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May 17, 2024 30 mins
ICYMI: Hour Two of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – A look at Google’s Dark Web Monitoring; how it protects you & how to set it up AND some of the new Tech announced at Google I/O this week on ‘Tech Thursday’ with regular guest commentator; (author, podcast host, and technology pundit) Marsha Collier…PLUS – Thoughts on the rise & fall of ‘Movie Pass’ AND TidalWave Comics chronicling the life of Janet Jackson in the comic book release “Female Force: Janet Jackson” - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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You're listening to Later with Moe Kellyon demand from KFI AM six forty.
It's time to Talk Tech with MarshallCollier and we're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio
app could evening. Marshall Callier,it is great to see you. You
look radiant tonight. Any special reasonor occasion I'm pregnant. Well maybe we

(00:22):
should let your husband know he needsto know more than all of southern California
tonight. Okay, okay, Wellthat's a messed up way to find out.
There you go. So you know, I'm writing this Android book and
I'm I'm looking at six phones andI'm seeing what they all do differently.

(00:43):
Mind blowing. I took a pictureof a flower with three different brands of
phones and they were all totally different. And then Google Photos sends me a
notification we've made a stylized photo,so that means up in Google Photos,
what has been uploaded? They appliedAI to an existing photo and they want

(01:07):
to show it to me. That'skind of weird. You didn't ask for
that, Oh kind of I did? Oh you did? Okay, because
I like it. It does dogreat things, the AI. We may
talk about it. Later. TheAI and Google Photos also may take several
of the same shot, kind oflike Apple's live shot I think it's called.

(01:30):
But what this does is it picksthe face shot, yeah, the
best shot, and it picks thebest faces and puts them in one photo.
So someone, if I'm understanding correctly, if someone has their eyes closed
in one photo and some other personin a similar photo has their eyes closed
but open in a different photo,they're going to swap the faces, wow,

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and make one. So you know, AI can do things. But
this just me away. I'd heardabout Google's dark web monitoring, and we've
kind of talked about different monitoring servicesand have I been poned website checking that
out. But I went to checkout Google dark Web monitoring, which if

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you use Gmail, is free foryou. So there's that It will notify
you if your passwords are in adata breach, but it already does that.
To set up a profile to monitoryour dark web, open the Google
One app. You don't have it, just download it. You can also

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get to it by tapping your picturein the upper right hand corner of Gmail
and tap manage my account. Whenyou do there, do it that way,
you will see kind of a movablemenu and you tap on the word
security. Just keep moving it tillyou find the word security, and you

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go down on security and until it'sway at the very very bottom dark web
monitoring. So I did mine andMO did his. Yes, I did
you know? And the thing is, MO, why don't you tap on
one of those? Well, itsorts it out where you It will let

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you know the accounts which have beenexposed on the dark Web, and it
also breaks it down to whether it'sthe password, whether it was the username,
whether it was the email address.Well, and what's interesting, whether
it was the email address. Soas you can see, when you tap
on the email address, it givesyou and then you tap on the results,

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which is shocking. I have fortyseven that have my email address,
but when I tap on it,it tells you kind of which email address
you have. In other words,it'll show like first three letters or right
now it's showing the whole thing.But let me say it's with password.

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Yeah, tapping on password, whichI have twenty one results, I tap
on that one and it shows methe first three letters of the password.
Now I know that that's an oldpassword that I had on accounts long long
ago, so I'm not using itnow so they can enjoy it and play

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with it and do whatever they want. And actually almost everyone I tapped on
how you doing with that? Mo? Some of it is alarming, some
of it is not surprising. Someof it has to do with accounts that
I don't use anymore. I don'thave any problems saying this. It's like
I had. I used Tumblr oncefifteen years ago, and I know that

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it doesn't have any valuable information attachedto it, So I'm less concerned about
that one. But there's some otherones which give me pause. Now,
what gives me pause is some ofthe and they identify what company reached your
data, which is interesting, andI googled a few of them and a
lot of them when you're shopping ecommerce, their payment processors, So that's

