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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand. Chris,
Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Thank you Jesus. I want to ask you a question
about the Mormon religion, but I need to give you
a little backstory. In nineteen thirty eight, my mother got
pregnant and she was eighteen, so she gave up her
baby for adoption. Twelve years later, she had me when
she got married, and I thought I was an only child,
(00:33):
and she died ten years ago. Two years ago, I
got a message from a lady saying that my mother
and her mother were the same people. So I found
out I had a sister. She's a lovely lady. I've
gone to visit her. She's Mormon. She was raised in
the Mormon Church. So I've gone to their service. And
(00:54):
the grandson is in the ministry. What do you call it?
Were they mission? So they go to different places and
I do talk to him once a week with the
young man that he's with. I need to know what
your take on the Morman region is, because they believe
in you, and they believe in God, the same God
(01:16):
as far as I can tell, But there I don't know.
I don't know what you what do you think?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Well, normally on the program, it's not our focus to
you know, put down or do anything that causes ugliness
or division, because that's not the purpose of the show.
So normally we don't point out a particular belief system
unless it intertwines like yours does, into a question and
(01:43):
there's no way to separate it. So I want people
to understand this in the spirit in which it's intended.
This show is decidedly coming from a mainstream Judeo Christian perspective.
That means there will be beliefs systems like Mormonism or
Jehovah's Witnesses or different things like that that are believed
(02:08):
by mainstream Christianity to be outside of the fold of
traditional beliefs. So that means that they may use similar terms,
but the common belief is that they are outside of
mainstream Christianity. So I will tell you this, and that
(02:29):
is speaking specifically based on Scripture. They have other documents
and other books that are outside of what most Christians
to believe to be the Holy Scriptures, So that causes
issues for a Christian to have those other documents. Having
(02:49):
said that, that's academic. Going back to your question, what
I would say is separate your faith from the relationship
in the sense that if you go and you experience
h church with them, you're and services, it's a different experience.
(03:11):
It's an all day affair. Correct. Yeah, it's a whole
different experience that way. And and as long as you
continue to be prayerful and thoughtful about your own beliefs,
just enjoy each other, and you know you can do
(03:32):
the same thing and invite her to your church as well,
and to understand each other. But unless there's you know,
questions that you're going to go back and forth on
or things like that, just love one each other and
one another and enjoy the opportunity to connect. It's when
(03:52):
one it's if you want to stay strict and understanding
of your faith, then you have to understand that when
they say a word and you say the word, it
may be two different things. So even though it sounds
the same, I will tell you what an amazing group
(04:14):
of humans they are.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
They are in incredibly.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Loving and genuinely kind. And so I want to separate
these things because I think it's important the character of
the individuals, the heart of the individuals. You have to
take that and understand that it's theologically where there's differences
(04:40):
and they part ways as to who who they say
I am. You know, when people do formal debating, the
first thing you do behind the stage before everybody gets
out and has their time going back and forth, is
defining terms so that people don't get confused as to
(05:01):
what they mean. So if someone says Jesus and you
say Jesus, you go out. We both love Jesus, but
who is it.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Jesus is the same as mine, Jesus.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
But when you start getting into the theology, it's not
the same as mainstream Christian beliefs. Now having said that,
you can both be wrong, but you can't both be
right because there's contradictory beliefs. So that's all. But I
(05:31):
would say that the most important thing spend time with
your sister, learn about each other, learn about your family,
love one another, take care of each other, understand each
other's faith. Wonderful, yes, yeah, absolutely, and and and allow
that to be your differences and and that's fine, but
(05:56):
it doesn't change your love for one another, or the
enjoyment of connecting or any of those things. And just
you you can go in peace. Chris with that, but
there are differences that are important to mark. There really are.
It doesn't put them down as a people or people
of faith, or their hearts or any of those things.
(06:17):
And I don't want that to be heard because that's
not what I'm saying. I'm saying academically and theologically, they
are different. William, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Jesus A long time listener, and I really appreciate your insight.
