February 15, 2026 • 27 mins
Should a Woman Submit to a Man
Evil & Temptation
The Angry Vengeful God
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to KFI on demand, Lewis, welcome to the
Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
So, I just would like to hear you talk about,
you know, fathers or to be the leaders of the family,
the nuclear family, the household, and also how that applies
to the larger family, the church, and if you could
talk a little bit about the scripture second first timoth
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to eleven, where it talks about women learning in silence.
Many people try to say that this only applied to
the church in that time. I mean, I've looked up
that they and they say that, well, it's ridiculous that
a woman should be absolutely silent in the church. And
if you look up in your concordance the worst silence
that they use in the Hebrew or the Greek and
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your concordance, the worst silence there doesn't mean absolute silence.
That you could talk about that subject, I'd appreciate it.
I can't stay on the phone, but I like to
hear what you have to say about it.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
That's fine, that's fine, I appreciate it. This question, obviously,
is one that has been argued for many, many years
and will continue to be argued because it's not as
clear cut as people would like. And there are some
things that people in general, both men and women, don't
want to jump over, or no one likes to be
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pigeonholed or anything like that. But there are differences. There
just are. The confusion comes in the placement of equality.
The assumption is equality means you're exactly the same. No,
not true. Means that you have the same value, but
it doesn't mean that you're exactly the same. And once
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people get over the concept of being that equality means
being exactly the same. No one wants to be exactly
the same. No one should be exactly the same. That's
the first hurdle. A second hurdle is position. Is that
it's hard for people to stand the difference of position
versus person. In the United States, the position of the
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president is higher above any other position. But the president
himself is a human being, is not more of value
or more equal than someone else. It's about position, value
of position, purpose of position, and so on, but doesn't
speak to the value of the individual. It speaks to
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the value of the position. As far as one Timothy
two eleven, let a woman learn quietly, with all submissiveness,
I do not permit a woman to teach or to
exercise authority over a man. Rather, she is to remain quiet.
There are those that argue that some of this is
placement of time and things that went on during the
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early Church. Some say that there were young new Christian
women that were sitting in the church by themselves and
would often be asking questions and causing disruptions, and really
that they were saying, hey, listen, this is something that
you deal with with your husband and your home and
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not in this context. There's all kinds of hypotheticals this
is why, and this is why, and this is why.
But let's just say it is what it is, specifically
what it is. That doesn't mean that a woman is
less than a man at all. Ever, there are women
of great power and information and teaching in scripture hands down,
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and you can't walk away from that. You can't belittle
that or make excuses for it or any of those things,
Miriam Deborah. You can't just you know, whisk them away
and say that they didn't have value or they weren't purposeful,
or make excuses. So it's not about the value of
a woman being less than a man. But there are
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certain context in which God sees that a man should
be in a particular position and a woman should be
in a particular position. Men do not give birth, nor
will they. That is one of those things that will
never be equal between a man and a woman. But
it doesn't lessen the value of a man. And really
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the purpose of all this for God was to show
people to work together, to find ways to understand their
strengths and weaknesses so that they could build bonds and
relationships working together. And what has happened is people use
these as an excuse to not bond, to not have relationships,
or to feel less. Then if you feel less than
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because of a position, you're gonna have a problem having
a job. You're going to have a lot more problems
than what you have with scripture. And there are you know,
male pastors that want to run from these things and
not want to talk about them or deal with them
in their wholeness. People are always trying to find ways
to excuse my words in scripture or the words of
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the Father or the words of the disciples. Same with profits,
same with all of it. And thank you, but no
thank you. The problem doesn't lie with scripture. The problem lies, yes,
with interpretation and understanding of it in context, but also
in where you stand on this. It's not about separating
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men and women. It's about understanding that there are going
to be places in positions in life, and that in humility,
when you take on those positions, you respect them for
what they are and it doesn't, you know, minimalize you
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you if you were not the boss. And even in
most companies there's always a boss above you. You are
in a submissive position. That doesn't make you less than them.
It brings order and structure to the company or business.
You do this in everything. That's the purpose of it.
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It's not just age, and it's not just sex. And
to understand that, or to understand that there is that
God sees a pattern in thing or creates a pattern
for order, doesn't belittle There's many things that women do
and the whole the woman should submit to the man.
Well read on where it says and the man should
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submit to the woman. There is balance in this, and
it is with great purpose, and people will be debating
it forever whether there should be. I've seen many churches
with female pastors and this can be just a state
of rebellion and people saying, wow that you know the
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Bible didn't understand this or doesn't it And if you
get to that point, then you can just do whatever
you want. Get to the point where you just say, well,
this was misunderstood. What have you understanding it? In context?
