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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand. There
is much that can distract you in life, always something
that's in your view. But nothing should ever take your
(00:21):
eyes from me. Paul in Romans wrote, who shall separate
us from the Love of Christ? Romans eight thirty five.
Now the way he says it and puts it to
paper is that nothing can. That is the answer, nothing can.
(00:53):
But I want to ask you today, what are the
things that distract you? The strange part is that there
are many things that kind of cloak themselves in the
guise of Christianity or spirituality that will take your eyes
from me. Some things you even think come from me.
(01:19):
But you learn in scripture that the enemy is an
enemy of counterfeits. He loves to produce things that are
going to distract you, to mimic. And it's not that
the enemy can duplicate the things of God, but he
(01:40):
surely can mimic things and distract you and make you
think that maybe you're hearing from God. And I know.
At this point you go, well, then how do I know?
You know? If the enemy and I stood before you,
you'd know the difference. The Gnostics were a group of
(02:03):
people that believed they knew things, they had higher knowledge
than everyone else. That's a bad sign. They led themselves
and other people astray by convincing themselves and others that
(02:25):
they had some sort of direct line to God, and
therefore the word of God didn't even matter. But I
want you to think about counterfeits for a moment. I
want you to think about how counterfeits come across your life.
Something deep down inside you usually tells you there's a problem.
(02:50):
The way it came across your hands, the generosity of
an individual didn't seem to match the situation. Whatever it is.
Ask questions. Don't lose sight of God, and don't justify
the things around you to make you feel better. I
(03:14):
didn't spend the time with the Father and the Spirit
to put together an entire love letter to you called
the Bible for you to disregard it, just toss it out.
I hear people use the term organized religion a lot,
(03:34):
and then I hear people use the term spirituality, and
it seems that spirituality has kind of an upturned nose
at organized religion. Organized religion has become a pejorative, a
bad word. Yet spirituality somehow sounds open minded, and loving
(03:56):
sounds deeply personal, intimate, but many times it is not.
It's a manufactured excuse to not be connected, to not
be accountable to God. And I know that there's a
lot of wonderful things to talk about in scripture that
(04:18):
seem like, oh that you know, they don't ask a
lot of me, and I can just love God and
smile through it all and it's going to be great.
And God's just about one big happy thought. Oh, there
are consequences to all things. If there is any truth,
then there's also that which is not true that has consequences.
(04:43):
And this whole time, my only desire is to get
your attention to see the truth. I know it's often
easier to go down a different path, the path that
you don't have to struggle with as much. And I'm
(05:04):
not sure where that came from. I'm not sure where
you got in scripture that life wasn't going to still
have difficulties just because you believed. You See, Christianity doesn't
remove the problems from your life. Christianity helps you work
through them.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Now.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
It doesn't mean that your life can't get easier because
you're applying certain principles that are healthy, that are efficient
because they go in line with the will of God.
This is true. My concern is that you're looking for
the easy way at all. It's been said that if
(05:52):
there's no resistance in your life, then you're floating downstream.
The resistance comes as you swim with all your might
against the current go upstream. I don't want you to
get to that place, that laziness where you start dealing
(06:15):
with spirituality, which is kind of this ambiguous term used
for anything that has to deal with God. But there's
no accountability, there's no connection. That means nothing. How would
you like your house to be built by someone who
(06:38):
has a strict understanding to the laws and concepts of measurement,
or someone who doesn't believe in rulers, doesn't believe in
having set demarcations of size, but rather arbitrary ideas and
(07:03):
beliefs of what space and size is. It's kind of
a contractor's spirituality rather than the ruler. There's nothing wrong
with having rules and accountability. It's what moves things forward.
(07:25):
But if you go through scripture where a pair of
scissors and take out what you don't like and leave
in what you do, you come up with something, But
it's not the word of God. If you continue to
twist and to mutate scripture saying oh that was for
(07:48):
then it's not for now. If you continue to do
these things, you get lost. So when Paul states, quite confidently,
shall separate us from the love of Christ, the answer
obviously being no one and nothing. But I will tell
you that the thing that will is getting too comfortable
(08:13):
to be at peace with a kind of backstore black
market Christianity. Mainstream does have its purpose. Abraham Lincoln said
that God loved the average man, That's why he made
(08:36):
so many of them. That kind of mainstream notion is okay.
