Breaking News Coverage of the UCLA Encampment Protests (HOUR 3)

ICYMI: Hour Three of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – Breaking News Coverage of the UCLA Encampment Protests, with live reports from KFI Reporters Kris Adler & Michael Monks; as well as in-depth commentary from KFI News Editor Erin Ben-Moche & regular guest contributor Tiffany Hobbs - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app

Episode Transcript

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You're listening to Later with mo Kellyon demand from KFI AM six forty.
It's Later with mo Kelly Live everywhereon the iHeartRadio app. And we are
keeping it right here. We're goingto make sure that you're not going to
miss anything with respect to UCLA USCor any of the other Southern California campuses.

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As by now, you probably knowthat there has been a dispersal order
which has been given for those whoare in the encampment on UCLA's campus.
Whereas USC has been relatively quiet andit's been a much more controlled situation,

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UCLA is far more uncertain. Andbecause of that, we're going to keep
it right here on this story andsee what may transpire on that campus.
LAPD has a huge presence, myword, on the campus, as well
as CHP Beverly Hills Police Department,Santa Monica Police Department, and the La

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County Sheriff's Department. With that orderof dispersal, and from what I've seen
from television reports, I think itis fair to assume that that show of
force is going to be for thepurpose of clearing out that encampment. I
think they're going to follow through onthat dispersal order. They have not as

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of yet moved forward. But hereare some things that I think we can
assume and also glean from what mayhappen on UCLA's campus tonight. And I'm
looking at UCLA through the lens ofwhat has already happened in regard to police
response on Columbia's campus. In NYPD, there has been a decision made within

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these relative and respective police departments thatthese pro tests encampments must come to an
end. They have progressed to apoint of violence and vandalism which cannot be
tolerated anymore. It has hit apoint of lawlessness that cannot be allowed to

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continue. So we saw what happenedin Colombia at Columbia, and we're waiting
to see what will happen at UCLA. And remember, I thought there was
a trajectory, a path, apattern that the schools on the West Coast
were following relative to the East Coast. I expect LAPD to move in at

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some point tonight, and moving inand clearing out this encampment at UCLA serves
two purposes. And I don't haveany inside information. I'm just saying I
think it's reasonable to assume from whatwe know LAPD moving in and when I
say LAPD, that's inclusive of CHPand the other law enforcement agencies on side
of UCLA. But law enforcement movingin and clearing out the end that encampment

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at UCLA not only sends a messageto the UCLA campus, but it sends
a message to the other Southern Californiacampuses which are on a smaller level dealing
with this as well. And justin case you didn't know, I know
it had been mentioned in the CAFItwenty four newsroom, but I want to
reiterate that pro Palestinian protesters, whoare also demanding divestment from Israel and an

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end to the country's military actions andGaza, that's the common thread, that's
the common through line. They haveset up several new tent encampments at colleges
and universities all around southern and northernCalifornia. I'm talking about you see Irvine,
you see Riverside, Occidental College,cal Poly, Humboldt, San Francisco

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State, Sacramento State, and youcan best believe that those campuses, the
campuses in the sense of the officials, the university and college officials are watching
what is happening at UCLA, andthe students and student protesters are watching what
happens tonight at UCLA, and thatwill be very clear, at least from

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the law enforcement response what it plansto do moving forward. And also it
will send a message and signal tothe other campuses as far as if you
continue with these encampments, what likelywill happen. Because in the way that
the campuses, the students, theorganized protesters, the outsiders and agitators are

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all communicating, you can best believethey're all communicating as far as their tactics
and their plans. Law enforcement iscommunicating as well. Don't think that what's
happening at San Francisco State or SacramentoState or UC Irvine, UC Riverside is
happening in a vacuum and they're notalso watching from a law enforcement standpoint,

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what is being employed here in southernCalifornia. We know that at least twenty
five people were arrested early Tuesday atcal Poly Humble. We know that the
protesters that you see Irvine, they'vebeen saying to fellow students and also other
protesters outside of UC Irvine to holdthe line. So if the UCLA protesters

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are going to be in transigent andthey're going to remain in place. Then
law enforcement is going to do exactlywhat they did in New York with Columbia,
and these other universities are going totake their cues from UCLA and Colombia
in USC how to best handle thismoment, to bring order to the campus,

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to conduct commencement ceremonies, and alsoto ensure the safety of not only
the students, but professors and anybystanders who may be in the area,
because we are if we take USCas an example, that the surrounding area
around the university is also being involvedin these protests. We had Tiffany Hobbs

