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Six forty five AM six forty Bill Handle here on
a Friday morning, January ninth.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Normally we'd be doing Foody Friday right about now, but
no need. Also no foody Friday, by the way, and
or Amy, what what is that you're stuffing your face with?
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Incidentally, just curious salad. I wish this were television.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
There she is hunched over her desk throwing salad into
her face.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
I am it's not I know, no, I just saw that.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Yes, it's very elegant, very elegant. Okay, what happened yesterday? Well,
the governor of the State of California, Gavin Newsom in
the State of the steam is state address, which, of
course with any governor, any president during a state of
the city, state of the Union, state of the state.
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It's all terrific. Under my tutelage, everything is great. Look
look how great we are because I'm here.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Now.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
We still have work to do, but for the most part,
you should be grateful that I'm here.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
What a shocker, that's Newsome.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
And I'm going to throw you some figures here, some
stats in this story because a lot of things are
about statistics. And I'm also going to throw you a
phrase about statistics that I love, and that is there
are lies, there are damned lies, and there are statistics.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yep. And so here is what the governors is.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
The governor said, killings in la plummeted twenty twenty five,
and that mirrors trends statewide, latest numbers that Newsom has touted,
and he did, and that's up against President Trump's assistance
that crime in California is out of control. Matter of fact,
Newsom speaks directly to Trump, and he is saying that
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this image of widespread lawlessness that actually influenced voters in
twenty twenty four, Man, that whole concept is outdated. It's
time to update your talking points and to put in
perspective some of the numbers that the governor cided in
his speech yesterday. The last time homicides were at this
low in Oakland.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
For example, the.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Reverend Martin Luther King was visiting Joan Biez in Santa
Rita jail to commend her on her being arrested in
protests of the Vietnam Draft. Now, how many we even
know who Joan Biez is? Anybody under forty any idea
who she was. She was an activist, a folk singer,
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and was a a huge detractor, not a detractor, a
huge arguer against the Vietnam War. She was a protester
extraordinary and was tossed into jail for advocating the burning
of the draft cards, etc. Okay, the last time, well,
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killings have been so rare that the last time there
were more killings was in San Francisco. That's another city.
Since Marilyn Monroe married Joe Dimagio at city Hall, how
many people know who Joe DiMaggio is. Everybody knows Marilyn Monroe.
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We've seen double digit decreases in crime all over in
the state of California, and of course we have more
work to do.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
That's a line. Now.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
The crime rate is dropping and has been dropping, I
mean dramatically. Why, Well, there's there are so many reasons why.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
It's very complicated stuff.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
One of the reasons that maybe it's perceived that crime
is out of control is because every time someone, for example,
keys the car, it makes the Internet, it makes social media,
and the perception is that it's crime happening on every
street corner. Well, you know, burglaries way down, unless every
burglary is reported on social media, then all of a sudden,
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the perception is it's way up.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
And k Newsome, why is crime down?
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Well, because of crime fighting cash that I unleashed and
had the California legislature unleash. The reality of all this
is so more complicated, much more complicated than even throwing
stats at you, if you look at those who actually
study the root causes of crime, and that's a lot
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of people, sociologists, criminal justice people are saying it may
take years, decades maybe to disentangle the causes of this
urge of crime in the pandemic era and the drop,
the precipitous drop that followed.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
We really don't know. Now.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
The President hammered lawlessness in California and on the streets
during the twenty twenty four presidential campaign and throughout his
first year back in the White House.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
And this is another one.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Crime does not exist in Republican led states, only in
Democrat states. Crime does not really exist in cities that
are Republican versus for example, crime in liberal cities. Okay,
And when he talks about Newsom, incidentally, he rarely does
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he talk about Newsom without talking about crime and chaos,
and regularly threatens a surge of armed soldiers back onto
the streets. I mean, the president is a huge fan
of putting armed soldiers on the streets. And there's the
argument a lot of people go, we like soldiers on
the streets because crime does drop.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
There's no question about it.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
If you have armed soldiers on every corner of every
street by the tens of thousands, you know what crime
is going to drop. Now the other side of it,
do you want armed soldiers? Do you want the military
on every corner of every street. There's a conversation that's
to be had at a different point. So there's also
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the issue of groups that have sprung up and programs
have sprung up to assist people that with homelessness, with
drug addiction, untreated mental health disorders. That also increases the
perception of crime. So has crime drop? Yeah, statistically it
has pretty dramatically. I mean, we're a better shape than
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we were a long time ago. Are we out of control?
