June 3, 2026 • 26 mins
Election Night gets wild as Gary opens the show with a rant about the California State Board of Equalization before turning to wall-to-wall primary election coverage across California and the nation. Polling expert Paul Mitchell joins the studio to break down prediction markets, political betting, and what the data is telling us about tonight’s biggest races.
Meanwhile, mayoral candidate Spencer Pratt’s planned “intimate gathering” turns into a media circus when reporters crash his family dinner, and our team checks in from campaign watch parties and polling locations throughout Southern California. From a motorbike mishap at a Woodland Hills polling place to updates from Steve Hilton’s gubernatorial camp and Mayor Karen Bass’s election-night headquarters, we bring you the sights, sounds, and surprises of a fast-moving election night.
Join Gary and Chris for expert analysis, live reports, unexpected moments, and all the drama unfolding as voters decide the future of California politics.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
It's Primary Night in the Southland, the fruits of the
politic and finally yet hand following the ballanced people picking
a guy, and it's.
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Speaker 4 (00:29):
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With Gary Hoffman and Chris Merrill.
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Speaker 4 (00:43):
Well, first time in many, many years, perhaps you and
I have been able to do something like this.
Speaker 5 (00:48):
Yeah, I don't think you and I have ever coordinated
together in the same place.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Now, we've spoken before, but I see you in the
hallways every once in a while. But it is nice
to meet you finally, Chris L. Gary Hoffman again. Primary
election Night tonight here in California, also in Iowa, Montana,
New Jersey, New Mexico, and South Dakota. I keep wanting
to say San Diego because I wrote the abbreviation SD.
So stuff that happens across the country will obviously pay
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attention to their polls have already closed thirty six governor's
elections that will be impacted by tonight's, by this year's primaries,
not necessarily just tonight, of course, the big two races
here in California that we're going to be paying attention to,
the race to replace Gaven Newsom as the governor, with
some very late movement in the polls, especially for Tom
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Steyer in that race, and then the LA mayor as well,
Karen Bass up for reelection against Spencer Pratt Nathia Rahman.
Handful of house races that are going to be competitive.
We've got city measures, We've got County of LA measures,
We've got City of Compton measures, and all important in
the entire eight o'clock hour before we get into any
(01:55):
real election results, I have a good forty five minute
rant on the Board of.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
Equalization that i'd like to go through.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
If you don't mind it, just give me a little
bit of air, just a little bit of space to
expand on that.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
I think most people would agree that the Board of
Equalizations felt unbalanced for a very long timeact.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Exactly the Board of in Equalization as I like to
call it. So finally we're going to bring some stability
to that and listen. In all honesty, the expectation is
that when we wrap things up here at ten o'clock tonight,
assuming all goes correctly, we will not necessarily know the
outcome of all of what we want to know. That
is something we're going to talk about in terms of
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the process by which we count votes here in the
state of California, Why it's different than other places. Why
part of it is the size, I mean, twenty three
million registered voters in the state of California. So there's
plenty to talk to. Heather Brooker, you heard there at
the top of the hour in the news is out
down in Orange County. Brigidia Dia Gastino, Eileen Gonzalez also
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reporting for us. We have a bunch of different people
that we're going to be talking to throughout the course
of tonight.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
We'll start with Paul Mitchell.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Paul Mitchell is one of the guys who is responsible
for Prop fifty redistricting maps. I have a problem with him,
but that's fine.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
I'm not out of a problem with you.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
You're not the one who decided it.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
It felt very pointed to me poll it was not.
So if you want to if you want to, you know,
re butt him. I'm on your shide. I didn't get
an argument yet at this point. Here's the other thing too,
is that I mean, in order to do what you
did with kind of being the architect of some of
Prop fifty is an incredible ability to analyze the polling data, right.
I mean, that's really what you had to do, is
to be able to dive into each one of these
things in order to parse out those districts. When you
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look at not just the results of Prop fifty, but
when you look at what we're seeing as far as
polling going into the selection, is there anything that gymps
out of here right now?
Speaker 6 (03:44):
Well, I mean, first off, when you talk about polling,
that's a wide net. You know, there are high quality
polls like the UC Berkeley Poll Public Policy Institute of California,
and then there are kind of like some of these
polsters that are maybe out of state. Maybe they don't
even use voter files when they do their poll. Maybe
they're calling random digits. It's got random digit dialing is
a type of polling. Maybe they're using panels so that
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like one day you're taking a poll about governor and
the next day you're taking a poll about what kind
of refrigerator you like, Like, these aren't really necessarily the
highest quality polls. So when you look at polling, you
really have to discern or maybe look at like who
the LA Times is using, who is a reputable source
is using, what universities are sponsoring those polls, versus like,
you know, some group you've never heard of.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Can we talk specifically about polling. I have a question
about these prediction markets that have come up, because they're
not polls, and I think people are mistaking them for polls,
especially when we see numbers like there was a number
that Chris was showing me right before we started tonight
about Tom Steyer having jumped significantly in these prediction markets,
that Javi or Besseri is up around seventy five percent
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in the prediction market for people who think he'll become
the next governor. Do we have any idea how accurate
or not those are going to be? Is it does
that even come into the discover Should it share air
with the idea of polling?
Speaker 6 (05:04):
Well, I think prediction markets are interesting and I could
talk about it for hours. You know, if you have
a prediction market that's based on a lot of people,
like a wide range of people with different experience and skills,
and they're putting their money down to decide one way
or the other. They're betting. It should normalize to a
pretty good result in most cases. But the challenge is
that you do need that wide sample of a lot
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of different experts, and when you're talking about a lot
of these prediction markets, just to get on the market,
you have to convert your money to crypto and then
you have to maybe use a VPN to go and
use a European country to place the bet. So there's
already like these hurdles so that not everybody's participating in them.
So one and great example is Matt Mayhan who's unning
for governor. When he first entered the race, he went
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up to a twenty seven percent chance of winning the
governor's race, but he was like it one percent in
the polls. So they not necessarily great at doing this analysis.