I have a theological question that I have wrestled with
for quite some time now that I was hoping to
get your perspective on. Okay, So I believe that people
are born with an innate sense of right and wrong
(06:52):
in other words, and the nature or nurture. It's the
nature that they have a moral compass. Sure, So what
I wrestle with is why I don't feel any sense
of direction when I think about religion. In other words,
when I think about Jesus Christ. Why there's not something
(07:14):
inside of me which rings a bell or it does
anything for me? I mean, do I have a moral
deficiency or That's the theological question that I've wrestled with forever.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Basically, well, let's parse this a little bit So you're
saying everyone knows murder is wrong. They don't need to
be taught that correct. Is that what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Yes, I'm saying that basically people have an innate sense
of right and wrong. Okay, murder would be wrong.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Yeah, okay, So I think that's a fair assessment that
the basics are there. Don't steal, don't harm, And you
know this to be universal because even a murderer believes
murder is wrong. Strangely enough, try and murder them and
they'll stop you. So they just believe that somebody is
(08:15):
worth taking the it's worth taking their life for whatever
reason they've made up in their head. But they don't
believe murder is okay. People that steal don't believe stealing
is okay. Try and steal from them and they will
try and stop you. So yes, we'll give you that.
Now you're saying, why is there not the same guidance
(08:36):
with a god?
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Basically, yes, why don't I feel some internal direction, moral compass,
calling towards something with respect to you?
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Do you absolutely do? One, you wouldn't be calling, Two
you wouldn't be listening to the show, and three it
would it would you'd be indifferent towards it. You're not.
You continue to search. Now, what you're looking for, what
you think you're going to find, may be wrong. You know,
there are many people that try to seek God out
(09:12):
in certain locations on the planet or thinking they're going
to find God some way or somewhere, or it's going
to be some epiphany, and it's not like that necessarily.
And some people may have that epiphany, some people may
have a very powerful testimony something in their life that
motivated them, and others won't. So if you're looking for
(09:38):
is something to ping you, I don't know what that
might be. However, people seek God. Everyone seeks God. And
if they don't seek the capital G God, they seek
a lower case G God. They seek a God of science,
a God of understanding, a God of humanism. But people
(10:01):
seek God for a reason. They seek understanding about why
this is all here. Now you stop at the place saying, okay,
there's a moral compass, but stop there. Why don't you
ask why is there a moral compass? Why is it
wrong to murder? Why is it wrong to steal? Why
(10:24):
are anything any of those wrong? Where does that moral
compass come from? Is where you get stuck.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Yeah, So I do believe that there's a higher power,
but I can't quantify it. I can't identify it. I
can't say it's Christianity or Buddhism or anything. And that's
what I grapple with. Why if there is one true God,
there's not something that pulls us towards the one true God.
(10:53):
Why are there so many different religions?
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Well, quite honestly, that's just lazy at that point, William.
There's plenty of people that have gotten past the point
you are right now, that have done their studying, that
have looked and seen that they can't all be right
because they contradict each other. And to look at at anything.
(11:17):
Counterfeits are supposed to look like the real deal. So
if somebody handed you a counterfeit dollar bill, what would
you do? What would you look for? How would you
know whether it was real or not?
Speaker 3 (11:35):
That's the well experienced basically exactly, you know.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
That's how they It's said that they teach bank tellers
to understand the real deal. They have them count real money.
They don't teach them about counterfeiting necessarily, They just have
them count real money so that when a fake dollar
bill comes cross their fingers that just by touch they'll
know so. But you have to go through the process.
(11:59):
You ask yourself, does the paper feel right? It's a
type of cotton. Does it feel like that? Does it
feel sturdy? Is the ink raised? It's a proprietary ink?
Are their ridges on the illustrations? Is the watermark there?
Does it have the you know? These are the things
you have to test. Scripture says test all things, hold
(12:21):
fast to that which is true. You're not done testing,
that's all. You kind of look at it and you continue.
Some people ask the question over and over because they
don't want to answer. William, you have to ask the
question and then seek the answer, and you're stuck in
a place that a lot of people hang out in
because from here on out it takes real work. For
(12:46):
someone like yourself. Some people get it right away, just
comes to them. But for you, William, you got to dig.
You got to do the work, and you got to
find out what is the content of the paper of
a dollar bill, What is the content of the ink,
what are the blue and red fibers in the paper?
For all of these things or what you need to
(13:08):
ask to get to that next step. But that's on you. Pam,
Welcome to the Jesus Christ morning.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Good morning Jesus, thank you for your sacrifices, and thank
you for my life.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Praise God.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Yes, my question today is I've always believed that you
have written our day of death in our lifebook, whether
the journey is smooth or bumpy with accidents illness. Is
this true?
