July 16, 2024 • 36 mins
ICYMI: Hour One of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – In-depth analysis of the attempted assassination of former President Donald J. Trump…PLUS - Thoughts on U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon dismissing the Florida classified documents case against the former president AND Trump selecting JD Vance as his Vice President at the RNC & MORE - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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You're listening to Later with Moe Kellyon demand from KFI AM six forty because
KFI AM six forty we're alive everywhereon the iHeartRadio app have to jump in.
As former President Trump is now gettingready to come to the stage.
We go right now to Milwaukee andthe RNC Convention. As the former president
approaches the stage, he's now shakinghands with various members of his family.
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Congressman Byron Douglas, his son DonaldTrump Junior. JD. Vance is in
the front row with Speak of theHouse Mike Johnson. Also see Tiffany Trump,
somebody who tried to kill him.You will not take this man down.
He has the courage, the strength, and he will be the next
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president of the United States. Tothe Hill. Okay, he seems to
be stopping in the first row,and the audience at the RNC is acknowledging
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his presence. He has not officiallyapproached the stage, and we will continue
to monitor when he is going togive official remarks. We know that he's
going to formally announce JD. Vance, Senator Vance, who is standing right
next to him and also alongside Speakof the House Mike Johnson's going to formally
announce and acknowledge that Senator Vance ishis vice presidential candidate, and we know
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that he'll Senator Vance will have remarks, and we don't know how long the
former president is expected to speak,but we know that he will speak.
He's there in his customary red tie, white shirt, and dark blue jacket.
He has a prominent bandage over hisright ear. His neck seems a
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bit stiff. As far as howhe moves, he's not moving naturally and
normally when he tries to turn andacknowledge the crowd. But he is I
would say about in the front rowof the delegation, the convention delegation.
As he looks on he's speaking topeople around him. We're listening, obviously
to Lean Greenwood. I guess acknowledgethe moment and sing his song that he
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usually uses for the entrance of thepresident. So we're continuing to monitor that,
monitor that, and if the formerpresident should approach the podium or Senator
JD. Vance should approach the podium, we will have their remarks to you.
And I know that was an abruptintroduction to the show tonight, but
that's kind of where we needed tostart anyway, and that's where I am
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going to start. I was speakingwith the Fork reporter Neil Savagra, talking
about how I happened upon what happenedSaturday, just doing my normal monitoring of
political events. If the President shouldspeak Joe Biden, I usually tune in
just for information's sake, because Imay be called upon to give commentary for
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the BBC or Spectrum News. Andon this occasion on Saturday, I was
listening to former President Trump speak viathe Newsmax app in the car, so
I couldn't see anything which was happening, but I was listening. And if
you didn't hear what I was sayingto Neil Savadra, it was early on
in the speech, as we allknow, didn't even really get good into
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it when I heard the pop poppop sound and I immediately because we talk
about it here on the show,the difference between fireworks and gunshots, and
to me, it's immediately signified gunshots. It sounded, it had that cadence,
it had that rhythm of gunshots,and I pulled over because the speech
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obviously immediately stopped. I couldn't seewhat was going I didn't know. I
could hear a bit of what theSecret Service was saying, but I didn't
see it, and I pulled overbecause on my phone, I could pull
up a television app and then Icould see what was going on and get
some live, real time idea ofwhat was happening. And then we know,
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as they say, the rest ishistory. But I wanted to start
there talking about history, talking aboutwhere nineteen sixty eight has long been used
as the analog for right now.People want to compare this moment to nineteen
sixty eight. Nineteen sixty eight wasthe assassination of Robert F. Kennedy,
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it was assassination of Reverend doctor MartinLuther King Junior. And people compare that
year, even before Saturday, compareit to twenty twenty four, talking about
the discord, talking about the rhetoric, talking about the unsettled nature of the
United States, the acrimony. Therewere riots back in nineteen sixty eight,
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there were protests anti Vietnam War protests. America was a very conflicted and a
place was full of upheaval. Thatwas nineteen sixty eight. There are a
lot of similarities to twenty twenty fourand now with the assassination attempt of Donald
Trump here in twenty twenty four,it seems more and more like it.
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And that's gonna be my starting point. We've heard President Biden talk about the
call for unity. We've heard offormer President Trump as far as his truth
social post, calling for unit.Just let me just skip to the end.
It is not going to be that. It is not going to have
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unity. We're not going to haveunity in this country. As far as
the rhetoric, we've had ample opportunitiesto tone down the rhetoric. We have
never made any attempt at toning downthe rhetoric. And here's what I mean.
We can go back to a Congresswoman, Gabby Giffords, who was shot
in the head. There was noattempt to tone down the rhetoric. After
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that, we had the congressional softballgame shooting Steve's Galise, Congressman Steve's Galise
was shot and injured. There wasno real effort to tone down the rhetoric.
After that, there was the Januarysixth, No members of Congress were
harmed, no harm came to VicePresident Pence, but also no effort was
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made to tone down the rhetoric.We know what happened when the husband of
former Speaker Nancy Pelosi was attacked.Paul Pelosi hit in the head with the
hammer. We saw pretty much whathappened on video, and in response,
we had some cable news hosts makingjokes about it, talking about how it
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was some sort of gay conspiracy.But another way, we didn't make any
real effort to tone down the rhetoricand now this so it's reasonable from where
I sit to make the assumption thatwe're not going to make any real effort
to change direction. And maybe,and I want to be very careful about
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how I say this, maybe it'sbecause we've never had to deal with the
full weight of the consequences of ourrhetorical action. Let me give you an
example. I had mentioned Congresswoman GabbyGiffords, even though she was shot in
the head, thank goodness, shesurvived. Even though Congressman steve's Galise was
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shot, I believe in the hiphe survived. Even though there was plenty
of violence on January sixth, Andthere was an officer who died due to
health related reasons after January sixth,and also Ashley Babbitt was shot and killed.
There was not the weight of whatcould have happened. It did not
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happen on January sixth, and weknow with Paul Pelosi, even though he
was hitting a head with a hammer, he survived. The point I'm making
is that because of all these incidentsnot leading to the ultimate consequences, I
believe has given us a false senseof security, or it has told us
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wrongly that we didn't have to changedirection. And it might be some of
that, it might be all ofthat. We did not make any real
effort to change direction. And herewe are, And here's something else I've
noticed about America in this moment.And let me back up and say this.
If you're just now talking about politicalrhetoric, if you're just now concerned,
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if you're just now outraged, ifyou're just now saying we need to
make a change because of what happenedon Saturday, it's hard for me to
take you seriously because a lot hasbeen happening leading up to right now.