They are a few select people that are actually making
them those bets and it's just not representative. However, sometimes
those prediction markets can respond faster to a real world
event than a pole can. Because you know, when Eric
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Swallwell dropped out of the governor's race. Ppi C had
just done their poll. They released it on the Tuesday
after the Friday of his leaving the race. They released
it and I got a text from the pollster and
he said, Lol, this is useless.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
But the real but the.
Speaker 6 (06:24):
Betting markets are jokes. The betting market had already shifted already.
Eric Swall was at zero percent in the betting market.
So for that moment in time, because it's reacting instantly
to real world events, it could be better. Let's say,
as an example that you know, the Tom Steyer is
making a little run here at the end. It does
seem as though he's getting some of these people who
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are concerned about the top two. They want to vote
for somebody who can win. And he seems to be
doing better with young people right now and some of
these late deciders, and the betting market might be able
to pick that up better than a poll that was
put out by you know, ppi C, that was done
May eighteenth, but released last week. You know. So that
moment in time thing is interesting. Being able to react
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to real world events is interesting. But I wouldn't generally
say that a betting market is better than a poll.
A poll has deeper methodology. You can look at how
Latinos are participating, what is happening with older voters, what
is happening with younger voters. You can learn real lessons
about the contours of the race rather than just the
top line. And it's just more reliable from pole to
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poll than a betting market.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
Paul Mitchell is a political analyst specializing in the data
sciences of the elections and things that are going on. Paul,
I'm gonna I have more questions about that, because I
see I see some pratfalls to it.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Gary Hoffman Chris Merrill for our primary election night coverage.
We just got word that nobody was supposed to be
at Spencer Pratt's part. There was not going to be
a party tonight, super sisor Pratt secret close friends and
family and advisors perhaps, and that was it. And then
everybody got winned that he was at a restaurant, and
(08:09):
everybody showed up, and now it's mayhem because they've all
been kicked out and they're all walking on the sidewalk
now outside the restaurant.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
Which is great because it was. We came in to
get ready for the show. All of a sudden we
started seeing, you know, Channel five is out there, Fox
eleven is out there, everybody's showing up, and we went,
what the heck? You know, we were told, don't come
out here, it's a closed party, can't have this, and
then they all basically barged in anyway. They went, it's
a restaurant, what are they gonna do? Kick us out?
And then they did. They did. That's fantastic. I love that.
(08:39):
We'll get to we'll get an update from Crozier here
in just a few moments. We are joining the studio
right now by Paul Mitchell. He's a cant I call
you a data analyst, a political analyst, a data scientist,
what chief chief data enter. Yeah, and you work with
redistricting partners. You were a part of the architect on
Prop fifty, So that wins you some fans and some
haters as well. I'm sure even the haters respect a
(09:01):
little bit, you know. Yeah, yeah, I mean science is
science behind that, and I'm we were just discussing the
impact of the predictive markets CALSHI and pollingmarket. You were
talking about how they can be very reactive. And you
use the Swallowell news breaking as an example, the polls
were you know, a week behind on that because they
certainly had you know, they had to kind of recalibrate
(09:22):
everything all of a sudden. One of the things I
heard Tim Kinway Junior bring this up. He was filling
in on a show earlier today that shall not be named,
and it was mine and Tim made mention of these
markets are bizarre because someone may put money down on
the market and then go vote for the person that
they just put money down on. It strikes me as
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I don't want to say insider trading, but it's almost
very Pete Rose, like he's betting on the game that
he's playing in. You know. That seems a little bit
odd to me.
Speaker 6 (09:50):
Well, it's interesting because the founders of these betting markets
when they talk about why they're so wonderful, in part
they're talking about, well, insiders are going to trade because
they have knowledge. You don't get people with inside knowledge
coming on KFI or going you know, around talking about
all the secrets in their industry. But if they can
bet on it with their own money, with those secrets
in mind, they can actually tell the public in a
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way where things are gonna move. And so there's a
lot of data to suggests that predictive markets are really
good at like looking at you know, other world events,
you know, and we've seen it being abused with you know,
soldiers betting on Venzuela. And one of the interesting things,
and this is a story that I haven't told because
I didn't want to get in trouble, but one of
the Matt Mayhan events that apparently happened in the Silicon Valley,
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I talked to a reporter that there was somebody at
a Matt Mayhon event that said, there's three ways you
can help Matt Mayhon and he's candidate for governor. One
is you can donate, you can volunteer, or you can
bet for him on Calshi. And the idea there was
that if we can get enough of our friends to
bet on Calshi for a candidate, even if it was
like a local race, then we can go put up
(10:57):
a tweet that says this candidate's leading. That will get
more media attention, that'll bring more eyeballs to the candidate,
that'll help that candidate in polling, and you start the
ball rolling with these betting markets and you are trying
to game it. There's actually a legislator in Sacramento who's
looking at the idea that if you're betting on a
candidate with the interest of increasing their vote share or
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helping them electorally, that that should be a reportable contribution
in a way.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Well like we would see the same thing. There's an
analogy somewhere in there regarding Spencer Pratt and the AI
videos that have come out and gone viral, because while
they may not cost very much in terms of being
an actual contribution to the campaign, they've made a massive
impact on that race.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
Yeah, and it's.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
Really I've seen a lot of those videos, but you know,
I don't know who's paying for those or you know,
how you calculate the value. I mean, the way the
campaign finance law works. If I'm a volunteer and I
want to do a video and posted whatever, that's fine.
But you're right, you're talking about something that is almost
like a gray area with this campaign activity. Whether it's
betting for somebody to win because you want to up
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their numbers in the Calchier market, or putting out viral
videos to try to influence folks it's it's all part
of what's this new modern campaign. I think the Spencer
Pratt campaign has broken ground in some ways. It may
not be so great for future campaigns.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
It was going to happen sooner later though. That's a
good question about that, all right. Paul Mitchell, applical analyst
to data scientists. Paul, thank you so much for your
insight tonight. Thanks. I appreciate it. Yeah, I'm glad that
you're here.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
We'll come back. We're going to talk with Brigida da Gastino.