If we ever elect a Republican governor, crime will disappear.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
I guarantee you don't exist in the state. So we're
going to see what happens.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
I mean, in reality, California politics are California politics. It's
about as left wing as you can get. California is
the most liberal state in the United States. It has
a super majority of Democratic assembly people and senators in
the state, so it's gonna go left wing taking any position.
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But the reality is crime is dropped. And here are
the stats. But you can read stats any way you
possibly can and want to, and you extrapolate if two
burglaries happened on that street, and we have X number
of streets in the city times two, whoa look where
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crime is. Well we're extrapolating. How about the crimes that
are not even reported. Your house gets burglarized, you call
a police officer to come out. You want to report,
because the insurance company won't touch it without a report.
Touch the policy. Try getting a cop out there. I
once got into a fender bender with someone and it
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was a I just barely touched the fender, and I
offered to pay.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
You know, I'll just give you the money. It's not
worth going through my insurance.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Well the guy said, no, no, I want to go
through the insurance all right, So let's call a cop
and wait for a police officer to show up because
we need a police report. I stayed half an hour
and I got out of there and we exchanged information.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
I called him, I said, did a cop ever show up? Nope?
How long were you waiting? Four hours?
Speaker 3 (08:42):
And then finally we left still claim through the insurance company.
He wouldn't let me just pay him off. I turned
out to be three hundred dollars or four hundred dollars.
I mean, it was literally a nick. But the point
I'm making is because a police report was not written up,
does that mean that it didn't happen?
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Lies? Damn lies and statistics.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Okay, okay, Now this is my wheelhouse, and this has
to do with infertility and IVF treatments.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
And there's a new law.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
In California that just kicked in and it's going to
force insurance companies to pay for in vitro services. In
vitro is how a couple or how a person conceives
of a child. It's done in a petrie dish. The
egg is placed in a petrie dish. The sperm is
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then placed in the same Petrie dish, and hopefully the
two shall meet, an embryos created and then the embryos
implanted into the uterus, either of the mom to be
who created the embryo with her egg, or a surrogate
or an egg donor. I mean, there are many different variations,
but the bottom line is all in vitro fertilization. It's
all fertilization outside to the body. And my kids were
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born at vin vitro fertilization. And to this point, you
know I have Kaiser. Yeah, they were not big on infertility.
It's not something that Kaiser does very well, so there
was no chance of that being covered. So I had
to write a check and it was not inexpensive. And
a lot of people who would love to have children
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and could use in virtual fertilization as a means of
having kids their own kids can't do it. Massachusetts, years
and years ago allowed for or forced insurance companies to
pay for in vitro services. Well, now California is one
of them sixteen states and about nine million Californian is
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going to benefit from this new law requiring some insurance companies.
I'm going to go through it in a minute, to
pay for the diagnosis and treatment of infertility.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Because here's the philosophy.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
It's not just paying for in vitro is accepting the
fact that if people are infertile, that is a medical condition.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
It's something to be treated.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
And if it is a medical condition that has to
be treated, then insurance should cover it. And insurance companies
are wonderful about exclusions. They just there's some. The first thing,
the first page is what's what's excluded. Look at your
homeowner's policy. Look at your auto policy. We cover you
except for zipping right through there. Same thing with medical insurance.
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In vitro is universally not covered. Now it has to
be covered, and it is expensive stuff. But the bottom
line is looking at infertility as a real disease that
has to be treated.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
It's like mental illness.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
At one point really wasn't considered a diagnostable disease, medical condition.
It's just it's not the same as cancer or broken
bones or decidius. Well, infertility is way down the line now.
