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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand. Gwen,
Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Oh thank you for taking my call, my pleasure. I
have a life situation and I guess I just want
your opinion. I've made the decision pretty much, but I'm
still struggling with it a bit. So I've not applied
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wisdom in my life. I'm sixty two, and I've made
terrible life choices as far as husband's.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
And d's husband's plural.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Huh, Well, seven years I was not a Christian. Then
the second was twenty three years, and I left with
cause and single for nine and then now I made
a terrible mistake and married an abuse of man after
five months and getting back with him twenty times over
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a year and a half, I did file for divorce.
It's just not quite final, and I'm struggling with not
having biblical grounds. Although my pastor, who's quite.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Well wait, wait, wait, what what do you mean you
don't have biblical ground? Do you think the Bible wants
you to stay in an abusive relationship?
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Well, that's exactly what my pastor says. He says, it's
not God's well for me to be treated this way. No,
and not a single friend or family member is supportive
of it.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
First, First, Peter three seven says, likewise, husbands live with
your wives in an understanding way, showing honor to the woman. Now,
how is that?
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Yeah that never happened.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Yeah, that's there. There there, You don't have this. People
get very wrapped up in scripture as if every single
word there's there, there's a word for everything. There is
nowhere in scripture that says don't chew glass and swallow
it right there. Never. But but I would tell you
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that it is not God's will for you to chew
glass and swallow it unless I guess you're a you know,
sideshow person. But uh, there, there there's no reason. There's
all kinds of people look for scripture at scripture in
different ways, so they would look for what it says
on divorce. But it's not about divorce. This is about
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self preservation. This is about self defense if you're being mistreated,
and that's a different thing, and you need to be
confident that if you are being mistreated, that God is
not blessing.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
That that's true.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
And I'm comfortable with that. But I still took my vows.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Well, I'll tell you this. I wouldn't suggest you get
married again. You're not good at it. I'm not, No,
it's just I mean, I know that sounds a little mean.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
But I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
But at this point, you've kind of proven that you're
not really good at choosing partners, and so maybe find
something else to do than collecting husbands.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
True, I do have a very full life, but you know,
you're getting older. I always hope to have a companion
at least, you know, I think that's natural. But sure
it's just too dangerous for me.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Well, if you you know, if if you keep making
if you keep making poor decisions, then there's work that
needs to be done. It doesn't mean that you won't
have people in your life, or you won't have people
to enjoy and to love and these types of things
in your life. It just means that this is something
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that you obviously haven't worked out.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Right and right.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
And it's very difficult to bring somebody that harms you
into your life without you seeing a little something, a
little warning something.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
I had plenty of warnings, and I ignored them. I
tend to just effort. It could be a good quality,
but in my case, I don't think it is I
only see the good. I don't see I ignore the bad.
It's like I need to really look at both things.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
I think, Well, you know what's interesting is if if
you were to come across a bowl of soup and
in that bowl of soup are those shards of glass
we talked about and you could see them, you wouldn't
eat them. If there's something about human beings, when you
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see something so literal in front of you, you go,
that's going to harm me. I won't ingest that. But
with human beings, you think, ah, I could maybe change this,
or it will get better time.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Whatever it is to break the good part is pretty good,
even though it's only ten percent of the time.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
This is a little different than you know, eating the
hay and leaving the sticks. This is, you know, a
human being who can hurt you or do bad things
to you or and you need to protect yourself from that.
And in this particular case, there's there's no reason why
scripture or God would tell you to stay in a
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marriage where you're being harmed.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Thank you so much. That's you know. I just it'll
be final soon. And I didn't at least didn't stay
longer in five months.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Oh yes, thankfully, a lot. Thankfully. I don't want you
in that relationship, but I want you to, Gwen. I
want you to really find time for yourself. I want
you to learn more about yourself, why you make the
decisions you make, and and really enjoy your own time.
Enjoy yourself, Explore the things that you're curious about or
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that you really enjoy, hobbies, what have you? Explore those things,
embrace those things, and get to know yourself because I
don't want you. I know you had a long span
in between those relationships, but I don't want you to
get into any bad habits or to bring something into
your life that's not going to be healthy or helpful.
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I think it's time for you to just to learn
a little bit about you. And there's something about that
comes with that. I think people It sounds strange, but
I think sometimes people bring in relationships in their life
to avoid getting to know themselves, which I know seems
a little odd. But when people fear knowing more about themselves,
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learning more about themselves, or learning to love themselves and
enjoy their own company, that can be a little overwhelming
to some people and they end up getting into someone
in their life that's just distraction, someone in their life
that will somehow keep them from having to deal with
their own issues. And that could be even getting somebody
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in your life that has their own issues that are
bigger than yours. But it's never a good thing. It
doesn't it's not helpful, and it's not productive. And then
I want you to really hear what Gwen said, because
I've brought this up many many times on the program,
and doesn't mean that women are at fault or even
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men that get into these relationships are at fault, but
you do play a part in it that when you
see those warning signs, and I know some warning signs
are difficult to read. It's just you know, human nature.