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how they got your information and theykept it. Did you give them permission
to keep it? Was it sold? Yeah? That's upsetting to me also.
And then one of the things thatI also noticed Sensitive Source. Now
I know there's no website called sensitivesource, but on sensitive Source they got

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my phone number, my password,my user name, and my email.
So I tap it and son ofa gun. They do have my phone
number, they do have one ofmy active email addresses, but not when
I really used and an active password. Everything was correct, So how do

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I know it? Sensitive sources?Google says a sensitive source is a breach
whose source has been hidden. Showingthe a source may risk an ongoing investigation
or individual's identity. But this breachoccurred in twenty seventeen. They got everything.
I can't undo that. You can'tundo that. You can't undo that

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at all, and they do giveyou suggested steps, you know, change
compromise password. This password is oneof my one of my golden ones that
I rarely use, so that's reallyannoy And you know, to protect yourself
from spam calls, which is thateven possible? Well, actually Google has

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something in the works right now,which uh, I mean, I can
block the calls after they come inat least once, but I don't know
if it's almost like eradicating disease ofthe planet. Okay, let's let me
skip jump a little bit. Butwe're talking about Google today, so we
might as well just skip jump alittle bit. They're having a new thing

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that works on your phone. GoogleIo is like the Apple conference and it's
all about AI, which is goodand bad and very nineteen eighty four in
my opinion. But okay, sowhat they did is they put a scam
detection feature in the phone. Thisresides in your phone. The phone calls

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do not go to Google for analysis. It is on your phone. It's
safe and private. What it does, the new scam detection feature will listen
in on your phone calls and detectany language that sounds like something a scammer
would use, like asking you tomove money into a different account. If

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it here's you getting duped, itwill interrupt the call and give you an
on screen prompt suggesting you hang up. I think that is very valuable.
It is, and you know thisis something that's coming up. I just
I'm on the beta test for GoogleFit Android fifteen, so I'm seeing a

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lot of these things and there's alot of AI. But back to the
dark web monitoring. You have tohave a Google account for this. People
pay like twenty dollars a month forthis information. And I found that this
data that Google has is far moreimportant. Somebody who told me about it

(08:39):
was in the AT and T breach. They got a message from Google two
weeks before they heard from AT andT about the breach. So this is
effective, it works, and it'svaluable. I say, just do it.
Go to manage your account. Youhave a problem, you know where
to find me. I'm on Twitterevery day. You can find me on

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my Facebook page, but I'm notreally there all the time. So yeah,
I'd love to help you out.You mentioned Google Io, and there's
some tech announcements which came out ofthat. Let's get into that when we
come back. Let's do you're listeningto Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty. As wecontinue Tech Thursday. Google, I oh

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this week. I got to tellyou, you know, all these different
every tech company is trying for thelatest and the greatest. Now, granted,
we all knew that they were goingto come out with a Pixel eight
a own and that was good.I haven't seen it yet, and you
know everybody liked it. Blah blahblah. But the interesting thing is the

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CEO of Google, Sundar Pinchey,said on stage that the new AI is
going to be on device. Now, we talked about that a minute ago.
Your safety with it being on thedevice and not being sent back to
Google's cloud. Good luck. Well, if that's what it is, if

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they're not lying, that's a lotsafer. You know, you've got three
different kinds of AI GO, andyou've got the Chat GPT, you have
the Microsoft Copilot, and you havethe Google Gemini, which is at least
Google's own creation. I do believeand have heard that Microsoft is really a

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play off of Chat GPT. Sowhether it's better or not, Chat GPT
needed source material. Microsoft, Yeah, that could work. But they say
that they can now turn any inputto any output. That means it'll pull

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information from texts, photos, videos, audio, web social videos, and
live video from your phone's camera.It will be able to synthesize input to
summarize what's within. Like you everhave a VHS stape at home and you
didn't put the sticker on it accidentallyrecord over it. I have boxes of

