April 26, 2026 • 28 mins
Forgiveness
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
June. Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Well, good morning and drink. You very much for taking
my college and really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Oh well, I'm pleased that you held on so long.
How can I help you?
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Well, it's been a really rough year for me. I
lost my twenty four year old brother in law to
myo cardio and fortune, and I lost one of my
dearest friends of thirty years to cancer, and my mom
passed away. Oh boy, And the real kicker is there
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was a while where my mom and I du to
my ex husband. We did not have a good relationship
at all.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
She didn't get along with your ex husband at.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
All, both of us. Okay, okay. And after my father
died in nineteen ninety one and my ex husband and
I we were together, I finally got rid of him,
and according to my mom, she was telling me how
much of a better person I had become, how she
trusted me and loved me and all this. Well, come
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to find out, she didn't in talking with my family,
which were a small family. I'm an only child and
now I just have an aunt and a cousin. Left
and in talking with them, my mom was telling them
why I would refuse to come take her to her
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doctor's appointments for reasons such as it was too hot out.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
This was when you guys were supposedly when you had
mended your relationship, or these were things that she said
when you guys were still at odds.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
No, this was when she told me she loved me,
how proud of she, how proud she was of me,
all of this, and I found out so many things
since she died that I and this sounds terrible, I
should you should never speak this way about your mother.
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But she lied to me flat out. I mean, no,
there's no other way to put it, but live, okay.
She told me that my dad's belt buckle collection had
been stolen because I asked her for two of his
belt buckles to remember him by. I just found them.
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She had stolen my high school classroom jewelry that I
had completely forgotten about.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Was she fearful? Was she fearful financially? Were there problems?
Was she afraid that maybe she'd be out on the
street or.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
At first after my dad died, Yes, back in one
but once she got back on her feet.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
No, hmm. Well, unfortunately she's not around to answer those
questions herself as to explain why they might be. So
we're gonna we're gonna have to look at it through
you a little bit. And first of all, you've lied.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
To her right in the past.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Sure, okay, and it may have been different, but people
do lie to one another that even if they love
them and they do things for and they may have
may have reasons in their own mind as to why
they're doing it and why it's okay, they justify it
whatever the reason is.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Yes, I'll make no bones about it. Yes I did
before my dad died. Yes, I did a lot of
things that I look back on and am very assumed of.
And I told my mom this. I've sat down and
wrote her a three page letter that I found that
she actually kept and basically told him, Mom, it's my
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fault and I can't do anything to change the past. No,
but I just want to, I said, I want the
opportunities to prove to you that I am a changed
person for the.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Better, okay. And unfortunately she doesn't have that opportunity with
you now because she is passed. And really it's about
a state of forgiveness right now. And yeah, lying is
a heavy duty thing, don't get me wrong, it really is.
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And you can't have a life relationship anything if it's
built on lines. People need to be honest with each other,
even when it's painful. I get that, okay, But you
still sin yet you love God. You still do things
that slap face God's face at times because you'll act
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a certain way or do something a certain way, and
God forgives you. And so God says in Clausians three thirteen,
he says, bear with each other and forgive whatever grievances
you may have against one another. Forgive as the Lord
forgave you. So really, at this point, there's nothing that
can be gained by it. You don't have your mother
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here to defend as to why she did what she
did or any of these things. You just simply forgive.
It's a mandate. You just do it because it's for you,
not for your mother, your mother's not here, but for
you to release this so you don't have the burden
and this festering in your heart forever and ever and
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making you darker and uglier and angrier. It's not worth it.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
That's exactly what I want to avoid and that's why
I called it from God somewhere.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Well, there's the guidance, But here's the here's the hard part.
Now you have to apply it to your life. June.
You have to really apply these things. The good thing
is that it's not all the heavy lifting has to
be done by you. You have to jump off in
faith and say that you forgive because you want to
release it. Philippians one six says, and I am certain
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that God, who began began the good work within you,
will continue his work until it is finally finished on
the day when Christ Jesus returns. So you start it.
You start the act of forgiveness, knowing that it's the
right thing to do, and trust God to finish it.
And you trust God to continue to cleanse you of
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any anger and frustration. Your mom's gone. She's not even
here to defend why. She may have lied, or she
may have been embarrassed, She may have been forgetful, she
may have had some mental issues that you're not even
aware of. She may have feared getting so close to
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being thrown out of the house or dealing with being
on her own and whether she's going to deal it.
Maybe she hoarded things that she thought were valuable that
she may have to use because she didn't trust that
her family would be there for her if she was
in need. So she said, I'm going to take care
of myself, and I'm going to hide this ring, and
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I'm going to hide these belt buckles, and I'm gonna
hide whatever because it may be worth money, and I
cannot trust that my family's going to be there for
me if I'm in need. You have no idea, So
it's best to get in that mindset Claus's three thirteen.
