May 10, 2026 • 27 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to KFI A six on demand.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Suzanne, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Hi Jesus, Hi there. I have a life situation that's
lasted about thirty eight years now, and you'd think by
now that I would have learned how to handle it better.
I still find myself being drawn into the drama of
it all, and I just find it realiant healthy to
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do that. I have trouble knowing at this point in
time where my role starts and stops. And it's regarding
my youngest daughter, who was born ill and there were
three other kids older than her and she from the
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time she was born, it was in the hospital, out
of the hospital, you know, over and over again. My
other kids went to babysitters. Every the drama always happened
and revolved around her. As she got older, she got
into drugs. Even with her she had liver transplants and
even with her meds, and she got on drugs and
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then all the resources get sent to help her, you know,
she's like eighteen, gets off, you know, to get off
of that, and then she decides to have a child.
Never been married, and when the child, my oldest granddaughter
was fifteen, she was on her way to Julie Hall
and brought her here into this house and she did graduate.
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She's doing really well. Now, she's nineteen. And during the
time when I first had my daughter, sorry, my granddaughter here,
within a year and a half she's living in another state.
My daughter is and has another child, and it's you know,
I just get so angry. And at this point in time,
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she is still now like starting over six forks, six spoons,
six knives and eating on the kitchen floor. And you know,
I still think, oh, if I did this, if I
did that, you know, but I can't do it anymore.
And it exhausts me. You know, It's like, oh, she
needs a computer. Well, you know, I've done a computer before.
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I know what happened to that computer. You know what
I'm saying, it's and and so I find myself like
talking to my husband and saying, oh, this happened with her,
and and I find myself talking for an hour and
a half. It's a perfectly good night, and everything's fine,
and I'm involved in her drama, and you know, and
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then also I get accused of being guilty, like sometimes
not very often, but my granddaughter, who is doing very
well now and she finds that I put up a
boundary and she says, she says, Grandma, that's not that's
not very nice. That's you're being selfish, and you know
I'm not anyway, I would just like hear from you,
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you know, number one, where what is expected of me
at this point in time and what I should And
also when I pray for her, what should my purse
sound like?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Well, you can't. You can't live life for someone. They're
not a puppet, They're a human being, and you're you
raise them. This this is what you raised. This is
the result of both what you and your husband have
done and then the free will of the individual and
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what they want to do with that information. They can
either use it as you've seen. You've seen those that
that you've raised and that have taken that information and
done good with it, and there's others that that didn't.
But as far as living for them or trying to
you know, correct every mistake, I want you to get
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the picture. You know the concept of teaching a child
to ride a bike and you see the parent holding
onto the back of the seat, running alongside and then
eventually they let go. Well, what you've done essentially is
stayed holding onto the back of that seat, running alongside.
It's never going to work. It can't work. The child
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will never ever learn, even at thirty nine, how to
be on their own. And you can't pick up all
the pieces. You have to allow whatever consequences to come
her way come her way. You just you can't overparent somebody.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
And to a lot of extent, I've done that. I mean,
she's been in homeless shelters, she's you know, I've held back,
but it's I don't know, I just sometimes I'll get
so angry, you know, like she'll call me about a
about something that's happened, or that something's happened with a
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job or whatever. And you know, I've said to her,
I can't own your problems. I cannot own your problems,
you know. And and to that extent I've been able
to I mean, I've been able to not give her
money and let her be in homeless shelters and letter
for your way out.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
What do you think the problem is?
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Why?
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Why do you think she was unable to use the
you know, the tools you gave her.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
My feeling is that when she was sick, when she
was little, she was very blue, and she went a
couple of years being blue, and she developed a shunt.
I really think there's a mental deficits. I believe that
she is and has these mental deficits. She can't critically think.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Well, when you say she was blue, was she depressed.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
And deprived oxygen?
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Oh, so you're saying she had a.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Shunt, a shunt that took blood away from her lungs
and because of her liver problems, and it developed over
a couple of years where she's only like oxygenating a
couple like half of her bloody.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
So you think she's she's got has issues, she has
special needs.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Then I think that she refuses, you know, she says
child when I say, you know, I really like complete
psychiatric testing, just complete, get it done, you know. And
she's old enough or I can't drag her, you know,
And and I just I said, I really think that
if you do this, you could go on, you know,
get some some sort of assistance. I mean, she's got
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every kind of assistance now in the world, but really
maybe long term disability. And that she refuses. She says,
you just think I'm retarded, you know, And so she
resists that too. But that's if she's impulsive and she
can she can learn, like like read, go through a
natomy book, get an a the test, but when it
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comes to deciding if she has an money to last
from here to there, she can't do it.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
But she's never she's never formally been diagnosed with anything.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Well, her liver disease and then she had thyroid cancer,
and you know, she's she's.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Just she's had a rough go of it.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Yeah, and that's I think that's part of it. And
so you know, it's like still the drama. It's like
all my other kids go, yeah, yeah, yeah, we know,
we know what's new, you know, because they always know
it's something about her what's going on. And that's why
part of it is the illness thing. But I can't
do anything about it. I mean, she takes her medicine.