We didn't get here Friday night,because each time one of these incidents has
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taken place, I've said it everysingle time. I've said it when we
had the dear missus, I've saidit when we've been able to stop someone
in the formulation of these instants.When talking about Governor Gretchen Whitmer and the
plot to kidnap her, I saidit every single time we were going down
this path, And it only takesone idiot. Those are the words that
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I use. It only takes oneidiot. And on Saturday we saw one
idiot. Congress this woman Gabby Giffordsencountered that one idiot. The congressional softball
game encountered that one idiot. Januarysixth, Well, there were a bunch
of vidiots that day, but itonly takes one idiot for all of this
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to go really bad, really quickly. So I don't believe that America is
actually about the business of toning downthe rhetoric. I believe we're more concerned
with trying to blame someone, andwe only want to blame someone when the
person or the party we care aboutgets hurt. And until we start caring
about all Americans, until we startreally caring about violence, until we really
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start caring about gun violence. Youknow what happened on Saturday. Gun culture
went gun culture. And nobody shouldbe surprised. We have been approaching this
moment for quite some time. OnSaturday, it happened to be directed at
former President Trump, but it's notthe only time. It's just the latest
time, and there's going to benext time unless we change our rhetorical direction.
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It's Later with mo Kelly. We'recontinuing to monitor the RNC. Former
President Trump is now in the conventioncenter, sitting alongside Congressman Byron Donalds and
also Senator jd Vance, who weassume that he will introduce later on as
his official vice presidential pick, andwe will have each or both of their
remarks as they come to the podiumlive. You're listening to Later with Moe
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Kelly on demand from KFI AM sixforty. We are monitoring the RNC in
Milwaukee, Wisconsin, and right nowon the stage is rapper and influencer and
I think that's a generous read.That's what they have on the chiron a
Lease. Amber Rose is speaking beforethe RNC. And if you don't know
who Amber Rose is, that's quiteunderstandable. She is not significant in political
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circles. She is known in hiphop circles and stripper circles. That's all
I can say. That's what she'sknown for. But she's right now at
the RNC addressing the crowd. Thereason I mentioned that is because we're waiting
for either JD. Vance, SenatorAdvance of Ohio to speak. He has
been publicly named as the vice presidentialpick for Donald Trump. The second portion
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of the ticket. We're gonna waitfor him to speak and or former President
Trump to speak. Customarily, youwill have the top of the ticket introduce
the bottom of the ticket, andthe bottom of the ticket will speak at
the convention. So everyone is inthe house. The former president is there,
Senator Vance is there. We don'tknow the order of the program in
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that regard, but if and wheneither or both speak, will bring that
to you live. You need notworry about missing it. But let me
get back to what I was sayingtalking about Saturday, putting it in historical
context. There was something else Iwanted to say. When I finally got
to see some of the video ofwhat transpired Saturday, of the assassination attempt,
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I know that you're no different thanme. We have we have all
sorts of questions about why something didhappen, why something did not happen,
why something was not secured, whysomething was allowed to happen, How did
this person get here, how didthis person scale the side of a building
with a rifle and no one stophim. Why was there not someone on
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top of the building, you know, with with oversight, you know overview
excuse me, overwatch position and havingdirect line of sight to the former president?
How does that happen? Why didit happen? Whose responsibility was it?
Was it Secret Service? Was itlocal law enforcement? Was it something
that was handed off by secret Service? I would say, all those are
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reasonable questions. All those are legitimatequestions. All those are legitimate questions which
rightfully demand answers. This is myonly admonition to you. Don't try to
use your imagination and your political worldviewto fill in those blanks. Don't say,
well, how did this happen?It must be because it was all
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stage, or how did this happen? It must have been because that this
is all a ruse, or JoeBiden ordered this. That's just you using
your imagination to fill in the blanks. You're going to get a lot of
these answers. You may not likethe answers, but you will get the
answers. We know that President Bidenhas asked for an independent formal investigation.
We know that Speaker of the HouseMike Jansen Johnson has called for a congressional
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investigation. It may not happen immediately, but we know that it is going
to happen, and we know thatthe Secret Service will have to answer for
what did and did not transpire onSaturday. And I will tell you,
like I told all my friends andfamily and people who I may interact with
on social media, don't say somethingstupid on social media and get your ass
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fired. Don't do it. Iknow that you want to have a hot
take, you want to say this, you want to be funny, you
want to post the memes and everything, but just know people are watching people.
This is a very serious moment.Excuse me, should be a very
serious moment. But we are anun serious nation. We are an un
serious country. If you think aboutwhat has been transpiring the last six or
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seven years, how we've been respondingto it. I mean the people that
we look to for political endorsements,the type of rhetoric that we've been employing.
It has been an un serious marchthrough history. Now, there are
some serious moments. Saturday was extremelyserious. And also let me say this.
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I know I'm jumping around, butthere are a lot of fuss that
I've had about this moment, notonly in America, but what happened on
Saturday. I know Republicans and Trump'ssupporters are probably clicking their heels, thinking
that, oh, the elections inthe bag. Is it's a done deal.
We don't have to worry about it. Trump's going to be the next
president. And that may be,that may be. Everything which has happened
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in the past few days points inthat direction. But I would caution you,
and I'm going to use history asa guide and a comparison point.
I would not confuse momentum with anoutcome. In twenty sixteen, Secretary Hillary
Clinton was ahead in the polls mostof the way, even with the FBI
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investigation which was opened by James Comyand then closed and then opened to close
whatever. Right before the election,she was still leading in the polls.
And I believe looking back, mostDemocrats were complacent. Most Democrats did,
There's no way this guy is goingto beat Hillary Clinton. And then reality
happened. There's some parallels here,because this is July. Let me just
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take you back three weeks, justthree weeks, three weeks ago, no
one could have foreseen what was goingto transpire at that presidential debate. Nobody,
absolutely nobody. People were tuning into see what was going to happen,
but no one could predict the flameout of Joe Biden in that way.
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Because President Biden had asked for thedebate. He basically said, I'm
don't I want you to meet meon this day in this place, and
we're gonna rhetorically duke it out onstage for all the world to see.
And it didn't go the way thatI'm quite sure he wanted it to go.