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on earlier she'll be joining us lateron. She was detailing how there was
an organized protest on some level whichwas marching down the street outside of USC.
Because many of these campuses USC included, they've locked down entrance and exit
to a large degree, They've madeit much more difficult for people who have

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no business being on campus, atleast in the case of USC, from
getting on campus. That's point numberone. That's the first thing that I
think these universities are going to haveto do to at least manage the situation.
You can't have anyone and everyone comingon the campus with all sorts of
agendas, with all sorts of possiblyweapons or other type of contraband, which

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could complicate issues we had on UCLA'scampus last night, slash early this morning,
fireworks and weapons on some level,those are the things that the various
campuses can do their part to helpcontrol that situation. But the takeaway is
what is happening right now at UCLA. All these campuses in southern California and

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northern California are watching, and dependingon how it's handled later on tonight will
give us a lot of insight asto what probably will happen on these other
campuses UC Irvine, UC Riverside,Occidental, Sacramento, State, San Francisco,
State, CalPoly, Humboldt. Andthat's just right now. I'm quite

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sure there will be other colleges anduniversities who will also join in on some
level. May not be as largea protest demonstration as we've seen at USC
or UCLA, but the same methods, the same methodology probably will be employed.
So what happens tonight at UCLA willhave a large effect on what happens

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everywhere in California. It's Later withmo Kelly. We're continuing to follow what
is going to happen at UCLA andUSC and other campuses. So keep it
right here at KFI AM six forty. We're not leaving the story, so
there's no reason for you to leaveKFI. You're listening to Later with Mo
Kelly on demand from KFI AM sixforty. Earlier in the program, Mark

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Ronner highlighted some things that from anews perspective, that we should remember,
and it kind of encouraged me togo further down this road talking about knowing
the history some of the similarities anddifferences to nineteen sixty eight as we talk
about these protests on UCLA's campus,USC's campuses, and also around southern California

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and the nation more broadly, thereare some similarities and differences to nineteen sixty
eight. But we should all bestudents of our own American history. Since
there's this great debate about how historyshould be taught. That means it requires
that we have to have a curiosityabout how this country came to be exactly

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where it is right now, andif you look at the protests today.
There are a lot of similarities tonineteen sixty eight. In nineteen sixty eight,
you did have these widespread college protestsaround the nation. They were with
respect to the Vietnam War. Obviously, there's not a war in a sense

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of US boots on the ground inthis case, but it had to do
with an international issue. That's onesimilarity. Another similarity it had to do
with This was a ground up protests. In other words, it grew out
of the college movement. It wasn'tnecessarily from the political class. It was

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most definitely the collegiate environments on campusesall around the country. There are other
similarities in the respect that the studentsof nineteen sixty eight were asking for the
federal government to divest, specifically divestfrom the war in Vietnam, divest as

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far as our Department of Defense financialsupport of the war, and bring obviously
the soldiers home. That's similar totoday in the sense that students today are
asking for well, let me justsay, some of the students and some
of the outside agitators are asking fordivestment with respect to Israel and the war

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in Gaza, something which is notsimilar but is worthy of noting is the
media coverage. If you're not oldenough to remember, and I am fairly
old enough to remember anything about Vietnam, but as a student of history,
it's worth noting back in nineteen sixtyeight there were only three networks. There

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was ABC, NBC, and CBS, and network coverage or programming only went
until ten thirty at night. Therewas not eleven o'clock news. If you
happen to be a gen xer,we know about the eleven o'clock news.
There was just the evening news,which is maybe five o'clock, six o'clock,
depending on the network, seven o'clock. That was it, and was

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only during the week, so America'sexposure to the protest was very, very
limited, but also very concentrated.That's how people got their news, and
obviously printed news the newspaper. Therewas not a twenty four hour news cycle.
Obviously there was no cable news.There weren't any people reporting on the

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ground who could use their own technologyto get their via their audio their message
out to the masters, excuse me, to the mass is. There was
only the three major networks and verytiny bits of coverage. And here's another
major distinction. Why nineteen sixty eightis not like twenty twenty four. In

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nineteen sixty eight, these college studentswere also dealing with, i would say,
the specter the shadow of the draft. And the draft ended in nineteen
seventy five, but before that,college students, by and large, unless
they had some sort of exemption,were drafted to fight for America in Vietnam.