Speaker 1 (13:44):
It's a super duper human way of looking at things.
You know, there's a book in that physical sense or
that concept. Here's the thing. You can't ask a win
or where question of God. God isn't in one place right,
so you can't say where God's everywhere right. Likewise, you
(14:07):
can't say when, because God is in every moment. So
when it comes to questions like this, you have to
stretch the old brain and wrap it around some pretty
heavy concepts. And one of those is you've already died
to God.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
So God sees everything as one big fat thought. It's
like one all of it's all everything that will ever
happen has already happened. So this it gets even crazier.
If you will be in heaven, you already are in.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Heaven, okay, right?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Wow, uh huh isn't it. I mean, because God is
outside of time. There is no yesterday, today, and tomorrow
in heaven. So in that sense, everything that will happen
has happened in God's eyes. So it gets really complicated.
(15:09):
But the simple answer is God does know your death date, absolutely,
but it's not like it's written down in that sense.
Or this gets into free will, this gets into the
decisions you make, this gets into all kinds of things.
But the simplest way to look at it is it's
(15:32):
already happened in the eyes of God. But is it
written down in the sense that you know, people say
that all the time, if it's my time to go,
it's my time to go. Well, you can hasten that
time by making a choice today to take your own life,
(15:52):
and that would not be of God, that would not
be something God wanted.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Okay, and that was one of my questions. Yes, also
as if you choose to end your life, did you
step over God's plan?
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Of course? Okay, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Right.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
You know, when somebody chooses the path of suicide, they
are making the ultimate act of freedom that abolishes all
other acts of freedom. The pain that they feel if
they're desiring to end that pain does not end. It
(16:38):
simply gets passed on to family and friends. The pain
doesn't stop. So it's a very selfish act in that sense,
and I want that to be heard with the mercy,
the grace, and the compassion it's intended, because the reality
(17:00):
is is somebody imagine them trying to lift a weight
that they physically can't lift. Nobody judges them for that.
They go, Okay, they can't lift that weight, but people
don't understand that. Mentally, emotionally, there are times where people
feel they cannot lift that weight. And it could be chemical,
(17:21):
it could be all kinds of things, and in that
comes a very intense situation. Now, theologically, people will argue
that it is the one act you can do that
(17:42):
you can't repent from, which is necessary, right and therefore
it's an eternal decision. Okay, However, then we go back
to that crazy stuff we were talking about at the
beginning of the call. God being outside of time, can
(18:04):
expand a moment into a thousand years, and in that
point of decision making, no one knows if God is
in connection with that individual, his child mind you, and
connecting with them on some level that cannot be understood
(18:26):
by humans, and so in that point there is no
specific determination scripturally as to what would happen. Having said that,
I do not want that to be perceived as permission
(18:49):
to do that act anymore than if someone gave you
a gift pure of heart and you burned it in
front of them, that that would be acceptable, because the
gift of life is given by God and can only
be taken by God.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Yes, excuse me, and that gift is so precious.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Amen. Now is there is this an academic question or
is there something going on in your life?
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Pam, you know this is an academic question. I'm fine,
No suicide thoughts. I just you know, my thought for
many years has been that we have our day. And
that doesn't mean I can just live a reckless life,
because I'll be fine. But it's just something I think
(19:44):
about with people that you know, commit acts of murder
or get cancer or something. You know. But that's why
I'm asking.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Well, keep in mind that cancer itself is a privation.
It's a strange one because it's really about a multiplicity.
It starts to overproduce something, whereas we think of a
privation as an absence, something being taken away. It's the
control of growth that is taken away in that case.
(20:16):
So that is not something that was created by God.
That is because of human pollutants, and so God doesn't
wish that either on anyone. That is something that has
happened based on decisions of man to produce certain things,
whether it be chemical or pollution or these types of things,
(20:38):
or people making decisions to consume certain things, whether it
be cigarettes or chewing tobacco, or alcohol or anything else
that might be and the use or sometimes abuse of
these things or what can cause problems and so on
(20:58):
and so forth. God doesn't desire that either or people
to go down that path. That is a path that
humans have created through living and making decisions on their own.