She is live at one of the local polling places.
We'll keep an eye on any problems that perhaps come
up with those of course coming up.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
It is our election night coverage, John Chris, maryl Gary Hoffman.
As we take a look at all the different primary
races that are going on, and a ton of races,
not only a kind of the big ones that many, many,
many many people are paying attention to, not just in
California but nationwide. That people are watching the LA mayor's
race in the same way to we were watching the
New York mayoral race last fall, and of course so
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much of the country is watching to see what's gonna
happen with the governor's race. Let's find out what's going
out at the polling places first, Brigida Deagastino, is is
that the polling place? Bragia, You've been watching people coming
and going, dropping ballots off, and has it been has
it been eventful at all? Have have we seen anything
of note?
Speaker 7 (13:23):
I mean, I saw a kid crash his motorcycle out
in Pierce College.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
Is an actual motorcycle or was it an e bike?
Speaker 7 (13:29):
It was an actual motorcycle. It was a little shocking,
but he was okay. He got up and I'm assuming
he went to vote. But I'm at Peerce College, which
is in Woodland Hills, and voters here come from all
kinds of communities in the West Valley.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
Yeah. And one of the things that I've noticed today
is I haven't seen a lot of people frustrated with
the voting apparatus. I mean, for the most part, this
has been pretty smooth. We haven't had any machines breaking down,
we haven't had any long lines, we haven't had any
printer not working or anything of that sort. Did you
see any issues at all?
Speaker 7 (14:04):
No, people are not frustrated with that, but they're definitely
fired up and frustrated about a lot of the issues,
especially the status quo. A lot of people are just
telling me that they are really tired of what's going
on here. Regardless of their incomes, housing situations, and political priorities.
They pretty much all say that LA is headed in
the wrong direction.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
At this point though no appearance of any problems. There's
no big long lines yet or anything.
Speaker 7 (14:30):
No, it's been a very slow stream of people. It's
been pretty consistent, but every time I've looked in between
twenty and fifty people. But it is a huge campus,
so there's no lines.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
Excellent in Woodland Hills. What is that they're coming back
to you as their biggest issues? Is it fire related?
Is it homeless related? What is it that they're saying?
This is really what's driving them to the polls.
Speaker 7 (14:50):
So it's pretty much the same concerns across the board.
Affordable housing, homelessness is of course the biggest one that
I've heard, rising food prices, overall cost of living, and yeah,
the fires. Absolutely. I was really surprised people weren't talking
about the down ballot races. You know, Superintendent was a
Big One Insurance commission commissioner. But I am at a college,
so there's a lot of younger people here. They don't
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own houses necessarily or have kids in school.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
Yeah, Bragida, we'll check in with you throughout the night.
Thanks for your time, Bragita again out in Woodland Hills.
Heather Brooker is also joining us, and Heather Brooker is
live in Steve Hilton's camp down in Orange County.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
How's it going?
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Sorry, I'll refer to you in a more professional sense, Heather,
how's it going?
Speaker 8 (15:35):
I must insist that you do thank you, that is,
miss Brooker, if you're nasty. Hey, So I am here
at the Hilton Waterfront Resort. Gorgeous resort if you've ever
been down here, were steps away from the beach, lots
of pools, and this seems to be the setting that
Steve Hilton has chosen to have his big watch party
here tonight. We've got a lot of signage up all over,
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big balloon arches. Every sign and every arch and every
table is decorated with Change is Coming. There's also a
swag table that's set up. You can get your hats
and books and t shirts all with you know, different
phrases from Steve Hilton on it. And actually he just
came out a few moments ago and talked to the media.
(16:18):
We were hoping to grab him, but he just did
sort of like a big like media you know, general
like gromment and you know, huh a scrump. Yeah, let
me go, let me do. I was hoping to grab him,
but he was rushed rushed away to go. I guess
and await the numbers that are coming in this party though,
you guys, it's open to the general public, but only
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if people pre registered to be able to come in.
They're expecting about seven hundreds people to come in here tonight,
which is crazy because this ballroom isn't how you feel
like it's gonna hold seven hundred people when we've already
got about one hundred members of the media here. But
if you're wondering, there is a photo booth and I
will be participating in the photo looks, so you just wait.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
You very good, thanks, Heather Brooker, appreciate that. Heather Brooker
just rated out Steve Hilton to the fire Marshall. Nice
jound on that one. Unbelievable. Hey, uh real quick here
before we before we go to the election desk. I
saw the picture of you on the social media's too,
Gary Mile and down to the pizza from Joe Peeps.
(17:24):
Oh yes, yeah, that's a good pizza.
Speaker 7 (17:27):
It was so good.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
I got it fresh out of them. It's a bigger
piece than you expect. And what you didn't see because
you were, you know, on Gary time. Yeah, is the
meatball subs? What meat ball subs? Yeah? Crow, did you
steal one?
Speaker 9 (17:43):
Is that?
Speaker 7 (17:43):
What that is?
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Right there on your cheek?
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Yeah, that's just extra catch up that you just threw on.
Speaker 6 (17:51):
Just for the pizza is really good because it's that
that thinner crust New York style, which I love.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
It is so good.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
You're listening to kf I Am sixty.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Mayor Hey, Hi am six forty live everywhere on the
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Chris Merrill. We will talk at eight o'clock. We'll see
if we get any of those numbers right away. Some
of those early numbers are going to be pretty unpredictable.
For the eight o'clock hour, we'll see if any of
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it kind of susses out before we wrap things up
by ten o'clock obviously again keeping our eyes on the
race to replace gaven Neusom as governor. Karen Bass trying
to fight off a couple of challengers in the LA
mayor's race, a handful of competitive congressional races where we'll
see those the top two vote getters advance. Eileen Gonzalez
(18:44):
is joining us. Elin Gonzalez has been stationed at Karen
Bass's camp to see how things go on this election night. Eileen,
how's it going well?
Speaker 7 (18:52):
Thanks?