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I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
I got all families some wisdom, Well, all families have
someone who get needs more attention. Now, the physical things,
the stuff that's physiologically going on with her is a
little different. That's that's things that she couldn't necessarily control,
and that as a parent, there is needs there that
you should be there for. That's just the way things work. However,
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if she wants anything from you, there's nothing wrong for you, Suzanne,
to put your contingencies on it. Say I can't do
this anymore. I'm limited in what I can do. But
what I will do is if you're willing to go
and have a full psychiatric work up, if we can
look and see if there's anything else that we're missing
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that might help you remain focused or whatever it is.
Then if you're willing to do that, then I'm willing
to help you to this point. If not, then I'm
not going to. You don't have to do all the
lifting for her. In other words, really it should be
a beautiful combination of your strength in hers when you're
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helping anybody, actually, and if it's not, if you're doing
all the lifting, you don't need to do that. Helping
somebody is helping them that partial way, that little bit
over that they can't do on their own. Maybe, but
you can't do it all for her. So you have
to make it very clear, Listen, I'm happy to help,
but these are the rules. So when you set boundaries,
you may see them as just shutting her off or
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saying I won't do this, And maybe that's the thing
that's making it difficult for you. So what I want
you to do is modify those boundaries with contingencies. Sure,
it's not no, because it's yes. If you know the difference,
you hear that very clear. So that's what I want
you to think about. It's not no because I'm not
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doing this anymore. It's yes. I'll be happy to if
you get this diagnosed or done. So that's the new
rule for you. Can you think you can imply that?
Speaker 3 (09:39):
I think so, yeah, that's helpful.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
I think you can too. And you just go in
peace and just pray for strength. That's what you need
to pray for strength for you to be able to
help her. Helping people, helping loved ones, helping family. I
want you to to visualize certain things. If they were
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doing something that harmed them, it's very easy. If they said,
you know, hold my arm while I cut these markings
into it with this knife, you wouldn't do it. And
you look at these things, and in some situations it's
just so easy. It's simple. You can see it right
in front of you. No, I don't want to participate
in helping them do that, but unfortunately life is a
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little more nuanced than that, and that means that people
will ask for help to harm themselves in different ways
that are more difficult to discern that they're actually harmful.
And that's where you have to make decisions that might
be uncomfortable or difficult, especially especially as a parent, that
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you have to look at what someone's doing to themselves,
doing to their family, whatever it might be, and take
a strong star ants And it won't feel great. It
may make you uncomfortable, it may make you sad, it
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may make you feel like you're abandoning the individual, but
it's not the case. That is not the case because
you have to set certain boundaries to help people grow
and or establish new habits that are better for them
than the habits they're practicing currently. It's not going to
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be easy, but it will be worth it if you
can help teach somebody something. You have to stay strong
when you get to that point of enabling somebody or
being that person who's just saying yes, you'd be surprised
how similar it is to saying yes to helping them
cut themselves with a knife. Marty, Welcome to the Jesus
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Christ Show. Hello Jesus, Well, Hi a Marty.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
Honor and a pleasure to speak to you, sir.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
I have a pleasure. How can I help you?
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Well, I just I was wondering in regards to Mary.
I know that you know, you had mentioned that Mary
was poor, and but I Jesus was connected to David
through Joseph's lineage, Yes, David, And so if that's the case,
how is it that Joseph was was poor? I mean
if he was related to you know, the king of Israel,
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and and uh, you know, I'm just wondering how, you know,
you know, what might have happened in between King David,
you know, and uh Herod? You know, from King David
to Herod Jesus's.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Time, Well, you're talking about a long period of time,
for one, and you know, there was a number of people.
It's not like I was the only one that was
a descendant. There's many people. And there's a length, a
large length and period of time between David's reign and
that particular time. As a matter of fact, you could
tell that there was no king of Israel at that time.
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You had Roman rule. So there's obviously a massive amount
of change that took place between the time of David
and two thousand years ago when I walked this earth.
It's just major, major difference. You can be a descendant
of all kinds of people here in the United States.
Doesn't mean that you have any money.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Absolutely, I see. And so that just fulfilled prophecy, correct,
because there was a prophecy that said, you know, you
would be discindised from David.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Yes, tewod Samuel seven twelve through fifteen talks about that necessity.
