November 19, 2024 • 35 mins
ICYMI: Hour Two of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – ‘Beyond the Box Score’ with regular guest contributor Jackie Rae; Long Beach Post/WNBA Reporter and host of ‘The Jackie Rae Show,’ weighing in on 'Inside the NBA' moving to ESPN/ABC in 2025 & the Sports World’s reaction to Jake Paul's win over Mike Tyson…PLUS – A look at the Weekend Box Office AND your weekly horoscope with “ways to use astrology to spice up your sex life during Cuffing Season” - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
KFI Most Kelly Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app and
as customary, Jackie Ray joins me on this Monday evening.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Good evening, Jackie Ray, good evening, Good to see you.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
We had talked about how the show Inside the NBA,
which was on TNT, featured Ernie Johnson Jr. Charles Barkley,
Kenny Smith, Shaquille O'Neill. I said something to the effect
that it was the best sports show absolutely on television,
bar none. Nothing else is close. And I said that
against the backdrop of this bidding war for NBA television rights.
(00:42):
T and T had a portion of it, ESPN, Slash,
ABC had a portion of it, and I know that
NBC was in the running for it. We do know
that T and T will not have the rights for
it anymore. So the question was what was going to
happen to this gold standard show in the next few years.
What we do know at least next year, Inside the
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NBA will appear on ESPN and ABC next year. It
makes perfect sense to me. You have a hit show,
I mean, a tremendous show, and in fact, it'll probably
get more exposure on ESPN and ABC together than T
and T because unless you're like a died in the
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wool NBA fan, you're not watching T and T. They
don't have as many games as ESPN and ABC, and
also T and T they don't get to carry the finals,
so you'll get to see inside the NBA on at
least those two networks. I don't know if you felt
this idea, but I think finally they made the easy
decision right in front of them.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
I thought this was the way to go from the jump.
I'm a little surprised that it took this long. And
the reason for that is I know a lot of
novice basketball fans. To your point, they don't really watch.
No one really watches CNT for the game. Like if
you're one of those people who are just scouring, you know,
because you don't want to pay for whatever service that
you can watch the Lakers and all that good stuff,
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you might watch. But for the most part, people aren't
tuning into TNT on a regular basis because it's just
like you said, doesn't carry enough games. But I literally
have a friend who is not really a basketball fan,
but loves to watch TNT because she lives for this show.
She couldn't tell you what Lebron James's number is. She
barely knows who Bronni is, but she loves she loves
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the chemistry of this team because they're funny, they're quirky,
they make halftime fun and they're common. And so you
don't you don't want to lose that, especially right now
when the NBA is losing viewership. You don't want to
lose such a great sports show that is bringing in fans.
So this was a common sense move for me. I'm
I'm glad they finally got this done.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
And I say they because the NBA, I'm quite sure
how to say in this, as well as the networks
had to say in this to your point, I know
people me included, I don't even care who was playing
in the game. I just want to see their show
inside the NBA. And if you don't know the dynamics
between Charles Barkley, we've played some of the audio before
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Charles Barkley and Shack are Kenny run for the Kenny
Smith with his knock knees and running through the big
screen and he'll fall over or something there are some
really really funny unscripted moments, and I know people were
enjoying the NBA more just because of this show. And
far too often you find a network television, even cable television,
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they will cancel these shows and not understand the impact
of these shows. For once they've gotten it right now,
I don't think it's going to change the field, even
though it will be in a different studio.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
But no, it's not going to change the field. This
is all about them.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
You you you live for Ernie's face of just I
don't he sometimes he has this confusion discussed, but he like, yeah,
his expressions are great. The chemistry that they have built
up and the banter between them, it doesn't matter. They
could literally be in one of those five thousand dollars
backyards and it's still going to be a great show.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
And to your point, once again, it's those four.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Now they may sub in some people on some occasions,
like Chris Webber and others, it's not the same.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
It's not Kennis Parker's done it a few times.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah, no disrespect. It doesn't have the same type of chemistry. Now,
I wonder why this show has not grown beyond the
show in the way that you have a Shannon Sharp
and he would do stuff for not only his podcast,
but it'll have nightcap with Chad o Cho Senko. I'm
surprised these four haven't done something similar, given that they
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spend enough time together, they could probably do a podcast
and monetize that in a way that these other sports
figures have.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
I would imagine one of the key points in that
is probably Shack because he does everything. He invests, he
owns businesses, he's running around. He just did another rap song,
you know, so he's out there doing several different things.
And then you know Kenny. I don't know Kenny. He's
probably got.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Other stuff they have going on, but it seems like
it would be low hanging fruit yea, and an easy
thing to do, especially in this podcast world, the social
media world, where you could look put it this way.
I talk about this because I would love to hear
Charles Barkley unscripted in an environment where he can say
absolutely everything he wants. And I've seen it in person,
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but you don't get to see it long form in
a video medium.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
I would love to see that.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
I would love to see Shaquille O'Neill doing the same thing.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Well, doesn't Charles and Ernie have like an offshoot pocket.
It's not as good though. It's kind of dry compared
to right.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
It's kind of dry and it's kind of tanged, but
when they're all together, it's never tanged.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
But this might be the catalyst that makes that happen.
Because ESPN a lot of their programming. The numbers are declining,
so now maybe they can figure out a way to
make this work. All of them are familiar with the
ESPN platform, so it's not a huge leap. So maybe
this is how we get that to happen.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Well, I'm gonna try not to be greedy, but I
am glad that they're keeping inside the NBA is a
part of the NBA. It definitely wasn't broke. You didn't
need to fix it. Just keep it as is. People
will find it and it will increase viewership for all involved.
But speaking of viewership, when we come back, we have
to talk about that thing which happened Friday night on Netflix,
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which was supposedly some sort of boxing match.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
And I have a real question for you.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Since people are betting on it, people believe that it
is legitimate competition. I don't believe it is, and I
am by no means a conspiracy theorists, but I don't
think this is legitimate competition, and I would love to
get your thoughts on that. On the other side, I
haven't it Later with Mo Kelly, Jackie Ray joins me
in studio. Okay, if I AM six forty live everywhere
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Speaker 1 (06:56):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Now.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
I don't know where you were, but maybe you were
one of the sixty million people who tuned in to
see that WWE match between and I say WWE because
Jake Paul is connected to the WWE. He is say
personality for WWE that event on Friday between Jake Paul
and Mike Tyson. I have been a boxing fan all
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my life. I've been a Mike Tyson fan since he
came on the scene, and he won the World Heavyweight Championship,
Lineal Heavyweight Championship back when he was twenty he is
now fifty eight.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
He had no business being in the ring.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
And I said from the very beginning, I didn't want
to remember him that way, and I thought that if
he were to win, he'd have to beat Jake Paul
within the first two rounds. Yep, it was not going
to happen after that. Look, I don't care what type
of shape you're in. You know, Father Time is undefeated
for a reason, and this is coming on the heels up.
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Excuse me, this is coming on the heels of Evander
Holyfield getting the breaks beat off him by Vietor Belfort,
who was forty four and a non boxer. There was
no way this is going to end well for Mike Tyson, right.
But here is what really bothers me. We're told that
this is legitimate competition, and yet it's not a sanctioned fight.