No one predicted that, and thenit sent the Democratic Party and the
race into a spiral because no oneexpected it. No one knew how to
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respond to that. The Democrats didn'tknow how to respond to it. I
think even former President Trump was like, damn, I didn't expect him to
be that easy, and he eventook a step back and said less and
let the Democrats hurt themselves. Thatwas a few weeks ago. Then we
moved forward and we have what happenedthis last Saturday with the assassination attempt,
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and that throws another monkey wrench intowhat we thought this election was going to
be. And if you want,you can even throw in the dismissal of
the classified documents case by Judge AileenCannon. Today. These are all unforeseen
circumstances, but they're not determinative,and I'll tell you why. And again
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I started with talking about nineteen sixtyeight. I'm gonna use nineteen sixty eight
again as a comparison point. Innineteen sixty eight, if you don't know
your history, that was a yearin which Robert F. Kennedy was assassinated.
We're talking about the second Kennedy tobe assassinated in a five year span.
We're talking about in America who wasalready emotionally on the side of the
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Kennedys and the Democrats. And whenRFK was killed, the Democrats in a
presidential election sense, they were upabout five to six points when July of
nineteen sixty eight. There's some parallelshere, and the reason that they were
up is because the feeling, thesentiment, and also, I will say,
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the sympathy for the Kennedy family.Most people thought it was a foregone
conclusion that whoever was going to bethe Democratic candidate was going to be the
president. It turned out to bethen Vice President Hubert Humphrey, and up
until maybe October, Humphrey was leadingin the polls. If you know how
the election turned out, he wastrounced, not I mean, he barely
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beat segregationist candidate George Wallace, whocleaned up the southern states. All I'm
saying is July doesn't determine what happensin November. And if we use what
happened in twenty sixteen and a lessonfrom the Democrats, I believe the Democrats
took their feet off the gas.And we know it's been greatly debated about
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whether Secretary Clinton should have gone tostates like Michigan and Wisconsin and possibly did
not do enough in those states inthe waning days of the campaign. All
I'm saying is a lot has happenedin the past two or three weeks which
has fundamentally changed our perception of wherethis race is and why it is where
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it is. We don't know whatthe next week will bring. We couldn't
predict Saturday, we couldn't predict thedebate. We definitely can't predict next week.
We can't predict next month and soforth. If you were to ask
me the election today, if wewere to go to the polls today.
Most likely Donald Trump wins the electionin the landslide, But so would have
Hubert Humphrey in nineteen sixty eight,after not one but two assassinations, because
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you had the assassination of doctor Kingin April of sixty eight, and you
had Robert F. Kennedy the assassinationof him in June of sixty eight.
In July, most people thought thatHubert Humphrey would have won the election because
Humphrey was running on the platform tofurther extend the civil rights agenda of John
F. Kennedy preceding him, andRobert F. Kennedy would have done had
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he been the nominee and then elected. The thinking was that there was too
much sentimentality on the side of theDemocrats for Republicans to win, and the
Republicans still won in a landslide.If the past is prologue. If anything,
you can't be too complacent Republicans.If you think it's already in the
bag. Hillary Clinton thought it wasalready in the bag. Hubert Humphrey thought
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it was already in the bag,and it didn't turn out that way.
Why Because something could always change thetrajectory of the race in the coming months.
It's later with Moe Kelly. We'recontinuing to monitor the RNC. There
are various people who are giving speechesoffering their support for former President Trump and
also Senator jd Vance, who's beenpicked as the official vice presidential candidate.
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If either former President Trump or SenatorVance, who is slated to speak tonight,
if and when either or both shouldspeak, will have their addresses live
for you Kerry six Live everywhere onthe iHeartRadio app. And the Teamster's President
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Sean O'Brien is right now speaking atthe RNC addressing former President Trump, who
looks on. We are monitoring theevents in Milwaukee, and if and when
either former President Trump or Senator jdVance, who was announced today as the
vice presidential candidate on the ticket,if either or both should speak, we'll
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have them live. We're trying tofigure out right now if there is a
specific slated time for the vice presidentialcandidate Senator Vance, when he would speak,
Customarily you would have the top ofthe ticket introduced the bottom of the
ticket. So that's why we're expectingboth of them to approach the microphone this
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evening. We don't know how that'sgoing to go, because the schedule of
the RNC, I'm quite sure,has been burned upside down because of the
events of Saturday and the assassination attempton the life of former President Trump.
So we are following along as youwere following along. If you're worried about
possibly missing either or both of theirspeeches, be sure that KFI will have
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them whenever they are and they'll bringthem to you live. So we are
continuing to monitor what is going onin Milwaukee at the RNC. Also other
news which broke today in relation tothat Judge Aileen Cannon in the classified documents
case in Florida. She dismissed thecase to make a long story short,
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saying the appointment of Jack Smith asspecial counsel was unconstitutional. I'm not a
lawyer, I'm just playing one onthe radio, so I'm not going to
get into the weeds of the legalese. But I can tell you this,
this was not unexpected. You cansay the timing was fortuitous because it's on
the first day of the RNC andliterally hours after the assassination attempt. So
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within a political context, it wasperfect timing for Donald Trump. But longview,
this is something I would say thatyou should expect and has already happened.
Jack Smith has filed an appeal.It will go to the Eleventh Circuit,
and if we use the history asa guide, the Eleventh Circuit will
probably be more amenable to Jack Smiththan Alien Cannon. But in the short
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term, because it has been dismissedand because the appeal could take anywhere from
weeks or months, this guarantees thatthis case would not be heard, regardless
of whoever the presiding judge would be. I would expect that Jack Smith will
also put an emotion to have Cannonremove from the case and have someone else
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preside over it. All that wouldtake months, and we'd be well into
twenty twenty five, and the nextpresident, be it Joe Biden or Donald
Trump, would have the final sayof what happened to any federal investigation.
But in terms of what's important toDonald Trump in the short term, it
was mission accomplished where at the minimum, at the minimum, the case would
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not be heard before the election,and if Donald Trump should be elected as
the forty seventh president, then hecould summarily dismantle not only this investigation but
the January sixth investigation in Washington,d c. In which Judge Tomy Tchutkin
would preside over. It would haveno bearing on any type of appeal.
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In regard to the Trump Corporation casein New York, which is a state
case, then obviously there is nofederal recourse there. You can't pardon himself.
He can't make that case go away. It's going to have to run
his course. But there is aquestion and emotion before the court regarding presidential
immunity in that case, whether eventhough these were actions which were taking place
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before he was inaugurated as president,when he was a private citizen, there's
a question of whether some evidence wasused during the adjudication of the case which
had to do with actions taking whilehe was president, and whether there should
be a mistrial or retrial granted,or motion the verdict being set aside.
