February 13, 2026 • 22 mins
(February 13, 2026)
How a Homeland Security shutdown would affect immigration enforcement, CBP, and TSA. President Trump, EPA’s Zeldin revoke landmark climate change ruling. Los Angeles liable for destroying homeless people’s property, federal judge rules. It’s a grocery store, but selling food isn’t the point.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listenings KFI AM six forty the Bill Handles show
on demand on the iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
App's just shut down Down Penny Shutdown KFI AM six
forty Bill handle here. It is a Friday morning, February
thirteenth at eight o'clock footy Friday, eight thirty. It is
ask handle anything. And if you can't listen or just
(00:26):
go to our podcast and you can listen to some
real fun stuff. And that's to go to the iHeartRadio
app and just tune into the podcast. A couple of
big stories we're looking at. Oh, this is a fun
story at the Winter Olympics. What's going on? Under ten
thousand condoms were initially supplied. Now there's a little bit
(00:49):
of shortage here because in the twenty twenty four Paris Olympics,
three hundred thousand condoms were provided. So this supply of
condoms ran out within three three days. And why condoms, Well,
because these athletes stoop like crazy. Also, one of the
jobs that is not particularly wanted in the Olympics are
(01:13):
the janitors who clean up the Olympic village where the
athletes are living. What a mess. Okay, let's move on
tonight At midnight. What happens a partial government shutdown. Boy,
I haven't seen this before. And the Senate an Order
Leader Chuck Schumer has warned the Democrats will not back
(01:36):
another short term funding patch to extend the status quo.
Continuing in resolution ain't going to happen this time, and
the Department of Homeland Security, the Republicans say, we need
more time to reach a deal over the Democrats' demands
for new restriction on immigration enforcement, and it's not gonna
(01:57):
happen by midnight. So DHU funding is just days way
from lapsing and triggering a shutdown actually tonight. So what happened, Well,
because there's so much backlash the way immigration enforcement is
being done now between customs and Border patrol and ice,
Congress has split DHS from the rest of the government appropriations,
(02:22):
and that's being currently funded on a short term continuing resolution,
and well all that disappears. But I think that's going
to happen except for DHS that has been set aside,
and so we are now looking at only DHS. Okay,
here is and here is not only the problem, but
(02:45):
the irony. Here. Under federal law, employees may work during
a shutdown if their jobs are deemed essential or funded
outside the annual appropriation spill, ICE and the CBDP, Customs
and Border Patrol would continue working because they're deemed essential,
so immigration rates continue. What is under the One Big
(03:12):
Beautiful Bill. They ICE and the Border Patrol are given
seventy five billion dollars seventy five billion dollars RICE, sixty
five billion dollars for CBP in mandatory multi year funding,
and most staff continue to be paid even if the
rest of the government shuts down or parts of the
(03:33):
rest of the government shuts down, and you go, wait
a minute, don't they deserve to be cut? And then
you have FEMA, for example, which is going to be
cut at least parts of FEMA because they're deemed non essential.
And other agencies under the Department of Homeland Security, Well,
that's how crazy it has become. Now, for example, the
(03:53):
Coast Guard their search and rescue, which makes sense. First
of all, it's the only military branch that's not funded
by the Department of Defense but through DHS. Now active
duty personnel would continue to work, but without pay. Essential
operations like search and rescue missions would continue unless it's
(04:17):
determined that the person that is rescued, is a registered Democrat,
then that goes away very quickly. Administrative services are paused,
and so most DHS headquarters staff, policy officers, oversight aren't
considered essential, and so by law you have essential services.
(04:39):
And this whole issue is because of immigration, the immigration
operations that are going on. And then of course Tom Homan,
who is the Immigration z are has announced that the
entire federal force in Minneapolis is being pulled back. Not
because of theolytical backlash, not because this is a rogue
(05:04):
group of agents, untrained, trigger happy agents. No, no, no,
it's because it's been fabulously successful working with the city
of Minneapolis. That's why they're pulling back, because it is successful.
An he done anything wrong, Absolutely not, We did everything right. Well,
how about the shooting that occurred of Renee Good and
(05:28):
is it Richard Preddy, I have that right, Alex Preddy
of Alex Preddy, No, nothing wrong, We did nothing wrong.