Speaker 9 (18:52):
Starting to pick up here. The event doesn't start until
eight o'clock. The door's open to the press at six,
so there's still some setup going on. They're putting some
back drops up. They've got a stage here and a podium,
and they're setting up for a band. They've got drums
and a keyboard. So I don't know what's going on there,
but it's kind of a relatively small space, maybe if
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it's about two hundred and fifty people. They've got a
dozen cameras set up for local and national media outlets.
And Karen Bass will be here later. She's going to
talk about, you know, her highlights of her record changing LA.
I'm going to talk about decreasing, decreasing, homelessness and prime
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and housing and bringing Hollywood production back to LA. But again,
it's going to start till eight o'clock. So it's been
a slow rolling start, but it is starting to pick
up now.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
Eileen, you may mentioned about two hundred and fifty people
we talked with. Heather Brooker was at the Steve Hilton camp,
and we know that Spencer Pratt has got a private
party going on that's invite only. Is this an invite
only sort of situation or is it a first two
fifty first get in?
Speaker 9 (19:57):
You know, I can tell you from the press site only,
it's it's a pretty closed deal. I'm pretty sure it's
invite only, because even I had trouble. I had trouble
getting in. We are s vp'd yesterday, we are s
VP today. Our boss Jason had tried to rs VP
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for us and nothing. I reached out to their camp
on Instagram and I finally had someone to get back
to me. And then, oddly enough, after we did our
five o'clock hit and I talked about how we couldn't
get in and I was just going to show up anyway. Yeah,
somebody responded. They responded that got in. Yeah, So yeah,
it's not easy to get in here.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
It's no secret, no secret.
Speaker 9 (20:42):
Yeah, these calls were getting the cold.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
Bring with it a certain amount of animosity potentially depending
on who the candidate.
Speaker 9 (20:50):
Is, Yes, exactly potentially.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Yeah, I lean great stuff. We will check in back
back in with you a little bit later.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
Thank you. Sound at Allen Gonzoz.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
You mentioned Spencer Pratt's place, Don Antonio's over on West.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
Pico is where he is. WHOA, uh, that's private. H Well,
it is private.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Here's one of the Fox News reporters out from Spencer Pratt.
Speaker 10 (21:13):
Campaign has been unconventional from the start, remains unconventional. Tonight
they have a victory party planned here at Don Antonio's
restaurant on the west side of LA. Normally you would
invite the media into what you think is going to
be a victory party. Well, they just kicked all the
media out. They want to this to be apparently, as
they call it, a private event.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
So it's been.
Speaker 10 (21:33):
Unconventional from the very beginning. It is continuing that way.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
And to be honest, that's that uh fiasco. I think
it's the collective now on the fiasco of reporters that's
out now on West Pico outside the restaurant. That's that's
the most Uh, that's the most activity we've seen in
a primary election watch event in years.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
Yeah, that's true. Everybody wanted to be a part of that.
The thing that strikes me is that for a guy
that has been so media savvy, let's say that he's
had i'm going to say more earned attention than the
other candidates in this race, it is odd to me
that he's having a private party. And some people are
trying to read into that, and I don't know if
there's anything to read into that, but some people are saying, well,
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he's got internal polling that shows he's not doing that well,
and so he doesn't want to have a party where
he's got cameras on him if he's losing. And I
don't know if I'd buy into that. It goes back.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
I would just say I don't know enough about his
campaign inner workings, yeah, to know this with any real certainty.
But it sounds like there's a bunch of people who
aren't quite as experienced in this kind of thing as
you would see around a Karen Bass, around a Javier
Besserra or somebody like that.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
Even Steve Hilton. He's not.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
He started out as a not politically savvy guy. And
I heard a great podcast today. It was specifically talking
about his campaign and what went from the January announcement
where everybody's like, how much more LA could you get
than a reality show guy from twenty years ago also
(23:15):
who was selling crystals selling crystals? How much more LA
can you get than that guy saying he's going to
run for mayor? And at first, for weeks, I didn't
want to talk to the guy.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
I didn't think it.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
I didn't think it was important. I didn't think it
was going to be worthwhile. But when he got into
the thick of things, especially after that debate performance where
he was able to hold his own against two people
who have been doing politics for some time, the quote
from this political analyst was over the last several weeks,
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Spencer Pratt has convinced Spencer Pratt to vote for Spencer
Pratt that he realized there is something there. The language
that he uses of I don't want to say the
common man because that sounds condescending, but the frustrations that
he has put a voice to are all very real,
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and that kind of momentum is un undeniable.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
I'm going to say somebody is advising him because he's
gone from angry reality show guy to someone who all
of a sudden knows he knows the data, right. I mean,
that was one of the things that that became very
clear when he was on with Michael and I. It
became clear during the debate that you're talking about, like
he's able to say the wins were never over forty
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miles an hour during the first seven hours of the
Palisades fire. Yeah, that's not something Spencer Pratt from January
new Right. So somebody's advising him, somebody's got flash cards
with him and saying, here's what you got to know,
here's what's going on with inside Safe, here's what's going
on with the you know whatever. The homeless numbers are
on Wilshire boom boom, boom, boom boom, and he's got them.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
I think the best piece of advice, if that's true,
the best piece of advice that someone has apparently given him,
is don't answer the questions you don't know the answers to,
but find out.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
And he he is.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
Well known for, you know, if he's approached about a
specific topic that he doesn't quite know about. He did
an interview with John Played It actually to earlier where
he was on with Bill Maher, and Bill Maher brought
up the question the issue of solar panels, and Spencer
Pratt kind of tripped up ignored part of that rule,
which was he said, I think they're being taxed now,
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and Bill Maher said, what do you mean they're being taxed?
And he goes, well, I think they're being taxed, and
then stepped back and thought to himself, hey, I shouldn't
if I don't know what I'm talking about, I should
not answer it definitively. So he said, my job is
and he went down his you know hot three list
of homelessness, you know, fire safety, and animal cruelty. But
(25:45):
then said, and then I'll take care of taxes. I'll
take care of whatever the solar thing is that you're
talking about, but my priority is not taxing on your
solar panels kind of stuff. So someone has told him
you don't know the answer, find it out so that
next time it comes up it can be answer.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
I mean, that's that's just the smart politics. But not
everybody gets that. Yeah, I mean it feels like politics
won on one, but not everybody necessarily is.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Polls closed just a couple of minutes. On the other
side of this, we should be able to get some numbers.