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So all that is going to beadjudicated as well. But they are different
considerations which have to be made.But all in all, it was a
very positive day for the political prospectsof Donald Trump, and a lot of
this has to do with optics.The optics and momentum are more times than
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not felt they aren't real, butthey're felt. You generate momentum by things
happening in a row. If youlook at the presidential debate, what happened
with Joe Biden, you look atthe infighting of the Democrats in the days
and weeks after that. If youlook at although horrible the presidential assassination attempt,
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the imagery which came out of it, the fact that he was scarred
but not seriously injured is positive.The imagery which came out of it,
the fact that it happened just daysbefore the RNC and you start the RNC,
and you also have the dismissal ofthe classified documents case. All those
things together it's a good political momentfor him in generating momentum. But again
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I said, this is July.Who knows what happens a week from now,
a month from now, you know, two months from now. We
all know that this election has changedconsiderably as far as momentum in just two
weeks, and it could swing inthe other direction. And there's also something
else which is working to the benefitof Donald Trump in this particular moment,
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since there has been this call forunity, and if you didn't know historically
when one party has had their convention. The other party stands down. The
other party is not campaigning actively.They're not out on the campaign trail.
They're not showing their customary ads.You're not doing the retail politics. You're
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not trying to suck up the airout of the room and steal the thunder
of the other party during their convention. That's customary. But since there's also
been this call for unity and changein rhetoric, the Biden campaign has been
forced most likely to not only stopthe ads that they were going to run,
but they'd have to change their wholead strategy. They have to change
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their whole messaging platform. They haveto change how they're going to approach former
President Trump. As far as quoteunquote attack ads going forward, you can't
have the same type of rhetoric.You can't have the same type of verbiage,
you can't have the same type ofvitriol. You have to approach it
very differently. I suspect that PresidentBiden will have ads which will hew more
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closely to touting his successes quote unquoteas president, the legislation he got passed,
things that he was able to accomplishas president, how he wants to
finish the job and do more interms of the economy in any supposed second
administration or second term. Those arewhat are the things that will be prominently
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featured in the ads. And itwill be a completely different look, a
completely different sound, and completely differentstrategy because of the events on Saturday.
And oh yeah, by the way, the Democrats aren't even unified as far
as Joe Biden being their candidate.Now. I know, in terms of
the party he is the presumptive nominee. But if you have members of Congress
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Democratic members of Congress both anonymously andpublicly saying that they want Joe Biden to
step aside, that type of acrimonywithin the party still has to be addressed.
It's still an issue. They havetime to address it. But again,
I don't know if it's a problemthat has a good solution. The
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Democrats are going to have to choosethe best of bad options to maneuver this
moment, and it could all changein a moment, as we saw on
Saturday. But right now everything ispointing in the direction of former President Donald
Trump. It's later with mo Kellycan if I am six forty live everywhere
on the iHeartRadio app. We're continuingto monitor the RNC in the event that
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either former President Trump or Senator Vanceshould come to the microphone and address the
convention, and we'll bring that toyou live. You're listening to Later with
Mo Kelly on demand from KFI AMsix forty, and we're continuing to monitor
the RNC. Former President Trump isin the House with his first public appearance
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since the assassination attempt on his life. Right now, they are reintroducing both
Senator Vance and President Trump to theRNC crowd to applause. I don't get
the sense that either of them willbe formally addressing the crowd tonight. They
are in what seems to be thefront row of the convention VIP attendees,
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but I don't get the sense thateither is preparing for remarks. They are
just being acknowledged. Will continue tofollow this make sure you don't miss anything.
But relative to either Donald Trump orJD. Vance speaking, it doesn't
seem like either. We'll be takingthe dais at this point or at least
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on this evening, but will continueto monitor just in case you won't miss
any of it if they should.But I did want to spend this last
segment as we close out the hourtalking about the significance of Senator Vance and
what he does or does not bringto the ticket. At the risk of
over analysis, JD. Vancy's thirtynine years old. He in the Senate,
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first time term senator. He willbe replaced in the Senate at the
discretion of the Ohio governor, RepublicanOhio Governor Mike DeWine, So he will
be able to be replaced in theSenate, so the Republicans do not lose
the seat. They're not risking aseat in that regard. But you have
JD. Vance who is young enoughto be able to depends on how they
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utilize him. He's young enough tobe able to talk to a younger demographic.
He's able to identify possibly with thoseindividuals that I guess Donald Trump may
not be able to identify with ormay not have the same type of connection
with just from an age standpoint,and also JD. Vance, I would
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say, is Trump is in twopoint zero. He understands how Donald Trum
works, He understands his message.He can articulate that particular message. As
I watch Donald Trump, He's nowwalking downstairs to the convention floor. He's
waving to the crowd, and theRNC has officially wrapped up its first night
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of the convention, so neither willbe speaking tonight, but they are taking
this moment to move through the crowd. They may do some interviews. I
suspect he's shaking hands with various members, various convention delegates, saying hello.
Obviously, Secret Service is very closeto him right about now, in a
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way that they weren't two days ago. I think that's noticeable and also notable
as they talk about other people infront of him, actually at all sides
around him. Senator Vance is notin view at the moment, but I
would imagine he's somewhat close by doingthe same thing as they call it,
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glad handing and shaking hands of people. He's not doing any selfies, but
people are taking pictures of him,but not with him. And this is
not uncommon as far as political conventions. It is a pep rally. It's
a three to four day pep rallywhere you're unifying the party behind the ticket.
And now former President Trump has leftthe venue, they are formally bringing
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to a close the nights of excuseme, the events of the night.
And let me get back to SenatorVance very quickly before we go to break.
There are some strategic I would saypluses and adding jdvans I was talking
about how his age would be aplus as far as the different age demographic
that he can reach in electoral politics. It's also good because if you look
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at the history of the electoral College, the states Florida and Ohio, at
least in the past thirty years,have loom large. Those are the states
that you gotta have to win.You have to win one of them.
You want to win both of them, especially you want to win Ohio.
And if you have someone from thatstate, it makes campaigning in it,
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it makes a turning that state,in this case flipping it for the Republicans
a much easier task. It's lessof a heavier lift. You go back
to al Gore in two thousand andhe could not even bring home his home
state of Tennessee. And if youwould have at least won Tennessee the Democrats
win in two thousand and al Gorewould have been president and we wouldn't even
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had to even have the discussion ofhanging chads in Florida. So these types
of decisions are very important, regardlessof whether you think that former President Trump
has a big lead in a pollingsense or not. You want to make
sure that you have the best opportunityto do well in states like Florida and
also Ohio. And since Donald Trumpnow claims Florida as his home state and
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you have Senator Vance with Ohio,you can see the strategy coming into play.