But it's been hugely successful. It's crazy out there, It
is crazy, and the Department of Defense will theoretically have
a hearing where there will be a court hearing in
which DHS is now going to investigate. They at first
(05:51):
said we're not investigating at all any civil rights violations. Well,
under pressure, they now have to do it. And you
will see the government saying that there has not been
one problem with the enforcement of immigration. Drives you nuts.
But at least at least those federal agents are out
(06:12):
of Minneapolis, either a four thousand or something in Minneapolis
has a police force of four hundred. Okay, done with that.
Here is well another Trump topic, and this one is
a big one, and I agree with the President. He
came out yesterday and in front of Electron, in front
(06:34):
of this standard that he does, he said, this is
a big one. This is a big one, and he's
absolutely right on that. The Trump administration rejecting all science,
has reversed the conclusion that climate change is harming Americans,
(06:56):
that there even is climate change. He has said climate
change is a hoax and it is the biggest scam
in the history of the United States. Okay, So what
he has done is taken away, I mean at the knees,
cut it off the EPA's basis for regulatory action. It's
(07:23):
a repeal of the two thousand and nine Endangerment Finding,
which concluded on the basis of decades of science that
carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases in danger public health
and welfare. And this is just one of a series
of by President Trump to scrap policies and regulations, and
(07:44):
you know some you know are and it's just him
doing what he does, and they don't really affect our
health and really don't affect us in a major way.
This one really does because what it does every regulation
that is designed to curb the use of fossil fuel
and accelerate the transition to clean energy is now done.
It's finished, because it's all a hoax. By the way,
(08:08):
those of you that suffered under the wildfires, it is
a hoax that climate change had anything to do with it.
For those people in the East who are suffering some
of the worst weather since they started recording weather in
the last several weeks and months, it's a hoax. It's
not because of climate change. For those people in the
Midwest with the floods, climate change has nothing to do
(08:31):
with it. Look outside. Just because there's a flood doesn't
mean that there is climate change. And the administration also
dismantled all federal emissions regulations governing vehicle models, and so
vehicle models don't have to. Cars don't have to disappoint anymore.
(08:52):
You know, for example, have catalytic converters that retain that
reduce the amount of fossil fuel emissions. And the action,
and here is the quote from the administration, This action
will restore consumer choice, make more affordable vehicles available for
American families, decrease the cost of living on all product
(09:15):
products by lowering the cost of trucks, and save Americans
more than one point three trillion dollars by removing regulatory
requirements for motor vehicle standards. And of course the experts said,
what are you talking about. By the way, that's probably true.
Eliminating all regulations make trucks and cars cheaper. So do
(09:38):
so does eliminating seat belts. By the way, that does
eliminating you know, the crash proof or the crash resistant
bubble that's there that where the passenger side or the
passenger compartment is strengthened. Get rid of that because that
costs money too. It all costs money. Well, you know,
(10:03):
at what point do you draw the line and you
think that climate change isn't important. Man Joseph Goffman, who
is a former assistant administrator of the EPA Office of
airon Radiation said straight out, this move is a fundamental
betrayal of EPA's responsibility to protect human health. Legally indefensible,
(10:26):
morally bankrupt, completely untethered from the scientific record. Researchers around
the world are unanimous in saying that climate change is
responsible for so much of the dangers that we're seeing climate,
(10:47):
sea levels going up, the glaciers melting at a record pace.
I'll tell you when the scientists said that climate change
is going to cost some big change in terms of
sea level and the melting of glaciers, al Gore came
out with that. And remember how much fun people were
making of al Gore. A planet has a favor remember that,
(11:12):
and that'd still do. And here is where the scientists,
and they gave it fifty years before, what would happen,
what is happening now would happen. Here's where they're wrong.
It happened much faster than anticipated, and so the EPA
effectively is gone. That's the shame of it. The EPA
(11:35):
released its formal proposal in July. More than half a
million public comments overwhelmingly opposed to the plan, I mean
comments from environmentalists scientists, civil rights groups, public health organizations.
Thank you for your comments, which by law had to
occur public hearings. But no climate change is complete hoax.