We'll see what they are. One race we're gonna be
ready to call as soon as we come back. Really yeah,
I'm not going to tell you what. That's a tease, Gary,
That's how tea. Gary Off and Chris Merrill. Our primary
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Well, first time in many, many years, perhaps you and
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Yeah, I don't think you and I have ever coordinated
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Now, we've spoken before, but I see you in the
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election Night tonight here in California, also in Iowa, Montana,
New Jersey, New Mexico, and South Dakota. I keep wanting
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So stuff that happens across the country will obviously pay
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attention to their polls have already closed thirty six governor's
elections that will be impacted by tonight's, by this year's primaries,
not necessarily just tonight, of course, the big two races
here in California that we're going to be paying attention to,
the race to replace Gaven Newsom as the governor, with
some very late movement in the polls, especially for Tom
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Steyer in that race, and then the LA mayor as well,
Karen Bass up for reelection against Spencer Pratt Nathia Rahman.
Handful of house races that are going to be competitive.
We've got city measures, We've got County of LA measures,
We've got City of Compton measures, and all important in
the entire eight o'clock hour before we get into any
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real election results, I have a good forty five minute
rant on the Board of.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
Equalization that i'd like to go through.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
If you don't mind it, just give me a little
bit of air, just a little bit of space to
expand on that.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
I think most people would agree that the Board of
Equalizations felt unbalanced for a very long timeact.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Exactly the Board of in Equalization as I like to
call it. So finally we're going to bring some stability
to that and listen. In all honesty, the expectation is
that when we wrap things up here at ten o'clock tonight,
assuming all goes correctly, we will not necessarily know the
outcome of all of what we want to know. That
is something we're going to talk about in terms of
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the process by which we count votes here in the
state of California, Why it's different than other places. Why
part of it is the size, I mean, twenty three
million registered voters in the state of California. So there's
plenty to talk to. Heather Brooker, you heard there at
the top of the hour in the news is out
down in Orange County. Brigidia Dia Gastino, Eileen Gonzalez also
(02:54):
reporting for us. We have a bunch of different people
that we're going to be talking to throughout the course
of tonight.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
We'll start with Paul Mitchell.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Paul Mitchell is one of the guys who is responsible
for Prop fifty redistricting maps. I have a problem with him,
but that's fine.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
I'm not out of a problem with you.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
You're not the one who decided it.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
It felt very pointed to me poll it was not.
So if you want to if you want to, you know,
re butt him. I'm on your shide. I didn't get
an argument yet at this point. Here's the other thing too,
is that I mean, in order to do what you
did with kind of being the architect of some of
Prop fifty is an incredible ability to analyze the polling data, right.
I mean, that's really what you had to do, is
to be able to dive into each one of these
things in order to parse out those districts. When you
(03:36):
look at not just the results of Prop fifty, but
when you look at what we're seeing as far as
polling going into the selection, is there anything that gymps
out of here right now?
Speaker 6 (03:44):
Well, I mean, first off, when you talk about polling,
that's a wide net. You know, there are high quality
polls like the UC Berkeley Poll Public Policy Institute of California,
and then there are kind of like some of these
polsters that are maybe out of state. Maybe they don't
even use voter files when they do their poll. Maybe
they're calling random digits. It's got random digit dialing is
a type of polling. Maybe they're using panels so that
(04:05):
like one day you're taking a poll about governor and
the next day you're taking a poll about what kind
of refrigerator you like, Like, these aren't really necessarily the
highest quality polls. So when you look at polling, you
really have to discern or maybe look at like who
the LA Times is using, who is a reputable source
is using, what universities are sponsoring those polls, versus like,
you know, some group you've never heard of.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Can we talk specifically about polling. I have a question
about these prediction markets that have come up, because they're
not polls, and I think people are mistaking them for polls,
especially when we see numbers like there was a number
that Chris was showing me right before we started tonight
about Tom Steyer having jumped significantly in these prediction markets,
that Javi or Besseri is up around seventy five percent
(04:48):
in the prediction market for people who think he'll become
the next governor. Do we have any idea how accurate
or not those are going to be? Is it does
that even come into the discover Should it share air
with the idea of polling?
Speaker 6 (05:04):
Well, I think prediction markets are interesting and I could
talk about it for hours. You know, if you have
a prediction market that's based on a lot of people,
like a wide range of people with different experience and skills,
and they're putting their money down to decide one way
or the other. They're betting. It should normalize to a
pretty good result in most cases. But the challenge is
that you do need that wide sample of a lot
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of different experts, and when you're talking about a lot
of these prediction markets, just to get on the market,
you have to convert your money to crypto and then
you have to maybe use a VPN to go and
use a European country to place the bet. So there's
already like these hurdles so that not everybody's participating in them.
So one and great example is Matt Mayhan who's unning
for governor. When he first entered the race, he went
(05:47):
up to a twenty seven percent chance of winning the
governor's race, but he was like it one percent in
the polls. So they not necessarily great at doing this analysis.
They are a few select people that are actually making
them those bets and it's just not representative. However, sometimes
those prediction markets can respond faster to a real world
event than a pole can. Because you know, when Eric
(06:09):
Swallwell dropped out of the governor's race. Ppi C had
just done their poll. They released it on the Tuesday
after the Friday of his leaving the race. They released
it and I got a text from the pollster and
he said, Lol, this is useless.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
But the real but the.
Speaker 6 (06:24):
Betting markets are jokes. The betting market had already shifted already.
Eric Swall was at zero percent in the betting market.