Again, it's not determinative, butyou can see how, at least
from a campaign strategy, since youyou can see how they're trying to line
up certain states where if it's veryclose on election night, you have a
better chance of winning Florida, whichI think is more red than purple,
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and an Ohio, which has beenpurple in previous presidential elections. It's later
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KFI AM six forty we're alive everywhereon the iHeartRadio app have to jump in.
As former President Trump is now gettingready to come to the stage.
We go right now to Milwaukee andthe RNC Convention. As the former president
approaches the stage, he's now shakinghands with various members of his family.
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Congressman Byron Douglas, his son DonaldTrump Junior. JD. Vance is in
the front row with Speak of theHouse Mike Johnson. Also see Tiffany Trump,
somebody who tried to kill him.You will not take this man down.
He has the courage, the strength, and he will be the next
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president of the United States. Tothe Hill. Okay, he seems to
be stopping in the first row,and the audience at the RNC is acknowledging
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his presence. He has not officiallyapproached the stage, and we will continue
to monitor when he is going togive official remarks. We know that he's
going to formally announce JD. Vance, Senator Vance, who is standing right
next to him and also alongside Speakof the House Mike Johnson's going to formally
announce and acknowledge that Senator Vance ishis vice presidential candidate, and we know
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that he'll Senator Vance will have remarks, and we don't know how long the
former president is expected to speak,but we know that he will speak.
He's there in his customary red tie, white shirt, and dark blue jacket.
He has a prominent bandage over hisright ear. His neck seems a
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bit stiff. As far as howhe moves, he's not moving naturally and
normally when he tries to turn andacknowledge the crowd. But he is I
would say about in the front rowof the delegation, the convention delegation.
As he looks on he's speaking topeople around him. We're listening, obviously
to Lean Greenwood. I guess acknowledgethe moment and sing his song that he
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usually uses for the entrance of thepresident. So we're continuing to monitor that,
monitor that, and if the formerpresident should approach the podium or Senator
JD. Vance should approach the podium, we will have their remarks to you.
And I know that was an abruptintroduction to the show tonight, but
that's kind of where we needed tostart anyway, and that's where I am
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going to start. I was speakingwith the Fork reporter Neil Savagra, talking
about how I happened upon what happenedSaturday, just doing my normal monitoring of
political events. If the President shouldspeak Joe Biden, I usually tune in
just for information's sake, because Imay be called upon to give commentary for
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the BBC or Spectrum News. Andon this occasion on Saturday, I was
listening to former President Trump speak viathe Newsmax app in the car, so
I couldn't see anything which was happening, but I was listening. And if
you didn't hear what I was sayingto Neil Savadra, it was early on
in the speech, as we allknow, didn't even really get good into
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it when I heard the pop poppop sound and I immediately because we talk
about it here on the show,the difference between fireworks and gunshots, and
to me, it's immediately signified gunshots. It sounded, it had that cadence,
it had that rhythm of gunshots,and I pulled over because the speech
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obviously immediately stopped. I couldn't seewhat was going I didn't know. I
could hear a bit of what theSecret Service was saying, but I didn't
see it, and I pulled overbecause on my phone, I could pull
up a television app and then Icould see what was going on and get
some live, real time idea ofwhat was happening. And then we know,
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as they say, the rest ishistory. But I wanted to start
there talking about history, talking aboutwhere nineteen sixty eight has long been used
as the analog for right now.People want to compare this moment to nineteen
sixty eight. Nineteen sixty eight wasthe assassination of Robert F. Kennedy,
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it was assassination of Reverend doctor MartinLuther King Junior. And people compare that
year, even before Saturday, compareit to twenty twenty four, talking about
the discord, talking about the rhetoric, talking about the unsettled nature of the
United States, the acrimony. Therewere riots back in nineteen sixty eight,
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there were protests anti Vietnam War protests. America was a very conflicted and a
place was full of upheaval. Thatwas nineteen sixty eight. There are a
lot of similarities to twenty twenty fourand now with the assassination attempt of Donald
Trump here in twenty twenty four,it seems more and more like it.
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And that's gonna be my starting point. We've heard President Biden talk about the
call for unity. We've heard offormer President Trump as far as his truth
social post, calling for unit.Just let me just skip to the end.
It is not going to be that. It is not going to have
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unity. We're not going to haveunity in this country. As far as
the rhetoric, we've had ample opportunitiesto tone down the rhetoric. We have
never made any attempt at toning downthe rhetoric. And here's what I mean.
We can go back to a Congresswoman, Gabby Giffords, who was shot
in the head. There was noattempt to tone down the rhetoric. After
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that, we had the congressional softballgame shooting Steve's Galise, Congressman Steve's Galise
was shot and injured. There wasno real effort to tone down the rhetoric.
After that, there was the Januarysixth, No members of Congress were
harmed, no harm came to VicePresident Pence, but also no effort was
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made to tone down the rhetoric.We know what happened when the husband of
former Speaker Nancy Pelosi was attacked.Paul Pelosi hit in the head with the
hammer. We saw pretty much whathappened on video, and in response,
we had some cable news hosts makingjokes about it, talking about how it
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was some sort of gay conspiracy.But another way, we didn't make any
real effort to tone down the rhetoricand now this so it's reasonable from where
I sit to make the assumption thatwe're not going to make any real effort
to change direction. And maybe,and I want to be very careful about
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how I say this, maybe it'sbecause we've never had to deal with the
full weight of the consequences of ourrhetorical action. Let me give you an
example. I had mentioned Congresswoman GabbyGiffords, even though she was shot in
the head, thank goodness, shesurvived. Even though Congressman steve's Galise was
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shot, I believe in the hiphe survived. Even though there was plenty
of violence on January sixth, Andthere was an officer who died due to
health related reasons after January sixth,and also Ashley Babbitt was shot and killed.
There was not the weight of whatcould have happened. It did not
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happen on January sixth, and weknow with Paul Pelosi, even though he
was hitting a head with a hammer, he survived. The point I'm making
is that because of all these incidentsnot leading to the ultimate consequences, I
believe has given us a false senseof security, or it has told us
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wrongly that we didn't have to changedirection. And it might be some of
that, it might be all ofthat. We did not make any real
effort to change direction. And herewe are, And here's something else I've
noticed about America in this moment.And let me back up and say this.
If you're just now talking about politicalrhetoric, if you're just now concerned,
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if you're just now outraged, ifyou're just now saying we need to
make a change because of what happenedon Saturday, it's hard for me to
take you seriously because a lot hasbeen happening leading up to right now.
