June 29, 2025 • 34 mins
He's doing what with AI? Beach Umbrella Safety in the Spotlight After Lifeguard Impaled. Operator, employee of Bellflower company are charged in $1 million crypto investment scheme. John Robbins, Author of ‘Diet for a New America,’ Dies at 77.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Mark Thompson's sitting in and just taking some time out
of prepping for my big YouTube show, The Mark Thompson
Show on YouTube, kind of a politics and news thing.
You ever in the neighborhood of YouTube, Please subscribe. It's free,
it's the it's price to move my show. I mentioned
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Mark Zuckerberg and the fact that he's putting together these
pay packages at Meta formerly Facebook, and you can guess
where the emphasis is now at Meta. You know, the
meta world is interesting to me because you remember when
he put those billions of dollars it was tens of
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billions of dollars into the metaverse. The word meta and
the rebranding of Facebook as Meta kind of came out
of that metaverse craze. Everything was going to be in
the metaverse. We were going to meet in the metaverse.
There were going to be concert venues in the metaverse.
The metaverse is going to be a place where they're
going to be virtual cities. And that's still all maybe percolating,
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I don't know, but there was a time when it
just seemed as though it was going to happen, like
you know, at noon tomorrow. Now whenever it's going to happen,
or the degree to which it's happening has sort of
been put off. But what's replaced it is what AI.
And AI is proving itself to be as transformational as
everybody had said it would be. And so to Zuckerberg
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and these compensation packages. He's putting together huge compensation packages
related to AI. Apparently he spent months putting together a
list of the top AI engineers and researchers across the globe,
and he wants to offer these people potential recruits, right,
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lucrative compensation packages. And he's trying to poach AI talent
from a lot of competitors. So how do you put
together the perfect package? You offer up to one hundred
million dollars, which is what he's doing. He's personally reaching
out to a lot of these most desirable AI developers.
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And you know this is a company Meta. Remember Meta
owns Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp, and they are competing in this
attempt to be AI dominant. The dominant AI engines really
stand to control the future. See of open AI. Google
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has its own AI right, Microsoft, Amazon, and billions of
dollars are being invested into AI research and product development,
and it's being talked about Meta as being an also ran,
like not really keeping up with the competition. They had
a rollout scheduled and then it was delayed and so
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all of a sudden, that's their flagship AI model, and
it seems like maybe it's still a little bit on
the jankie side and that's the reason that you didn't
roll it out on time. So again they invested fourteen
billion for a steak in Scale AI. And Scale ai
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is an AI founded by a guy named Alexander Wang.
Guess how old Alexander Wang is. He is the founder
of this Scale AI. And again Meta just paid for
a steak in AI. They don't own it. This is
just a piece of the party. They paid fourteen billion.
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The founder Alexander Wang is how old? Twenty eight? And
Meta wants to put Alexander Wang, twenty eight, eight year old,
in charge of its super intelligence team. That's a lab team,
an internal lab team that's going to focus on developing
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a hypothetical AI system that is smarter than humans. Google
bought out the shares in Character ai. That's a chatbot
service that just happened last year, So back to Zuckerberg
and these compensation packages. He's trying to go after all
of these recent graduate from top PhD programs at schools
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like cal in the Bay Area, Carnegie Mellon and more
and more of these deep mind project like their Google's
got a deep mind project and Open AI and you
know you've heard all of these names. Well, Zuckerberg's going
to poach all of these companies for some of their
top people. And so somebody who spoke to Zuckerberg, a recruit,
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said that he's trying to essentially this is a quote,
get a transfusion from the country's top AI labs. And
so in that process, he's offering one hundred billion dollars
to what he considers the best people in the field.
On the other side of it are all of the
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creators who are being counterfeited and undercut by AI. And
I'm talking about authors. An open letter written on Friday
about the use of AI on in creating books. It
showed up on the literary website lit hub. It's asking
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publishing houses to promise that they will never release books
that were created by machines. I see that as a
request that may not go honored. It's just so easy
for these publishers to frankenstein together all kinds of book
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on any number of subjects. They addressed, these seventy authors
did the big five US publishers Penguin, Random House, HarperCollins,
Simon and Schuster, and they got more than eleven hundred
signatures on the accompanying petition and their direct request to
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publishers on a number of different things. And AI may
already or could soon be in this publishing world, and
the letter asks them, along with the accompanying petition, hey,
please don't do this. The writing that AI produces feels cheap,
they say, because it is cheap, they continue, It feels
simple because it is simple to produce. That is the
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whole point. AI is an enormously powerful tool here to
stay with the capacity for real societal benefits, but the
replacement of art and artists isn't one of them. And
there have been lawsuits, as you know, from authors, mean
big authors are going after publishers for having balkanized their work.
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You know, they take a piece of it and they
are essentially guilty of potentially anyway copyright infringement. So these
are ongoing cases from a lot of everybody from Sarah
Silverman to Who's the Comedian? But she's also an author
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to some of the biggest names in writing. And some
of these cases are already beginning to render rulings. Federal
judges were handing down judgments in two cases like this
just on Friday of this past week. They ruled in
favor of the defendants. They ruled in favor of the
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AI companies Anthropic AI and Meta, So they dealt a
blow to these authors. And this could give AI companies
the legal right under the fair use doctrine to train
their large language models on copyrighted work and do what
I was just mentioning, essentially Frankenstein together bits of this work.