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They had eight rounds, two minutes each. They had fourteen
ounce gloves instead of ten, which is nice. It's a
little more padding. I didn't want anyone to die in
the ring. But am I the only one who thinks
that this is not legitimate competition and there's not some
level of scripting to this?
Speaker 3 (08:44):
It would be impossible.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
I think that the only people who would think there's
any kind of credence to this and that it's a
real in any way are people who know nothing about boxing,
because that's just not what when you're talking about boxers
in their prime, they after they win in a match,
they always call out the next guy, the guy that
has proven himself in the ring, and the person that
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is the end all be all, the person that's difficult
to beat, because that's how you continue to level up
in the sport. UFC is the same way. You want
to beat the person that nobody can beat. You don't
want to beat the guy that's thirty years older than you.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Excuse me, excuse me, thirty one.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Oh, it's my bad, thirty one and definitely got his
AARP card. You don't want to do that, that's no shade.
I'm looking forward to my AARP discounts. They will come
in one day. But my point is Jake doesn't take
it seriously, so how as we can. There's no real
boxing fan that will take it seriously. And look, I
get it. If Jake doesn't want to come up through
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the ranks, if he doesn't want to do the fight
where he has to fight, you know, go through the trenches,
fight the no names, get those big wins and to
finally get on a real ticket. There's still ways to
do it. Now you've establish this yourself as this person
who can get people paid. There are a ton of
boxers right now who have put in the work that
you could put in that ring to prove if you
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really have any kind of boxing legitimacy. But when you're
boxing a guy who is well past his prime and
has had a plethora of issues since then, and it's
just not legitimate. And I don't think Jake personally takes
it legitimately. I think that he presents it that way
for the financial gain, but there's no way that this
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is a legitimate situation.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
I don't fault the business model.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
If you can get sixty million people to watch or
on other instances, pay to see you stand in the
ring with basketball players or washed up MMA folks. For
you to be able to do that and parlay that
into a multi I would say of eight figure deal
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with WWE, you're.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Doing something right.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
As an entertainer and performer, I do not begrudge him right,
but as a fan of sport and actual competition, I
hate it because it's neither.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Now.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Last I heard, he's trying to call out Canelo Alvarez
come on, and he would outweigh him by a good
sixty pounds.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
He might as well call out Jackie Ray.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
At this point, I saw the themes where he was
calling out Muhammad Ali. You know, it's just it, that's
the thing with you're mocking the sport. You're not actually
trying to be a serious entrant in the sport. Fight
a real boxer who is this side of forty five
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a real boxer, And it may not give the type
of pay per view, or it may because people be curious,
can this guy actually fight? I don't think Tommy Fury,
who beat Jake Paul, has fought since that.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Fight, right, And I just again, you know, he presents
himself like he's a boxer, Like he goes in and
he puts in the work and he does all of
these things. Okay, well then you still have to prove
yourself in on the boxing stage. Look, I live in
Long Beach. There's a gym down the street from my house.
I would love to broker a fight between you and
one person in that gym that no one has ever
(12:07):
heard of. I guarantee you the outcome is different. And
then that point, I feel like more people will be like, oh, well,
that's he's not a real boxer. Then all of a sudden,
people will accept the truth about the situation. But right
now people want to accept this fallacy because he's fighting
people way past their prime. Anywhere any other situation we
would call Jake Paul a bully, we would call a
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bully and a fraud. And I just again, I'm with you.
I'm not hating his business model. I read that prior
to this fight, Mike Tyson's networks was like ten million.
I think it's at least double that, so it's a
win win for everyone. But at the same time, I
just don't I didn't watch it because I just don't
enjoy it.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
I really enjoy the sport of boxing.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
I enjoy seeing people play defense and understand what their
opponent is doing and really have this cadence and this
song and dance that they're doing in the ring.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
So I'm never going to watch Jake Paul. I would
never pay for Jake Paul.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
But since it was included in my subscription on Netflix,
and it was one of those things that we call
a talker, people were talking about it.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
To his benefit, he gets people talking. I watched it.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
I was in the hotel bar watching it on my
phone via my Netflix subscription, and it was it was bad.
It was a bad product, it was a bad fight.
It was not entertaining, it was not enjoyable, it was
not exciting.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
And I'm not an MMA fan.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
I'm not a fan of that sport because I like
to see more technical.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Skill than what vitality.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Yeah, then just straight throughtality and I'm like you and
I'm into the sweet science. I can't find a good
boxing match more because boxing is so messed up as
a sport. They can't get the different organizations together and
stage the fights that we want to see like they
did in the nineteen eighties. You'll never see another time
in which you have a Sugar Ray Leonard fight everyone
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in his weight class who was the best of the
time multiple times, fighting Roberto Duran twice, or Tommy Hearns
three times, Marvin Hagler, will Frado Benitez.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
You'll never have that again.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
And to Dana White's credit, the best in MMA fight
the best in MMA. To his detriment, his fighters are
getting robbed. They're not getting out anything.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
And that was the whole That's what gave birth to
Jake Paul because that is how he started. He said, Hey,
if you want to get paid, come over here Now.
When he initially said that, I was like, I can't
in good conscious see these people get beat like this
for peanuts.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
So yeah, do your thing, Jake Paul.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
But now he's become, in my opinion, a detriment to
the sport because now he is really kind of taking
a taken away to the nuances and the training and
the commitment.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
And that's what people don't get.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
There's a commitment that you have to have to be
great at this day in and day out. And so
it's it's I wish we could find middle ground because
he's not wrong in that Dana White is out here
robbing people.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
I could accept exhibitions. Mike Tyson, Roy Jones Junior was
an exhibition, okay, and it looked like we thought it would, right,
but it still was a boxing match. This is a
circus now. This is like you're looking. You're watching to
see you the bearded lady. You're looking for the guy
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with three appendages or something. You're not looking for an
actual sporting competition. And that's why I do begrudge Jake
Paul what he's done to what I love about boxing. Now,
let me just ask you this before we get out
of here from a societal standpoint, we can't appreciate his
business strategy. We can appreciate him calling out Dana White,
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which he has done, But is there any real negative
effect beyond boxing as what we want boxing to be?
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Is there anything wrong with this?
Speaker 4 (15:54):
I mean, I think it's just a narrative in our
society as a whole. You know, people think that they
can just kind of skate by on certain things without
putting in the actual work. And I think we've seen
that across the board. I think one of the reasons
people don't have as a journalist, I've seen this, People
don't have the same faith and journalists anymore is because
people grab a mic and they head out to the
street and all of a sudden they feel like they're
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a journalist.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Or they start a blog.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
They start a blog. Yeah, And so I think that's
it's part of our society. It's literally the dumbing down
of our society. And people think that just because they
want to do something, the training and the dedication and
the commitment and the passion is irrelevant.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
And so it's it's a problematic across the board.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
You are so right, because I can't tell you how
many times people will approach me mm hmm, and either
they may not like me or they don't know the
dedication to the craft which is required and say I.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Can do what you do now you can?
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Well, I tell them the same thing every single time.
I can give you the email of my program director,
or you can send your air check to me and
I will send it to them.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
I'm not a hater. If you can do it better
than me, I'll applaud you and I will show you
a way to get there.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
But more times than not, they just want to talk
stuff because they don't understand what is actually required in
what we do. And I think you're spot on with that,
and that's maybe the larger issue, because you have someone
who wants to be taken seriously as a boxer, but
doesn't want to have actual.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Fights exactly, doesn't want to put in the work. It's terrible.
