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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
K i AM six forty Bill Handle on a Wednesday morning,
July fifteenth. The war in Iran continues on, and we're
certainly going to get more information about that today.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Now.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
A debate that's been going on ever since I can remember,
and has probably been going on for decades and decades,
and that has to do with getting rid of standard
time and putting us on permanent daylight saving time so
we don't have to do that twice yearly clock change,
you know, the jump ahead twice, go sideways or fall back.
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I've always gotten that confused. In twenty eighteen, we California
voters approved Props Seven, which gave the legislature the authority
to impose you're right year round daylight saving times, not
which said it will do so, but the legislature could
do so, but only if the federal government allows.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
The state to do so. It's sort of a weird one.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
The Feds have to give you permission to do it,
and then the states have the ability to change it up.
And now you have sleep scientists, businesses, and surprisingly, or
maybe not surprisingly, golf course owners are jumping into the
fray and for some reason, people paying a lot of
attention to golf golf course owners debating health risks, economic
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gains lost tea times. The House, there's a lot lopsided
partisan vote voted and approved a measure to make the
year round daylight saving time the default for most of
the US.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Beginning next year, which means.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
It doesn't actually force it, but if the states don't
do it, then by default it goes into daylight saving
time permanently. And according to the represent Kat Kamak who
put this on the floor, this legislation does exactly what
Americans been asking Congress to do, not just for years,
but decades, and end outdated practices of changing our clocks
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twice a year.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
By the way, that vote was three eight to one seventeen.
In the Senate, there's a comparison bill. They don't know
which way it's going to go. So California and other
states the lawmakers could opt out of making daylight savings
time permanent, but has to do it before the law
takes effect.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
I mean it's a little convoluted there.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
And as I said, potential health issues are being talked about.
Impact on sleep businesses, agriculture, all of that, and so
which way do you go on this? Well, either way,
if we go on to a standard time, the fallback
to standard time means that we're going to and I
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always get this confused, we're going to have shorter days,
or in the morning it's going to be dark, and
it's going to the sun's gonna go down later, and
daylight saving times.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
It goes all the way around.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
And the big issue for a lot of people kids
waking up in the morning when it's pitch black and
going to school getting on buses where it's still dark.
That's the case now, I said earlier in the promo
for this segment. There are a group of people that
just do not care, don't give a rats, and they
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happen to be boys and girls. Neil, what would you.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Think whether it's the boys or the girls.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
No, I'll tell you the people that don't care us.
We don't care.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
I wake up in the at the crack of the
middle of the night or the crack at the middle
of the night daytime like night time, well it's obviously daytime,
but it's still way early and so always dark.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
So I don't care.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
I like bedding up when it's dark. I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I don't know because it used to be that I
would drive into the station. And since I moved back
home and the studio, I built the studio here at
my house, which a lot of people do. I'm an
hour and a half away from the station. I just
go downstairs, lights are on, and walk into the studio.
For example, I haven't showered in a week and a
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half and the only person I have to worry about,
of course, is Lindsey, who has a real nose problem.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
So that's that works for me.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Areas that don't observe daylight saving times would be able
to stay on permanent standard time. For example, you know Arizona,
who I don't move their clocks. They're on just straight
standard time. And what is it one state? I think
it's in Arizona where right in the middle of the
state it changes. So if you're going to on that
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line and you live on one side of that line,
and I'm talking about on one side of the street,
on the other side of the street, it's a different time.
And so there's a push to make this universal and
can the the.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Federal government mandate it?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yeah, I think it can, but the fight continues on
health risks. We want to be able to have more daylight.
We want to be able to have more daylight in
the evening. This is why you've got folks out there
in the workplace, certainly the golf course world. They want
to be able to stay. They want to be stay,
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want to be able to stay open longer. And there
was a survey that was just done in twenty twenty five,
the ap RC survey I Love surveys the current systems
of changing the clock twice a year is hugely unpopular.
Twelve percent favored the current system, forty seven percent were opposed,
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and forty percent were neutral. But the big story here
is twelve percent said it's a good idea. And in
the business world there's no consensus. You've got chambers of
commerce and businesses want to lure customers later in the
day and they support it. Agricultural interests and some industries
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oppose it. And which way do you go on this?
I mean, I find it a pain, Neil. Are you
do you enjoy the switching back and forth?