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The college students of nineteen sixty eighthad a far more personal, invested
interest in what happened with Vietnam andtrying to bring about the end of the
war in Vietnam. These college studentstoday are not directly connected unless they should
have family members in Gaza or inIsrael or somehow connected directly to the Israel

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and Hamas war. But outside ofthat, it's not the same in that
regard. But there are a lotof similarities. And if you and again
a credit toe Mark Rounner for highlightingthis fact, if you look at the
history of protests from the civil rightsmovement, obviously there's overlap with the anti

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Vietnam War movement. Those movements wereled by and large by people in their
late teens and early twenties. Thathas always been the case going back to
even the suffrage movement, the abolitionistmovement always young people, idealistic, sometimes
many times misguided in their methods,even throughout history. But they were at

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the forefront of the movement. Butif you want to make those comparisons,
and I am leaning into those comparisonsright now, what is happening on college
campuses is not like previous movements,if only because there is really no cohesiveness
or central coordination or methodology which isgoing to help bring about their stated desired

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result. Part of the reason whythe civil rights movement of the late nineteen
fifties and early nineteen sixties was successfulwas that there was a coordinated message and
also strategy, not that everyone agreedwith it. There were many black people
African Americans who did not agree withdoctor Martin Luther King, Jr. And

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did not agree with the whole strategyof nonviolence, And people forget that when
he was assassinated, he was probablyat the lowest point of his popularity.
He was highly unpopular because he hadstarted to speak out against the Vietnam War.
But what made the civil rights movementsuccessful was that doctor King and others

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in his inner circle, they understoodthe moral authority and the visuals of violence
being perpetrated on black people, howthat would change hearts and minds with respect
to the Voting Rights Act and theCivil Rights Act, the Civil Rights Act
of nineteen sixty four, and theVoting Rights Tact of nineteen sixty five.

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And that's why nonviolence was so instrumentalin changing the overall perception of why civil
rights legislation had to be passed.Talk about the moral imperative. That's why
I am so critical and dismissive attimes of what later movements have tried to
employ because they did not take fromthe Civil rights movement. They didn't take

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any of the lessons learned from thesuccess of the Civil rights movement. They
just took the idea of protests,and I include Black lives matter in this.
They just have these willy nilly protestswith no real strategy, no real
direction, and no surprise, noreal success. There are parallels to nineteen
sixty eight, but unfortunately the protestersof today haven't learned the valuable lessons of

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nineteen sixty eight. It's later withmo Kelly Cafi AM six forty We're live
everywhere on the iHeartRadio app and we'recontinuing to monitor UCLA as LAPD and other
law enforcement agencies have a very pronouncedpresence. LAPD, as you've heard,
is already on a tactical alert.They've given an order to disperse for those

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in the encampment on UCLA's campus.From what we know when we last spoke
to Chris Adler, we'll speak toMichael Monks coming up shortly. We have
not heard any movement from the protestersin the sense of leaving the encampments,
trying to disperse from that encampment,So it looks like at some point LAPD

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will be left with no choice butto move in, and we will monitor
that and bring it to you asit happens. You're listening to Later with
Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AMsix forty, and we continue to follow
what is happening at UCLA right now, as LAPD is on a tactical alert.

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We know that LAPD has been joinedby other law enforcement agencies CHP Beverly
Hills Police Department, Santa Monica PD, and the Los Angeles Sheriff's Department.
To my knowledge, and right nowAaron Benmosch from the newsroom has an update
on UCLA. Hi, can youguys hear me? Yes, we can

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amazing Well, I just heard fromChris Adler. She says the school is
on lockdown so nobody can get inand out, which means Michael Monks and
Chris Aler are going to be givingus updates for a while. More police,
She's saying hundreds of police officers fromvarious law enforge enforcement agencies are around
campus. The Daily Bruin is sayingcounter protesters are kind of meeting the police

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wherever they seem to be. Theysaid that one anonymous source. They also
posted a picture you can see iton their Twitter that a student inside the
camp says in an interview that apolice officer in tactical tactical gear is on
the roof of Rice Hall. Soit doesn't seem like the protesters are going
anywhere, and it certainly doesn't seemlike police are going anywhere. Okay,

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from what you can tell in thesocial media, have they any idea how
police they are presenting themselves? Isit aggressive, more passive? Are they
moving forward to the encampment or theyjust staying in place? To the best
of your knowledge, they seem tojust be standing there I think now staffers