Can I shout out somebody before I guess? So you know,
I've been doing the moll Kelly Show for a while now,
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Might well part two of my birthday party last night
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the Jackie Ray Show on it, and I just wanted
to shout her out.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Did you put it on social media?
Speaker 4 (17:51):
I will take a picture and I'll put it on
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Speaker 2 (18:22):
Well, we're coming up on Small Business Saturday, so why
don't we just go ahead and.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Start that early. Yeah, let's do that. Jack Ray is
always good to see you too.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 2 (18:34):
Forty and the number one movie this past weekend. Not surprised,
but it was a very soft number one. It was
Red one, the movie starring Dwayne the Rock Johnson and
Chris Evans. They have to save Santa Claus, who had
been kidnapped.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
I've seen the trailers.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
I have no desire to see this movie, even though
I'm a fan of Dwayne Johnson and Chris Evan. The
whole idea of this movie just seems Netflix written all
over it. It seems like it could have been perfect
for streaming over the holidays, not that I would actually
go to the theater to see it. And I say that,
and I say Netflix because Chris Evans has done a
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lot of stuff on Netflix. Dwayne Johnson has done a
lot of stuff on Netflix. Why this garnered a theatrical release,
I'm just not sure.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
But it came in at number one.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
It did thirty two million domestically, did fifty one internationally,
for a total of eighty three million dollars.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
Which is light for the Rock, Yes, that's light, and
Chris Evans.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
That's light. Oh, I'll tell you how light it is.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Can you imagine that this movie's budget was two hundred
and fifty million dollars, your kid, that's like Avengers in
game level budget, two hundred and fifty million, and it
doesn't have the type of marketing campaign that any Avengers
this movie would have two hundred There's no way in
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the world that you could have told me that this
movie was ever going to break evening even. It's impossible
for this movie, even if it had one hundred and
twenty five million this first weekend, which was not still
was not going to break even. Two hundred and fifty
million about a movie that's you know, you're trying to
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save SATA.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
I actually thought that this was going to be released
on Netflix. I didn't know it was coming to theaters,
and so I missed the opportunity to get tickets because, yeah,
I'm interested in seeing it, but I'm thinking this has
to be one of those things that Netflix put it
out so it can be like in contention for for
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a Razzie, not for an award. That's this an award.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Razzie is a war.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
No.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
I heard it wasn't that bad though.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Okay, let's say it's not that bad.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
It's just not a movie which is probably going to
have the type of support which justifies the two hundred
and fifty million dollar price tag. And I don't know
Dwayne Johnson is a leading man. I'll give him that,
but I don't know if he can carry a blockbuster
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this size. We saw what he did with Black Adam
and that wasn't bad. I didn't dislike that, but that
also was dislike it. I did not dislike it, but
my point was was yours Twalla where comparable budget.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
It did not make the money that they would have hoped.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
And just adding Chris Evans, who I think is a
fine actor, but I don't know if he can move
the meter by himself or as a part of a
you know, a tandem, a buddy cop.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
You know.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
The rock has now a history of big budget releases
that he has been the lead in that have failed
to move the needle at the box office. Because also
that Jungle Crew, which I know it co starred what's
her name, uh Krazanski's wife Emily Blunt, Emily Blunt, but
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that film was a big disappointment at the box office.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
It helps that these big movies are still being shown
in theaters, but if they don't perform, well, it's not
going to do a lot for theaters. And I mentioned
that because it was released in more than four thousand theaters,
mean that it's a very wide release. You can get
as many as maybe forty four hundred and forty five
hundred theaters, so it is out there. It's per screen
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average is just not all that impressive. And it's not
gonna do any better next week, just because we're a
week closer to Christmas or something. If if you can't
bring it in this first week, it's not like it's
gonna you know, they're gonna bring it in week two.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
I'm gonna buy a ticket sport, even if I can't
see it. I support the Rock. Yeah, I'm just gonna
support him on streaming, that's all.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
He needs your money, jiujuala, give till it hurts. Here's
something else coming in.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Second is Venom The Last Dance, and we all know
by just about every measure it's a horrible movie. But
it's grossed four hundred and thirty six million dollars worldwide.
It is making money for Sony. That means there's got
to be like Venom the After Party, the Diddy Party
or something. If this is the Last Dance, there has
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to be another Venom. Why Because it is a money maker.
As much as I hate to say that, how many
other movies made close to a half a billion dollars
this year, a handful Deadpool, Wolverine.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Inside Out to not many.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
So anytime a studio can point to a movie, damn sure,
Red One is not gonna make a half a billion.
So Venom the Last Dance obviously is turning a profit
and has been profitable for Sony Pictures.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
It is a hit by all standards, especially when you
consider nothing is coming out next week or the week
after or the week after that that is going to
take this film out of the top five, which mean
you have to.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Be number one, right, which means theaters are not going
to be as aggressive in dropping it because they need
something to put in its place. And if this movie
is still doing business, there's no need to move it.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
I mean, you keep it where it is.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
And let me just amend what I was saying before
I said that people were tired of bad superhero movies.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
It's not the genre itself.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Here's an example of a bad superhero movie and it's
still doing better than ninety five percent of the other
movies from other genres.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
I don't know what to say. Yeah, for all the people.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Who are supposedly tired of the genre, well y'all are
going to see Venom. Y'all went to see Deadpool and Wolverine.
It's what people are actually going to see. So for
all the criticisms, the actions are not meeting the criticism.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Now, what were you going to say about Dwayne Johnson, Mark?
Speaker 6 (25:05):
I hadn't planned on saying anything, but I'm glad to
know you're the one person on earth who liked Black Adham.
I could barely make it through that. I really two people.
It was a cowpie. You're both overruled. No, no, No, Steamer, Steamer.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
I actually wanted to see a sequel to that with
Henry Cavell, more so than anything named Shazam.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
I'll watch Henry cavill as Superman any day. I think
it was the worst decision DC's made to get rid
of him and Superman. He was a really good Superman
in some mediocre movies.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
But I understand why they did because he's going to
age out of the role long term. If you're trying
to have a franchise going forward, it wasn't going to
be with Henry Cavell because he just wouldn't fit the role.
Speaker 6 (25:47):
Oh, he had a few more years left. Look at
how old George Reeves looked and he is the.
Speaker 7 (25:53):
Archetype trying to dig George Reeves up out of his grave. There,
both of you leave George Reeves alone, taking a douce
on George Reeves like that?
Speaker 2 (26:04):
How dare you saying for Adam West is going to
be the next Batman?
Speaker 6 (26:08):
I'll get right out of this booth and kill both
of you on the spot.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
How mean?
Speaker 6 (26:13):
Like?
Speaker 3 (26:14):
How did George Reeves can fit but Adam West wouldn't fit?
Adam West was magnificent. He was. He's easily one of
the best batman.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Okay, so let's cast him alongside Colin Ferrell.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
What's the point of this, would you say? George Reeves?
Speaker 6 (26:31):
He was a great superman if you probably haven't even
seen any of those shows, have you?
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Yes? I have.
Speaker 6 (26:35):
They've heard magnificent, which is a round back of the day. Well,
they were before as old as you are. Those shows
are before both our times. But there's no but they
were on TV all the time. They're great shows. With
him laying on the table, you got.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
It, jumping out the window onto a mattress.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
Yes, it was a midday filler when you were ditching school.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Yes, Mark, you couldn't avoid them.