So for that moment in time, because it's reacting instantly
to real world events, it could be better. Let's say,
as an example that you know, the Tom Steyer is
making a little run here at the end. It does
seem as though he's getting some of these people who
(06:45):
are concerned about the top two. They want to vote
for somebody who can win. And he seems to be
doing better with young people right now and some of
these late deciders, and the betting market might be able
to pick that up better than a poll that was
put out by you know, ppi C, that was done
May eighteenth, but released last week. You know. So that
moment in time thing is interesting. Being able to react
(07:07):
to real world events is interesting. But I wouldn't generally
say that a betting market is better than a poll.
A poll has deeper methodology. You can look at how
Latinos are participating, what is happening with older voters, what
is happening with younger voters. You can learn real lessons
about the contours of the race rather than just the
top line. And it's just more reliable from pole to
(07:30):
poll than a betting market.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
Paul Mitchell is a political analyst specializing in the data
sciences of the elections and things that are going on. Paul,
I'm gonna I have more questions about that, because I
see I see some pratfalls to it.
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We just got word that nobody was supposed to be
at Spencer Pratt's part. There was not going to be
a party tonight, super sisor Pratt secret close friends and
family and advisors perhaps, and that was it. And then
everybody got winned that he was at a restaurant, and
(08:09):
everybody showed up, and now it's mayhem because they've all
been kicked out and they're all walking on the sidewalk
now outside the restaurant.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
Which is great because it was. We came in to
get ready for the show. All of a sudden we
started seeing, you know, Channel five is out there, Fox
eleven is out there, everybody's showing up, and we went,
what the heck? You know, we were told, don't come
out here, it's a closed party, can't have this, and
then they all basically barged in anyway. They went, it's
a restaurant, what are they gonna do? Kick us out?
And then they did. They did. That's fantastic. I love that.
(08:39):
We'll get to we'll get an update from Crozier here
in just a few moments. We are joining the studio
right now by Paul Mitchell. He's a cant I call
you a data analyst, a political analyst, a data scientist,
what chief chief data enter. Yeah, and you work with
redistricting partners. You were a part of the architect on
Prop fifty, So that wins you some fans and some
haters as well. I'm sure even the haters respect a
(09:01):
little bit, you know. Yeah, yeah, I mean science is
science behind that, and I'm we were just discussing the
impact of the predictive markets CALSHI and pollingmarket. You were
talking about how they can be very reactive. And you
use the Swallowell news breaking as an example, the polls
were you know, a week behind on that because they
certainly had you know, they had to kind of recalibrate
(09:22):
everything all of a sudden. One of the things I
heard Tim Kinway Junior bring this up. He was filling
in on a show earlier today that shall not be named,
and it was mine and Tim made mention of these
markets are bizarre because someone may put money down on
the market and then go vote for the person that
they just put money down on. It strikes me as
(09:43):
I don't want to say insider trading, but it's almost
very Pete Rose, like he's betting on the game that
he's playing in. You know. That seems a little bit
odd to me.
Speaker 6 (09:50):
Well, it's interesting because the founders of these betting markets
when they talk about why they're so wonderful, in part
they're talking about, well, insiders are going to trade because
they have knowledge. You don't get people with inside knowledge
coming on KFI or going you know, around talking about
all the secrets in their industry. But if they can
bet on it with their own money, with those secrets
in mind, they can actually tell the public in a
(10:12):
way where things are gonna move. And so there's a
lot of data to suggests that predictive markets are really
good at like looking at you know, other world events,
you know, and we've seen it being abused with you know,
soldiers betting on Venzuela. And one of the interesting things,
and this is a story that I haven't told because
I didn't want to get in trouble, but one of
the Matt Mayhan events that apparently happened in the Silicon Valley,
(10:35):
I talked to a reporter that there was somebody at
a Matt Mayhon event that said, there's three ways you
can help Matt Mayhon and he's candidate for governor. One
is you can donate, you can volunteer, or you can
bet for him on Calshi. And the idea there was
that if we can get enough of our friends to
bet on Calshi for a candidate, even if it was
like a local race, then we can go put up
(10:57):
a tweet that says this candidate's leading. That will get
more media attention, that'll bring more eyeballs to the candidate,
that'll help that candidate in polling, and you start the
ball rolling with these betting markets and you are trying
to game it. There's actually a legislator in Sacramento who's
looking at the idea that if you're betting on a
candidate with the interest of increasing their vote share or
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helping them electorally, that that should be a reportable contribution
in a way.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Well like we would see the same thing. There's an
analogy somewhere in there regarding Spencer Pratt and the AI
videos that have come out and gone viral, because while
they may not cost very much in terms of being
an actual contribution to the campaign, they've made a massive
impact on that race.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
Yeah, and it's.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
Really I've seen a lot of those videos, but you know,
I don't know who's paying for those or you know,
how you calculate the value. I mean, the way the
campaign finance law works. If I'm a volunteer and I
want to do a video and posted whatever, that's fine.
But you're right, you're talking about something that is almost
like a gray area with this campaign activity. Whether it's
betting for somebody to win because you want to up
(12:00):
their numbers in the Calchier market, or putting out viral
videos to try to influence folks it's it's all part
of what's this new modern campaign. I think the Spencer
Pratt campaign has broken ground in some ways. It may
not be so great for future campaigns.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
It was going to happen sooner later though. That's a
good question about that, all right. Paul Mitchell, applical analyst
to data scientists. Paul, thank you so much for your
insight tonight. Thanks. I appreciate it. Yeah, I'm glad that
you're here.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
We'll come back. We're going to talk with Brigida da Gastino.
She is live at one of the local polling places.
We'll keep an eye on any problems that perhaps come
up with those of course coming up.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
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Speaker 5 (12:43):
It is our election night coverage, John Chris, maryl Gary Hoffman.
As we take a look at all the different primary
races that are going on, and a ton of races,
not only a kind of the big ones that many, many,
many many people are paying attention to, not just in
California but nationwide. That people are watching the LA mayor's
race in the same way to we were watching the
New York mayoral race last fall, and of course so
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much of the country is watching to see what's gonna
happen with the governor's race. Let's find out what's going
out at the polling places first, Brigida Deagastino, is is
that the polling place? Bragia, You've been watching people coming
and going, dropping ballots off, and has it been has
it been eventful at all? Have have we seen anything
of note?
