BHS - 8A – Sugar Addiction | ‘Do They Have a Case’ with Wayne Resnick

Sugar Addiction: A growing number of children are literally ‘addicted’ to ultra processed food. Employees are feeling ‘stuck’ in their jobs… and bosses are starting to worry. ‘Do They Have a Case’ with Wayne Resnick.

Episode Transcript

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You're listening to Bill Handle on demandfrom KFI AM six forty, and this
is KFI AM six forty Bill Handlehere. On Monday, July eighth,
Hurricane Barrel has made landfall in TexasCategory one, not good news for the
coastline. Fifteen inches of rain incertain places as well as a storm surge

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of up to seven feet. Alsoa quick reminder, if you want to
join Neil and I, we're goingto be the Anaheim White House this Sunday
celebrating Bastiele Day. And there's avery special French dinner as you can imagine
at the Anaheim White House, andwe're going to be there. And one
of the appetizer choices you have threeis it happens to be frog legs,

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which is actually very appropriate if youthink that one through. Okay, now
let's move on to matter of fact. Here is a food topic, and
that is sugary foods, which wetalked about many times, how horrible it
is. Neil has talked about iton the Fork Report heard two to five
o'clock on Saturdays here on KFI.And what the scientists who have really gone

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into this have said that there issomething legitimately called a food addiction, and
a growing number of children, moreand more are addicted to ultra processed foods.
We're talking fourteen percent of adults clinicallyaddicted to food coming in from childhood.

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Now, let me give you acomparison. Ten point five percent of
Americans twelve or older were diagnosed withalcohol addiction, fourteen percent with a sugar
addiction. And it gets worse.You grab it early on when the parents
give you all kinds of this sugarycrap and process foods, and it goes

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into adolescents where it gets worse.And the science behind it is ultra process
foods can hijack a young brains rewardcircuitry, putting the primitive reptilian brain,
which is what we share a loton the show, or the amygdala,
the amygdala, I guess in chargebypassing the prefrontal cortex. I know it's

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a little bit wonky here where rationaldecision making occurs, which of course doesn't
exist on this show because of ultraprocessed food. Maybe it has a lot
to do with frozen burritos at Costco, which is pretty ultra process to say
the least. And this is abouta lot of salt, a lot of

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sugar, which unfortunately poor people engagein more than people that are wealthier.
Because poor people inner city, variousminorities seeoeconomic neighborhoods well good quality, good
quality protein, and food is expensive. Fresh food is expensive where crap food

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is cheap, and crap food veryscientific. The way they serve you go
to a burger place, you goto one of the big ones McDonald or
Burger Kinge or whatever. That's scienceset work. The amount of sugar,
the amount of fat. I mean, this is real, real science where
you become addicted to that. Neil. You've talked about this before and they

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have developed this the optimum level ofsugar, salt, fat. So kids
are addicted. When you talk aboutI'm addicted to McDonald's, it's true,
you are. You know what's evencrazier than that is chips and other We
are not only addicted and have responsesto sugar, to fat, to salt,

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we also have responses to sounds.So they actually can tell by making
things a certain crispiness and the soundit makes when we crunch into a potato
chip, that we will respond tothe sound of the potato chip. We
respond to to the sensations of eating, you know, having a candy bar

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and going through the softness of thecaramel, to the kind of firmness of
the chocolate on the outside, tothe nuts and things, all of it.
It's not it's all the sensations thatthey play on, and there is
a massive science behind it. Andthis translates because it starts very early.
Kids five six, seven years oldbecome addicted fourteen percent by the time they're

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adults. I mean, you're not, but you're not a big sweet guy.
No, that's not yet. Myson is the same way. I'm
a safe I'm a savory guy.But it's processed. It's crap. I'd
much rather have a frozen burrito thaneven a fresh burrito at a good Mexican

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restaurant, which is a lot ofmoney. Yeah. Well, the sodium
in those and some of the preservativesare the things you're wrestling against, whereas
sugar, most of the sugar typeitems really have very little nutritional backing or
backbone at all. Yeah. Buthow many kids, well, let me
ask you this, how many kidsout there? And this is for parents,

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and when you had young kids andthey were fanatic about McDonald's at the
age of seven or eight, Let'sgo to McDonald's. They are addicted.
I mean, oh, that's oneof the biggest treats you can give a
kid, is McDonald's. An eventat McDonald's. Let's go to McDonald's.