So all of those things, and it's the free will
of the individual to make those decisions in Hasten. But
(21:19):
there's no guarantees on any length of life for anyone.
That's an assumption based on mathematics is that scientists will
look and they'll say, Okay, the average lifespan is this,
But what does average mean based to an individual? You're
going to live as long as you live, Pam, not
(21:39):
as long as someone else lives. And so those averages
are mathematics and don't necessarily tie into a specific reality
for each individual person. That's you know, that happens based
on other circumstances. So in this particular case, academically, yes,
(22:03):
God knows the decisions that have been made by everyone
already for the entirety and their life. And that's that's
where it gets kind of confusing.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
Yes, but thank you gave me so much more to
think about.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
No, I don't know if that's a good thing or
bad thing, but I.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
Hope it is. No, it settles a lot in my mind.
As I said, not to go live a reckless life.
I'm just curious.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Well, God calls you in scripture to be a living sacrifice. Yes,
I did the dying, so you don't have to. When
that day comes, it should be wrapped up nicely and
a gift to go home to be with the Father.
(22:52):
Let's talk to Kelly. Kelly, welcome to the Jesus Christ. Hi.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
Hello, Yes you're Ella.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
M Hello, going deep into the Hebrew. I appreciate it.
How can I help you?
Speaker 5 (23:05):
Yes, there was a collar that asked about how the
different races came about, and he discussed with her that
after Noah and his three sons and their wives had
(23:26):
disembarked from the arc around the mountains of air Rat
that each each one of the sons when they went
to their specific geographical locations, that were a period of
time that they had taken on. You know, just just
more than the skin color, but the you know, the
thickness of the lips, the texture of the hair, the
(23:47):
skeletal muscle structure. How many years would you say that
it will take for all those changes to occur.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Well, first of all, I want to correct what you heard.
That's not exactly right. First of all, there's no such
thing as race. It's completely man made. There's no scientific
basis for race at all. There's one race, the human race. Period.
Color comes from melanin, and there is technically only one
(24:18):
color of people too. It's melanin, and there's some people
with less of it, some people with more of it.
So what you're talking about is adaptations, and those can
be looked at that which is more based on tribal separation.
In the story in which you were talking about, that's
(24:41):
a tribalization of people finding their own cultures and things
like that. There's a secondary look when you're talking about
the Tower of Babel or Babble where it looks at
another concept of separating people in and having different languages.
That story has a specific focus. So let's look at
it as a larger view the.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
Category you probably hundreds of years or what little beat it.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
No, so let's look at let's look at things in
UH in the bringing in science. So when you talk
about race that doesn't exist. There's no genetics, there's nothing
that's human categorization that is man made, man made. The
(25:30):
man came along and said, okay, well, let's categorize these
types of people. There aren't It's only one people and
uh folks get lost in culture, the cultures of people,
but genetically scientifically one people. Different levels of melanin and
(25:51):
different cultures and adaptations based on areas. Now, as far
as how long that takes is different. You can walk out.
Some people can walk out in the sun and their
melanin will change in the sun immediately. Now it would
go away after the sunny season. When it comes to
adaptation or changes in hair or body modifications and adaptations,
(26:19):
like Inuit people will have layers of fat in the
eyelids that are different and that is to protect from
colder weather or certain things like that. You talk about
the change in the broadness of someone's nose or the
type of hair, and this gets into adaptations based on
(26:43):
a longevity of a people in a particular area or
things like that. That's adaptation, but nothing changes genetically in
the sense of a race. You're talking about physical adaptations
to surroundings, but that's not about creating a race or
a new race popping up based on those things. That's
(27:06):
nowhere in a man made sense. Everybody wants to define others,
and as much as people desire to connect, they also
desire to separate one another, which is when those characterizing
people and trying to make sense actually, strangely enough, is
(27:28):
the first form of racism. It's trying to separate one
another because a lack of understanding in what culture is
versus the human themselves. So a lot of people don't
think about that, But there is there is no race genetically,
(27:50):
you couldn't. You can look at certain features and say
this person might be darker, or this person might be
from a different part of the world or a cultures
based on things that they ate or did or lived
in surroundings, but as far as the human genome and
unraveling it, everyone is identical in that sense. The others
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are just adaptations to regions.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
KFI AM six on demand
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand. Chris,
Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Thank you Jesus. I want to ask you a question
about the Mormon religion, but I need to give you
a little backstory. In nineteen thirty eight, my mother got
pregnant and she was eighteen, so she gave up her
baby for adoption. Twelve years later, she had me when
she got married, and I thought I was an only child,
(00:33):
and she died ten years ago. Two years ago, I
got a message from a lady saying that my mother
and her mother were the same people. So I found
out I had a sister. She's a lovely lady. I've
gone to visit her. She's Mormon. She was raised in
the Mormon Church. So I've gone to their service. And
(00:54):
the grandson is in the ministry. What do you call it?