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AI is transforming everything, and that's why they're paying a
premium for AI engineers, and it will change the way
so much is done.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Around the world.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
When we come back, the beach just got a whole
lot more dangerous. And you'll never guess why.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Hey Mark Luis here, good to hear you on a
Sunday afternoon. Don't forget to promote the Mark Hanson Show
on YouTube. Hey, I does have just caused because those
people were picked up just because they happened to.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
Be at the home people on a Sunday afternoon. Anyway,
good to hear from you, buddy, I get it, Louise. Yes,
they picked up just cauts is what you're saying. Okay,
Uh Yeah. The Mark Thompson Shows on YouTube. It's a
daily show two hours live. But you can watch it
anytime or listen to it anytime. We're also on the
iHeartRadio app as a podcast. It's called the Mark Thompson Show. Yeah,
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we didn't spend a lot of time on the title,
so but thanks for that. Speaking of ICE, I would
just I think this one is related to ICE. Somebody
called in and left to talk back on this. I say,
called in, you know, use the talkback feature I just described.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
And here is that.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
In regards to I thought they were going to start
with the criminals first.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
No, I was saying that, you know, in the articulated
immigration strategy, it's we're going to start with the criminals.
We're going to start with the you know, and you
don't find them as day workers at home depot, at Low's,
et cetera. And we're just kind of talking about the
pushback on ICE, and so this gentleman is calling about
that just to put it in contact.
Speaker 6 (09:58):
So in regards to I thought they were going to
start with the criminals first, Well, when the governor refuses
to allow ICE into the prisons to get the criminals,
it forces them to go in the community. And they
plainly stated, if we have to go in the community,
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anybody we find with these people are going to.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
That's just the result of non.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Oh well that actually makes some sense, but it happens
not to be true. I don't know if you Newsom
said he's going to continue allowing the state prison system
to cooperate with ICE. So when you say, well, if
the governor would just let the ICE agents into the prisons,
we wouldn't have this problem with people going by a
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home depot. Well, he's been quite vocal about the fact
that ICE and the prison system in California will cooperate
with each other. And finally there is this let me
find this talk back which was just left here.
Speaker 7 (11:08):
So good to hear Mark Thompson, love you, love you,
love you, love you love you on Tuesdays.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
With Conway and I want to stop this for a second.
Why can't we have more like this Ritchie. This is
a very good talk back.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Let's have him keep him coming. I am very hit
that talk back. I'd like to hit this talk back.
Play this every maybe seven or eight minutes on this show.
Speaker 7 (11:29):
You hear Mark Thompson love You, love you, love you,
love you, love you, love you. You had a huge
more of a presence on air on love.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
You all from that was big, big fan love your work.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
I got love you, love you, love you, love you,
and then another thing and then love you.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
That was like huge six love you. That's more love
yous and I've got on a whole year.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
If I love love you on Sundays, I really thank you, uh,
thank you anonymous person.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
So we play it back again, No, no, we should not.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
I think I must tell you though, if you're headed
to the beach and it did feel like, you know,
we're getting into clearly some beach days, there is a bizarre,
I consider it truly bizarre warning about the latest threat
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safety threat associated with going to the beach. Usually you
associate going to the beach and those kind of safety
warnings with what riptide is like one of the big
ones to me anyway, sharks right. You know, there's also
theft on the beach. I mean this kind of thing,
but this is a threat to your physical person that
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emerges from beach umbrellas.
Speaker 8 (12:55):
A picturesque day on the Jersey Shore, beach goers taking
cover from the hot summer sun.
Speaker 9 (13:01):
All shattered in a moment.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
The um in the rough, aren't it?
Speaker 8 (13:06):
After a nineteen year old lifeguard in Asbury Park was
stabbed by her own beach umbrella.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
I gotten tailed by the umbrella.
Speaker 8 (13:15):
First responders rushing to the scene, power tools in hand.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
They need that band fall for sure.
Speaker 7 (13:20):
Here they cut the umbrella on both ends so they
couldn't move that part of it.
Speaker 9 (13:24):
It was pretty ugly, but I said, I think she's
gonna be fine.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
For her.
Speaker 8 (13:28):
It's a story all too familiar Forred Quigley.
Speaker 10 (13:31):
An umbrella is a javelin with a sale attached ed.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Oh wow, never in a million years that I can see.
We've all seen. All of us have seen umbrellas blowing
down the beach, right and and I guess we know
that the implied threat, But I never thought of it
as like a jablin that potentially could spear someone. I
mean again, I guess that's implied, but I'd never heard
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or seen or read about, it actually.
Speaker 9 (13:58):
Happened, tory all too familiar for d Quigley.
Speaker 10 (14:01):
An umbrella is a javelin with a sail attached.
Speaker 8 (14:05):
Ed nearly died after being struck in the eye by
a rope. Beach umbrella twenty fifteen in brain surgery.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
I died on the operating table.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Wow, are you kidding me?
Speaker 2 (14:18):
This guy was speared in the eye by a beach
umbrella and he went intobate brain surgery involving dying on
the table in the oar.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
This is an extraordinary story.
Speaker 9 (14:34):
Beach umbrella twenty fifteen.
Speaker 10 (14:36):
In brain surgery. I died on the operating table. Took
them twenty three minutes and seven cycles with the shock
paddles bring me back.
Speaker 8 (14:44):
Since that day, he's made it his mission to improve
beach umbrella safety. Everyone's just shocked that this is a
thing that happened so regularly.
Speaker 10 (14:52):
I think the first question to ask is did you
ever see an umbrella blowing down the beach? Everyone has, Well,
everyone's seen it, then everyone's been in a potential danger situation.
Speaker 8 (15:05):
Now, as installing these warning signs at beaches up and
down the East Coast, like here in Wildwood, New Jersey
coining beachgoers.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Wylwood, New Jerseys, where we used to vacation every summer.
Loved it, especially as a kid. They've got a big
boardwalk and all those rides and stuff. And I have
to just say this speaking of my life is a
kid at Wildwood Beaches. My mom, she grew up in
the shadow of the Depression. They had no money. She
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would hoard like sugar packets from United Airlines. It was incredible,
and I mean, I'm just kind of our life was
informed by you know, my mother really not wanted to
spend any money. We didn't have a lot of money,
but she really grew up with nothing, so it was
kind of anyway, My point is on the beach at Wildwood,
this very beach, she would not ever dream about renting
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an umbrella. It was two dollars. I mean, she would
never dream of it. I remember being scorched by the
sun and begging her to get an umbrella. Nope, never
even take a meeting on it. But wow, the idea
that these umbrellas could blow down the beach and they
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could do the kind of damage that that guy was
just describing.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
It's really truting.
