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June 12, 2026 32 mins

Becerra v Hilton... Two enter, one with an albatross named Trump around his neck.

Switzerland is considering capping their population as a means of combating immigration.

Why has the USA always sucked at soccer? Maybe because we're the only ones calling it that...

Microshifting is a thing... Handel is doing it right now in his chair...

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're list Saints kf I AM six forty the bill
Handles show on demand on the iHeartRadio f.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
KFI AM six forty.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
Bill Handle here Friday morning, June twelfth, and before I
jump into the Governor's race, and what's going to happen
here in California?

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Quick word?

Speaker 3 (00:22):
About a week from tomorrow. It's the La Lawyers phil
Philharmonic celebrating two hundred and fifty years of America. It's
at the Walt Disney Concert Hall Saturday night, June twentieth,
and I will be am seeing it as I do
every year. And if you think I make an ass
out of myself here on the show, just come to

(00:44):
the concert. These are lawyers, judges, people in the legal
profession that are actually involved in this orchestra. And these
are world class musicians, by the way, who actually decided
they were going to make a living practicing law as
opposed to being a musician. And so it is a
it's a fun concert. I'm am seeing it. Gary Green,

(01:06):
a working lawyer, is the founder and conductor. And there
is a guy one man who sings, Michael Maguire, the
only lawyer who's won a Tony Award. Nice combination. Huh.
As he wins a case against you, he sings, boy,

(01:27):
what a voice. So anyway, it's a great, great night.
And also there is a chorus legal voices, and so
join up.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
And here's what you do.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
Concert tickets go from twenty dollars to one hundred and
thirty five, half of which is deductible, and go to
La Lawyersphil dot org. That's La Lawyers Phil as in
Philharmonic La Lawyersphil dot org. And I hope to see
you there because it is great fun. Okay, Now we
have the November election coming down in California. Has two people,

(02:00):
the top two vote getters in the primary go to
the general election.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Notwithstanding the parties.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
It can be two Democrats, it can be two Republicans,
and in this case it is a Republican and a Democrat,
which is kind of fun.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Xavier Xavier Bssera is Xavier.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
I don't know. I always mispronounced. That kind of throws
you off, it really does anyway. Javier Bassara, he is
an old politico and he was in the Biden administration. Also,
as of right now, he has fifty two percent versus
thirty one percent over Republican Steve Hilton. Of the two,
Steve Hilton is by far the most interesting. And because

(02:44):
we have partisanship big time, it's going to be a
classic partisan battle. And Democrats overwhelmingly back Bessera, Republicans overwhelmingly
back Hilton. That why, well, a couple of a couple
of reasons. First of all, Hilton's endorsement from President Trump,

(03:04):
who does it's not particularly impressive in the state of
California because Democrats are way way more were way way
more percentage wise than Republicans. And just and let me
give you an idea of this. You've got the vast

(03:25):
majority eighty something percent or ninety percent of Democrats backing Besserah,
the same thing I think in the eighties are backing Hilton.
So it's a Republican against Democrat. And look at how
many Democratic voters registered voters there are versus Republicans. So
what you have is the typical race. Now, a couple
of things that make Hilton so interesting. The guy is

(03:48):
a brit Or, was a brit and he was involved
in high end British politics, advisor to David Cameron and
helped get him elected. And then came the United S
s eight fourteen years ago and entered the United States,
in this case California politics as well as being an entrepreneur.
I mean, he's got an interesting background and he speaks

(04:09):
with a British accent. And are we gonna have a
governor that speaks with a British accent what we had
when they spoke with a German accent with Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Welcome to California.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
And Hilton is a true, tried and true believer in
being a US citizen in a Californian. He gave up
his British citizenship when he became an American citizen, and
he didn't have to do that. Today, dual citizenship is allowed.
For example, I have a dual citizenship. My parents didn't

(04:41):
because when they came to the United States in the fifties,
they didn't have to give up or they had to
give up their citizenship.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
So what is the big deal?

Speaker 3 (04:51):
Let's say the biggest deal not only the registered Democrats
versus registered Republicans, which the Democrats totally out to number
the Republicans in this state, but also President Trump's endorsement
in the primaries. President Trump's endorsement is not only influential.

