June 5, 2024 • 24 mins
When is it okay to pick your neighbors fruit? Dr. Jim Keany, Co-Director of the Emergency Room at Mission Hospital in Mission Viejo, joins The Bill Handel Show for 'Medical News'! Dr. Keany talks with Bill about body composition scans getting a better measure of your health, why drinking on a plane might be bad for your health, and a new skin cancer vaccine along with side effects and risks.
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You're listenings k p I AM sixforty the Bill Handle Show on demand on
the iHeartRadio app. You are listeningto the Bill Handle Show. Then one
day he was shooting as food andup to the ground, come Upulin Crew.
One of my favorite shows, BeverlyHillbillies. How stupid was that?
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Still enjoyed it when I was akid. All right, some of the
big stories. We're looking at BillHandle here on Wednesday morning with the Morning
Crew. Hunter. Biden's federal trialon fellony gun charges continues, and we're
gonna see that's gonna be a funwhen we look at this. Not as
much fun as the Donald Trump chargeon the hutch money trial, but still
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pretty good. And then a Boeingspacecraft carrying the two NASA astronaut astronauts now
on its way. Amy reported this, and Amy, you played the little
sound clip of taking off, andthen the spokesperson said three two one boom
and the spaceship carrying two heroes.You know, everybody's a hero. Have
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you noticed that you're latching onto aride on a spacecraft going to this and
you're a hero. I think they'reheroes. No, of course you do.
And how about everybody who serves inthe armed forces, they they they're
heroes. Even the guy who isa barber and cuts hair for people,
he is a hero. Okay,all I'm saying is maybe we've over overused
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that word. What do you think? All right? Now, here is
a case I want to share withyou, and this is a big one,
you know, An I got totell you this is so important,
this case that I think we havefour or five minutes left in the segment,
and I want to save it andgive it two segments, and we'll
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probably end up doing this tomorrow becauseit's that important. So what I'm going
to do is start my segment andtake it down to Jim Keeney at the
bottom of the hour. What whatthe hell is happening right now? What
do you mean? I was gonnado the oil industry case and I don't
have and I want to do twosegments on it, and I've got like
four minutes left in this segment.We just had a break. Why did
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we talk about this during the break? What you're talking about? Because because
we broadcast, that's what we letme explain how this works. We actually
work outside of the breaks. Yousee, it's it's called a radio show,
which means you have to like talkto people as opposed to talking within
the breaks. So what I'm sayingbehind the scenes is behind the scenes,
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yes, I'm making it worse.Okay, yeah you are. So what
I'm saying is this story about theSupreme Court and the oil industry is so
important legitimately that I'm gonna save itfor tomorrow when I do two segments.
So what I'm gonna do is doone point three segments on the next story.
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And the question which I've been askingfor a couple of days, I
was going to do this, whenis it okay to take fruit from your
neighbor's yards yard? Now we're nottalking about the gay party next door.
We are talking about literally picking fruitoff of trees or fruit that has fallen.
And the reason this story came upis this psychologist actually come up with
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this story and wrote an article inthe La Times and asked that question and
got eight hundred responses. And it'svery interesting is when people think it is
okay to pick fruit. This isbasically a handle on the lock question that
I'm going to ask all of youhere in the studio to respond and to
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jump in, is it ever okayto take someone else's fruit? And there
were eight hundred and fifty five replies. I mean, it's a lot,
most of which came back with yesit Well, maybe it really all depends
and what is what does it dependon? Well, if the fruit is
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close enough to be grabbed from apublic space, is that okay? Most
people said yeah, yeah, Butyou know what, I want to come
back and let's do this because Iwant to go and ask the crowd here
that question. So we're going tohave eight hundred and sixty responses or fifty
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nine responses, and we'll see it'sactually a fun story. There's a whole
world of legality to this, andthis is important. I mean, this
is very important. I was goingto do the Supreme Court case with the
fossil fuels industry, which is goingto affect every single one of us on
a scale that is biblical. Instead, I'm doing this very important legal question
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when is it okay to pick yourneighbor's fruit? And that's an important one.
And as someone who wrote about thisdid a survey a woman out of
the La Times, and that isthe question is when is it okay to
take fruit? From your neighbor's yards. And before I ask you guys,
I'm going to do a few minutesor a couple of minutes on the response,
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and then I'm going to ask youguys individually, you sitting here in
the studio okay. So here arethe answers. When is it okay?