Speaker 8 (16:22):
Like here in wild Wood New Jersey, pointing beachgoers to
a new voluntary safety standard for beach umbrellas from the
Consumer Product Safety Commission.
Speaker 10 (16:31):
So, over two years they tested beach umbrellas on beaches
and in wind tunnels and develop the scientific data to say,
this is what you need to keep an umbrella secure.
And basically what it is is an anchor device that
provides seventy five pounds of resistance to lift.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
That's what I was gonna suggest, Richie. I literally was
gonna say, why do they just put weights on the
bottom of it. I don't know, but they're already on it. Yeah,
all right. Meanwhile, if you go to the beach, do
be careful. You could end up like that guy in
the or and in brain surgery. Very well sourced that story.
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That was a surprise to me. Thank you, producer, Richie.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
You're welcome. Yeah, when we come back.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
A crypto investment scheme revealed right here in southern California.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
The operator and employee of a Bellflower financial services company
accused of allegedly stealing more than a million dollars, mostly
low income victims. It was a fraudulent crypto investment scheme.
Two people again the operator and then the employee of
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this financial services company in Bellflower, Jone Rios of Rancho
Cucamonga and Erwin Kavas of thirty five of Norwalk. Those
are the two thirty felon accounts involving grand theft. There's
also a forgery and another felon account with bouncing checks.
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But between twenty twenty and twenty twenty two, the two
of them operated this scheme under the guise of a
cryptocurrency mining business. This is what is alleged. The cryptocurrency
mining business was known as Zukra Platform Corporation. Now this
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is what they say. This Zukray Platform Corporation was claiming
they were going to install, maintain, and operate computing equipment
to mine crypto. You know, crypto is this thing where
its computations and computers and the more you mine it,
the more you have. So if you can actually set
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up your computer to mine crypto, you can. Essentially it's
almost like a printing press for money. But the company
had no installation, maintenance, or operation of any computing equipment
to mind cryptocurrency, and they were not a registered business
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in California, according to prosecutors, So the people who were
operating this allegedly fraudulent business tried to get victims through
their existing financial services business. And you know, you guys
are already here, you're going through all these other steps
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to handle your finances investments. We've got something for you.
We have this company, Zukra, and you should be part
of that. So they also had them obtain high limit
credit cards loans, and they were using the loan oftentimes
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to help them apply to pay into this scheme. Again,
this is all alleged by the District Attorney's office. They've
just leveled these charges against these two people from Bellflower.
So they say they told victims that the investments were
risk free, guaranteed and protected by insurance. They said to
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these clients again, quote, clients, here are written contracts. You're
going to download this mobile app, this Zoukre mobile app,
and the mobile app's going to show you all the
ongoing profits from your investments. You know, again, all this
crypto that is accumulating while you sleep, You're getting rich.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
They're saying.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Individual investments range from forty five hundred dollars to two
hundred and eighty thousand dollars, and despite repeated a hemps,
none of the victims got any returns whatsoever. The whole
thing was a fraudulent scheme and there were no ways
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in which they could even recover their principal investments, so
they lost everything in addition to gaining nothing. Prosecutors are
asking that bay will be set for each defendant at
six hundred thousand dollars. If they are convicted, they could
get what would you guess what should they get?
Speaker 3 (21:32):
In your view, the answer is twenty three years.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
I think that well, you know me, I'm tough on
law and order.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Man.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
I'm sorry you defraud people of that kind of money
with that sort of BS story, you deserve to go away.
So they're going after these people hard. From the LA
District Attorney Nathan Hawkman comes this statement. My office will
not tolerate financial predators who purport to offer legitimate services
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but instead offer lies and devastating financial loss. Let me
be clear, if you steal from our communities, whether in
the streets or through sophisticated investment or cryptos schemes, we
will find you hold you accountable to the fullest extent
of the law. So again, that's a court case that's
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being adjudicated, but that is the very latest. When we
come back, there is a notable loss. I don't know
if you'll know the name, but once I tell you
the name, actually you'll put together the puzzle pieces and
you may very well know the name. And then I'll
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kick open the door to everything this guy was all about.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
We'll get to that next.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Thanks everybody who is contributing today's show. The talkback feature
is always fun, and Richie just came in here with
another handful of talk pers. I think this is maybe
related to the ice raids. Let's see, it's a.
Speaker 11 (23:15):
Hi, justin from West Covina.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
I don't think that the raids are fair.
Speaker 11 (23:21):
Basically, the government, federal and state have let them all
come here for decades, and now they all of a
sudden want to reverse that. No, they let them in,
it's their fault, so now they need to make a
way for them to become legal after working.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
I mean, you know, he's not wrong, and the reality
is there are a lot of ways to make this work.
But the way that they're going about it, I think
is just it's nonsensical. I mean, when you pick up
a guy who's in his fifties, who has three kids,
he's a gardener. Okay, you've seen this, and the guy
was running with the weed whacker from them. He was
just he's holding this with Let's just be fair about
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what it was. He's just being chased by these Ice
agents and anyway, we'll leave let's just call it.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
We'll leave it at that. Just describe it that way.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
He's got three kids, all of them you know, serving
in the military. Yeah, three veterans. His stay here in
this country has been over decades. Now, all of a
sudden he's being deported. He's been then. I mean, he
had the stuffing beaten out of him. And I'd suggest
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that this guy who just came in on the talkback
is right. I mean, this is quite sudden. Trump could
be a hero if you would bring back something like
the Brossero program, which was designed to accommodate workers that
come here in all of these different professions. It was
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really Brossero, I think was focused mostly on aggregate culture.
