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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to KFI A six on demand. Ozzie, Welcome
to the Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
How are you doing?
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Good morning, Good morning. How can I help you?
Speaker 2 (00:16):
So about a week ago, I saw a car accident
and I ended up pulling over to see if there
was anything I could do to help the guy inside.
It was a it was a pretty bad accident. It
was on a rainy day. I got out of the car.
You know, there was four total for people too cars,
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two in each car. And the guy that was hit,
he was he like he was unconscious. Her his wife
was in there, and we managed to get the wife
out and we try to help the help the older guy.
You know, we were trying to give him CPR. We
couldn't get any bottles from him, and then we finally
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check on other people in the other vehicle. I ended
up opening the door and I smelled like just you know,
alcohol and you know, marijuana. I did it just smelled
of it, and like I just have like just like
sometimes I don't know how to control the anger that
I have for this guy. You know, you know, I
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just found out the guy that he ended up hitting
actually passed away. And also I have anger towards myself,
because what if there was something else I could have
done help him out? Like you know, I just I
just feel like I didn't do enough to help the
guy out. And it's like I don't know what to
feel or how to act or anything.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
And if you really use the advice, well, well look
at this in two different parts. First of all, whether
you could have done more and the concept of anger,
the productive kind of anger is is the anger that
attacks problems, not people. And I know it'd be easy
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just to want to pull apart somebody and deal with them,
someone who would be so cavalier towards humanity, so selfish
and uncaring that they would consume so much alcohol or
pot or whatever they were consuming to the degree where
they couldn't control the vehicle. Yet they got behind that
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vehicle anyways and caused a massive accident. So it's very
normal to want to respond to that physically, but it
doesn't help or bring any glory to God in any way,
shape or form, And it can put you in a
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bad situation when it comes to releasing and forgiving. Under
circumstances like that, you're not forgiving the person because with
that kind of forgiveness comes something called reconciliation, and you're
not looking to be friends with them. Yeah, what you're
looking to do is release this this ugliness, this garbage
that festers in your heart, that weighs you down. And
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my biggest concern is you finding a way to place
that on God's shoulders so that you're not bound by
all that garbage as you go through life. Now, as
far as the other aspect of things, did you do enough?
What makes you think that you didn't do enough?
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Well, you know, I was there trying to help them out.
You know. The only thing I ever knew was just
you know, just ucprs, you know, if you're not breathing,
you know, just do whatever you can't help out. You
know something my mom told me, you know, if you
taught me as a little boy, you know, help out.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
And I just.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
You know, I tried what I could. And it's just
in my mind it's what if there was something else
I could have done? You know, what if there was
something I could have done you know too, you know,
just to give them a better fighting chance to make it,
you know, And it's just been on my mind, like
could I have done anything else? You know, did I
not do something right that he didn't make it.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
There is so much going on in a situation like that,
and the fact that you even run to a situation
to help out when many people don't care or run
away from it is more than most. The fact that
you assessed the situation and that you assessed that there
was somebody who had been under the influence of maybe pot,
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maybe alcohol, means that you were really present and really
there and looking for answers in that horrible accident. I
don't think you did anything wrong. I think you need
to be comfortable with the fact that you ran to
help and you did what you could, and it's very overwhelming.