(11:22):
them and I have no idea what'son them, and I can't send them
in to be digitized because if Ido that, I'll end up with five
episodes of Mary Tyler Moore with myluck. So you know, but now
it will label things for you.It is going to get deep into our
lives. Gmail. You may havenoticed, if you're using Gmail, that

(11:48):
it'll suggest the end of a sentence, the predictive text. Yes, I
don't mind that. What I mindis when Gmail takes a step too far.
Receive an email. Let's say ithas by flight arrangement, and it
says it immediately puts it on mycalendar, or it gives me a reminder,
And I love that. I justlove that. Sometimes I like it

(12:13):
as far as finding information. SometimesI think it's a little bit too intrusive.
I agree, But when it comesto events and appointments and calls zooms,
you know, I want them onmy calendar, and I'm grateful.
As a matter of fact, Ihave mindset even when I get a bill,

(12:33):
you know, when my credit cardcompany said it puts it on my
calendar, Well, that way,I have them there. No, I
get that. It's just I wouldlike to be able to be the one
to decide what goes on the calendarminor set up that way. I don't
believe it's automatic, but it justmay be in the future, right right,

(12:54):
because I do find it handy whenI open it up in the morning
and it appears on the calendar twodays ahead. I better pay that bill
do in two days, so henceI'm not late with bills ever. So
you know they've been better at autopay, right you know that? Right?
You really think I'm kidding. Waita minute, raise hands everybody here.

(13:18):
I bet ronner gives his bank informationto sources to just take money. What
she mentioned you, she invoked you. I didn't mention your name, okay,
I was working on something else andI just okay, blah blah blah
blah like a dog, and thenmy name. Okay, mark two years
auto pay on anything. I thinka couple things, but I'm pretty judicious

(13:43):
about it, ma'am. Well,because I've found on auto pay, especially
the ones on autopay, they're theones who screw up the most on invoices
that you have to go back andlook on. Well, that's alarming,
Yes, it is, especially sinceI think my healthcare is on auto pay.
Healthcare and bank fees Hello, bankfees come up out of nowhere.

(14:07):
But supposedly now the AI is goingto check these for you. It will
make a spreadsheet out of your creditcard bills if you'd like it too.
You have to ask it nicely,though, and it responds to verbal commands
of the AI detect tone does ithow well does it do sarcasm? Does

(14:31):
it recognize insults? That's what Iwant to know. I try, I
try, but it hasn't as yet. They also now have a visual chat
pot called Project Astra. Now we'vetalked about Google Lens before, which is
fabulous. You can take a pictureso it'll identify something for you, but
this one you can. I cantake a picture of you and ask who

(14:58):
is that in my picture? Andit will tell me terrifying that's facial recognition
by another name. And not onlythat, it'll talk about products where you
can buy them, where you canfind them. You tossed the question,
show it the picture. It'll giveyou an accurate like when was this piece

(15:20):
of Wedgewood may or when was thispiece of pottery made? And by who?
That would be Wedgewood seventeen fifty four. It's going to happen. You
know, I love technology, butI also know that I happen to like
a certain degree of privacy, eventhough most of it does not exist in
real life. I don't like itthrown in my face. You know,

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it's a fantasy and it upsets me. Well, one thing. Sorry,
you know, remember we tried theApple Vision pro Yes, we dare and
I'm not a fan, and I'mnot a fan of the Meta a fan
of AR I get carsick when I'mdoing that augmented reality for those who don't
know, And they are trying toforce that down people's throats as the latest

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and the greatest. But the visionprofailed, So it doesn't mean that just
because they're forcing it doesn't mean thatwe're going to buy it. We're going
to buy in exactly, and peopledidn't buy it. But this was on
the heels of Facebook or Meta excuseme, had the same type of product
and nobody wanted that one either.So what is it that they're going to