(05:13):
It is wildly influential. And President Trump's endorsement in many
cases guarantees the nomination, and he got rid of and
was able to do so in the primary. Primaried out,
for example, two senators or a senator and a representative
who had been there for decades, who, but for the

(05:35):
President's endorsement of the other person, would have easily won
the election. Won the primary. President Trump has enormous influence
within his party. That's for the primaries. Now let's go
to the general. It's the other way around. The fact
that Hilton got President Trump's endorsement is going to kill him,

(06:01):
and you're going to see him distance himself.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
He has to.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
He has no choice if he has any chance of winning,
which he doesn't. But all things being equal, when you
look at any kind of traditional election here, and there's
a lot of traditional election moves that we're looking at,
certainly partisanship, Republican versus Democrat. And I've explained the difference
in the electorate. In the registered voters, Trump is as

(06:26):
unpopular a president as they come in the state of California,
and there are people that would go the other way
just because of the endorsement of Trump. That's how much
he has hated among Californias. So that's the big one.
I think also is the general California versus the Republican

(06:47):
conservative thinking. I mean, we're the most liberal state in
the Union, and we're number one in many ways social programs.
I'm so proud of him. The most tax state in
the United States. I'm most that among the worst education
in the United States. I'm very proud of that. Number
one medical care right there at the bottom. I'm very

(07:08):
proud of that, although they're all there at the bottom.
That we spend more money than any other state for
education per student, public education, and we're near the bottom
number one. That's California in many ways. But I'll tell
you it is liberal, liberal liberal. Our legislature, we have

(07:30):
a super majority in California. Democrats have a super majority.
There's no such thing as a veto in California. And
so when you have a democratic assemble, a Democratic Senate,
a democratic governor, guess what you get. Yep, if it
walks like a duck and it talks like a duck,

(07:53):
you've got.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
A very unusual duck on your hands.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
It becomes the AFLAC duck who actually talks, and that
made absolutely no sense at all, because I am the
maven of political analysis. All right, coming up, immigration issue.
It is all over the world now stopping immigration. I
mean it's not just the United States. This is a
worldwide phenomena. Let me tell you what Switzerland is proposing.

(08:21):
And no other country has come this far. And I'll
explain that coming up right here on KFI. KFI am
six forty bill handle. It is a Friday morning. A
lot going on today. The spacexipo released today. They figure
the company will be worth one point seven seven trillion dollars,
making Elon Musk the world's first trillionaire. And also the

(08:45):
World Cup in America at SOFI actually opens today where
the US is playing Paraguay or Paragay, Paragays, Paraguays. There's
two gay guys who play soccer against the American team.
I get a little confused as to who's actually playing. Okay,

(09:07):
a word or two about immigration. And if you haven't noticed,
oh boy, have you noticed that governments around the world
have turned right wing. And one of the things about
the right wing philosophy is immigration. That governments are also
saying too many people are coming into this country, and
we've been there too, but.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Also Italy and Switzerland.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
As a matter of fact, Switzerland has this proposal that
no other country has gone forward. So because of rising
living cost disillusion by unfulfilled economic and social promises. Sounds
like the US, doesn't it. The Swiss are literally at
the top of the heap of industrialized countries questioning the
benefits of immigration. Even the highly skilled workers that are

(09:54):
coming in. Ours are the H one B visa folks,
and on Saturday or Sunday they're going to vote a
referendum to put a hard ceiling on the population. Since
two thousand, the number of foreign born residents have jumped
from around one in five to one in three. In Zug,

(10:17):
which is a capital of Canton, which is basically a state,
the finance minister spent years rolling out the red carpet
for highly skilled foreigners. As we did well, they now
fill jobs, homes, public service or public tax office. And
because they're coming in, they create a demand for even
more workers to serve a bigger population. So it's the

(10:41):
no to a number to number ten Switzerland or no
to a number ten ten million. Sorry about that, Yeah,
let me rephrase no to a ten million Switzerland, and
this is from the right wing government that's now in place.
It aims to limit the permanent resident population, including both

(11:02):
foreign nationals and Swiss citizens, to below ten million inhabitants
of Switzerland until twenty twenty five. Right now it's nine
point one million. If it hits ten million, then population
stops right there. If it hits ten million, enter the

(11:25):
concept of soilent Green, which not only reduces the population,
but it helps with the food processing. By the way,
if you haven't seen Soilent Green, it's a fun movie
where people are turned into food, just to let you know.
And the vote is expected to be really close. I mean,
this is no joke. And so it has to do

(11:47):
with this whole philosophy of bringing in foreigners. Now, most
of this is the highly skilled, highly paid foreigners, usually
in the tech world, where there aren't enough Americans to
take those jobs.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
And this is the H ONEB visa.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
The US under Trump is really limiting those coming in,
even to the point where the government put a one
hundred thousand dollars fee on applications. Well that was overturned
by the court, but it's still several thousand, four or
five thousand dollars to bring one of these techno experts in.
Now the tech companies are saying, this is really going