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It's different from academically being in the mindset okay, well,
if something happens, I'm going to do X, Y, and Z,
versus actually having to do it and to be there
and to look at any carnage or anything like that
or trauma to someone can be overwhelming. And it's sad
that somebody, somebody lost their life that day, and it's
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sad to think that it may have been for no reason,
just some selfishness. But just because that that's the truth
of the situation doesn't mean that has to do anything
with you, You're not the selfish one. Selfish one would
be anyone who thought it was okay to to drink
or to smoke pot and then drive. So I think
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you did what you what you could under the circumstances,
and I think that's great. I think you're very brave,
and I think that's a very human and communal thing
to do, to be a part of things around you
and do your best to make them work out in
everybody's favor. But as far as this individual being angry
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at them isn't going to do anything, it really is
just going to fester inside you and make you a
pretty ugly person based on it. Do you have any
contact with them?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
No, I didn't even know these people, you know. It
was just something I found aside something, you know, something
I try to do is just help out, and you
know it's I don't even know these people.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Well you didn't.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
I really wish I just wish I could keep it,
you know, there would be certain ways I could be
there for the wife, you know, you know, infinite. It
was just saying, you know, like you know, just to
send my condolence without her.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Well, she's going through a lot, right now, and in
a circumstance like this, there's a lot of pain and
a lot of confusion, and people are trying to sift
through it. If that opportunity arises, I'm sure it will
come your way. But right now, you focus the fact
that what you did, that your mama raised your right,
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and that what you did was the right thing to do,
to get involved and to make sure everybody's okay, and
to do whatever you can in any limitation to help out,
and then leave it at that. It is sad that
someone lost their life in that car accident, especially if
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it involves alcohol and pot and it's much less an
accident than it was negligence. But don't second guess what
you did. You did the best you could. And don't
harbor anger because that hurts no one but you. So
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just keep those two things in mind. Rachel, Welcome to
the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Hi Jesus, Hello, Hi, I have a question for you.
I was reading this morning numbers twenty two, and in
eighteen Baalim flat out says to the Lord, let's see here.
Oh he says, I would be powerless to do anything
against the will of the Lord. And in twenty God
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came to Baylim and said, since these men have come
for you, get up and go with them, and he
tells him to go with them and then drop down
a little bit. In twenty two. God was furious that
Balem was going and this troubles me. I need to
know that. It seems out of.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
It seems like a contradiction.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Yes, and I don't that's not the God that I know.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
No, it's like a sneaky God going go over here,
and now you went over there. There's a lot going
on here. And this involves the Angel of the Lord.
And if you notice, the Angel of the Lord does
not kill.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Him, No he doesn't.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
No, he actually gives him. The concern here is about
dealing with Balem's greed in his heart. He was tempted
by the offers that were coming his way. You can
read numbers, you know, twenty two to twelve. Also verse
seventeen about the temptation, and the intent was not about
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to kill him. It was to remind him of what
his original agreement was, because he kept getting tempted and
his heart was clearly filled with greed. As you read
on and understand that it wasn't a direct result of
not in direct contradiction to God's word, but he was
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rejecting it in his heart, so his greed had kind
of come up with a way. You can read about
this in numbers thirty one sixteen come up with a
way to help Israel's enemies. Will not directly disobeying the
Lord's command to speak only the words that he would
give to him, but he found a way to kind
of back or to corrupt Israel by allowing women to
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marry men of Israel and lead them into idolatry. And
even read about that in two Peter two fifteen. I
hope that that helps Donna. Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
Hi, thank you for taking my call. Love your show?
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Oh well, thank you my pleasure. How can I help you?
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Well, I do have a question. As an infant, I
was baptized and went to religious schools and always had
a very close personal relationship with Jesus. He is my savior,
and I always believe that throughout life, and now as
an adult, I have friends who say that I must
be baptized again in order to have salvation, which really,
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for me doesn't make too much sense because I've always
had a personal relationship with Jesus since I could remember.
And my question is, must I be baptized again? And
if so, where would I even get baptized? Since my
church does not do I don't think they do second baptisms.
I've never heard of it.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Now, you still go to the same church, Okay? Is
it a Protestant or a Catholic church.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
It's a Catholic church.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
No, there's no need to be baptized again.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
And can you explain why?
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Well, because it's not one. It's not a mandate for
salvation the way the other person is saying. Salvation comes
from the blood on the cross, not from any act
that you do. Although that there are things that will manifest.
Now Catholics and Protestants believe differently here as well. But
I will say this that if you are a believer
in the Catholic Church and the structure of the Catholic Church,
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they're not the ones telling you to do it. It's
an outside individual telling you to do it. Which is
why I say, if you're still you know, believing and
attending and a part of the Catholic Church, then no,
you're taking care of that is by their structure and
their belief. If for some reason you became a Protestant
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and at some point you wanted to be baptized as
a Protestant because you're an adult and now it's your choice,
or something like that. There's nothing wrong with that. I'm
leery of groups that say, hey, we want to baptize
you in our belief system. That to me can be
signs of something a little screwy. If they know you're
Catholic and they're saying, hey, but you know, if you
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come over here, we'll get you baptized and make things right.