Fifty percent said it's okay when thebranches are full of fruit and you can
get at them from any public place. I guess you can reach at them
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as long as your feet are onthe sidewalk. Almost fit. When branches
full of fruit are hanging in myyard, which is kind of interesting,
how can you not? Only fiftypercent of people said if there is a
branch hanging over in your yard,there's fruit, you pick it. Fifty
percent said it's okay. Thirty fourpercent when it's hanging in a public alleyway
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and easily accessible, okay, soit goes all right. That's thirty four
percent, And nineteen percent said never. Never. I mean, that's crazy.
The response that was the biggest percentagesaying it's okay is fallen fruit,
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especially if it's in your yard.Really, so half the respondents were okay
with picking up fruit lying in apublic street or even a gutter, but
most of them backed away from that, but back away from someone else's property,
even if it was easy to reachfrom the street. Now among the
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respondents said never, never, isit okay to pick fallen fruit, even
if it falls in a public street. Very few, Okay, However,
the best answer when asked why isfallen fruit has likely been peed on by
local dogs. That is a verygood answer. I out of any answer
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that I thought was gonna fall outof your mouth, that was not it.
I know. Sure makes sense tome. Sure makes sense to me.
So even fruit that is falling inyour yard, About half or over
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fifty percent said the best course ofactions to knock on the door next door
and ask the owner if you cantake that fruit. Seriously, here's what
happens when you knock on the doorasking if it's okay to take fruit that's
sort of hanging over the branches inyour yard. Is their owner. The
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owner of the house is scared todeath because they don't know you're coming and
knocking, and then they shoot you. And then you realize maybe it's not
worth it. Maybe I won't askfor permission with hanging fruit. Yeah,
and that actually is a percentage ofpeople that said that you don't knock on
neighbor's doors under any circumstances. Okay, So now I'm going around the room
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and we're going to add to thesurvey. Neil'll start with you. When
is it okay to pick fruit?And not? Okay? Well, Willie
Wolf, I go with if it'sif it's coming into your yard, absolutely,
because you could you're allowed a rimitryback if it's coming into your yard.
Yep, so I figure, youknow, and my wife when we
were dating, her parents had ayard with an avocado tree from the neighbor
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that came over. They actually havetheir own fruit pickers that they would pull
down the avocados from the tree.All right. Other way, that's the
majority of people, all right,all right, And when is it okay
to pick your neighbor's fruit? Always? Really always okay? Picking the fruit?
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Okay? Very strong sounds like,you know what, here's the thing.
They're not gonna eat it all.It's gonna that's right, They're not
going to eat it all because someof it under apples that are all right?
At the same time, all right, no, no, no,
they may what if they bottle apples. I don't know. Do you bottle
apples? I don't even know.I mean you make apple pie, you
can freeze them. I mean,I'm taking this all right, Amy.
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When is it okay to pick fruitfrom your neighbors or just off the street?
No? No, no neighbors fromneighbors. If the fruit is crossed
over onto your property, that's it. The fruit has crossed over. What
if you can reach it from youryard or from the sidewalk, I've not
done that. Yeah, I havewhat I have a lemon tree that goes
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over my neighbor's yard and we hada little conversation about it, and I
said, you touch those lemons,I'm going to kill you. Kno,
When is it okay to buy topick fruit from your neighbor? I think
as long as you don't have togo past a fence. Okay, my
yard, it's the front I'm takingyour fruit. That's the okay. That's
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another one. If it's in thefront yard and you don't actually go onto
their property, or you do andit's accessible, is it okay to pick
fruit off your neighbor's tree. Weinvited neighbors to do that work different,
that's inviting neighbors. They would not. I will tell you this though.
We called them ghetto fruit. Butthe quot the neighbors are the fruit.
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No, the low quats you seethem all over la. I think they're
like a Chinese pair or something.Those are No matter what, you can
hop a fence, you can doanything, because a low quots are kind
of city fruit. And you getthem from wherever you get them, okay,
and you can even get them fromnext door. By the way,
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I have planted castor bean plants inmy yard that are hanging over. Castor
bean plants are beautiful. And thoselittle castor beans, which I say,
they're delicious, completely poisonous and toxic. Did you know that. I don't
even know why it is legal toput castor bean plants on private property,
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but it's sure as hell is entertainingwhen someone eats them. You want that
in front of you, believe me. Is that where you get castor oil?
Yeah, but that's safe. That'sright. That's where they get castor
oil from the castor bean, andthe castor bean comes from the castor bean.
It's actually a bush. All right, We're done, guys. That
was good? All right? Now? Since it's Wednesday, and it's our
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last two segments. Bottom in thehour. Doctor Jim Keeney is with us,
as always our er specialists and medicalanalyst. Jim, Good morning,
morning Bill. Okay, no surprisehere, and of course you would expect
this, and that is, uha story about how people going to die
next week, how our listeners aregoing to be half half of them going
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to be dead. And this hasto do with skin cancer and going out
in the sun, getting melanoma andyou're dead. Uh So that's a regular
basis, however, and this isnew. There's a skin cancer vaccine.