Absolutely important, But if something is so clear cut that
it seems prescriptive, you have to ask why and what
the purpose was, and the human purpose and the reason
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why people feel this thing is because every person that
claims to want to make people equal really is talking
about why they feel superior to other people. It's not
about equality. You see activists, so called activists, really a
lot of times they are putting themselves up on a
pedestal for a reason. And there are those that are
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you know, and I'm not talking that there are needs
to to fight for the underdog, absolutely, but you know
the difference, you know, the difference of the professional activist
versus somebody who's really trying to help someone else. Equality
is equality that never changes in scripts. Sure, man and
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woman one hundred percent equal in the eyes of God,
but that doesn't mean positions aren't different. I say over
and over in scripture, I am one hundred percent God,
the Holy Spirit, one hundred percent God the Father, one
hundred percent God. Christians worship the Triune God. All of
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us different in position and purpose depending on where we
are and what we're doing, but one hundred percent equal,
and you don't see us squabbling. Jeanie, welcome to the
Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Oh, thank you.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
How can I help you?
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Yes, Hi.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
We ked a question, and the question was kind of
a true part question. First parting is there a difference
between evil and sin? And then the other part of
the question is as a Catholic.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
I was born great to believe that people were born
with the stain of original sin, but they're born good,
with the tendency to do good or bad. And the
debate I'm having with my partner here is that people
are born sinful, period, They're just bad.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Yes, so you're born in a state of sin, not
because you've done something necessarily, but because it is in
the blood of human beings passed down through Adam and
Eve generation of generation. That sin is in the blood
you will sin is. Scripture says all have sinned and
fallen short of the glory of God.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
All.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
There's not one that is apart from sin except for me.
That's it. On all of mankind, So you will sin. Now,
as far as the difference between evil and sin, sin
is like the application of evil. I think of it
this way. There's a difference between knowledge and wisdom. Knowledge
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is just facts and things, whereas wisdom is the proper
application of knowledge and facts and things in your life
due to experience and understanding. So sin is missing the mark.
The actual translation means to miss the mark. Sin is
a religious word that you kind of use now, but
it means missing the mark. So that means there's a
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mark for you by God. That's the will of God.
That's the pattern of truth, justice, nobility, kindness, love, all
of those good things, courage, everything good is on that line.
When you step outside of that line is when you
step into evil. Evil is that which rejects the will
of God, anything that rejects the will of God. So
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when you partake in rejecting in the will of God,
that's sinning, which is partaking and evil. But evil's not
a thing. It's not something. It's not something you taste
or touch or step in it is. It's not a thing.
People will question and say, well, if evil's a thing,
God created all things. Therefore God created evil. Evil's not
a thing. Evil is, it's a it's a relationship between
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morally neutral things. For instance, if if you take alcohol
and you put it in the radiator, uh, it keeps
the you know, things from freezing over. That's a good relationship.
You take the alcohol, you put it in the driver,
and you put the driver behind the wheel and they drive.
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That's a bad relationship. Same things. You can put the
good bullet made out of good metal in the good gun,
and if you pointed it to your good head, there'd
be a problem. There's a bad relationship there. Therefore evil
comes in. However, you could use that gun in the
hand of law enforcement or military to protect and to serve.
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So it's the it's the application of things in life
that become evil based on how they're used and the
relationship sin partakes in evil. Sin is evil, but it
is not the only part of evil. There's temptation. There's
all kinds of things. There can be evil temptation even
though you don't give into it in sin. But they
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certainly play a part hand in hand with one another,
and how they are applied to your life, how you
experience them. But evil is all around in the form
of temptation and the enemy's desire to get you to sin,
to do those things that are outside of the will
and the nature of God, that are outside of the
purpose and the focus of God, that are outside of
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that path that God has created for you. When you
embark on those areas, then absolutely you are embarking on sin,
which is evil. Dennis, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 6 (12:54):
Yes, good morning, money is Dennis.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Hi, Dennis, how can I help?
Speaker 6 (12:58):
I appreciate this service. I really believe in their Lord
Jesus always taught us how to love, you know, the beatitudes,
the durable of the Good Samaritan forgives seven times seventy.
I just read Revelation, and I've read it before, but
for some reason, certainly, how shocked it was. How angry
and dangerous ngeful God is.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
He even says he's vengeful, even says he's jealous.
Speaker 6 (13:23):
I mean, just the torture of people. They were wishing
they were dead with the plagues, and they kept alive. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
A lot of people say the same thing about the
Old Testament as well, certainly that they.