Were they mission? So they go to different places and
I do talk to him once a week with the
young man that he's with. I need to know what
your take on the Morman region is, because they believe
in you, and they believe in God, the same God
(01:16):
as far as I can tell, But there I don't know.
I don't know what you what do you think?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Well, normally on the program, it's not our focus to
you know, put down or do anything that causes ugliness
or division, because that's not the purpose of the show.
So normally we don't point out a particular belief system
unless it intertwines like yours does, into a question and
(01:43):
there's no way to separate it. So I want people
to understand this in the spirit in which it's intended.
This show is decidedly coming from a mainstream Judeo Christian perspective.
That means there will be beliefs systems like Mormonism or
Jehovah's Witnesses or different things like that that are believed
(02:08):
by mainstream Christianity to be outside of the fold of
traditional beliefs. So that means that they may use similar terms,
but the common belief is that they are outside of
mainstream Christianity. So I will tell you this, and that
(02:29):
is speaking specifically based on Scripture. They have other documents
and other books that are outside of what most Christians
to believe to be the Holy Scriptures, So that causes
issues for a Christian to have those other documents. Having
(02:49):
said that, that's academic. Going back to your question, what
I would say is separate your faith from the relationship
in the sense that if you go and you experience
h church with them, you're and services, it's a different experience.
(03:11):
It's an all day affair. Correct. Yeah, it's a whole
different experience that way. And and as long as you
continue to be prayerful and thoughtful about your own beliefs,
just enjoy each other, and you know you can do
(03:32):
the same thing and invite her to your church as well,
and to understand each other. But unless there's you know,
questions that you're going to go back and forth on
or things like that, just love one each other and
one another and enjoy the opportunity to connect. It's when
(03:52):
one it's if you want to stay strict and understanding
of your faith, then you have to understand that when
they say a word and you say the word, it
may be two different things. So even though it sounds
the same, I will tell you what an amazing group
(04:14):
of humans they are.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
They are in incredibly.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Loving and genuinely kind. And so I want to separate
these things because I think it's important the character of
the individuals, the heart of the individuals. You have to
take that and understand that it's theologically where there's differences
(04:40):
and they part ways as to who who they say
I am. You know, when people do formal debating, the
first thing you do behind the stage before everybody gets
out and has their time going back and forth, is
defining terms so that people don't get confused as to
(05:01):
what they mean. So if someone says Jesus and you
say Jesus, you go out. We both love Jesus, but
who is it.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Jesus is the same as mine, Jesus.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
But when you start getting into the theology, it's not
the same as mainstream Christian beliefs. Now having said that,
you can both be wrong, but you can't both be
right because there's contradictory beliefs. So that's all. But I
(05:31):
would say that the most important thing spend time with
your sister, learn about each other, learn about your family,
love one another, take care of each other, understand each
other's faith. Wonderful, yes, yeah, absolutely, and and and allow
that to be your differences and and that's fine, but
(05:56):
it doesn't change your love for one another, or the
enjoyment of connecting or any of those things. And just
you you can go in peace. Chris with that, but
there are differences that are important to mark. There really are.
It doesn't put them down as a people or people
of faith, or their hearts or any of those things.
(06:17):
And I don't want that to be heard because that's
not what I'm saying. I'm saying academically and theologically, they
are different. William, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Jesus A long time listener, and I really appreciate your insight.