But the idea was that you're allowing these immigrants to
come here understanding that they are in work programs, agriculture,
you could have it anything, agriculture, car wash, landscaping, construction,
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whatever you want. All of a sudden you are able
to track everybody, and everybody's still able to provide for
their families in the ways in which they likely arrived
in this country to begin with. That's just a thought
as an aside. I mean, that's just you know, that's
not even working through lunch, that idea. It's already existed.
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The PRASCO program was discontinued in the sixties.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
I think.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Anyway, I think something has to be worked out. It's
not working the way they have it. What else there was? Oh,
on the beach umbrella this is we had a story
if you're just joining us. Apparently beach umbrellas, if they're
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blown down the beach can literally kill people. And so
there are these advisories now on beaches coast to coast
saying be very careful with the umbrella stand and making
sure that it's secure in the sand. So this on
the Attack of the Beach Umbrellas, so coming to.
Speaker 8 (26:28):
A theater near you.
Speaker 9 (26:30):
Attack of the Killer Beach Umbrellas.
Speaker 7 (26:32):
Yes, narrated by Mark Thomas.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Oh I like it already yes, attack of the beach umbrellas.
You worried about a riptide, you worried about a tsunami,
You even worried about sharks. What you really should worry
about is attack of the beach umbrellas.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
Coming to a theater near you.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Thank you, thank you, and finally there were is this.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
I think it's a Mark.
Speaker 6 (27:03):
I love you also, and I've always enjoyed your very
common sense reporting.
Speaker 7 (27:12):
You're a great voice at KFI.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
No, that's right.
Speaker 7 (27:15):
Against the storm of sometimes not great political views are
ones that I don't necessarily agree with.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
But I have feelings of love for.
Speaker 7 (27:27):
What you do.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
Mark.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
I love, I appreciate you, and I glad to hear.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
You have love and appreciation for you.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
I take that love and appreciation, I reflect it back
and enhance it.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
I love this self serving segment, Ritchie, It's perfect. I
love it. A self aggrandizing few minutes. I wish you
could do a full two hours of just self aggrandizement.
There was a notable passing. John Robbins has passed away.
The reason I mentioned to you before you might know
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his name is because you know the name Baskin and
Robin's and that ice cream Empire is part of John
Robbin's history. He's an heir to that Baskin Robbin's fortune,
but he rejected the family business and wrote a seminal book,
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a cornerstone book advocating plant based nutrition. He was a
big one of environmentalism, animal rights. And he just died
here in California with seventy seven. His son and collaborator,
Ocean Robbins I get his newsletter regularly, said that the
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cause of his father's death was complications from a post
polio syndrome that resulted in muscle weakness and other symptoms,
nearly seven decades after he originally got polio as a boy.
His book, and this is the thing. His book is
very famous. It's called Diet for a New America. It
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was published in nineteen eighty seven, and it sold more
than a million copies. And it drew a link between
heavy consumption of animal based products and the increased risk
of chronic illnesses like heart disease and obesity. It looked
at environmental damage caused by factory farming. It raised ethical
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questions about the treatment of animals in confined conditions. So
you can see maybe why I like it because you
kind of know where the way I lean on the
environment and on animal welfare. But you can see also
how it might have a broader audience because he spoke
a very common sense message. The message was that the healthiest,
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tastiest and most nourishing way to eat is also the
most economic and most compassionate and least polluting way to eat.
That was Diet for a New America, John Robbins. I mean,
he was, and he's compared this way. He's compared to
Rachel Carson. She's the one who wrote that book Silent Spring,
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that warned about how the unlimited use of agricultural pesticides
like DDT had contaminated the soil, the water, threatened the
health of wildlife humans, and that created the modern environmental
movement that was Rachel Carson's book Silent Spring. This book,
Diet for a New America is sort of the equivalent,
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and through the years, food writers have described this book,
Diet for a New America as groundbreaking, the bible of
the anti meat campaign.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
And I get it. I'm not on a jihad. You know,
you eat anywhere you want.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
I'm just telling you why this person was of significance.
Paul McCartney read his book, totally changed the way that
he looked at factory farming, and he looked at as
McCartney said, compassion and respect for life, the earth, and
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how much better off our world will be. But he
got criticism. I mean, he was not as you might
imagine whenever you're pitching this to a nation that's really
not necessarily open to it.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
He got a lot of static, you know. But I'll
tell you why.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
I also respect him, or at least I think this
is a notable part of his bio as you look back,
is now his Obit is that he was offered a
bunch of money from this Baskin Robin's fortune. Again, he's
related to this Baskin Robin's empire, and he pushed back
on it because he didn't want that money, because of
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the fact that it was the industrial dairy process that
created that fortune. And so at least, you know, you've
got to give the guy the courage of his convictions.
He very much lamented the way that cows are treated
in the dairy business, and how Baskin Robbins is an
ice cream company really was in a sense he looked
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at it as blood money. So I think this is
an extraordinary guy, regardless of what you think of him
ultimately or you know, how you integrate his message or
don't integrate it into your life. But John Robbins, the grandfather,
I'm sorry, the son of the originator, the founder of
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Baskin Robbins, and the author of Diet for a New America.
John Robbins passes away here in California at the age
of seventy seven. There's nothing I like more than going
through a sad o bit, saying goodbye to someone who's
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made a great contribution to society, finishing that sad oh bit,
and then pivoting immediately to the next host. And that's
exactly what I am going to do. Now do we
have there's no talkback?
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Okay, Well then he's off the hook, all right, no
revn no no talkback. You don't have him raism on
the line. No, no, okay? Well it was fun. All right,
Thanks all for a great afternoon. I will see you
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soon and if you have a moment, you can check
out my show Daily Live Show on YouTube, The Mark
Thompson Show. Oh and I'll be here through Kofi this
week too, doing the Cobalt Show. I'm looking forward to
that as well. Ah, you're not really rid of me.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Kf I am six forty on demand
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Mark Thompson's sitting in and just taking some time out
of prepping for my big YouTube show, The Mark Thompson
Show on YouTube, kind of a politics and news thing.