The desire to break away and be an individual is
important for the sake of not being a sheep for
sheep's sake, But you don't break away from that which works,
that which is identified with God, that it which is true,
(09:00):
the word of God. Because you have a problem with
organized religion. Organized religion will let you down every time,
but there's a purpose to it, and that structure is important.
The only thing you have left outside of that is
disorganized religion. I like people who run from scripture saying, well,
(09:24):
it was concocted by man, as if their ideas come
from somewhere else, back to the Gnostics, that belief that
you have a direct connection with God and that you
don't need to listen to scripture or priests or pastors
or preachers, that all these things do come together. And
(09:47):
my beloved, I want you to I want you to
seek the knowledge of scripture, to spend time in God's word,
to not fear it or to fear God's people, because
these things will point towards accountability. Joan, Welcome to the
(10:09):
Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Thank you for taking my call, my pleasure.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
You are very patient. How can I help you?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Well?
Speaker 3 (10:17):
I need some help in trying to get over feelings
of that has been caused by betrayal.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
What's going on?
Speaker 3 (10:28):
I was to be married to a man that's been
my friend for three years. We're both Christians, we go
to church. We went through premarital counseling at our church
with the pastor who was going to perform the service. Okay,
we scored highly on an assessment that we did concerning
(10:52):
our core values.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
We were, in all our intents and purposes, a really
good company.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Three weeks before we were to be married. I'm the
sixteenth he presents me with a prenuptial agreement. No prenups
are not condoned by our church understood. The prenup basically
said that he and I, financially speaking, would be living
(11:23):
as if we were unmarried.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
The eighteen page document contained no provisions.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Whatsoever for my welfare should he pass before I do.
I'm in my sixties, so I'm not a real young
person here.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Well, you're not a real old person.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
No, I don't think that I am. And the devastation
that I have felt, and the fact that he immediately
became defensive when I questioned his intent concerning this documents
and truly what was in his heart. In other words,
(12:05):
I became very distrustful.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Yeah, rightly. So now I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you
to hold on that that thought. You've been very patient,
but I want to talk to you some more because
you're probably not the only one that's been in a
circumstance like this, Joan. And then it kind of creeps
up at you know, the last moment moment and shows
its ugly head. But hang tight because I have some
(12:29):
thoughts about that and hopefully some comfort for you in
just a moment, and we were chatting with Joan, and Joan,
you were engaged to a man, you'd known him for
three years. You did say the premarital counseling. All the
(12:52):
numbers looked good, Everything looked good. And then all of
a sudden, he throws uh, pre up into the situation,
one of which your church doesn't recognize as a policy
against pre naps.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
So, and it seems like a very specific situation too,
where he he's not leaving any money or anything like that,
and that you are to live separately. Now does he
have a lot of money, No, he owns.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
A home, he has a condo, and he's a small
business owner.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
How many times has he been married twice?
Speaker 2 (13:30):
As have I?
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Okay, boy, why round three?
Speaker 3 (13:42):
I wanted to and I felt that because we were
Christians and we would go into this marriage with God
at the top, and he and myself and.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
You guys weren't Christian before, Yes.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
We were, but in previous marriages it wasn't the rules,
and it wasn't what we lose to buy. At least
for me, it was not. I grew up as an Episcopalian,
so I've had.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Jesus in my life since I was a little girl.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
To you. Both your lack of trust and his need
for a prenup probably isn't out of the norm for
two people that have been married twice already. Right, he
doesn't trust you, you don't trust him, or you don't
trust yourself.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Well, it's I think that I did. I truly believe
that I trusted him, because when he mentions the pre
nup to me, I said, please go ahead, have the
paperwork drawn up. I'm sure that it will be something
that's very fair and equal to both of us. What
I was presented with was to the contrary. And luckily
(15:07):
I have a friend who happens to be a family
lawyer that I work with, and she looked at it
and she said, do not sign this. And every time
I mentioned to him, please, you need to go back
to your lawyer and you know, make it so that
if you pass away, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
I was not concerned about the divorce thing. That was
not anything that I was.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Going to deal with because I had no intention of
divorcing him, okay, but for him to not allow provisions
for me should he pass away.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
In other words, it was.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
More of a mind mind mind mind and not.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Wanting to take care of me. It hurt, Jesus.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Well, you know there's of course it does, and you
know there's a it's about God's turn. A prenap only
says I love you, but not that much. And I
think that there are certain very rare circumstances where they're
beneficial or needed in very complicated households, not your average household.