Some people have weird sense of humor and sensees of
humor and might be playful or what have you, and
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maybe even a dark sense of humor, whatever it might be,
And those are hard to read. So I'm not saying
that you know everyone's a horrible person, run in the
opposite direction. But if you see real types of anger
or abuse, or you see hints of those things, or
there's patterns in there, you want to run from those things.
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You want to run away from them. You don't want
them in your life, and if you don't learn about
it early on, then you'll be faced with it later.
Deb Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
Good morning, Jesus Hi.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
I have just a couple of minutes here. How can
I help you?
Speaker 6 (08:34):
Well, thank you for taking my call. My question is
after the resurrection, because you were in bodily forms while
you were on earth, did you regain your omni attributes.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
That's an interesting question. The omni attributes are not separate
in the same way that you might think that the question.
As we've said on the show many times, any question
you ask of me, you have to ask twice or
it has to be answered twice because really has to
deal with in my human state or as deity. So
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it gets a little confusing. But obviously, as when you
have the omni attributes, omnipotence, omniscience, omnipresent, all of those things,
it's I couldn't be omnipresent in the flesh, can't be
everywhere at once when I'm in the flesh. But as
far as the omni omni attributes being with me, they're
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always with me, always capable of them. But in the physicalness.
In that state, those omni attributes are not enacted in
the same way. So they never left. They weren't They
weren't granted or taken away or something like that. It's
just the usage of them is different in the flesh,
so and also in the flesh, even omniscience are knowing everything.
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These types of things, you're they manifest different, but absolutely
had them after the resurrection, before the resurrection, just in
different states. They're not They're not used the same way.
So imagine yourself to be Oh, let's say this is
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going to be a little a little crass, but imagine
yourself being handcuffed or something or somehow limited in some way.
You still have those attributes, the ability to use your hands,
you don't have the ability to use them in the
same way in the same sense at the same time.
And similarly, there are bindings that change those in the
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physical state, but they're always there, always had access to
them and could do it at any time or anything
like that, so they never went away and then came back.
The omni attributes are actually a very interesting thing to
study because you're really dealing with God coming in the flesh,
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and the flesh has limitations, has limitations with death and
decay as well. It gets old, it gets sick, and
all of these things. So the physical body is not
perfect in any way, shape or form. Now the resurrected
body is a glorified body, and that's a little different
as well. But in the physical state, when I'm in
that physical state, there are limitations in that state, but
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they aren't limitations to me. There are limitations in that state.
It's the state which has the limitations, not me, And
I know that gets confusing, but you have to see
them as separate things. You can't run when you're in
a car, but you can still run. You just can't
while you're in the car. You'd have to get out
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of the car to run. And in that sense, in
the physical body, there are limitations on that body, not
on me. On that body and in that body, those
things aren't necessarily done, but they could be done at
any time by removing that coil, should it be necessary. Mike,
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Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 7 (12:14):
Hello, Jesus. I had an uncle who died. I think
it was about six maybe seven years ago. Excuse me
and his wife. His widowed wife calls in a celebration
from all of the family that can afford it throughout
the country to celebrate his life on his birthday each year.
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And I'm wondering if it's if it's if it's good
to do that, if it's mentally good, or consciously or
spiritually or mortally good to do that. I'm wondering if
it's normal. I'm wondering if if it's something like a seance.
I'm wondering if it's a necessity. I wonder if it's
good for the dead. I wonder if it cross references
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with what you said when you said leave the dead
to the dead.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
I think those are legitimate questions. However, I will say,
are there any things that going on that resemble a
Sunds No, not that it's just a celebration of life.
Speaker 7 (13:17):
That's right, Nothing wrong with that, Okay.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Now.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
The thing is that it's very sweet if it's done
properly and for those, like you said, those can afford
or can participate, great If not, it's merely a celebration.
In the United States, there's many commemorative days of those
that have passed, past presidents and the like great leaders.
Martin Luther King day. You've got Caesar Chaves Day. You've
got all kinds of days where they recognize people for
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things that they've done, and it may fall on their birthday,
may not, But there's nothing wrong with celebrating someone's life.
I think the opposite of that sometimes can be a
little tragic that people think that once someone's passed away,
at their legacy and the things that they've done are gone.
And I think it's normal to dust off the photos,
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to get everybody around and say, hey, let's talk about
the neat things so and so did in our lives
and that we got to see and to participate in,
so that it keeps those things, not them alive. You're
not trying to contact them or keep them alive in
some weird way. You're keeping their memories alive and celebrating
the things that they did while they were alive. And
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I think that's perfectly aoka, OK, you're welcome. I think
it's actually a very sweet thing to do as well.