If they start saying things like that, I would raise
an eyebrow And I'm not sure if that's the path
they're going down. It's what it sounds like to me.
But ultimately, Donna, if you were baptized in the Catholic
Church as a child and you're still in the Catholic Church,
why spend the time getting baptized again. You haven't changed
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your belief system in any way, shape or form, and
there's no reason to do that. You're not being asked
by your own to do it, and so it's really
someone else's agenda who isn't here to explain what that
is or why they believe that Baptism is a beautiful,
beautiful thing, and it is one thing in the family
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of Christians, both Catholics and Protestants, where there is discussion.
There are those that think that it should be infants,
like our Catholic brothers and sisters, and there are those
that believe it should be adults. That there is a
time of understanding when a human being goes no. I
want to make this decision on my own and get
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it done. But these are in house discussions. But in
your case, doesn't sound like they're any purpose whatsoever. Jeff,
Welcome to Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Hello Jesus.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Well, hello Jeff, how can I help you?
Speaker 3 (13:48):
How does one know they are assured of salvation?
Speaker 1 (13:52):
You're well, the question is a healthy one. But you know,
the principles of salvation deal with, you know, giving your
life to Christ. Have you mean exactly, Well, it means
that there's a lot of things that drive your life,
you know, sex, drugs, rock and roll, whatever it may be,
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and whoever's at the wheel is the one controlling it,
whether that be you and self worship and that it's
all about you, or whether the principles that are are
in scripture and the things that are taught in the
Judeo Christian precepts are part of your life. If they're not,
it's like it's it's like you asking me right now, Well,
what does a relationship mean? Well, it's when you put
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somebody in a place of importance in your life. You
exchange ideas, you propel yourself based on that relationship, protecting
it and understanding it, ever deepening it. It's it's a process.
It's not just one particular day. But as far as salvation,
the word itself means security, safety. The purpose of it deliverance,
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The purpose of it is to underst that there is
a God that loves you, that created you, that wants
to have a relationship with you, and once to guide
your life, wants you to understand his will because he's
the maker and his will is what will help you
to live efficiently in a way that is just and
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loving towards the rest of creation. And if you rebel
against those ways and you continue to just do it
however you want, then you're not in that place with God. However,
if you put God first and you have given your
life to God, truly to God, that is salvation. It's
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said in scripture that if you confess your sins and
that God is faithful and just to forgive. That if
you confess before man that God is your savior, if
you believe. Some people talk about it as the sinner's prayer,
and that's for God to be in your life. God,
I give my life to you. You are the center
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of my life. I want you to direct my life
for here on out. I will see myself as a Christian.
Respond to those that ask that I am a Christian,
not because they're looking for a label, but because the
word means to be a follower of the anointed One,
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and that if you find yourself in a good Bible
teaching church and you're reading God's word, then you're in
that relationship and you're your experience and receiving that salvation.
That's what it means. Michael, Welcome to Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Thanks for having me my pleasure.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
What's going on?
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Well, I just wanted to know, you know, we only
in one Bible, and there's only one Jesus, and it
seems like today there's so many different interpretations and understandings
of the Gospel, and I'm just kind of curious to
know or at what point did we get off track?
And why is it that when you ask somebody what
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the gospel is, you get so many different variations of
an answer.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Well different, Just because different people have different perceptions doesn't
mean that there's different gospels, per se. I mean, you
work right, Michael, You go to work correct, okay, and
they see you one way, and maybe your family sees
you another way. And when you were in high school
and you come home with your friends, your friends would
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see you one way, your parents would see you another way.
But you're still only one person, and there is only
one truth. You just are, you know, a little different
in this sense, a little different that sense, but it
doesn't mean it's a different you. Now the gospel, there's
only one gospel, and it's simple. For God so loved
the world that he gave his only begotten son, that
whoever believes in him shall have everlasting life. That's the gospel.