(16:17):
But most of the time they're just a huge red flag.
And I know that you want someone in your life
and that there was all these wonderful signs, but this
is one that I would run from. It's not worth it.
You're looking at round three and then round four and
then round five, and it's just really at this point,
(16:39):
it sounds like from what you're describing that it's not
a good fit.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
I need to hear I needed to hear that.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
From you, Jesus.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
They're scary.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
You know.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
You hear it from loving family members, you hear it
from your girlfriends, But I needed to hear it from you.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Well, I think you knew it all along. You'd be
surprised on this program. How much is you know confirmation
and not information? Yes you knew.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
It, Yes, Jesus, I knew it, and you.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Just need to stand on that, and that's hard, very hard.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
I had pretty much wrapped my life around this man.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
We had.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
I mean, our whole relationship was you make loving fun.
But when it came down to the real nitty gritty,
the really important piece of taking care of one another,
I realized he's just not there for me.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Well, a real relationship, a real, real, real relationship, should
be fun, but it can only be fun when everything
else is taken care of. And Joan, if you imagine,
you know the things in life that you think are fun,
whether it be in the ocean, or running, or going
(18:04):
to an amusement park, anything that you might think is fun,
think of the amount of things that you need to
be aware of before they're made fun. At the amusement park,
ere all the checks and balances have to be made
otherwise you could have a horrible disaster. So that fun,
those fleeting moments of fun that you're enjoying, really took
months and months of preparation, sometimes years of preparation to
(18:26):
make sure the safeties were put in place. Even running,
you see the amount of time that's put into people
doing calisthenics or stretching or doing things that are going
to prepare them for the run and not just going
out and running swimming the same thing, the preparation that
takes place, the proper gear, these types of things. If
you don't have those in place, then really, what is
(18:48):
a wonderful thing becomes a scary thing because you're not
taking the time to put the structure in. So a
relationship should be fun, but it should be fun because
they're safety and security, not because there's the lack thereof.
This is another reason why people get bent out of
shape when it comes to religion. It's like, oh, no,
I'm spiritual. What does that mean. It just means that
(19:09):
you don't have any structure in your life. And people
do that because they don't want to be accountable. And
if this person doesn't want to be accountable to you
in every way, shape or form, there's problems. I get
people calling up here saying, Oh, I love my church
and I love my pastor, but you know, I don't
want to give money. It's like, so you'll trust your
(19:31):
pastor with your very soul and the information that you're
fed into your soul, your spiritual upbringing and understanding of
the Word of God, but you won't trust them with
your wallet. Ugh, that should be the first thing. Big deal, here,
take my money. But in a relationship, when you find
(19:56):
people that get caught up in the money aspect, and
you know, we're constantly focusing on that and it's not
seen as as a common commodity, there's always going to
be problems. That kind of division is the first lines
that are that are drawn in the relationship, that start showing, Okay,
(20:18):
this is mine, this is yours. If it's not ours,
then it doesn't belong. And I remember hearing a dear
friend of the program was sharing about being a newlywed
with her husband and there you know now have been
(20:39):
married for for many years, but at the time she said,
the first time they went to the store together and
she went to go pay for something, you know, like
start splitting it up, going on here, I'll pay for mine.
Her new husband looked at him and looked at her like,
what are you doing.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
This?
Speaker 1 (21:00):
It's not your money or my money, it's our money,
and it's our things. We do it together. And then
you start going, okay, I get that if we're now
a team. But if you start that relationship, you start
that relationship saying okay, this is mine. This is mine,
this is mine. It's never going to get better. It's
(21:21):
never going to get better. And I know it hurts now,
but my goodness, it is. It is well worth not
having that garbage in your life, I assure you. Roger,
welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
Yes, good morning, and thanks for your show.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Oh you're welcome, Roger. However help you today?
