DIY Tips and Tricks! Part 2 | Hour 2

Dean shares insights on popcorn ceiling removal, benefits of acoustic ceilings, handling asbestos in older homes. Guests from Revive Real Estate join Dean to discuss maximizing property value before selling through unique renovation approach. Dean provides DIY tips like using blue tape for home projects.

Episode Transcript

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KFI AM six forty. You're listeningto Dean Sharp The House Whisper on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. Hey,welcome to home where every week we help
you better understand that place where youlive. I am Dean Sharp the House
Whisper here with you live like Iam every weekend Saturday mornings from six to
eight Pacific time, Sunday mornings nineto noon Pacific time. Welcome to all

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of our local Southern California listeners.Welcome to all of our listeners across this
grace great nation. I know thatif you're a fan of the podcast,
what has surprised me is not thatthe podcast gets listened to nationwide, but
that so many of you decide,you know, I'm you know, I
love the podcast. I'm going totune in. I guess it's just using

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the iHeartRadio app, you get mean HD so you can hear the sound
of my resonant baritone voice. Butalso just the fact that you know,
if you're on the East Coast,it's already early afternoon for you, isn't
it. It's uh yeah, itis so not too much of a sacrifice
out of your Sunday morning. Ijust appreciate everybody who is listening, all
of our twelve faithful listeners. Aswere all right, we're talking DIY advice

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today. Just little things here andthere, but the kind of tidbits that
you know what, in the endcan make a massive difference. I got
some special guests in studio that we'regoing to be talking to in just a
bit. Michael A La Dawi andCandice Mooring from Revive are here. We're
going to talk to them next segment. But right now, top of the
hour, I want to go backto the phones. I want to talk

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to Paul. Hey, Paul,welcome home, Nice, good morning.
Then I heard a question. Iremoved popcorn ceiling. And you know,
when they apply to popcorn filling it, they don't care really how flat ceiling
is. They color every you know, im perfection. So I removed it.

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Scrape it off. I'm almost onthe paper and I'm just trying to
figure out how to make the knifesmooth and flat. Okay, yeah,
well you've discovered why the popcorn wasthere to begin with, my friend,
that's what you've done. You've dugall the way down to the hidden issues
with your ceilings. So yeah,so acoustic ceiling. All right. Acoustic

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ceilings are tricky because because so manyhomes still have acoustic ceilings. Acoustic ceilings
just so you know, we're namedthat talk about branding man. Technically,
an acoustic ceiling gets sold originally ashey, look you've got that big flat

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ceiling up above you. You don'tlike the echo in the room. There's
this acoustic ceiling material that we've comeup with, and it just makes rooms
quiet and warmer and acoustically more tenable. Well yeah, okay, yeah,
a little bit, yes, yes, there's a little bit of sound absorption
and a little bit of reverberation disruptionfrom a popcorn ceiling. But let's be

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honest. Acoustic ceilings were designed tohelp builders in their mass building process so
that they could roll out the ceilingjoists across the room and not worry about
whether they were straight, whether theceiling had waves in them, and they

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could tell the dry wallers just getin there and dry wall that ceiling.
Don't worry about making it flat.You know, it could it could roll
like the ocean. Okay, Butacoustic ceiling, because it visually disrupts your
visual continuity of the ceiling that's itsmain job is to hide the fact that
your ceiling waves like the American flagin a fifty mile an hour wind.

