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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
You look around, whether you're in the car, whether you're
out and about during the day, whatever it is that
you're doing at work, it seems there is an intense
amount of anger out there. It's not just with others.
You're dealing with it as well. You battle with this
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all the time. Anger is something that permeates every part
of your life in one form or another. And in
Scripture there's two Greek words and in the New Testament
that are used as the English word anger. One focuses
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on a means passion and energy, and the other means
agitated and boiling. And what I don't want you to
walk away with today is that all anger is bad.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
It's not. Obviously.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
When you have passion and energy and it provokes you
and promotes and instigates you to want to do something good,
then that's positive. But if you sit and you become agitated,
and you sit there boiling with the anger, it's of
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no glory to God. It produces nothing, and it's something
that continues to sit and fester. It's easy when you
deal with people when you're in that mental state where
everything you've got is important, and everything everyone else has
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to do or is a part of, is not important.
That selfish this is what breeds a lot of the
negative or unpositive or sinful anger, because that kind of
pride and attitude, that selfishness that says, well, I'm more important,
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I have things to do. This person's in my way.
That's what happens on the road. The reason why you
have a road rage is because in your head, you're
more important than the people around you, and so if
someone cuts you off, the first thought is, well, don't
they know who I am? I've got places to be,
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I've got things to do, or they think they're more
important than me. It seems silly but true. I mean,
how many times have you been on the road and
you feel someone to the side of you. Maybe you're
on the highways the byways and there's someone coming up
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next to you and they're going a little faster. You
don't want them to pass you, and you speed up
for no real reason except some sort of false competitiveness.
But it's not just on the road, it's in every
part of your life. There are things that trigger your anger,
that frustrates you and that aren't productive. They just agitate.
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They just make you get in a mindset where you
don't want to deal with anybody except out of anger
when someone asks you a question. And I see this
of people that are in a business where they're called
to answer questions, whether they work at a grocery store,
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whether they work at a hardware store, whatever it might be,
and they're there to answer questions, and still when you
ask a question, they respond negatively, and then it just
piles on, piles on, and continues to spin out of
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control as everyone gets angry. Proverbs fifteen one says a
gentle answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs
up anger. That there's ways to respond to people even
if you're not happy about the question, even if you
think it's a stupid question, there's still ways to answer
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to not accelerate or make things worse, because you play
a part in other people's anger as well. And if
you stir that up and their anger becomes that which
is classified as sin, then you play a part of
that as well. And you don't want to get caught
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up in those types of personal Prideful arguments two Timothy two,
twenty three and twenty four don't have anything to do
with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels.
And the lord's servant must not quarrel. Instead, he must
be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful. What
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a pattern to follow there, don't stir up an argument
for the sake of stirring up an argument. You may
even do this in my name, sometimes supposedly for my sake.
You may stir up an argument thinking that you're helping,
when actually you're hurting it. It doesn't mean that there
isn't a legitimate place for an argument or a discussion,
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even one that's filled with passion. But be careful the
words you use and how you participate in a discussion
that you're moving it forward, not escalating it hotter, bringing
it to a boil, because you don't want to get
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caught up in a quarrel for the sake of a quarrel.
You do want to be kind to everyone. Find it
interesting that if you read this, it says be kind
to everyone comma able to teach, comma not resentful. So
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by being kind to people you're able to teach, you're
in that you have that ability to pass along information.
If you're in a state where you're just in anger,
then you're pushing against everything you don't want to receive.
You're not in the state of receiving. You just want
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people to feel your wrath. You don't hear a thing
they're saying. Your compassion is gone, and it's just that agitated,
boiling anger. Now that the God given anger, this righteous indignation,
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is productive. It's there to help you deal with the
things at hand, problem solving, troubleshooting something. It propels you,
it pushes you, It excites you with passion and energy,
but doesn't make you sit and fester. And there's examples
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throughout Scripture of people confronting one another that are upset,
that are filled with this energy and this passion, but
not that ugly, agitated, festering, boiling anger. Not all anger
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is a sin. It's when it gets to that place
that it becomes rage. It gets to that place where
there's nothing propelling you forward, learning, teaching, experiencing. It's just
about venting full throttle anger, rage, not listening, and that
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has no place in the kingdom. That serves no purpose
and helps no one, you included. And when you get
in that state of anger, you get blind to truth,
and it's just about you. Check that next time, next
time you're angry. See how it's so much about you
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and no one else. How it's all about how you
feel and what you're going through, or what you need
or what you want it or whatever it is. And
yet you push aside everyone else around you. Anger to
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be a lot of anger. And it's not that all
anger is bad or that all anger is sin. As
you know, sin means to miss the mark, and there
is anger that misses the mark. There's anger that is
caught up in just being angry, just being annoyed, just
being agitated, rather than something that propels you, that moves
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you forward, that makes you want to solve problems. And
the key to anger is you will notice that anger
really becomes sin when it's focused just on you, When
it's selfish in nature and the purpose, the goal is
completely shifted and no longer in focus, and it's just
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about the anger. So if you think of it this way,
that your anger should attack a problem, not a person.