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Well, I got a little life experience story to tell you.
If you got a couple of minutes.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Here, sure, I'm here for you.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
I grew up. I'm sixty five. I grew up in
pretty strict setting as a youngster growing up, and was
baptized when I was about nine years old, and as
a teenager I walked away from it, joined the world,
(22:15):
so to speak, and had an experience when I was
twelve thirteen that was a life changer on the negative
side of things, and that experience led them to problems
through life. I became eventually after in that proverbial desert
(22:42):
for about forty forty five years, if you know what
I mean. Sure, and it's been kind of kind of
a slow morphosis getting back to the straight and narrow.
So my question is this ever too late?
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Do you think not if you could ask that question. Okay,
it's it's one of those things, Roger that essentially it's
it's about while you're here on Earth, that's your opportunity.
If you reject it. While you're here on Earth, it's
basically telling God that you don't want to be with
(23:24):
him for eighty ninety one hundred years, measly little years
on Earth. Then God won't force you to be with
him for eternity. So the Father says those things and says, essentially,
you don't want to be with me now while you're
here on Earth, I'm not going to force you to
(23:44):
do it for eternity. There's a place where I am not.
They call it Hell, and it has all these these
visions of flames and things like that. But really what
it is about is so much even for the non believer,
the atheists, whatever. On Earth, you're still reaping the benefits
of God being sovereign over the planet. But when you
(24:06):
imagine this place where God is not, then there is
nothing that satiates. Ever, there is nothing that will quench
your thirst. Nothing that's the intensity of Hell is really
the absence of God. So as long as you can
ask those questions, Roger. As long as you are searching
and you're trying to come to a conclusion, and most importantly,
(24:27):
you come to a conclusion prior to death, then you're fine.
If you imagine it this way, Roger, there's you have
illness A, and there is an antidote to illness A.
As long as you're still alive. Whenever you come across
it and take it, you're fine. But if you die
(24:51):
not taking it, it can't do anything, can't help you
at that point. And likewise, if you die in a
state of rejecting God, then you've basically rejected the antidote.
So the fact that you're still alive and asking these questions,
you're in a good place.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
All right. Appreciate those words.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
You're very, very welcome as long as you are on
And everyone goes through different paths, Roger. And there are
Christians that struggle, and Christians aren't perfect by any stretch.
As a matter of fact, a lot of their sins
are more glaring and more obvious because of that struggle.
(25:33):
Paul said it this way. Paul said, the spirit is willing,
but the flesh is weak, and so that is incredibly true.
There will always be a battle between your sin nature
and your desire to serve God and to seek and
to know God. That will be forever. That'll be forever
on this earth. You will be battling that that will
only come into balance in heaven. But regardless of what
(25:59):
you've done in the past, God always wants you to
move forward. The powerful thing is to think of my
death on the cross two thousand years ago. When you
think I died on the cross, the last words one
of the seven of the things that I said on
the cross, the last of them was to tell us die.
(26:21):
And there was many arguments and still are sometimes as
to what that specifically means and what the root word was.
And and it's in some scriptures. It's some scripture it's
it's translated as it is finished. Some it's it is done,
and some think that it might even be a merchant's
term for paid in full. So really they all mean
(26:45):
the same thing. But it's done. So what I didn't say, Roger,
I didn't say on the cross, Well, this covers this sin,
but only the ones current or it this is for
all the sins. So the payment's been made. Your acceptance
of that payment is what part you play in it.
(27:07):
To accept that payment, accept the process, the will of God.
That's what becomes important. That's where you come in. So
that was God looking forward, And as I was on
that cross, I was looking at every sin you will
ever do while you're alive. So of course they're forgiven.
(27:30):
Anything that you've done up until this point, and anything
you will do up until the point of death will
be forgiven. The reconciliation heaven, relationship with God, those types
of things comes through the acceptance of Me and who
I am in your life, and who the Father is,
and the Holy Spirit and the way you live in
(27:53):
conjunction with that from now moving forward. So don't beat
yourself up about the past, look towards the future with
God in that place of peace and understanding that that
peace that actually surpasses understanding, and move forward with your
eyes on God. K f I A M six forty
(28:16):
on demand
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand. There
is much that can distract you in life, always something
that's in your view. But nothing should ever take your
(00:21):
eyes from me. Paul in Romans wrote, who shall separate
us from the Love of Christ? Romans eight thirty five.