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So a lot of people are like, I'm going to scrape my ceiling,
and as you should. As youshould, okay, especially in today's day
and age, careful, you're gonnascrape your ceiling because if it's old enough,
it may have an asbestos content init, and you're not supposed to
be touching it. If you ifit has asbestos, you should have it
tested if you know that it is. Let's say, if it's a if

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it's an acoustic ceiling that is youngerthan you know, I'm just gonna give
you a safe parameter. Younger thannineteen eighty, then you should have it
tested. If you know for certainit was built after nineteen eighty, you
don't have to worry about that.But younger than nineteen eighty, there's a
chance. And if it's before themid seventies, it's almost a guarantee that
there's asbestos. Now, abatements arevery very expensive, okay, very expensive,

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And so this is gonna I'm gonnaget to your the answer of your
question, Paul. But I justwanted to kind of, you know,
set up the pitch as it were. Here is the thing. You've got
two choices when it comes to youracoustic ceiling. Number One, you scrape
it like you did Paul, andyou end up with your crazy wavy ceiling
up above you. Number Two,if it's an asbestos ceiling and you don't

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want to pay for the abatement,Okay, Remember asbestos, as harmful as
it is to human contact, itis only harmful when it has been released
into the air as a particulate thatwe breathe in. Okay. Just the
fact that there's asbestos sitting there onthe ceiling doesn't hurt anybody, Okay.
And so the easiest way, theless expensive way to deal with acoustic ceilings

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that have asbestos in them is toencapsulate them. Encapsulating simply means we're going
to put another layer of a brandnew layer of drywall right on top.
Okay. Now you're going to reducethe height of your ceiling in the room
by a half an inch. Bigdeal. Nobody cares about that, right,
It's imperceptible. But in doing so, it allows you two things.
Number One, you get your smoothceiling, brand new drywall ceiling. Number

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two, If you hire a drywallerwho knows what they're doing, and you
pay them to give you the smoothfinish that you want, then they can
shim the drywall as it goes in, uh, so that we end up
with an actual flat and smooth ceilingthat you're gonna love. Now, that's
if you encapsulate. If you chooseto scrape, you have to work with

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what you got. And at thatpoint, what you're looking for is you
want to talk to your drywallers aboutcoating the ceiling in mud. Okay,
in other words, drywall mud,the same drywall compound that essentially that we
tape joints with, we want tocover the whole ceiling with. And what
they're gonna do is they're going togo thicker in some areas, thinner in
others and give you and yes it'san art form, but they're gonna give

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you. Here's the keyword. Youwant to ask for a type five finish
on the ceiling. Type five.Type five means that what you're expecting is
just absolute flat and smooth, nodivots, no waving whatsoever. That means
that they bring the highs and theybring they fill in the lows and what
you get in the end is asheet of glass, just a beautiful,

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smooth, lovely ceiling. Now isthat more expensive than just having drywall slammed
up? Yes? It is.Is it worth it? It is worth
it in spades because that ceiling willnow forever be exactly what you imagined it
always could be. But you know, there is a reason why the builder
didn't do it to begin with,because it was going to cost them incrementally

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more money on every house that theyproduced, and so they just skipped over
that shot the ceiling with acoustics sono one would notice. Now your home,
it means something to you. You'regoing to stay there, You go
for the Type five drywall finish,or you encapsulate. Either way you make
it flat. And those are yourtwo approaches, my friend. And thank
you for your question, and goodluck on your ceiling. And I hope

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there was an asbestos in it whenyou scrape it. I'm assuming there wasn't.
Okay, y'all. When we comeback, we're going to take a
little side note here and we're goingto talk to my special in studio guests
Michael A. Ladawi and Candice Morningfrom Revive about and you guys know Revive,
right, We're going to talk aboutwhat they got going on, and
we're going to talk about getting yourhome ready to sell and exactly what that

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means and how to maximize all thepotential profit that you could pull out of
it, even if you know fora fact that it's not ready right now.
These guys are here to help youout, all right. We'll do
all of that and more when wereturn. You're listening to Home with Dean
Sharp on demand from KFI AM sixforty. We are spending some time today

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just talking about DIY tricks and tips. You see, when I think about
it and I say it slowly enough, I don't screw it up, Tony,
So tricks and tips, tips andtricks anyway, because I know that
your you know, your springtime listis growing, and I know that a
lot of you are going to tacklesome of that stuff on your own.