Speaker 6 (26:56):
I want both of you to know that I forgive
you for your found in offensive ignorance. Watch that episode
of the George Reefs Superman where he takes the blind
girl flying, and if you still aren't on board, are.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
You buried both alive?
Speaker 6 (27:10):
Are you really trying to fight for a George Yes survival? Absolutely,
even more so than for Kung George Reeves in a
Zack Snyder movie.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
How about that? Is that what you're gunning for, James
gun I'm not gonna know. There's dapples and oranges different,
but that's the whole point. That's why we're saying that
Henry Cavill.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
They had to move on from Henry Cavill because it
didn't fit the vision of James gun And also, a
fifty year old Superman in a contemporary movie sense, unless
you're talking about a specific comic run, having to do
with an older Superman doesn't make sense.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
And that's only good for one movie, not four.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
I think he had some more enemy and I'm skeptical
of this new vision, but James Gunn has some nerd creds,
so let's see what he comes up with. You'll probably
be wrong about that too negatory. It's Late with Mokelly.
We got your horoscope.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
When we come back, he as forty Life everywhere in
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Speaker 1 (28:02):
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Speaker 2 (28:07):
Six forty KFI mo Kelly, We're live everywhere on the
iHeartRadio App. It's time for your horoscope. And did you
know that cuffing season is here? And we're gonna let
you know how you can use astrology to spice up
your sex life.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Yes, let's get to it. What is cuffing season.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
It's the autumnal urge to enter into a more serious
or defined relationship in anticipation of a long winner to come.
Cuffing refers to the idea the commitment between two people
as akin to the pair of handcuffs themselves together, which
could be kinky or horrifying, depending on your interpretation. And
Cuffing season lasts from late fall to early spring, equinox
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to equinox. If you're paying attention, here we go aries
the cold Plunge, ruled by warmonger mars Aries. Folk like
their sex and their conflict hot and often, but it
turns out cold plunging paves the way to intensified intimacy.
If you're not ready to invest in a full plunge system,
you can ice down your bathtub as some kind of
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frigid foreplay.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Check that out.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Experts recommend couples hold hands, sink their breath, and stare
into each other's eyes while in the chill before warming
up and getting down with the dirty pumping uglies.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Taurus, I can't see this on a radio to walla,
Why do you hand this? I can't talk about doggy anything?
All right?
Speaker 5 (29:32):
That's Taurus. That's that's that's the stop.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Okay, seals. How far I can go? How deep with
this I can go? How deep as the fixed Earth sign?
Get your mind out of the gutter?
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Taurus.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Folk are inclined towards intimacy that feels like wild abandoned
with minimal effort. There's no one right way to do it.
As long as the giver. You gotta be careful. That
gotta be very very gre horse, you know. Just think
of your favorite pooch and go from there. Gemini up close, Okay, I.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Can't read this. We gotta think called the FCC. I
can't why you give that?
Speaker 1 (30:11):
You know?
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Goodwell, I can't talk about different positions on the cuffing season.
It is cuffing season, but you know, reverse count never mind?
Speaker 3 (30:20):
What never mind?
Speaker 6 (30:22):
As a Gemini, I require you to read my horoscope.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
I can't. I can't.
Speaker 6 (30:27):
Well, you can talk around it, you can use euphemisms.
I'll help you out.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
No, we're just gonna go give me, give me. Yeah,
we're gonna do a different horse school like that. We're
gonna change gears. Okay, here's the weekly horoscope from Parade Magazine.
What we were on Gemini, It's gonna go from one
extreme to the other. Gemini seeks meaningful dialogue this week.
They want to skip the small talk and dive in
the philosophical discussion topics. Their intensity may scare off some, However,
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their approach will intellectually inspire those willing to dive deep.
Now you can make your own you know, sexual innuendo
out of that if you like.
Speaker 6 (31:04):
Oh no, it's a long way from where you started to
Parade Magazine. Cancer here Goo Stefan. Cancer is taking intimacy seriously.
This week, Pluto enters their Transformation sector, highlighting the themes
of interdependence. To spiritually evolve, they must lean on others
and allow others to lean on them. There's no growth
in going it alone any longer, so find yourself a woman.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
So they call that the transformation sector in cancer world.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
What are you trying to say, twelve No, I mean
they're entering the transformation sector. Leo this week challenges Leo
to wear their heart on their sleeve. The cool guy
act is up. They must let love in to grow
and show how much they care deep down. Being vulnerable
allows others to showcase their genuine commitment and dedication to connection. Virgo,
(31:55):
y'all are taking an honest look at burnout this week,
as Pluto enters their Responsibility City sector.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
What is this like a grid? The Responsibility sector?
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Yes, these zoned like a city, working placesility, commercial of
their of their mind like you know how they compartmentalize
their thoughts and feelings and emotions.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
The responsibility sector must come.
Speaker 7 (32:22):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
That sounds way unsexy.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
But as Pluto enters their Responsibility sector, it must change
their approach to to do lists, agendas, and workload. They
are only one person. Their productivity will be redefined. Libra,
there's inspiration to connect with. This week, Pluto enters their
romantic sector, making their innermost desires undeniable. Spiritual evolution comes
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from allowing themselves to want who and what they desire.
Giving in and prioritizing their happiness is vital. Scorpio. Twala
has a birthday coming up, Scorpio.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
This week is major as Pluto enter Aquarius. Scorpio, which
is ruled by Pluto, is deeply impacted. Their psychological sector
is hit, pushing them to address their inner well being.
To progress, they must tend to their roots and home life, Sagittarius.
That's me well, We Sagittarians are feeling inspired to make
shifts in our social lives this week. As Pluto enters
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our intellectual sector, we can no longer deny our souls needs.
What we genuinely think and feel must be honored to
sustain friendships and connections. Capricorn, this week brings relief to you.
Pluto exits their sign, entering Aquarius. While change will still
be necessary regarding their practical outlooks and actions, They've been
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waiting for this moment. With all of their recent lessons completed,
Capricorn is ready to evolve and choose themselves. And lastly
or semi lastly is Aquarius. This week is major for
Aquarians as Pluto enters their sign, the planet of transformation,
will push them to con front the blockages of being
authentic to themselves.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
It's not like constipation. Their path is ripe with potential.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
However, they must take agency and responsibility and lastly, Pisces.
This week Pluto enters Pisces subconscious sphere of influence. It's
time for them to come to terms with their hidden
emotions and briefs. To spiritually evolve, they will need to
examine what has been repressed.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
None of that makes any sense. I don't know what
any of that means.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
I can just tell you that Scorpio's cuffing season with
definitely don't do it. Cut off the don't do it? Lord,
have mercy. I will try this, though.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Well you're gonna do like take pictures and post it
on the internet.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
No no, no, no, you go to jail for posting
something like ooh ooh, at least not without a parental
guidance warning. This is, this is, this is. Why would
you ever?
Speaker 6 (34:55):
Can?
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Never mind? I don't want to ask anymore. I don't
want to know anymore. I don't want to know.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Blindfolded okay, yeah, oh blindfolded. Yeah, that's never mind, can't.