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be able to invent to sell us? Because the whole deal with a business
is we have to sell something.So it's either going to be subscriptions or
it's going to be AI. It'sgoing to be subscriptions because the subscription model
has permeated everything from cars obviously entertainment. You won't own anything, you'll have
to be a subscriber for anything.Well, remember the first few pills are

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free. Once you start liking it, then they're gonna start charging he just
went crack dealer on me. Thankyou for that crack reference, Marshall Party.
We got to get out of here, but it's always great to see
you. Thank you for the greatinformation about how we can protect ourselves on
a dark web, and more goodseeing you. Mo. Everybody. Stop

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by Amazon. My books are there. I'm writing a new one and if
you have any questions you can messageme on Twitter. It's wide open.
You're listening to Later with Moe Kellyon demand from KFI AM six forty.
I said it, I said ityears ago. I'm saying it again.
I was right. Remember Movie passI say remember movie Past, because it's

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in the past. Movie passes nomore. It was this movie subscription service
where you'd pay a certain amount ofmoney and you get to see a certain
amount of movies per month just aboutanywhere in the country, with the exception
of southern California, New York thenthere's that. But they had the basic

(18:02):
plan for ten dollars a month.You could see up to three movies in
that month. They had the standardplan twenty dollars a month you can see
up to seven movies, and therewas a premium plan thirty dollars a month
where you could see up to elevenmovies and just about any theater around the

(18:23):
country. I say just about becauseSouthern California and New York Metro were excluded,
So if you lived outside of SouthernCalifornia or New York Metro, it
might have been appealing. But Iremember when it was first unveiled, I
said, this doesn't mathematically make sense, if only because I know that when

(18:44):
a movie's in theaters it's almost likea fifty to fifty split between the studio,
the movie studio, and the movietheater. And if you were to
discount all these tickets, I don'tknow how anyone makes money. It didn't
make any sense. Well, abouta year and a half passed and the
company went straight to hell. HBOis doing a documentary on Movie Pass and

(19:10):
I can't wait to see it.Movie Pass a subscription service the Netflix to
the movie. Then it was thegreatest thing ever. Movie Past, Movie
Past, Movie Past. The popularmovie took it out. Movie Past,
We remember them, whatever happened tothose guys. We thought this could reinvigorate

(19:32):
the movie going business. A movieany theater, any day. I went
to the movie theater four under twentyeight times. Movie Past double the revenue
in the theaters. We were wortheighty million dollars plus three. We had
a product that no one could stop. Mitch was making a toast and he
said, mark my words, everyone'sgonna be rich. They just spend spen
spen spence spent going to Coachella partyingwith big boy John Travolta. It burnt

(19:59):
of two fifty million dollars. Well, we'll wait, wait, will whooa
woolf. Meanwhile, there weren't extensioncords to plug our computers into. There
were hundreds of thousands of customer servicetickets. A customer sent a box of
shoe to the office. I waslike, we need to pump the brakes
a little bit. I just thoughtthat it would be better if he wasn't
a part of the team, andhe's like the heart of Movie Past.

(20:22):
The deeper you got in, themore you realize all of this was part
of a bigger story. A lotof times when you talk about Movie Past,
you usually get a picture of mitcheand Ted, but that's definitely not
the case. It is an endlesslist of Oh my god, what is
happening here? Oh good, theseold stories. This is a company,

(20:45):
not a family, and not allroles get the party Karma's boose. It's
interesting because the documentary positions it asif it was a a spending problem,
not a basic math problem, relativeto does a business model make sense for

(21:10):
movie theaters studios as well as thecustomer. I get it how it was
value for the customer. I getit. You're getting to see a lot
of movies for a low price.So why in the hell would movie theaters
get something out of that? Whywould they agree to that? And I
think that's part of the larger story. Was it a little pyramidye? Or