Speaker 6 (13:33):
Is God love or not? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
I mean God is not only love and that's where
people get God is one hundred percent holy and righteous
as well, and people get them the two confused that
they're that they're somehow diametrically opposed. It's about positioning as
well when it comes to God. God is holy and
righteous and is love and is all just. So there
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are things that God does that you couldn't do, Like
God can be jealous, and it's okay because God is
righteous and his jealousy, there is nothing for you to
be jealous of God. It's righteous for him to be jealous.
There is nothing for you to be judgmental over because
you have your own faults. That's why it points that
out in scripture all the time. However, God can be
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judgmental because God is perfect, God is holy, and yes,
God is all loving. But whereas a human might get
skewed by their love like that, if you have allegiance
to someone, if you have devotion to someone like a
football team or a race, your race, or your political affiliations,
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if you have devotion to those things, you'll be skewed
and your decision making. Well, God's love is pure, so
you may say you're doing something out of love, but
really there's hidden motives. If you don't punish your children
and you say that you're not punishing them under love,
that's really not helping. It's hindering. But God's perfect love
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means that his justice will be perfect as well, but
it doesn't mean humans will always understand it or appreciate it. Floyd,
Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Hello, Good morning Jesus.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Hi Floyd, what's going on?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Hi, I've been going through a crisis of faith over
the last two or three years. And three years ago,
I was diagnosed with kidney cancer in my right kidney
and I had surgery to remove it, and shortly after that,
I left kidney Field and I've been on kidney dialysis
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for a year and a half.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
How many times do you go? Is this every day?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
No, it's three times a week.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
You three times a week for three hours or so?
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Yeah, and a half hours. But I've been having a
lot of other health problems too, and I'm in a
lot of pain, and I'm overweight, and i have severe arthritis.
I'm very obese, and I struggled with smoking most of
my life. And I've been praying so much to God
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over the last several years. I've listened to your program
for several years itself and finally get the courage to
call in. And I don't know. I'm on a lot
of medications too, and I sort of feel like my
brain isn't functioning all that well. I'm flowly losing my
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cognitive ability and my ability to think clearly, and I
enter into a lot of depressive despair a lot. And
I've only gone to church very rarely over the last
couple of years, and I'm physically it's difficult for me
to get out of my apartment a lot, and I'm
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I sometimes I feel like I've lost my faith in God,
and I don't know whether I've deserted him or He's
deserted me. I'm in a lot of emotional distress about it.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Well, the truth of the matter, Floyd, is when when
you're standing next to a building and it's in front
of you, and you close your eyes and you open
them and the building's gone, it's most likely you've turned
away from the building. Then the building's gone.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Right, Yeah, I tried to recognize that.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Okay, so the likelihood of God rejecting you is slim
to none.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
I want to believe that, I really do I struggle.
I want so much to believe in God right now,
but I sort of feel like the way my brain
is working right now, I feel like I've lost all
connection with Him.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
And that may be true. So let's find out how
to ignite that connection. Out of the things that you
describe that you're going through, some of which are out
of your control. Certainly kidney cancer is one of them,
but smoking and obesity is in your control. I know
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that you're struggling with a lot of things, So we
need to turn that struggling into something that's very actionable
in a way of making change, because you know that
affects the way you think and how you feel as well,
and your mobility and your connectivity to other people and
life in general. And then that puts you in a spiral.
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Plus as much as you're going to be on blood
pressure medicine and things like that for kidney problems, you
compound the issue by being obese. So why do you
think and is this something that have you been obese
for you know, since you were a kid, or is
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there a particular time where you feel now this is
where it.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Kicked in or most of my life since my teenage years,
I lost weight a few times, but after I was
like on weight watchers several times, I lost it a
lot and I got down to a good weight. But
with crises and emotional problems and relationship problems and various
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health problems over my life, I guess I've just indulged
myself in poor diet and surely you know, and it's
very easy to do. It's a coping mechanism, but it's
a very bad one.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
And yeah, it's quite destructive. I mean, don't don't misunderstand.
Everybody has their own coping mechanisms that they lean on,
and whether it be sex, drugs, rock and roll, or
you know, a McRib sandwich, it is everyone leans on
different things. And the hope is to learn and to
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teach you you spiritually and physically, to lean on God
at times of pain rather than these other coping mechanisms.
So it's not about picking on you. I just want
as a way of seeing hope understanding that there are
things that you can change that you can be a
part of. But as you continue, for you, eating is
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a sin to the form of gluttony, and so like
an alcoholic, there's not there is there's similarities, but The
biggest problem is an alcoholic can say okay, don't eat
or don't drink rather, but a human can't say don't eat.