Speaker 3 (06:37):
No, no, no one does. I don't.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
And the other thing is it really screws people up,
which I don't understand. One hour to me means nothing,
but for Lindsey it takes for weeks to get over
that one hour difference and people are affected.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
So I'm fine.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I like day back daylight saving time, especially when you
have a long, long daylight. If you really like long daylights,
move the Norway. That's always the best way to do it. Okay,
now we have this researchers and scientists. We've obviously developed
hurricane warnings, that's easy, Tsunami warnings easy. An earthquake early
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warning system not as easy, but it's still there.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
But when it.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Comes to predicting cliff collapses along our shoreline, now that
gets tricky. But it's pretty serious stuff because every landslide
and tragic death along the coasts, officials have turned to
scientists for help, and it looks like it's finally worked.
There was a pilot study backed by decades of specialized research.
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Scientists at U SEE San Diego scripts Institute of Oceanography
say they may have finally cracked the code. A report
released this month, the team shared a proof of concept
and found that there are actually remarkably reliable ways to
detect a landslide a coastal landslide before it happens. The
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pilot study was able to predict five collapses at least
several hours, sometimes even days before they happened.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Adam Young, who is this one I.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Didn't even know existed, a coastal geo morphologist, who the
hell wakes up and says, hey, I want to be
a geomorphologist when I grow up. He's at scripts and
he said, we have a lot of confidence that what
we learned could and is applied. And as you can imagine,
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these buff collapses have been really high demand, especially along
California Coast PCH, where you go along the Pacific Coast
Highway and all of a sudden you have a cliff collapsing,
and PCH has taken out for months at a time,
and it's the only way up and down the coast
for the most part, high demand.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
And here we have sea level rise, a very strong El.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Nino on its way, and the experts are saying cliffs
could erode more than one hundred and thirty feet.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
By the end of the century, and that is a lot.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
And consequences of erosion well, they're pretty severe, severe on
major roads, railways, critical infrastructure, and they're deadly. At least
twenty five people have died in California due to landslides
in San Diego County. A whole bunch or people are
still reeling from a twenty nineteen collapse that killed three
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women in Incinita's. Similar collapse in San Francisco killed a
woman who was walking her dog. Don't want it to
hear dogs by the way, It'll kill you every time.
And so Tasha Berner, a Democrat, said, you know what,
let's come up with an early warning system. Now, she
admitted this is more science fiction than science. But when
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she weaked out the grips, the scientists said, hmm, let's
look at that. It's not going to be easy, but
we'll give it a try. And coastal cliffs are particularly
challenging to study. Why because look at all the variables
cliff height, wave action, the type of rock, the slope
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of the beach, all factor in how rainfall is, sleep
seeps into cracks, builds up pressure and leads to collapses.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
And the fact.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
That we want to build either on bluffs overlooking the
ocean or right at the shoreline, and if you're looking
at either of those, that affects erosion. It alters water
drainage and adds weight to the cliff. And we're talking
about houses on top of the cliffs. That's a lot
of weight. And the problem is when talking about cliffs,
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scientists speak and averages. Well, this can't be averages. Cliffs
tend to crumble very slowly unless they don't and all
of a sudden you got a collapse. And if you
have a cliff that averages one foot a year of movement,
maybe nothing happens for twenty years and then boom in
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one fell swoop comes the collapse. Now Professor Young, who
is considered one of the world's leading experts on coastal
bluff collapses, didn't know there was experts on coastal.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Coastal collapses bluff collapses.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Well, he spent decades developing sensors that take precise measurements
of these earthquakes. And when we talk about sensors, oh,
here's the technology seismometers we know about that for earthquakes
wave pressure sensors. Sensor called a tilt meter. Now, I
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thought a tilto meter was a ride one of these carnivals,
but no, it's a tilt meter which is used to
measure earthquake faults the movement, but it can also detect
how much the ground is tilting forward towards the ocean.
That has an accuracy of one eighth the width of
a human hair. They've also installed sensors that can detect
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movement up to one billionth of a meter. And then
sort of the more mundane stuff, rain gages advanced laser
imaging technology known as light ar that's used in what
do you call the self driving cars, and they can
predict and they seem to predict, and that is a
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big deal. So April seventh it rained, and again April fourteenth,
it rained. We're talking about this last April April nineteenth,
the tilt sensor measurements were accelerating at a rate that said, okay,
it looks like a collapsesm eminent according to scientists. So
they notified coastal managers. Two days later, five am, more
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than two hundred tons of cliff goes right onto the beach.
Now it was early in the morning, and thank goodness,
no one was hurt. So now you have this information,
what do you do with this information? Well, don't you
have to reach out to lifeguards, emergency managers, transportation agencies
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and other officials who are then going to side when
to close a beach or a road. And as I
said earlier, earthquakes getting better. Hurricanes, they're right on top
of that, with of course satellites and measuring, with measuring
which way storms are going tsunami, same thing, the chance
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of tsunami, but the most the most difficult way is
along the coast and measuring those coastal collapse. And if
you're nuts enough to buy something along the beach for
the last fourteen million dollars that you spent on a home,
let's say along the Orange County coast, what do you
think that's going to be worth ten years from now
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when your house is under a foot and a half
of water. Okay, exactly.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Now.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
One of the things about ice, immigration and custom form
enforcement is what's going on with the president the president,
and this is a political issue. The President promised that
he would clamp down on immigration, which he has done.