You ever in the neighborhood of YouTube, Please subscribe. It's free,
it's the it's price to move my show. I mentioned
(00:25):
Mark Zuckerberg and the fact that he's putting together these
pay packages at Meta formerly Facebook, and you can guess
where the emphasis is now at Meta. You know, the
meta world is interesting to me because you remember when
he put those billions of dollars it was tens of
(00:47):
billions of dollars into the metaverse. The word meta and
the rebranding of Facebook as Meta kind of came out
of that metaverse craze. Everything was going to be in
the metaverse. We were going to meet in the metaverse.
There were going to be concert venues in the metaverse.
The metaverse is going to be a place where they're
going to be virtual cities. And that's still all maybe percolating,
(01:12):
I don't know, but there was a time when it
just seemed as though it was going to happen, like
you know, at noon tomorrow. Now whenever it's going to happen,
or the degree to which it's happening has sort of
been put off. But what's replaced it is what AI.
And AI is proving itself to be as transformational as
everybody had said it would be. And so to Zuckerberg
(01:36):
and these compensation packages. He's putting together huge compensation packages
related to AI. Apparently he spent months putting together a
list of the top AI engineers and researchers across the globe,
and he wants to offer these people potential recruits, right,
(01:57):
lucrative compensation packages. And he's trying to poach AI talent
from a lot of competitors. So how do you put
together the perfect package? You offer up to one hundred
million dollars, which is what he's doing. He's personally reaching
out to a lot of these most desirable AI developers.
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And you know this is a company Meta. Remember Meta
owns Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp, and they are competing in this
attempt to be AI dominant. The dominant AI engines really
stand to control the future. See of open AI. Google
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has its own AI right, Microsoft, Amazon, and billions of
dollars are being invested into AI research and product development,
and it's being talked about Meta as being an also ran,
like not really keeping up with the competition. They had
a rollout scheduled and then it was delayed and so
(03:06):
all of a sudden, that's their flagship AI model, and
it seems like maybe it's still a little bit on
the jankie side and that's the reason that you didn't
roll it out on time. So again they invested fourteen
billion for a steak in Scale AI. And Scale ai
(03:26):
is an AI founded by a guy named Alexander Wang.
Guess how old Alexander Wang is. He is the founder
of this Scale AI. And again Meta just paid for
a steak in AI. They don't own it. This is
just a piece of the party. They paid fourteen billion.
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The founder Alexander Wang is how old? Twenty eight? And
Meta wants to put Alexander Wang, twenty eight, eight year old,
in charge of its super intelligence team. That's a lab team,
an internal lab team that's going to focus on developing
(04:08):
a hypothetical AI system that is smarter than humans. Google
bought out the shares in Character ai. That's a chatbot
service that just happened last year, So back to Zuckerberg
and these compensation packages. He's trying to go after all
of these recent graduate from top PhD programs at schools
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like cal in the Bay Area, Carnegie Mellon and more
and more of these deep mind project like their Google's
got a deep mind project and Open AI and you
know you've heard all of these names. Well, Zuckerberg's going
to poach all of these companies for some of their
top people. And so somebody who spoke to Zuckerberg, a recruit,
(04:56):
said that he's trying to essentially this is a quote,
get a transfusion from the country's top AI labs. And
so in that process, he's offering one hundred billion dollars
to what he considers the best people in the field.
On the other side of it are all of the
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creators who are being counterfeited and undercut by AI. And
I'm talking about authors. An open letter written on Friday
about the use of AI on in creating books. It
showed up on the literary website lit hub. It's asking
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publishing houses to promise that they will never release books
that were created by machines. I see that as a
request that may not go honored. It's just so easy
for these publishers to frankenstein together all kinds of book
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on any number of subjects. They addressed, these seventy authors
did the big five US publishers Penguin, Random House, HarperCollins,
Simon and Schuster, and they got more than eleven hundred
signatures on the accompanying petition and their direct request to
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publishers on a number of different things. And AI may
already or could soon be in this publishing world, and
the letter asks them, along with the accompanying petition, hey,
please don't do this. The writing that AI produces feels cheap,
they say, because it is cheap, they continue, It feels
simple because it is simple to produce. That is the
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whole point. AI is an enormously powerful tool here to
stay with the capacity for real societal benefits, but the
replacement of art and artists isn't one of them. And
there have been lawsuits, as you know, from authors, mean
big authors are going after publishers for having balkanized their work.
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You know, they take a piece of it and they
are essentially guilty of potentially anyway copyright infringement. So these
are ongoing cases from a lot of everybody from Sarah
Silverman to Who's the Comedian? But she's also an author
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to some of the biggest names in writing. And some
of these cases are already beginning to render rulings. Federal
judges were handing down judgments in two cases like this
just on Friday of this past week. They ruled in
favor of the defendants. They ruled in favor of the
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AI companies Anthropic AI and Meta, So they dealt a
blow to these authors. And this could give AI companies
the legal right under the fair use doctrine to train
their large language models on copyrighted work and do what
I was just mentioning, essentially Frankenstein together bits of this work.
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AI is transforming everything, and that's why they're paying a
premium for AI engineers, and it will change the way
so much is done.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Around the world.