A few things technically about in vitro fertilization is that
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the egg is harvested, that's the worm that used, that's
the word that is used from the woman, and it's
it's not the easiest procedure in the world. There's a
very large needle that goes into the vagina and then
goes to the ovaries which have been super uh superovulated
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with all kinds of fun drugs. And then the liquid
which is where the eggs are floating around in are
then taken put into petri dishes and the sperm is
placed in the petri dish and theoretically the two meat
and sometimes they don't, so there's another procedure they use
to insert these sperm in there. But what ends up
happening technically speaking, because again I am the expert on
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this both my wheelhouses, I did this in third my
third party reproductive practice, which I did for fifteen years,
but also personal involvement of my kids being produced by
or via the infertility process of in vitro fertilization. So
the woman has to take the drugs and they're no fun.
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The woman has to have the procedure done to create
the eggs and a lot of them, because the normally
one or two eggs are created that statistically you.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Want a lot more than that. So for the woman,
it is.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
A difficult process, it's painful, it takes a long time.
Now let's talk about what the man has to do.
This is where I tell you God is a man
and not a woman.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Why is that?
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Because the woman goes through this incredible process and the
guy goes in the other room with a porno magazine
and says, here you go and come out with your
little dixie cup and give us a specimen. It is
a very neat way to have a medical procedure done,
I must tell you. But this is really good news.
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I mean, other than sort of the humor. I find
it humors, but it happened to me, by the way,
I'll never forget. I've been working with this doctor for
years and years, and when it finally came time for
me to produce the sperm specimen. And I've shared this
story before, the nurse handed me the little specimen cup,
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the dixie cup, and I looked at her and I said,
you know, I've been practicing for this since I've been
twelve years old, so I'm sure I'm going to do
the proper, proper job on that. And they laughed. I've
been working with this doctor for a while. Otherwise they
would think I'm a complete dick.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Which I generally am.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
But this is terrific news for people who don't have
the money and I'm talking about twenty twenty five thousand
dollars to create child via in vitro fertilization and the
acceptance of UH and having dealt with infertile couples for decades,
the acceptance of infertility as a genuine medical issue took
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us a long time to.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Get here, and I am thrilled that we are. Okay.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Now, if you had to get Amy, I'm gonna throw
this at you, and I'm not gonna ask you because
you put the story together, Amy, what is the most
common UH crowd funding, both in terms of requests and donors?
Speaker 1 (15:33):
What would you guess?
Speaker 4 (15:34):
M I would say either funerals or medical bills?
Speaker 3 (15:40):
No, No, the answers hookers money to UH, you know,
for people that are.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Desperate for UH.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
It's not okay, So it's not You were right on
the medical UH. It is medical issues. UH, and that
is crowdfunding. Now sometimes the other one is funerals, and
you're right on that one too, depending on what's going on.
Number One, in terms of sheer numbers are and sheer
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amounts asked for and the number of people is for
medical bills, There's no question about it. But it also
it depends on when when crowdfunding gets legs, when it
really becomes viral viral. Do you remember that guy who
owned the taco stan, That poor gentleman who owned the
taco stan and he was robbed and the taco stan disappeared,
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And so I mean, how much does it cost, you know,
twelve fifteen thousand dollars to buy.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
A taco stand?
Speaker 3 (16:38):
And he was I mean, the guy had a family
and he was out a lot of money. They raised
about two hundred and fifty thousand dollars for him through crowdfunding.
He never had to work again. Happy camper. On a
note that's far more serious and far more heart wrenching
is the story going on about Nicole Good, the thirty
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seven year old woman who lost her life a couple
of days ago in Minneapolis as a result of that shooting.
And so her family put up a crowdfunding request to
help the family deal with the funeral and other expenses. Okay,
any idea how much money was raised? Any idea?
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Amy, I think I told you this morning what it was.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Oh they never mind. See my memory is gone too.
It's that's the other thing, is memory care. A lot
of crowdfunding requests for memory care. Lindsay's drawing drafting one
up right now, it's one point five million dollars in
still going for Nicole good one point five million dollars.