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as well as other students, andnow more masked and unidentifiable individuals are pouring
through as well. So now itjust seems like there's a big mix of
a lot of people in a lotof places throughout various points of the university.
But so far, nobody is doinganything. Protesters are still chanting and
cheering and staying within their space,and the number of police officers are just

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surrounding the area. That's great too. I don't want to read too much
into what you're telling me, butfrom what I understand, you are telling
me that UCLA's campus was not lockeddown until recently. Is that correct?
Yes, from what I understand andwhat Chris Adler told me, she was
on her way out to switch withMichael Monks or other reporter and she was

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told that she cannot leave, thatthe campus is on lockdown, and I
think just to contain the area andnobody out. See that's strange because we
know that law enforcement has had apronounced presence for the past four hours or
so and gave the dispersal order aroundfive o'clock or so. I'm not exactly

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sure, but in and around thattime, it just seems strange that they
would not cut off entrance into thecampus until the nine o'clock hour. That
just seems like you're inviting more ofa confrontation at that point because you give
the dispersal order, people are definingthe dispersal order, and yet we know
that people were still coming to thecampus, be it student, be it

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student, protester, be it outsideagitate, agitator, chaos agent's I know
this is not a question for youto answer, Aaron, but I'm just
wondering out loud why that order forthe lockdown wasn't also given simultaneously to lessen
the impact of people arriving on campus. For whatever reasons. Well, the

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university was also, whether officially ordifferent professors, they were being encouraged to
move remote. So tomorrow and Fridayclasses are online, I think in order
to de escalate the situation, andprofessors were telling students a week ago,
don't be on campus if you don'thave to be. And now the university
and their safety update, they evencanceled classes today and they moved things remote.

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So I'm not sure if they haven'treleased an official lockdown statement, but
Chris Hadler cannot leave, so there'sa lockdown of sort it maybe, but
again, if they haven't disseminated thatinformation, there's no reason to believe that
is actually happening. Tifferty Hobbs,I know you have some updates at UCLA
as well. I do. Andwhat I've noticed smoe online on Twitter,

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specifically slash x, is that multipleorganizations not affiliated with UCLA, including something
called the People's City Council, aswell as RevCom, which I spoke about
last week, which is a verywell known group of agitators. They both
of these groups and others have madean all call on their social media to

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the community at large, saying thingslike quote la get out here and defend.
RevCom specifically asked for Los Angeles toget to UCLA, and they're hashtagging
lots of different things, many ofwhich have nothing to do with Gaza or
Palestine or UCLA, but with theirgroup, with May Day, with Labor

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Day, with free speech, andthey're saying, come now to defend the
brave students. That was a tweetfrom RevCom just five hours ago, asking
their legions of followers to get toUCLA. That's high. I'm sorry,
I'm sorry, what type of followingdo they have, not necessarily online,
but if you can just estimate howmany people do you think they might be

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reaching A in an all call somethinglike this, Oh, oh, hundreds
of thousands. They're a very wellknown global group, quite honestly, and
their chapter here in Los Angeles iscomprised of thousands of members, many of
whom appear at protests as a career. Quite honestly, this is what they

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do. And I've had direct experiencewith them that has been quite volatile and
that has disrupted peaceful protests. Sothey're asking their followers to get out to
protect the students at UCLA, andI imagine that they are there. They
are there. They are quite quieton social media about this, but they
made that all call five hours agoas well as this other People's City Council

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group which asked for a call toaction saying all out to UCLA, saying
fulfill the demands of the encampment anddefend against UCLA complicity. So see,
issues are being conflated. There arelots of things that play ultimately resulting in
people outside of the university coming.And when you do that sort of all

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call, you don't know who willarrive. We don't know what the intentions
are and how far they're willing togo to obtain their goal. Well,
we do know somewhat. It doesmean escalation. That is the whole point.
You're not coming You're not asking peopleto come down and you know,
silently engage with law enforcement. You'recoming down to be a force, to
be a present presence, to bean agitator, to escalate, which is

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something that we don't want to happen. But if you're just tuning in,
we are giving you the latest asit relates to UCLA. There has been
an order to disperse which has beenin place for the past four hours or
so, maybe more than that,and LAPD has increased its presence since we've
been on the air at seven o'clock, and other law enforcement agencies have increased

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their presence, according to back channelcommunications with Chris Adler, who is stuck
on campus. From what I understand, also, CAFI reporter Michael Monks is
now in place on the campus atUCLA. Hey, mom, and when
we come back, Yes, goahead, Eric. I just got word
from Chris that it isn't informal lockdownput on by campus security, so it's

