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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to KFI six on demand. Elena, Welcome to
the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Oh thank you for taking my call. I'm calling because
last night I was having a conversation with my sister
and it was with respect to her uneasiness at a
church that she recently went to. It's a Methodist church.
She's always been a very faithful follower of Jesus Christ,
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and she loves the Lord. She has four beautiful boys.
And I was a bit shocked last night because I
find that she's looking for a reason not to go
to church. And last night, when she asked me about
this uneasy feeling that she had about this Methodist church,
I thought, gosh, maybe she's looking at the wrong thing,
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because aren't we supposed to just go and worship, you
not really look at the person who's ring a message, right,
because everybody here on earth is we're just we're flawed.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Sure, sure the message should be coming through in a
way that it's less about the person, although personality certainly
can play a part, but that it should be less
about that.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
So I guess what I wanted to understand is I
felt that I didn't have the right words to share
with her or the right message to give to her.
All I told her was that she should just, you know,
base her her intention to go to church, simply to
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go and worship, not so much the environment. And I'm
hoping that I gave her the right assistance.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
I think you did with a comma. I think there's
more to it than that. I don't think what you
said was wrong, but there is more to it than that.
Because there are bad churches or there are bad fits.
Imagine it this way, that when you're in love, you
should love without condition right unconditionally be tied to that person.
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But you would never give that advice to someone to
start out with. You never say, you know what, don't
worry about the flaws of the person you're dating, just
marry them. You wouldn't because although you want them to
be in a state of unconditional love, you want them
to be in that state with somebody who deserves the
unconditional love. So likewise, you want her to go into
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a church free thinking and receiving what the spirit has
to bring, and worshiping in that church, regardless of who's
teaching and the environment. And that's not really a fair statement,
because I mean everything from the pragmatic that the pews
or the chairs might bother her, back to the message
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not hitting her in a particular way, the music bothering her.
All those things can take her out of the state
of worship, shipness or kind of that free being able
to just go and receive because the you know, if
there's somebody chattering next to you, or there's a noise
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that something makes, it could take you out of that moment.
So the environment most certainly plays a part in how
you're receiving. But the spirit of what you're saying, I
totally get you're saying. Listen, it's not about that go
and be with God. God's going to be there and
connect with God, not with just the people. Totally true.
But all those things, whether you like it or not
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as a human being, are going to play a part
of your experience. You know, the air conditioning can be broken.
All these things can play apart somehow in your experience.
And if she's getting a bad vibe, that concerns me.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yes, And the bad vibe that she mentioned was she
doesn't like all the ornate things. But it's almost like
she in my opinion, it was almost like she was
a bit nitpicky, and you know, the pastors wearing a robe,
those types of things that remind her of our Catholic upbringing,
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which was beautiful because you know, our parents were very
beautiful people. But I think that certain things about the
Catholic religion don't resonate well with her and with myself
as well. I mean, it's just the there are certain
things that represent things that we don't sort of necessarily
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want to care about.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Now, have you guys, you know, formally left the Catholic Church.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Well, yes, okay, we've been we've been going to a
non denominational you know, Christian church for over ten years.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Okay, so this is not something new to either of you. Now,
I find that strange that she's you know, because you
go to Lutheran Church, you go to other Protestant churches, Methodists, Episcopalia,
and you can go to Protestant churches and they would
have some of the vestment style dress or certain structural
that certainly is not the mass, but it's gonna have
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some structure like that that would be similar. And if
that's what you know, she wants to get away from,
then that's legitimate. I don't know if it should give
you a bad feeling unless it's tied, unless it's just
a trigger for something that tied that you both experienced
one time in the Catholic church or something like that.
But ultimately, if the church, you have to think of
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church as a choice that it's like ice cream. There
are certain things that have to be an ice cream
to make it ice cream if that there, otherwise it
becomes frozen custard or frozen yogurt or what have you,
or one of my producer Neil's favorites gelato. Oh boy.
So there are certain things that make it that differentiate,
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but flavors are separate from that. So what makes it
ice cream is the cream content and that type of thing.
But whether it's chocolate or vanilla is really a taste thing.
So make sure that the content is there, that it
is a good Christian church and it has a solid foundation.
But what flavor you choose, that's really going to be
up to you. When it comes to finding a church,
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it can be. It can be difficult. Sometimes some people
overly spiritualize things and want, you know, when you walk
in to feel like everything melts off you from the
week and all that. It's not always going to be
that cut and dry. You play a part. The wonderful
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organism that is a church is built up of the
people in it. Are you participating in the church. Are
you ushering or working with the children, or part of
the music worship team or whatever, helping with people, parking,
whatever it might be. Are you involved in the church
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reaching into the church rather than waiting for the church
to reach into you. Participating with a church is one
of the wonderful things that can make it come to life.