Yeah. Wow, does it causeautism? Yeah? You're really stepping on
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some territory there. Yeah. Imean, you know, I've never I
have not heard about this. Hasthis just been FDA approved? And what
is going on? Because this isthis is research done at National Health Service
in the UK, so it hasnot come to the US yet. But
you know, as we know,melanoma is a dangerous in cancer that can
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start subtly and then start ptastasizing beforeit gets very large. So that's why
people often are found too late whereit's already been metastasized. But nowadays I
think especially in southern California where we'vegot a lot of sun, people are
aware of melanoma and are no longer. I don't see a lot of tanning
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booths anymore. With ultraviolet. Isee a lot more of the spray tan
places, which you know is betterfor your skin. As far as melanoma,
people with a family history of melanomafor sure, or some odd looking
moles, you know, should goget those checked. And if you if
you google the ad CD of melanoma, you'll see you know, nobody will
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remember all those now, but it'sthose are the different signs for melanoma.
But the bottom line is that thisnew research shows that when people are in
trouble with melanoma, there's you know, there's a drug you see the ads
on TV for Keytruda, and that'sa monoclonal antibody type treatment that seems to
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work really well for a group ofcancers. Of melanoma is one of them
where it can have some efficacy.And then using this kind of bespoke vaccine
where they take your melanoma and theyand they use its DNA to generate a
personalized vaccine, it increases the effectivenessof the chemotherapy agent by about fifty percent.
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Wow, we were getting close tothe magic bullet, aren't we in
terms of cancers, even though thereare so many different cancers, but they
all act effectively the same way interms of multiplying and doing what they do.
Yeah. I mean, honestly,we've been talking about the way that
a monoclonal antibody is like a keythat fits perfectly in a lock for like
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thirty years. I really thought wewere going to reach this point a lot
sooner than we have. I thinkthe mRNA vaccines are going to be helpful
because of the way it is likea box car on a train and it's
a delivery system, and so youcan fill that box car with you know,
just about anything you want, andso's they're able to reverse transcript aise
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these DNAs and then and then createwhat they need to put in a box
car and deliver it and create antibodiesin your body lit all that will identify
the cancer so that your killer Tcells can go in there and kill it.
Hey, let me ask you.You have a study that being done
in England and if it looks itlooks very promising. What is the timeline
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from there to me getting getting thedoctor to give me a shot, because
I'm a big fan of vaccines tobegin with. Well, I think Merks
put out that it's going to besometime in early twenty twenty five. Wow,
they believe that they'll have it readyand available. So I mean,
if they're doing it in the UK, I would imagine that they could start,
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you know, stage three trials herein the United States soon and you
know, and they may actually alreadybeen started. Actually meant to search and
see if there's any studies going onright now. I haven't got a chance,
and so there may be states goingon right now. But Murk is
saying sometime in early twenty twenty five. It's pretty impressive. I mean,
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we're getting and would you take thevaccine? No, it's well, so
it's not a vaccine like you're thinkingof. You get it before you have
a disease. Okay, this isafter you get it. You get melanoma,
and then this immunization or this vaccinationamplifies your immune system so that the
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monoclonal anibodies work back on it.So it's fair to say this is not
asking people to go out and getmelanoma and then become a vaccinated You just
want to stop it from the beginning. I guess exactly. Okay, there
you are. This is right now, it's only being it's working in the
worst cases. Right. They're takingpeople with metastatic advanced stage melanoma and it's
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improving the outcome by fifty percent.That's impressible. Yeah, it's impressive.
But at the same time, itdoesn't generalize necessarily yet across somebody who's had
a melanoma, had it removed andnow they have no problems. Will we
give those people this particular vaccine.Well, if there's no chemotherapy, we're
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trying to amplify. There isn't atherapeutic process yet that that's been approved or
that works. All right, Jim, this is going to be a little
convoluted, but I'm still going toshare with you. I do commercials for
West Medical for bariatric surgery, andI had bariatric surgery. I went in,
as you've heard me say, Iwas north of three hundred pounds and
everybody's seen pictures of that. Andone of the big things when you're going
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in is bm I body mass index, and that's how they measure how fat
you are, and the consumption isthat the bigger the bm I, the
less healthy you are, and theyconnect the two inextricably. You know.