To be in the state of forgiveness, to forgive, because
God forgives you daily for the things you do against
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his name. So be in that spirit, in that mindset,
and let that go, because harboring it is only going
to make you bitter and angry and ugly. It's not
worth it. Forgiveness people have to remember. Forgiveness is for you,
not for the other person. It's releasing that those toxins
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and that ugliness and moving on for you, not necessarily
for them. Deborah, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. Hi, Hi, Deborah,
how can I help you?
Speaker 4 (08:29):
I've been confused about one of the passages in the Bible.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
I don't, okay, I think.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
But it says God was created or God created man
in his own image, and to me that means to
me that means God's as faubl as we are.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
So I wanted you to explain that to me.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Well, a couple of things. The law of cause and effect.
The cause is always greater than the effect, so it
wouldn't necessarily mean that that's what it's trying to convey
a lot of people think that. But and I'm gonna
use some big, fancy words so this will be fun.
There's a term in logic called the transitive property of equality. So,
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for instance, if you are talking about a big round
boulder and a ball, and you say, this big round
boulder is like this ball, the transitive property of equality
would be its round shape. But certainly a ball, a
rubber ball, is going to be much different, lighter, and
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different than a big round boulder. So the likening between
the two is their shape. So you have to think
about when God says I'm going to create man, and
go down there and create man in our image, actually
is the verse that what he's referring to is intellect,
will and emotion that man will have intellect, will, and emotion,
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because God doesn't have legs or eyes or any of
those things. So there's obviously some things that are are
not being talked about there and that aren't being said,
and that The other thing that goes along with it
is that God is a creator and that man will
have the desire to create, to build things, to be creative,
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to do those things that God does, but differently. So
the actual thing that ties those things together is not
about you being a mini God, but to have intellect,
will and emotion like God does, and to be created
in the image, meaning that you will now know to
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do right based on an understanding using that intellect, will
and emotion. So that's what it comes down to. And
a lot of people get that confused, thinking that you're
created to be like God, and that's not the case
because by definition, God is uncreated, can't be created. If
he's created, he becomes the creature, not the creator. So
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something that is created can't be the creator by definition,
then that's not the property that was being displayed. You'll
hear Protestants and Catholics argue over the term used for
Mary and marry Mother of God and Protestants will say, no,
she's not the mother of God. She didn't give birth
to the God part. The God part always existed. She's
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the mother of Jesus, right, So when it comes to
my mother, there's all kinds of arguments that go back
and forth as to the terminology that's being used because
of that, what's being passed along, and why it's being
passed along. So in the case of God's creation, man
and woman being created in the image of God, it's
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about that intellect, will and emotion and the desire to create.
The enemy is the one that tries to woo people
to destroy things that is not God's nature. God's nature
is to create, not to destroy. So whenever destruction comes in,
it's to either squelch evil or it's from evil itself.
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And that's the major difference. And I know that a
lot of people get them confused because it's like, well,
what is the image of God. That's what's defined, that's
what helps define it in context. But it's not about being.
God didn't have arms and eyes and ears and any
of these things. Didn't need to walk around or any
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of this. Now, sure, in my state, when I was
sent to Earth, then I came in physical form with
those limitations that come with physicality, but in my deity
everything stayed the same, always and forever. So that's specifically
difference between being created in God's image. What is God's image? Intellect, will,
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and emotion. Brandon, Welcome to the Jazz Great Show.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (13:05):
I am well, how are you?
Speaker 1 (13:08):
I've seen better days.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I'm sorry to hear that. What's going on, Brandon?
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Well, I've been with this story for a while, on
and off for about five years, and I know the
the relationship didn't start out right. Uh, I did a
lot of terrible things three years ago. It's been about
three years ago, so I was in then. I've been
trying to be good, trying to show her I love her.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
So when when the relationship start? What do you mean
it didn't start out good?
Speaker 1 (13:35):
I was, I was, I was married, I was separated.
I was married. I lied to her because I had
moved from Texas to California. I had always been unhappy
with my parents, So when I met her, I wasn't
very forthcoming with her honesty. And you know, it started
out back and then as we start seeing each other,
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I see these signs of her. She was quote unquotave
gold digger. She would add me in financial help and
it shocked me, but I play along with it, so
I figure, hey, you know you're gonna use me. Then
I guess we could use to each other. And then
I slept with another girl. And then one day it
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just like the light came out to me and said,
this is all wrong. God, I can't be doing this.