(12:01):
The good news is you don't have to worry about
catalytic converters anymore. Engines that are designed to reduce the
burning of fossil fuels in a clean way. When are
we going to have coal fired car engines? Because coal
is far cheaper to burn than for example, gasoline, which
(12:24):
has to be created obviously has to be refined out
of oil. Just digging coal out of the ground and
designing a car engine that can burn coal, Man, isn't
that a good idea? All right? Coming up? I tell
you this stuff depresses me. Here's one for you, great
(12:47):
garbage trash story, and that is when is trash a trash? Well,
the city of Los Angeles decides when trash is a
trash when cleaning up the city. Of course, that's their job.
And here's what homeless people have said is that when
the city seizes their property, the city makes the determination
that what's trash, what's hazardous, and tosses it. And the
(13:12):
homeless people don't have the right, don't have the ability
to go in and contest it and arguing their forty
their Fourth Amendment rights are violated and that's unreasonable search
and seizure, and they're saying you can't do that. And
due process has also been violated because I don't have
a chance to go in and argue at all. So
(13:33):
what's going on, Well, that a lawsuit was filed seven
years ago and there is now a ruling by US
District Judge Dale Fisher, and this ended basically ended the
case against the city without even a trial. And is
it because the determination of what is trash and what
(13:54):
is not has been determinated? Not in this one. It's
because the city had altered records of the cleanups. The
city is required to determine trash and hazardous material whenever
picking that up, and it did, and it has to
(14:15):
state its reasons, and it did. The problem is, after
a determination was made, the city started altering the records,
changing dates, changing reasons, changing the basis for example, is
this hazardous or not? So the judge ordered a neutral
(14:37):
forensic analysis of one hundred and forty four cleanups, and
the records showed that ninety percent were either modified or
fabricated by the city. After the city was put on
notice or its obligation to preserve documents. City just altered it,
straight out committed fraud. That's it. And so the judge
(15:02):
just saying, no, that doesn't work. So the case against
the city, as a matter of fact, now effectively has
been one. And so what does a homeless person do. Well,
A homeless person, if their trash is picked up, has
a right to go in and argue that it's not trash,
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and the city, under the law, has to retain it
for ninety days until the owner of the trash and
or valuable item, depending on who defines it under what circumstances,
ninety days to come back and argue and Heretofore, it
was just arbitrary. Now Neil deals with people because Neil
(15:47):
has homeless people in and around his home and they
have a lot of trash. Matter of fact, I've been
in Neil's Hollis and I think he's got more trash
in the house than you could ever imagine. And Neil says, no,
it's not. It's valuable stuff.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
In my home that I pay property taxes on. That
is correct. It's it's a mess. It's the pay property taxes.
We can you know what I've seen more recently and
I think, wow, that's getting creative. Is you know those
bikes that you could that the city puts out that
you can use credit cards to what.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
They those know that those are private it's not city.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Yeah, allow them because they put them out in property,
but some might be city done.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
They'll lock them up to trees and stuff in their
little homesteads so other people can't use them. So they
ride them to their shanties, their little lean tos, and
then they'll lock them so that they kind of use
them as their own private vehicle.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Okay, I didn't even think that was happening, but you
know you wanted to go. You stories that blow your
felt line. You know it's a lose lose, and can
you imagine you have to go in front of some
hearing officer because you have to be given the opportunity
to argue this is not trash. By the way, this
court order does not say what has to be done,
(17:14):
how you do it. It just says you have to
do it. You have to give the plaintiff, a homeless person,
the right to come in and say my stuff is
not trash. Now, what is trash? No? One knows. That
hasn't been determined yet. Who determines it, No one knows.
It's fascinating stuff. I love it, and thank goodness, I
(17:35):
live in a gated community where. Yeah, but if I.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Had stuff on my front lawn, the city could, if
there was complaints, the city could come by and clean
it up.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
I understand. But under the law, now, under the law,
whoever says it is there. I mean mainly homeless encampments.
You know, you have someone who is in a tent
or but you see someone who is walking down the
street with a shopping cart filled with their precious possessions
and now they're parked on the street because they have
(18:08):
to sleep and it's all around them. The city comes
and picks them all up. All right, So much for that.
That's the latest court case. We're gonna see more of
that coming up. All right. So let me describe a building,
a business, A rooftop garden with Italian honeybees. I had
no idea there was such a thing as Italian honeybees,
(18:30):
art exhibitions and featuring the works of local artists, an
in guest resident bedroom. It sounds like a retreat. It's
a grocery store, in New York. Happier Grocery open in
twenty twenty three, and it has hosted chest nights, family
(18:50):
style dinner parties, chefs, yoga, breathe breathwork classes. Okay, fine,
thank you. That's in case you're not breathing, a knitting workshop.