So an alcoholic can say, okay, no more alcohol for me,
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and it's done.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Now.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
There still struggles with that, but at least there's a
line where you can say, don't have alcohol in the house.
You can't very well not have food in the house
or not eat, because that's equally as damaging. So finding
that place of moderation is much more difficult than other
addictions or concerns because you can't very well just not
have stuff in your house. However, there are certain types
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of foods that you can ban from your life and
things that are tied to studies dealing with brain issues
as well. As you know, obviously this show is not
about medicine or those things. It's about truth and about
scripture in those things. But there are studies that tie
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fried foods and things like that to dementia and memory
loss and things like that that you mention that your
brain function has been a little weird. That can be meds,
that can be other things as well. My concern is
getting you right with God, and if you continue down
paths of rebellion, which overeating is. It just pulls you
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away from God. And you know what we're you know,
you talked about way watchers. People always say all those
things don't work. Yet they work if you work them,
you know, if you apply them to your life, of
course they work, just as overeating works to make you heavier.
So my first goal for you would would be to
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take the things that you can control and control them,
and in doing so, you're when you owe somebody money. Yeah,
you've ever been in that situation where it's a friend,
They either they owe you or you owe them, and
it gets past a certain time, and maybe it's innocent,
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maybe you just forgot and now you don't have it
this moment, but it gets to a point where where
you stop talking to each other and you don't call,
and you don't and every time you see them that
feels awkward. So you start to avoid them because it's
just gotten too long and now it's weird. People do
the same thing when it comes to their own sins.
They you start to hide from God because of the
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things you know that you're doing wrong or the things
that you know are causing a division between you and God.
And the relationship therein and the smoking. You know, drinking
can fall into that category. Over eating certainly can fall
into that category. And you start to hide not only
from other humans because you know they're going to mock you,
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and you already know that what you're doing is not okay,
and you do it towards God too, and you hide
towards God. And God hasn't moved. But you're not going
to allow God into your life, Floyd, until until you
find that that place where you're kind of taking these things,
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these burdens off of your own your own body, and
then you're going to slowly start seeing God again. But
God hasn't moved. It's about you seeing Him and hiding
from Him when you're in this place of kind of
self destruction with the smoking and the overeating. And so
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I would really like you to start there, and hopefully
we will talk again, but briefly, i'd like to talk
about that, you know, after talking to Lloyd, the concept
of the things you can change in things you can't change,
you know, just take a time. We only get a
little bit of time to talk to each other on
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the program, and hopefully Lloyd will take those thoughts to
heart and think of ways for him to produce better
results in life those ways, and that part does play
some role in connecting with God. A lot of those
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things can be shame based when it comes to overeating
and things like that. But it's a struggle that many
people deal with. I mean a good number of people
deal with it one form or anothercluding my producer Neil,
who struggles with white. And one of the things that
he and I talk about constantly is managing things by
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being aware of them. And sometimes it's about turning your
brain on to those issues and being aware of them
in a way that you you can see them. For him,
you know, go figure, there's an app for that for him.
He has an app on his iPhone and he just
makes sure he knows what he's eating. That's all as
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simple as that. Every calorie is logged, not for some
sort of strange anal retentiveness, but so he's accountable, just
like a bank account accountable for calories in, calories out,
and the use of calories in his body. That's it,
and when he adheres to it, it's a piece of cake.
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But you better believe that when you break patterns and
start to go well, I want to do what I
want to do, or it's a rough time or going
through difficulties, I'm just going to eat what I want. Yeah,
you will. That state of rebellion will put you in
a place of not caring or registering. It's the same
with your money. That if you treated money like you
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treat your calories or other physical things, whether it's smoking
or drinking or anything like that, you'd be you know, broke,
fat and drunk all the time. It's a matter of
knowing those things and it's not going to happen overnight,
and it is a struggle and there's always work involved,
especially if you've let it go too far. You know,
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if your credit's bad, or you drink too much, or
you're overweight, any of these things in their excessive state
are going to be difficult and you're going to look
at it and go, oh my gosh, this is too much.
But it's not a little at a time. That's how
you gain the way, that's how you lost the money.
That's how you became an alcoholic. And you in reverse
do the same process to weed these things out of
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your life, and you'll be surprised how you allow God
into your life more once you've done that. Thank you
so much for taking the time to join me today,
and remember, more importantly, in all this craziness, I am
with you always. KFI AM six forty on demand
You're listening to KFI on demand, Lewis, welcome to the
Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
So, I just would like to hear you talk about,
you know, fathers or to be the leaders of the family,
the nuclear family, the household, and also how that applies
to the larger family, the church, and if you could
talk a little bit about the scripture second first timoth
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to eleven, where it talks about women learning in silence.