So I came clean with her. I was packing myself
to leave. She gave me a second chance. That was
about three years ago, and we've been doing good which
like therapy, counseling, and I finally got a divorced. But
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just recently in the last seven months eight months, she
tells me that she wants a privacy and she wants
to see that I'm controlling. I'm like, how I am
I controlling? Well, because I can't go out with my
friends just to get you can't. I'm nothing. You can't
go out your friends. I just don't like the idea
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that he's dressed enough go bar hopping. I mean, we're
in our late forties and she just turned fifty. Well,
to make a long story short, she believes in a
relationship with no boundaries. She had the Facebook, that she
blocked me from it. There's nothing on her Facebook to
have my picture. She's chatting with guys on Facebook. And
last night she went out and I just oh. I
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fought the urge and fought the earth, but I finally
followed her. She went to a bar. I watched her
as she sat there by herself, drinking and smoking that
some guy came up and sat next to her and talked.
They talked, and then I got so slick, I spleft.
I went home and I just want to get away
from all the anger and pain. I took two ambient
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and went to sleep. I didn't want to be up
when she spots. She came home and I got up,
and now I'm just driving endlessly at seven in the morning.
I don't know what to do.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
I love her, but but but you do know what
to do, Brandon. You don't need to be with that.
That's ridiculous, regardless of love.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
But I felt that she gave me a chance, even
though I don't.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Think she actually No, she hasn't. She's been biting time
the same way you have been. I'm it's really a
matter of you guys wasting each other's time. The whole
relationship started down an ugly path the moment you guys
got together the first time.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
I know it's my fault. I admit that I know
I bite her, but.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Somehow she thought it was okay and that it would
be you know, for whatever her reasoning was. But right
now it's it's a horrible relationship. It's even it's it's
kind of not fair to refer to it as a relationship.
And you know all she's gonna do is is dump
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you when when she finds another guy.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
I have this.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Tremendous guilt because of what I did to her is
one thing. And number two, I have this two minute skills,
they said, and working three years. I had been paying
for anything for three years. I tried so hard to
make a man. I bought her a used car, I
did so much with her, and now that I just
can't believe she's willing to throw all this away just
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because she wants her a little freedom. She tells me,
I want my privacy. I'm like, when you are married
to somebody, or when you live with a boyfriend or
different living, this shouldn't any privacy. Privacy is because you
don't want somebody to know what you're doing. She goes,
that's not true. I just want my privacy, I think.
And then I caught her. She left her Facebook opened
one time on my computer, and of course I already
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had my gut and think that something was wrong, and
she was chatting with some guy. The guy even begged
her to meet him for coffee. And what I confront
her about it. Of course she lied about it. And
then she tells me in my face, I don't have
to thank you nothing. She always bring up the path
the cruci buy me. At least I didn't sleek withlah
blah blah. And I'm just so my heart is hurt,
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my I'm getting ulcer, high blood pressure, and I just
I can say, I'm so down that I still have
a terrible person.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
It's time to go. You both have overstayed. You're welcome
in each other's lives, and you make it sound you know,
you go to the romanticizing of it. Well, you know
I love her and this and that it's time to go.
And quite frankly, you're the one that moved in with her,
you're the one that has done things wrong and not
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made it an actual relationship. So you're not married. She
she doesn't have to do anything for you. She don't
have to be loyal to you as a boyfriend at all.
She should be, but she doesn't have to be. There's
no there's no commitment there. That's why people get married.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Well, I wanted to. I want to get married to her.
A lot of times. I keep on telling her, let's
go to therapy, let's go to counsel, and we have
issue that we need to, uh, you know, work through
because when you when when you're married and I've been
married three times and I want to do it right.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
You've been married three times? Yeah, my goodness, stop doing it.
You're horrible at it.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
I know.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
I wouldn't be in any relationship. This isn't about her.
This is about you. You're the one brave enough to
call and I'm glad you did, but you need to
You need to stop. No more relationships because you don't
know who you are, You don't know what you want.
You can't go through that three times and then put
someone else through it.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Well, I didn't ask to marry. Do you want to
get married?
Speaker 2 (19:48):
No, any relationship. I don't care if you're dating. You're
not ready for a relationship for whatever reason. You're the
one that needs to find out why there's big time
commitment issues. If you're you know, you're going through that
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many marriages and girlfriends and then you're still sleeping around,
you don't see that there's things you need to work on, Brandon,
for you, not for a relationship, but for you.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Yeah, absolutely, Okay, then get that done.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Say goodbye to her. It's not about her anymore. She's right,
she does deserve her privacy because there is no real
commitment there. And for one, and for two, it's a mess.