And it's really not about the just the physical lineage.
I know that comes up a lot, but throughout scripture.
There's about seventeen different verses in the New Testament alone
that described me as the son of David. And it's
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more than just that that lineage. It's it's really a title.
It's about that title. It's about fulfilling the prophecy more
than it is about you know, tracking down my family heritage.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Yeah, I see, Jesus, I apologize, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
You do apologize. It's a great question, it really is,
because you'd think, where did that money go? Where does
you know where you've got royalty? At one point and
then all of a sudden you don't. But there's a
long period of time and things change. As I said,
that the even the entire structure was gone by that point,
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and now you had Roman rule, so a lot had
changed in that time period that had caused the You know,
it wasn't a matter of money being passed down. You're
talking about many generations. If you go through and look
at Matthew one, or you go through and you look
at Luke three, you see that that's a good chunk
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of distance between the two. And I know that can
get confusing sometimes, but really, again, it's not just about
the physical line of David. It's really about that title
and what that title means. And there's many conversations that
take place as well. As a matter of fact, there
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are conversations I had with the scribes and the Pharisees
in regards to this. They were always trying to trip
me up.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
You know.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
They would ask me questions and try and get me
to answer in hopes that I would upset people with
my answer.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
And.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
In a way I would do the same to them,
not so much to trip them up as much as
it was to show them that the way they processed
thought and their questions and the things that they did,
Marty were really based on hypocrisy or lack of information,
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and they weren't as smart as they thought they were.
And so there's times in scripture where I'm talking to
the scribes and the Pharisees and I'm asking them those
very questions. I'm saying, well, isn't it interesting that you
say that I am the son of David? You get
that concept of the son of David. Yet and that
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the Messiah was to be the son of David come
from that lineage. However, that even David in Psalm one
ten one refers to him as his lord. So I
would ask the Pharisees and the scribes, okay, so even
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the son of David, the Messiah, even the son of David,
is referred to as lord by David, showing the obvious
confusion that would come from well, wait a second, is
he the son of David? Or is he the Lord
of David? And because there's meaning to these things rather
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than just the concept, every time I would say something,
people would get confused based on well, what does that mean?
Is it for the physical or is it for the spiritual?
When I am in conversation with Nicodemus about an often
misunderstood term being born again, that is not a Protestant denomination.
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Being born again is a spiritual transformation that every Christian,
whether you're Catholic or Protestant, must go through. And sometimes
it's translated as begotten from above. But that term confused Nicodemus,
and he's like, well, let me get this straight. Are
we supposed to go into our mother's womb and be
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born a second time? But it wasn't about the physical experience.
It was about the spiritual experience. That humans need to
be born twice. They need to be born first to
the flesh, and second they have to have a spiritual birth.
And yes, humans will have two deaths as well, maybe
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because they can have a physical death and if they
haven't rejected God and God's will, then they won't have
to go through a spiritual death. But if they have
rejected God and God's will, they'll go through a spiritual death.
So often these things are understood both in the physical
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realm and the spiritual realm. So physically, there were some
that say, so it's just about the lineage, what does
that mean? And then there were other times where I
had to get them to see that it wasn't just
about the physical lineage. It was about the spiritual and
about the title. And on a day like today, a
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lot of people think about, you know, parentage and where
they come from and how they were raised, celebrating that,
celebrating individuals in their life that were part of that.
And there is something too where you've come from. Now
it can define you to a certain degree. There are
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things that you learn about yourself through those that raised you.
But ultimately you're an individual. Ultimately you're your own person,
and you define who you are based on those tools
that are given to you. Taking many a phone calls
from parents who are frustrated with their children and adult
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children maybe say well, you know, I don't know what
to do. What do I do? Do I sit them down?
Do I tell them about this? Because they're concerned about
some path they're on in their life or something that
they're doing in their life. And really the best you
can do is to give tools to your children. You
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pass along tools to them, and you give them the
ability to use those tools as they see fit. You
can't control them, you can't live their life for them.
That concept of the helicopter parenting where you're hovering over
your child all the time, trying to live for them
that doesn't build tools, builds a safety net, maybe, but
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it doesn't give them the tools that they need to
actually learn to understand how to deal with their own life.