The President made some sweeping charges about illegal immigrants, which
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may or may not be true.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
I mean, we have a lot of them, and he
certainly stopped them from coming into country. And this was
one of the reasons that Trump got elected because that
was a fairly big thing. Well, immigration issues have gone
from a positive to for the administration to a negative
for the administration. It's turned around completely and politically that
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is not good news. And what is going on, Well,
the issue right now is the body camera issue. ICE
continues to operate mostly without body cameras, even in light
of promises to put them on and twenty million dollars
in funding, while there's a mounting death toll of people
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who have been shot and killed and shot also and wounded,
and the issue of civil rights certainly involved. So in
less than a week, ICE officers fatally shot a fifty
year old a Houston construction worker and a twenty six
year old man in Maine. The officers initially said that
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the were justified in firing because the men posed a threat.
In both cases they were targeted for traffic stops by agents,
but they weren't. They were mistakenly targeted for illegal immigrants. Now,
in the wake of the deaths, as you can imagine,
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there's a lot of backlash, and the Trump administration ordered
yesterday that okay, we're done. We have to limit isis
traffic stops. We have to redo this whole thing about
how we stop traffic. Tom Homan, the Czar of Immigration,
said this is only temporary. Oh no, We're still going
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to go after illegal aliens. It's just that these officers
need more training, and has promised more of these cameras
out there now. These cameras have become synonymous with accountability
in modern policing, and they can do one of two things.
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They can uncover a wrongdoing by the officers, which has happened.
In the case of ICE, I says one thing. Video
cameras say the other thing completely. Even bodycams say that
what was said is not what was done. And then
on the other side of it, when cops are accused
of wrongdoing, there's the bodycam. Oh you beat me up.
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Well no, here's the bodycam. Well you treated me like crap. No,
I was very professional. Here's the bodycam footage. So it
goes both ways. So these deaths come five months after
ICE issued a policy this February nineteenth mandating the use
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of bodycams during immigration enforcement activities, and god, I love this.
The Department of Homeland Security said that the officers involved
in each shooting were not wearing body cameras. Because back
to back Democrats shutdowns were delaying the rollout of the devices.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Here's the problem they have.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
The rollout meant absolutely nothing, or the shutdown governmental shutdown
had nothing to do with these body cams. On the
way ICE was acting, ICE had more money than it
knows what to do with. It's a wash with money.
It's as it ducks to get money from coming one way,
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is getting hit by money the other way. So that's
just absolutely not true. And I love the issue. No
matter what goes wrong, it is going to be the
fault of the Democrats. I guarantee you that's going to
be Inflation's coming back. It's the Democrats. It's the Biden
that did this. It's the Democrats that are trying to
destroy America.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
I don't know if you first.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
And this was one of a slew of directives and
statements that came out on Donald Trump's first day of office,
and I found the most interesting one is that the
administration put the blame on the killing of the Lindberg
baby straight onto the Democrats. The Democrats just do it,
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don't they. By the way, that's a fun topic. The
Lindberg baby kidnapping. Charles Limberg there's a whole history there.
The problem is that ICE has had the money to
put bodycams on every single agent agent, they've had the time,
and they just haven't done it. It's a very slow
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rollout and it's costing a lot of grief. Why well,
how about this. Cameras did help, but these were these
were not bodycam footage, but these were witnesses.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Because everybody has a phone.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
So here what happened July seventh, a week ago, early
morning hours, officers tried to pull over Lorenzo Salgatta, a rajo,
fifty two year old Mexican national legally working here. According
to ICE, he ignored orders from officers and then quote
weaponized his vehicle in an attempt to run over an agent,
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and the Asians fired shots and self defense, killing him.
Witnesses in the car said, no, that's not what happened
at all. Later on, I said, well, we thought a
Rujo was someone else when they tried to stop them.
And then six days later, an ICE officer fatally shoots Juan. Yeah,
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I think it's Juan Sebastian Guerrero. They saw him exit
the house of someone else who had been under removal
order attempted to pull him over, and once again he
weaponized his vehicle.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Well that changed because for the sorry for the cough.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
That changed from weaponizing the vehicle is he attempted to
flee when he was tried to be stopped and the
agent fired at him, killing him because the agent feared
for public safety. Not a weaponization, mind you, that's off
the table. It is somehow public safety was involved as
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he was leaving, as he was trying to get away.