For example, when I went inbought, my BMI was ninety three,
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which is kind of big, straightfaced Jim, Yeah, Okay, that's
a big that's a big BMI.That's a big BMI. What if you're
over what thirty, you're considered obese, and over thirty five or thirty eight
you're morbidly obese. So let's let'stalk about not using bm I so much
anymore and connecting BMI directly to health. That's what they did, and then
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maybe off on that, Jim,you want to comment, well, yeah,
I mean for us, BMI iskind of a standard, so we
can justify, you know, asdoing something extreme, like like the surgery
that you had. It's extreme becauseas you were in an extreme situation and
it had and it's a highly effectiveway to deal with your extreme situation.
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The problem is, so first ofall, we started with weight, right,
people focused on weight. I weighninety five pounds, I weigh one
hundred and ninety five pounds, Iweigh three hundred ninety five pounds. Those
can all be you know, maybenot the three ninety five, but for
people there could be normal weights atall of those, and all of those
could be abnormal weights for people eitherover or under. So the problem with
weight is people focus on that numbertoo much and it created a problem.
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So in came BMI, which isa body mass index. It kind of
takes into account your height and otherfat and basically that way it allows for
that and it kind of even thingsout a little bit. But there's still
a problem with that is that certainpeople's body types just have you know,
carry more weight, and it doesn'tmean they're less healthy, especially athletes,
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because BMI doesn't differentiate between muscle andfat. So then in game things like
like your body composition. So nowthere's a lot of different ways you can
do body composition. The easiest wayis the impedance method, and you might
have seen that in your gym.Typically it's a scale you stand on that
has metal contacts on the scale andyou may have other things you grab with
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your hands or some don't, andthen they can tell you your body composition
based on that. Now you knowyour percentage of fat and your percentage of
muscle, and I mean the bottomline is that for any individual person,
you are what you are. Youcan't compare yourself to somebody else who has
a different body type. And thegoal is to over time, if you
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know your body composition, would beto increase your muscle mass and decrease your
fat mass. If you are onthe higher BMI side, it doesn't necessarily
mean you have to, but inthe end you may end up having the
same BMI, but you are becauseyou're losing fat and you're gaining muscle.
Your BMI won't change, but you'rehealthier. All right. Well, let
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me have this because there was aperiod of time I don't even know if
they're around, but some incredibly fatladies who came up with this group saying
we're fat but fit and just saidsociety is dead wrong. Is that possible
to be one hundred and one hundredand twenty one hundred and twenty pounds overweight
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and still be considered fit? Yeah, I mean, I don't know about
the extremes, right, So ifyou're two hundred pounds overweight, you're probably
not super fit, right, ButI mean you look at some of those
football linemen, man, they arethey're definitely got a lot of body fat
on them, but you know theycould. They're also extremely fit, so
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you know, it depends on yourdefinition of fitness, depends on your definition
of health, right, and what'shealthy is a different story. So if
you're overweight but you still can run, you know, ten miles a day,
and you know, maybe you aremore healthy than people who are that
same weight or sedentary. It's reallya big picture issue. And that's why
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we don't want to get focused onweight number of weight. So then we
talked about BMI. We don't wantto get focused on BMI either, because
again we bring in athletes and Ialways think of Strina Williams. She's probably
the most famous athlete who has broughtup the fact that she is a big
girl and she is extremely fit andextremely healthy. Right, all right,
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Jim, thank you always, goodstuff, Have a good day. We'll
catch you next Wednesday. All right, take care, all right, We
are done. Everybody another day gonestart again tomorrow morning. Wake up call
with Amy and Neil. Well,Cono's always there, he's there from midnight
on, so Neil doesn't Cono doesaccount. So Neil and I joined the
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show at six o'clock and we're doneabout now, Neil, I know,
Oh you're filling in for Oh,yes, keep on forgetting. You won't
interrupt me. You will and youshould. Neil is filling in for Tim
Conway Junior tonight. Yes, Iwill be there, A B square,
a ding and a dong. Yeah, Dan, you know, I don't
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know why you do this, Neil, and didn't push me. I mean
he kept on reminding me during thebreaks, which of course I always forget.
But I'm gonna this is your bad. I'm gonna hold you. What's
name of the show. I don'teven remember now, it's the Bill Handles
Show. Oh yeah, okay,all right, we're not and you are
Bill Handle. All right, Neilwill catch you tomorrow, except you are
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tonight on KFI filling in for TimConway. It's a big it's a busy
day for you. It's a busyday for you. He's on from four
to seven o'clock. All right,everybody, catch you tomorrow KFI AM six
forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. You've been listening to the Bill Handle
Show. Catch my show Monday Friday, six am to nine am and anytime
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on demand on the iHeartRadio app.
You're listenings k p I AM sixforty the Bill Handle Show on demand on
the iHeartRadio app. You are listeningto the Bill Handle Show. Then one
day he was shooting as food andup to the ground, come Upulin Crew.