(12:25):
to screw us up because we really don't have this
skills that these folks have. I mean, this is pretty
rarefied air. We're talking top of the heap kind of stuff,
not just general workers. And so what the Trump administration
is doing is limiting the number of workers coming in,
make it more difficult, try to make it more expensive,
say no, deny applications, deny asylum. As you know, and

(12:50):
the philosophy here is we don't want you if you're
a furner. We're not interested in having you come to
the United States under any circumstances.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
Well, you got Switzerland.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
That's taking it to another level, saying we're going to
cap our population. Now, they can't cap Swiss citizens because
anybody born in Switzerland, of course, is a citizen. Although
there are countries that don't even buy that America does. Right,
born in America, there's a citizen. Companies like countries like Kuwait,

(13:23):
for example, they don't care born there, not born there,
parents legal, not legal the United States. Is the argument
that Trump is using is that anybody born of illegal
immigrants coming into this country is not a citizen, and
that's going to go to the Supreme Court. Actually is
at the Supreme Court. But this is brand new with Switzerland,

(13:46):
and it's a way of dealing with it that I
think industrialized countries that are also dealing around the world
with immigrants is they're going to look at it limit
the population. And how do you do that, Well, you
limit the number of people coming in. And even with

(14:07):
the highly skilled, the law says that you first have
to look to Americans to do those jobs. And if
you can't find Americans to do those jobs, then you
can go out of country and bring in foreign experts,
actually foreign highly skilled individuals. And as I said, the

(14:27):
tech companies are very upset about this proposal because they
can't find Americans, and the administration in those that are
in favor of limiting those people coming in saying there
are plenty of Americans who can do those jobs. Well,
if that's true, then why bring in foreigners. Well, here's
the argument, because not only do they have people coming

(14:51):
in we have our pick, but they charge us a
lot less money. We can hire them for less money.
And immigration is becoming such a huge issue because the
number of immigrants going into industrialized worlds has exploded. It
has become a real issue. All right, coming up, why
we've never had a world class men's soccer star or

(15:14):
world class team, and there is a reason for that,
and I'll explain right after this.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty KFI AM six forty Bill Handle. Good morning, everybody.
It is a Friday boy. A lot going on today.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
The IPO aditial public offering of say Sex comes out
today and they're releasing it at one hundred and thirty
five dollars per share.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
That is what it's.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
Being released that we'll see what happens up down. That's
going to be news today. Seventy five billion dollars is
going to be offered to the public, but not really
the public is going to be institutional investors first. And
also so today is the first day of the American
involvement in the World Cup where the US is playing Paraguay. Now,

(16:09):
the US soccer, our whole environment is such that we've
never really produced a world class team.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
And look how many people we have. You know, we
have three hundred and forty million Americans.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
And you think that with all the kids now playing soccer,
soccer has become a big deal. I mean it used
to be where what's the soccer? Well that changed about
twenty twenty five years ago. But so we have a
generation of kids that are playing soccer. Why no world
class team? Why no world class superstars?

Speaker 2 (16:44):
How come?

Speaker 3 (16:46):
I mean, we have plenty of teams, we have plenty
of money that are going to the teams. We we've
reached a point where we have soccer moms, not baseball moms,
not football mom, soccer moms because the kids all are
playing soccer. So there is a convention, American Soccer Convention,

(17:10):
and it's the largest convention that we have. And here's
what is buzzing around. The US has never produced a
world class team. The US has never produced a world
class player. And why well, yeah, if you go there,
they are philosophies, methodologies that are being talked about, human

(17:34):
player development pathways, pyramids, the cost of playing soccer in America,
and just a bunch of ills. They're trying to figure out, Well,
here is the difference, and it's a big difference. And
that has to do with one word. One word that
describes all of the ills of soccer in the United States,

(17:59):
which were the only company calls it soccer because if
you think about it, they call it football around the
world because you play with your feet, not with your hands.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
Makes sense.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
But we already have a football, and it's a football,
even though it's not particularly feet oriented. Okay, so back
to the concept of culture. The reason that other countries
of the world have world class players and world class

(18:34):
teams is because of the fact that kids, basically from
the time they're toddlers, are playing soccer in these other countries.
They don't play American football, they don't play basketball, they
don't play baseball.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
They play soccer.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
And one of the reasons are that it's not expensive
to play soccer as a kid. It's like stick baseball
accepted stick football soccer with a ball.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
It's all you need one ball and now you have
a game. Uh.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
You don't do that with football, particularly because it's just
not And and this has to also do with poor communities,
the inner city.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
Uh. And uh, I'm gonna put a few pieces together here.