(21:33):
was it just basic math that didn'tcompute in any respect at all. I
think it's the latter. I thinkit's that. I'll watch the documentary to
find out. I just think thiscould have never worked because they discounted the
tickets to such a point where noone makes any money. I've had friends
who had these things, and whenthey were up and running. There have
been several attempts by the way toresurrect movie Pass. Yep, they want

(21:55):
to get in there while the gettingis good, because I think even the
people who had the pass is new. It was too good to be true.
I remember when it first debuted,we laughed out loud, there was
no way you're gonna come to mytheater with the past that discounts basically undercuts
my bottom line. You're telling methat there's some company that is selling discounted

(22:18):
tickets to films. I'm showing thisis my thing. Movie pass doesn't own
any theaters. They have no theaterchanged nothing. They're just giving people a
discount to come and see my movies. And were they paying movie theaters like
a subsidy or something to balance itout? At that time, there was
no clarity because every time we triedto look and find out how they worked,

(22:40):
what is the financial structure? Beforewe got any answers, Movie Passed
officially shut down twice twice. Wecan't wait for the documentary because I would
love to see the spreadsheet again.I'm quite sure they were wasting money,
spending money left and right, kindof like you know, a girl's Gone
Wild type thing. I get allthat. I just want to see the

(23:02):
initial business model. I want tosee the breakdown of how they were making
money or was it like what youwere saying, Mark, just an elaborate
pyramid scheme where only people at thevery top were making money. I'm fascinated
by failures in business like this,like if you remember h Q Trivia.
In fact, I heart I HeeartMedia had a really interesting podcast about the

(23:23):
rise and fall of that particular businessfailure. So I can't wait to watch
this documentary. By the way,Toallette, if you're a theater owner,
now, can you do something aboutpeople with their phones? O mar is
that your thing? People lighting uptheir phones while the rest of us are

(23:45):
trying to watch movies. That's that'sunacceptable. Are you going to supply some
some baseball bats to uh to thein the back of seats and cocks on
the back of the head when they'refront completely completely justified. We're about on
the show, We're about peace,We're about peace. Well, they're disturbing
my piece with their phones. That'strue. We're trying to reform you,

(24:07):
Mark, but you're not helping us. So well, you got your work
cut out for you, because thephone thing just makes my eyes roll up
to the whites and then talking duringmovies. My thing is when you're kicking
the back of my chair, ohyeah, or you're using the chair in.
Let's say the next to the chairas a foot rest, and you're
because you put your feet up onthat chair next to me. Just because
someone's not sitting in it, itdoesn't mean it's a foot rest. And

(24:29):
I can feel every time you movebecause you're shaking that whole damn roll.
Yeah, was there a trigger warningwith this segment? Because I'm losing my
mind right now. Oh there's there'sa trigger. That is why I always
buy tickets for us where in theback? Yes, row, yes,
speaking to which, man, I'msorry, you're gonna miss out on bad
Boys uh forever or whatever the sexone is called. Unfortunately, I got
to go to a funeral out oftown, so it's not like it's a

(24:53):
a vacation park though. It's justyou know the crew. We ride together,
you know, we die together.Bad voys for life. Going to
see this if someone life of theirphone, so well, get to see
Furiosa together. That is true,and I'm hearing it's amazing, absolutely amazing.
I'll try to stay awake. Idon't watch movies at midnight that start

(25:14):
at midnight. It's a George Millermovie, of course, you're gonna stay
awake, it's like it's like,uh, watching some crack. I have
no reference point, but I'll takeyour word for it. Yes, yes,
my vast experience is cracked cocaine here. If you cut any questions,
just ask. So it's just aweird metaphor that you reach for, that's
all. Yeah. Sorry, Sorry. When we're working on the fly like

(25:37):
this, you don't. You don'talways have time to work out your your
metaphors. When we come back,we're going to talk about a new comic
book which is chronicling Janet Jackson's lifejourney. That's next KFI A six forty
Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app you'relistening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand
from KFI AM six forty. JanetJackson is an icon. She is one