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Gospel just means good news. The good news is that
life can be rough and there can be things that
go on here, but there is a payment, a way
out for the sins that are that people are accountable
for here on earth, and that's through the death on
the cross and the resurrection. That doesn't change. If anybody
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tells you something different than that, then it's not the
Gospel of Scripture. It's whatever they believe. Now, if you're
talking about the books the Gospels Matthew, Luke, and John,
that you have what you are called the synoptic Gospels Matthew, Mark,
and Luke, meaning that they're similar in what they're describing.
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They're looking at similar accounts and describing them, and then John,
which is slightly different and coming from a slightly different perspective.
The hope is that taking all of those into account,
you see the best picture possible through the eyes of
man as to what took place or what the important
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thing is about that good news.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Right, I guess I understand. This seems kind of interesting
because many people think that I feel like they have
the needs to go and perfect themselves in the flesh
and kind of follow the same commandments. And it's even
you know, we see so many people in the church
who are basically, you know, trying to perfect their body
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here and they're using Christs simply for this life, and
it seems like they're not interested in Him for the
next life.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
That's a really interesting observation and I'm not going to
say that that's not true. Of course, there are people
who do that, but they're not mutually exclusive. There's nothing
wrong with h here's the truth. You will not hit
perfection in this world, but on the way, on that
path to perfection, you can hit excellence, and there's nothing
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wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with allowing God to
purify you while you're here to be the best you
you can while you're here. There's nothing wrong with that.
You won't be perfect, of course not, but why not
be a better you? Why not allow God to continue
to cleanse you, to be a better you while you're here.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
I'm right, You're right.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
That's not something that it's beneficial to everyone around you.
The Ten Commandments are there to keep you on that track.
You should be checking yourself against them, to make sure
that you're not getting to a place of being coveting
people's whether it's their husbands, their wives, their cars, their home.
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There's a lot of things that are good for you
to keep in mind in the process of that cleansing.
It says in scripture that God alone is the author
and the finisher of your faith. So not only if
faith alone exists, because of God, but also the purification process.
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The perfection of your faith comes from God as well,
and part of that takes place while you're here on
this earth. But if you get lost in church and
it's just about well being the best you and you
see all these kind of I know they're very popular
when you come across television. Preachers are very famous, often
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selling lots of books. It's a lot of it has
to tie into things that seem more like motivational speaking
than it does about the Gospel. And I get that too.
I know that it seems like it's missing the mark
a little bit, but that's part of the process as well,
getting people on board done understand that there is things
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to be learned and to be utilized and applied to
your life here in the now. Otherwise God wouldn't put
you here, Michael, you're here. Did He put you here
just to wait to get to heaven? No, there's stuff
to do, and part of it is purification, right.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
I totally agree. This seems like a lot of people
wanting to justify themselves based on their works that they
do here.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Yeah, it's human nature. You're right, it does happen. Happens
a lot people get lost in the works and looking
at what people are doing and how they're doing it,
and forget the entirety of the process. But fruit on
a tree does play a part as well. You know,
the scripture says that if you don't have if the
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tree isn't bearing fruit, there's a problem. So there should
be good works coming from somebody who believes. Now they
don't get to heaven based on them, but there should
be good works, just like a healthy fruit tree should
bear fruit.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
All right, Well, what are the like? Where are the
good works that we should be seeing coming from people
who believe that Jesus Christ is as the author and
finished or of their faith? And you know, I believe
the Bible says without faith it is impossible to please
fract So you know, what are those fruits that we
should be looking for.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
There should be the desire to purify yourself. There should
be a desire to share your faith, and not in
an overbearing way, but in a way, as one Peter
three fifteen says, to be ready to first sanctify Jesus's
Lord in your life. But moving forward, to be ready
to give a defense or an answer to those who
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ask about the hope that lies within you with meekness
and reverence. That is to say that when people ask
you about why you are different because of the things
you do, whether you're helping those around you that need help,
whether you are standing up for someone you don't know,
whether you are not joining the hordes or the mobs
or the masses that are going one way and you're
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going the other direct direction because you believe it to
be the direction of God. That when you do those things,
those works, people will ask you why are you different?