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It's a reward. The hardest thingis fitting the little junior cheeseburgers into one
of those IV bags. Yeah,but they're able to do it. Okay,
Now people stuck in their jobs andbosses are starting to worry because they're
losing people who are stuck after abunch of years. And the white collar

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labor market is cooling right now.And it's said there's white collar versus blue
collar, which everybody knows excepting Yemen. There they differentiate white cholera versus blue
cholera. So what is going onin order to keep these strong people that
employers want to keep and they're juststuck in their jobs. Well, what

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they used to do is if youfelt stuck, you got promoted same job.
You now become a vice president incharge of the same job. You
didn't get another raise, that's forsure. And have they done this a
few times? Here? Oh,I don't know. Here at iHeart.
Do they ever do that? Well, you go to your bank. How

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many vice presidents? You think they'reat a bank? Half the people at
the branches are vice presidents. Well, that used to work, and it
doesn't anymore. So. Chief executiveof one of the big companies, Exact
Science actually and they make Colo Guard, which is a huge company. He

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talks about the good people he wantsto keep and the very best people.
They want new experiences, they wanta career path, they want to be
promoted. And so what are theydoing. They're allowing people, these high
end employees to switch jobs, togo to another job for a few months

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or a year, which seems tobe working, although I question this.
You have let's say someone has developedthe skill set that may take years,
and all of a sudden you sortof get bored. You've done it.
I mean, I've been doing thisshow for well this month, it's thirty

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one years. Do I want anotherjob? Am I bored? Well?
No, But wouldn't it be kindof fun for me to switch jobs,
for example, being a janitor foreight months? Okay, maybe not,
Neil, that was a bad analogy. But the point is is that people,

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especially in corporations, I mean,we're obviously outliers here, and there
are people that just absolutely love theirjobs, but those are relatively few and
far between. So the corporations areexperimenting. There is something called regrettable turnover
where people leave. People that thecompanies want to stay, want them to

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stay, they leave, and thatis a regrettable turnover. And here is
the issue. More and more peoplewant to switch jobs within a company because
they like the company, they're gettingpaid. There's little less room to move
around because people keep their jobs Now. It used to be and probably a

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couple of years ago, particularly intech, you could walk across the street
and get twenty percent more money,and then the first job offers you twenty
percent more money than that you walkback across the street, especially if you
are a high tech, highly skilledemployee. Well, those jobs are fewer

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and fewer that are available. ACompanysyncresy or Synchrony Financial twenty thousand people.
They experimented with job swaps within arange of departments, including tech, credit,
and finance. And at that company, employee in one role can switch
with a colleague elsewhere for as littleas ninety days to a year or more.

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And according to the CEO, Theseemployees are building a new skill set
and experience. I don't understand thatbecause the higher the skill level you have,
isn't the higher the training, thelonger it takes. And are you
actually going to move someone from financeto tech? And I guess the philosophy

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is that makes that person even moremore valuable if you have multiple skills.
Well, I think that's the casehere, Neil. Isn't it the more
skill set you have, the higherthe skill set, the more valuable you
are, and the chances of youbeing canned are less than you just have
one job. That's the philosophy.Well, that was the philosophy for a

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long time. But they're finding thatnewer jobs or newer mindset is that some
people that are, you know,busting their hump and doing all kinds of
things aren't necessarily getting rewarded for iteither. Yeah, but you know,
so that's when they leave. Iwas talking to you to my wife the
other day, who used to workat KFI, was a screener for you