So you give them these tools, you pass them along,
and you hope that they utilize them in a way
that will build strength and confidence and abilities to make
decisions and to use discernment so they don't get caught
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up with the wrong people or in the wrong situations,
or walking down the wrong path. And everybody has gone
down the wrong path to some degree. It's one of
the ways you learn about the right path, right. But
in that process of experimentation, in that process of learning
and about yourself having those tools, the gift, the ultimate
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gift of a parent is going to be key. The
best gift you can give to a child is not
the gift of overparenting. It's not the gift of this
huge safety net. It's not the gift of wrapping your
child in bubble wrap. I love this concept of childproofing
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where people come in and they try and child proof
of home, and I realized there are sharp corners and
chemicals and things that need to be locked up and
cared for. All that's great, but the concept of you
ever childproofing anything. With the curiosity of a young mind
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and the desire to learn to know things, you can't
child proof everything just won't ever work. But what you
can do is you can teach, and you can impart,
and you can give these tools the children so that
as they grow, they will continually carry them around with
them and learn to utilize them to the best of
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their abilities, based on the guidance that you've given them,
so that they can go through every type of concern
or doorway or situation in life and come out the
other end knowing that it's not just about you being
there for them, but they're being well equipped with the
tools that you gave them. Grace, Welcome to the Jesus Christia.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
My question is in after Peter said you are the Messiah,
the son of Living God, then he said, Jesus says,
I will give you the keys of the King in heaven.
I think I understand that, But the last part of
what was said, I don't understand. Whatever you forbid on earth,
or loose or bind will be forbidden in heaven. Whatever
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you permit will be permitted in heaven. Does that mean
that we have Peter would have an influence or we
would have an influence on much goes on in heaven.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
No, not necessarily. This is often misunderstood, so I mean,
don't feel bad about that. A lot of people ask
about this because of it seems the way it's written
makes it appear as if you're right, whatever takes place
on earth is going to take place in heaven. And
like in the Lord's Prayer when it talks about those things,
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that really it's talking about them them jiving with each other.
So if they're done in the proper authority, the key
obviously being a sign of authority that in the language
of our Jewish brothers and sisters, the context really shows
that it's forbidden or allowing. It's about someone judging things,
and if they're judging properly or they're teaching properly that
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which is lawful or unlawful, then it will match that
which is lawful and unlawful in heaven. So it's basically
saying that if somebody is in that state of holding
the key, which is really a symbol of being a
person of power and authority in the church, somebody who
is dedicated to the word of God, that what they
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teach is going to be lawful and unlawful, and Heaven
will agree with it because it will be that which
is taught in scripture.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Oh okay, because I've heard this about binding spirits sometimes
and losing spirits, and I'm like very confused about it.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
A lot of people take that verse out of context.
A lot of Protestants tend to do this, take that
out of context, and put that in the context of
binding and losing things. You know, I bind the devil
of confusion, or I do this and they'll be beyund
in heaven. It's really not what the proper context of that,
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although it's not overly offensive to use it in that context.
Really what's going on is about the adherence between the
rules and those things that are lawful and unlawful that
God says, God's will says yes, this is okay, No,
this is not okay, And really the Man of God
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on earth recognizing those things and distributing them. So it's like,
this is what we should be doing, this is what
we shouldn't be doing. I'm going to bind this and
say we shouldn't be doing it. I'm going to loose
this and say we should be doing it, and Heaven
agrees with me because I've taken it from scripture and
Heaven is in agreement. That is the better interpretation of
the context of that verse.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Well, does that mean that we follow the ten commandments
or we love the Lord our gargo above our heart
and soul, and love our neighbors ourselves. I mean this
is how does that apply when it comes to the
new tenant under Christ, because it sounds like then it
would put you back under some sort of a law.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Well, no, the law never goes away. If you remember
my response to that is I didn't come to abolish
the law. I came to fulfill it. There's a difference like,
for instance, heaven doesn't come to abolish hope, but there
is no hope in heaven. There's no need for it.
It's the fulfillment of hope. So you don't abolish the
Ten Commandments by any stretch of the imagination. They still
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stand today, They still have purpose today, and there are
over you know, there's over four hundred commandments in scripture
and all of them have their place. What does fall
away are certain religious concerns that that aren't not needed
under the New Covenant. But those would be things like
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certain things about dress or shaving the sides of your face,
or you know, what kind of food you eat, or
things like that that have fallen away and aren't necessary
in that context. But no, ten commandments still stand as
they are. The important thing about this. Think of it
this way. It's not about this coming up with new laws.
It's about this enforcing them. So, for instance, the binding
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would be, you know, binding up those things that you're
not supposed to be doing and then loosing the things
that you should. Like, the Ten Commandments would be a
powerful one, and they would be loosed, and God would
be in agreement in heaven, and a man would be
in agreement on the
Speaker 1 (27:23):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
Suzanne, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Hi Jesus, Hi there. I have a life situation that's
lasted about thirty eight years now, and you'd think by
now that I would have learned how to handle it better.