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So I'm just sharing some things withyou today that are going to make,
I think, a huge difference,because it's usually the little things, the
little things that end up frustrating youso much on your little home improvement projects.
So very very important stuff. We'llget back to that in just a
bit. But right now in studiowith me, I have a very special

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couple of guests. I've got MichaelA La Dawi and Candace More And Candace
is floating around the studio with hervideo on kind of capturing the action here.
Michael is behind the mike. MichaelA. Ladawi, co founder of
Revive, and Michael, thanks forbeing on the show man, Thank you,
good morning. So we want totalk about I just want to take

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some time and however much time weneed to talk about what you guys do
and uh yeah, talk about somethingthat's a little bit antithetical to what we
normally uh the direction we're normally headedhere, but super super important. Right
the show is home. We talkabout all things regard your home. Most
of the time as a designer,I'm talking to you about how to really

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own your home for yourself, howto make it a truly, truly custom
home and your forever home. Butthe fact of the matter is, some
of you, all of us arewe find ourselves in a position every once
in a while where it's time tosell a house. And when it comes
time to sell house, we gotto think very very differently about it.
At that point. So I wantto kind of get into some of that

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with Michael here. But first ofall, tell us who you are.
Tell me about Revive and why it'simportant. Awesome, Thankstein. Well,
like you said on my call,Ali the founder and CEO of a company
called Revive, whose mission is tohelp homeowners maximize the value of their homes

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by making you know, pre sellrenovations a little bit easier, a little
bit more transparent, taking down someof those barriers finding and hiring and managing
that contractor and the money. Andso that's what revives all about, helping
the average everyday consumer not leave moneyon the table when they are selling their
home. Okay, so we're talkingabout selling a house. I got a

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house, and I know that itis not you know, it's not cutting
edge market ready. I know thisto be the case. So I have
a couple of choices right to Traditionally, either one, I'm going to try
and figure out what to do withthis place in order to improve its chances

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of selling and maybe increase my bottomline. But for most homeowners, they're
just poking around in the dark onthat one, and that's very intimidating.
I mean, I might be sellingthe house because I need the money in
the first place. Let alone theidea of like spending extra money to get
into renovation, work on it rightbefore it sells, especially these days when

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there are these companies around that they'readvertising, some of them average here on
KFI, that are just like,hey, no, no, don't do
anything, just just we'll buy yourhouse. And that sounds pretty tempting,
but I'm going to be leaving alot of money on the table if I
do that. Talk to me aboutthat, well, yeah, I mean,

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well to your first point, Usuallywhen you're selling a home, something
BIG's happening in your life. Youknow, you're moving up, you're moving
down, you're starting something new,so a lot going on. But I
think really important to you know,put a plan together and figure out if
there is some upside in your homeand realize that you know, it's not

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about it's not about you anymore,right, it's not about what you what
you want. And like you saidwe were talking before the show, you
know you're usually guiding people on changesthat they make to their home, their
forever home, and now you knowthis is going to be a new family's
home, a new person's home,and it's time to kind of orient around.

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I mean, I think if youwant to sell your home for maximum,
you need to understand what today's buyerswant, and today's buyers want move
in ready turn key homes. AndI think if you're not bringing your home
to market in a move in readyturn key condition, you're leaving money on
the table. And I think thethe faster you want to sell and the

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less you want to do, thereare companies that will offer that service.
And I think that's one of thethings that Revive is really proud of being
able to offer, is the opportunityto not leave money on the table and
just sell as is, but youknow, take down some of those bearers
that may have prevented you from,you know, taking on that project.

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Maybe it's because you did a previousproject that went completely south, and now
there's you know, a company outthere that could guide you through all that.
All right, So now I havemore than one option, that's the
point. Or I should say morethan two options, either just leaving it
all on table and just get outright or trying to dive in myself as
a as ignorant as I might beas a homeowner about like what does the

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market need, what does the marketwant, how is the best way to
go about doing it? And thenpermits and contractors, And I mean that
just sounds like if I'm trying tosell my house, that sounds like just
a nightmare for me to handle.And I would probably sit here as an
expert and say, yeah, itprobably is going to be a nightmare for
you to handle. And that's whatI love about what you guys do.