Speaker 7 (13:23):
I mean, I saw a kid crash his motorcycle out
in Pierce College.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
Is an actual motorcycle or was it an e bike?
Speaker 7 (13:29):
It was an actual motorcycle. It was a little shocking,
but he was okay. He got up and I'm assuming
he went to vote. But I'm at Peerce College, which
is in Woodland Hills, and voters here come from all
kinds of communities in the West Valley.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
Yeah. And one of the things that I've noticed today
is I haven't seen a lot of people frustrated with
the voting apparatus. I mean, for the most part, this
has been pretty smooth. We haven't had any machines breaking down,
we haven't had any long lines, we haven't had any
printer not working or anything of that sort. Did you
see any issues at all?
Speaker 7 (14:04):
No, people are not frustrated with that, but they're definitely
fired up and frustrated about a lot of the issues,
especially the status quo. A lot of people are just
telling me that they are really tired of what's going
on here. Regardless of their incomes, housing situations, and political priorities.
They pretty much all say that LA is headed in
the wrong direction.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
At this point though no appearance of any problems. There's
no big long lines yet or anything.
Speaker 7 (14:30):
No, it's been a very slow stream of people. It's
been pretty consistent, but every time I've looked in between
twenty and fifty people. But it is a huge campus,
so there's no lines.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
Excellent in Woodland Hills. What is that they're coming back
to you as their biggest issues? Is it fire related?
Is it homeless related? What is it that they're saying?
This is really what's driving them to the polls.
Speaker 7 (14:50):
So it's pretty much the same concerns across the board.
Affordable housing, homelessness is of course the biggest one that
I've heard, rising food prices, overall cost of living, and yeah,
the fires. Absolutely. I was really surprised people weren't talking
about the down ballot races. You know, Superintendent was a
Big One Insurance commission commissioner. But I am at a college,
so there's a lot of younger people here. They don't
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own houses necessarily or have kids in school.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
Yeah, Bragida, we'll check in with you throughout the night.
Thanks for your time, Bragita again out in Woodland Hills.
Heather Brooker is also joining us, and Heather Brooker is
live in Steve Hilton's camp down in Orange County.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
How's it going?
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Sorry, I'll refer to you in a more professional sense, Heather,
how's it going?
Speaker 8 (15:35):
I must insist that you do thank you, that is,
miss Brooker, if you're nasty. Hey, So I am here
at the Hilton Waterfront Resort. Gorgeous resort if you've ever
been down here, were steps away from the beach, lots
of pools, and this seems to be the setting that
Steve Hilton has chosen to have his big watch party
here tonight. We've got a lot of signage up all over,
(15:58):
big balloon arches. Every sign and every arch and every
table is decorated with Change is Coming. There's also a
swag table that's set up. You can get your hats
and books and t shirts all with you know, different
phrases from Steve Hilton on it. And actually he just
came out a few moments ago and talked to the media.
(16:18):
We were hoping to grab him, but he just did
sort of like a big like media you know, general
like gromment and you know, huh a scrump. Yeah, let
me go, let me do. I was hoping to grab him,
but he was rushed rushed away to go. I guess
and await the numbers that are coming in this party though,
you guys, it's open to the general public, but only
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if people pre registered to be able to come in.
They're expecting about seven hundreds people to come in here tonight,
which is crazy because this ballroom isn't how you feel
like it's gonna hold seven hundred people when we've already
got about one hundred members of the media here. But
if you're wondering, there is a photo booth and I
will be participating in the photo looks, so you just wait.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
You very good, thanks, Heather Brooker, appreciate that. Heather Brooker
just rated out Steve Hilton to the fire Marshall. Nice
jound on that one. Unbelievable. Hey, uh real quick here
before we before we go to the election desk. I
saw the picture of you on the social media's too,
Gary Mile and down to the pizza from Joe Peeps.
(17:24):
Oh yes, yeah, that's a good pizza.
Speaker 7 (17:27):
It was so good.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
I got it fresh out of them. It's a bigger
piece than you expect. And what you didn't see because
you were, you know, on Gary time. Yeah, is the
meatball subs? What meat ball subs? Yeah? Crow, did you
steal one?
Speaker 9 (17:43):
Is that?
Speaker 7 (17:43):
What that is?
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Right there on your cheek?
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Yeah, that's just extra catch up that you just threw on.
Speaker 6 (17:51):
Just for the pizza is really good because it's that
that thinner crust New York style, which I love.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
It is so good.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
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Chris Merrill. We will talk at eight o'clock. We'll see
if we get any of those numbers right away. Some
of those early numbers are going to be pretty unpredictable.
For the eight o'clock hour, we'll see if any of
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it kind of susses out before we wrap things up
by ten o'clock obviously again keeping our eyes on the
race to replace gaven Neusom as governor. Karen Bass trying
to fight off a couple of challengers in the LA
mayor's race, a handful of competitive congressional races where we'll
see those the top two vote getters advance. Eileen Gonzalez
(18:44):
is joining us. Elin Gonzalez has been stationed at Karen
Bass's camp to see how things go on this election night. Eileen,
how's it going well?
Speaker 7 (18:52):
Thanks?
Speaker 9 (18:52):
Starting to pick up here. The event doesn't start until
eight o'clock. The door's open to the press at six,
so there's still some setup going on. They're putting some
back drops up. They've got a stage here and a podium,
and they're setting up for a band. They've got drums
and a keyboard. So I don't know what's going on there,
but it's kind of a relatively small space, maybe if
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it's about two hundred and fifty people. They've got a
dozen cameras set up for local and national media outlets.
And Karen Bass will be here later. She's going to
talk about, you know, her highlights of her record changing LA.