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When we come back, the beach just got a whole
lot more dangerous. And you'll never guess why.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Hey Mark Luis here, good to hear you on a
Sunday afternoon. Don't forget to promote the Mark Hanson Show
on YouTube. Hey, I does have just caused because those
people were picked up just because they happened to.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
Be at the home people on a Sunday afternoon. Anyway,
good to hear from you, buddy, I get it, Louise. Yes,
they picked up just cauts is what you're saying. Okay,
Uh Yeah. The Mark Thompson Shows on YouTube. It's a
daily show two hours live. But you can watch it
anytime or listen to it anytime. We're also on the
iHeartRadio app as a podcast. It's called the Mark Thompson Show. Yeah,
(09:15):
we didn't spend a lot of time on the title,
so but thanks for that. Speaking of ICE, I would
just I think this one is related to ICE. Somebody
called in and left to talk back on this. I say,
called in, you know, use the talkback feature I just described.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
And here is that.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
In regards to I thought they were going to start
with the criminals first.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
No, I was saying that, you know, in the articulated
immigration strategy, it's we're going to start with the criminals.
We're going to start with the you know, and you
don't find them as day workers at home depot, at Low's,
et cetera. And we're just kind of talking about the
pushback on ICE, and so this gentleman is calling about
that just to put it in contact.
Speaker 6 (09:58):
So in regards to I thought they were going to
start with the criminals first, Well, when the governor refuses
to allow ICE into the prisons to get the criminals,
it forces them to go in the community. And they
plainly stated, if we have to go in the community,
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anybody we find with these people are going to.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
That's just the result of non.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Oh well that actually makes some sense, but it happens
not to be true. I don't know if you Newsom
said he's going to continue allowing the state prison system
to cooperate with ICE. So when you say, well, if
the governor would just let the ICE agents into the prisons,
we wouldn't have this problem with people going by a
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home depot. Well, he's been quite vocal about the fact
that ICE and the prison system in California will cooperate
with each other. And finally there is this let me
find this talk back which was just left here.
Speaker 7 (11:08):
So good to hear Mark Thompson, love you, love you,
love you, love you love you on Tuesdays.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
With Conway and I want to stop this for a second.
Why can't we have more like this Ritchie. This is
a very good talk back.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Let's have him keep him coming. I am very hit
that talk back. I'd like to hit this talk back.
Play this every maybe seven or eight minutes on this show.
Speaker 7 (11:29):
You hear Mark Thompson love You, love you, love you,
love you, love you, love you. You had a huge
more of a presence on air on love.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
You all from that was big, big fan love your work.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
I got love you, love you, love you, love you,
and then another thing and then love you.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
That was like huge six love you. That's more love
yous and I've got on a whole year.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
If I love love you on Sundays, I really thank you, uh,
thank you anonymous person.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
So we play it back again, No, no, we should not.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
I think I must tell you though, if you're headed
to the beach and it did feel like, you know,
we're getting into clearly some beach days, there is a bizarre,
I consider it truly bizarre warning about the latest threat
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safety threat associated with going to the beach. Usually you
associate going to the beach and those kind of safety
warnings with what riptide is like one of the big
ones to me anyway, sharks right. You know, there's also
theft on the beach. I mean this kind of thing,
but this is a threat to your physical person that
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emerges from beach umbrellas.
Speaker 8 (12:55):
A picturesque day on the Jersey Shore, beach goers taking
cover from the hot summer sun.
Speaker 9 (13:01):
All shattered in a moment.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
The um in the rough, aren't it?
Speaker 8 (13:06):
After a nineteen year old lifeguard in Asbury Park was
stabbed by her own beach umbrella.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
I gotten tailed by the umbrella.
Speaker 8 (13:15):
First responders rushing to the scene, power tools in hand.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
They need that band fall for sure.
Speaker 7 (13:20):
Here they cut the umbrella on both ends so they
couldn't move that part of it.
Speaker 9 (13:24):
It was pretty ugly, but I said, I think she's
gonna be fine.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
For her.
Speaker 8 (13:28):
It's a story all too familiar Forred Quigley.
Speaker 10 (13:31):
An umbrella is a javelin with a sale attached ed.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Oh wow, never in a million years that I can see.
We've all seen. All of us have seen umbrellas blowing
down the beach, right and and I guess we know
that the implied threat, But I never thought of it
as like a jablin that potentially could spear someone. I
mean again, I guess that's implied, but I'd never heard
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or seen or read about, it actually.
Speaker 9 (13:58):
Happened, tory all too familiar for d Quigley.
Speaker 10 (14:01):
An umbrella is a javelin with a sail attached.
Speaker 8 (14:05):
Ed nearly died after being struck in the eye by
a rope. Beach umbrella twenty fifteen in brain surgery.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
I died on the operating table.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Wow, are you kidding me?
Speaker 2 (14:18):
This guy was speared in the eye by a beach
umbrella and he went intobate brain surgery involving dying on
the table in the oar.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
This is an extraordinary story.
Speaker 9 (14:34):
Beach umbrella twenty fifteen.
Speaker 10 (14:36):
In brain surgery. I died on the operating table. Took
them twenty three minutes and seven cycles with the shock
paddles bring me back.
Speaker 8 (14:44):
Since that day, he's made it his mission to improve
beach umbrella safety. Everyone's just shocked that this is a
thing that happened so regularly.
Speaker 10 (14:52):
I think the first question to ask is did you
ever see an umbrella blowing down the beach? Everyone has, Well,
everyone's seen it, then everyone's been in a potential danger situation.
Speaker 8 (15:05):
Now, as installing these warning signs at beaches up and
down the East Coast, like here in Wildwood, New Jersey
coining beachgoers.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Wylwood, New Jerseys, where we used to vacation every summer.
Loved it, especially as a kid. They've got a big
boardwalk and all those rides and stuff. And I have
to just say this speaking of my life is a
kid at Wildwood Beaches. My mom, she grew up in
the shadow of the Depression. They had no money. She
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would hoard like sugar packets from United Airlines. It was incredible,
and I mean, I'm just kind of our life was
informed by you know, my mother really not wanted to
spend any money. We didn't have a lot of money,
but she really grew up with nothing, so it was
kind of anyway, My point is on the beach at Wildwood,
this very beach, she would not ever dream about renting
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an umbrella. It was two dollars. I mean, she would
never dream of it. I remember being scorched by the
sun and begging her to get an umbrella. Nope, never
even take a meeting on it. But wow, the idea
that these umbrellas could blow down the beach and they
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could do the kind of damage that that guy was
just describing.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
It's really truting.