It doesn't need to be a big to do necessarily,
but I think it's lovely. They do it for all
kinds of people throughout history. There's no reason why you
couldn't do it about your own people in your family. Now,
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when it says that you know, let the dead take
care of their dead, that was about a specific thing
that was going on in my ministry, that there were
things that I needed to get done, and that people
sometimes confuse some of the things that were said that
it's like, oh, well, that means you shouldn't care about
your dead or anything. No, sometimes that there are things
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that are more pressing, for instance, in you know, a
war situation or things like that, that really there is
a focus that if someone dies, the triage is to
look towards those that are living and to take care
of them. And in that case there is a triage
of sorts. But it doesn't mean you don't care about
your dead. That that's not the takeaway at all. Miguel,
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Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Hello, Hi there, How.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Can I help you?
Speaker 5 (15:40):
Hi?
Speaker 4 (15:42):
I've struggled with drug addictions, you know, for quite some
time in my life, and recently I got on this
program that because I was using heroin and it's a
drug that allows you to taper off without having you know,
serious physical withdrawals.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Yes, they cause you know, relapse like methadone or something, Right.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Methode exactly. Okay, I was just wondering if it's like
considered a sin to be using that.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Well, it's it's prescribed, right, this is under the supervision
of medical professional.
Speaker 7 (16:19):
Right.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
No, they're they're they're using it medicinally to get you
to a point where you won't be on it at all, right,
And it's part of your prescribed health maintenance to get
you to a place where you don't have it in
your system anymore. It's not it's not long term. It's
to taper off slowly because your body has become very
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attached to and addicted to the chemical properties of.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
The heroin, right, I mean, at some point doesn't it
be I mean, if it's if you're just taking too
long with the program, because I know there's people who
have been on there for like five ten years, you.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Know, And to me, it's you should have a set
you should have a set understanding as to when you're
going to come off it, and there should be a
goals and set in that process for you to taper
off it. If it's just using it as a legal
way to get high, then no, that's not healthy and
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you need to have those you need to be speaking
with your doctor and aggressively looking to use this to
help you wean you off of the drug by way
of those the intense withdrawals. But if you're not, if
you're looking at it like, hey, you know, I'm on
this and I'm fine and I don't need to get
off it, then yeah, there would be a problem.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Okay. So as long as I'm I have a taper
set and I'm sticking to that, I'm working towards getting
off it, then I mean in your eyes, you know,
then it would be okay.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Yes, because that's that is your goal to get off it,
and that you are now under the medical supervision of
somebody that's accountable to you and you're accountable to them,
and then you're you're focused on those goals and really
try and achieve and hit those goals. And I know
it's scary, but I want you to look towards that
and know that I'm very proud of you because it's
a it's a hard step to take and to move
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towards that and say, Okay, my goals, what's the normal
goals and what's the normal expectations from your doctor and
try and hit those goals just like you would in
anything else that you're doing. And if you're you're progressing
and going down that path, I think you're in a
healthy place. If you're using it just as a legal
way to get high, then there's a problem.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Oh okay, yeah, no, not that at all.
Speaker 7 (18:35):
Good.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
I'm proud of you. That's a It's an incredibly difficult
hurdle to jump over, and just to be accountable to
a doctor or a medical professional I think is a
huge step.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Okay, well, thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
God bless you.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
Me Gal.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
You're you can do this, and you just have to
really set those goals for yourself and be accountable and
that's what's going to get you to that next step.
Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. Hi, Hilen, How could
I help you?
Speaker 5 (19:06):
Very unsatisfied with many areas of my life, including where
I live and finding a job and relationships. And I
say that I'm Christian, I believe in God, but I
feel like I'm not acting that way and that is
why I'm so unsatisfied. And I don't know how to
bridge the gap between saying I believe in actually believing.
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I don't know what. I don't know how to help myself.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Well, that's a pretty that's a great observation, though, the
fact that you're at a place where you can see
that there is a lot of people that just say
the words and and think that they're done that it's
just all you got to do is say this. There's
a story in scripture where someone is walking behind me
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saying all kinds of things, this is the one, this
is the Messiah that the scriptures had spoken about, and
this is the one, and he's great in all this.
And I turn and say, get behind me, Satan, and
everybody's like, well, wow, where did that come from? But
it was because somebody was only giving me mouth service,
which is worse than just being a non believer because
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it can be very difficult and confusing to other people
around you. So the fact that you recognize that there's
times where that you you that you want it and
there's times that you're not living it, I think shows
more about your character than you may may think. But
and your faith. Actually, So when you say that you're
not living it, what does that mean? Got a got
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a dirty mouth, You're doing drugs, sleeping around? What's what's
the issue?