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That's one of the reasons that Ilove that you are a sponsor of the
show. We only have sponsors onour show who I really believe in what
they do, and Revive Guys isjust one of those things. So I'm
going to talk them up here foryou because that is why they are here
with us. Revive is the onlycompany I know that has this approach to

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the sale of a home. Yougot companies out there who just basically want
to direct sell, direct buy yourhome. You know what they're going to
do plan is to turn that homeover, flip it and sell it for
a big profit. Okay, Andthat's what they're all about, and you
know, hey, that is whatit is, right, But you end

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up walking away with the short sideof that stick as far as the overall
value of your house. And sohere comes Revive and you guys. We'll
talk about this in the next segment. You guys have a couple of different
programs depending on where homeowners are,but one of them the Sell three sixty.

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You guys will step up and buythe house. But the difference is
after you essentially flip the house inpartnership with the homeowner, they get a
second check coming at them, andso they end up getting to participate in
that. And I just well,one of the questions don't answer it now,

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but one of the questions I'm goingto ask you is why, I
mean, you're an expert at flippinghomes, why aren't you just flipping homes
and taking the cash and running awaywith it? Okay? And I think
most of our listeners who are usedto that are probably asking the same question.
So there we go. We'll talkabout that when we come back with
my special guest, Michael Oladawi,the founder of Revive Real Estate. Don't

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go anywhere. You are Home withDean Sharp, the house Whisper. You're
listening to Home with Dean Sharp ondemand from KFI AM six forty. You
are home with Dean Sharp, thehouse whisper that is me. Thanks for
joining us on the program this rainysouthern California Sunday morning. Always a pleasure
to have you with us. Iam talking about DIY advice, just to

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help you round out the little troublespots that you encounter as your springtime honeydew
list basically builds up and you starttackling it. I know, I know,
I'm there with you. I know. It's those little things, those
little areas that nobody talked to youabout that end up becoming a big frustration
as you try and tackle these projectson your own. So that's what we're

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talking about today, just handing outpearls I like I do every week,
but specifically on your springtime di Iwyless. But right now, right now
in studio with me Michael A LaDawi from Revive, and we're just talking
about you know, Revive as asponsor of the show. I love them.
I was just telling him during thebreak, I know of no company

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that is doing what Revive is doing, and that is why I think they
are just so unique and so awesomebecause essentially what you've done, Michael,
you guys have created a category thatdidn't exist before as far as services for
homeowners who are selling their homes.And so that's why I want to take

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the time to just sort of explainit a little bit more because I think
people who are in that position ofthinking about selling their home or have to
sell their home, or have toget out of their home quickly, whatever
the case may be, that there'sreal real benefit there, you know,
because essentially you're either going to tryand tackle bringing your house up to spec

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so that you get a better priceon the market. You got to handle
that yourself at you know, moneyout of your own pocket and all the
frustrated contractors and permits and just everythingthat you've avoided doing to your house while
you were living there yourself. Andpeople are so hesitant to do that,
and now it's so tempting, orit feels that way at least, uh

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with all of these direct buy situations, just to like, well, they're
gonna give me a fair price,right, uh so uh and just sell
it, sell it and get outof here. But you and I both
know that somebody does that, they'releaving a lot of potential value on the
table. And you guys, comealong and there is this middle path,
this middle path where a homeowner doesn'thave to have money out of pocket.