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Two in ten US adults have donated money to a
crown crowdfunding campaign of some kind twenty percent. Amy, have
you ever donating money to crowdfunding?
Speaker 5 (18:04):
I think I did once, and it was but it
was for somebody here for something. Oh oh, it was
first Foush, first of Foush. Oh Okay, got just really
severely injured in that.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Crash, right, almost died.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Yeah, but I think that's the only time I've done it.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Yeah, Yeah, I didn't give to him. I gave to
something else.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Somebody had gotten sick from too many burgers and was
having intestioninal problems and started crowdfunding. I go, yeah, I
got to help him out. But I've done I'm one
of the twenty percent I'd given money to crowdfunding campaigns,
and it's crowdfunding. Now people figure that number one is
fraudulent in many cases. Number two the crowdfunding companies charged
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just a fortune and they don't interestingly enough, and participation
by far the most crowdfunders have small gifts, you know,
ten bucks, twenty dollars, and when a story hits them,
and I guess you know what just occurred to me
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as I was speaking.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Here is a growth industry.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
How about becoming a copywriter for crowd funding requests? Much
like when you go to a restaurant and they describe,
for example, you are eating a fresh garden salad. You're
not eating just a salad, amy, but it's a fresh, crispy.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Garden salad covered with dew.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
And you know, arrogant, I mean elegant, just not arrogant,
I know, but you know elegant flavors, you know, subtle
flavors instead of okay, you got a piece of meat. Well, crowdfunding,
I would argue, would be the same thing if you
could write a crowd funding requests where someone needs the money,
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and most crowdfunding is legitimate in terms of request for money,
other than the purely fraudulent ones, which we do stories
on those those do happen.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
But can you imagine I.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Wonder if you can put a wine, not a drinkable wine,
but a wine into a request on crowdfunding. You know
we should do that. We should start a contest and
who can make the most What's the word I'm looking
for on this one?
Speaker 1 (20:34):
I don't want to.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
I know where I'm gonna go with this, and I
know I'm gonna get in trouble with this one, so
I'm not gonna do that. Are you ready self editing?
I actually have self edited? God forbid? All right, So
much for that. Okay, let's start with a basic premise.
And this is a great story if you're a dog
lover or even not. Dogs are known for their ability
to learn human language number one via training, and you
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can tell a dog and call a dog and they
know the words. There's now a new study ground breaking
says dogs are even smarter than that some dogs, published
in the journal Science. I mean, this is really science.
The study found that a special group of dogs, known
as gifted word learners, or another way of putting it
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is not handles. Dogs are not only able to pick
up words from direct interaction, that can learn the name
of objects just by overhearing their owners talking with each other.
Basically comes down to toddlers that are one and a
half years old. These dogs can learn new words by
passively listening to interactions between humans who are not even
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talking to them. They're talking to each other, the humans,
and they're able to pick it up.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
And here's what the study says.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Children monitor speakers, gaze and attention, They detect communicative cues,
extract target words from a continuous stream of speech. And
it wasn't They didn't know whether gifted dogs could also
learned this, and it turns out they can. There was
a study from two scientists, interestingly enough, from Soul National
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University in Korea. I find that completely fascinating that came
from Korea, and I won't even get into the jokes
after that that about these dogs and findings show that
socio cognitive processes enable word learning from this overheard speech.
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Under the right conditions, some dogs can present behaviors similar
to that of young children who are simply learning, who
are now learning words and cognitive behavior.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
So one of the dogs.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
In the study, by the way, it wasn't at Soul
University in Korea. I made that up actually from I
don't even know where these are Atavos Lauran University. I
guess that's French. Uh, yeah, it was a French paper.
And so one of the dogs named Squall nine and
a half year old male Border Collie from the US
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participated in the study, and according to that study, the
dog knows the names of many, many dog toys.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
So what the sciences did is tested ten.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Of these gifted dogs in two different situations, and they
addressed the condition where owners introduced new toys and labeled
them while interacting with the dog, and overheard conversation where
the dogs were watching as their owners talk to each
other about the toys without even addressing the dog. I mean,
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if you go here, Fido, or my case, here, Izzy, here,
Tommy and I look at a dog toy and I say, hey,
here's a toy, and of course the dog's going to react.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
But how about this.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
I turned to Lindsey and I say, you know that
toy is really being chewed up, and let's replace it. Well,
not our dogs, because our dogs are idiots, but really
smart dogs will actually be able to pick up on
that and in fact figure out what is being spoken about.