I still find myself being drawn into the drama of
it all, and I just find it realiant healthy to
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do that. I have trouble knowing at this point in
time where my role starts and stops. And it's regarding
my youngest daughter, who was born ill and there were
three other kids older than her and she from the
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time she was born, it was in the hospital, out
of the hospital, you know, over and over again. My
other kids went to babysitters. Every the drama always happened
and revolved around her. As she got older, she got
into drugs. Even with her she had liver transplants and
even with her meds, and she got on drugs and
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then all the resources get sent to help her, you know,
she's like eighteen, gets off, you know, to get off
of that, and then she decides to have a child.
Never been married, and when the child, my oldest granddaughter
was fifteen, she was on her way to Julie Hall
and brought her here into this house and she did graduate.
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She's doing really well. Now, she's nineteen. And during the
time when I first had my daughter, sorry, my granddaughter here,
within a year and a half she's living in another state.
My daughter is and has another child, and it's you know,
I just get so angry. And at this point in time,
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she is still now like starting over six forks, six spoons,
six knives and eating on the kitchen floor. And you know,
I still think, oh, if I did this, if I
did that, you know, but I can't do it anymore.
And it exhausts me. You know, It's like, oh, she
needs a computer. Well, you know, I've done a computer before.
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I know what happened to that computer. You know what
I'm saying, it's and and so I find myself like
talking to my husband and saying, oh, this happened with her,
and and I find myself talking for an hour and
a half. It's a perfectly good night, and everything's fine,
and I'm involved in her drama, and you know, and
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then also I get accused of being guilty, like sometimes
not very often, but my granddaughter, who is doing very
well now and she finds that I put up a
boundary and she says, she says, Grandma, that's not that's
not very nice. That's you're being selfish, and you know
I'm not anyway, I would just like hear from you,
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you know, number one, where what is expected of me
at this point in time and what I should And
also when I pray for her, what should my purse
sound like?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Well, you can't. You can't live life for someone. They're
not a puppet, They're a human being, and you're you
raise them. This this is what you raised. This is
the result of both what you and your husband have
done and then the free will of the individual and
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what they want to do with that information. They can
either use it as you've seen. You've seen those that
that you've raised and that have taken that information and
done good with it, and there's others that that didn't.
But as far as living for them or trying to
you know, correct every mistake, I want you to get
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the picture. You know the concept of teaching a child
to ride a bike and you see the parent holding
onto the back of the seat, running alongside and then
eventually they let go. Well, what you've done essentially is
stayed holding onto the back of that seat, running alongside.
It's never going to work. It can't work. The child
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will never ever learn, even at thirty nine, how to
be on their own. And you can't pick up all
the pieces. You have to allow whatever consequences to come
her way come her way. You just you can't overparent somebody.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
And to a lot of extent, I've done that. I mean,
she's been in homeless shelters, she's you know, I've held back,
but it's I don't know, I just sometimes I'll get
so angry, you know, like she'll call me about a
about something that's happened, or that something's happened with a
(05:04):
job or whatever. And you know, I've said to her,
I can't own your problems. I cannot own your problems,
you know. And and to that extent I've been able
to I mean, I've been able to not give her
money and let her be in homeless shelters and letter
for your way out.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
What do you think the problem is?
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Why?
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Why do you think she was unable to use the
you know, the tools you gave her.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
My feeling is that when she was sick, when she
was little, she was very blue, and she went a
couple of years being blue, and she developed a shunt.
I really think there's a mental deficits. I believe that
she is and has these mental deficits. She can't critically think.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Well, when you say she was blue, was she depressed.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
And deprived oxygen?
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Oh, so you're saying she had a.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Shunt, a shunt that took blood away from her lungs
and because of her liver problems, and it developed over
a couple of years where she's only like oxygenating a
couple like half of her bloody.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
So you think she's she's got has issues, she has
special needs.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Then I think that she refuses, you know, she says
child when I say, you know, I really like complete
psychiatric testing, just complete, get it done, you know. And
she's old enough or I can't drag her, you know,
And and I just I said, I really think that
if you do this, you could go on, you know,
get some some sort of assistance. I mean, she's got
(06:35):
every kind of assistance now in the world, but really
maybe long term disability. And that she refuses. She says,
you just think I'm retarded, you know, And so she
resists that too. But that's if she's impulsive and she
can she can learn, like like read, go through a
natomy book, get an a the test, but when it
(06:57):
comes to deciding if she has an money to last
from here to there, she can't do it.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
But she's never she's never formally been diagnosed with anything.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Well, her liver disease and then she had thyroid cancer,
and you know, she's she's.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Just she's had a rough go of it.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Yeah, and that's I think that's part of it. And
so you know, it's like still the drama. It's like
all my other kids go, yeah, yeah, yeah, we know,
we know what's new, you know, because they always know
it's something about her what's going on. And that's why
part of it is the illness thing. But I can't
do anything about it. I mean, she takes her medicine.