If your anger attacks a problem, not a person, then
it's productive. Then you're looking to solve something. Then you're
looking to eradicate a problem. But not just attack a person.
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And in scripture, and this happens so much, we've this
kind has come up on the show over and over again,
that there are times where you don't go to a
person and you feel that they've wronged you or something's happened.
You don't go to them to talk to them. You
don't confront them face to face, which is the biblical way.
You look for, you know, some reason, just to smear
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their name or to be ugly.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
That doesn't it doesn't help.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Galatians two eleven through fourteen deals with this very thing.
When you're opposing someone, you oppose them to their face.
If you feel someone's in the wrong, then you express
that to them way that is helpful and propels you forward.
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But the anger that I see right now, the anger
that maybe you're experiencing yourself, whether you be the recipient
of it or you'd be the person sending it out,
is that it's only focused on the individual. It's only
about you and what you need to do. Don't they
know I need to do X, Y and Z. Don't
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they know that I have to do this or that
I'm this? And usually that type of anger stems from
people in general, not listening, if you're not attentive, if
someone yells at you, in all likelihood they don't feel
they're being heard. They feel that something you're doing is
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hurting them or might hurt them, or is going to
hurt them, and that makes them nervous or scared, and
it manifests in screaming anger. Some of the most angry
people in life are the most meek, are the ones
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that are so fearful of someone hurting them that they
get loud. And maybe you do this, You get loud
in hopes of people either backing off or running away
or not coming too close to hurt you anymore. That
type of anger doesn't help. So to biblically deal with anger,
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you have to first focus and see and admit that
your anger comes from a selfish place and learn to
turn that around to where you are attacking that problem
and not attacking a person. Aurora, Welcome to the Jesus
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Christ Show.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Today is a very special day for my son. He's
gonna take body cry for the first time.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Oh wonderful.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Yes, he's extremely excited. He has been asking for it,
and uh, I gotta tell you it's a special need kid.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Okay, and how so he is autistic?
Speaker 1 (13:18):
He is, he actually has celebro policy and the brain damage.
But Contrail hold that prediction is a very He's able
to walk, and you know, it's very good in school.
And he's a very happy child, extremely happy and very emotional.
So we go to church every Sunday and during communion
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is always always cry. You get emotional. He said that
he's happy. Oh and uh so we talk with a priest.
We got some preparation and today is a day and
he has great expectition.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Okay, how so what is expectations?
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Well, and that's what I will try to understand. He
say that it's going to take the body of Christ
today and then it's going to feel better.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Oh so he thinks that it's going to be there's
going to be healing properties too.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
I don't know. I'm afraid that he has some expectation
about that, you know, spiritual part of it. And and
then maybe it's me. I'm not understanding him correctly, but
I'm afraid that he's suspecting something. And if so, I
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don't know what to say after, you know, what to
tell them, because we talk every day about it. And
what I told him, I said Yes, you're going to
be feeling good inside. You're gonna be feeling great inside.
You're going to be feeling in all love and and
you know, and I just you know, because it's working
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very hard on correctingess its problem is physical problem, and
it's learning out red it. So many search and finally
he's walking, you know, with his feet on the ground,
no more on his toes. And you know, so it's
working very hard in order to walk to the altar,
because you want to walk to the altar. And then I
want to be in the wheelchair and he want to
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be you know.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
So he sounds wonderful, just his spirit, his desire give
me better good And that's a good way to see
it as well as the gift of having a special
needs child is first knowing that God trusts you enough
to oversee and care for somebody, so special is a
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pretty amazing thing.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Now, is he's seven or eight years old?
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Oh, it's actually ten longer, so.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
He's he's older for the process.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
So he's he's going to be taking in some of
this information a little differently as well as he's a
little bit older.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Was there a purpose for waiting? Was his special needs
part of that decision.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Well, honest to do, it was more me than him.