And I know sometimes it gets scary because you think, well,
what if I hear something I don't like or whatever,
I become disillusioned with the church. Now I've connected with
so many people, and that gets scary, I understand. But
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you shouldn't go into it with that attitude. You should
go into it looking forward to the possibility of meeting
new people, engaging others and being engaged by them, and
really being part of the community. When you're a part
of a church and you connect with the church on
the deepest level is really when you get the most
out of it. It is a community. Now you can
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think of it in other terms. You could move somewhere
and really enjoy your home and the neighborhood for its
aesthetics or what have you. But it doesn't really come
to life unless you're engaged in it, unless you know
what's going on and you participate and really know your neighbors,
and then it becomes something special, something more than just
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the house or the structure. And likewise, in the church,
for it to be more than just a building, more
than just a guy standing up in the front telling
you things and a band playing music, then really you've
got to invest in it differently and make sure that
when you're going into a church that you're giving into
it as well as receiving from it. Karen, Welcome to
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the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Hi, how are you today?
Speaker 1 (08:39):
I am well, how are you?
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Very good?
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Thank you? Thank you for your show.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Oh you're welcome.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Just love it. My question today is a born again Christian.
I just was wondering about cremation and how you think
God stands on that.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Well, there's nothing in scripture that really talks about it.
There are some bones that are burned in Second King's
twenty three, and there are people that as ugly as
it seems, that were burned to death and things like that,
but there's no real specific discussion for the Christian about cremation.
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So the only concern that Christians tend to have or
things dealing with end times prophecy type stuff and God
raising Christians from the ground, and people say, well, Gosh,
God's got rather resurrect bodies and we're putting them, you're
essentially making them dust. Well, I and this isn't to
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be crude or crass, but the body decays in the
ground as well, no matter how well you wrap it,
unless you're doing a mummification. But even then, there are
parts of the body that decay and it starts to
become dust. Anyways, It just it will eventually, with long
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enough time, exactly the same as it would be if
He burned it. Yes, So it's not about one It's
not about whether God could resurrect a cremated body, of course.
So although our Jewish brothers and sisters have different concerns
with cremation, a Christian has none. There's nothing biblically that
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would say that it was wrong. There's nothing that would
keep God from doing something or any of those things.
It's just a choice, and sometimes it's less expensive or
a more prudent choice for some families, and some families
want the ashes to be close and these types of things.
There's all kinds of different reasons for it, but there's
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nothing specifically in scripture that would note there was a
problem with cremation or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Well, that answers my questions. It's just been on my
mind for years, and finally I got your show and
I decided to ask you.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Well, there's not a specific need, I hope no urgent.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
I am claustrophobic as an alive person, and I don't
want to go under the ground.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Oh so, so being on an urn where you can
watch everything's a little better to you just you know,
I don't know. Do you know they make custom earns
now that you can have digitally have your face put
on the urn.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Oh that's scary, a little creepy. Throw me out in
the ocean.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
I'd rather be under the water than under the ground.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
I think I see that people have different concerns with
the way. Trust me, where you're going, you won't none
of this will matter. You will be having a wonderful
time and the things of this world will be washed away.
In that sense, but in claustrophobia, yeah, even, yeah, that
will be one. There will be no walls or confinement.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
You will be fine, all spirits wonderful.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Well, thank you so much for your health to say.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
You're welcome, thank you for your call. That is one
that people do get concerned. And you know, I get
a lot of questions about the afterlife, of course, but
there are a lot of human feelings and concerns that
people feel that they're going to take on with them,
and you know, claustrophobias would be one of them. And
the concept of cremation comes up from time to time.
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Just know that from the dust you were created. From
the dust, you will return. The time in which you
do so may be up to you, but how is
up to God. And God is not perplexed by the
concept of cremation. It's not like he's going to say, oh, man,
when I build a puzzle, I like to put all
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the blue pieces at the top because those are going
to be sky, and the green pieces down here because
those are gonna be grass. And now they're all messed
up and burnt, and I don't see or understand anything.
I think God will be fine with all of the
reconstruction Creator creates and nothing will stump him. Joshua, Welcome
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to Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Oh thank you, thank you for taking my call. I
appreciate that, my pleasure. What's on your mind about relationships?
And I got with the girl. I'm agnostic. I'm considered
it tw with by some people. I've got a native
point of view, live off the land type of view.
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But my ex is a Christian and we were together
for like twelve years. And you know, you shouldn't give
up hope and hold out things can get better and stuff.
But in this day and age, I like, I don't
see things getting better. To be honest with you, I'm
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still really good friends with this individual. We were together
for twelve years. This girl comes down probably about twice
a month, hang out with me any birthday. She comes
down for a birthday and everything. But the fact of
the matter is there's no getting together again. There's no reunion,
there's there's no finishing. It's basically it's over and done with.