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Uh, correct me if I'm wrong. Homeowner doesn't have to put money out
of pocket. They don't have todeal with all of the hassles and headaches
of permitting and contracting and design andso on in order to get their house
up to spec. But at thesame time, they don't have to leave
all of that profit behind by justshort selling their house and getting out.
Is that a good way of kindof setting this up? Absolutely? Okay,

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So now I have one huge questionfor you, because you are an
expert real estate investor and flipper.Okay, why are you guys just not
flipping the house yourself, just likebottom dollar the house with a homeowner like
everybody else does. We use theterm vulture before, and I use it
in a loving way, But whyaren't you guys just just taking all the

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money for yourself and running Well,I think that's a fair question. Dean.
Well, first of all, youknow, remember our whole goal is
to offer an alternative to that model, right, helping homeowners maximize the value
of their homes and not you know, giving up essentially your American dream right
when you are ready to, youknow, sell the biggest investment that you

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have. So I do want tohelp as many people not leave money on
the table. But there is anotherbusiness side to it, which is,
look, if you believe in yourhome, these homes we're purchasing for typically
about eighty percent of their value today, right, and then we are renovating
them and giving you all of theupside minus a program fee, which today

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is six percent. So for us, you know, we are taking a
lot less risk, and for takinga lot less risk, we can charge
a flat fee for that and justgive all the upside to that home seller.
So you have found this middle groundwhere it's good business for you,
it's good business for a homeowner,and it's sort of a win win scenario

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where everybody gets together. So oh, it's brilliant. It's just brilliant.
Good good on you, and pleasejust stay with us and stay with the
KFI audience because everybody needs this.Tell run me through what am I going
to experience? Generally speaking? Howlong is this whole thing to take?
Like, I'm getting ready to sellmy house, so I call Revive.

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Youve got a couple of different programs, and we don't have to get into
the weeds on all the details,but generally speaking, what are you guys
going to do? Okay, well, look, if you're making the decision
to sell your home, there's mostdefinitely something that you need to do.
Again, whether it's value preserving orvalue adding. It could be minor things

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like we talked about just repairing theleaky roof for whatever. That's going to
preserve the value or value enhancing itemsthat are going to add value. So
you're going to connect with the Revive. We're going to guide you and determine
if there's value to be preserved orvalue to be added. The easiest way
is not to actually sell your hometo Revive and just take advantage of us

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match you with a contractor important point, a supported contractor a contractor that we
have a protection plan for. Okay, when you say support a content,
you have you have agreements with contractorsboth in the value of their work.
You know, the quality of theirwork and uh and what what did you

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just describe? Yeah? Supported contractorYeah, thanks for stopping me to describe
that, because that is really kindof a Revived secret sauce. Right,
It's not just matching you with acontractor like a lot of these different platforms,
but a contractor in which we've takenon all of the front and back
office activities for them. So contractorsare doing just one thing, manpowering that
job, just like they did whatthey did for me when I was a

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professional, right right, They're notyou know, they're not running around doing
ten estimates to get one. They'renot putting the plan the scope, they're
not doing the design, they're notdoing the procurement, they're not doing the
document preparation. They just focus onone thing. So you get matched with
that contractor you that is supported sothey can go quick and revive, you

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know. Essentially is ensuring that they'regoing to complete that work and they're not
going to leave you. And ifthey do, there's a production plan for
that. And again the best partis they don't have to pay for it.
So number one, if you're sellinga home and you don't have an
urgency for time, like you havefour to twelve weeks to prepare your home,
this is a great program because it'sfree. By free, I mean

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there's no like there's it's not aloan, there's no interest. You do
have to qualify, you have tohave enough equity in your home. But
if you qualify, then you getmatched. Revive pays the contractors you sell
your home, and then through theproceeds of the sale of your home,
Revive recoups the cost the money thatit fronted to the contractor to do the

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work. Now, if you don'thave that four to twelve weeks, that's
when our other program comes into play, the three sixty program, right,
and you just help people just kindof get solid and then you guys can
move forward with that without that beingyou know, on them. Yeah.
For I mean with that program,we essentially buy it, renovate it,