(07:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
I got all families some wisdom, Well, all families have
someone who get needs more attention. Now, the physical things,
the stuff that's physiologically going on with her is a
little different. That's that's things that she couldn't necessarily control,
and that as a parent, there is needs there that
you should be there for. That's just the way things work. However,
(08:03):
if she wants anything from you, there's nothing wrong for you, Suzanne,
to put your contingencies on it. Say I can't do
this anymore. I'm limited in what I can do. But
what I will do is if you're willing to go
and have a full psychiatric work up, if we can
look and see if there's anything else that we're missing
(08:24):
that might help you remain focused or whatever it is.
Then if you're willing to do that, then I'm willing
to help you to this point. If not, then I'm
not going to. You don't have to do all the
lifting for her. In other words, really it should be
a beautiful combination of your strength in hers when you're
(08:45):
helping anybody, actually, and if it's not, if you're doing
all the lifting, you don't need to do that. Helping
somebody is helping them that partial way, that little bit
over that they can't do on their own. Maybe, but
you can't do it all for her. So you have
to make it very clear, Listen, I'm happy to help,
but these are the rules. So when you set boundaries,
you may see them as just shutting her off or
(09:07):
saying I won't do this, And maybe that's the thing
that's making it difficult for you. So what I want
you to do is modify those boundaries with contingencies. Sure,
it's not no, because it's yes. If you know the difference,
you hear that very clear. So that's what I want
you to think about. It's not no because I'm not
(09:28):
doing this anymore. It's yes. I'll be happy to if
you get this diagnosed or done. So that's the new
rule for you. Can you think you can imply that?
Speaker 3 (09:39):
I think so, yeah, that's helpful.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
I think you can too. And you just go in
peace and just pray for strength. That's what you need
to pray for strength for you to be able to
help her. Helping people, helping loved ones, helping family. I
want you to to visualize certain things. If they were
(10:03):
doing something that harmed them, it's very easy. If they said,
you know, hold my arm while I cut these markings
into it with this knife, you wouldn't do it. And
you look at these things, and in some situations it's
just so easy. It's simple. You can see it right
in front of you. No, I don't want to participate
in helping them do that, but unfortunately life is a
(10:28):
little more nuanced than that, and that means that people
will ask for help to harm themselves in different ways
that are more difficult to discern that they're actually harmful.
And that's where you have to make decisions that might
be uncomfortable or difficult, especially especially as a parent, that
(10:51):
you have to look at what someone's doing to themselves,
doing to their family, whatever it might be, and take
a strong star ants And it won't feel great. It
may make you uncomfortable, it may make you sad, it
(11:12):
may make you feel like you're abandoning the individual, but
it's not the case. That is not the case because
you have to set certain boundaries to help people grow
and or establish new habits that are better for them
than the habits they're practicing currently. It's not going to
(11:33):
be easy, but it will be worth it if you
can help teach somebody something. You have to stay strong
when you get to that point of enabling somebody or
being that person who's just saying yes, you'd be surprised
how similar it is to saying yes to helping them
cut themselves with a knife. Marty, Welcome to the Jesus
(11:59):
Christ Show. Hello Jesus, Well, Hi a Marty.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
Honor and a pleasure to speak to you, sir.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
I have a pleasure. How can I help you?
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Well, I just I was wondering in regards to Mary.
I know that you know, you had mentioned that Mary
was poor, and but I Jesus was connected to David
through Joseph's lineage, Yes, David, And so if that's the case,
how is it that Joseph was was poor? I mean
if he was related to you know, the king of Israel,
(12:30):
and and uh, you know, I'm just wondering how, you know,
you know, what might have happened in between King David,
you know, and uh Herod? You know, from King David
to Herod Jesus's.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Time, Well, you're talking about a long period of time,
for one, and you know, there was a number of people.
It's not like I was the only one that was
a descendant. There's many people. And there's a length, a
large length and period of time between David's reign and
that particular time. As a matter of fact, you could
tell that there was no king of Israel at that time.
(13:04):
You had Roman rule. So there's obviously a massive amount
of change that took place between the time of David
and two thousand years ago when I walked this earth.
It's just major, major difference. You can be a descendant
of all kinds of people here in the United States.
Doesn't mean that you have any money.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Absolutely, I see. And so that just fulfilled prophecy, correct,
because there was a prophecy that said, you know, you
would be discindised from David.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Yes, tewod Samuel seven twelve through fifteen talks about that necessity.
And it's really not about the just the physical lineage.
I know that comes up a lot, but throughout scripture.