One of my favorite shows, BeverlyHillbillies. How stupid was that?
(00:21):
Still enjoyed it when I was akid. All right, some of the
big stories. We're looking at BillHandle here on Wednesday morning with the Morning
Crew. Hunter. Biden's federal trialon fellony gun charges continues, and we're
gonna see that's gonna be a funwhen we look at this. Not as
much fun as the Donald Trump chargeon the hutch money trial, but still
(00:44):
pretty good. And then a Boeingspacecraft carrying the two NASA astronaut astronauts now
on its way. Amy reported this, and Amy, you played the little
sound clip of taking off, andthen the spokesperson said three two one boom
and the spaceship carrying two heroes.You know, everybody's a hero. Have
(01:07):
you noticed that you're latching onto aride on a spacecraft going to this and
you're a hero. I think they'reheroes. No, of course you do.
And how about everybody who serves inthe armed forces, they they they're
heroes. Even the guy who isa barber and cuts hair for people,
he is a hero. Okay,all I'm saying is maybe we've over overused
(01:30):
that word. What do you think? All right? Now, here is
a case I want to share withyou, and this is a big one,
you know, An I got totell you this is so important,
this case that I think we havefour or five minutes left in the segment,
and I want to save it andgive it two segments, and we'll
(01:51):
probably end up doing this tomorrow becauseit's that important. So what I'm going
to do is start my segment andtake it down to Jim Keeney at the
bottom of the hour. What whatthe hell is happening right now? What
do you mean? I was gonnado the oil industry case and I don't
have and I want to do twosegments on it, and I've got like
four minutes left in this segment.We just had a break. Why did
(02:15):
we talk about this during the break? What you're talking about? Because because
we broadcast, that's what we letme explain how this works. We actually
work outside of the breaks. Yousee, it's it's called a radio show,
which means you have to like talkto people as opposed to talking within
the breaks. So what I'm sayingbehind the scenes is behind the scenes,
(02:37):
yes, I'm making it worse.Okay, yeah you are. So what
I'm saying is this story about theSupreme Court and the oil industry is so
important legitimately that I'm gonna save itfor tomorrow when I do two segments.
So what I'm gonna do is doone point three segments on the next story.
(02:58):
And the question which I've been askingfor a couple of days, I
was going to do this, whenis it okay to take fruit from your
neighbor's yards yard? Now we're nottalking about the gay party next door.
We are talking about literally picking fruitoff of trees or fruit that has fallen.
And the reason this story came upis this psychologist actually come up with
(03:23):
this story and wrote an article inthe La Times and asked that question and
got eight hundred responses. And it'svery interesting is when people think it is
okay to pick fruit. This isbasically a handle on the lock question that
I'm going to ask all of youhere in the studio to respond and to
(03:46):
jump in, is it ever okayto take someone else's fruit? And there
were eight hundred and fifty five replies. I mean, it's a lot,
most of which came back with yesit Well, maybe it really all depends
and what is what does it dependon? Well, if the fruit is
(04:11):
close enough to be grabbed from apublic space, is that okay? Most
people said yeah, yeah, Butyou know what, I want to come
back and let's do this because Iwant to go and ask the crowd here
that question. So we're going tohave eight hundred and sixty responses or fifty
(04:35):
nine responses, and we'll see it'sactually a fun story. There's a whole
world of legality to this, andthis is important. I mean, this
is very important. I was goingto do the Supreme Court case with the
fossil fuels industry, which is goingto affect every single one of us on
a scale that is biblical. Instead, I'm doing this very important legal question
(05:00):
when is it okay to pick yourneighbor's fruit? And that's an important one.
And as someone who wrote about thisdid a survey a woman out of
the La Times, and that isthe question is when is it okay to
take fruit? From your neighbor's yards. And before I ask you guys,
I'm going to do a few minutesor a couple of minutes on the response,
(05:24):
and then I'm going to ask youguys individually, you sitting here in
the studio okay. So here arethe answers. When is it okay?
Fifty percent said it's okay when thebranches are full of fruit and you can
get at them from any public place. I guess you can reach at them
(05:45):
as long as your feet are onthe sidewalk. Almost fit. When branches
full of fruit are hanging in myyard, which is kind of interesting,
how can you not? Only fiftypercent of people said if there is a
branch hanging over in your yard,there's fruit, you pick it. Fifty
percent said it's okay. Thirty fourpercent when it's hanging in a public alleyway
(06:08):
and easily accessible, okay, soit goes all right. That's thirty four
percent, And nineteen percent said never. Never. I mean, that's crazy.