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And you just got to accept things the way they
are sometimes and things really aren't that great. To be
honest with you, Jesus, I've been now, Like I told you,
I was out on the lake fishing last night that calffish.
That's the only food I have. I've been without electricity
or water for the last five months. Actually not electricity.
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I have electricity.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
And you say that water gap. But you say, Joshua,
that you you land in the blaef system of Taoism.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Uh no, no, no, I didn't say that. I said
that certain people consider me a Dallist.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Okay, but if you if you fall, is that because
of your attitude towards the land and or you know,
being Dallas.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Oh no, no, no, no, it's not that. It's very Yeah,
it's more complicated than that. Say I was here, I'll
simplify it. My uncle, who majored in philosophy, considers me
a dallast He gotcha. And I'm philosophic school in that
I just blow things off. But then I got other
people in my family that think that I got a
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Native American Indian belief system. Where like I said, I
took my friend who's a Christian, and I just took
him out in the woods. Last night Lamont Big shout
out to him and hey, let's go catch some catfish
and some baths. We can live off the land and
live naturally. In show and.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
You've had a late night. I will tell you this
when it comes Joshua to the concept of uh, you know,
everything happening for a reason. When it comes to feeling
optimistic about bad situations, the Christian sees it from a
different perspective than someone who might be a doll or
or somebody who's an agnostic. As you said, you yourself
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called yourself an agnostic, so that's what we'll go with.
We'll go with agnostic. But a Christian has hope in
things like First Corinthians two nine, where it says I
has not seen nor ear heard, nor have anyone entered
into the heart of man the things which God has
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prepared for those who love him. The hope does not
come from just circumstances. If you hear me give out
the phone numbers, I say, you know, if you have
a theology question or life situation. We say life situation
because the circumstances do change, and if you bank on
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just a circumstance, it's not a very safe place to
be because they do change. Some people spend all their
money because they have because they have a job, and
then you forget the fact that you may not have
a job. One day, and then you have no money.
So even when you're working, you save your money with
the attitude of circumstances change, circumstances changing. So the Christian
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does not live on circumstances. If they did, there would
have been a big problem, because if you remember, there
was a point where I was on that cross. I
died on that cross, and then what did that mean?
You had even my truest believers scattering and running around
because they're going, oh my gosh, the biggest, the worst
thing they could see to them was physical death. But
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more was going on than physical death. And so to
the Christian, optimism is different. It's being seen in the
Statements of Philippians four thirteen, when Paul declares, I can
do all things through Christ, who strengthens me. It's not
the same attitude of the world that says when things
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are good, I'm happy. When things are bad, I'm sad,
or the hedonist that says all god good things feel
good and all bad things feel bad. That's just not
the way it works. To the Christian, the believer sees
a multitude of glory in God in all situations, good
or bad. Outside of faith, people look just for something
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to feel good or be good, don't want to work,
don't want to strive, don't want to have to sweat
for it. But the believer says, not my will, but
thy will be done, Lord, that it is in the
hands of God, and that with that comes hope. Romans
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eight twenty eight says, and we know that God causes
all things to work together for the good to those
who love God, to those who are called according to
His capital h purpose. There is the beauty of optimism
in faith. And unfortunately, if you're you know, come from
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an agnostic place where you just don't know where God
is or if he is, or any of those things,
you can get lost in your own feelings or the circumstances.
And it's not about those those will change. People that
get lost in circumstances end up having very, very problem
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filled lives. Have you ever watched a movie where, since
you're on the outside, you can see everything that the
characters in the movie are doing wrong, and you see them, Oh,
they have a misunderstanding, and they hear a message from
their girlfriend or wife to someone else and they go, oh,
they're cheating on me, and you're going, no, they're putting
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together a surprise party for you, and the guy gets upset,
he goes out, he drinks, and you're going, don't do it.
She's not having an affair. She's setting up a surprise
party with your best friend. There's nothing going on, gets drunk,
gets in the car, gets in an accident, and you
just see their life spin out of control from a circumstance.
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God is doing the same thing. God sees everything as
one fat thought happening simultaneously everywhere. So when you start
reacting to things, and it's been said that life is
truly ten percent what happens to you in ninety percent
how you react to it. Therein lies the nugget I
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want to impart to you, Joshua, is that what you
do with the things around you, what you do with loss,
what you do with any with gained, with anything in
your life, will dictate the character of who you are.
And as believers, as Christians, those that are faithful rely
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not on the circumstance, but in the of all things,
God himself. Phil Welcome to New York Times. Hi Phil, Yes,
Welcome to Jesus Christ Show. How can I help you?
Speaker 5 (21:14):
You're the Messiah that was predicted in the Old Testament.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Right, Well, that's how Christians would think it was.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Okay, are you.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Is Jesus Christ the Messiah that was predicted in the
Old Testament? Yes? I mean like, is he Kill thirty
seven and all that?