Speaker 4 (19:21):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
Why do Americans have.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
Basketball teams that know nobody in the world can touch
because kids start playing basketball at an insanely early age,
especially in the inner city. We don't uh, the inner
city does not produce world class lacrosse players for example, uh. Basketball, yes,

(19:46):
even baseball to some extent, but not soccer.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
It's just not part of our culture.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
So if you look at the countries that have these
world class players, superstars, which by the way, these guys
make hundreds of millions of do not just tens of
millions of dollars, hundreds of millions dollars each because basically
the entire rest of the world plays soccer, plays their football,
and so it's not unusual. For example, the finals of

(20:15):
the FIFA Games probably have a billion people that are
going to be watching it around the world. And so
it comes up from the time when these kids are
literally kids. They're playing from an age which is so small.
We don't do that here. We don't do that. They
don't play much football in the inner city. They don't

(20:39):
play a whole lot of baseball. They do play basketball,
and that comes from an early age. And around the
world they play soccer and they just grow up with it.
It's part and partial of their very culture, which is
why you have a lot of poor people making it.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
As world players.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
One of the greatest players in the world, Pele, who
was born right outside of San Paulo where I was born,
in a town called Santos, which is the port city
of Sampolo. Basically he started playing when he was three
years old and became probably one of the greatest players
in the world. And then you have Ronaldo and you

(21:23):
have Messi who are Argentinian, and the Argentinian and Spanish
for example. These guys are unbelievable. I'll tell you there's
a commonality across the board. Every single one of them
started virtually as a baby playing soccer.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
And we don't do that.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
And until we get that, until we get to the
point where soccer becomes our national sport, we're not going
to see the kind of players, the kind of teams.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
We have to adopt a more consistent soccer culture. Kids
don't really start soccer until they're older, and then you
have the coaches and then they're taught skills.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
But they're tought skills at age eight ten.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
And if you talk to the soccer players by the
time or the soccer coaches and experts by the time
you're ten, twelve, fourteen, even eight years old. If you
don't have the skills that have already been developed to learn,
to be good in soccer is very complicated, very difficult,
and you effectively need the kind of skills that come

(22:37):
into play.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
The analogy if you look at Formula one.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
Drivers, which by the way, very few Formula one drivers
come out of the inner city, where do they start.
They all start at go kart level, every one of them,
and then they move up. No one comes in at
ten or twelve, no one comes in at eighteen. So

(23:05):
the skill level comes early, the skill level that comes
by playing hours and hours and hours. Malcolm Gladwell talks
about ten thousand steps. These guys are one hundred thousand steps,
and by the time they're in any kind of a
minor league, they're already there, which is why you see

(23:29):
so many eighteen year olds be professionals. Sixteen year olds
are drafted into professional leagues.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
And they play.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
Another thing that happens in soccer around the world is
you have teenagers and they practice against professional players. That
is common and that certainly doesn't happen in any sport here.
And so until we turn into a soccer culture, which
I don't think we're going to I think it's going

(23:58):
to be a long long time until we become a
soccer culture. We're not going to have an easy time.
We'll see what happens. I mean, our team has gotten better,
but even to the point where Pelee the greatest, one
of the greatest players out of Brazil. They brought him
into New York to begin the American Soccer League for

(24:21):
the New York Cosmos and it didn't last very long.
So be prepared for the United States once again not
being anywhere near where we should be with a population
that is so high and so many, so great, and
so many millions of people that are playing.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Okay, coming up, micro shifting. What is that about? It
is how you work?

Speaker 4 (24:51):
No, you're doing the college student thing.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
Next? Oh am, I really yep?

Speaker 4 (24:59):
Oh, I'm sorry. I looked at the wrong time.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Oh wow, usually that's me machine screw. Oh calendar, this one,
Oh calendar made a mistake, shell cube blue. This one
that never happens. That's why I want you to calendar it.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
Okay, micro shifting and Michelle will explain to you exactly
what micro shifting is when we come back KF I
am six forty bill handle here. It is a Friday morning,
June twelfth. Boy, what a Friday too. So much is
going on. The IPO initial public offering of SpaceX is

(25:40):
out today. Initial prices. It opens one hundred and thirty
five dollars per share. We'll see what happens throughout the day.
Is going to open, is it going to go higher lower?
I mean, we don't know at this point, but it's
going to make a certainly Musk the first the world's
first trillionaire because he owns fifty percent of this puppy. Also,