The response that was the biggest percentagesaying it's okay is fallen fruit,
(06:32):
especially if it's in your yard.Really, so half the respondents were okay
with picking up fruit lying in apublic street or even a gutter, but
most of them backed away from that, but back away from someone else's property,
even if it was easy to reachfrom the street. Now among the
(06:53):
respondents said never, never, isit okay to pick fallen fruit, even
if it falls in a public street. Very few, Okay, However,
the best answer when asked why isfallen fruit has likely been peed on by
local dogs. That is a verygood answer. I out of any answer
(07:17):
that I thought was gonna fall outof your mouth, that was not it.
I know. Sure makes sense tome. Sure makes sense to me.
So even fruit that is falling inyour yard, About half or over
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fifty percent said the best course ofactions to knock on the door next door
and ask the owner if you cantake that fruit. Seriously, here's what
happens when you knock on the doorasking if it's okay to take fruit that's
sort of hanging over the branches inyour yard. Is their owner. The
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owner of the house is scared todeath because they don't know you're coming and
knocking, and then they shoot you. And then you realize maybe it's not
worth it. Maybe I won't askfor permission with hanging fruit. Yeah,
and that actually is a percentage ofpeople that said that you don't knock on
neighbor's doors under any circumstances. Okay, So now I'm going around the room
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and we're going to add to thesurvey. Neil'll start with you. When
is it okay to pick fruit?And not? Okay? Well, Willie
Wolf, I go with if it'sif it's coming into your yard, absolutely,
because you could you're allowed a rimitryback if it's coming into your yard.
Yep, so I figure, youknow, and my wife when we
were dating, her parents had ayard with an avocado tree from the neighbor
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that came over. They actually havetheir own fruit pickers that they would pull
down the avocados from the tree.All right. Other way, that's the
majority of people, all right,all right, And when is it okay
to pick your neighbor's fruit? Always? Really always okay? Picking the fruit?
(09:16):
Okay? Very strong sounds like,you know what, here's the thing.
They're not gonna eat it all.It's gonna that's right, They're not
going to eat it all because someof it under apples that are all right?
At the same time, all right, no, no, no,
they may what if they bottle apples. I don't know. Do you bottle
apples? I don't even know.I mean you make apple pie, you
can freeze them. I mean,I'm taking this all right, Amy.
(09:39):
When is it okay to pick fruitfrom your neighbors or just off the street?
No? No, no neighbors fromneighbors. If the fruit is crossed
over onto your property, that's it. The fruit has crossed over. What
if you can reach it from youryard or from the sidewalk, I've not
done that. Yeah, I havewhat I have a lemon tree that goes
(10:01):
over my neighbor's yard and we hada little conversation about it, and I
said, you touch those lemons,I'm going to kill you. Kno,
When is it okay to buy topick fruit from your neighbor? I think
as long as you don't have togo past a fence. Okay, my
yard, it's the front I'm takingyour fruit. That's the okay. That's
(10:22):
another one. If it's in thefront yard and you don't actually go onto
their property, or you do andit's accessible, is it okay to pick
fruit off your neighbor's tree. Weinvited neighbors to do that work different,
that's inviting neighbors. They would not. I will tell you this though.
We called them ghetto fruit. Butthe quot the neighbors are the fruit.
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No, the low quats you seethem all over la. I think they're
like a Chinese pair or something.Those are No matter what, you can
hop a fence, you can doanything, because a low quots are kind
of city fruit. And you getthem from wherever you get them, okay,
and you can even get them fromnext door. By the way,
(11:07):
I have planted castor bean plants inmy yard that are hanging over. Castor
bean plants are beautiful. And thoselittle castor beans, which I say,
they're delicious, completely poisonous and toxic. Did you know that. I don't
even know why it is legal toput castor bean plants on private property,
(11:30):
but it's sure as hell is entertainingwhen someone eats them. You want that
in front of you, believe me. Is that where you get castor oil?
Yeah, but that's safe. That'sright. That's where they get castor
oil from the castor bean, andthe castor bean comes from the castor bean.
It's actually a bush. All right, We're done, guys. That
was good? All right? Now? Since it's Wednesday, and it's our
(11:52):
last two segments. Bottom in thehour. Doctor Jim Keeney is with us,
as always our er specialists and medicalanalyst. Jim, Good morning,
morning Bill. Okay, no surprisehere, and of course you would expect
this, and that is, uha story about how people going to die
next week, how our listeners aregoing to be half half of them going
(12:13):
to be dead. And this hasto do with skin cancer and going out
in the sun, getting melanoma andyou're dead. Uh So that's a regular
basis, however, and this isnew. There's a skin cancer vaccine.