There's about seventeen different verses in the New Testament alone
that described me as the son of David. And it's
(13:50):
more than just that that lineage. It's it's really a title.
It's about that title. It's about fulfilling the prophecy more
than it is about you know, tracking down my family heritage.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Yeah, I see, Jesus, I apologize, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
You do apologize. It's a great question, it really is,
because you'd think, where did that money go? Where does
you know where you've got royalty? At one point and
then all of a sudden you don't. But there's a
long period of time and things change. As I said,
that the even the entire structure was gone by that point,
(14:32):
and now you had Roman rule, so a lot had
changed in that time period that had caused the You know,
it wasn't a matter of money being passed down. You're
talking about many generations. If you go through and look
at Matthew one, or you go through and you look
at Luke three, you see that that's a good chunk
(14:53):
of distance between the two. And I know that can
get confusing sometimes, but really, again, it's not just about
the physical line of David. It's really about that title
and what that title means. And there's many conversations that
take place as well. As a matter of fact, there
(15:14):
are conversations I had with the scribes and the Pharisees
in regards to this. They were always trying to trip
me up.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
You know.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
They would ask me questions and try and get me
to answer in hopes that I would upset people with
my answer.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
And.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
In a way I would do the same to them,
not so much to trip them up as much as
it was to show them that the way they processed
thought and their questions and the things that they did,
Marty were really based on hypocrisy or lack of information,
(15:56):
and they weren't as smart as they thought they were.
And so there's times in scripture where I'm talking to
the scribes and the Pharisees and I'm asking them those
very questions. I'm saying, well, isn't it interesting that you
say that I am the son of David? You get
that concept of the son of David. Yet and that
(16:16):
the Messiah was to be the son of David come
from that lineage. However, that even David in Psalm one
ten one refers to him as his lord. So I
would ask the Pharisees and the scribes, okay, so even
(16:38):
the son of David, the Messiah, even the son of David,
is referred to as lord by David, showing the obvious
confusion that would come from well, wait a second, is
he the son of David? Or is he the Lord
of David? And because there's meaning to these things rather
(16:59):
than just the concept, every time I would say something,
people would get confused based on well, what does that mean?
Is it for the physical or is it for the spiritual?
When I am in conversation with Nicodemus about an often
misunderstood term being born again, that is not a Protestant denomination.
(17:22):
Being born again is a spiritual transformation that every Christian,
whether you're Catholic or Protestant, must go through. And sometimes
it's translated as begotten from above. But that term confused Nicodemus,
and he's like, well, let me get this straight. Are
we supposed to go into our mother's womb and be
(17:44):
born a second time? But it wasn't about the physical experience.
It was about the spiritual experience. That humans need to
be born twice. They need to be born first to
the flesh, and second they have to have a spiritual birth.
And yes, humans will have two deaths as well, maybe
(18:08):
because they can have a physical death and if they
haven't rejected God and God's will, then they won't have
to go through a spiritual death. But if they have
rejected God and God's will, they'll go through a spiritual death.
So often these things are understood both in the physical
(18:28):
realm and the spiritual realm. So physically, there were some
that say, so it's just about the lineage, what does
that mean? And then there were other times where I
had to get them to see that it wasn't just
about the physical lineage. It was about the spiritual and
about the title. And on a day like today, a
(18:48):
lot of people think about, you know, parentage and where
they come from and how they were raised, celebrating that,
celebrating individuals in their life that were part of that.
And there is something too where you've come from. Now
it can define you to a certain degree. There are
(19:10):
things that you learn about yourself through those that raised you.
But ultimately you're an individual. Ultimately you're your own person,
and you define who you are based on those tools
that are given to you. Taking many a phone calls
from parents who are frustrated with their children and adult
(19:34):
children maybe say well, you know, I don't know what
to do. What do I do? Do I sit them down?
Do I tell them about this? Because they're concerned about
some path they're on in their life or something that
they're doing in their life. And really the best you
can do is to give tools to your children. You
(19:57):
pass along tools to them, and you give them the
ability to use those tools as they see fit. You
can't control them, you can't live their life for them.
That concept of the helicopter parenting where you're hovering over
your child all the time, trying to live for them
that doesn't build tools, builds a safety net, maybe, but
(20:20):
it doesn't give them the tools that they need to
actually learn to understand how to deal with their own life.