Many people try to say that this only applied to
the church in that time. I mean, I've looked up
that they and they say that, well, it's ridiculous that
a woman should be absolutely silent in the church. And
if you look up in your concordance the worst silence
that they use in the Hebrew or the Greek and
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your concordance, the worst silence there doesn't mean absolute silence.
That you could talk about that subject, I'd appreciate it.
I can't stay on the phone, but I like to
hear what you have to say about it.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
That's fine, that's fine, I appreciate it. This question, obviously,
is one that has been argued for many, many years
and will continue to be argued because it's not as
clear cut as people would like. And there are some
things that people in general, both men and women, don't
want to jump over, or no one likes to be
(01:24):
pigeonholed or anything like that. But there are differences. There
just are. The confusion comes in the placement of equality.
The assumption is equality means you're exactly the same. No,
not true. Means that you have the same value, but
it doesn't mean that you're exactly the same. And once
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people get over the concept of being that equality means
being exactly the same. No one wants to be exactly
the same. No one should be exactly the same. That's
the first hurdle. A second hurdle is position. Is that
it's hard for people to stand the difference of position
versus person. In the United States, the position of the
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president is higher above any other position. But the president
himself is a human being, is not more of value
or more equal than someone else. It's about position, value
of position, purpose of position, and so on, but doesn't
speak to the value of the individual. It speaks to
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the value of the position. As far as one Timothy
two eleven, let a woman learn quietly, with all submissiveness,
I do not permit a woman to teach or to
exercise authority over a man. Rather, she is to remain quiet.
There are those that argue that some of this is
placement of time and things that went on during the
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early Church. Some say that there were young new Christian
women that were sitting in the church by themselves and
would often be asking questions and causing disruptions, and really
that they were saying, hey, listen, this is something that
you deal with with your husband and your home and
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not in this context. There's all kinds of hypotheticals this
is why, and this is why, and this is why.
But let's just say it is what it is, specifically
what it is. That doesn't mean that a woman is
less than a man at all. Ever, there are women
of great power and information and teaching in scripture hands down,
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and you can't walk away from that. You can't belittle
that or make excuses for it or any of those things,
Miriam Deborah. You can't just you know, whisk them away
and say that they didn't have value or they weren't purposeful,
or make excuses. So it's not about the value of
a woman being less than a man. But there are
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certain context in which God sees that a man should
be in a particular position and a woman should be
in a particular position. Men do not give birth, nor
will they. That is one of those things that will
never be equal between a man and a woman. But
it doesn't lessen the value of a man. And really
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the purpose of all this for God was to show
people to work together, to find ways to understand their
strengths and weaknesses so that they could build bonds and
relationships working together. And what has happened is people use
these as an excuse to not bond, to not have relationships,
or to feel less. Then if you feel less than
(04:39):
because of a position, you're gonna have a problem having
a job. You're going to have a lot more problems
than what you have with scripture. And there are you know,
male pastors that want to run from these things and
not want to talk about them or deal with them
in their wholeness. People are always trying to find ways
to excuse my words in scripture or the words of
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the Father or the words of the disciples. Same with profits,
same with all of it. And thank you, but no
thank you. The problem doesn't lie with scripture. The problem lies, yes,
with interpretation and understanding of it in context, but also
in where you stand on this. It's not about separating
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men and women. It's about understanding that there are going
to be places in positions in life, and that in humility,
when you take on those positions, you respect them for
what they are and it doesn't, you know, minimalize you
(05:45):
you if you were not the boss. And even in
most companies there's always a boss above you. You are
in a submissive position. That doesn't make you less than them.
It brings order and structure to the company or business.
You do this in everything. That's the purpose of it.
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It's not just age, and it's not just sex. And
to understand that, or to understand that there is that
God sees a pattern in thing or creates a pattern
for order, doesn't belittle There's many things that women do
and the whole the woman should submit to the man.
Well read on where it says and the man should
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submit to the woman. There is balance in this, and
it is with great purpose, and people will be debating
it forever whether there should be. I've seen many churches
with female pastors and this can be just a state
of rebellion and people saying, wow that you know the
(06:55):
Bible didn't understand this or doesn't it And if you
get to that point, then you can just do whatever
you want. Get to the point where you just say, well,
this was misunderstood. What have you understanding it? In context?