I have a theological question that I have wrestled with
for quite some time now that I was hoping to
get your perspective on. Okay, So I believe that people
are born with an innate sense of right and wrong
(06:52):
in other words, and the nature or nurture. It's the
nature that they have a moral compass. Sure, So what
I wrestle with is why I don't feel any sense
of direction when I think about religion. In other words,
when I think about Jesus Christ. Why there's not something
(07:14):
inside of me which rings a bell or it does
anything for me? I mean, do I have a moral
deficiency or That's the theological question that I've wrestled with forever.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Basically, well, let's parse this a little bit So you're
saying everyone knows murder is wrong. They don't need to
be taught that correct. Is that what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Yes, I'm saying that basically people have an innate sense
of right and wrong. Okay, murder would be wrong.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Yeah, okay, So I think that's a fair assessment that
the basics are there. Don't steal, don't harm, And you
know this to be universal because even a murderer believes
murder is wrong. Strangely enough, try and murder them and
they'll stop you. So they just believe that somebody is
(08:15):
worth taking the it's worth taking their life for whatever
reason they've made up in their head. But they don't
believe murder is okay. People that steal don't believe stealing
is okay. Try and steal from them and they will
try and stop you. So yes, we'll give you that.
Now you're saying, why is there not the same guidance
(08:36):
with a god?
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Basically, yes, why don't I feel some internal direction, moral compass,
calling towards something with respect to you?
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Do you absolutely do? One, you wouldn't be calling, Two
you wouldn't be listening to the show, and three it
would it would you'd be indifferent towards it. You're not.
You continue to search. Now, what you're looking for, what
you think you're going to find, may be wrong. You know,
there are many people that try to seek God out
(09:12):
in certain locations on the planet or thinking they're going
to find God some way or somewhere, or it's going
to be some epiphany, and it's not like that necessarily.
And some people may have that epiphany, some people may
have a very powerful testimony something in their life that
motivated them, and others won't. So if you're looking for
(09:38):
is something to ping you, I don't know what that
might be. However, people seek God. Everyone seeks God. And
if they don't seek the capital G God, they seek
a lower case G God. They seek a God of science,
a God of understanding, a God of humanism. But people
(10:01):
seek God for a reason. They seek understanding about why
this is all here. Now you stop at the place saying, okay,
there's a moral compass, but stop there. Why don't you
ask why is there a moral compass? Why is it
wrong to murder? Why is it wrong to steal? Why
(10:24):
are anything any of those wrong? Where does that moral
compass come from? Is where you get stuck.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Yeah, So I do believe that there's a higher power,
but I can't quantify it. I can't identify it. I
can't say it's Christianity or Buddhism or anything. And that's
what I grapple with. Why if there is one true God,
there's not something that pulls us towards the one true God.
(10:53):
Why are there so many different religions?
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Well, quite honestly, that's just lazy at that point, William.
There's plenty of people that have gotten past the point
you are right now, that have done their studying, that
have looked and seen that they can't all be right
because they contradict each other. And to look at at anything.
(11:17):
Counterfeits are supposed to look like the real deal. So
if somebody handed you a counterfeit dollar bill, what would
you do? What would you look for? How would you
know whether it was real or not?
Speaker 3 (11:35):
That's the well experienced basically exactly, you know.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
That's how they It's said that they teach bank tellers
to understand the real deal. They have them count real money.
They don't teach them about counterfeiting necessarily, They just have
them count real money so that when a fake dollar
bill comes cross their fingers that just by touch they'll
know so. But you have to go through the process.
(11:59):
You ask yourself, does the paper feel right? It's a
type of cotton. Does it feel like that? Does it
feel sturdy? Is the ink raised? It's a proprietary ink?
Are their ridges on the illustrations? Is the watermark there?
Does it have the you know? These are the things
you have to test. Scripture says test all things, hold
(12:21):
fast to that which is true. You're not done testing,
that's all. You kind of look at it and you continue.
Some people ask the question over and over because they
don't want to answer. William, you have to ask the
question and then seek the answer, and you're stuck in
a place that a lot of people hang out in
because from here on out it takes real work. For
(12:46):
someone like yourself. Some people get it right away, just
comes to them. But for you, William, you got to dig.
You got to do the work, and you got to
find out what is the content of the paper of
a dollar bill, What is the content of the ink,
what are the blue and red fibers in the paper?
For all of these things or what you need to
(13:08):
ask to get to that next step. But that's on you. Pam,
Welcome to the Jesus Christ morning.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Good morning Jesus, thank you for your sacrifices, and thank
you for my life.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Praise God.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Yes, my question today is I've always believed that you
have written our day of death in our lifebook, whether
the journey is smooth or bumpy with accidents illness. Is
this true?