Now the way he says it and puts it to
paper is that nothing can. That is the answer, nothing can.
(00:53):
But I want to ask you today, what are the
things that distract you? The strange part is that there
are many things that kind of cloak themselves in the
guise of Christianity or spirituality that will take your eyes
from me. Some things you even think come from me.
(01:19):
But you learn in scripture that the enemy is an
enemy of counterfeits. He loves to produce things that are
going to distract you, to mimic. And it's not that
the enemy can duplicate the things of God, but he
(01:40):
surely can mimic things and distract you and make you
think that maybe you're hearing from God. And I know.
At this point you go, well, then how do I know?
You know? If the enemy and I stood before you,
you'd know the difference. The Gnostics were a group of
(02:03):
people that believed they knew things, they had higher knowledge
than everyone else. That's a bad sign. They led themselves
and other people astray by convincing themselves and others that
(02:25):
they had some sort of direct line to God, and
therefore the word of God didn't even matter. But I
want you to think about counterfeits for a moment. I
want you to think about how counterfeits come across your life.
Something deep down inside you usually tells you there's a problem.
(02:50):
The way it came across your hands, the generosity of
an individual didn't seem to match the situation. Whatever it is.
Ask questions. Don't lose sight of God, and don't justify
the things around you to make you feel better. I
(03:14):
didn't spend the time with the Father and the Spirit
to put together an entire love letter to you called
the Bible for you to disregard it, just toss it out.
I hear people use the term organized religion a lot,
(03:34):
and then I hear people use the term spirituality, and
it seems that spirituality has kind of an upturned nose
at organized religion. Organized religion has become a pejorative, a
bad word. Yet spirituality somehow sounds open minded, and loving
(03:56):
sounds deeply personal, intimate, but many times it is not.
It's a manufactured excuse to not be connected, to not
be accountable to God. And I know that there's a
lot of wonderful things to talk about in scripture that
(04:18):
seem like, oh that you know, they don't ask a
lot of me, and I can just love God and
smile through it all and it's going to be great.
And God's just about one big happy thought. Oh, there
are consequences to all things. If there is any truth,
then there's also that which is not true that has consequences.
(04:43):
And this whole time, my only desire is to get
your attention to see the truth. I know it's often
easier to go down a different path, the path that
you don't have to struggle with as much. And I'm
(05:04):
not sure where that came from. I'm not sure where
you got in scripture that life wasn't going to still
have difficulties just because you believed. You See, Christianity doesn't
remove the problems from your life. Christianity helps you work
through them.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Now.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
It doesn't mean that your life can't get easier because
you're applying certain principles that are healthy, that are efficient
because they go in line with the will of God.
This is true. My concern is that you're looking for
the easy way at all. It's been said that if
(05:52):
there's no resistance in your life, then you're floating downstream.
The resistance comes as you swim with all your might
against the current go upstream. I don't want you to
get to that place, that laziness where you start dealing
(06:15):
with spirituality, which is kind of this ambiguous term used
for anything that has to deal with God. But there's
no accountability, there's no connection. That means nothing. How would
you like your house to be built by someone who
(06:38):
has a strict understanding to the laws and concepts of measurement,
or someone who doesn't believe in rulers, doesn't believe in
having set demarcations of size, but rather arbitrary ideas and
(07:03):
beliefs of what space and size is. It's kind of
a contractor's spirituality rather than the ruler. There's nothing wrong
with having rules and accountability. It's what moves things forward.
(07:25):
But if you go through scripture where a pair of
scissors and take out what you don't like and leave
in what you do, you come up with something, But
it's not the word of God. If you continue to
twist and to mutate scripture saying oh that was for
(07:48):
then it's not for now. If you continue to do
these things, you get lost. So when Paul states, quite confidently,
shall separate us from the love of Christ, the answer
obviously being no one and nothing. But I will tell
you that the thing that will is getting too comfortable
(08:13):
to be at peace with a kind of backstore black
market Christianity. Mainstream does have its purpose. Abraham Lincoln said
that God loved the average man, That's why he made
(08:36):
so many of them. That kind of mainstream notion is okay.
