have a strap on that
side too, with a through bolt connecting them. Is that
a standard way to beef up a foundation?
Speaker 1 (26:36):
It can be, certainly can be. It sounds like it
may be somebody's version. If this crawl space somebody's version
of a seismic retrofit. And yeah, so I mean, are
you concerned about it or are you just curious?
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Curious? I think I know about structure a little bit,
you know, enough to get myself in trouble. I didn't
see any cracks at all in the foundation. Maybe maybe
they maybe in the day. I think it's around an
eighty year old house. Maybe they didn't put it up
steel suspective.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
That's the thing. Now, did he just buy the house
or he's buying the house he was thinking about buying
he was thinking about buying it. Yeah, yeah, okay, so
here's the thing that will answer the question. But also
is good for him to know as well. It wouldn't
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it would behoove him buying an eighty year old house
to have a foundation repair expert come out, pay him
a couple of hundred bucks to show up and just
or you know, crawl under the house and assess what's
going on under there. And the reason is that an
eighty year old house absolutely, I mean, the foundation might
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be fine, it might be in perfect shape as far
as it's no cracks, no sagging, none of like that,
but it absolutely was not seismically fit to hold the
house onto it properly by today's seismic standards. And when
we talk about seismic retrofitting, we're not talking about repairing
a damage foundation. We're talking about literally adding bolts and
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straps to literally tie the rest of the house down
onto that concrete. And that's what a seismic retrofit is,
and every house that age should have it done, because
it's not just about bouncing earthquakes and shaking earthquakes. Sometimes
what we find is just houses just slide right off,
slide right off of that perfectly good foundations because they
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were Nobody was thinking about seismic stuff eighty years ago
when houses were being built here, because we were still
importing construction styles from the East coast where earthquakes weren't
a concern, and so every house that's that's that's older
than you know, the nineteen fifties should have its foundation
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seismically retrofit to survive the next quake. And so it
would be a good idea to have a I mean,
if he's really serious about the house, to have a
foundation company come out take a quick look. They'll tell
them what those straps are. Maybe it's already been done,
maybe they're cool with it, or maybe some other things
need to be done. And that's a conversation that you
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could add to the conversation with the seller.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Got it was I clear those straps I'm speaking of
are horizontal, going the length of the foundation, not not
connecting the wood house.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
And yet there are no Yeah, yeah, that's that's a
little bit odd. That might just be somebody's attempt at reinforcing.
Again they're not being enough rebar in the concrete. But yeah, so,
but it raised the other question and you should take
a look at that as well, because that's something that
an eighty year old house definitely definitely needs. And while
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they're under there, they'll be able to tell you what
those straps are doing. If they can figure it out themselves. Matt,
thanks for the call, man, I'm up against the top
of the hour break. I appreciate you hanging on a
really interesting question. Great question. As always, more of your
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