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as well, and we were talkingabout how in the early days at KFI,
you had to do everything. Youhad to run a board, you
had to be able to screen.You had to be able you were part
of promotions even if you were,you know, a producer or something,
and that that made you the bestemployee possible. And so today you really

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do need simple a different skill set. You have to be able to run
a board. Uh, you haveto be able to be a producer.
You have to be able to dopromotions all at the exact same time.
And that takes a real skilled person. It's like a small town with the
judge, the justice of the peaceto the share for all the same Yeah,

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pretty much time for do they havea case with Wayne Resnick that we
do every single Monday. Wayne,good morning and let's get to work.
You got it. Now, thisincident was in the news back when it
happens now it's the subject of anappeals case. This guy and his fiance
and their baby pull into a stripmall here in La. Guy goes inside,

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then another guy comes in his cardouble parks behind them, gets out
forgot to set the parking brake.His car rolls hits the first car.
The first guy comes out and punchesthe second guy punches him and screams at

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him, my baby's in that car, how dare you? And the other
guy says, dude, I'll takecare of it. I eat insurance,
I have insurance. Nobody was hurt. So the second guy who got punched
gets in his car. He says, I don't want to fight, gets
in his car, drives away.They drive away. Two minutes later.
Guess what happens? Do you wantto guess what happens? On the road.

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Some road rage and one lens intothe other. Uh. Even worse,
the guy who got punched pulls upalongside the car with the guy who
punched him. Bang bang bang bangbang bang, And the guy who punched
him ends up dead at the hospital. So the cops come. They arrest

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mister shooter. He invokes his Mirandarights. I don't want to talk to
you without a lawyer, okay.So they put him in a jail cell,
and unbeknownst to the guy, theyalso put in the jail cell a
confidential informant pretending to be another inmate, and they get to talking and this

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sky says something. He denies thathe did the shooting, but he says
some things that orally only the personwho did the shooting could know, like
that the shooting took place two minutesafter the car bump in the strip mall,
or the fact that the shots werefired out of the left window not
the right window. So based onthis, and they get some forensic evidence,

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they get some ammunition that matches andstuff like that, and they put
him on trial and he says,you have to suppress what I said in
that jail cell because I had invokedby Miranda rights. And the judge says,
no, we don't, that's notwhat Miranda means. He gets convicted.
He appeals goes all the way upto the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals,

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and the basic argument that the governmenthas is that Miranda says you are
protected from coercion by police, whichit means you have to know their police,
because if you don't know, howcan you feel coerced if you don't

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know that you're talking to the police, And that it is not a violation
of Miranda to use subterfuge or trickery. Miranda protects you against coercion, not
trickery. And there is a SupremeCourt case that basically says that this guy

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says, well, somehow this isdifferent, is it? No, it
is not different, because invoking theMiranda rights is talking to authorities, and
I will not talk to you unlessI have a lawyer telling a sell me
what you've done or giving him informationis not protected, and trickery is absolutely

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allowed. Sitting in a jail cellor sitting in a in a room where
you're being interrogated with your buddy hasalready said that the two of you did
this, and he is flipping andyou're gonna get in trouble, and he
caught you in a lie, allof it made up by the cops,

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allowed under the law. So he'sgot no place to go. Yeah,
he lost at the local court,he lost at the California Supreme State Appeals
Court, he lost on a habeasat the federal district level, and he
loses at the Ninth Circuit. Yeah, forty years for a second degree murder.
Yeah. You can't shoot someone thatyou sort of get upset about.

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It's not a good thing, especiallysince it's not self defense. It's just
I'm really pissed off at you,so I'm going to air conditioning. You
put some holes in your body.Okay. So I think that these I
think the story here, or Ithink the con here is that trickery is
allowed. Their sub refuge is allowed. So when you see TV shows or

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movies when people are sitting and beinginterrogated and a cop makes up facts,
that's allowed under the law. Here'sa case of Gabrielle Barbour who gets hired
by the FBI. But you know, when you get hired it's provisional.
You have to go through all thetraining successfully. So she starts training at
Quantico. She meets all the jobrequirements, she aces all the written exams.