Speaker 1 (13:44):
It's a super duper human way of looking at things.
You know, there's a book in that physical sense or
that concept. Here's the thing. You can't ask a win
or where question of God. God isn't in one place right,
so you can't say where God's everywhere right. Likewise, you
(14:07):
can't say when, because God is in every moment. So
when it comes to questions like this, you have to
stretch the old brain and wrap it around some pretty
heavy concepts. And one of those is you've already died
to God.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
So God sees everything as one big fat thought. It's
like one all of it's all everything that will ever
happen has already happened. So this it gets even crazier.
If you will be in heaven, you already are in.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Heaven, okay, right?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Wow, uh huh isn't it. I mean, because God is
outside of time. There is no yesterday, today, and tomorrow
in heaven. So in that sense, everything that will happen
has happened in God's eyes. So it gets really complicated.
(15:09):
But the simple answer is God does know your death date, absolutely,
but it's not like it's written down in that sense.
Or this gets into free will, this gets into the
decisions you make, this gets into all kinds of things.
But the simplest way to look at it is it's
(15:32):
already happened in the eyes of God. But is it
written down in the sense that you know, people say
that all the time, if it's my time to go,
it's my time to go. Well, you can hasten that
time by making a choice today to take your own life,
(15:52):
and that would not be of God, that would not
be something God wanted.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Okay, and that was one of my questions. Yes, also
as if you choose to end your life, did you
step over God's plan?
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Of course? Okay, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Right.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
You know, when somebody chooses the path of suicide, they
are making the ultimate act of freedom that abolishes all
other acts of freedom. The pain that they feel if
they're desiring to end that pain does not end. It
(16:38):
simply gets passed on to family and friends. The pain
doesn't stop. So it's a very selfish act in that sense,
and I want that to be heard with the mercy,
the grace, and the compassion it's intended, because the reality
(17:00):
is is somebody imagine them trying to lift a weight
that they physically can't lift. Nobody judges them for that.
They go, Okay, they can't lift that weight, but people
don't understand that. Mentally, emotionally, there are times where people
feel they cannot lift that weight. And it could be chemical,
(17:21):
it could be all kinds of things, and in that
comes a very intense situation. Now, theologically, people will argue
that it is the one act you can do that
(17:42):
you can't repent from, which is necessary, right and therefore
it's an eternal decision. Okay, However, then we go back
to that crazy stuff we were talking about at the
beginning of the call. God being outside of time, can
(18:04):
expand a moment into a thousand years, and in that
point of decision making, no one knows if God is
in connection with that individual, his child mind you, and
connecting with them on some level that cannot be understood
(18:26):
by humans, and so in that point there is no
specific determination scripturally as to what would happen. Having said that,
I do not want that to be perceived as permission
(18:49):
to do that act anymore than if someone gave you
a gift pure of heart and you burned it in
front of them, that that would be acceptable, because the
gift of life is given by God and can only
be taken by God.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Yes, excuse me, and that gift is so precious.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Amen. Now is there is this an academic question or
is there something going on in your life?
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Pam, you know this is an academic question. I'm fine,
No suicide thoughts. I just you know, my thought for
many years has been that we have our day. And
that doesn't mean I can just live a reckless life,
because I'll be fine. But it's just something I think
(19:44):
about with people that you know, commit acts of murder
or get cancer or something. You know. But that's why
I'm asking.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Well, keep in mind that cancer itself is a privation.
It's a strange one because it's really about a multiplicity.
It starts to overproduce something, whereas we think of a
privation as an absence, something being taken away. It's the
control of growth that is taken away in that case.
(20:16):
So that is not something that was created by God.
That is because of human pollutants, and so God doesn't
wish that either on anyone. That is something that has
happened based on decisions of man to produce certain things,
whether it be chemical or pollution or these types of things,
(20:38):
or people making decisions to consume certain things, whether it
be cigarettes or chewing tobacco, or alcohol or anything else
that might be and the use or sometimes abuse of
these things or what can cause problems and so on
(20:58):
and so forth. God doesn't desire that either or people
to go down that path. That is a path that
humans have created through living and making decisions on their own.