The whole thing's a mess. And yeah, she probably is
at least flirting with the concept of other men. An
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open Facebook page with her talking to guys. That's a
pretty big clue. Going out to bars, dulled up looking
for attention. You know these are these are not good things.
But you have the ability to control it by saying
no problem.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Man is.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
People get caught up in the emotions of it all
and like, oh, now I've got to you know, I
want to I want to win her back, I want
to win him back, I want to do whatever. And
that's not how it works out. You know, people start thinking, oh, well,
but if I just because then it becomes pride and emotion.
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If I can just tell her, get her to tell
me that she loves me and that she wants to
be with me again, then I'll leave. No, just get
your stuff and go. It's not going to work out.
It's not going to get any better because there's there's
problems that have grown to such degree, and really, how
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how else could they have grown? Look what you planted them, man, Yeah,
you put them in a planter filled with lies and mistrust,
and you expect to grow this beautiful tree that you
know bears the fruit of trust and love, and it's
just not going to happen.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Now.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
To protect yourself, Brandon, I hope that you. I hope
you you heed my words and and get yourself better.
You can't keep bringing the same garbage into different relationships.
You're the only constant in all your bad relationships. People
always say that, well, oh this person did this and
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this person did that. I get that that can happen.
But if you're on your had three marriages and you're
on another relationship now and you cheated on that's that's
a that's what you call a YP that's a your problem,
and you really need to assess that and be honest
about it. If you're not honest about it, then it's
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never gonna change. You're just gonna you know, it's like
changing the carpet every time you walk in with muddy shoes.
Oh boy, there it is. There's those black spots that
look like the shape of my shoe. Again. Okay, tear
up the carpet and then you walk back in. New carpet.
Oh my goodness, there's those black spots again. Get new carpet.
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It's not the carpet necessarily, it's your shoes. And you're spiritual,
your emotional shoes are filthy. So every time you walk
into a new relationship, that's gonna be dirty. And either
you're gonna be finding people that are already okay with
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that because they have their own issues, or you're gonna
make them that way. So clean up your own mess,
mine your business, and find out what's going on in
your life so that you can clean that up, and
you'll find out the getting to that place where you
know yourself and you enjoy being with just yourself and
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you're not paying for people's this, and you're not paying
for people's that, and you're not risk having a child,
and you're not doing all these things, then you set
yourself up in a better situation to be a real
partner to somebody and not just another body next to them.
I know that's what you want, because you wouldn't have
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been so brave to call and bold to call if
you didn't want to do it right. So now's the chance.
Go do it right, Nancy. Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 5 (24:35):
Good morning, Jesus.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Hi, how can I help you? Nancy?
Speaker 5 (24:42):
My brother is terminal. He's a brother that you led
me to twenty five years ago that I didn't know
I had. So I thank you for that, and I
thank you for the twenty five years during the building
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of our relationship we had talked about when the end
of our life came and you know, what we wanted
and all that kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Sure, and.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
We shared a lot about you. And now he's terminal.
He's in very bad condition, which I'm having a really
hard time understanding. He's such a good man.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Well, you know, people die, right, I know, I mean,
it's gonna it's sad at any time, but we understand
people do die, yes, So what is your question for me? Nancy?
Speaker 5 (25:56):
My question for you is excuse me end having a
difficult time when I talked to him and I found
out that he was terminal. He lives on one coast
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side of one another, and I told him that I
would like to come back to see him, and he asked.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Me not to.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
And why is that? He didn't want you to come
visit him.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
He didn't want me to see him the way he is.
It's a very very very aggressive cancer and he's failing
really fast, and.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
You're worried that you don't want to keep that promise.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
He's told me several times since then. His family wants
me to come, and I think my family thinks I'm
bad because I'm respecting his wishes. I'm the selfish part
of me wants to go because I just want to
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hug him and tell him I love him.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Sure, and I think it's actually a very selfish thing
for him to say that you can't visit him. But
people when they're in that state are feeling, you know,
all kinds of different types of pain and discomfort, and
it's strangely enough, some feel embarrassment too. It's a strange process.
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I would say, Nancy, to to find out specifically if
and to let him know how important it is to
you that you want to come out there. And if
he says absolutely positively not and so be it. You
can respect that. But if their family, if his family
is asking you and you feel moved to, I don't
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think that's a horrible thing to want to show your love.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
June. Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Well, good morning and drink. You very much for taking
my college and really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Oh well, I'm pleased that you held on so long.
How can I help you?