And it's a grocery store. So why would this be
so successful, Neil? Because it's sort of counterintuitive, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
I like mix spaces, I love the concert I love
art obviously, and the thought of bringing these things into
one place I think is a kind of a neat idea.
But man, this particular story breaking it down, it just
seems like pretentious crap because it's like, to me, it's
(19:36):
trying to make something benign like grocery shopping into something
that makes me feel special about myself.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Well, that is exactly the point, I think, and I'm
going to take a different tact because when you talk
about instacart, which we're using more and more and people
are going less to grocery stores, I believe you got
to get him in the stores somehow, and this is
(20:04):
the way it becomes an event. It becomes a special
trip to the grocery stores. Now you're right. This is
pretentious as hell. It's so she she, it's ridiculous. It's
called Happier Grocery. It opened to the twenty twenty three.
But the thing is, it's not really about the groceries.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
That's the point. You're right, it's not about the groceries.
It's about the groceries, and you don't care about the
price that they don't care about the money, but you
have to to have all those other things there that
to me, it becomes I don't know, it's a little
hippie dippy and it loses the focus. Listen, we all
(20:45):
need to eat now. If you want to have a
part farm live farm with the honey bees and all
these that's beautiful and art and there. I love all that,
but the reality is, what is this model? It to
me is not bringing it to the people. It's curating
a special This is these are our people and you
(21:07):
can be a part of this club.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
And to me, that's not okay, well okay, let me
tell you what happened at my grocery store, which is
only a grocery store routes which I go to down
the street. That's my two ghost store. And now it's
Girl Scout Cookie season in case you don't know that.
And so every day, and I've gone a couple of
times this week because I was short of some stuff.
(21:28):
I go down there and there is there is that
little stand with moms and the little the Girl Scouts,
and I've already bought mine. So there's a new group
the next day, so I go up there and I said, hey,
I've already bought my Girl Scout cookies. And yesterday I
had a little girl you stand in front of me
(21:50):
and say, don't you want to buy more? And I said, no,
I've bought all the cookies I want. You know what
it's like to be tackled by an eight year old
and you're not able to fight? Well, kno does Yeah, Okay,
you can't even kick him because mom is there, KF.
(22:10):
I am sixty.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
App's just shut down Down Penny Shutdown KFI AM six
forty Bill handle here. It is a Friday morning, February
thirteenth at eight o'clock footy Friday, eight thirty. It is
ask handle anything. And if you can't listen or just
(00:26):
go to our podcast and you can listen to some
real fun stuff. And that's to go to the iHeartRadio
app and just tune into the podcast. A couple of
big stories we're looking at. Oh, this is a fun
story at the Winter Olympics. What's going on? Under ten
thousand condoms were initially supplied. Now there's a little bit
(00:49):
of shortage here because in the twenty twenty four Paris Olympics,
three hundred thousand condoms were provided. So this supply of
condoms ran out within three three days. And why condoms, Well,
because these athletes stoop like crazy. Also, one of the
jobs that is not particularly wanted in the Olympics are
(01:13):
the janitors who clean up the Olympic village where the
athletes are living. What a mess. Okay, let's move on
tonight At midnight. What happens a partial government shutdown. Boy,
I haven't seen this before. And the Senate an Order
Leader Chuck Schumer has warned the Democrats will not back
(01:36):
another short term funding patch to extend the status quo.
Continuing in resolution ain't going to happen this time, and
the Department of Homeland Security, the Republicans say, we need
more time to reach a deal over the Democrats' demands
for new restriction on immigration enforcement, and it's not gonna
(01:57):
happen by midnight. So DHU funding is just days way
from lapsing and triggering a shutdown actually tonight. So what happened, Well,
because there's so much backlash the way immigration enforcement is
being done now between customs and Border patrol and ice,
Congress has split DHS from the rest of the government appropriations,
(02:22):
and that's being currently funded on a short term continuing resolution,
and well all that disappears. But I think that's going
to happen except for DHS that has been set aside,
and so we are now looking at only DHS. Okay,
here is and here is not only the problem, but
(02:45):
the irony. Here. Under federal law, employees may work during
a shutdown if their jobs are deemed essential or funded
outside the annual appropriation spill, ICE and the CBDP, Customs
and Border Patrol would continue working because they're deemed essential,
so immigration rates continue. What is under the One Big
(03:12):
Beautiful Bill. They ICE and the Border Patrol are given
seventy five billion dollars seventy five billion dollars RICE, sixty
five billion dollars for CBP in mandatory multi year funding,
and most staff continue to be paid even if the
rest of the government shuts down or parts of the
(03:33):
rest of the government shuts down, and you go, wait
a minute, don't they deserve to be cut? And then
you have FEMA, for example, which is going to be
cut at least parts of FEMA because they're deemed non essential.