The desire to break away and be an individual is
important for the sake of not being a sheep for
sheep's sake, But you don't break away from that which works,
that which is identified with God, that it which is true,
(09:00):
the word of God. Because you have a problem with
organized religion. Organized religion will let you down every time,
but there's a purpose to it, and that structure is important.
The only thing you have left outside of that is
disorganized religion. I like people who run from scripture saying, well,
(09:24):
it was concocted by man, as if their ideas come
from somewhere else, back to the Gnostics, that belief that
you have a direct connection with God and that you
don't need to listen to scripture or priests or pastors
or preachers, that all these things do come together. And
(09:47):
my beloved, I want you to I want you to
seek the knowledge of scripture, to spend time in God's word,
to not fear it or to fear God's people, because
these things will point towards accountability. Joan, Welcome to the
(10:09):
Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Thank you for taking my call, my pleasure.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
You are very patient. How can I help you?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Well?
Speaker 3 (10:17):
I need some help in trying to get over feelings
of that has been caused by betrayal.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
What's going on?
Speaker 3 (10:28):
I was to be married to a man that's been
my friend for three years. We're both Christians, we go
to church. We went through premarital counseling at our church
with the pastor who was going to perform the service. Okay,
we scored highly on an assessment that we did concerning
(10:52):
our core values.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
We were, in all our intents and purposes, a really
good company.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Three weeks before we were to be married. I'm the
sixteenth he presents me with a prenuptial agreement. No prenups
are not condoned by our church understood. The prenup basically
said that he and I, financially speaking, would be living
(11:23):
as if we were unmarried.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
The eighteen page document contained no provisions.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Whatsoever for my welfare should he pass before I do.
I'm in my sixties, so I'm not a real young
person here.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Well, you're not a real old person.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
No, I don't think that I am. And the devastation
that I have felt, and the fact that he immediately
became defensive when I questioned his intent concerning this documents
and truly what was in his heart. In other words,
(12:05):
I became very distrustful.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Yeah, rightly. So now I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you
to hold on that that thought. You've been very patient,
but I want to talk to you some more because
you're probably not the only one that's been in a
circumstance like this, Joan. And then it kind of creeps
up at you know, the last moment moment and shows
its ugly head. But hang tight because I have some
(12:29):
thoughts about that and hopefully some comfort for you in
just a moment, and we were chatting with Joan, and Joan,
you were engaged to a man, you'd known him for
three years. You did say the premarital counseling. All the
(12:52):
numbers looked good, Everything looked good. And then all of
a sudden, he throws uh, pre up into the situation,
one of which your church doesn't recognize as a policy
against pre naps.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
So, and it seems like a very specific situation too,
where he he's not leaving any money or anything like that,
and that you are to live separately. Now does he
have a lot of money, No, he owns.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
A home, he has a condo, and he's a small
business owner.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
How many times has he been married twice?
Speaker 2 (13:30):
As have I?
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Okay, boy, why round three?
Speaker 3 (13:42):
I wanted to and I felt that because we were
Christians and we would go into this marriage with God
at the top, and he and myself and.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
You guys weren't Christian before, Yes.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
We were, but in previous marriages it wasn't the rules,
and it wasn't what we lose to buy. At least
for me, it was not. I grew up as an Episcopalian,
so I've had.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Jesus in my life since I was a little girl.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
To you. Both your lack of trust and his need
for a prenup probably isn't out of the norm for
two people that have been married twice already. Right, he
doesn't trust you, you don't trust him, or you don't
trust yourself.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Well, it's I think that I did. I truly believe
that I trusted him, because when he mentions the pre
nup to me, I said, please go ahead, have the
paperwork drawn up. I'm sure that it will be something
that's very fair and equal to both of us. What
I was presented with was to the contrary. And luckily
(15:07):
I have a friend who happens to be a family
lawyer that I work with, and she looked at it
and she said, do not sign this. And every time
I mentioned to him, please, you need to go back
to your lawyer and you know, make it so that
if you pass away, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
I was not concerned about the divorce thing. That was
not anything that I was.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Going to deal with because I had no intention of
divorcing him, okay, but for him to not allow provisions
for me should he pass away.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
In other words, it was.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
More of a mind mind mind mind and not.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Wanting to take care of me. It hurt, Jesus.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Well, you know there's of course it does, and you
know there's a it's about God's turn. A prenap only
says I love you, but not that much. And I
think that there are certain very rare circumstances where they're
beneficial or needed in very complicated households, not your average household.