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Well, it's been a really rough year for me. I
lost my twenty four year old brother in law to
myo cardio and fortune, and I lost one of my
dearest friends of thirty years to cancer, and my mom
passed away. Oh boy, And the real kicker is there
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was a while where my mom and I du to
my ex husband. We did not have a good relationship
at all.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
She didn't get along with your ex husband at.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
All, both of us. Okay, okay. And after my father
died in nineteen ninety one and my ex husband and
I we were together, I finally got rid of him,
and according to my mom, she was telling me how
much of a better person I had become, how she
trusted me and loved me and all this. Well, come
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to find out, she didn't in talking with my family,
which were a small family. I'm an only child and
now I just have an aunt and a cousin. Left
and in talking with them, my mom was telling them
why I would refuse to come take her to her
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doctor's appointments for reasons such as it was too hot out.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
This was when you guys were supposedly when you had
mended your relationship, or these were things that she said
when you guys were still at odds.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
No, this was when she told me she loved me,
how proud of she, how proud she was of me,
all of this, and I found out so many things
since she died that I and this sounds terrible, I
should you should never speak this way about your mother.
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But she lied to me flat out. I mean, no,
there's no other way to put it, but live, okay.
She told me that my dad's belt buckle collection had
been stolen because I asked her for two of his
belt buckles to remember him by. I just found them.
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She had stolen my high school classroom jewelry that I
had completely forgotten about.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Was she fearful? Was she fearful financially? Were there problems?
Was she afraid that maybe she'd be out on the
street or.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
At first after my dad died, Yes, back in one
but once she got back on her feet.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
No, hmm. Well, unfortunately she's not around to answer those
questions herself as to explain why they might be. So
we're gonna we're gonna have to look at it through
you a little bit. And first of all, you've lied.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
To her right in the past.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Sure, okay, and it may have been different, but people
do lie to one another that even if they love
them and they do things for and they may have
may have reasons in their own mind as to why
they're doing it and why it's okay, they justify it
whatever the reason is.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Yes, I'll make no bones about it. Yes I did
before my dad died. Yes, I did a lot of
things that I look back on and am very assumed of.
And I told my mom this. I've sat down and
wrote her a three page letter that I found that
she actually kept and basically told him, Mom, it's my
(04:09):
fault and I can't do anything to change the past. No,
but I just want to, I said, I want the
opportunities to prove to you that I am a changed
person for the.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Better, okay. And unfortunately she doesn't have that opportunity with
you now because she is passed. And really it's about
a state of forgiveness right now. And yeah, lying is
a heavy duty thing, don't get me wrong, it really is.
(04:46):
And you can't have a life relationship anything if it's
built on lines. People need to be honest with each other,
even when it's painful. I get that, okay, But you
still sin yet you love God. You still do things
that slap face God's face at times because you'll act
(05:07):
a certain way or do something a certain way, and
God forgives you. And so God says in Clausians three thirteen,
he says, bear with each other and forgive whatever grievances
you may have against one another. Forgive as the Lord
forgave you. So really, at this point, there's nothing that
can be gained by it. You don't have your mother
(05:29):
here to defend as to why she did what she
did or any of these things. You just simply forgive.
It's a mandate. You just do it because it's for you,
not for your mother, your mother's not here, but for
you to release this so you don't have the burden
and this festering in your heart forever and ever and
(05:49):
making you darker and uglier and angrier. It's not worth it.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
That's exactly what I want to avoid and that's why
I called it from God somewhere.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Well, there's the guidance, But here's the here's the hard part.
Now you have to apply it to your life. June.
You have to really apply these things. The good thing
is that it's not all the heavy lifting has to
be done by you. You have to jump off in
faith and say that you forgive because you want to
release it. Philippians one six says, and I am certain
(06:22):
that God, who began began the good work within you,
will continue his work until it is finally finished on
the day when Christ Jesus returns. So you start it.
You start the act of forgiveness, knowing that it's the
right thing to do, and trust God to finish it.
And you trust God to continue to cleanse you of
(06:45):
any anger and frustration. Your mom's gone. She's not even
here to defend why. She may have lied, or she
may have been embarrassed, She may have been forgetful, she
may have had some mental issues that you're not even
aware of. She may have feared getting so close to
(07:08):
being thrown out of the house or dealing with being
on her own and whether she's going to deal it.
Maybe she hoarded things that she thought were valuable that
she may have to use because she didn't trust that
her family would be there for her if she was
in need. So she said, I'm going to take care
of myself, and I'm going to hide this ring, and
(07:28):
I'm going to hide these belt buckles, and I'm gonna
hide whatever because it may be worth money, and I
cannot trust that my family's going to be there for
me if I'm in need. You have no idea, So
it's best to get in that mindset Claus's three thirteen.