I was afraid that he was not going to understand.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Okay, Well, it's a tough thing to understand at at
any age. I mean, there's there's a lot of adults,
I would say most adults that don't understand truly what's
going on. And even in the Church, you have differences
between Catholics and Protestants.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
You know, Catholics and Lutherans celebrate this particular ceremony and
look at and and truly believe that Christ that I
Am present truly in the Eucharist now, although they see
things slightly differently in there, whereas Protestant a lot of
other Protestant denominations believe that it's a practice to be
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adhered to because I said so, that it was something
to do and memorial and in memory of And so
there's differing views in this as it stands across the board,
which makes it difficult for even adults to comprehend. I
would say that managed expectations is a good term for
you to know in this case, and that is it's
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not about being a wet blanket or showering any hopes
with so much reality that they because the balance between
understanding God and how God moves in this world and
that the trials in life and as they happen is
a difficult one for adults as well at alone a child.
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So the balance here is to say, is to really
make sure that he explains what's going on. And during
the before the first communion, there's time with the priest. Correct, yeah, okay,
and the priest has explained and he's gone to Catechism
and all of those things to understand. So there's going
to be some knowledge that comes prior to this, but
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also to be reinforced by you. They understand that it's
not magic. It's not about magic, and it's not about that.
It's like a it's not medicine like that.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
It's not going to fix it, no it And.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
It's not that that God doesn't have the power to
fix things, uh, or to fix what we think is broken,
because oftentimes God says it's not broken. You think it's
broken because you want it to do X, Y and Z,
and you know.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Honest with you, it is probably maybe more my inspectition.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
That's that's interesting.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
So you say that that that you are putting the
weight the false expectation on this.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Uh No, it's I've been, you know, waiting for the
magic day. You know that one day you wake up
and everything is gone, you know, and maybe maybe it's me.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Well, you know what the magic day is. The magic
day is understanding that this, that this is life, and
that God is in uh perfection and imperfection by way
of healing. Now, it doesn't mean a full physical healing.
That means spiritual healing for most. If you remember, Paul
even had the thorn in the flesh what's referred to
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as a thorn in the flesh in scripture, and he
asked three times to have it removed, and three times
God said no. And yet Paul had to see the
blessing in that understanding that those those privations or the
lack of something that everyone else seemed to have really
made Paul who he was. And that's part of the process.
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And so the managing of expectations for both you and
I love that you're being honest, both you and your boy,
is to understand what's going on. One the first and foremost,
the reason why you take communion is because I said
so in scripture. That's first and foremost, Because God said it,
it's in scripture. Therefore you do it. That the obedience
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is important. And secondly, to understand that there is something
very beautiful despite all the disagreement that goes on in
the different denominations as to what's going on, and if
it actually becomes the blood and the body and all
of these things, those are inter body discussions. That the
Body of Christ discusses those things and argues those things,
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and that's fine. But most importantly is that it was
you're told to do it, and that it is in remembrance,
and that it does have power. There is something quite
beautiful and connective towards that moment. I was constantly breaking
bread and connecting with people, and this is one of
those moments that cannot be denied.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
And you don't know what will take place.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Neither of you, regardless of expectations, know what will take place.
But most importantly, what is guaranteed to take place is
the fulfillment of a commitment towards God. And that is
going to take place. So whether you know anything else
is going to are not going to that the fulfillment
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of a commitment towards God. That's what's exciting, that that
he is stepping forward. He is wheeling forward, he is
limping forward, doesn't matter. He is moving forward before God
and man in his commitment towards God.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
You know, you look at his face and he laid
up when you go in church. If he has and
had that's our priests say he has in him, and
you know he feels that, and he has a totally
different emotion, and you know, and he has his own
reason and he has his own belief and and maybe
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it's different. It's different for me as an adult than him,
you know, with the way we expressed. But I know
that I appreciate that, I appreciate about the Christ, and
I get closer to you after I got my phone.
He's making me better and you know, and all this
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emotions that he's having, him having it with him, and
it's an amazing feeling. It's amazing. It's I don't know,
I don't know how to explain that. You know. Somebody
told me why you go to church every Sunday? That
church doesn't do anything for me. And and the best
way that I was able to express, I say, I
feel like I'm home. I had this big warm howk again?
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You know around me this I feel like I'm home.
That's that's my best feeling. And I believe markets feel
the same way. I'm not sure, but they love that.
And he's happy, and you know, and and now you
know it's going to have his body of Christ today
and yesterday was telling me, Mommy, then I'm gonna have
every Sunday and every Sunday I can have my body
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of Christ. You know, it's it's beautiful. And you know
how many other people are so skeptical about that and
how they are no understanding.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Oh, they're skepticism in all things, Aurora, and the church
has been a focus of that. I've been a focus
of that for a long time. But I want you
to really deeply enjoy today and take it in for
all the ceremony and love and fun of it, as
well as the deep spiritual meaning that goes along with it.