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as customary, Jackie Ray joins me on this Monday evening.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Good evening, Jackie Ray, good evening, Good to see you.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
We had talked about how the show Inside the NBA,
which was on TNT, featured Ernie Johnson Jr. Charles Barkley,
Kenny Smith, Shaquille O'Neill. I said something to the effect
that it was the best sports show absolutely on television,
bar none. Nothing else is close. And I said that
against the backdrop of this bidding war for NBA television rights.
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T and T had a portion of it, ESPN, Slash,
ABC had a portion of it, and I know that
NBC was in the running for it. We do know
that T and T will not have the rights for
it anymore. So the question was what was going to
happen to this gold standard show in the next few years.
What we do know at least next year, Inside the
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NBA will appear on ESPN and ABC next year. It
makes perfect sense to me. You have a hit show,
I mean, a tremendous show, and in fact, it'll probably
get more exposure on ESPN and ABC together than T
and T because unless you're like a died in the
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wool NBA fan, you're not watching T and T. They
don't have as many games as ESPN and ABC, and
also T and T they don't get to carry the finals,
so you'll get to see inside the NBA on at
least those two networks. I don't know if you felt
this idea, but I think finally they made the easy
decision right in front of them.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
I thought this was the way to go from the jump.
I'm a little surprised that it took this long. And
the reason for that is I know a lot of
novice basketball fans. To your point, they don't really watch.
No one really watches CNT for the game. Like if
you're one of those people who are just scouring, you know,
because you don't want to pay for whatever service that
you can watch the Lakers and all that good stuff,
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you might watch. But for the most part, people aren't
tuning into TNT on a regular basis because it's just
like you said, doesn't carry enough games. But I literally
have a friend who is not really a basketball fan,
but loves to watch TNT because she lives for this show.
She couldn't tell you what Lebron James's number is. She
barely knows who Bronni is, but she loves she loves
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the chemistry of this team because they're funny, they're quirky,
they make halftime fun and they're common. And so you
don't you don't want to lose that, especially right now
when the NBA is losing viewership. You don't want to
lose such a great sports show that is bringing in fans.
So this was a common sense move for me. I'm
I'm glad they finally got this done.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
And I say they because the NBA, I'm quite sure
how to say in this, as well as the networks
had to say in this to your point, I know
people me included, I don't even care who was playing
in the game. I just want to see their show
inside the NBA. And if you don't know the dynamics
between Charles Barkley, we've played some of the audio before
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Charles Barkley and Shack are Kenny run for the Kenny
Smith with his knock knees and running through the big
screen and he'll fall over or something there are some
really really funny unscripted moments, and I know people were
enjoying the NBA more just because of this show. And
far too often you find a network television, even cable television,
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they will cancel these shows and not understand the impact
of these shows. For once they've gotten it right now,
I don't think it's going to change the field, even
though it will be in a different studio.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
But no, it's not going to change the field. This
is all about them.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
You you you live for Ernie's face of just I
don't he sometimes he has this confusion discussed, but he like, yeah,
his expressions are great. The chemistry that they have built
up and the banter between them, it doesn't matter. They
could literally be in one of those five thousand dollars
backyards and it's still going to be a great show.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
And to your point, once again, it's those four.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Now they may sub in some people on some occasions,
like Chris Webber and others, it's not the same.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
It's not Kennis Parker's done it a few times.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah, no disrespect. It doesn't have the same type of chemistry. Now,
I wonder why this show has not grown beyond the
show in the way that you have a Shannon Sharp
and he would do stuff for not only his podcast,
but it'll have nightcap with Chad o Cho Senko. I'm
surprised these four haven't done something similar, given that they
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spend enough time together, they could probably do a podcast
and monetize that in a way that these other sports
figures have.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
I would imagine one of the key points in that
is probably Shack because he does everything. He invests, he
owns businesses, he's running around. He just did another rap song,
you know, so he's out there doing several different things.
And then you know Kenny. I don't know Kenny. He's
probably got.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Other stuff they have going on, but it seems like
it would be low hanging fruit yea, and an easy
thing to do, especially in this podcast world, the social
media world, where you could look put it this way.
I talk about this because I would love to hear
Charles Barkley unscripted in an environment where he can say
absolutely everything he wants. And I've seen it in person,
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but you don't get to see it long form in
a video medium.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
I would love to see that.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
I would love to see Shaquille O'Neill doing the same thing.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Well, doesn't Charles and Ernie have like an offshoot pocket.
It's not as good though. It's kind of dry compared
to right.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
It's kind of dry and it's kind of tanged, but
when they're all together, it's never tanged.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
But this might be the catalyst that makes that happen.
Because ESPN a lot of their programming. The numbers are declining,
so now maybe they can figure out a way to
make this work. All of them are familiar with the
ESPN platform, so it's not a huge leap. So maybe
this is how we get that to happen.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Well, I'm gonna try not to be greedy, but I
am glad that they're keeping inside the NBA is a
part of the NBA. It definitely wasn't broke. You didn't
need to fix it. Just keep it as is. People
will find it and it will increase viewership for all involved.
But speaking of viewership, when we come back, we have
to talk about that thing which happened Friday night on Netflix,
(06:29):
which was supposedly some sort of boxing match.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
And I have a real question for you.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Since people are betting on it, people believe that it
is legitimate competition. I don't believe it is, and I
am by no means a conspiracy theorists, but I don't
think this is legitimate competition, and I would love to
get your thoughts on that. On the other side, I
haven't it Later with Mo Kelly, Jackie Ray joins me
in studio. Okay, if I AM six forty live everywhere
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Speaker 1 (06:56):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 4 (07:02):
Now.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
I don't know where you were, but maybe you were
one of the sixty million people who tuned in to
see that WWE match between and I say WWE because
Jake Paul is connected to the WWE. He is say
personality for WWE that event on Friday between Jake Paul
and Mike Tyson. I have been a boxing fan all
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my life. I've been a Mike Tyson fan since he
came on the scene, and he won the World Heavyweight Championship,
Lineal Heavyweight Championship back when he was twenty he is
now fifty eight.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
He had no business being in the ring.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
And I said from the very beginning, I didn't want
to remember him that way, and I thought that if
he were to win, he'd have to beat Jake Paul
within the first two rounds. Yep, it was not going
to happen after that. Look, I don't care what type
of shape you're in. You know, Father Time is undefeated
for a reason, and this is coming on the heels up.
(08:01):
Excuse me, this is coming on the heels of Evander
Holyfield getting the breaks beat off him by Vietor Belfort,
who was forty four and a non boxer. There was
no way this is going to end well for Mike Tyson, right.
But here is what really bothers me. We're told that
this is legitimate competition, and yet it's not a sanctioned fight.
(08:25):
They had eight rounds, two minutes each. They had fourteen
ounce gloves instead of ten, which is nice. It's a
little more padding. I didn't want anyone to die in
the ring. But am I the only one who thinks
that this is not legitimate competition and there's not some
level of scripting to this?
Speaker 3 (08:44):
It would be impossible.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
I think that the only people who would think there's
any kind of credence to this and that it's a
real in any way are people who know nothing about boxing,
because that's just not what when you're talking about boxers
in their prime, they after they win in a match,
they always call out the next guy, the guy that
has proven himself in the ring, and the person that
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is the end all be all, the person that's difficult
to beat, because that's how you continue to level up
in the sport. UFC is the same way. You want
to beat the person that nobody can beat. You don't
want to beat the guy that's thirty years older than you.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Excuse me, excuse me, thirty one.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Oh, it's my bad, thirty one and definitely got his
AARP card. You don't want to do that, that's no shade.