To be in the state of forgiveness, to forgive, because
God forgives you daily for the things you do against
(07:51):
his name. So be in that spirit, in that mindset,
and let that go, because harboring it is only going
to make you bitter and angry and ugly. It's not
worth it. Forgiveness people have to remember. Forgiveness is for you,
not for the other person. It's releasing that those toxins
(08:12):
and that ugliness and moving on for you, not necessarily
for them. Deborah, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. Hi, Hi, Deborah,
how can I help you?
Speaker 4 (08:29):
I've been confused about one of the passages in the Bible.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
I don't, okay, I think.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
But it says God was created or God created man
in his own image, and to me that means to
me that means God's as faubl as we are.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
So I wanted you to explain that to me.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Well, a couple of things. The law of cause and effect.
The cause is always greater than the effect, so it
wouldn't necessarily mean that that's what it's trying to convey
a lot of people think that. But and I'm gonna
use some big, fancy words so this will be fun.
There's a term in logic called the transitive property of equality. So,
(09:11):
for instance, if you are talking about a big round
boulder and a ball, and you say, this big round
boulder is like this ball, the transitive property of equality
would be its round shape. But certainly a ball, a
rubber ball, is going to be much different, lighter, and
(09:31):
different than a big round boulder. So the likening between
the two is their shape. So you have to think
about when God says I'm going to create man, and
go down there and create man in our image, actually
is the verse that what he's referring to is intellect,
will and emotion that man will have intellect, will, and emotion,
(09:53):
because God doesn't have legs or eyes or any of
those things. So there's obviously some things that are are
not being talked about there and that aren't being said,
and that The other thing that goes along with it
is that God is a creator and that man will
have the desire to create, to build things, to be creative,
(10:14):
to do those things that God does, but differently. So
the actual thing that ties those things together is not
about you being a mini God, but to have intellect,
will and emotion like God does, and to be created
in the image, meaning that you will now know to
(10:37):
do right based on an understanding using that intellect, will
and emotion. So that's what it comes down to. And
a lot of people get that confused, thinking that you're
created to be like God, and that's not the case
because by definition, God is uncreated, can't be created. If
he's created, he becomes the creature, not the creator. So
(11:04):
something that is created can't be the creator by definition,
then that's not the property that was being displayed. You'll
hear Protestants and Catholics argue over the term used for
Mary and marry Mother of God and Protestants will say, no,
she's not the mother of God. She didn't give birth
to the God part. The God part always existed. She's
(11:27):
the mother of Jesus, right, So when it comes to
my mother, there's all kinds of arguments that go back
and forth as to the terminology that's being used because
of that, what's being passed along, and why it's being
passed along. So in the case of God's creation, man
and woman being created in the image of God, it's
(11:49):
about that intellect, will and emotion and the desire to create.
The enemy is the one that tries to woo people
to destroy things that is not God's nature. God's nature
is to create, not to destroy. So whenever destruction comes in,
it's to either squelch evil or it's from evil itself.
(12:10):
And that's the major difference. And I know that a
lot of people get them confused because it's like, well,
what is the image of God. That's what's defined, that's
what helps define it in context. But it's not about being.
God didn't have arms and eyes and ears and any
of these things. Didn't need to walk around or any
(12:32):
of this. Now, sure, in my state, when I was
sent to Earth, then I came in physical form with
those limitations that come with physicality, but in my deity
everything stayed the same, always and forever. So that's specifically
difference between being created in God's image. What is God's image? Intellect, will,
(12:54):
and emotion. Brandon, Welcome to the Jazz Great Show.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (13:05):
I am well, how are you?
Speaker 1 (13:08):
I've seen better days.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I'm sorry to hear that. What's going on, Brandon?
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Well, I've been with this story for a while, on
and off for about five years, and I know the
the relationship didn't start out right. Uh, I did a
lot of terrible things three years ago. It's been about
three years ago, so I was in then. I've been
trying to be good, trying to show her I love her.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
So when when the relationship start? What do you mean
it didn't start out good?
Speaker 1 (13:35):
I was, I was, I was married, I was separated.
I was married. I lied to her because I had
moved from Texas to California. I had always been unhappy
with my parents, So when I met her, I wasn't
very forthcoming with her honesty. And you know, it started
out back and then as we start seeing each other,
(14:01):
I see these signs of her. She was quote unquotave
gold digger. She would add me in financial help and
it shocked me, but I play along with it, so
I figure, hey, you know you're gonna use me. Then
I guess we could use to each other. And then
I slept with another girl. And then one day it
(14:22):
just like the light came out to me and said,
this is all wrong. God, I can't be doing this.