(26:00):
of the most beloved performers in musichistory. I don't think that's hyperbolic.
She is still performing, she isstill touring, and I know that she
doesn't move as fast and her performancesare not as elaborate as maybe. Once
upon a time I worked. WhenI say I worked with Jana Jackson,

(26:21):
I worked for a record label,Virgin Records, back in the late nineties.
Had the opportunity to hang out withher on more than one occasion.
She's one of the few celebrities Ican say she. I don't have anything
bad to say about her. Shewas always very nice, always very engaging.
She's actually a shy person. Ifshe's not familiar with you, she's

(26:45):
not going to stay a lot.Once she becomes comfortable with you, she
opens right up. She's just regularpeople talking about her. Because there is
a new what they call it ina comic book, but it seems more
like a graphic novel, and itchronicles Janet jackson life journey. Title Wave
Comics is adapting Janet Jackson's life storyinto a comic book part of their Female

(27:07):
Force series. It's going to betitled Female Force Janet Jackson. The comic
written by Michael Frazell and illustrated byRamon Salas. Quote will begin with her
origin as the youngest sibling of theiconic Jackson family, to the two thousand
and four Super Bowl debacle, andthe history she made along the way and
beyond. I don't know why theywould stop at two thousand and four,

(27:29):
but okay. The official press releasedates quote. Female Force Janet Jackson presents
an enthralling twenty two page narrative.Available in both digital and print formats.
This comic can easily be accessed acrossvarious platforms, including Amazon. Fans have
the option to enjoy the soft coverand hardcover editions. That's another reason why

(27:52):
I think it's more of a graphicnovel. When you say hardcover, I'm
thinking graphic novel more so than anactual comic a mark. If you go
to euur web dot com, youcan see some photos of it there,
and I know you probably would havesome thoughts on this. Well, my
first thought is that a graphic novelis a comic. It is, but
I think there's a distinction with adifference as far as sophistication of the presentation.

(28:17):
Is that fair? No, No, it's they're the same thing.
It's they're identical. Okay, allright, then, well maybe look stupid.
That's a fun that's all right now. Well, I think a lot
of people don't know because it waskind of a term that was used to
make them less shameful for people whowanted to buy the collections in your Barns
and Nobles in places like that,so nobody could be blamed for not knowing
the difference. I've always thought ofcomic versus a graphic novel or a graphic

(28:42):
novel tend to hew or skew olderas far as material was concerned. It's
fair, But nah, we've allbeen propagandized by the industry. Okay,
fine, graphic comic, comic novel. I mean, if you want to
call some of my comics graphic novels, that really classes them up. And

(29:06):
it goes on. This is MichaelFrazell, one of the writers who says,
quote, you know what's cool aboutwriting about Janet Jackson, It's like
telling a story of triumph and creativity. Her legacy isn't just about hits.
It's about breaking barriers and unapologetically herself. Yeah, it's kind of cool,
But actually this is why, ifyou have a chance to look at it,

(29:29):
I wonder mark as someone who's aconnoisseur of comics and graphic novels.
Yes, I'm looking at the Amazonpage right now. Okay, what do
you think of using I guess youcan still call her a contemporary artist to
tell her story in this particular styleof medium. Well, I was trying
to figure out who the actual publisherwas because there was kind of a low

(29:52):
rent label that put out bio comicsabout people over the last couple of decades
and nobody read them, but theyalways were good for news and talk fodder,
you know. So I don't reallyhave any way of evaluating this one
just from what I've seen so far. But I mean, back from before
we were even kids, they hadyou know, like classics illustrated and stuff
like that that had bios of presidentsand people like that. I mean,

(30:15):
it's all fair game. Actually,I guess my question is, do you
think this could start a bigger trend? Well, you'll see the Taylor Swift
comic and the Beyonce comic or someother luminary. Now I'd be shocked if
there wasn't already a Taylor Swift one. But now comic people who are generally
you know, man children like theywant to see muscular people punching each other.

(30:37):
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