We didn't get here Friday night,because each time one of these incidents has
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taken place, I've said it everysingle time. I've said it when we
had the dear missus, I've saidit when we've been able to stop someone
in the formulation of these instants.When talking about Governor Gretchen Whitmer and the
plot to kidnap her, I saidit every single time we were going down
this path, And it only takesone idiot. Those are the words that
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I use. It only takes oneidiot. And on Saturday we saw one
idiot. Congress this woman Gabby Giffordsencountered that one idiot. The congressional softball
game encountered that one idiot. Januarysixth, Well, there were a bunch
of vidiots that day, but itonly takes one idiot for all of this
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to go really bad, really quickly. So I don't believe that America is
actually about the business of toning downthe rhetoric. I believe we're more concerned
with trying to blame someone, andwe only want to blame someone when the
person or the party we care aboutgets hurt. And until we start caring
about all Americans, until we startreally caring about violence, until we really
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start caring about gun violence. Youknow what happened on Saturday. Gun culture
went gun culture. And nobody shouldbe surprised. We have been approaching this
moment for quite some time. OnSaturday, it happened to be directed at
former President Trump, but it's notthe only time. It's just the latest
time, and there's going to benext time unless we change our rhetorical direction.
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It's Later with mo Kelly. We'recontinuing to monitor the RNC. Former
President Trump is now in the conventioncenter, sitting alongside Congressman Byron Donalds and
also Senator jd Vance, who weassume that he will introduce later on as
his official vice presidential pick, andwe will have each or both of their
remarks as they come to the podiumlive. You're listening to Later with Moe
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Kelly on demand from KFI AM sixforty. We are monitoring the RNC in
Milwaukee, Wisconsin, and right nowon the stage is rapper and influencer and
I think that's a generous read.That's what they have on the chiron a
Lease. Amber Rose is speaking beforethe RNC. And if you don't know
who Amber Rose is, that's quiteunderstandable. She is not significant in political
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circles. She is known in hiphop circles and stripper circles. That's all
I can say. That's what she'sknown for. But she's right now at
the RNC addressing the crowd. Thereason I mentioned that is because we're waiting
for either JD. Vance, SenatorAdvance of Ohio to speak. He has
been publicly named as the vice presidentialpick for Donald Trump. The second portion
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of the ticket. We're gonna waitfor him to speak and or former President
Trump to speak. Customarily, youwill have the top of the ticket introduce
the bottom of the ticket, andthe bottom of the ticket will speak at
the convention. So everyone is inthe house. The former president is there,
Senator Vance is there. We don'tknow the order of the program in
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that regard, but if and wheneither or both speak, will bring that
to you live. You need notworry about missing it. But let me
get back to what I was sayingtalking about Saturday, putting it in historical
context. There was something else Iwanted to say. When I finally got
to see some of the video ofwhat transpired Saturday, of the assassination attempt,
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I know that you're no different thanme. We have we have all
sorts of questions about why something didhappen, why something did not happen,
why something was not secured, whysomething was allowed to happen, How did
this person get here, how didthis person scale the side of a building
with a rifle and no one stophim. Why was there not someone on
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top of the building, you know, with with oversight, you know overview
excuse me, overwatch position and havingdirect line of sight to the former president?
How does that happen? Why didit happen? Whose responsibility was it?
Was it Secret Service? Was itlocal law enforcement? Was it something
that was handed off by secret Service? I would say, all those are
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reasonable questions. All those are legitimatequestions. All those are legitimate questions which
rightfully demand answers. This is myonly admonition to you. Don't try to
use your imagination and your political worldviewto fill in those blanks. Don't say,
well, how did this happen?It must be because it was all
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stage, or how did this happen? It must have been because that this
is all a ruse, or JoeBiden ordered this. That's just you using
your imagination to fill in the blanks. You're going to get a lot of
these answers. You may not likethe answers, but you will get the
answers. We know that President Bidenhas asked for an independent formal investigation.
We know that Speaker of the HouseMike Jansen Johnson has called for a congressional
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investigation. It may not happen immediately, but we know that it is going
to happen, and we know thatthe Secret Service will have to answer for
what did and did not transpire onSaturday. And I will tell you,
like I told all my friends andfamily and people who I may interact with
on social media, don't say somethingstupid on social media and get your ass
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fired. Don't do it. Iknow that you want to have a hot
take, you want to say this, you want to be funny, you
want to post the memes and everything, but just know people are watching people.
This is a very serious moment.Excuse me, should be a very
serious moment. But we are anun serious nation. We are an un
serious country. If you think aboutwhat has been transpiring the last six or
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seven years, how we've been respondingto it. I mean the people that
we look to for political endorsements,the type of rhetoric that we've been employing.
It has been an un serious marchthrough history. Now, there are
some serious moments. Saturday was extremelyserious. And also let me say this.
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I know I'm jumping around, butthere are a lot of fuss that
I've had about this moment, notonly in America, but what happened on
Saturday. I know Republicans and Trump'ssupporters are probably clicking their heels, thinking
that, oh, the elections inthe bag. Is it's a done deal.
We don't have to worry about it. Trump's going to be the next
president. And that may be,that may be. Everything which has happened
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in the past few days points inthat direction. But I would caution you,
and I'm going to use history asa guide and a comparison point.
I would not confuse momentum with anoutcome. In twenty sixteen, Secretary Hillary
Clinton was ahead in the polls mostof the way, even with the FBI
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investigation which was opened by James Comyand then closed and then opened to close
whatever. Right before the election,she was still leading in the polls.
And I believe looking back, mostDemocrats were complacent. Most Democrats did,
There's no way this guy is goingto beat Hillary Clinton. And then reality
happened. There's some parallels here,because this is July. Let me just
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take you back three weeks, justthree weeks, three weeks ago, no
one could have foreseen what was goingto transpire at that presidential debate. Nobody,
absolutely nobody. People were tuning into see what was going to happen,
but no one could predict the flameout of Joe Biden in that way.
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Because President Biden had asked for thedebate. He basically said, I'm
don't I want you to meet meon this day in this place, and
we're gonna rhetorically duke it out onstage for all the world to see.
And it didn't go the way thatI'm quite sure he wanted it to go.
No one predicted that, and thenit sent the Democratic Party and the
race into a spiral because no oneexpected it. No one knew how to
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respond to that. The Democrats didn'tknow how to respond to it. I
think even former President Trump was like, damn, I didn't expect him to
be that easy, and he eventook a step back and said less and
let the Democrats hurt themselves. Thatwas a few weeks ago. Then we
moved forward and we have what happenedthis last Saturday with the assassination attempt,
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and that throws another monkey wrench intowhat we thought this election was going to
be. And if you want,you can even throw in the dismissal of
the classified documents case by Judge AileenCannon. Today. These are all unforeseen
circumstances, but they're not determinative,and I'll tell you why. And again
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I started with talking about nineteen sixtyeight. I'm gonna use nineteen sixty eight
again as a comparison point. Innineteen sixty eight, if you don't know
your history, that was a yearin which Robert F. Kennedy was assassinated.