Speaker 5 (20:38):
I just I feel like I say I believe and
I want to believe that there's a big part of
me that's like it's not real and there's and I
have straight away I liked going to Bible study and
learning like the context of the Bible, and I just
I was in a relationship with an atheist, and I
just kind of it's just straighted me away from like
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believing in the actual scripture at all.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
But I want to well, there's nothing wrong with having doubt.
Doubt just has to propel you forward. It can't be
something that paralyzes you from finding information. So many people
have doubt, and you're going to have doubt throughout your life.
There's going to be things that make you question will
am I on the right path? And that's good because
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then you're constantly rechecking yourself to make sure you're on
the right path. Different people will come in your life,
and atheists aren't bad people. On the contrary, most atheists
have a very strong moral structure in their life. Where
it comes from that's a little harder to pin down.
But if you're swayed by the people around you, you
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need to strengthen yourself before you bring certain types of
people or certain people into your life. Now, as far
as you believing or feeling those things. What is the
hurdle that you see in your life? Why do you
think you're not making that connection with God or that
second or next step in your faith?
Speaker 5 (22:08):
I just I can't be satisfied with anything. I feel
like there's always something better, There's something more I can
be doing. There's I need to further my career even
though I can't get the first step done, and I
need to do all these things that I just I'm
overwhelmed with all these choices and I'm having a hard
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time making them.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
So you're a little you're a little unfocused. Is this
in other parts of your life as well?
Speaker 5 (22:37):
I'm very I guess right now, my main thing is
I love my job, and I'm having a hard time
seeing getting a relationship and having a family and if
that's the right thing for me, and if that's what
I'm supposed to do. And am I supposed to go
back overseas and travel the world or am I supposed
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to settle down and have a family. I don't know
what the right choices are anymore.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Well, I think people get overwhelmed with the concept of
like decisions or things, but really you use the right word.
Most things are choices. There are certain things God doesn't
want you to do. Absolutely doesn't want you to go
on a murderous rampage things like that. But whether you're
going to get married or not get married, those are
choices that you can have. Whether you're overseas or here,
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those are choices you can have. You'll know when there's
something that God doesn't want you to participate in. Doesn't
want you to make a living doing pornography, doesn't want
you to sell drugs for a living on the streets.
There's things that are not choices. You can't do those
things because they're not healthy for you. But there's other
things like where you live or things like that that
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are choices of yours, and then God's going to grow
you in those areas. But you have to make them.
You have to go, Okay, this is not going to
make or break me. I'm going to move and if
I don't like it, I'll move back. But I think
when people get caught up been like is this the
right thing I should be doing or the wrong Most
of the time, it's just flavor. It's just choice. You
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You you wouldn't stress over chocolate or vanilla. Would you
you'd to have vanilla and if you didn't like it,
you go, well, then I'll have chocolate next time. But
it's it's not Most decisions are not make or break,
or choices rather or not make or break. I think
the word decision makes people panic, like there's a wrong
answer and there's gonna be these big x's in the
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sky going eh, then you're going to have to move on.
I think trust, trust your instincts, be prayerful in the
things that you do, but know that that it's an
adventure and it's okay to be on that adventure. Living
your faith is an ongoing process, and you will continue
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to be wrestling with it in till you're done. In
Hebrews twelve too, it says that I Jesus am the
author and finisher or perfector of your faith. There's an
ongoing cleansing process that is taking place in your life, honing, sharpening,
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focusing your belief. We've talked a lot about the difference
between straight up knowledge versus wisdom. Today, knowledge is just
facts figures. Wisdom is the proper application of those facts
and figures, the knowledge that you have applying it to
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your life. So if you're in a place where you
feel like you know things about God, you know things
about Christianity or your faith, but you're not really applying them.
Now's the time to apply them. There won't be a response.
Imagine this, if you drink poison and there's a pill
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that will the antidote that will reverse the effects of
that poison, and it's sitting right in front of you.
You can know that that pill does that. You can
know that that's what it's for. You can know that
if you take it you'll be well. But if it
still sits there in front of you, it means nothing.
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It might as well be a tic tac. It could
be a jellybean. What makes things have value, what makes
knowledge valuable is its application. If you're in a place
in your faith where you just know things, or even worse,
think you know things, because let's face it, I hear
people rip Christianity apart on a daily basis, But unfortunately
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what they're ripping apart is a straw man. It has
nothing to do with Christianity, has nothing to.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
Do with me.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
It's false history and false information. And they pull it
apart and say, see it's wrong, But it's not Christianity
at all. So first the information has to be correct,
and then the information has to be applied, and if
it's not, there'll be a problem. But when you think
about acting like a Christian or acting like a person
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of faith, it's not a fake it till you make
it type situation per se. I don't want you to
act like anything. I want you to believe and have
faith and let that act change.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
You.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Have a blessed Mother's day, Love your mothers, be with them,
and remember these simple words, I Am with you always.
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