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Right?
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Yes, all that good stuff Isaiah fifty three, all that
good stuff. So how come you don't beat any of
the criterion in Isaiah in Kill thirty seven? Have you
ever studied what is referred to as the Jesus's Address?
I just go strictly by scripture. Yeah, this is all
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based on scripture. Have you ever read Jesus's Address? I
don't see anything in the New Testament listed as Jesus Address. No,
it's not a specific thing that you will find there.
It's a it's a let's say, it's a conglomeration of
the ideas that are in scripture and the prophetical concepts
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that lead towards whether I was the Messiah or not.
As a matter of fact, there are over four hundred
prophecies that point to the Messiah of the Old Testament,
and in those prophecies, obviously the likelihood or the probability
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becomes greater and greater each time you add another prophecy.
So Jesus' address is a it's a compiled look at
all of those, and I would recommend, out of your
curiosity to go through and check that out so that
you can see which ones were fulfilled. And I don't
want to ruin the end of the story, but all
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of them. Gina.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
Yes, Well, my father in law recently was unfaithful to
his wife and he says he's sorry, but my husband
and I are concerned that he really isn't sorry or
tries to justify his actions through scripture, saying that in
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scripture it says that it's better to go with a
prostitute than shet with someone he was emotionally attached with,
which is what happened.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
And also, so it's better to poke out your eye
or cut off your hand than it is to steal
or lust. And the point is that it's the point
being made, is that it's so gross what's going to
be done, that it's better to be with a process.
It's not saying that it's okay to be with a prostitute.
It's saying that any more than it's saying it's okay
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to cut off your hand or gouge out your eyes.
It's trying to make a point at how horrible that
that relationship would be. It's being misused.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
He's also kind of going back to another mind, saying
that if he doesn't get intent forgiveness, or that we
don't forgive him right away, he might backslide, which is
something else.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
What does that have to do with you?
Speaker 5 (24:34):
Well, because my husband, his son is trying to forgive him,
and they have another son, and he's very angry and
he can't forgive him at the moment. So he's saying,
if I don't get forgiveness from him right away, I'm
going to backslide.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
This man, by your description, sounds horribly manipulative.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
Yeah, I think that's what he's doing right now. I
think he's trying to justify his actions being desperate, which
is not something that is of his nature.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
But how did he get caught with the prostitute.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
He made a call to her and it went over
the speaker in the car. The bluetooth picked it up,
so his wife overheard the conversation or the call and
fronted him.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Is if you know, does is he still having sexual
relations with his wife or was he at the time? No?
Speaker 5 (25:31):
And I guess that was the problem because they're of
older age that he still had needs and she wasn't
able to anymore. So it was a topic of discussion
for them for a couple of years.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
And she she was she's unable to.
Speaker 5 (25:45):
Yeah, she's just not She has cancer, so it's not
very comfortable for her, and so he's he started. The
doctor put him on hormones, so he became I'm a
lot more excited, and he needed to release himself, and
I guess he got desperate enough to go and find
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it elsewhere.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Oh, this is much more complicated than in the few
minutes that we're allotted on the program before we sign
off here. But the excuses that are being used are
very manipulative, and the prostitution is not the answer and
can cause a lot of problems. I know that there's
many people that would disagree with that, and so be it.
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But Scripture doesn't give any any leeway to the concept
of prostitution. People can argue that prostitution was used for
the good, or a prostitute was used for the good
in Joshua and things like that. But you know Romans
six thirteen, Proverbs five to three through five, there's all
kinds of verses that talk about prostitution not being a
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good and or a healthy thing for the body for
relationship or anything like that, for both parties, even the prostitute.
As far as forgiveness goes, the forgiveness is for the individual.
So in this case, it's for your your husband and
his brother. It's not for the father. It's for them
to release it so that it doesn't sit in them,
so they can give forgiveness as freely as they want.
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But as far as reconciliation and maybe connecting with the
father again, that's different, and that has to come as
they feel ready for it, and there's nothing, you know,
the father can do. It's a sticky situation. I think
that it should be dealt with in love. I don't
think the man should be ostracized. It is a very
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specific situation and it's sad that it comes to this.
The body is a very powerful and oftentimes confusing machine,
and it does have needs and I think it's legitimate,
and I'm proud of the father in many ways for
understanding that that he's having these needs and that they're
trying to find some circumstance if if it's just not
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physic possible as it seems with the wife. Then think
there needs to be a plan being it can't be
a prostitute. That's ridiculous and can cause more problems. KFI
A M six forty on demand
You're listening to KFI six on demand. Elena, Welcome to
the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Oh thank you for taking my call. I'm calling because
last night I was having a conversation with my sister
and it was with respect to her uneasiness at a
church that she recently went to. It's a Methodist church.
She's always been a very faithful follower of Jesus Christ,
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and she loves the Lord. She has four beautiful boys.