Absolutely important, But if something is so clear cut that
it seems prescriptive, you have to ask why and what
the purpose was, and the human purpose and the reason
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why people feel this thing is because every person that
claims to want to make people equal really is talking
about why they feel superior to other people. It's not
about equality. You see activists, so called activists, really a
lot of times they are putting themselves up on a
pedestal for a reason. And there are those that are
(07:40):
you know, and I'm not talking that there are needs
to to fight for the underdog, absolutely, but you know
the difference, you know, the difference of the professional activist
versus somebody who's really trying to help someone else. Equality
is equality that never changes in scripts. Sure, man and
(08:02):
woman one hundred percent equal in the eyes of God,
but that doesn't mean positions aren't different. I say over
and over in scripture, I am one hundred percent God,
the Holy Spirit, one hundred percent God the Father, one
hundred percent God. Christians worship the Triune God. All of
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us different in position and purpose depending on where we
are and what we're doing, but one hundred percent equal,
and you don't see us squabbling. Jeanie, welcome to the
Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Oh, thank you.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
How can I help you?
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Yes, Hi.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
We ked a question, and the question was kind of
a true part question. First parting is there a difference
between evil and sin? And then the other part of
the question is as a Catholic.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
I was born great to believe that people were born
with the stain of original sin, but they're born good,
with the tendency to do good or bad. And the
debate I'm having with my partner here is that people
are born sinful, period, They're just bad.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Yes, so you're born in a state of sin, not
because you've done something necessarily, but because it is in
the blood of human beings passed down through Adam and
Eve generation of generation. That sin is in the blood
you will sin is. Scripture says all have sinned and
fallen short of the glory of God.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
All.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
There's not one that is apart from sin except for me.
That's it. On all of mankind, So you will sin. Now,
as far as the difference between evil and sin, sin
is like the application of evil. I think of it
this way. There's a difference between knowledge and wisdom. Knowledge
(09:54):
is just facts and things, whereas wisdom is the proper
application of knowledge and facts and things in your life
due to experience and understanding. So sin is missing the mark.
The actual translation means to miss the mark. Sin is
a religious word that you kind of use now, but
it means missing the mark. So that means there's a
(10:17):
mark for you by God. That's the will of God.
That's the pattern of truth, justice, nobility, kindness, love, all
of those good things, courage, everything good is on that line.
When you step outside of that line is when you
step into evil. Evil is that which rejects the will
of God, anything that rejects the will of God. So
(10:39):
when you partake in rejecting in the will of God,
that's sinning, which is partaking and evil. But evil's not
a thing. It's not something. It's not something you taste
or touch or step in it is. It's not a thing.
People will question and say, well, if evil's a thing,
God created all things. Therefore God created evil. Evil's not
a thing. Evil is, it's a it's a relationship between
(11:05):
morally neutral things. For instance, if if you take alcohol
and you put it in the radiator, uh, it keeps
the you know, things from freezing over. That's a good relationship.
You take the alcohol, you put it in the driver,
and you put the driver behind the wheel and they drive.
(11:26):
That's a bad relationship. Same things. You can put the
good bullet made out of good metal in the good gun,
and if you pointed it to your good head, there'd
be a problem. There's a bad relationship there. Therefore evil
comes in. However, you could use that gun in the
hand of law enforcement or military to protect and to serve.
(11:52):
So it's the it's the application of things in life
that become evil based on how they're used and the
relationship sin partakes in evil. Sin is evil, but it
is not the only part of evil. There's temptation. There's
all kinds of things. There can be evil temptation even
though you don't give into it in sin. But they
(12:15):
certainly play a part hand in hand with one another,
and how they are applied to your life, how you
experience them. But evil is all around in the form
of temptation and the enemy's desire to get you to sin,
to do those things that are outside of the will
and the nature of God, that are outside of the
purpose and the focus of God, that are outside of
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that path that God has created for you. When you
embark on those areas, then absolutely you are embarking on sin,
which is evil. Dennis, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 6 (12:54):
Yes, good morning, money is Dennis.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Hi, Dennis, how can I help?
Speaker 6 (12:58):
I appreciate this service. I really believe in their Lord
Jesus always taught us how to love, you know, the beatitudes,
the durable of the Good Samaritan forgives seven times seventy.
I just read Revelation, and I've read it before, but
for some reason, certainly, how shocked it was. How angry
and dangerous ngeful God is.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
He even says he's vengeful, even says he's jealous.
Speaker 6 (13:23):
I mean, just the torture of people. They were wishing
they were dead with the plagues, and they kept alive. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
A lot of people say the same thing about the
Old Testament as well, certainly that they.