Speaker 8 (16:22):
Like here in wild Wood New Jersey, pointing beachgoers to
a new voluntary safety standard for beach umbrellas from the
Consumer Product Safety Commission.
Speaker 10 (16:31):
So, over two years they tested beach umbrellas on beaches
and in wind tunnels and develop the scientific data to say,
this is what you need to keep an umbrella secure.
And basically what it is is an anchor device that
provides seventy five pounds of resistance to lift.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
That's what I was gonna suggest, Richie. I literally was
gonna say, why do they just put weights on the
bottom of it. I don't know, but they're already on it. Yeah,
all right. Meanwhile, if you go to the beach, do
be careful. You could end up like that guy in
the or and in brain surgery. Very well sourced that story.
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That was a surprise to me. Thank you, producer, Richie.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
You're welcome. Yeah, when we come back.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
A crypto investment scheme revealed right here in southern California.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
The operator and employee of a Bellflower financial services company
accused of allegedly stealing more than a million dollars, mostly
low income victims. It was a fraudulent crypto investment scheme.
Two people again the operator and then the employee of
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this financial services company in Bellflower, Jone Rios of Rancho
Cucamonga and Erwin Kavas of thirty five of Norwalk. Those
are the two thirty felon accounts involving grand theft. There's
also a forgery and another felon account with bouncing checks.
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But between twenty twenty and twenty twenty two, the two
of them operated this scheme under the guise of a
cryptocurrency mining business. This is what is alleged. The cryptocurrency
mining business was known as Zukra Platform Corporation. Now this
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is what they say. This Zukray Platform Corporation was claiming
they were going to install, maintain, and operate computing equipment
to mine crypto. You know, crypto is this thing where
its computations and computers and the more you mine it,
the more you have. So if you can actually set
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up your computer to mine crypto, you can. Essentially it's
almost like a printing press for money. But the company
had no installation, maintenance, or operation of any computing equipment
to mind cryptocurrency, and they were not a registered business
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in California, according to prosecutors, So the people who were
operating this allegedly fraudulent business tried to get victims through
their existing financial services business. And you know, you guys
are already here, you're going through all these other steps
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to handle your finances investments. We've got something for you.
We have this company, Zukra, and you should be part
of that. So they also had them obtain high limit
credit cards loans, and they were using the loan oftentimes
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to help them apply to pay into this scheme. Again,
this is all alleged by the District Attorney's office. They've
just leveled these charges against these two people from Bellflower.
So they say they told victims that the investments were
risk free, guaranteed and protected by insurance. They said to
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these clients again, quote, clients, here are written contracts. You're
going to download this mobile app, this Zoukre mobile app,
and the mobile app's going to show you all the
ongoing profits from your investments. You know, again, all this
crypto that is accumulating while you sleep, You're getting rich.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
They're saying.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Individual investments range from forty five hundred dollars to two
hundred and eighty thousand dollars, and despite repeated a hemps,
none of the victims got any returns whatsoever. The whole
thing was a fraudulent scheme and there were no ways
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in which they could even recover their principal investments, so
they lost everything in addition to gaining nothing. Prosecutors are
asking that bay will be set for each defendant at
six hundred thousand dollars. If they are convicted, they could
get what would you guess what should they get?
Speaker 3 (21:32):
In your view, the answer is twenty three years.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
I think that well, you know me, I'm tough on
law and order.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Man.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
I'm sorry you defraud people of that kind of money
with that sort of BS story, you deserve to go away.
So they're going after these people hard. From the LA
District Attorney Nathan Hawkman comes this statement. My office will
not tolerate financial predators who purport to offer legitimate services
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but instead offer lies and devastating financial loss. Let me
be clear, if you steal from our communities, whether in
the streets or through sophisticated investment or cryptos schemes, we
will find you hold you accountable to the fullest extent
of the law. So again, that's a court case that's
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being adjudicated, but that is the very latest. When we
come back, there is a notable loss. I don't know
if you'll know the name, but once I tell you
the name, actually you'll put together the puzzle pieces and
you may very well know the name. And then I'll
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kick open the door to everything this guy was all about.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
We'll get to that next.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Thanks everybody who is contributing today's show. The talkback feature
is always fun, and Richie just came in here with
another handful of talk pers. I think this is maybe
related to the ice raids. Let's see, it's a.
Speaker 11 (23:15):
Hi, justin from West Covina.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
I don't think that the raids are fair.
Speaker 11 (23:21):
Basically, the government, federal and state have let them all
come here for decades, and now they all of a
sudden want to reverse that. No, they let them in,
it's their fault, so now they need to make a
way for them to become legal after working.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
I mean, you know, he's not wrong, and the reality
is there are a lot of ways to make this work.
But the way that they're going about it, I think
is just it's nonsensical. I mean, when you pick up
a guy who's in his fifties, who has three kids,
he's a gardener. Okay, you've seen this, and the guy
was running with the weed whacker from them. He was
just he's holding this with Let's just be fair about
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what it was. He's just being chased by these Ice
agents and anyway, we'll leave let's just call it.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
We'll leave it at that. Just describe it that way.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
He's got three kids, all of them you know, serving
in the military. Yeah, three veterans. His stay here in
this country has been over decades. Now, all of a
sudden he's being deported. He's been then. I mean, he
had the stuffing beaten out of him. And I'd suggest
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that this guy who just came in on the talkback
is right. I mean, this is quite sudden. Trump could
be a hero if you would bring back something like
the Brossero program, which was designed to accommodate workers that
come here in all of these different professions. It was
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really Brossero, I think was focused mostly on aggregate culture.