And I was a bit shocked last night because I
find that she's looking for a reason not to go
to church. And last night, when she asked me about
this uneasy feeling that she had about this Methodist church,
I thought, gosh, maybe she's looking at the wrong thing,
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because aren't we supposed to just go and worship, you
not really look at the person who's ring a message, right,
because everybody here on earth is we're just we're flawed.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Sure, sure the message should be coming through in a
way that it's less about the person, although personality certainly
can play a part, but that it should be less
about that.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
So I guess what I wanted to understand is I
felt that I didn't have the right words to share
with her or the right message to give to her.
All I told her was that she should just, you know,
base her her intention to go to church, simply to
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go and worship, not so much the environment. And I'm
hoping that I gave her the right assistance.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
I think you did with a comma. I think there's
more to it than that. I don't think what you
said was wrong, but there is more to it than that.
Because there are bad churches or there are bad fits.
Imagine it this way, that when you're in love, you
should love without condition right unconditionally be tied to that person.
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But you would never give that advice to someone to
start out with. You never say, you know what, don't
worry about the flaws of the person you're dating, just
marry them. You wouldn't because although you want them to
be in a state of unconditional love, you want them
to be in that state with somebody who deserves the
unconditional love. So likewise, you want her to go into
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a church free thinking and receiving what the spirit has
to bring, and worshiping in that church, regardless of who's
teaching and the environment. And that's not really a fair statement,
because I mean everything from the pragmatic that the pews
or the chairs might bother her, back to the message
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not hitting her in a particular way, the music bothering her.
All those things can take her out of the state
of worship, shipness or kind of that free being able
to just go and receive because the you know, if
there's somebody chattering next to you, or there's a noise
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that something makes, it could take you out of that moment.
So the environment most certainly plays a part in how
you're receiving. But the spirit of what you're saying, I
totally get you're saying. Listen, it's not about that go
and be with God. God's going to be there and
connect with God, not with just the people. Totally true.
But all those things, whether you like it or not
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as a human being, are going to play a part
of your experience. You know, the air conditioning can be broken.
All these things can play apart somehow in your experience.
And if she's getting a bad vibe, that concerns me.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yes, And the bad vibe that she mentioned was she
doesn't like all the ornate things. But it's almost like
she in my opinion, it was almost like she was
a bit nitpicky, and you know, the pastors wearing a robe,
those types of things that remind her of our Catholic upbringing,
(04:13):
which was beautiful because you know, our parents were very
beautiful people. But I think that certain things about the
Catholic religion don't resonate well with her and with myself
as well. I mean, it's just the there are certain
things that represent things that we don't sort of necessarily
(04:37):
want to care about.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Now, have you guys, you know, formally left the Catholic Church.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Well, yes, okay, we've been we've been going to a
non denominational you know, Christian church for over ten years.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Okay, so this is not something new to either of you. Now,
I find that strange that she's you know, because you
go to Lutheran Church, you go to other Protestant churches, Methodists, Episcopalia,
and you can go to Protestant churches and they would
have some of the vestment style dress or certain structural
that certainly is not the mass, but it's gonna have
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some structure like that that would be similar. And if
that's what you know, she wants to get away from,
then that's legitimate. I don't know if it should give
you a bad feeling unless it's tied, unless it's just
a trigger for something that tied that you both experienced
one time in the Catholic church or something like that.
But ultimately, if the church, you have to think of
(05:33):
church as a choice that it's like ice cream. There
are certain things that have to be an ice cream
to make it ice cream if that there, otherwise it
becomes frozen custard or frozen yogurt or what have you,
or one of my producer Neil's favorites gelato. Oh boy.
So there are certain things that make it that differentiate,
(05:54):
but flavors are separate from that. So what makes it
ice cream is the cream content and that type of thing.
But whether it's chocolate or vanilla is really a taste thing.
So make sure that the content is there, that it
is a good Christian church and it has a solid foundation.
But what flavor you choose, that's really going to be
up to you. When it comes to finding a church,
(06:23):
it can be. It can be difficult. Sometimes some people
overly spiritualize things and want, you know, when you walk
in to feel like everything melts off you from the
week and all that. It's not always going to be
that cut and dry. You play a part. The wonderful
(06:43):
organism that is a church is built up of the
people in it. Are you participating in the church. Are
you ushering or working with the children, or part of
the music worship team or whatever, helping with people, parking,
whatever it might be. Are you involved in the church
(07:05):
reaching into the church rather than waiting for the church
to reach into you. Participating with a church is one
of the wonderful things that can make it come to life.