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And sharing that with your boy and experiencing that is
going to be a very powerful thing. Keep in mind,
keep in mind that that faith and understanding and a
relationship with God is it not about being perfect in
this world. It's about understanding and conquering imperfection with the
understanding of who God is and that there is It's
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not only about this world, but about the world to come.
But I have the most blessed day, and I hope
that you'll share with us. How today went on a
future broadcast into the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
Good morning, thank you for taking my call, my pleasure.
I was discussing with a new friend. She is a
Christian and I am a believer as well, and I
was mentioning that the church that I'm going to is
planning on starting a contemporary style worship service. And she said,
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do you have a piano in your church? And I said, well, sure,
I said, we have a couple. We have one upstairs
and we have one downstairs. And she said, uh, she says,
we don't have any instruments in our church. I said, oh,
that's kind of curious. Do you mind if I asked why?
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And she said.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
That.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
She said that the New Testament church, or or the
New the New dispensation is that, you know, no instruments
in church. And I said, but there's lots of references
where instruments were used to assist in praising God when
David brought the arc into the Temple of Meeting, and
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you know, oh sure, there's musicians and Bryan.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
There are times in scripture where priests and musicians are referenced,
but only the musicians are referenced by name. There's there's
great importance to music, make a joyful noise. There are
many references to the importance of music and and even
dancing at times as well.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
We ultimately that it came down to the term dispensation.
I don't know what that.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Is, Okay, the term dispensation. Think of it this way
because there's this gets into different theological understandings of dispensationalism.
But I want you to think of it this way
for the sake of your call. I think this will
be helpful. Think of it as time periods, management of
time periods, and how God manages those time periods, those
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different dispensations. So think of it this way as and
I prefer people to think of it this way anyways.
But if you go through scripture, think of scripture in
humanity as a child that's being born and being raised
by God. Not just individual men and women, but think
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of all men and women, the planet as a whole,
as a child being raised by God.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
So if you look at.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
The beginning and the middle and the ending of scripture,
you will see that God interacts with the world a
little differently, And people say, you know, what, how come
the God of the Old Testament seems so angry?
Speaker 2 (26:45):
You know?
Speaker 3 (26:45):
And then you know, and how come the God of
the New Testament seems so flowery? And they try putting
these things together. Well, a dispensation is sectioning of scripture
or time periods and the way God interact interact. So,
for instance, if you look at the Old Testament, it
does seem like God is angry all the time, but
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that's not true.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Really.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
What it is is, if you think of the world
as a baby, you may interact with a child an
infant differently.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
They're crying, they're needy.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
You might even pat the bottom of a child, but
you wouldn't of an eighteen year old.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
It wouldn't make sense.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
So as they grow, you interact with your children differently.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Correct, Okay.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
So dispensationalism, in a very loose sense is how God
is interacting with humanity during different times and periods throughout history,
not only scripturally but now currently. So, which is a
wonderful way to look at scripture and to understand scripture.
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The problem comes when people use this as a way
of defining God or defining Christianity or Salvation based on
these time periods. Some people separate the scripture scriptures and
do about seven different dispensations or different times or periods
where God is interacting with his creation. But what I
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want you to see is that none of those define
God or Salvation or man correctly. You have to see
them in their totality to understand what's going on. And
sometimes people get lost in certain That's why you'll hear
people say, oh, that's not for today, right, Oh, that's
the Old Testament.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
That's not for that.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
No, that's ridiculous. God put it in there. It's there
for today and it's important. And that's like removing the
grace out of the Old Testament or removing the law
out of the New Testament. They both have a place
and a purpose in both of those chapters of the
Christian faith by way of Judaism. So you get lost
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if you say, well, it's not for today, which is
essentially what they're saying.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Now do they use microphones at all?
Speaker 4 (28:54):
Oh? You know, I didn't. I've heard you say that
on the show before. I did not ask that.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
I'm always humored by that that that that uh that
uh using that's not an instrument.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
Or what have you.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Usually, when you get to that point, the church has
some unhealthy, uh, some unhealthy parts to it. Now, I
don't know this church, and I don't know how they're
using this term, and it's coming to me secondhand, but
I will tell you this, Brian, that if that's a
that's a bad sign to me about the health of
a particular church.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
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Okay.
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You look around, whether you're in the car, whether you're
out and about during the day, whatever it is that
you're doing at work, it seems there is an intense
amount of anger out there. It's not just with others.