Speaker 6 (13:33):
Is God love or not? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
I mean God is not only love and that's where
people get God is one hundred percent holy and righteous
as well, and people get them the two confused that
they're that they're somehow diametrically opposed. It's about positioning as
well when it comes to God. God is holy and
righteous and is love and is all just. So there
(13:57):
are things that God does that you couldn't do, Like
God can be jealous, and it's okay because God is
righteous and his jealousy, there is nothing for you to
be jealous of God. It's righteous for him to be jealous.
There is nothing for you to be judgmental over because
you have your own faults. That's why it points that
out in scripture all the time. However, God can be
(14:19):
judgmental because God is perfect, God is holy, and yes,
God is all loving. But whereas a human might get
skewed by their love like that, if you have allegiance
to someone, if you have devotion to someone like a
football team or a race, your race, or your political affiliations,
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if you have devotion to those things, you'll be skewed
and your decision making. Well, God's love is pure, so
you may say you're doing something out of love, but
really there's hidden motives. If you don't punish your children
and you say that you're not punishing them under love,
that's really not helping. It's hindering. But God's perfect love
(15:01):
means that his justice will be perfect as well, but
it doesn't mean humans will always understand it or appreciate it. Floyd,
Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Hello, Good morning Jesus.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Hi Floyd, what's going on?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Hi, I've been going through a crisis of faith over
the last two or three years. And three years ago,
I was diagnosed with kidney cancer in my right kidney
and I had surgery to remove it, and shortly after that,
I left kidney Field and I've been on kidney dialysis
(15:42):
for a year and a half.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
How many times do you go? Is this every day?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
No, it's three times a week.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
You three times a week for three hours or so?
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Yeah, and a half hours. But I've been having a
lot of other health problems too, and I'm in a
lot of pain, and I'm overweight, and i have severe arthritis.
I'm very obese, and I struggled with smoking most of
my life. And I've been praying so much to God
(16:16):
over the last several years. I've listened to your program
for several years itself and finally get the courage to
call in. And I don't know. I'm on a lot
of medications too, and I sort of feel like my
brain isn't functioning all that well. I'm flowly losing my
(16:37):
cognitive ability and my ability to think clearly, and I
enter into a lot of depressive despair a lot. And
I've only gone to church very rarely over the last
couple of years, and I'm physically it's difficult for me
to get out of my apartment a lot, and I'm
(17:03):
I sometimes I feel like I've lost my faith in God,
and I don't know whether I've deserted him or He's
deserted me. I'm in a lot of emotional distress about it.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Well, the truth of the matter, Floyd, is when when
you're standing next to a building and it's in front
of you, and you close your eyes and you open
them and the building's gone, it's most likely you've turned
away from the building. Then the building's gone.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Right, Yeah, I tried to recognize that.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Okay, so the likelihood of God rejecting you is slim
to none.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
I want to believe that, I really do I struggle.
I want so much to believe in God right now,
but I sort of feel like the way my brain
is working right now, I feel like I've lost all
connection with Him.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
And that may be true. So let's find out how
to ignite that connection. Out of the things that you
describe that you're going through, some of which are out
of your control. Certainly kidney cancer is one of them,
but smoking and obesity is in your control. I know
(18:24):
that you're struggling with a lot of things, So we
need to turn that struggling into something that's very actionable
in a way of making change, because you know that
affects the way you think and how you feel as well,
and your mobility and your connectivity to other people and
life in general. And then that puts you in a spiral.
(18:48):
Plus as much as you're going to be on blood
pressure medicine and things like that for kidney problems, you
compound the issue by being obese. So why do you
think and is this something that have you been obese
for you know, since you were a kid, or is
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there a particular time where you feel now this is
where it.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Kicked in or most of my life since my teenage years,
I lost weight a few times, but after I was
like on weight watchers several times, I lost it a
lot and I got down to a good weight. But
with crises and emotional problems and relationship problems and various
(19:34):
health problems over my life, I guess I've just indulged
myself in poor diet and surely you know, and it's
very easy to do. It's a coping mechanism, but it's
a very bad one.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
And yeah, it's quite destructive. I mean, don't don't misunderstand.
Everybody has their own coping mechanisms that they lean on,
and whether it be sex, drugs, rock and roll, or
you know, a McRib sandwich, it is everyone leans on
different things. And the hope is to learn and to
(20:09):
teach you you spiritually and physically, to lean on God
at times of pain rather than these other coping mechanisms.
So it's not about picking on you. I just want
as a way of seeing hope understanding that there are
things that you can change that you can be a
part of. But as you continue, for you, eating is
(20:30):
a sin to the form of gluttony, and so like
an alcoholic, there's not there is there's similarities, but The
biggest problem is an alcoholic can say okay, don't eat
or don't drink rather, but a human can't say don't eat.