And I know sometimes it gets scary because you think, well,
what if I hear something I don't like or whatever,
I become disillusioned with the church. Now I've connected with
so many people, and that gets scary, I understand. But
(07:28):
you shouldn't go into it with that attitude. You should
go into it looking forward to the possibility of meeting
new people, engaging others and being engaged by them, and
really being part of the community. When you're a part
of a church and you connect with the church on
the deepest level is really when you get the most
out of it. It is a community. Now you can
(07:51):
think of it in other terms. You could move somewhere
and really enjoy your home and the neighborhood for its
aesthetics or what have you. But it doesn't really come
to life unless you're engaged in it, unless you know
what's going on and you participate and really know your neighbors,
and then it becomes something special, something more than just
(08:11):
the house or the structure. And likewise, in the church,
for it to be more than just a building, more
than just a guy standing up in the front telling
you things and a band playing music, then really you've
got to invest in it differently and make sure that
when you're going into a church that you're giving into
it as well as receiving from it. Karen, Welcome to
(08:36):
the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Hi, how are you today?
Speaker 1 (08:39):
I am well, how are you?
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Very good?
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Thank you? Thank you for your show.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Oh you're welcome.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Just love it. My question today is a born again Christian.
I just was wondering about cremation and how you think
God stands on that.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Well, there's nothing in scripture that really talks about it.
There are some bones that are burned in Second King's
twenty three, and there are people that as ugly as
it seems, that were burned to death and things like that,
but there's no real specific discussion for the Christian about cremation.
(09:15):
So the only concern that Christians tend to have or
things dealing with end times prophecy type stuff and God
raising Christians from the ground, and people say, well, Gosh,
God's got rather resurrect bodies and we're putting them, you're
essentially making them dust. Well, I and this isn't to
(09:39):
be crude or crass, but the body decays in the
ground as well, no matter how well you wrap it,
unless you're doing a mummification. But even then, there are
parts of the body that decay and it starts to
become dust. Anyways, It just it will eventually, with long
(09:59):
enough time, exactly the same as it would be if
He burned it. Yes, So it's not about one It's
not about whether God could resurrect a cremated body, of course.
So although our Jewish brothers and sisters have different concerns
with cremation, a Christian has none. There's nothing biblically that
(10:20):
would say that it was wrong. There's nothing that would
keep God from doing something or any of those things.
It's just a choice, and sometimes it's less expensive or
a more prudent choice for some families, and some families
want the ashes to be close and these types of things.
There's all kinds of different reasons for it, but there's
(10:41):
nothing specifically in scripture that would note there was a
problem with cremation or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Well, that answers my questions. It's just been on my
mind for years, and finally I got your show and
I decided to ask you.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Well, there's not a specific need, I hope no urgent.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
I am claustrophobic as an alive person, and I don't
want to go under the ground.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Oh so, so being on an urn where you can
watch everything's a little better to you just you know,
I don't know. Do you know they make custom earns
now that you can have digitally have your face put
on the urn.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Oh that's scary, a little creepy. Throw me out in
the ocean.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
I'd rather be under the water than under the ground.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
I think I see that people have different concerns with
the way. Trust me, where you're going, you won't none
of this will matter. You will be having a wonderful
time and the things of this world will be washed away.
In that sense, but in claustrophobia, yeah, even, yeah, that
will be one. There will be no walls or confinement.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
You will be fine, all spirits wonderful.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Well, thank you so much for your health to say.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
You're welcome, thank you for your call. That is one
that people do get concerned. And you know, I get
a lot of questions about the afterlife, of course, but
there are a lot of human feelings and concerns that
people feel that they're going to take on with them,
and you know, claustrophobias would be one of them. And
the concept of cremation comes up from time to time.
(12:17):
Just know that from the dust you were created. From
the dust, you will return. The time in which you
do so may be up to you, but how is
up to God. And God is not perplexed by the
concept of cremation. It's not like he's going to say, oh, man,
when I build a puzzle, I like to put all
(12:38):
the blue pieces at the top because those are going
to be sky, and the green pieces down here because
those are gonna be grass. And now they're all messed
up and burnt, and I don't see or understand anything.
I think God will be fine with all of the
reconstruction Creator creates and nothing will stump him. Joshua, Welcome
(13:04):
to Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Oh thank you, thank you for taking my call. I
appreciate that, my pleasure. What's on your mind about relationships?
And I got with the girl. I'm agnostic. I'm considered
it tw with by some people. I've got a native
point of view, live off the land type of view.
(13:30):
But my ex is a Christian and we were together
for like twelve years. And you know, you shouldn't give
up hope and hold out things can get better and stuff.
But in this day and age, I like, I don't
see things getting better. To be honest with you, I'm
(13:51):
still really good friends with this individual. We were together
for twelve years. This girl comes down probably about twice
a month, hang out with me any birthday. She comes
down for a birthday and everything. But the fact of
the matter is there's no getting together again. There's no reunion,
there's there's no finishing. It's basically it's over and done with.