So I came clean with her. I was packing myself
to leave. She gave me a second chance. That was
about three years ago, and we've been doing good which
like therapy, counseling, and I finally got a divorced. But
(14:44):
just recently in the last seven months eight months, she
tells me that she wants a privacy and she wants
to see that I'm controlling. I'm like, how I am
I controlling? Well, because I can't go out with my
friends just to get you can't. I'm nothing. You can't
go out your friends. I just don't like the idea
(15:04):
that he's dressed enough go bar hopping. I mean, we're
in our late forties and she just turned fifty. Well,
to make a long story short, she believes in a
relationship with no boundaries. She had the Facebook, that she
blocked me from it. There's nothing on her Facebook to
have my picture. She's chatting with guys on Facebook. And
last night she went out and I just oh. I
(15:25):
fought the urge and fought the earth, but I finally
followed her. She went to a bar. I watched her
as she sat there by herself, drinking and smoking that
some guy came up and sat next to her and talked.
They talked, and then I got so slick, I spleft.
I went home and I just want to get away
from all the anger and pain. I took two ambient
(15:45):
and went to sleep. I didn't want to be up
when she spots. She came home and I got up,
and now I'm just driving endlessly at seven in the morning.
I don't know what to do.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
I love her, but but but you do know what
to do, Brandon. You don't need to be with that.
That's ridiculous, regardless of love.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
But I felt that she gave me a chance, even
though I don't.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Think she actually No, she hasn't. She's been biting time
the same way you have been. I'm it's really a
matter of you guys wasting each other's time. The whole
relationship started down an ugly path the moment you guys
got together the first time.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
I know it's my fault. I admit that I know
I bite her, but.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Somehow she thought it was okay and that it would
be you know, for whatever her reasoning was. But right
now it's it's a horrible relationship. It's even it's it's
kind of not fair to refer to it as a relationship.
And you know all she's gonna do is is dump
(16:55):
you when when she finds another guy.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
I have this.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Tremendous guilt because of what I did to her is
one thing. And number two, I have this two minute skills,
they said, and working three years. I had been paying
for anything for three years. I tried so hard to
make a man. I bought her a used car, I
did so much with her, and now that I just
can't believe she's willing to throw all this away just
(17:21):
because she wants her a little freedom. She tells me,
I want my privacy. I'm like, when you are married
to somebody, or when you live with a boyfriend or
different living, this shouldn't any privacy. Privacy is because you
don't want somebody to know what you're doing. She goes,
that's not true. I just want my privacy, I think.
And then I caught her. She left her Facebook opened
one time on my computer, and of course I already
(17:43):
had my gut and think that something was wrong, and
she was chatting with some guy. The guy even begged
her to meet him for coffee. And what I confront
her about it. Of course she lied about it. And
then she tells me in my face, I don't have
to thank you nothing. She always bring up the path
the cruci buy me. At least I didn't sleek withlah
blah blah. And I'm just so my heart is hurt,
(18:04):
my I'm getting ulcer, high blood pressure, and I just
I can say, I'm so down that I still have
a terrible person.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
It's time to go. You both have overstayed. You're welcome
in each other's lives, and you make it sound you know,
you go to the romanticizing of it. Well, you know
I love her and this and that it's time to go.
And quite frankly, you're the one that moved in with her,
you're the one that has done things wrong and not
(18:38):
made it an actual relationship. So you're not married. She
she doesn't have to do anything for you. She don't
have to be loyal to you as a boyfriend at all.
She should be, but she doesn't have to be. There's
no there's no commitment there. That's why people get married.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Well, I wanted to. I want to get married to her.
A lot of times. I keep on telling her, let's
go to therapy, let's go to counsel, and we have
issue that we need to, uh, you know, work through
because when you when when you're married and I've been
married three times and I want to do it right.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
You've been married three times? Yeah, my goodness, stop doing it.
You're horrible at it.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
I know.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
I wouldn't be in any relationship. This isn't about her.
This is about you. You're the one brave enough to
call and I'm glad you did, but you need to
You need to stop. No more relationships because you don't
know who you are, You don't know what you want.
You can't go through that three times and then put
someone else through it.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Well, I didn't ask to marry. Do you want to
get married?
Speaker 2 (19:48):
No, any relationship. I don't care if you're dating. You're
not ready for a relationship for whatever reason. You're the
one that needs to find out why there's big time
commitment issues. If you're you know, you're going through that
(20:10):
many marriages and girlfriends and then you're still sleeping around,
you don't see that there's things you need to work on, Brandon,
for you, not for a relationship, but for you.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Yeah, absolutely, Okay, then get that done.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Say goodbye to her. It's not about her anymore. She's right,
she does deserve her privacy because there is no real
commitment there. And for one, and for two, it's a mess.