You're dealing with it as well. You battle with this
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all the time. Anger is something that permeates every part
of your life in one form or another. And in
Scripture there's two Greek words and in the New Testament
that are used as the English word anger. One focuses
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on a means passion and energy, and the other means
agitated and boiling. And what I don't want you to
walk away with today is that all anger is bad.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
It's not. Obviously.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
When you have passion and energy and it provokes you
and promotes and instigates you to want to do something good,
then that's positive. But if you sit and you become agitated,
and you sit there boiling with the anger, it's of
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no glory to God. It produces nothing, and it's something
that continues to sit and fester. It's easy when you
deal with people when you're in that mental state where
everything you've got is important, and everything everyone else has
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to do or is a part of, is not important.
That selfish this is what breeds a lot of the
negative or unpositive or sinful anger, because that kind of
pride and attitude, that selfishness that says, well, I'm more important,
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I have things to do. This person's in my way.
That's what happens on the road. The reason why you
have a road rage is because in your head, you're
more important than the people around you, and so if
someone cuts you off, the first thought is, well, don't
they know who I am? I've got places to be,
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I've got things to do, or they think they're more
important than me. It seems silly but true. I mean,
how many times have you been on the road and
you feel someone to the side of you. Maybe you're
on the highways the byways and there's someone coming up
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next to you and they're going a little faster. You
don't want them to pass you, and you speed up
for no real reason except some sort of false competitiveness.
But it's not just on the road, it's in every
part of your life. There are things that trigger your anger,
that frustrates you and that aren't productive. They just agitate.
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They just make you get in a mindset where you
don't want to deal with anybody except out of anger
when someone asks you a question. And I see this
of people that are in a business where they're called
to answer questions, whether they work at a grocery store,
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whether they work at a hardware store, whatever it might be,
and they're there to answer questions, and still when you
ask a question, they respond negatively, and then it just
piles on, piles on, and continues to spin out of
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control as everyone gets angry. Proverbs fifteen one says a
gentle answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs
up anger. That there's ways to respond to people even
if you're not happy about the question, even if you
think it's a stupid question, there's still ways to answer
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to not accelerate or make things worse, because you play
a part in other people's anger as well. And if
you stir that up and their anger becomes that which
is classified as sin, then you play a part of
that as well. And you don't want to get caught
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up in those types of personal Prideful arguments two Timothy two,
twenty three and twenty four don't have anything to do
with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels.
And the lord's servant must not quarrel. Instead, he must
be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful. What
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a pattern to follow there, don't stir up an argument
for the sake of stirring up an argument. You may
even do this in my name, sometimes supposedly for my sake.
You may stir up an argument thinking that you're helping,
when actually you're hurting it. It doesn't mean that there
isn't a legitimate place for an argument or a discussion,
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even one that's filled with passion. But be careful the
words you use and how you participate in a discussion
that you're moving it forward, not escalating it hotter, bringing
it to a boil, because you don't want to get
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caught up in a quarrel for the sake of a quarrel.
You do want to be kind to everyone. Find it
interesting that if you read this, it says be kind
to everyone comma able to teach, comma not resentful. So
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by being kind to people you're able to teach, you're
in that you have that ability to pass along information.
If you're in a state where you're just in anger,
then you're pushing against everything you don't want to receive.
You're not in the state of receiving. You just want
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people to feel your wrath. You don't hear a thing
they're saying. Your compassion is gone, and it's just that agitated,
boiling anger. Now that the God given anger, this righteous indignation,
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is productive. It's there to help you deal with the
things at hand, problem solving, troubleshooting something. It propels you,
it pushes you, It excites you with passion and energy,
but doesn't make you sit and fester. And there's examples
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throughout Scripture of people confronting one another that are upset,
that are filled with this energy and this passion, but
not that ugly, agitated, festering, boiling anger. Not all anger
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is a sin. It's when it gets to that place
that it becomes rage. It gets to that place where
there's nothing propelling you forward, learning, teaching, experiencing. It's just
about venting full throttle anger, rage, not listening, and that
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has no place in the kingdom. That serves no purpose
and helps no one, you included. And when you get
in that state of anger, you get blind to truth,
and it's just about you. Check that next time, next
time you're angry. See how it's so much about you
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and no one else. How it's all about how you
feel and what you're going through, or what you need
or what you want it or whatever it is. And
yet you push aside everyone else around you. Anger to
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be a lot of anger. And it's not that all
anger is bad or that all anger is sin. As
you know, sin means to miss the mark, and there
is anger that misses the mark. There's anger that is
caught up in just being angry, just being annoyed, just
being agitated, rather than something that propels you, that moves
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you forward, that makes you want to solve problems. And
the key to anger is you will notice that anger
really becomes sin when it's focused just on you, When
it's selfish in nature and the purpose, the goal is
completely shifted and no longer in focus, and it's just
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about the anger. So if you think of it this way,
that your anger should attack a problem, not a person.