(16:17):
But most of the time they're just a huge red flag.
And I know that you want someone in your life
and that there was all these wonderful signs, but this
is one that I would run from. It's not worth it.
You're looking at round three and then round four and
then round five, and it's just really at this point,
(16:39):
it sounds like from what you're describing that it's not
a good fit.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
I need to hear I needed to hear that.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
From you, Jesus.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
They're scary.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
You know.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
You hear it from loving family members, you hear it
from your girlfriends, But I needed to hear it from you.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Well, I think you knew it all along. You'd be
surprised on this program. How much is you know confirmation
and not information? Yes you knew.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
It, Yes, Jesus, I knew it, and you.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Just need to stand on that, and that's hard, very hard.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
I had pretty much wrapped my life around this man.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
We had.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
I mean, our whole relationship was you make loving fun.
But when it came down to the real nitty gritty,
the really important piece of taking care of one another,
I realized he's just not there for me.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Well, a real relationship, a real, real, real relationship, should
be fun, but it can only be fun when everything
else is taken care of. And Joan, if you imagine,
you know the things in life that you think are fun,
whether it be in the ocean, or running, or going
(18:04):
to an amusement park, anything that you might think is fun,
think of the amount of things that you need to
be aware of before they're made fun. At the amusement park,
ere all the checks and balances have to be made
otherwise you could have a horrible disaster. So that fun,
those fleeting moments of fun that you're enjoying, really took
months and months of preparation, sometimes years of preparation to
(18:26):
make sure the safeties were put in place. Even running,
you see the amount of time that's put into people
doing calisthenics or stretching or doing things that are going
to prepare them for the run and not just going
out and running swimming the same thing, the preparation that
takes place, the proper gear, these types of things. If
you don't have those in place, then really, what is
(18:48):
a wonderful thing becomes a scary thing because you're not
taking the time to put the structure in. So a
relationship should be fun, but it should be fun because
they're safety and security, not because there's the lack thereof.
This is another reason why people get bent out of
shape when it comes to religion. It's like, oh, no,
I'm spiritual. What does that mean. It just means that
(19:09):
you don't have any structure in your life. And people
do that because they don't want to be accountable. And
if this person doesn't want to be accountable to you
in every way, shape or form, there's problems. I get
people calling up here saying, Oh, I love my church
and I love my pastor, but you know, I don't
want to give money. It's like, so you'll trust your
(19:31):
pastor with your very soul and the information that you're
fed into your soul, your spiritual upbringing and understanding of
the Word of God, but you won't trust them with
your wallet. Ugh, that should be the first thing. Big deal, here,
take my money. But in a relationship, when you find
(19:56):
people that get caught up in the money aspect, and
you know, we're constantly focusing on that and it's not
seen as as a common commodity, there's always going to
be problems. That kind of division is the first lines
that are that are drawn in the relationship, that start showing, Okay,
(20:18):
this is mine, this is yours. If it's not ours,
then it doesn't belong. And I remember hearing a dear
friend of the program was sharing about being a newlywed
with her husband and there you know now have been
(20:39):
married for for many years, but at the time she said,
the first time they went to the store together and
she went to go pay for something, you know, like
start splitting it up, going on here, I'll pay for mine.
Her new husband looked at him and looked at her like,
what are you doing.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
This?
Speaker 1 (21:00):
It's not your money or my money, it's our money,
and it's our things. We do it together. And then
you start going, okay, I get that if we're now
a team. But if you start that relationship, you start
that relationship saying okay, this is mine. This is mine,
this is mine. It's never going to get better. It's
(21:21):
never going to get better. And I know it hurts now,
but my goodness, it is. It is well worth not
having that garbage in your life, I assure you. Roger,
welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
Yes, good morning, and thanks for your show.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Oh you're welcome, Roger. However help you today?