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sell it. You keep all theprofits minus that program fee. So essentially,
and this is why it's so weirdfor everybody. Essentially, you guys
step in and you're helping people fliptheir own homes. That's right, which
is just incredible. Michael, thanksfor being on the show man. Yeah,
I'm in a couple of minutes.I'm actually going to do a Revive

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spot for you, So you shouldstick around to hear it because I do
them really good. Yeah, thankyou. No, I love that you've
taken so much interest in our program. And taking the time to get to
know it intimately. Thank you well, it helps and that's what we're here
for too. I just love theidea that of businesses who are in business
to do good business and help peoplelegitimately help people at the same time.

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I think that's just win win whenthanks buddy, it's great having you on.
Thank you all right, y'all whenwe come back, more DIY tips
and tricks for you to day yourHome with Dean Sharp the house Whisper Loop.
You're listening to Home with Dean Sharpon demand from KFI Am six forty.
Hey y'all doing you're staying warm anddry. This morning looks like the

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sun is starting to break out alittle bit, but you know it's gonna
be a rainy day. It's springtime. Springtime means the weather can't decide what
it wants to do. That's whyright now this weekend it's all rainy and
it's cold, and the temperatures inthe fifties, and by the middle of
the week it's going to be likeeighty something and then who knows where we
go from there. Eventually, eventuallysummer is gonna elbow its way in and

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it probably won't be long from nowas well. But right now, you
know what, let's enjoy it.Lots of moisture out there for southern California.
Not a bad thing, unless,of course, that caught you flat
footed again and your house isn't readyfor it, which we've already talked about.
So anyway, talking about DIY tipsand tricks for you and your home,

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just some solid advice to help youout. Where'd I leave off?
Here's how about this? Oh,let's start with this one. There is
a tape out there that is moreuseful for you than duct tape. Now

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we all know about duct tape,right, the universal awesome tape. Every
house should have a big old rolla duct tape in it. Why because
because because you can do anything andeverything almost with duct tape, you know,
and their entire books, their entirewebsites. I think that I should
have looked, but I think theduct tape guys are still running their website

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where they just literally, you know, show you how to make everything out
of duct tape, from wallets toI don't know, cars, I'm not
sure, but there's so many thingsabout duct tape. But I am here
to tell you there is a tapout there that you need in your home
that is far more useful to youon a regular basis than duct tape.

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What is it? Are you ready? All right? I'll let you guess,
go ahead, all right? Itwas blue tape. Are you right?
Did you guess right? Blue tape, Blue masking tape. Okay.
Blue tape is more useful I havefound for most people than duct tape.
Why because it does what duct tapedoesn't do, which is it doesn't stick

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very well. And that's intentional.No, no, it's intentional. You
are not going to repair anything aroundyour house with blue tape, right.
Blue tape is a masking tape thatis designed to get stuck on a wall
or a thing and then hang onfor as long as it needs to,
and then be removed cleanly without messingup paint, without damaging a wall or

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damaging anything that it's or leaving behindany kind of sticky, weird residue.
Blue tape. Blue tape is amassively underutilized tool for you to have at
your home. It comes in everyimaginable width, from little half inch wide
rolls all the way up to twothree inch wide rolls of blue tape.

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Blue tape is great for hanging pictures. Why, here's the thing, all
right, now, listen to thedesigner tell you about how to use blue
tape for your home. You're ina room and you're trying to figure out
where should we what size pictures?We need something on the wall in here.
I really like that picture that wesaw at the art gallery. How

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big was it? It was threeby four? Willout even work in here?
Get out the blue tape. Putup a three by four square on
the wall. Draw it. That'swhat I'm saying. I use blue tape
to draw on people's floors, onpeople's walls, sometimes on people's ceilings all
the time. We want to figureout what the furniture. What will that