If your anger attacks a problem, not a person, then
it's productive. Then you're looking to solve something. Then you're
looking to eradicate a problem. But not just attack a person.
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And in scripture, and this happens so much, we've this
kind has come up on the show over and over again,
that there are times where you don't go to a
person and you feel that they've wronged you or something's happened.
You don't go to them to talk to them. You
don't confront them face to face, which is the biblical way.
You look for, you know, some reason, just to smear
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their name or to be ugly.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
That doesn't it doesn't help.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Galatians two eleven through fourteen deals with this very thing.
When you're opposing someone, you oppose them to their face.
If you feel someone's in the wrong, then you express
that to them way that is helpful and propels you forward.
(11:05):
But the anger that I see right now, the anger
that maybe you're experiencing yourself, whether you be the recipient
of it or you'd be the person sending it out,
is that it's only focused on the individual. It's only
about you and what you need to do. Don't they
know I need to do X, Y and Z. Don't
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they know that I have to do this or that
I'm this? And usually that type of anger stems from
people in general, not listening, if you're not attentive, if
someone yells at you, in all likelihood they don't feel
they're being heard. They feel that something you're doing is
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hurting them or might hurt them, or is going to
hurt them, and that makes them nervous or scared, and
it manifests in screaming anger. Some of the most angry
people in life are the most meek, are the ones
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that are so fearful of someone hurting them that they
get loud. And maybe you do this, You get loud
in hopes of people either backing off or running away
or not coming too close to hurt you anymore. That
type of anger doesn't help. So to biblically deal with anger,
(12:36):
you have to first focus and see and admit that
your anger comes from a selfish place and learn to
turn that around to where you are attacking that problem
and not attacking a person. Aurora, Welcome to the Jesus
(12:57):
Christ Show.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Today is a very special day for my son. He's
gonna take body cry for the first time.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Oh wonderful.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Yes, he's extremely excited. He has been asking for it,
and uh, I gotta tell you it's a special need kid.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Okay, and how so he is autistic?
Speaker 1 (13:18):
He is, he actually has celebro policy and the brain damage.
But Contrail hold that prediction is a very He's able
to walk, and you know, it's very good in school.
And he's a very happy child, extremely happy and very emotional.
So we go to church every Sunday and during communion
(13:40):
is always always cry. You get emotional. He said that
he's happy. Oh and uh so we talk with a priest.
We got some preparation and today is a day and
he has great expectition.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Okay, how so what is expectations?
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Well, and that's what I will try to understand. He
say that it's going to take the body of Christ
today and then it's going to feel better.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Oh so he thinks that it's going to be there's
going to be healing properties too.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
I don't know. I'm afraid that he has some expectation
about that, you know, spiritual part of it. And and
then maybe it's me. I'm not understanding him correctly, but
I'm afraid that he's suspecting something. And if so, I
(14:31):
don't know what to say after, you know, what to
tell them, because we talk every day about it. And
what I told him, I said Yes, you're going to
be feeling good inside. You're gonna be feeling great inside.
You're going to be feeling in all love and and
you know, and I just you know, because it's working
(14:52):
very hard on correctingess its problem is physical problem, and
it's learning out red it. So many search and finally
he's walking, you know, with his feet on the ground,
no more on his toes. And you know, so it's
working very hard in order to walk to the altar,
because you want to walk to the altar. And then I
want to be in the wheelchair and he want to
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be you know.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
So he sounds wonderful, just his spirit, his desire give
me better good And that's a good way to see
it as well as the gift of having a special
needs child is first knowing that God trusts you enough
to oversee and care for somebody, so special is a
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pretty amazing thing.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Now, is he's seven or eight years old?
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Oh, it's actually ten longer, so.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
He's he's older for the process.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
So he's he's going to be taking in some of
this information a little differently as well as he's a
little bit older.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Was there a purpose for waiting? Was his special needs
part of that decision.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Well, honest to do, it was more me than him.