So all of those things, and it's the free will
of the individual to make those decisions in Hasten. But
(21:19):
there's no guarantees on any length of life for anyone.
That's an assumption based on mathematics is that scientists will
look and they'll say, Okay, the average lifespan is this,
But what does average mean based to an individual? You're
going to live as long as you live, Pam, not
(21:39):
as long as someone else lives. And so those averages
are mathematics and don't necessarily tie into a specific reality
for each individual person. That's you know, that happens based
on other circumstances. So in this particular case, academically, yes,
(22:03):
God knows the decisions that have been made by everyone
already for the entirety and their life. And that's that's
where it gets kind of confusing.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
Yes, but thank you gave me so much more to
think about.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
No, I don't know if that's a good thing or
bad thing, but I.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
Hope it is. No, it settles a lot in my mind.
As I said, not to go live a reckless life.
I'm just curious.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Well, God calls you in scripture to be a living sacrifice. Yes,
I did the dying, so you don't have to. When
that day comes, it should be wrapped up nicely and
a gift to go home to be with the Father.
(22:52):
Let's talk to Kelly. Kelly, welcome to the Jesus Christ. Hi.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
Hello, Yes you're Ella.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
M Hello, going deep into the Hebrew. I appreciate it.
How can I help you?
Speaker 5 (23:05):
Yes, there was a collar that asked about how the
different races came about, and he discussed with her that
after Noah and his three sons and their wives had
(23:26):
disembarked from the arc around the mountains of air Rat
that each each one of the sons when they went
to their specific geographical locations, that were a period of
time that they had taken on. You know, just just
more than the skin color, but the you know, the
thickness of the lips, the texture of the hair, the
(23:47):
skeletal muscle structure. How many years would you say that
it will take for all those changes to occur.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Well, first of all, I want to correct what you heard.
That's not exactly right. First of all, there's no such
thing as race. It's completely man made. There's no scientific
basis for race at all. There's one race, the human race. Period.
Color comes from melanin, and there is technically only one
(24:18):
color of people too. It's melanin, and there's some people
with less of it, some people with more of it.
So what you're talking about is adaptations, and those can
be looked at that which is more based on tribal separation.
In the story in which you were talking about, that's
(24:41):
a tribalization of people finding their own cultures and things
like that. There's a secondary look when you're talking about
the Tower of Babel or Babble where it looks at
another concept of separating people in and having different languages.
That story has a specific focus. So let's look at
it as a larger view the.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
Category you probably hundreds of years or what little beat it.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
No, so let's look at let's look at things in
UH in the bringing in science. So when you talk
about race that doesn't exist. There's no genetics, there's nothing
that's human categorization that is man made, man made. The
(25:30):
man came along and said, okay, well, let's categorize these
types of people. There aren't It's only one people and
uh folks get lost in culture, the cultures of people,
but genetically scientifically one people. Different levels of melanin and
(25:51):
different cultures and adaptations based on areas. Now, as far
as how long that takes is different. You can walk out.
Some people can walk out in the sun and their
melanin will change in the sun immediately. Now it would
go away after the sunny season. When it comes to
adaptation or changes in hair or body modifications and adaptations,
(26:19):
like Inuit people will have layers of fat in the
eyelids that are different and that is to protect from
colder weather or certain things like that. You talk about
the change in the broadness of someone's nose or the
type of hair, and this gets into adaptations based on
(26:43):
a longevity of a people in a particular area or
things like that. That's adaptation, but nothing changes genetically in
the sense of a race. You're talking about physical adaptations
to surroundings, but that's not about creating a race or
a new race popping up based on those things. That's
(27:06):
nowhere in a man made sense. Everybody wants to define others,
and as much as people desire to connect, they also
desire to separate one another, which is when those characterizing
people and trying to make sense actually, strangely enough, is
(27:28):
the first form of racism. It's trying to separate one
another because a lack of understanding in what culture is
versus the human themselves. So a lot of people don't
think about that, But there is there is no race genetically,
(27:50):
you couldn't. You can look at certain features and say
this person might be darker, or this person might be
from a different part of the world or a cultures
based on things that they ate or did or lived
in surroundings, but as far as the human genome and
unraveling it, everyone is identical in that sense. The others
(28:14):
are just adaptations to regions.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
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