We're talking about the second Kennedy tobe assassinated in a five year span.
We're talking about in America who wasalready emotionally on the side of the
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Kennedys and the Democrats. And whenRFK was killed, the Democrats in a
presidential election sense, they were upabout five to six points when July of
nineteen sixty eight. There's some parallelshere, and the reason that they were
up is because the feeling, thesentiment, and also, I will say,
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the sympathy for the Kennedy family.Most people thought it was a foregone
conclusion that whoever was going to bethe Democratic candidate was going to be the
president. It turned out to bethen Vice President Hubert Humphrey, and up
until maybe October, Humphrey was leadingin the polls. If you know how
the election turned out, he wastrounced, not I mean, he barely
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beat segregationist candidate George Wallace, whocleaned up the southern states. All I'm
saying is July doesn't determine what happensin November. And if we use what
happened in twenty sixteen and a lessonfrom the Democrats, I believe the Democrats
took their feet off the gas.And we know it's been greatly debated about
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whether Secretary Clinton should have gone tostates like Michigan and Wisconsin and possibly did
not do enough in those states inthe waning days of the campaign. All
I'm saying is a lot has happenedin the past two or three weeks which
has fundamentally changed our perception of wherethis race is and why it is where
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it is. We don't know whatthe next week will bring. We couldn't
predict Saturday, we couldn't predict thedebate. We definitely can't predict next week.
We can't predict next month and soforth. If you were to ask
me the election today, if wewere to go to the polls today.
Most likely Donald Trump wins the electionin the landslide, But so would have
Hubert Humphrey in nineteen sixty eight,after not one but two assassinations, because
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you had the assassination of doctor Kingin April of sixty eight, and you
had Robert F. Kennedy the assassinationof him in June of sixty eight.
In July, most people thought thatHubert Humphrey would have won the election because
Humphrey was running on the platform tofurther extend the civil rights agenda of John
F. Kennedy preceding him, andRobert F. Kennedy would have done had
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he been the nominee and then elected. The thinking was that there was too
much sentimentality on the side of theDemocrats for Republicans to win, and the
Republicans still won in a landslide.If the past is prologue. If anything,
you can't be too complacent Republicans.If you think it's already in the
bag. Hillary Clinton thought it wasalready in the bag. Hubert Humphrey thought
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it was already in the bag,and it didn't turn out that way.
Why Because something could always change thetrajectory of the race in the coming months.
It's later with Moe Kelly. We'recontinuing to monitor the RNC. There
are various people who are giving speechesoffering their support for former President Trump and
also Senator jd Vance, who's beenpicked as the official vice presidential candidate.
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If either former President Trump or SenatorVance, who is slated to speak tonight,
if and when either or both shouldspeak, will have their addresses live
for you Kerry six Live everywhere onthe iHeartRadio app. And the Teamster's President
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Sean O'Brien is right now speaking atthe RNC addressing former President Trump, who
looks on. We are monitoring theevents in Milwaukee, and if and when
either former President Trump or Senator jdVance, who was announced today as the
vice presidential candidate on the ticket,if either or both should speak, we'll
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have them live. We're trying tofigure out right now if there is a
specific slated time for the vice presidentialcandidate Senator Vance, when he would speak,
Customarily you would have the top ofthe ticket introduced the bottom of the
ticket. So that's why we're expectingboth of them to approach the microphone this
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evening. We don't know how that'sgoing to go, because the schedule of
the RNC, I'm quite sure,has been burned upside down because of the
events of Saturday and the assassination attempton the life of former President Trump.
So we are following along as youwere following along. If you're worried about
possibly missing either or both of theirspeeches, be sure that KFI will have
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them whenever they are and they'll bringthem to you live. So we are
continuing to monitor what is going onin Milwaukee at the RNC. Also other
news which broke today in relation tothat Judge Aileen Cannon in the classified documents
case in Florida. She dismissed thecase to make a long story short,
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saying the appointment of Jack Smith asspecial counsel was unconstitutional. I'm not a
lawyer, I'm just playing one onthe radio, so I'm not going to
get into the weeds of the legalese. But I can tell you this,
this was not unexpected. You cansay the timing was fortuitous because it's on
the first day of the RNC andliterally hours after the assassination attempt. So
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within a political context, it wasperfect timing for Donald Trump. But longview,
this is something I would say thatyou should expect and has already happened.
Jack Smith has filed an appeal.It will go to the Eleventh Circuit,
and if we use the history asa guide, the Eleventh Circuit will
probably be more amenable to Jack Smiththan Alien Cannon. But in the short
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term, because it has been dismissedand because the appeal could take anywhere from
weeks or months, this guarantees thatthis case would not be heard, regardless
of whoever the presiding judge would be. I would expect that Jack Smith will
also put an emotion to have Cannonremove from the case and have someone else
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preside over it. All that wouldtake months, and we'd be well into
twenty twenty five, and the nextpresident, be it Joe Biden or Donald
Trump, would have the final sayof what happened to any federal investigation.
But in terms of what's important toDonald Trump in the short term, it
was mission accomplished where at the minimum, at the minimum, the case would
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not be heard before the election,and if Donald Trump should be elected as
the forty seventh president, then hecould summarily dismantle not only this investigation but
the January sixth investigation in Washington,d c. In which Judge Tomy Tchutkin
would preside over. It would haveno bearing on any type of appeal.
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In regard to the Trump Corporation casein New York, which is a state
case, then obviously there is nofederal recourse there. You can't pardon himself.
He can't make that case go away. It's going to have to run
his course. But there is aquestion and emotion before the court regarding presidential
immunity in that case, whether eventhough these were actions which were taking place
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before he was inaugurated as president,when he was a private citizen, there's
a question of whether some evidence wasused during the adjudication of the case which
had to do with actions taking whilehe was president, and whether there should
be a mistrial or retrial granted,or motion the verdict being set aside.