I was afraid that he was not going to understand.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Okay, Well, it's a tough thing to understand at at
any age. I mean, there's there's a lot of adults,
I would say most adults that don't understand truly what's
going on. And even in the Church, you have differences
between Catholics and Protestants.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
You know, Catholics and Lutherans celebrate this particular ceremony and
look at and and truly believe that Christ that I
Am present truly in the Eucharist now, although they see
things slightly differently in there, whereas Protestant a lot of
other Protestant denominations believe that it's a practice to be
(16:50):
adhered to because I said so, that it was something
to do and memorial and in memory of And so
there's differing views in this as it stands across the board,
which makes it difficult for even adults to comprehend. I
would say that managed expectations is a good term for
you to know in this case, and that is it's
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not about being a wet blanket or showering any hopes
with so much reality that they because the balance between
understanding God and how God moves in this world and
that the trials in life and as they happen is
a difficult one for adults as well at alone a child.
(17:35):
So the balance here is to say, is to really
make sure that he explains what's going on. And during
the before the first communion, there's time with the priest. Correct, yeah, okay,
and the priest has explained and he's gone to Catechism
and all of those things to understand. So there's going
to be some knowledge that comes prior to this, but
(17:57):
also to be reinforced by you. They understand that it's
not magic. It's not about magic, and it's not about that.
It's like a it's not medicine like that.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
It's not going to fix it, no it And.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
It's not that that God doesn't have the power to
fix things, uh, or to fix what we think is broken,
because oftentimes God says it's not broken. You think it's
broken because you want it to do X, Y and Z,
and you know.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Honest with you, it is probably maybe more my inspectition.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
That's that's interesting.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
So you say that that that you are putting the
weight the false expectation on this.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Uh No, it's I've been, you know, waiting for the
magic day. You know that one day you wake up
and everything is gone, you know, and maybe maybe it's me.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Well, you know what the magic day is. The magic
day is understanding that this, that this is life, and
that God is in uh perfection and imperfection by way
of healing. Now, it doesn't mean a full physical healing.
That means spiritual healing for most. If you remember, Paul
even had the thorn in the flesh what's referred to
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as a thorn in the flesh in scripture, and he
asked three times to have it removed, and three times
God said no. And yet Paul had to see the
blessing in that understanding that those those privations or the
lack of something that everyone else seemed to have really
made Paul who he was. And that's part of the process.
(19:33):
And so the managing of expectations for both you and
I love that you're being honest, both you and your boy,
is to understand what's going on. One the first and foremost,
the reason why you take communion is because I said
so in scripture. That's first and foremost, Because God said it,
it's in scripture. Therefore you do it. That the obedience
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is important. And secondly, to understand that there is something
very beautiful despite all the disagreement that goes on in
the different denominations as to what's going on, and if
it actually becomes the blood and the body and all
of these things, those are inter body discussions. That the
Body of Christ discusses those things and argues those things,
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and that's fine. But most importantly is that it was
you're told to do it, and that it is in remembrance,
and that it does have power. There is something quite
beautiful and connective towards that moment. I was constantly breaking
bread and connecting with people, and this is one of
those moments that cannot be denied.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
And you don't know what will take place.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Neither of you, regardless of expectations, know what will take place.
But most importantly, what is guaranteed to take place is
the fulfillment of a commitment towards God. And that is
going to take place. So whether you know anything else
is going to are not going to that the fulfillment
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of a commitment towards God. That's what's exciting, that that
he is stepping forward. He is wheeling forward, he is
limping forward, doesn't matter. He is moving forward before God
and man in his commitment towards God.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
You know, you look at his face and he laid
up when you go in church. If he has and
had that's our priests say he has in him, and
you know he feels that, and he has a totally
different emotion, and you know, and he has his own
reason and he has his own belief and and maybe
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it's different. It's different for me as an adult than him,
you know, with the way we expressed. But I know
that I appreciate that, I appreciate about the Christ, and
I get closer to you after I got my phone.
He's making me better and you know, and all this
(22:05):
emotions that he's having, him having it with him, and
it's an amazing feeling. It's amazing. It's I don't know,
I don't know how to explain that. You know. Somebody
told me why you go to church every Sunday? That
church doesn't do anything for me. And and the best
way that I was able to express, I say, I
feel like I'm home. I had this big warm howk again?
(22:27):
You know around me this I feel like I'm home.
That's that's my best feeling. And I believe markets feel
the same way. I'm not sure, but they love that.
And he's happy, and you know, and and now you
know it's going to have his body of Christ today
and yesterday was telling me, Mommy, then I'm gonna have
every Sunday and every Sunday I can have my body
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of Christ. You know, it's it's beautiful. And you know
how many other people are so skeptical about that and
how they are no understanding.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Oh, they're skepticism in all things, Aurora, and the church
has been a focus of that. I've been a focus
of that for a long time. But I want you
to really deeply enjoy today and take it in for
all the ceremony and love and fun of it, as
well as the deep spiritual meaning that goes along with it.