I'm looking forward to my AARP discounts. They will come
in one day. But my point is Jake doesn't take
it seriously, so how as we can. There's no real
boxing fan that will take it seriously. And look, I
get it. If Jake doesn't want to come up through
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the ranks, if he doesn't want to do the fight
where he has to fight, you know, go through the trenches,
fight the no names, get those big wins and to
finally get on a real ticket. There's still ways to
do it. Now you've establish this yourself as this person
who can get people paid. There are a ton of
boxers right now who have put in the work that
you could put in that ring to prove if you
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really have any kind of boxing legitimacy. But when you're
boxing a guy who is well past his prime and
has had a plethora of issues since then, and it's
just not legitimate. And I don't think Jake personally takes
it legitimately. I think that he presents it that way
for the financial gain, but there's no way that this
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is a legitimate situation.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
I don't fault the business model.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
If you can get sixty million people to watch or
on other instances, pay to see you stand in the
ring with basketball players or washed up MMA folks. For
you to be able to do that and parlay that
into a multi I would say of eight figure deal
(10:52):
with WWE, you're.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Doing something right.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
As an entertainer and performer, I do not begrudge him right,
but as a fan of sport and actual competition, I
hate it because it's neither.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Now.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Last I heard, he's trying to call out Canelo Alvarez
come on, and he would outweigh him by a good
sixty pounds.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
He might as well call out Jackie Ray.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
At this point, I saw the themes where he was
calling out Muhammad Ali. You know, it's just it, that's
the thing with you're mocking the sport. You're not actually
trying to be a serious entrant in the sport. Fight
a real boxer who is this side of forty five
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a real boxer, And it may not give the type
of pay per view, or it may because people be curious,
can this guy actually fight? I don't think Tommy Fury,
who beat Jake Paul, has fought since that.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Fight, right, And I just again, you know, he presents
himself like he's a boxer, Like he goes in and
he puts in the work and he does all of
these things. Okay, well then you still have to prove
yourself in on the boxing stage. Look, I live in
Long Beach. There's a gym down the street from my house.
I would love to broker a fight between you and
one person in that gym that no one has ever
(12:07):
heard of. I guarantee you the outcome is different. And
then that point, I feel like more people will be like, oh, well,
that's he's not a real boxer. Then all of a sudden,
people will accept the truth about the situation. But right
now people want to accept this fallacy because he's fighting
people way past their prime. Anywhere any other situation we
would call Jake Paul a bully, we would call a
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bully and a fraud. And I just again, I'm with you.
I'm not hating his business model. I read that prior
to this fight, Mike Tyson's networks was like ten million.
I think it's at least double that, so it's a
win win for everyone. But at the same time, I
just don't I didn't watch it because I just don't
enjoy it.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
I really enjoy the sport of boxing.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
I enjoy seeing people play defense and understand what their
opponent is doing and really have this cadence and this
song and dance that they're doing in the ring.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
So I'm never going to watch Jake Paul. I would
never pay for Jake Paul.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
But since it was included in my subscription on Netflix,
and it was one of those things that we call
a talker, people were talking about it.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
To his benefit, he gets people talking. I watched it.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
I was in the hotel bar watching it on my
phone via my Netflix subscription, and it was it was bad.
It was a bad product, it was a bad fight.
It was not entertaining, it was not enjoyable, it was
not exciting.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
And I'm not an MMA fan.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
I'm not a fan of that sport because I like
to see more technical.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Skill than what vitality.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Yeah, then just straight throughtality and I'm like you and
I'm into the sweet science. I can't find a good
boxing match more because boxing is so messed up as
a sport. They can't get the different organizations together and
stage the fights that we want to see like they
did in the nineteen eighties. You'll never see another time
in which you have a Sugar Ray Leonard fight everyone
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in his weight class who was the best of the
time multiple times, fighting Roberto Duran twice, or Tommy Hearns
three times, Marvin Hagler, will Frado Benitez.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
You'll never have that again.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
And to Dana White's credit, the best in MMA fight
the best in MMA. To his detriment, his fighters are
getting robbed. They're not getting out anything.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
And that was the whole That's what gave birth to
Jake Paul because that is how he started. He said, Hey,
if you want to get paid, come over here Now.
When he initially said that, I was like, I can't
in good conscious see these people get beat like this
for peanuts.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
So yeah, do your thing, Jake Paul.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
But now he's become, in my opinion, a detriment to
the sport because now he is really kind of taking
a taken away to the nuances and the training and
the commitment.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
And that's what people don't get.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
There's a commitment that you have to have to be
great at this day in and day out. And so
it's it's I wish we could find middle ground because
he's not wrong in that Dana White is out here
robbing people.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
I could accept exhibitions. Mike Tyson, Roy Jones Junior was
an exhibition, okay, and it looked like we thought it would, right,
but it still was a boxing match. This is a
circus now. This is like you're looking. You're watching to
see you the bearded lady. You're looking for the guy
(15:21):
with three appendages or something. You're not looking for an
actual sporting competition. And that's why I do begrudge Jake
Paul what he's done to what I love about boxing. Now,
let me just ask you this before we get out
of here from a societal standpoint, we can't appreciate his
business strategy. We can appreciate him calling out Dana White,
(15:43):
which he has done, But is there any real negative
effect beyond boxing as what we want boxing to be?
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Is there anything wrong with this?
Speaker 4 (15:54):
I mean, I think it's just a narrative in our
society as a whole. You know, people think that they
can just kind of skate by on certain things without
putting in the actual work. And I think we've seen
that across the board. I think one of the reasons
people don't have as a journalist, I've seen this, People
don't have the same faith and journalists anymore is because
people grab a mic and they head out to the
street and all of a sudden they feel like they're
(16:15):
a journalist.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Or they start a blog.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
They start a blog. Yeah, And so I think that's
it's part of our society. It's literally the dumbing down
of our society. And people think that just because they
want to do something, the training and the dedication and
the commitment and the passion is irrelevant.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
And so it's it's a problematic across the board.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
You are so right, because I can't tell you how
many times people will approach me mm hmm, and either
they may not like me or they don't know the
dedication to the craft which is required and say I.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Can do what you do now you can?
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Well, I tell them the same thing every single time.
I can give you the email of my program director,
or you can send your air check to me and
I will send it to them.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
I'm not a hater. If you can do it better
than me, I'll applaud you and I will show you
a way to get there.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
But more times than not, they just want to talk
stuff because they don't understand what is actually required in
what we do. And I think you're spot on with that,
and that's maybe the larger issue, because you have someone
who wants to be taken seriously as a boxer, but
doesn't want to have actual.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Fights exactly, doesn't want to put in the work. It's terrible.
Can I shout out somebody before I guess? So you know,
I've been doing the moll Kelly Show for a while now,
and I came to the Halloween party as a lot
of you know, and so I met a woman named
Jamika lud and she actually came to my birthday party.
Might well part two of my birthday party last night
(17:44):
and made me the most amazing tote bag that says
the Jackie Ray Show on it, and I just wanted
to shout her out.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Did you put it on social media?