We'll find out. Is their bodycam No there is not.
Is there video? I think there is. Remember Christinome, the
then Department of Homeland Security, she promised DHS law enforcement
across the country and promise that ICE agents would begin
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wearing body cameras. This was after the shooting deaths of
Hernee Good and Alex Pretty. You remember that one killed
by ICE in Minneapolis, and DHS officials initially described both
of them Good and Pretty as domestic terrorists. Well they
dropped that one, didn't they domestic terrorists? Come on, give
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me a break, all right, A story about a restaurant. Now,
there are a couple of restaurants in southern California that
are just iconic restaurants. I remember the Brown Derby, which
is no longer around. The brown Derby was originally going
to be the Brown Beret, but it turned out that
the owner had a horrible experience with some bad bree
cheese and decided to call it the brown Derby. By
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the way, that's absolutely not true.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Another moment handle history that is correct. So that's gone
by the wayside. And Chasin's another big one that is
no longer there. Musso and Frank's still there. They've been
around since the twenties.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Still fantastic. Yeah, this is a new wine room and.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
You can actually go And this is where I went
when I took I think Lindsay for our first date
and we sat at the table where Marilyn Row was
asked to well, Joe Dimajo proposed to Marilyn Roe. So
it's pretty exciting stuff. Another restaurant that's a little newer,
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but a really really well known as Dantana's. And there
was a nineteen eighty restaurant that destroyed it. There's a
new memoir by the owner, the guy.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Who was started by everybody.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Or a restaurant a fire, a nineteen eighty fire, Oh
I say, restaurant.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
A restaurant destroyed it.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Okay, a restaurant did destroy it. It was fine.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
It was a fire that destroyed it. Okay, thank you
for that. Yeah, there, don't do that again. And it
had to do. And the story of how this thing
came into being nineteen eighty Dantannas, which was an okay restaurant, explodes.
The family vacation or the family was vacationing in Yugoslavia
because the guy who owned it is yugoslav like my
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father is. And a telegram arrived saying the restaurant burned
it down. So Dantanna, the owner, flies back to La
and he's trying to He's looking at this building that
has burnt to a crisp, but on what used to
be the front door there it's handwritten signs, rebuild it.
This is our home. Don't change a thing. So who
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got involved? Linda Ronstadt got involved, Governor Jerry Brown, who
she was dating, got involved, and all of a sudden,
d'antana became the became the center of Hollywood in terms
of restaurants. It was the darling of the Hollywood crowd.
Some great stories. Frank Sinatra once offered to buy the
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restaurant and Dantanna said no, not interested, and he said,
I'm never going to step foot in that restaurant again.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
And was. He's a very interesting guy who started it.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
He was marked by political oppression under communist rule.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
His dad was a political prisoner.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
He was a soccer star and came the United States
when he defected to Belgium because it was still under
a it was still under communist regime. And what a
terrific story about Dan Tanner. And if you look at
the people who have gone there. Johnny Carson once called
it his favorite restaurant. Elizabeth Taylor, Richard Burton, Marilyn Rose
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to go there. They were all a list customers and
Dan Tanner refused to pander to celebrities. He got people waited.
If there was a line, everybody waited, and they made
the same reservations. He refused to give a list people
any kind of priority.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Very well loved guy. Uh and uh.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
He becomes this hangout by chance because of Linda Ronstad.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Another story I want to share with.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
You is it is raining in New York and the
restaurant critic of New York I forgot his name, well
known restaurant critic is trying to get out of the
rain and he steps into uh this entryway where there
was an awning and it said, uh, to be honest,
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that's actually not he be honest, it's uh, what's the
name of the restaurant?
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Am I am? I mind?
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Anyway?
Speaker 2 (26:27):
I know I'm old that Temporo restaurant or Timpani restaurant
where you play the timp the tympans for the timpany.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
And that's not the name of the restaurant, Bennie Hannah, Neil,
It's it's Benny Hannah. I know you were trying to
confuse me, but it's it's been a Bennie haha.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Uh breakfast at Timpanies.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Yes, it was a breakfast attimpaneese.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Yeah, which you get to both eat or by jewelry,
or you can be in an orchestra with breakfast attemp. Anyway,
the point is that, so he goes into the restaurant
and decides, oh my god, this is terrific. It was
a failing restaurant. He wrote about it. And look what
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Beny Hanna is today, international restaurant, all because of just
some pure luck.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
And you never know. You never know.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
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onto our show and they hear me my brilliant way
of describing things and never forgetting words, they're not going
off on tangents, and they realize this is a show
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