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She gets the highest score on thephysical exams and the fitness exams,
I mean, the highest score ofanyone, including all the dudes. She
also sustains what they call when you'retraining with these agencies and you get a
little ding, they call them asuitability notation. And she gets three of

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them. Here's what she supposedly didwrong. One she parked in the wrong
area of the parking lot number two. They had a guest speaker from a
division in the FBI, and hehad a reason to send emails to her
and other cadets, and she respondedand said she would like to be assigned
to his squad. That's apparently improperand broke the chain of command when submitting

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a request for leave The other thingthat apparently happened is a lot of sexual
harassment of her as well as ofother female cadets, leading to the filing
of a class action lawsuit against theFBI for sexual harassment. Now she quits,

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but she's part of this lawsuit.A little while later, the DEA
reaches out to her and says,hey, we'd like you to apply for
this fast track program. Why don'tyou come be with the DEA. She's
like, all right, very good, and she does all the stuff,
and then the DEA background investigator callsher and only wants to talk about the

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sexual harassment suit that she's part ofagainst the FBI, and then they stop
communicating with her, and she eventuallyfinds out that they have declined to advance
her application. So she sues nowthe DEA, saying, you wouldn't hire

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me as retaliation for my First Amendmentprotected participation in the sexual harassment lawsuit against
the FBI, And the DEA says, no, no, that's not why.
Here's why. When you were atthe FBI you got those three dings.
Also, we found out when youwere nineteen you were fired from a

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pots and pans store called Kitchen kaboodlebecause they said this is all true.
Meil's already laughing because it is laughable, because they said, you didn't know
enough about the various features of allthe different pots and pans, and that

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is why. Okay, so youknow, Bill, at the pleading stage,
she only has to show that therecan be a reasonable inference that what
happened to her not being put throughwas retaliation. She doesn't have to prove
it was, just that it couldbe a reasonably at first, so she

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goes to the district court, andthe district court says, oh, no,
look, you did this, andyou did this, and you parked
in the wrong thing, and therewere tangible reasons unrelated to your participation in
the lawsuit. And of course shegoes now to the four Circuit Court of
Appeals and said, hey, look, it's a reasonable inference given everything that

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happened, and particularly the idea thatyou're not going to hire me because I
parked in the wrong place and didn'tknow pots and pans when I was nineteen.
But what do you think She's gottaat least show enough that there can
be this reasonable inference, is there? Yeah, of course there's no issue
there especially here's I think the operativefact, and that is that the DEA

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only wanted to talk about the sexualharassment suit. I think that is critical.
The rest of it were such minorin fractions that it's ludicrous on its
face, and not knowing enough aboutthe pots and pans. If that's the
basis for the DEA saying no,there is no other reason for the DA

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and the FBI to toss her otherthan I mean, I'm saying it's beyond
just a reasonable inference. I'm sayingshe's going to prevail at trial, so
she wins. She does win,and now she gets to go back and
have her day in court, andI think a jury of just regular people
are going to see it seems prettyclear. Yeah, absolutely, all right,

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Wayne, we'll talk again next Mondaywith do they have a case?
All right? Have some good phonecalls, Okay, any shot up?
Don't call everyone a more on costsup. Not everyone, I'll call some
of them imbeciles. I am takingphone calls for handle on the law off
the air, and I will dothat for I don't know, half an
hour, forty five minutes. Sowhen you can't get in on Saturday,

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you can do it now eight sevenseven five two zero eleven fifty. Eight
seven seven five two zero eleven fifty. And these phone calls go quickly,
no breaks, and mister patience heregoes to work. Eight seven seven five
two zero eleven fifty. This ishandle on the law. No, it's
not well, it will be handledon the law in the meantime. See,

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