Yeah. Wow, does it causeautism? Yeah? You're really stepping on
(12:39):
some territory there. Yeah. Imean, you know, I've never I
have not heard about this. Hasthis just been FDA approved? And what
is going on? Because this isthis is research done at National Health Service
in the UK, so it hasnot come to the US yet. But
you know, as we know,melanoma is a dangerous in cancer that can
(13:03):
start subtly and then start ptastasizing beforeit gets very large. So that's why
people often are found too late whereit's already been metastasized. But nowadays I
think especially in southern California where we'vegot a lot of sun, people are
aware of melanoma and are no longer. I don't see a lot of tanning
(13:24):
booths anymore. With ultraviolet. Isee a lot more of the spray tan
places, which you know is betterfor your skin. As far as melanoma,
people with a family history of melanomafor sure, or some odd looking
moles, you know, should goget those checked. And if you if
you google the ad CD of melanoma, you'll see you know, nobody will
(13:45):
remember all those now, but it'sthose are the different signs for melanoma.
But the bottom line is that thisnew research shows that when people are in
trouble with melanoma, there's you know, there's a drug you see the ads
on TV for Keytruda, and that'sa monoclonal antibody type treatment that seems to
(14:07):
work really well for a group ofcancers. Of melanoma is one of them
where it can have some efficacy.And then using this kind of bespoke vaccine
where they take your melanoma and theyand they use its DNA to generate a
personalized vaccine, it increases the effectivenessof the chemotherapy agent by about fifty percent.
(14:31):
Wow, we were getting close tothe magic bullet, aren't we in
terms of cancers, even though thereare so many different cancers, but they
all act effectively the same way interms of multiplying and doing what they do.
Yeah. I mean, honestly,we've been talking about the way that
a monoclonal antibody is like a keythat fits perfectly in a lock for like
(14:54):
thirty years. I really thought wewere going to reach this point a lot
sooner than we have. I thinkthe mRNA vaccines are going to be helpful
because of the way it is likea box car on a train and it's
a delivery system, and so youcan fill that box car with you know,
just about anything you want, andso's they're able to reverse transcript aise
(15:18):
these DNAs and then and then createwhat they need to put in a box
car and deliver it and create antibodiesin your body lit all that will identify
the cancer so that your killer Tcells can go in there and kill it.
Hey, let me ask you.You have a study that being done
in England and if it looks itlooks very promising. What is the timeline
(15:43):
from there to me getting getting thedoctor to give me a shot, because
I'm a big fan of vaccines tobegin with. Well, I think Merks
put out that it's going to besometime in early twenty twenty five. Wow,
they believe that they'll have it readyand available. So I mean,
if they're doing it in the UK, I would imagine that they could start,
(16:07):
you know, stage three trials herein the United States soon and you
know, and they may actually alreadybeen started. Actually meant to search and
see if there's any studies going onright now. I haven't got a chance,
and so there may be states goingon right now. But Murk is
saying sometime in early twenty twenty five. It's pretty impressive. I mean,
(16:30):
we're getting and would you take thevaccine? No, it's well, so
it's not a vaccine like you're thinkingof. You get it before you have
a disease. Okay, this isafter you get it. You get melanoma,
and then this immunization or this vaccinationamplifies your immune system so that the
(16:51):
monoclonal anibodies work back on it.So it's fair to say this is not
asking people to go out and getmelanoma and then become a vaccinated You just
want to stop it from the beginning. I guess exactly. Okay, there
you are. This is right now, it's only being it's working in the
worst cases. Right. They're takingpeople with metastatic advanced stage melanoma and it's
(17:12):
improving the outcome by fifty percent.That's impressible. Yeah, it's impressive.
But at the same time, itdoesn't generalize necessarily yet across somebody who's had
a melanoma, had it removed andnow they have no problems. Will we
give those people this particular vaccine.Well, if there's no chemotherapy, we're
(17:32):
trying to amplify. There isn't atherapeutic process yet that that's been approved or
that works. All right, Jim, this is going to be a little
convoluted, but I'm still going toshare with you. I do commercials for
West Medical for bariatric surgery, andI had bariatric surgery. I went in,
as you've heard me say, Iwas north of three hundred pounds and
everybody's seen pictures of that. Andone of the big things when you're going
(17:56):
in is bm I body mass index, and that's how they measure how fat
you are, and the consumption isthat the bigger the bm I, the
less healthy you are, and theyconnect the two inextricably. You know.