Why at a funeral do you shed tears but still
have hope? You know why? When you are struggling through
a process of learning something or knowing something, do you
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still believe that? All these things tend to push people
back to you asking well, why how come you're able
to do this when others are not? And you can
point them to the gospel, and through that process you
are growing and purifying. Yet you're passing that along to
others as well. You're being a good person. You're learning
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to do those things that glorify God and show that
you care.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
That's great. Well, I appreciate taking my phone call.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Of course, excellent question.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
And I appreciate you lifting up Jesus, because it seems like,
like you said earlier, a lot of these some of
these preachers on TV are more like life pass now
don't even hear the name of Jesus, but see them
opening your Bible. So I appreciate what you're doing, appreciate my.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Question, Thanks Michael. And it's not to say that these
preachers don't have a place. There is there are things.
I mean, even Paul talked about the unknown God and
the altar to the Unknown God, and it wasn't about
preaching Jesus in name, but it was about preaching me
in concept to get people's attention. And sometimes there's so
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many distractions. That's some of these preachers use that as
a tool to get people involved in hearing the truth
before they can naturally reject it based on up they said, Jesus,
I'm running the other direction. And that's that's fine. This
is a whole different thing. All glory to God, of course,
all all of these scenarios, but this is a different
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type of thing. We too, you know, use our own
way to get your attention on this program in hopes
of you maybe hearing some truth and learning some things.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Me.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
I like to focus on the things that are of
great importance. And if this allows this venue allows us
the opportunity to talk about those in a comfortable manner,
then praise God and all glory goes to him. There
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was an article that came out. I won't get into
all the details of it because it's not It's one
you've probably heard many times before. Each with each new
generation or each new group, there an article comes out
about how they're rejecting religion. Now I'll tell you that
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it is the norm. Every younger generation wrestles with the
faith of their fathers, and I use that as just
a term. It's gonna be the faith of their mothers
as well. But in that process of growing and wanting
to find themselves, there is a lot of pressure to
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adapt to what other people are doing as well. And
if it looks to be just a thing for adults,
if it looks to be something that doesn't seem to
understand modern times, then by definition, the faith and the
belief just becomes ancient. It looks ancient, it sounds ancient,
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It is ancient. I want no part of it because
I'm modern, so says the young millennial. Now it is
the age old problem of the adults and those that
have practiced the faith to not want anything to change,
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and the youth that need the faith but don't want
to practice it in the old ways want to see
it modify and grow. And this happens in scripture. There's
stories of the new temple being built, and all the
old folks didn't like it because they remember the other
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way the temple used to be and that's what they loved.
And then the new the younger generation, loved it because
while it's more modern, it has all of these things.
I will tell you this. If religion does not grow,
if it is not living, breathing, if faith is not
something that, like a branch of a tree, continues to
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grow and change and be pruned and bring forth fruit,
it will die. You may not understand the ways of
the youth or the desires of the youth. You may
not understand they're once. But I will tell you this
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without it becoming some sort of a liberal belief. And
I don't use that in the political sense, but in
the sense that you just want to pull apart scripture
to the point where it's wishy washy and it means
nothing and no one's accountable nobody wants that, and I
would never call upon that. Surprisingly enough people that listen
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to the show think that it's going to be a
mockery of faith and that are surprised at the hard
line we do take on things that are important, but
also hopefully on the flip side, you learn something, and
when we talk about things like homosexuality and the laws
and marriage, that you see things different as well, and
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that you learn and that you're capable of grow, growing
and understanding that there's something different about being a Christian
versus being an American and learning all of the variables
in between, so that there's growth. And I tell you
these things because you, if you are on the older spectrum,
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need to understand what the needs of the younger spectrum
is and learn to adapt. And you on the younger
spectrum need to know that if you water it down
to where it has no backbone, it will have zero
value to you now or in the future. And in
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the process of watering something down, it loses the entirety
of its value. There's a point where if you put
the old joke about going to Las Vegas and them
watering down your drinks, that you put enough water in
the beverage. It's no longer an alcoholic beverage. It's not
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just water, and to do that is to remove all
of the power of what scripture has. So may the
balance be met by both of you Until next week.
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