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l sofa unit look like in aroom like this? Is it too big?
Will there? Will it have theright vibe? What's the scale of
it in this room? Get outthe blue tape. We're gonna tape out
where the table and the chairs aregonna go. We're gonna tape out where
the sofa unit's gonna go. We'regonna put it right on your floor so
we can see exactly what it's goingto look like. You see the walk

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space around it. We lay outkitchens this way, we lay out a
kitchen in somebody's space so they canunderstand what the new layout is going to
look like. Will lay out ceilingelements, will lay out photos and paintings
and artwork on walls. There wasI think I did this from my mother
in law, Tina did I Yes, I did. Back years and years

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ago. She wasn't sure she wanteda fireplace in between her living room and
her dining room. She wasn't sureexactly what it would look. I taped
out the entire fireplace on the wall, every detail from the ground molding to
the mantle to the firebox itself,in blue tape. Blue tape. My
friend is your friend. You wantto figure out how to hang a picture

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and get it level, Put alevel line of blue tape. You don't
have to use a pen or apencil or anything that's gonna mark up the
wall. Just use the tape.Okay, here's another thing. Let's say
we're not doing design stuff. Let'ssay you've got a little project going on.
You got to disassemble something. Yougot to take a door off of
its hinges, you got to unscrewa thing, You got to dismantle a

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door knob, anything that's got abunch of little screws. Guess what,
you know what you've all experienced.What it's like the frustration of turning around.
Okay, you ready to put itback together again? Where'd the screw?
We're missing a screw. Where didthe screw go? Okay, So
here's the thing some of you havedecided. Well, what I do is

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I get out a little tupperware bowland I'm just gonna put everything in there.
That's great, all right, unless, of course, you knock the
bowl over and everything goes scattering acrossthe floor and you lose something underneath the
piece of furniture where you can't reachit. So what do I do?
My favorite thing to do, bluetape. Pull out the blue tape,
lay it down, sticky side up. As a screw comes out of a

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door knob or a hinge or wherever, boom, just set it down on
that little tacky strip of blue tape. Boom, boom, boom. One
screw. Next, screw this partthat part, and then fold over another
piece of tape on top of it. And guess what. There they sit
Ready, they can't go anywhere.They can't fall out. You shove it
in your pocket, you can putit in your work apron. You can

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just tape it to the wall.You can tape it to the thing that
you are working on until you areready to put it back together again.
Blue tape. It's amazing. Whatelse do I have here marking out punch
list items on a job? Okay, here's the thing. You got a
contractor working on your house. We'renearing the end of the process. We

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get into the phase where it's punchlesstime. That is, you're walking around
now, contractor's gone home. You'reinspecting the job, looking for any little
little things that they're going to needto take care of before they disappear forever.
It's one thing to write them downon a list. You're like,
oh, there's a tile in thebathroom where there's a little bit of grout
missing. Okay, that's fine,write that down on your list as you

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create the punchless But you need tobe able to find it the next day.
And how are you going to findit? Blue tape? You're going
to tear off a little piece ofblue tape. Get it there right on
the tile, right next to wherethe defect is splotches of blue tape all
over the house, all over theproject to make sure that everything gets seen

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right, protecting a surface from flakingor splintering as you drill through it.
Remember yesterday, if you listen toyesterday's episode, we talked about pilot holes.
Pilot holes are so important to keepfrom screwing up materials that you're attaching
things to a pilot hole before youput a screw in, before you put
a nail in, right. Well, there's another aspect to this too,

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when you have to drill through somethingthat as you start to drill through it,
you could very possibly chip or flakethe surface that you're drilling through.
Guess how you can avoid doing that. You lay down a nice tight layer
of blue tape on the surface anddrill through the tape and the surface.
Once the hole is done, pullthe blue tape up. Guess what it

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did. It held everything exactly whereit needs to go, no chance of
flaking or splintering. You have anice clean hole. And yes, Dean
could go on and on, wecould do it on tire show on blue
tape, and we're not going todo it, so don't worry. But
when we come back We will continuewith tips and tricks for all things DIY

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