And other agencies under the Department of Homeland Security, Well,
that's how crazy it has become. Now, for example, the
(03:53):
Coast Guard their search and rescue, which makes sense. First
of all, it's the only military branch that's not funded
by the Department of Defense but through DHS. Now active
duty personnel would continue to work, but without pay. Essential
operations like search and rescue missions would continue unless it's
(04:17):
determined that the person that is rescued, is a registered Democrat,
then that goes away very quickly. Administrative services are paused,
and so most DHS headquarters staff, policy officers, oversight aren't
considered essential, and so by law you have essential services.
(04:39):
And this whole issue is because of immigration, the immigration
operations that are going on. And then of course Tom Homan,
who is the Immigration z are has announced that the
entire federal force in Minneapolis is being pulled back. Not
because of theolytical backlash, not because this is a rogue
(05:04):
group of agents, untrained, trigger happy agents. No, no, no,
it's because it's been fabulously successful working with the city
of Minneapolis. That's why they're pulling back, because it is successful.
An he done anything wrong, Absolutely not, We did everything right. Well,
how about the shooting that occurred of Renee Good and
(05:28):
is it Richard Preddy, I have that right, Alex Preddy
of Alex Preddy, No, nothing wrong, We did nothing wrong.
But it's been hugely successful. It's crazy out there, It
is crazy, and the Department of Defense will theoretically have
a hearing where there will be a court hearing in
which DHS is now going to investigate. They at first
(05:51):
said we're not investigating at all any civil rights violations. Well,
under pressure, they now have to do it. And you
will see the government saying that there has not been
one problem with the enforcement of immigration. Drives you nuts.
But at least at least those federal agents are out
(06:12):
of Minneapolis, either a four thousand or something in Minneapolis
has a police force of four hundred. Okay, done with that.
Here is well another Trump topic, and this one is
a big one, and I agree with the President. He
came out yesterday and in front of Electron, in front
(06:34):
of this standard that he does, he said, this is
a big one. This is a big one, and he's
absolutely right on that. The Trump administration rejecting all science,
has reversed the conclusion that climate change is harming Americans,
(06:56):
that there even is climate change. He has said climate
change is a hoax and it is the biggest scam
in the history of the United States. Okay, So what
he has done is taken away, I mean at the knees,
cut it off the EPA's basis for regulatory action. It's
(07:23):
a repeal of the two thousand and nine Endangerment Finding,
which concluded on the basis of decades of science that
carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases in danger public health
and welfare. And this is just one of a series
of by President Trump to scrap policies and regulations, and
(07:44):
you know some you know are and it's just him
doing what he does, and they don't really affect our
health and really don't affect us in a major way.
This one really does because what it does every regulation
that is designed to curb the use of fossil fuel
and accelerate the transition to clean energy is now done.
It's finished, because it's all a hoax. By the way,
(08:08):
those of you that suffered under the wildfires, it is
a hoax that climate change had anything to do with it.
For those people in the East who are suffering some
of the worst weather since they started recording weather in
the last several weeks and months, it's a hoax. It's
not because of climate change. For those people in the
Midwest with the floods, climate change has nothing to do
(08:31):
with it. Look outside. Just because there's a flood doesn't
mean that there is climate change. And the administration also
dismantled all federal emissions regulations governing vehicle models, and so
vehicle models don't have to. Cars don't have to disappoint anymore.
(08:52):
You know, for example, have catalytic converters that retain that
reduce the amount of fossil fuel emissions. And the action,
and here is the quote from the administration, This action
will restore consumer choice, make more affordable vehicles available for
American families, decrease the cost of living on all product
(09:15):
products by lowering the cost of trucks, and save Americans
more than one point three trillion dollars by removing regulatory
requirements for motor vehicle standards. And of course the experts said,
what are you talking about. By the way, that's probably true.