I'm going to talk about decreasing, decreasing, homelessness and prime
(19:33):
and housing and bringing Hollywood production back to LA. But again,
it's going to start till eight o'clock. So it's been
a slow rolling start, but it is starting to pick
up now.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
Eileen, you may mentioned about two hundred and fifty people
we talked with. Heather Brooker was at the Steve Hilton camp,
and we know that Spencer Pratt has got a private
party going on that's invite only. Is this an invite
only sort of situation or is it a first two
fifty first get in?
Speaker 9 (19:57):
You know, I can tell you from the press site only,
it's it's a pretty closed deal. I'm pretty sure it's
invite only, because even I had trouble. I had trouble
getting in. We are s vp'd yesterday, we are s
VP today. Our boss Jason had tried to rs VP
(20:18):
for us and nothing. I reached out to their camp
on Instagram and I finally had someone to get back
to me. And then, oddly enough, after we did our
five o'clock hit and I talked about how we couldn't
get in and I was just going to show up anyway. Yeah,
somebody responded. They responded that got in. Yeah, So yeah,
it's not easy to get in here.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
It's no secret, no secret.
Speaker 9 (20:42):
Yeah, these calls were getting the cold.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
Bring with it a certain amount of animosity potentially depending
on who the candidate.
Speaker 9 (20:50):
Is, Yes, exactly potentially.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Yeah, I lean great stuff. We will check in back
back in with you a little bit later.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
Thank you. Sound at Allen Gonzoz.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
You mentioned Spencer Pratt's place, Don Antonio's over on West.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
Pico is where he is. WHOA, uh, that's private. H Well,
it is private.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Here's one of the Fox News reporters out from Spencer Pratt.
Speaker 10 (21:13):
Campaign has been unconventional from the start, remains unconventional. Tonight
they have a victory party planned here at Don Antonio's
restaurant on the west side of LA. Normally you would
invite the media into what you think is going to
be a victory party. Well, they just kicked all the
media out. They want to this to be apparently, as
they call it, a private event.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
So it's been.
Speaker 10 (21:33):
Unconventional from the very beginning. It is continuing that way.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
And to be honest, that's that uh fiasco. I think
it's the collective now on the fiasco of reporters that's
out now on West Pico outside the restaurant. That's that's
the most Uh, that's the most activity we've seen in
a primary election watch event in years.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
Yeah, that's true. Everybody wanted to be a part of that.
The thing that strikes me is that for a guy
that has been so media savvy, let's say that he's
had i'm going to say more earned attention than the
other candidates in this race, it is odd to me
that he's having a private party. And some people are
trying to read into that, and I don't know if
there's anything to read into that, but some people are saying, well,
(22:20):
he's got internal polling that shows he's not doing that well,
and so he doesn't want to have a party where
he's got cameras on him if he's losing. And I
don't know if I'd buy into that. It goes back.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
I would just say I don't know enough about his
campaign inner workings, yeah, to know this with any real certainty.
But it sounds like there's a bunch of people who
aren't quite as experienced in this kind of thing as
you would see around a Karen Bass, around a Javier
Besserra or somebody like that.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
Even Steve Hilton. He's not.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
He started out as a not politically savvy guy. And
I heard a great podcast today. It was specifically talking
about his campaign and what went from the January announcement
where everybody's like, how much more LA could you get
than a reality show guy from twenty years ago also
(23:15):
who was selling crystals selling crystals? How much more LA
can you get than that guy saying he's going to
run for mayor? And at first, for weeks, I didn't
want to talk to the guy.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
I didn't think it.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
I didn't think it was important. I didn't think it
was going to be worthwhile. But when he got into
the thick of things, especially after that debate performance where
he was able to hold his own against two people
who have been doing politics for some time, the quote
from this political analyst was over the last several weeks,
(23:47):
Spencer Pratt has convinced Spencer Pratt to vote for Spencer
Pratt that he realized there is something there. The language
that he uses of I don't want to say the
common man because that sounds condescending, but the frustrations that
he has put a voice to are all very real,
(24:09):
and that kind of momentum is un undeniable.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
I'm going to say somebody is advising him because he's
gone from angry reality show guy to someone who all
of a sudden knows he knows the data, right. I mean,
that was one of the things that that became very
clear when he was on with Michael and I. It
became clear during the debate that you're talking about, like
he's able to say the wins were never over forty
(24:36):
miles an hour during the first seven hours of the
Palisades fire. Yeah, that's not something Spencer Pratt from January
new Right. So somebody's advising him, somebody's got flash cards
with him and saying, here's what you got to know,
here's what's going on with inside Safe, here's what's going
on with the you know whatever. The homeless numbers are
on Wilshire boom boom, boom, boom boom, and he's got them.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
I think the best piece of advice, if that's true,
the best piece of advice that someone has apparently given him,
is don't answer the questions you don't know the answers to,
but find out.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
And he he is.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
Well known for, you know, if he's approached about a
specific topic that he doesn't quite know about. He did
an interview with John Played It actually to earlier where
he was on with Bill Maher, and Bill Maher brought
up the question the issue of solar panels, and Spencer
Pratt kind of tripped up ignored part of that rule,
which was he said, I think they're being taxed now,
(25:25):
and Bill Maher said, what do you mean they're being taxed?
And he goes, well, I think they're being taxed, and
then stepped back and thought to himself, hey, I shouldn't
if I don't know what I'm talking about, I should
not answer it definitively. So he said, my job is
and he went down his you know hot three list
of homelessness, you know, fire safety, and animal cruelty. But
(25:45):
then said, and then I'll take care of taxes. I'll
take care of whatever the solar thing is that you're
talking about, but my priority is not taxing on your
solar panels kind of stuff. So someone has told him
you don't know the answer, find it out so that
next time it comes up it can be answer.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
I mean, that's that's just the smart politics. But not
everybody gets that. Yeah, I mean it feels like politics
won on one, but not everybody necessarily is.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Polls closed just a couple of minutes. On the other
side of this, we should be able to get some numbers.
We'll see what they are. One race we're gonna be
ready to call as soon as we come back. Really yeah,
I'm not going to tell you what. That's a tease, Gary,
That's how tea. Gary Off and Chris Merrill. Our primary
election coverage will continue right after
Speaker 1 (26:27):
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