So you give them these tools, you pass them along,
and you hope that they utilize them in a way
that will build strength and confidence and abilities to make
decisions and to use discernment so they don't get caught
(20:43):
up with the wrong people or in the wrong situations,
or walking down the wrong path. And everybody has gone
down the wrong path to some degree. It's one of
the ways you learn about the right path, right. But
in that process of experimentation, in that process of learning
and about yourself having those tools, the gift, the ultimate
(21:08):
gift of a parent is going to be key. The
best gift you can give to a child is not
the gift of overparenting. It's not the gift of this
huge safety net. It's not the gift of wrapping your
child in bubble wrap. I love this concept of childproofing
(21:31):
where people come in and they try and child proof
of home, and I realized there are sharp corners and
chemicals and things that need to be locked up and
cared for. All that's great, but the concept of you
ever childproofing anything. With the curiosity of a young mind
(21:54):
and the desire to learn to know things, you can't
child proof everything just won't ever work. But what you
can do is you can teach, and you can impart,
and you can give these tools the children so that
as they grow, they will continually carry them around with
them and learn to utilize them to the best of
(22:17):
their abilities, based on the guidance that you've given them,
so that they can go through every type of concern
or doorway or situation in life and come out the
other end knowing that it's not just about you being
there for them, but they're being well equipped with the
tools that you gave them. Grace, Welcome to the Jesus Christia.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
My question is in after Peter said you are the Messiah,
the son of Living God, then he said, Jesus says,
I will give you the keys of the King in heaven.
I think I understand that, But the last part of
what was said, I don't understand. Whatever you forbid on earth,
or loose or bind will be forbidden in heaven. Whatever
(23:08):
you permit will be permitted in heaven. Does that mean
that we have Peter would have an influence or we
would have an influence on much goes on in heaven.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
No, not necessarily. This is often misunderstood, so I mean,
don't feel bad about that. A lot of people ask
about this because of it seems the way it's written
makes it appear as if you're right, whatever takes place
on earth is going to take place in heaven. And
like in the Lord's Prayer when it talks about those things,
(23:38):
that really it's talking about them them jiving with each other.
So if they're done in the proper authority, the key
obviously being a sign of authority that in the language
of our Jewish brothers and sisters, the context really shows
that it's forbidden or allowing. It's about someone judging things,
and if they're judging properly or they're teaching properly that
(24:00):
which is lawful or unlawful, then it will match that
which is lawful and unlawful in heaven. So it's basically
saying that if somebody is in that state of holding
the key, which is really a symbol of being a
person of power and authority in the church, somebody who
is dedicated to the word of God, that what they
(24:22):
teach is going to be lawful and unlawful, and Heaven
will agree with it because it will be that which
is taught in scripture.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Oh okay, because I've heard this about binding spirits sometimes
and losing spirits, and I'm like very confused about it.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
A lot of people take that verse out of context.
A lot of Protestants tend to do this, take that
out of context, and put that in the context of
binding and losing things. You know, I bind the devil
of confusion, or I do this and they'll be beyund
in heaven. It's really not what the proper context of that,
(25:01):
although it's not overly offensive to use it in that context.
Really what's going on is about the adherence between the
rules and those things that are lawful and unlawful that
God says, God's will says yes, this is okay, No,
this is not okay, And really the Man of God
(25:21):
on earth recognizing those things and distributing them. So it's like,
this is what we should be doing, this is what
we shouldn't be doing. I'm going to bind this and
say we shouldn't be doing it. I'm going to loose
this and say we should be doing it, and Heaven
agrees with me because I've taken it from scripture and
Heaven is in agreement. That is the better interpretation of
the context of that verse.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Well, does that mean that we follow the ten commandments
or we love the Lord our gargo above our heart
and soul, and love our neighbors ourselves. I mean this
is how does that apply when it comes to the
new tenant under Christ, because it sounds like then it
would put you back under some sort of a law.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Well, no, the law never goes away. If you remember
my response to that is I didn't come to abolish
the law. I came to fulfill it. There's a difference like,
for instance, heaven doesn't come to abolish hope, but there
is no hope in heaven. There's no need for it.
It's the fulfillment of hope. So you don't abolish the
Ten Commandments by any stretch of the imagination. They still
(26:24):
stand today, They still have purpose today, and there are
over you know, there's over four hundred commandments in scripture
and all of them have their place. What does fall
away are certain religious concerns that that aren't not needed
under the New Covenant. But those would be things like
(26:46):
certain things about dress or shaving the sides of your face,
or you know, what kind of food you eat, or
things like that that have fallen away and aren't necessary
in that context. But no, ten commandments still stand as
they are. The important thing about this. Think of it
this way. It's not about this coming up with new laws.
It's about this enforcing them. So, for instance, the binding
(27:09):
would be, you know, binding up those things that you're
not supposed to be doing and then loosing the things
that you should. Like, the Ten Commandments would be a
powerful one, and they would be loosed, and God would
be in agreement in heaven, and a man would be
in agreement on the
Speaker 1 (27:23):
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