(26:01):
the first game of the World Cup here in the
United States today at Sofi ask handle anything comes in
at eight thirty and the war is over again. Now,
the war in Iran has been over several times in
the last several weeks. A matter of fact, I believe

(26:22):
the war was over the first hour or two to
four weeks.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
It was supposed to be over.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
And as Marco Rubio said, the US controls the Strait
of Hormuz, not Iran. Okay, And so the president is announced,
we've come to terms, we have we've got the deal.
The only people that sort of disagree are the Iranians
that say, well, maybe we don't have a deal. So
we'll see over the weekend what's going to happen. In

(26:50):
the meantime, let me go into your workplace and a
couple of things have changed dramatically over the years. First
of all, it used to be I thought this was
going to have legs and that is a shorter work week,
longer hours, even with a forty hour work week, or
actually it'd be thirty six.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
That no, it'll be forty.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
The police and the fire department do three days at
twelve hours each, but the concept was four days at
ten hours per day. And that a lot of people
like that because first of all, absenteeism went way down,
three day weekend, more productivity and never caught on for
the most part. Now, how about remote learning. I mean

(27:34):
during the pandemic that exploded, that caught on big time.
And then there's all kinds of controversies about remote work,
and that is is it better?

Speaker 2 (27:46):
Is it not? People like it, and the.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
Employers are going, well, you know, we're going to let
people do it, but we want people back at the office.
At the same time, it's a good thing for employers
because if people are not back at the office, then
you don't need as big a footprint for the office
for people working there anyway, and so there's controversy. There's
something else that is happening, and this came out result.

(28:13):
It came out of remote working, and that is micro shifting. Now,
micro shifting is about doing your work in different segments
throughout the day. And the work experts are looking at
this because the argument among micro shifters, and that is
working a four hour shift or a five hour shift

(28:35):
and then doing nothing and then doing your errands or
relaxing or napping and coming back several hours later to
finish up your workday. And the argument here in studies
have shown this is the most productive time you have
is the first few hours. I was talking to Michelle,
and Michelle wakes up at the when she fills in

(28:57):
what she is doing this week. Usually the rest of
us have to wake up at the crack of the
middle of the night. And so I said to her,
I asked her, so at least you get to sleep
in in starting Monday, and I said what time you
normally wake up? She goes five five point fifteen, four fifteen,
four fifteen, and you don't have to come to work

(29:19):
until morning.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
And what was why would you do that?

Speaker 4 (29:23):
And you said, I, Well, it makes I get to
work by five thirty, and it's just easier to get
stuff done from earlier.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
In the day. That's the whole point of micro shifting.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
Now you don't micro shift because you get in earlier
the day and you still put it in your twelve
hour day.

Speaker 4 (29:39):
Yeah, like I work. I probably usually work normally like
five thirty to two thirty, but then I go home
and sometimes I do some short little shift at home. Okay,
updating the website or whatever.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
All right, So now people that work an eight hour day,
if you're not on salary here and they expect you
to work twenty hours a day for minimal wage, because
welcome to iHeart. The point is is that when you
do shift work all of a sudden, not all of
a sudden, but the productivity goes up. People like it

(30:11):
because you can pick up your kids from schools, spend time,
and then go back to work. A lot of people
take the afternoon off and then go back and then
spend time with the family in the evening, and that
is actually getting legs. And now we're going to see
this is anecdotal that it works so well for so

(30:33):
many people. Now we're going to look at studies and
they're going to look at productivity and that can be measured.
They're going to look at worker satisfaction that can be measured,
and they're going to see if it makes more sense.
Now we have a fair amount of controversy after looking

(30:53):
at what remote learning remote working does, and there's pros
and cons, but remote working is now part and parcel
of our lives, our employment lives. And we'll see what
happens with shifts. I micro shift here. I have a
full shift here. I work full time here at KFI

(31:16):
three hours, and I also work in eight minute segments.
So I micro shift eight minutes on, six minutes off, and.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
I do it for three hours. Yeah, don't you wish? Huh?
Now it took life there?

Speaker 1 (31:34):
You got it?

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Well, let me tell you it took me a long
time to get here.

Speaker 3 (31:38):
If you look at when I was practicing law, there
were eighty hour weeks.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Sometimes it was I paid my dues.

Speaker 4 (31:46):
But you are also getting like four hundred dollars an hour.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
Oh a lawyer?

Speaker 3 (31:52):
Are you crazy? You think I'd worked for only four
hundred dollars nuts? Okay, coming out California of students Michelle's
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