Speaker 4 (17:51):
I will take a picture and I'll put it on
social media. But you know what, you can see both
of those on my podcast because I'm gonna wear She
also got me a shirt that has my slogan on
which is I Cover People. So I will be wearing
that and I will show you the tote So make
sure you check out the Jackie Ray Show on Tuesday.
But also if you happen to be in Lancaster. She
has a grooming company called four Pause Grooming paw S
(18:14):
paw S. Yes, So thank you for being not even
just a fan but has become a friend and gave
me my favorite birthday president.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Well, we're coming up on Small Business Saturday, so why
don't we just go ahead and.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Start that early. Yeah, let's do that. Jack Ray is
always good to see you too.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Forty and the number one movie this past weekend. Not surprised,
but it was a very soft number one. It was
Red one, the movie starring Dwayne the Rock Johnson and
Chris Evans. They have to save Santa Claus, who had
been kidnapped.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
I've seen the trailers.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
I have no desire to see this movie, even though
I'm a fan of Dwayne Johnson and Chris Evan. The
whole idea of this movie just seems Netflix written all
over it. It seems like it could have been perfect
for streaming over the holidays, not that I would actually
go to the theater to see it. And I say that,
and I say Netflix because Chris Evans has done a
(19:16):
lot of stuff on Netflix. Dwayne Johnson has done a
lot of stuff on Netflix. Why this garnered a theatrical release,
I'm just not sure.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
But it came in at number one.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
It did thirty two million domestically, did fifty one internationally,
for a total of eighty three million dollars.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
Which is light for the Rock, Yes, that's light, and
Chris Evans.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
That's light. Oh, I'll tell you how light it is.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Can you imagine that this movie's budget was two hundred
and fifty million dollars, your kid, that's like Avengers in
game level budget, two hundred and fifty million, and it
doesn't have the type of marketing campaign that any Avengers
this movie would have two hundred There's no way in
(20:02):
the world that you could have told me that this
movie was ever going to break evening even. It's impossible
for this movie, even if it had one hundred and
twenty five million this first weekend, which was not still
was not going to break even. Two hundred and fifty
million about a movie that's you know, you're trying to
(20:22):
save SATA.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
I actually thought that this was going to be released
on Netflix. I didn't know it was coming to theaters,
and so I missed the opportunity to get tickets because, yeah,
I'm interested in seeing it, but I'm thinking this has
to be one of those things that Netflix put it
out so it can be like in contention for for
(20:45):
a Razzie, not for an award. That's this an award.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Razzie is a war.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
No.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
I heard it wasn't that bad though.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Okay, let's say it's not that bad.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
It's just not a movie which is probably going to
have the type of support which justifies the two hundred
and fifty million dollar price tag. And I don't know
Dwayne Johnson is a leading man. I'll give him that,
but I don't know if he can carry a blockbuster
(21:16):
this size. We saw what he did with Black Adam
and that wasn't bad. I didn't dislike that, but that
also was dislike it. I did not dislike it, but
my point was was yours Twalla where comparable budget.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
It did not make the money that they would have hoped.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
And just adding Chris Evans, who I think is a
fine actor, but I don't know if he can move
the meter by himself or as a part of a
you know, a tandem, a buddy cop.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
You know.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
The rock has now a history of big budget releases
that he has been the lead in that have failed
to move the needle at the box office. Because also
that Jungle Crew, which I know it co starred what's
her name, uh Krazanski's wife Emily Blunt, Emily Blunt, but
(22:07):
that film was a big disappointment at the box office.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
It helps that these big movies are still being shown
in theaters, but if they don't perform, well, it's not
going to do a lot for theaters. And I mentioned
that because it was released in more than four thousand theaters,
mean that it's a very wide release. You can get
as many as maybe forty four hundred and forty five
hundred theaters, so it is out there. It's per screen
(22:36):
average is just not all that impressive. And it's not
gonna do any better next week, just because we're a
week closer to Christmas or something. If if you can't
bring it in this first week, it's not like it's
gonna you know, they're gonna bring it in week two.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
I'm gonna buy a ticket sport, even if I can't
see it. I support the Rock. Yeah, I'm just gonna
support him on streaming, that's all.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
He needs your money, jiujuala, give till it hurts. Here's
something else coming in.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Second is Venom The Last Dance, and we all know
by just about every measure it's a horrible movie. But
it's grossed four hundred and thirty six million dollars worldwide.
It is making money for Sony. That means there's got
to be like Venom the After Party, the Diddy Party
or something. If this is the Last Dance, there has
(23:26):
to be another Venom. Why Because it is a money maker.
As much as I hate to say that, how many
other movies made close to a half a billion dollars
this year, a handful Deadpool, Wolverine.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Inside Out to not many.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
So anytime a studio can point to a movie, damn sure,
Red One is not gonna make a half a billion.
So Venom the Last Dance obviously is turning a profit
and has been profitable for Sony Pictures.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
It is a hit by all standards, especially when you
consider nothing is coming out next week or the week
after or the week after that that is going to
take this film out of the top five, which mean
you have to.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Be number one, right, which means theaters are not going
to be as aggressive in dropping it because they need
something to put in its place. And if this movie
is still doing business, there's no need to move it.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
I mean, you keep it where it is.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
And let me just amend what I was saying before
I said that people were tired of bad superhero movies.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
It's not the genre itself.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Here's an example of a bad superhero movie and it's
still doing better than ninety five percent of the other
movies from other genres.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
I don't know what to say. Yeah, for all the people.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Who are supposedly tired of the genre, well y'all are
going to see Venom. Y'all went to see Deadpool and Wolverine.
It's what people are actually going to see. So for
all the criticisms, the actions are not meeting the criticism.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Now, what were you going to say about Dwayne Johnson, Mark?
Speaker 6 (25:05):
I hadn't planned on saying anything, but I'm glad to
know you're the one person on earth who liked Black Adham.
I could barely make it through that. I really two people.
It was a cowpie. You're both overruled. No, no, No, Steamer, Steamer.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
I actually wanted to see a sequel to that with
Henry Cavell, more so than anything named Shazam.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
I'll watch Henry cavill as Superman any day. I think
it was the worst decision DC's made to get rid
of him and Superman. He was a really good Superman
in some mediocre movies.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
But I understand why they did because he's going to
age out of the role long term. If you're trying
to have a franchise going forward, it wasn't going to
be with Henry Cavell because he just wouldn't fit the role.
Speaker 6 (25:47):
Oh, he had a few more years left. Look at
how old George Reeves looked and he is the.
Speaker 7 (25:53):
Archetype trying to dig George Reeves up out of his grave. There,
both of you leave George Reeves alone, taking a douce
on George Reeves like that?
Speaker 2 (26:04):
How dare you saying for Adam West is going to
be the next Batman?
Speaker 6 (26:08):
I'll get right out of this booth and kill both
of you on the spot.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
How mean?
Speaker 6 (26:13):
Like?
Speaker 3 (26:14):
How did George Reeves can fit but Adam West wouldn't fit?
Adam West was magnificent. He was. He's easily one of
the best batman.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Okay, so let's cast him alongside Colin Ferrell.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
What's the point of this, would you say? George Reeves?
Speaker 6 (26:31):
He was a great superman if you probably haven't even
seen any of those shows, have you?
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Yes? I have.