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I mean, that's pretty impressive. The dogs heard the name
of the new toy. Are you ready for this? For
only eight minutes each condition, and distributed those that condition
those conversations across the board in eight minutes. Then the
toys were placed in different rooms, and the owners asked.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
The dogs to retrieve each toy by name.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
I couldn't do that to my girls when they were
fifteen years old. They wouldn't do that for God's sake,
and dogs can do that. I mean, I find that
absolutely astounding. The dog's performances were even more accurate in
overhearing conditions, with one hundred percent right choices compared to
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eighty percent in the addressed condition. In other words, in
the testing it was one way, and when they looked
at dogs who weren't being tested, these gifted dogs, they're
even more accurate.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Wow. And then there's a whole bunch of other.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Studies that we're done, or also other experiments that were
done where the dogs are just doing better and better.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
That's pretty impressive. The paper author said.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
These findings suggest that these GwL dogs, these gifted dogs
can flexibly use a variety of different mechanisms to learn
new objects labels. That's what the author And an a
theologist or ethologists, what the hell is an ethologist? People
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that do skincare amy, you know they give.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
You an ethologist.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Yeah, I have no idea what an ethologist is. I
know the other one's an ethistician or whatever. I behavior
and natural or controlled settings.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
Oh okay, well then that makes sense, doesn't it.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
It certainly does. Now.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
I had a dog, and I want to share this
story with you.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
I had a dog, Suki.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Suki was so stupid that I actually took her to
a vet who specialized in brain disorders of dogs, honest
to God, because Suki was hit by a car. She
was actually hit by a car and she went flying
forty feet, and of course took her to the vet
and the vet said that she suffered pretty traumatic brain injury,
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but she's going to survive, and she is. You can
take her home and she'll still be with you, you know,
and the prognosis until she dies is pretty good. She
just has some pretty severe brain trauma. Could not tell
the difference before and after the accident. That's how stupid.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
She was. The dumbest dog that ever lived.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
And I went back to the vat and I go,
can a dog be this stupid and survive?
Speaker 1 (27:12):
He said, I've never seen that either.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
What Suki used to do is after the injury, after
the traumatic brain injury, Suki would walk down the halls
and then hit the sides would hit the walls because
she just lost her balance, or she would just PLoP
over on her side and then get up, shake, shake
her head and go okay.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Moving on. This dog was so dumb. How dumb was
this dog? Bill? This dog was so dumb. We could
never really house.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Break her because she had a very hard time understanding
outside from inside. It was pretty depressing. And then Suki
ended up dying and we put her down. And that's
another story of how I put down Suki, and I'll
share that with you at another day, another time.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
I think we are done.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Oh you're a cat person, that's right, Amy, So do
you view your cat as smart?
Speaker 1 (28:11):
That's a good answer. I mean, yeah, that's that's very strong,
just plain adorable. Oh it's so sweet.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
I think dogs are definitely smarter. Cats are sneakier.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
I don't think, you know what, I don't think cats care.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
They don't.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
That's I think that's more like it. I just don't
think they give a rats.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
They don't give a rats ass, except they actually do
when you think about it, because they're cats and they
like to go after rats.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Okay, so how about this one.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Okay, I'm gonna leave with this Uh, cats don't give
a rats ass. Yet they give a rats ass. How's
that for in depth analysis?
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Brilliant?
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Thank you. I work on that. All right. We are
done with our week. It's been a hell of a week,
and we're gonna be following up a whole lot.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
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Speaker 1 (29:43):
Amy and Me and Cono.
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And except I'm really not saying behalf of because that
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see you on Monday, and I'll see you tomorrow morning.
And Gary and Shannon are up next. On top of
all that, boy, this is exciting stuff. KFI AM six
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