(14:15):
And you just got to accept things the way they
are sometimes and things really aren't that great. To be
honest with you, Jesus, I've been now, Like I told you,
I was out on the lake fishing last night that calffish.
That's the only food I have. I've been without electricity
or water for the last five months. Actually not electricity.
(14:38):
I have electricity.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
And you say that water gap. But you say, Joshua,
that you you land in the blaef system of Taoism.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Uh no, no, no, I didn't say that. I said
that certain people consider me a Dallist.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Okay, but if you if you fall, is that because
of your attitude towards the land and or you know,
being Dallas.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Oh no, no, no, no, it's not that. It's very Yeah,
it's more complicated than that. Say I was here, I'll
simplify it. My uncle, who majored in philosophy, considers me
a dallast He gotcha. And I'm philosophic school in that
I just blow things off. But then I got other
people in my family that think that I got a
(15:25):
Native American Indian belief system. Where like I said, I
took my friend who's a Christian, and I just took
him out in the woods. Last night Lamont Big shout
out to him and hey, let's go catch some catfish
and some baths. We can live off the land and
live naturally. In show and.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
You've had a late night. I will tell you this
when it comes Joshua to the concept of uh, you know,
everything happening for a reason. When it comes to feeling
optimistic about bad situations, the Christian sees it from a
different perspective than someone who might be a doll or
or somebody who's an agnostic. As you said, you yourself
(16:06):
called yourself an agnostic, so that's what we'll go with.
We'll go with agnostic. But a Christian has hope in
things like First Corinthians two nine, where it says I
has not seen nor ear heard, nor have anyone entered
into the heart of man the things which God has
(16:26):
prepared for those who love him. The hope does not
come from just circumstances. If you hear me give out
the phone numbers, I say, you know, if you have
a theology question or life situation. We say life situation
because the circumstances do change, and if you bank on
(16:48):
just a circumstance, it's not a very safe place to
be because they do change. Some people spend all their
money because they have because they have a job, and
then you forget the fact that you may not have
a job. One day, and then you have no money.
So even when you're working, you save your money with
the attitude of circumstances change, circumstances changing. So the Christian
(17:11):
does not live on circumstances. If they did, there would
have been a big problem, because if you remember, there
was a point where I was on that cross. I
died on that cross, and then what did that mean?
You had even my truest believers scattering and running around
because they're going, oh my gosh, the biggest, the worst
thing they could see to them was physical death. But
(17:34):
more was going on than physical death. And so to
the Christian, optimism is different. It's being seen in the
Statements of Philippians four thirteen, when Paul declares, I can
do all things through Christ, who strengthens me. It's not
the same attitude of the world that says when things
(17:55):
are good, I'm happy. When things are bad, I'm sad,
or the hedonist that says all god good things feel
good and all bad things feel bad. That's just not
the way it works. To the Christian, the believer sees
a multitude of glory in God in all situations, good
or bad. Outside of faith, people look just for something
(18:22):
to feel good or be good, don't want to work,
don't want to strive, don't want to have to sweat
for it. But the believer says, not my will, but
thy will be done, Lord, that it is in the
hands of God, and that with that comes hope. Romans
(18:42):
eight twenty eight says, and we know that God causes
all things to work together for the good to those
who love God, to those who are called according to
His capital h purpose. There is the beauty of optimism
in faith. And unfortunately, if you're you know, come from
(19:05):
an agnostic place where you just don't know where God
is or if he is, or any of those things,
you can get lost in your own feelings or the circumstances.
And it's not about those those will change. People that
get lost in circumstances end up having very, very problem
(19:27):
filled lives. Have you ever watched a movie where, since
you're on the outside, you can see everything that the
characters in the movie are doing wrong, and you see them, Oh,
they have a misunderstanding, and they hear a message from
their girlfriend or wife to someone else and they go, oh,
they're cheating on me, and you're going, no, they're putting
(19:48):
together a surprise party for you, and the guy gets upset,
he goes out, he drinks, and you're going, don't do it.
She's not having an affair. She's setting up a surprise
party with your best friend. There's nothing going on, gets drunk,
gets in the car, gets in an accident, and you
just see their life spin out of control from a circumstance.
(20:14):
God is doing the same thing. God sees everything as
one fat thought happening simultaneously everywhere. So when you start
reacting to things, and it's been said that life is
truly ten percent what happens to you in ninety percent
how you react to it. Therein lies the nugget I
(20:36):
want to impart to you, Joshua, is that what you
do with the things around you, what you do with loss,
what you do with any with gained, with anything in
your life, will dictate the character of who you are.
And as believers, as Christians, those that are faithful rely
(20:57):
not on the circumstance, but in the of all things,
God himself. Phil Welcome to New York Times. Hi Phil, Yes,
Welcome to Jesus Christ Show. How can I help you?