Eliminating all regulations make trucks and cars cheaper. So do
(09:38):
so does eliminating seat belts. By the way, that does
eliminating you know, the crash proof or the crash resistant
bubble that's there that where the passenger side or the
passenger compartment is strengthened. Get rid of that because that
costs money too. It all costs money. Well, you know,
(10:03):
at what point do you draw the line and you
think that climate change isn't important. Man Joseph Goffman, who
is a former assistant administrator of the EPA Office of
airon Radiation said straight out, this move is a fundamental
betrayal of EPA's responsibility to protect human health. Legally indefensible,
(10:26):
morally bankrupt, completely untethered from the scientific record. Researchers around
the world are unanimous in saying that climate change is
responsible for so much of the dangers that we're seeing climate,
(10:47):
sea levels going up, the glaciers melting at a record pace.
I'll tell you when the scientists said that climate change
is going to cost some big change in terms of
sea level and the melting of glaciers, al Gore came
out with that. And remember how much fun people were
making of al Gore. A planet has a favor remember that,
(11:12):
and that'd still do. And here is where the scientists,
and they gave it fifty years before, what would happen,
what is happening now would happen. Here's where they're wrong.
It happened much faster than anticipated, and so the EPA
effectively is gone. That's the shame of it. The EPA
(11:35):
released its formal proposal in July. More than half a
million public comments overwhelmingly opposed to the plan, I mean
comments from environmentalists scientists, civil rights groups, public health organizations.
Thank you for your comments, which by law had to
occur public hearings. But no climate change is complete hoax.
(12:01):
The good news is you don't have to worry about
catalytic converters anymore. Engines that are designed to reduce the
burning of fossil fuels in a clean way. When are
we going to have coal fired car engines? Because coal
is far cheaper to burn than for example, gasoline, which
(12:24):
has to be created obviously has to be refined out
of oil. Just digging coal out of the ground and
designing a car engine that can burn coal, Man, isn't
that a good idea? All right? Coming up? I tell
you this stuff depresses me. Here's one for you, great
(12:47):
garbage trash story, and that is when is trash a trash? Well,
the city of Los Angeles decides when trash is a
trash when cleaning up the city. Of course, that's their job.
And here's what homeless people have said is that when
the city seizes their property, the city makes the determination
that what's trash, what's hazardous, and tosses it. And the
(13:12):
homeless people don't have the right, don't have the ability
to go in and contest it and arguing their forty
their Fourth Amendment rights are violated and that's unreasonable search
and seizure, and they're saying you can't do that. And
due process has also been violated because I don't have
a chance to go in and argue at all. So
(13:33):
what's going on, Well, that a lawsuit was filed seven
years ago and there is now a ruling by US
District Judge Dale Fisher, and this ended basically ended the
case against the city without even a trial. And is
it because the determination of what is trash and what
(13:54):
is not has been determinated? Not in this one. It's
because the city had altered records of the cleanups. The
city is required to determine trash and hazardous material whenever
picking that up, and it did, and it has to
(14:15):
state its reasons, and it did. The problem is, after
a determination was made, the city started altering the records,
changing dates, changing reasons, changing the basis for example, is
this hazardous or not? So the judge ordered a neutral
(14:37):
forensic analysis of one hundred and forty four cleanups, and
the records showed that ninety percent were either modified or
fabricated by the city. After the city was put on
notice or its obligation to preserve documents. City just altered it,
straight out committed fraud. That's it. And so the judge
(15:02):
just saying, no, that doesn't work. So the case against
the city, as a matter of fact, now effectively has
been one. And so what does a homeless person do. Well,
A homeless person, if their trash is picked up, has
a right to go in and argue that it's not trash,
(15:24):
and the city, under the law, has to retain it
for ninety days until the owner of the trash and
or valuable item, depending on who defines it under what circumstances,
ninety days to come back and argue and Heretofore, it
was just arbitrary. Now Neil deals with people because Neil
(15:47):
has homeless people in and around his home and they
have a lot of trash. Matter of fact, I've been
in Neil's Hollis and I think he's got more trash
in the house than you could ever imagine. And Neil says, no,
it's not. It's valuable stuff.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
In my home that I pay property taxes on. That
is correct. It's it's a mess. It's the pay property taxes.