Speaker 6 (26:35):
They've heard magnificent, which is a round back of the day. Well,
they were before as old as you are. Those shows
are before both our times. But there's no but they
were on TV all the time. They're great shows. With
him laying on the table, you got.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
It, jumping out the window onto a mattress.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
Yes, it was a midday filler when you were ditching school.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Yes, Mark, you couldn't avoid them.
Speaker 6 (26:56):
I want both of you to know that I forgive
you for your found in offensive ignorance. Watch that episode
of the George Reefs Superman where he takes the blind
girl flying, and if you still aren't on board, are.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
You buried both alive?
Speaker 6 (27:10):
Are you really trying to fight for a George Yes survival? Absolutely,
even more so than for Kung George Reeves in a
Zack Snyder movie.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
How about that? Is that what you're gunning for, James
gun I'm not gonna know. There's dapples and oranges different,
but that's the whole point. That's why we're saying that
Henry Cavill.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
They had to move on from Henry Cavill because it
didn't fit the vision of James gun And also, a
fifty year old Superman in a contemporary movie sense, unless
you're talking about a specific comic run, having to do
with an older Superman doesn't make sense.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
And that's only good for one movie, not four.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
I think he had some more enemy and I'm skeptical
of this new vision, but James Gunn has some nerd creds,
so let's see what he comes up with. You'll probably
be wrong about that too negatory. It's Late with Mokelly.
We got your horoscope.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
When we come back, he as forty Life everywhere in
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Speaker 1 (28:02):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Six forty KFI mo Kelly, We're live everywhere on the
iHeartRadio App. It's time for your horoscope. And did you
know that cuffing season is here? And we're gonna let
you know how you can use astrology to spice up
your sex life.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Yes, let's get to it. What is cuffing season.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
It's the autumnal urge to enter into a more serious
or defined relationship in anticipation of a long winner to come.
Cuffing refers to the idea the commitment between two people
as akin to the pair of handcuffs themselves together, which
could be kinky or horrifying, depending on your interpretation. And
Cuffing season lasts from late fall to early spring, equinox
(28:48):
to equinox. If you're paying attention, here we go aries
the cold Plunge, ruled by warmonger mars Aries. Folk like
their sex and their conflict hot and often, but it
turns out cold plunging paves the way to intensified intimacy.
If you're not ready to invest in a full plunge system,
you can ice down your bathtub as some kind of
(29:10):
frigid foreplay.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Check that out.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Experts recommend couples hold hands, sink their breath, and stare
into each other's eyes while in the chill before warming
up and getting down with the dirty pumping uglies.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Taurus, I can't see this on a radio to walla,
Why do you hand this? I can't talk about doggy anything?
All right?
Speaker 5 (29:32):
That's Taurus. That's that's that's the stop.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Okay, seals. How far I can go? How deep with
this I can go? How deep as the fixed Earth sign?
Get your mind out of the gutter?
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Taurus.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Folk are inclined towards intimacy that feels like wild abandoned
with minimal effort. There's no one right way to do it.
As long as the giver. You gotta be careful. That
gotta be very very gre horse, you know. Just think
of your favorite pooch and go from there. Gemini up close, Okay, I.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Can't read this. We gotta think called the FCC. I
can't why you give that?
Speaker 1 (30:11):
You know?
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Goodwell, I can't talk about different positions on the cuffing season.
It is cuffing season, but you know, reverse count never mind?
Speaker 3 (30:20):
What never mind?
Speaker 6 (30:22):
As a Gemini, I require you to read my horoscope.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
I can't. I can't.
Speaker 6 (30:27):
Well, you can talk around it, you can use euphemisms.
I'll help you out.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
No, we're just gonna go give me, give me. Yeah,
we're gonna do a different horse school like that. We're
gonna change gears. Okay, here's the weekly horoscope from Parade Magazine.
What we were on Gemini, It's gonna go from one
extreme to the other. Gemini seeks meaningful dialogue this week.
They want to skip the small talk and dive in
the philosophical discussion topics. Their intensity may scare off some, However,
(30:56):
their approach will intellectually inspire those willing to dive deep.
Now you can make your own you know, sexual innuendo
out of that if you like.
Speaker 6 (31:04):
Oh no, it's a long way from where you started to
Parade Magazine. Cancer here Goo Stefan. Cancer is taking intimacy seriously.
This week, Pluto enters their Transformation sector, highlighting the themes
of interdependence. To spiritually evolve, they must lean on others
and allow others to lean on them. There's no growth
in going it alone any longer, so find yourself a woman.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
So they call that the transformation sector in cancer world.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
What are you trying to say, twelve No, I mean
they're entering the transformation sector. Leo this week challenges Leo
to wear their heart on their sleeve. The cool guy
act is up. They must let love in to grow
and show how much they care deep down. Being vulnerable
allows others to showcase their genuine commitment and dedication to connection. Virgo,
(31:55):
y'all are taking an honest look at burnout this week,
as Pluto enters their Responsibility City sector.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
What is this like a grid? The Responsibility sector?
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Yes, these zoned like a city, working placesility, commercial of
their of their mind like you know how they compartmentalize
their thoughts and feelings and emotions.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
The responsibility sector must come.
Speaker 7 (32:22):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
That sounds way unsexy.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
But as Pluto enters their Responsibility sector, it must change
their approach to to do lists, agendas, and workload. They
are only one person. Their productivity will be redefined. Libra,
there's inspiration to connect with. This week, Pluto enters their
romantic sector, making their innermost desires undeniable. Spiritual evolution comes
(32:45):
from allowing themselves to want who and what they desire.
Giving in and prioritizing their happiness is vital. Scorpio. Twala
has a birthday coming up, Scorpio.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
This week is major as Pluto enter Aquarius. Scorpio, which
is ruled by Pluto, is deeply impacted. Their psychological sector
is hit, pushing them to address their inner well being.
To progress, they must tend to their roots and home life, Sagittarius.
That's me well, We Sagittarians are feeling inspired to make
shifts in our social lives this week. As Pluto enters
(33:21):
our intellectual sector, we can no longer deny our souls needs.
What we genuinely think and feel must be honored to
sustain friendships and connections. Capricorn, this week brings relief to you.
Pluto exits their sign, entering Aquarius. While change will still
be necessary regarding their practical outlooks and actions, They've been
(33:42):
waiting for this moment. With all of their recent lessons completed,
Capricorn is ready to evolve and choose themselves. And lastly
or semi lastly is Aquarius. This week is major for
Aquarians as Pluto enters their sign, the planet of transformation,
will push them to con front the blockages of being
authentic to themselves.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
It's not like constipation. Their path is ripe with potential.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
However, they must take agency and responsibility and lastly, Pisces.
This week Pluto enters Pisces subconscious sphere of influence. It's
time for them to come to terms with their hidden
emotions and briefs. To spiritually evolve, they will need to
examine what has been repressed.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
None of that makes any sense. I don't know what
any of that means.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
I can just tell you that Scorpio's cuffing season with
definitely don't do it. Cut off the don't do it? Lord,
have mercy. I will try this, though.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Well you're gonna do like take pictures and post it
on the internet.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
No no, no, no, you go to jail for posting
something like ooh ooh, at least not without a parental
guidance warning. This is, this is, this is. Why would
you ever?
Speaker 6 (34:55):
Can?
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Never mind? I don't want to ask anymore. I don't
want to know anymore. I don't want to know.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Blindfolded okay, yeah, oh blindfolded. Yeah, that's never mind, can't.
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the idiots around you.
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