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So all that is going to beadjudicated as well. But they are different
considerations which have to be made.But all in all, it was a
very positive day for the political prospectsof Donald Trump, and a lot of
this has to do with optics.The optics and momentum are more times than
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not felt they aren't real, butthey're felt. You generate momentum by things
happening in a row. If youlook at the presidential debate, what happened
with Joe Biden, you look atthe infighting of the Democrats in the days
and weeks after that. If youlook at although horrible the presidential assassination attempt,
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the imagery which came out of it, the fact that he was scarred
but not seriously injured is positive.The imagery which came out of it,
the fact that it happened just daysbefore the RNC and you start the RNC,
and you also have the dismissal ofthe classified documents case. All those
things together it's a good political momentfor him in generating momentum. But again
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I said, this is July.Who knows what happens a week from now,
a month from now, you know, two months from now. We
all know that this election has changedconsiderably as far as momentum in just two
weeks, and it could swing inthe other direction. And there's also something
else which is working to the benefitof Donald Trump in this particular moment,
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since there has been this call forunity, and if you didn't know historically
when one party has had their convention. The other party stands down. The
other party is not campaigning actively.They're not out on the campaign trail.
They're not showing their customary ads.You're not doing the retail politics. You're
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not trying to suck up the airout of the room and steal the thunder
of the other party during their convention. That's customary. But since there's also
been this call for unity and changein rhetoric, the Biden campaign has been
forced most likely to not only stopthe ads that they were going to run,
but they'd have to change their wholead strategy. They have to change
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their whole messaging platform. They haveto change how they're going to approach former
President Trump. As far as quoteunquote attack ads going forward, you can't
have the same type of rhetoric.You can't have the same type of verbiage,
you can't have the same type ofvitriol. You have to approach it
very differently. I suspect that PresidentBiden will have ads which will hew more
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closely to touting his successes quote unquoteas president, the legislation he got passed,
things that he was able to accomplishas president, how he wants to
finish the job and do more interms of the economy in any supposed second
administration or second term. Those arewhat are the things that will be prominently
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featured in the ads. And itwill be a completely different look, a
completely different sound, and completely differentstrategy because of the events on Saturday.
And oh yeah, by the way, the Democrats aren't even unified as far
as Joe Biden being their candidate.Now. I know, in terms of
the party he is the presumptive nominee. But if you have members of Congress
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Democratic members of Congress both anonymously andpublicly saying that they want Joe Biden to
step aside, that type of acrimonywithin the party still has to be addressed.
It's still an issue. They havetime to address it. But again,
I don't know if it's a problemthat has a good solution. The
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Democrats are going to have to choosethe best of bad options to maneuver this
moment, and it could all changein a moment, as we saw on
Saturday. But right now everything ispointing in the direction of former President Donald
Trump. It's later with mo Kellycan if I am six forty live everywhere
on the iHeartRadio app. We're continuingto monitor the RNC in the event that
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either former President Trump or Senator Vanceshould come to the microphone and address the
convention, and we'll bring that toyou live. You're listening to Later with
Mo Kelly on demand from KFI AMsix forty, and we're continuing to monitor
the RNC. Former President Trump isin the House with his first public appearance
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since the assassination attempt on his life. Right now, they are reintroducing both
Senator Vance and President Trump to theRNC crowd to applause. I don't get
the sense that either of them willbe formally addressing the crowd tonight. They
are in what seems to be thefront row of the convention VIP attendees,
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but I don't get the sense thateither is preparing for remarks. They are
just being acknowledged. Will continue tofollow this make sure you don't miss anything.
But relative to either Donald Trump orJD. Vance speaking, it doesn't
seem like either. We'll be takingthe dais at this point or at least
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on this evening, but will continueto monitor just in case you won't miss
any of it if they should.But I did want to spend this last
segment as we close out the hourtalking about the significance of Senator Vance and
what he does or does not bringto the ticket. At the risk of
over analysis, JD. Vancy's thirtynine years old. He in the Senate,
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first time term senator. He willbe replaced in the Senate at the
discretion of the Ohio governor, RepublicanOhio Governor Mike DeWine, So he will
be able to be replaced in theSenate, so the Republicans do not lose
the seat. They're not risking aseat in that regard. But you have
JD. Vance who is young enoughto be able to depends on how they
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utilize him. He's young enough tobe able to talk to a younger demographic.
He's able to identify possibly with thoseindividuals that I guess Donald Trump may
not be able to identify with ormay not have the same type of connection
with just from an age standpoint,and also JD. Vance, I would
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say, is Trump is in twopoint zero. He understands how Donald Trum
works, He understands his message.He can articulate that particular message. As
I watch Donald Trump, He's nowwalking downstairs to the convention floor. He's
waving to the crowd, and theRNC has officially wrapped up its first night
(33:15):
of the convention, so neither willbe speaking tonight, but they are taking
this moment to move through the crowd. They may do some interviews. I
suspect he's shaking hands with various members, various convention delegates, saying hello.
Obviously, Secret Service is very closeto him right about now, in a
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way that they weren't two days ago. I think that's noticeable and also notable
as they talk about other people infront of him, actually at all sides
around him. Senator Vance is notin view at the moment, but I
would imagine he's somewhat close by doingthe same thing as they call it,
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glad handing and shaking hands of people. He's not doing any selfies, but
people are taking pictures of him,but not with him. And this is
not uncommon as far as political conventions. It is a pep rally. It's
a three to four day pep rallywhere you're unifying the party behind the ticket.
And now former President Trump has leftthe venue, they are formally bringing
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to a close the nights of excuseme, the events of the night.
And let me get back to SenatorVance very quickly before we go to break.
There are some strategic I would saypluses and adding jdvans I was talking
about how his age would be aplus as far as the different age demographic
that he can reach in electoral politics. It's also good because if you look
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at the history of the electoral College, the states Florida and Ohio, at
least in the past thirty years,have loom large. Those are the states
that you gotta have to win.You have to win one of them.
You want to win both of them, especially you want to win Ohio.
And if you have someone from thatstate, it makes campaigning in it,
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it makes a turning that state,in this case flipping it for the Republicans
a much easier task. It's lessof a heavier lift. You go back
to al Gore in two thousand andhe could not even bring home his home
state of Tennessee. And if youwould have at least won Tennessee the Democrats
win in two thousand and al Gorewould have been president and we wouldn't even
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had to even have the discussion ofhanging chads in Florida. So these types
of decisions are very important, regardlessof whether you think that former President Trump
has a big lead in a pollingsense or not. You want to make
sure that you have the best opportunityto do well in states like Florida and
also Ohio. And since Donald Trumpnow claims Florida as his home state and
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you have Senator Vance with Ohio,you can see the strategy coming into play.
Again, it's not determinative, butyou can see how, at least
from a campaign strategy, since youyou can see how they're trying to line
up certain states where if it's veryclose on election night, you have a
better chance of winning Florida, whichI think is more red than purple,
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and an Ohio, which has beenpurple in previous presidential elections. It's later
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