We can you know what I've seen more recently and
I think, wow, that's getting creative. Is you know those
bikes that you could that the city puts out that
you can use credit cards to what.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
They those know that those are private it's not city.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Yeah, allow them because they put them out in property,
but some might be city done.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
They'll lock them up to trees and stuff in their
little homesteads so other people can't use them. So they
ride them to their shanties, their little lean tos, and
then they'll lock them so that they kind of use
them as their own private vehicle.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Okay, I didn't even think that was happening, but you
know you wanted to go. You stories that blow your
felt line. You know it's a lose lose, and can
you imagine you have to go in front of some
hearing officer because you have to be given the opportunity
to argue this is not trash. By the way, this
court order does not say what has to be done,
(17:14):
how you do it. It just says you have to
do it. You have to give the plaintiff, a homeless person,
the right to come in and say my stuff is
not trash. Now, what is trash? No? One knows. That
hasn't been determined yet. Who determines it, No one knows.
It's fascinating stuff. I love it, and thank goodness, I
(17:35):
live in a gated community where. Yeah, but if I.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Had stuff on my front lawn, the city could, if
there was complaints, the city could come by and clean
it up.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
I understand. But under the law, now, under the law,
whoever says it is there. I mean mainly homeless encampments.
You know, you have someone who is in a tent
or but you see someone who is walking down the
street with a shopping cart filled with their precious possessions
and now they're parked on the street because they have
(18:08):
to sleep and it's all around them. The city comes
and picks them all up. All right, So much for that.
That's the latest court case. We're gonna see more of
that coming up. All right. So let me describe a building,
a business, A rooftop garden with Italian honeybees. I had
no idea there was such a thing as Italian honeybees,
(18:30):
art exhibitions and featuring the works of local artists, an
in guest resident bedroom. It sounds like a retreat. It's
a grocery store, in New York. Happier Grocery open in
twenty twenty three, and it has hosted chest nights, family
(18:50):
style dinner parties, chefs, yoga, breathe breathwork classes. Okay, fine,
thank you. That's in case you're not breathing, a knitting workshop.
And it's a grocery store. So why would this be
so successful, Neil? Because it's sort of counterintuitive, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
I like mix spaces, I love the concert I love
art obviously, and the thought of bringing these things into
one place I think is a kind of a neat idea.
But man, this particular story breaking it down, it just
seems like pretentious crap because it's like, to me, it's
(19:36):
trying to make something benign like grocery shopping into something
that makes me feel special about myself.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Well, that is exactly the point, I think, and I'm
going to take a different tact because when you talk
about instacart, which we're using more and more and people
are going less to grocery stores, I believe you got
to get him in the stores somehow, and this is
(20:04):
the way it becomes an event. It becomes a special
trip to the grocery stores. Now you're right. This is
pretentious as hell. It's so she she, it's ridiculous. It's
called Happier Grocery. It opened to the twenty twenty three.
But the thing is, it's not really about the groceries.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
That's the point. You're right, it's not about the groceries.
It's about the groceries, and you don't care about the
price that they don't care about the money, but you
have to to have all those other things there that
to me, it becomes I don't know, it's a little
hippie dippy and it loses the focus. Listen, we all
(20:45):
need to eat now. If you want to have a
part farm live farm with the honey bees and all
these that's beautiful and art and there. I love all that,
but the reality is, what is this model? It to
me is not bringing it to the people. It's curating
a special This is these are our people and you
(21:07):
can be a part of this club.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
And to me, that's not okay, well okay, let me
tell you what happened at my grocery store, which is
only a grocery store routes which I go to down
the street. That's my two ghost store. And now it's
Girl Scout Cookie season in case you don't know that.
And so every day, and I've gone a couple of
times this week because I was short of some stuff.
(21:28):
I go down there and there is there is that
little stand with moms and the little the Girl Scouts,
and I've already bought mine. So there's a new group
the next day, so I go up there and I said, hey,
I've already bought my Girl Scout cookies. And yesterday I
had a little girl you stand in front of me
(21:50):
and say, don't you want to buy more? And I said, no,
I've bought all the cookies I want. You know what
it's like to be tackled by an eight year old
and you're not able to fight? Well, kno does Yeah, Okay,
you can't even kick him because mom is there, KF.
(22:10):
I am sixty.
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