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Well, I got a little life experience story to tell you.
If you got a couple of minutes.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Here, sure, I'm here for you.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
I grew up. I'm sixty five. I grew up in
pretty strict setting as a youngster growing up, and was
baptized when I was about nine years old, and as
a teenager I walked away from it, joined the world,
(22:15):
so to speak, and had an experience when I was
twelve thirteen that was a life changer on the negative
side of things, and that experience led them to problems
through life. I became eventually after in that proverbial desert
(22:42):
for about forty forty five years, if you know what
I mean. Sure, and it's been kind of kind of
a slow morphosis getting back to the straight and narrow.
So my question is this ever too late?
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Do you think not if you could ask that question. Okay,
it's it's one of those things, Roger that essentially it's
it's about while you're here on Earth, that's your opportunity.
If you reject it. While you're here on Earth, it's
basically telling God that you don't want to be with
(23:24):
him for eighty ninety one hundred years, measly little years
on Earth. Then God won't force you to be with
him for eternity. So the Father says those things and says, essentially,
you don't want to be with me now while you're
here on Earth, I'm not going to force you to
(23:44):
do it for eternity. There's a place where I am not.
They call it Hell, and it has all these these
visions of flames and things like that. But really what
it is about is so much even for the non believer,
the atheists, whatever. On Earth, you're still reaping the benefits
of God being sovereign over the planet. But when you
(24:06):
imagine this place where God is not, then there is
nothing that satiates. Ever, there is nothing that will quench
your thirst. Nothing that's the intensity of Hell is really
the absence of God. So as long as you can
ask those questions, Roger. As long as you are searching
and you're trying to come to a conclusion, and most importantly,
(24:27):
you come to a conclusion prior to death, then you're fine.
If you imagine it this way, Roger, there's you have
illness A, and there is an antidote to illness A.
As long as you're still alive. Whenever you come across
it and take it, you're fine. But if you die
(24:51):
not taking it, it can't do anything, can't help you
at that point. And likewise, if you die in a
state of rejecting God, then you've basically rejected the antidote.
So the fact that you're still alive and asking these questions,
you're in a good place.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
All right. Appreciate those words.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
You're very, very welcome as long as you are on
And everyone goes through different paths, Roger. And there are
Christians that struggle, and Christians aren't perfect by any stretch.
As a matter of fact, a lot of their sins
are more glaring and more obvious because of that struggle.
(25:33):
Paul said it this way. Paul said, the spirit is willing,
but the flesh is weak, and so that is incredibly true.
There will always be a battle between your sin nature
and your desire to serve God and to seek and
to know God. That will be forever. That'll be forever
on this earth. You will be battling that that will
only come into balance in heaven. But regardless of what
(25:59):
you've done in the past, God always wants you to
move forward. The powerful thing is to think of my
death on the cross two thousand years ago. When you
think I died on the cross, the last words one
of the seven of the things that I said on
the cross, the last of them was to tell us die.
(26:21):
And there was many arguments and still are sometimes as
to what that specifically means and what the root word was.
And and it's in some scriptures. It's some scripture it's
it's translated as it is finished. Some it's it is done,
and some think that it might even be a merchant's
term for paid in full. So really they all mean
(26:45):
the same thing. But it's done. So what I didn't say, Roger,
I didn't say on the cross, Well, this covers this sin,
but only the ones current or it this is for
all the sins. So the payment's been made. Your acceptance
of that payment is what part you play in it.
(27:07):
To accept that payment, accept the process, the will of God.
That's what becomes important. That's where you come in. So
that was God looking forward, And as I was on
that cross, I was looking at every sin you will
ever do while you're alive. So of course they're forgiven.
(27:30):
Anything that you've done up until this point, and anything
you will do up until the point of death will
be forgiven. The reconciliation heaven, relationship with God, those types
of things comes through the acceptance of Me and who
I am in your life, and who the Father is,
and the Holy Spirit and the way you live in
(27:53):
conjunction with that from now moving forward. So don't beat
yourself up about the past, look towards the future with
God in that place of peace and understanding that that
peace that actually surpasses understanding, and move forward with your
eyes on God. K f I A M six forty
(28:16):
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