The whole thing's a mess. And yeah, she probably is
at least flirting with the concept of other men. An
(20:47):
open Facebook page with her talking to guys. That's a
pretty big clue. Going out to bars, dulled up looking
for attention. You know these are these are not good things.
But you have the ability to control it by saying
no problem.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Man is.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
People get caught up in the emotions of it all
and like, oh, now I've got to you know, I
want to I want to win her back, I want
to win him back, I want to do whatever. And
that's not how it works out. You know, people start thinking, oh, well,
but if I just because then it becomes pride and emotion.
(21:27):
If I can just tell her, get her to tell
me that she loves me and that she wants to
be with me again, then I'll leave. No, just get
your stuff and go. It's not going to work out.
It's not going to get any better because there's there's
problems that have grown to such degree, and really, how
(21:47):
how else could they have grown? Look what you planted them, man, Yeah,
you put them in a planter filled with lies and mistrust,
and you expect to grow this beautiful tree that you
know bears the fruit of trust and love, and it's
just not going to happen.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Now.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
To protect yourself, Brandon, I hope that you. I hope
you you heed my words and and get yourself better.
You can't keep bringing the same garbage into different relationships.
You're the only constant in all your bad relationships. People
always say that, well, oh this person did this and
(22:29):
this person did that. I get that that can happen.
But if you're on your had three marriages and you're
on another relationship now and you cheated on that's that's
a that's what you call a YP that's a your problem,
and you really need to assess that and be honest
about it. If you're not honest about it, then it's
(22:49):
never gonna change. You're just gonna you know, it's like
changing the carpet every time you walk in with muddy shoes.
Oh boy, there it is. There's those black spots that
look like the shape of my shoe. Again. Okay, tear
up the carpet and then you walk back in. New carpet.
Oh my goodness, there's those black spots again. Get new carpet.
(23:10):
It's not the carpet necessarily, it's your shoes. And you're spiritual,
your emotional shoes are filthy. So every time you walk
into a new relationship, that's gonna be dirty. And either
you're gonna be finding people that are already okay with
(23:33):
that because they have their own issues, or you're gonna
make them that way. So clean up your own mess,
mine your business, and find out what's going on in
your life so that you can clean that up, and
you'll find out the getting to that place where you
know yourself and you enjoy being with just yourself and
(23:56):
you're not paying for people's this, and you're not paying
for people's that, and you're not risk having a child,
and you're not doing all these things, then you set
yourself up in a better situation to be a real
partner to somebody and not just another body next to them.
I know that's what you want, because you wouldn't have
(24:17):
been so brave to call and bold to call if
you didn't want to do it right. So now's the chance.
Go do it right, Nancy. Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 5 (24:35):
Good morning, Jesus.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Hi, how can I help you? Nancy?
Speaker 5 (24:42):
My brother is terminal. He's a brother that you led
me to twenty five years ago that I didn't know
I had. So I thank you for that, and I
thank you for the twenty five years during the building
(25:05):
of our relationship we had talked about when the end
of our life came and you know, what we wanted
and all that kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Sure, and.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
We shared a lot about you. And now he's terminal.
He's in very bad condition, which I'm having a really
hard time understanding. He's such a good man.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Well, you know, people die, right, I know, I mean,
it's gonna it's sad at any time, but we understand
people do die, yes, So what is your question for me? Nancy?
Speaker 5 (25:56):
My question for you is excuse me end having a
difficult time when I talked to him and I found
out that he was terminal. He lives on one coast
(26:17):
side of one another, and I told him that I
would like to come back to see him, and he asked.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Me not to.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
And why is that? He didn't want you to come
visit him.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
He didn't want me to see him the way he is.
It's a very very very aggressive cancer and he's failing
really fast, and.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
You're worried that you don't want to keep that promise.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
He's told me several times since then. His family wants
me to come, and I think my family thinks I'm
bad because I'm respecting his wishes. I'm the selfish part
of me wants to go because I just want to
(27:19):
hug him and tell him I love him.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Sure, and I think it's actually a very selfish thing
for him to say that you can't visit him. But
people when they're in that state are feeling, you know,
all kinds of different types of pain and discomfort, and
it's strangely enough, some feel embarrassment too. It's a strange process.
(27:44):
I would say, Nancy, to to find out specifically if
and to let him know how important it is to
you that you want to come out there. And if
he says absolutely positively not and so be it. You
can respect that. But if their family, if his family
is asking you and you feel moved to, I don't
(28:06):
think that's a horrible thing to want to show your love.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
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