(23:22):
And sharing that with your boy and experiencing that is
going to be a very powerful thing. Keep in mind,
keep in mind that that faith and understanding and a
relationship with God is it not about being perfect in
this world. It's about understanding and conquering imperfection with the
understanding of who God is and that there is It's
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not only about this world, but about the world to come.
But I have the most blessed day, and I hope
that you'll share with us. How today went on a
future broadcast into the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
Good morning, thank you for taking my call, my pleasure.
I was discussing with a new friend. She is a
Christian and I am a believer as well, and I
was mentioning that the church that I'm going to is
planning on starting a contemporary style worship service. And she said,
(24:26):
do you have a piano in your church? And I said, well, sure,
I said, we have a couple. We have one upstairs
and we have one downstairs. And she said, uh, she says,
we don't have any instruments in our church. I said, oh,
that's kind of curious. Do you mind if I asked why?
(24:46):
And she said.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
That.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
She said that the New Testament church, or or the
New the New dispensation is that, you know, no instruments
in church. And I said, but there's lots of references
where instruments were used to assist in praising God when
David brought the arc into the Temple of Meeting, and
(25:14):
you know, oh sure, there's musicians and Bryan.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
There are times in scripture where priests and musicians are referenced,
but only the musicians are referenced by name. There's there's
great importance to music, make a joyful noise. There are
many references to the importance of music and and even
dancing at times as well.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
We ultimately that it came down to the term dispensation.
I don't know what that.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Is, Okay, the term dispensation. Think of it this way
because there's this gets into different theological understandings of dispensationalism.
But I want you to think of it this way
for the sake of your call. I think this will
be helpful. Think of it as time periods, management of
time periods, and how God manages those time periods, those
(26:07):
different dispensations. So think of it this way as and
I prefer people to think of it this way anyways.
But if you go through scripture, think of scripture in
humanity as a child that's being born and being raised
by God. Not just individual men and women, but think
(26:27):
of all men and women, the planet as a whole,
as a child being raised by God.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
So if you look at.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
The beginning and the middle and the ending of scripture,
you will see that God interacts with the world a
little differently, And people say, you know, what, how come
the God of the Old Testament seems so angry?
Speaker 2 (26:45):
You know?
Speaker 3 (26:45):
And then you know, and how come the God of
the New Testament seems so flowery? And they try putting
these things together. Well, a dispensation is sectioning of scripture
or time periods and the way God interact interact. So,
for instance, if you look at the Old Testament, it
does seem like God is angry all the time, but
(27:06):
that's not true.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Really.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
What it is is, if you think of the world
as a baby, you may interact with a child an
infant differently.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
They're crying, they're needy.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
You might even pat the bottom of a child, but
you wouldn't of an eighteen year old.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
It wouldn't make sense.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
So as they grow, you interact with your children differently.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Correct, Okay.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
So dispensationalism, in a very loose sense is how God
is interacting with humanity during different times and periods throughout history,
not only scripturally but now currently. So, which is a
wonderful way to look at scripture and to understand scripture.
(27:48):
The problem comes when people use this as a way
of defining God or defining Christianity or Salvation based on
these time periods. Some people separate the scripture scriptures and
do about seven different dispensations or different times or periods
where God is interacting with his creation. But what I
(28:09):
want you to see is that none of those define
God or Salvation or man correctly. You have to see
them in their totality to understand what's going on. And
sometimes people get lost in certain That's why you'll hear
people say, oh, that's not for today, right, Oh, that's
the Old Testament.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
That's not for that.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
No, that's ridiculous. God put it in there. It's there
for today and it's important. And that's like removing the
grace out of the Old Testament or removing the law
out of the New Testament. They both have a place
and a purpose in both of those chapters of the
Christian faith by way of Judaism. So you get lost
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if you say, well, it's not for today, which is
essentially what they're saying.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Now do they use microphones at all?
Speaker 4 (28:54):
Oh? You know, I didn't. I've heard you say that
on the show before. I did not ask that.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
I'm always humored by that that that that uh that
uh using that's not an instrument.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
Or what have you.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Usually, when you get to that point, the church has
some unhealthy, uh, some unhealthy parts to it. Now, I
don't know this church, and I don't know how they're
using this term, and it's coming to me secondhand, but
I will tell you this, Brian, that if that's a
that's a bad sign to me about the health of
a particular church.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
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