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not an official lockdown. Well,I don't know if that's going to work,
if it's only campus security wondering outloud in a situation like this,
but thank you for that. It'san informal lockdown. I don't know what
to make of that, Aaron ofbeing serious. It's like, you know,
I just once I got the confirmationand the clarity, I just wanted
to provide that. But no,But if anything, no, that's great

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information, because of anything, itmakes it explicit that it's not a formal
lockdown. People have been making theirway to the campus and on the campus,
and if it's only being enforced informallyby campus security. I've been to
UCLA's campus. It is massive.I don't know if you could actually plug

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all the holes as far as howpeople could get onto campus and if as
many people could be coming. Andit's not just pro Palestinian protesters anymore.
Now there's counterpro testers. Daily Bruinis now saying there's five counter protesters.
Now, I'm not sure what affiliationthat would be, whether they're students,

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whether they're pro Israel, I'm notreally sure. But it's definitely not just
oh Kkel showing Israeli flags being wavedas well, so there's there's a lot
of people out there now. Well, we're going to check in with kfi's
owned Michael Monks when we come backand get more of what's happening on the
ground on UCLA's campus when we comeback next you're listening to Later with Moe

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Kelly on demand from KFI AM sixforty. It's Later with Mo Kelly.
We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio appas we continue our coverage of the events
unfolding at UCLA's campus. Stephen,do we have Michael Monks yet on the
line? Not yet? Okay,okay, we're gonna get him in place,

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but we want to follow what ishappening on the ground in just a
moment at uc Also want to letyou know at eleven o'clock, I'm going
to be with you until eleven o'clock. But at eleven o'clock we're going to
have Tim Conway Junior. I guesshe's a mad man. He's going to
be coming back into the studio todo another shift. I think he's going

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for a world record for the mosthours of radio in a given day.
So Tim Conway Junior will join meat eleven o'clock and we will chop it
up for a little bit. ThenI will pass the mic and the baton
to him at eleven PM. AsI said, we're going to continue to
follow this story for the rest ofthe night, as it's clear that things

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seem to be trending towards escalation.I say that very cautiously, but from
the information which is available, wedo know that protesters are amassing and they
seemingly are gearing up for a responsefrom LAPD and other law enforcement. More
law enforcement from our report from ChrisAdler, who has stuck my work on

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campus, more law enforcement has arrivedand is in place in front of Royce
Hall, and given the order ofdispersal, it doesn't seem like they have
any intentions of not enforcing it.So I suspect that there may be some
movement before the night is over.And Tiffany Hobbs, if you're there,

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I know you had a very importantupdate that I want you to share.
Yeah. So again, I've beenscouring social media because that's where a lot
of this information is coming from.But what I found is again a specific
organization that is associated with the newwhat they consider it to be the New

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Revolutionary Communist Party, has been allaround the country at these different protests over
the last week with their specific agenda, and what they are doing is they
are going to the protests. Theyare setting up their own their own again
insignia, their own paraphernalia. Theyare protesting, leading students and others in

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chants. This is all according totheir own social media website things that they
say that they have been doing.This is not just me speculating. They've
been leading people in chants, They'vebeen getting into the faces of law enforcement
or campus police, and they havebeen causing a lot of turmoil during times

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when campus protests are largely peaceful.So what may start as something that is
uneventful calm quickly escalates, and theirmotive is to escalate. They are using
today May first, May Day asa galvanizing date across the country, if

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not globally. I saw them Ialso speaking about Columbia, not the university,
the country and saying that May First, everyone should come together and essentially
start to escalate these situations because they'rein need of this extra energy. So
it is a dangerous situation when thesegroups get involved, and again they are

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agitators on both sides. And Iknow saying outside agitators can make people bristle
because of the connotation and because ofhow misused that phrasing can be. But
there are agitators on both sides ofthe coin who are completely interested in this
sort of disruption, in escalation,and then in the dark of night they

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disappear, and that is a hugeand dangerous problem. Tawala. We have
talked about this time and time again, and I said, when all of
this start, I said, bevery careful about who you allow to speak
on your behalf, who are theloudest voices, and who is part of

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your protests? And from what everythingthat we've seen and learned so far,
these protests have largely been hijacked andI would say almost given permission to hijack
them. Every single time there seemsto be one of these modern protests.
I call them modern because these proteststhat are hashtag moments in this history that
we're living through right now, theyare always hijacked. We literally saw how