So an alcoholic can say, okay, no more alcohol for me,
(20:51):
and it's done.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Now.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
There still struggles with that, but at least there's a
line where you can say, don't have alcohol in the house.
You can't very well not have food in the house
or not eat, because that's equally as damaging. So finding
that place of moderation is much more difficult than other
addictions or concerns because you can't very well just not
have stuff in your house. However, there are certain types
(21:15):
of foods that you can ban from your life and
things that are tied to studies dealing with brain issues
as well. As you know, obviously this show is not
about medicine or those things. It's about truth and about
scripture in those things. But there are studies that tie
(21:35):
fried foods and things like that to dementia and memory
loss and things like that that you mention that your
brain function has been a little weird. That can be meds,
that can be other things as well. My concern is
getting you right with God, and if you continue down
paths of rebellion, which overeating is. It just pulls you
(21:56):
away from God. And you know what we're you know,
you talked about way watchers. People always say all those
things don't work. Yet they work if you work them,
you know, if you apply them to your life, of
course they work, just as overeating works to make you heavier.
So my first goal for you would would be to
(22:19):
take the things that you can control and control them,
and in doing so, you're when you owe somebody money. Yeah,
you've ever been in that situation where it's a friend,
They either they owe you or you owe them, and
it gets past a certain time, and maybe it's innocent,
(22:40):
maybe you just forgot and now you don't have it
this moment, but it gets to a point where where
you stop talking to each other and you don't call,
and you don't and every time you see them that
feels awkward. So you start to avoid them because it's
just gotten too long and now it's weird. People do
the same thing when it comes to their own sins.
They you start to hide from God because of the
(23:02):
things you know that you're doing wrong or the things
that you know are causing a division between you and God.
And the relationship therein and the smoking. You know, drinking
can fall into that category. Over eating certainly can fall
into that category. And you start to hide not only
from other humans because you know they're going to mock you,
(23:24):
and you already know that what you're doing is not okay,
and you do it towards God too, and you hide
towards God. And God hasn't moved. But you're not going
to allow God into your life, Floyd, until until you
find that that place where you're kind of taking these things,
(23:45):
these burdens off of your own your own body, and
then you're going to slowly start seeing God again. But
God hasn't moved. It's about you seeing Him and hiding
from Him when you're in this place of kind of
self destruction with the smoking and the overeating. And so
(24:05):
I would really like you to start there, and hopefully
we will talk again, but briefly, i'd like to talk
about that, you know, after talking to Lloyd, the concept
of the things you can change in things you can't change,
you know, just take a time. We only get a
little bit of time to talk to each other on
(24:25):
the program, and hopefully Lloyd will take those thoughts to
heart and think of ways for him to produce better
results in life those ways, and that part does play
some role in connecting with God. A lot of those
(24:47):
things can be shame based when it comes to overeating
and things like that. But it's a struggle that many
people deal with. I mean a good number of people
deal with it one form or anothercluding my producer Neil,
who struggles with white. And one of the things that
he and I talk about constantly is managing things by
(25:10):
being aware of them. And sometimes it's about turning your
brain on to those issues and being aware of them
in a way that you you can see them. For him,
you know, go figure, there's an app for that for him.
He has an app on his iPhone and he just
makes sure he knows what he's eating. That's all as
(25:33):
simple as that. Every calorie is logged, not for some
sort of strange anal retentiveness, but so he's accountable, just
like a bank account accountable for calories in, calories out,
and the use of calories in his body. That's it,
and when he adheres to it, it's a piece of cake.
(26:00):
But you better believe that when you break patterns and
start to go well, I want to do what I
want to do, or it's a rough time or going
through difficulties, I'm just going to eat what I want. Yeah,
you will. That state of rebellion will put you in
a place of not caring or registering. It's the same
with your money. That if you treated money like you
(26:23):
treat your calories or other physical things, whether it's smoking
or drinking or anything like that, you'd be you know, broke,
fat and drunk all the time. It's a matter of
knowing those things and it's not going to happen overnight,
and it is a struggle and there's always work involved,
especially if you've let it go too far. You know,
(26:45):
if your credit's bad, or you drink too much, or
you're overweight, any of these things in their excessive state
are going to be difficult and you're going to look
at it and go, oh my gosh, this is too much.
But it's not a little at a time. That's how
you gain the way, that's how you lost the money.
That's how you became an alcoholic. And you in reverse
do the same process to weed these things out of
(27:07):
your life, and you'll be surprised how you allow God
into your life more once you've done that. Thank you
so much for taking the time to join me today,
and remember, more importantly, in all this craziness, I am
with you always. KFI AM six forty on demand
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