But the idea was that you're allowing these immigrants to
come here understanding that they are in work programs, agriculture,
you could have it anything, agriculture, car wash, landscaping, construction,
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whatever you want. All of a sudden you are able
to track everybody, and everybody's still able to provide for
their families in the ways in which they likely arrived
in this country to begin with. That's just a thought
as an aside. I mean, that's just you know, that's
not even working through lunch, that idea. It's already existed.
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The PRASCO program was discontinued in the sixties.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
I think.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Anyway, I think something has to be worked out. It's
not working the way they have it. What else there was? Oh,
on the beach umbrella this is we had a story
if you're just joining us. Apparently beach umbrellas, if they're
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blown down the beach can literally kill people. And so
there are these advisories now on beaches coast to coast
saying be very careful with the umbrella stand and making
sure that it's secure in the sand. So this on
the Attack of the Beach Umbrellas, so coming to.
Speaker 8 (26:28):
A theater near you.
Speaker 9 (26:30):
Attack of the Killer Beach Umbrellas.
Speaker 7 (26:32):
Yes, narrated by Mark Thomas.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Oh I like it already yes, attack of the beach umbrellas.
You worried about a riptide, you worried about a tsunami,
You even worried about sharks. What you really should worry
about is attack of the beach umbrellas.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
Coming to a theater near you.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Thank you, thank you, and finally there were is this.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
I think it's a Mark.
Speaker 6 (27:03):
I love you also, and I've always enjoyed your very
common sense reporting.
Speaker 7 (27:12):
You're a great voice at KFI.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
No, that's right.
Speaker 7 (27:15):
Against the storm of sometimes not great political views are
ones that I don't necessarily agree with.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
But I have feelings of love for.
Speaker 7 (27:27):
What you do.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
Mark.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
I love, I appreciate you, and I glad to hear.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
You have love and appreciation for you.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
I take that love and appreciation, I reflect it back
and enhance it.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
I love this self serving segment, Ritchie, It's perfect. I
love it. A self aggrandizing few minutes. I wish you
could do a full two hours of just self aggrandizement.
There was a notable passing. John Robbins has passed away.
The reason I mentioned to you before you might know
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his name is because you know the name Baskin and
Robin's and that ice cream Empire is part of John
Robbin's history. He's an heir to that Baskin Robbin's fortune,
but he rejected the family business and wrote a seminal book,
(28:25):
a cornerstone book advocating plant based nutrition. He was a
big one of environmentalism, animal rights. And he just died
here in California with seventy seven. His son and collaborator,
Ocean Robbins I get his newsletter regularly, said that the
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cause of his father's death was complications from a post
polio syndrome that resulted in muscle weakness and other symptoms,
nearly seven decades after he originally got polio as a boy.
His book, and this is the thing. His book is
very famous. It's called Diet for a New America. It
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was published in nineteen eighty seven, and it sold more
than a million copies. And it drew a link between
heavy consumption of animal based products and the increased risk
of chronic illnesses like heart disease and obesity. It looked
at environmental damage caused by factory farming. It raised ethical
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questions about the treatment of animals in confined conditions. So
you can see maybe why I like it because you
kind of know where the way I lean on the
environment and on animal welfare. But you can see also
how it might have a broader audience because he spoke
a very common sense message. The message was that the healthiest,
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tastiest and most nourishing way to eat is also the
most economic and most compassionate and least polluting way to eat.
That was Diet for a New America, John Robbins. I mean,
he was, and he's compared this way. He's compared to
Rachel Carson. She's the one who wrote that book Silent Spring,
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that warned about how the unlimited use of agricultural pesticides
like DDT had contaminated the soil, the water, threatened the
health of wildlife humans, and that created the modern environmental
movement that was Rachel Carson's book Silent Spring. This book,
Diet for a New America is sort of the equivalent,
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and through the years, food writers have described this book,
Diet for a New America as groundbreaking, the bible of
the anti meat campaign.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
And I get it. I'm not on a jihad. You know,
you eat anywhere you want.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
I'm just telling you why this person was of significance.
Paul McCartney read his book, totally changed the way that
he looked at factory farming, and he looked at as
McCartney said, compassion and respect for life, the earth, and
(31:20):
how much better off our world will be. But he
got criticism. I mean, he was not as you might
imagine whenever you're pitching this to a nation that's really
not necessarily open to it.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
He got a lot of static, you know. But I'll
tell you why.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
I also respect him, or at least I think this
is a notable part of his bio as you look back,
is now his Obit is that he was offered a
bunch of money from this Baskin Robin's fortune. Again, he's
related to this Baskin Robin's empire, and he pushed back
on it because he didn't want that money, because of
(32:02):
the fact that it was the industrial dairy process that
created that fortune. And so at least, you know, you've
got to give the guy the courage of his convictions.
He very much lamented the way that cows are treated
in the dairy business, and how Baskin Robbins is an
ice cream company really was in a sense he looked
(32:26):
at it as blood money. So I think this is
an extraordinary guy, regardless of what you think of him
ultimately or you know, how you integrate his message or
don't integrate it into your life. But John Robbins, the grandfather,
I'm sorry, the son of the originator, the founder of
(32:52):
Baskin Robbins, and the author of Diet for a New America.
John Robbins passes away here in California at the age
of seventy seven. There's nothing I like more than going
through a sad o bit, saying goodbye to someone who's
(33:13):
made a great contribution to society, finishing that sad oh bit,
and then pivoting immediately to the next host. And that's
exactly what I am going to do. Now do we
have there's no talkback?
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Okay, Well then he's off the hook, all right, no
revn no no talkback. You don't have him raism on
the line. No, no, okay? Well it was fun. All right,
Thanks all for a great afternoon. I will see you
(33:51):
soon and if you have a moment, you can check
out my show Daily Live Show on YouTube, The Mark
Thompson Show. Oh and I'll be here through Kofi this
week too, doing the Cobalt Show. I'm looking forward to
that as well. Ah, you're not really rid of me.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Kf I am six forty on demand
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