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Black Lives Matter protests were hijacked byagitators, and in some cases it was
revealed even undercover police officers to startup something, and this is what happens.
We've said time and time again,not just with marches and protests,
even with social media protests, andyou've had different individuals who have agendas different

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from those who are the original spokespersonof said cause. Be careful who you
allow to hijack your message, becausethen it's not yours, but everyone will
remember you first. That's right.And we have kfi's own Michael Monks,
who's on the line right now.Michael, let me get out of the

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way. What do you see?What are you hearing? Well? Our
colleague Chriszandler has been reporting brilliantly fromall of this throughout the day. So
I've taken advantage of that opportunity towalk the entirety of the perimeter of the
protest that's going on here to geta sense of what it looks like.
And it's certainly the most intense thatwe've seen since these things have started here

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in LA around these campuses over thepast couple of weeks. I don't know
if you can hear the helicopters,but there are multiple health careacters hovering,
and it's not just police that arehere. There are a lot of private
security officers here as well. Youget the sense that people expect something to
take place on this campus today.So in addition to this centralized encampment as

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it's been referred to, there area lot of people gathering in the perimeters,
some chanting and doing some of theactivities that you've seen inside the encampments.
But then there are others. Iwas thinking, you know, in
history class, when you learn aboutpeople who would picnic civil war battles,
there are folks who I think arehere to observe, and so they're eating,
they're sharing food, They're sitting onthe hills and waiting for whatever it

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is they expect to happen on thiscampus tonight. It's tense. It's not
as loud, you know, fromthe people. It's loud from the helicopters,
my goodness. But people are talkingquietly, I think, paying a
lot of attention to chatter on socialmedia, seeing what the police might be
saying, and just trying to waitout whatever awaits us this evening here in

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Westwood. If I gather what you'resaying, there's not an escalation as far
as the protests are concerned. Asof this moment, but it is an
overall tense moment. Is that correct? I think there's just a lot of
anticipation. Yeah, yes, absolutely. You know, there's been word that
this encampment is to be broken up. Possibly, that's what's been spreading around

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here. And what that looks likeis what I think people are waiting for.
What does that mean? How willit go? Particularly in light of
what happened on this campus last night? Is there any ongoing discussion? I
asked Chris Adler about an hour anda half and ago hour and a half
ago, so I want to askyou the same. Is there any communication
between the encampment and law enforcement?I think law enforcement has made it clear

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that it's time to go, butthat ship I think has sailed for any
type of voluntary exit. And again, I think what folks are waiting for
here is what does another type ofexit look like? And once that starts,
what happens? Does that group offolks around the perimeter do they become

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part of this? You know what'sinteresting is a lot of people you can't
really refer to it as armor,but it's protective gear, low level protective
gear. I've seen a lot offolks in bike helmets, a lot of
people who anticipate, possibly protests,caught up in something. I'm talking about
the folks who are outside of themain nucleus of this thing. The folks

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who are and there are a lot, hundreds and hundreds of folks who are
on the outskirts of this thing withme. And I'm seeing folks in helmets,
and they all seem prepared for somethinghappening here at some point tonight.
Tell me how law enforcement is,they're at tire, what type of are

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they wearing? Helmets? Are theirriot shields? Tell me what you see
from a law enforcement standpoint. There'sa variety of different aesthetics on the various
law enforcement officers and the security personnelthat are here. So on the perimeter
where I am, you're seeing atypical security guard people in bright colored vest
to let you know that they're hereto either keep you out or to direct

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you elsewhere. Streets are blocked off, and then I think being caught up
in the anticipation of or the preparationI should say, on the law enforcement
side, there certainly are officers whoare probably closer to the nucleus of this
situation who are ready to protect themselves. Should this take a turn, Michael,

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in the thirty seconds I have leftwith you, are you enjoying my
word a freedom of movement? Canyou move about? Can you interview people
who are protesting? Or are youcordoned off altogether? I have found a
little quiet patio here on this campuswith a lot of benches. And you

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have a little bit of concern asa member of the media with some of
these things, and I've got theKFI Mike flag on this thing. I
didn't want to draw any attention tomyself, so I've stepped away. I'm
observing the folks who are are walkingpast here, but I found a quiet
little cove here on campus in orderto report to you this evening. Michael,

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monks, stay safe. I knowyou're going to be there for a
while, so we may check inwith you sometime later as the evening progresses.
I'll be here and ready for you, moum k IF. I am
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