Speaker 5 (21:14):
You're the Messiah that was predicted in the Old Testament.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Right, Well, that's how Christians would think it was.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Okay, are you.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Is Jesus Christ the Messiah that was predicted in the
Old Testament? Yes? I mean like, is he Kill thirty
seven and all that?
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Right?
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Yes, all that good stuff Isaiah fifty three, all that
good stuff. So how come you don't beat any of
the criterion in Isaiah in Kill thirty seven? Have you
ever studied what is referred to as the Jesus's Address?
I just go strictly by scripture. Yeah, this is all
(21:54):
based on scripture. Have you ever read Jesus's Address? I
don't see anything in the New Testament listed as Jesus Address. No,
it's not a specific thing that you will find there.
It's a it's a let's say, it's a conglomeration of
the ideas that are in scripture and the prophetical concepts
(22:16):
that lead towards whether I was the Messiah or not.
As a matter of fact, there are over four hundred
prophecies that point to the Messiah of the Old Testament,
and in those prophecies, obviously the likelihood or the probability
(22:40):
becomes greater and greater each time you add another prophecy.
So Jesus' address is a it's a compiled look at
all of those, and I would recommend, out of your
curiosity to go through and check that out so that
you can see which ones were fulfilled. And I don't
want to ruin the end of the story, but all
(23:04):
of them. Gina.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
Yes, Well, my father in law recently was unfaithful to
his wife and he says he's sorry, but my husband
and I are concerned that he really isn't sorry or
tries to justify his actions through scripture, saying that in
(23:33):
scripture it says that it's better to go with a
prostitute than shet with someone he was emotionally attached with,
which is what happened.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
And also, so it's better to poke out your eye
or cut off your hand than it is to steal
or lust. And the point is that it's the point
being made, is that it's so gross what's going to
be done, that it's better to be with a process.
It's not saying that it's okay to be with a prostitute.
It's saying that any more than it's saying it's okay
(24:05):
to cut off your hand or gouge out your eyes.
It's trying to make a point at how horrible that
that relationship would be. It's being misused.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
He's also kind of going back to another mind, saying
that if he doesn't get intent forgiveness, or that we
don't forgive him right away, he might backslide, which is
something else.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
What does that have to do with you?
Speaker 5 (24:34):
Well, because my husband, his son is trying to forgive him,
and they have another son, and he's very angry and
he can't forgive him at the moment. So he's saying,
if I don't get forgiveness from him right away, I'm
going to backslide.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
This man, by your description, sounds horribly manipulative.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
Yeah, I think that's what he's doing right now. I
think he's trying to justify his actions being desperate, which
is not something that is of his nature.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
But how did he get caught with the prostitute.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
He made a call to her and it went over
the speaker in the car. The bluetooth picked it up,
so his wife overheard the conversation or the call and
fronted him.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Is if you know, does is he still having sexual
relations with his wife or was he at the time? No?
Speaker 5 (25:31):
And I guess that was the problem because they're of
older age that he still had needs and she wasn't
able to anymore. So it was a topic of discussion
for them for a couple of years.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
And she she was she's unable to.
Speaker 5 (25:45):
Yeah, she's just not She has cancer, so it's not
very comfortable for her, and so he's he started. The
doctor put him on hormones, so he became I'm a
lot more excited, and he needed to release himself, and
I guess he got desperate enough to go and find
(26:06):
it elsewhere.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Oh, this is much more complicated than in the few
minutes that we're allotted on the program before we sign
off here. But the excuses that are being used are
very manipulative, and the prostitution is not the answer and
can cause a lot of problems. I know that there's
many people that would disagree with that, and so be it.
(26:31):
But Scripture doesn't give any any leeway to the concept
of prostitution. People can argue that prostitution was used for
the good, or a prostitute was used for the good
in Joshua and things like that. But you know Romans
six thirteen, Proverbs five to three through five, there's all
kinds of verses that talk about prostitution not being a
(26:52):
good and or a healthy thing for the body for
relationship or anything like that, for both parties, even the prostitute.
As far as forgiveness goes, the forgiveness is for the individual.
So in this case, it's for your your husband and
his brother. It's not for the father. It's for them
to release it so that it doesn't sit in them,
so they can give forgiveness as freely as they want.
(27:15):
But as far as reconciliation and maybe connecting with the
father again, that's different, and that has to come as
they feel ready for it, and there's nothing, you know,
the father can do. It's a sticky situation. I think
that it should be dealt with in love. I don't
think the man should be ostracized. It is a very
(27:35):
specific situation and it's sad that it comes to this.
The body is a very powerful and oftentimes confusing machine,
and it does have needs and I think it's legitimate,
and I'm proud of the father in many ways for
understanding that that he's having these needs and that they're
trying to find some circumstance if if it's just not
(27:59):
physic possible as it seems with the wife. Then think
there needs to be a plan being it can't be
a prostitute. That's ridiculous and can cause more problems. KFI
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