For example, when I went inbought, my BMI was ninety three,
(18:18):
which is kind of big, straightfaced Jim, Yeah, Okay, that's
a big that's a big BMI.That's a big BMI. What if you're
over what thirty, you're considered obese, and over thirty five or thirty eight
you're morbidly obese. So let's let'stalk about not using bm I so much
anymore and connecting BMI directly to health. That's what they did, and then
(18:44):
maybe off on that, Jim,you want to comment, well, yeah,
I mean for us, BMI iskind of a standard, so we
can justify, you know, asdoing something extreme, like like the surgery
that you had. It's extreme becauseas you were in an extreme situation and
it had and it's a highly effectiveway to deal with your extreme situation.
(19:07):
The problem is, so first ofall, we started with weight, right,
people focused on weight. I weighninety five pounds, I weigh one
hundred and ninety five pounds, Iweigh three hundred ninety five pounds. Those
can all be you know, maybenot the three ninety five, but for
people there could be normal weights atall of those, and all of those
could be abnormal weights for people eitherover or under. So the problem with
weight is people focus on that numbertoo much and it created a problem.
(19:32):
So in came BMI, which isa body mass index. It kind of
takes into account your height and otherfat and basically that way it allows for
that and it kind of even thingsout a little bit. But there's still
a problem with that is that certainpeople's body types just have you know,
carry more weight, and it doesn'tmean they're less healthy, especially athletes,
(19:56):
because BMI doesn't differentiate between muscle andfat. So then in game things like
like your body composition. So nowthere's a lot of different ways you can
do body composition. The easiest wayis the impedance method, and you might
have seen that in your gym.Typically it's a scale you stand on that
has metal contacts on the scale andyou may have other things you grab with
(20:19):
your hands or some don't, andthen they can tell you your body composition
based on that. Now you knowyour percentage of fat and your percentage of
muscle, and I mean the bottomline is that for any individual person,
you are what you are. Youcan't compare yourself to somebody else who has
a different body type. And thegoal is to over time, if you
(20:41):
know your body composition, would beto increase your muscle mass and decrease your
fat mass. If you are onthe higher BMI side, it doesn't necessarily
mean you have to, but inthe end you may end up having the
same BMI, but you are becauseyou're losing fat and you're gaining muscle.
Your BMI won't change, but you'rehealthier. All right. Well, let
(21:03):
me have this because there was aperiod of time I don't even know if
they're around, but some incredibly fatladies who came up with this group saying
we're fat but fit and just saidsociety is dead wrong. Is that possible
to be one hundred and one hundredand twenty one hundred and twenty pounds overweight
(21:25):
and still be considered fit? Yeah, I mean, I don't know about
the extremes, right, So ifyou're two hundred pounds overweight, you're probably
not super fit, right, ButI mean you look at some of those
football linemen, man, they arethey're definitely got a lot of body fat
on them, but you know theycould. They're also extremely fit, so
(21:47):
you know, it depends on yourdefinition of fitness, depends on your definition
of health, right, and what'shealthy is a different story. So if
you're overweight but you still can run, you know, ten miles a day,
and you know, maybe you aremore healthy than people who are that
same weight or sedentary. It's reallya big picture issue. And that's why
(22:08):
we don't want to get focused onweight number of weight. So then we
talked about BMI. We don't wantto get focused on BMI either, because
again we bring in athletes and Ialways think of Strina Williams. She's probably
the most famous athlete who has broughtup the fact that she is a big
girl and she is extremely fit andextremely healthy. Right, all right,
(22:30):
Jim, thank you always, goodstuff, Have a good day. We'll
catch you next Wednesday. All right, take care, all right, We
are done. Everybody another day gonestart again tomorrow morning. Wake up call
with Amy and Neil. Well,Cono's always there, he's there from midnight
on, so Neil doesn't Cono doesaccount. So Neil and I joined the
(22:52):
show at six o'clock and we're doneabout now, Neil, I know,
Oh you're filling in for Oh,yes, keep on forgetting. You won't
interrupt me. You will and youshould. Neil is filling in for Tim
Conway Junior tonight. Yes, Iwill be there, A B square,
a ding and a dong. Yeah, Dan, you know, I don't
(23:15):
know why you do this, Neil, and didn't push me. I mean
he kept on reminding me during thebreaks, which of course I always forget.
But I'm gonna this is your bad. I'm gonna hold you. What's
name of the show. I don'teven remember now, it's the Bill Handles
Show. Oh yeah, okay,all right, we're not and you are
Bill Handle. All right, Neilwill catch you tomorrow, except you are
(23:38):
tonight on KFI filling in for TimConway. It's a big it's a busy
day for you. It's a busyday for you. He's on from four
to seven o'clock. All right,everybody, catch you tomorrow KFI AM six
forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. You've been listening to the Bill Handle
Show. Catch my show Monday Friday, six am to nine am and anytime
(24:03):
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