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It is a Wednesday morning, August twelfth day, Bottom of
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what the president did a couple of days ago. Sure,
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white House dot com. Okay, So what happened yesterday, Well,
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there was a visit from two Cabinet members secretaries who
came to LA for the sole purpose of blasting la
HSA Los Angeles Housing Authority humans. And bottom line is
they came here to not only blast this organization, they
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came to tell us why in't going to get any
more money from the feds? Two hundred and forty million dollars,
I might add, and there is a couple of federal
judgments that have come in from judges, which I'll talk
about in a few minutes. So HUDDS suspends two hundred
and forty million dollars do August twenty six from the
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Housing Authority.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
And does it go, does it disappear?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
It really doesn't, because what it does is force the
providers of that service or those services that are controlled,
and they're accountable to the organization LA HSA, that department
and says, we're not going to give LAHA two hundred
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and forty million dollars.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Do you want that money?
Speaker 3 (03:01):
We're willing to give it to you, but you whatever
organization you are, have to apply directly to the federal government.
We want to see what you're doing at the organization level,
not this housing authority, which does a horrible job. And
the corruption in the mismanagement is astronomical. You know, is
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there some truth of that?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yeah? I think so.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
So this was a press conference yesterday Department of Housing
and Urban Development Secretary Scott Turner and then Health in
Human Services Secretary Crazy Robert Kennedy. I mean they ripped
into the LA Homeless Services Authority, and Turner said, our
aim is that LASA doesn't receive another dollar until it
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has accountability. He was, Oh God, I love the way
this administration does this. He was framed by American flags
and there were jumbo TV screens behind him blaring the
words cancel corruption. Oh yeah. And as an example, the
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money that was wasted by LASS a lack of controls,
financial controls. Turner sites the recent federal indictment alleging a
homeless services provider frees the system of twenty three million
dollars in fraudulent billings. I want you to know something
for it. To take a break and I'll come back
and finish. Step before doctor Keeney comes aboard is that
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the organizations that are accused of mismanagement and fraud are
all in blue states. They're all run by what the
Trump administration considers liberal groups. You won't see accusation of
mismanagement and corruption in red states or in the military
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eight hundred billion dollars and they're there is no corruption
in the military. It's only these agencies that are in
blue states. Does that mean that the administration is wrong. No,
there's all kinds of problems with agencies like this because
it's not their money, especially on the agency level. Now
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the providers themselves, Yeah, it's their money because they want
to stay alive, because they provide services, and for the
most part, they're run by people who really care.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
They're not in for the money.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
You don't see, Well, there's some people that milk these
organizations for money and are thieves and corruption rampant, but
for the most part, you know, they actually care and
that's what they're in it for. You've got two cabinet
members that came to town Department of Housing Urban Development Secretary
Scott Turner, Health and Human Services Secretary the insane Robert
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Kennedy ripping into the Los Angeles Homelessness Service Authority or
Homeless Service Authority, saying that the agency is just ridden
with management and abuse and just straight corruption. And the
bottom line had to do with two hundred and forty
million dollars that loss was supposed to get August twenty six,
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and Kennedy and Turner said, Nope, you're not getting it
because there's no accountability and we're going to send the
money directly if applied for by the agencies that supply
the services. The Homeless Authority doesn't actually supply the services.
They contract with providers.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
So with that, lawsuits were filed all over the place
and a couple of judges halted money not being paid.
Particularly it was Rhode Island. Here it hasn't happened yet
and when asked about the lawsuit, by the way, we're
talking about the Rhode Island lawsuit blocking their funding shift
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during questioning. This is at a press for his Turner said,
we're working on that right now. All right, because there's
obviously a lot of controversies. I pointed out earlier the
organizations that are corrupt, mismanagement, that don't have accountability, or
only in blue states. As you know, there's no such
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thing as corruption in red states doesn't exist, and certainly
in the military that doesn't exist. And so here is
the fun one, all right. Turner reaches down from behind
the lectern and he pulls out a bag, a brown
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paper bag, and he said, I learned they're giving our
homeless neighbors. This is what they're giving our homeless neighbors
with American taxpayer dollars, which he's talking about the agency.
This is drug paraphernalia that's in this bag. This brown
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bag is handed to people, homeless, people who are addicted
to drugs. And then he reaches into the bag and
takes out a sandwich. Oh, no, the wrong bag. That's
not what I wanted to give you, So instead he
takes out this drug paraphernalia, proof positive that the entire
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agency is riddled with corruption.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
God, I love that.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
For example, a horrible killing takes place by an illegal
alien that crosses the border. Now how about American citizens
that don't have to cross the border that also commit
horrible crimes, Well, what can you do?
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Deport them? No?
Speaker 3 (08:44):
And so he's a drug paraphernalia discovered in a bag that.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Has been picked up by authorities.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
By the way, how about money in brown bags that
are going to let's say, gain people from You've got
federal federal employees that are full of cash.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Are you really going to defend watza?
Speaker 3 (09:10):
No, I'm what I'm doing is I'm ripping into what
the feds are using for examples. Uh.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
There should be many more. There should be accountability. No. No, Uh.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
And I agree with the the government is not shutting
off the money. The government is saying, I want we
want providers, specific providers to come up with a plan.
Oh no, loss, It's crazy. I mean, there's full of
full of corruption. I'm a good visit that. The other
thing that I have a problem with is that Turner
and Kennedy both endorse faith faith based recovery programs over
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them alternatives preferred by the administration.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
And they had this press conference at La Dream Center,
a former hospital converted into a faith based residential treatment center,
and saying this is an example of the type of
program we want a much more effective solution. Now I
have a problem, and I'll tell you I have a problem.
It's not because I'm not a Christian. That doesn't bother me, obviously,
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but the whole concept of what works are faith based
program and they do. But how about other programs that work?
I mean, are we working on the concept we are
a Christian nation and the reality is we're not. We're
a Jewish nation, We're a Muslim nation. We are a
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nation of other religions behind That's what we are. And
I would love for them not to have put a
center in front of a faith based By the way,
faith based is Christian straight out, There's no question about it.
And this is where the government is getting involved. And
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why would they do this in front of a religious
organization that's based in religion. That's like the govern announcing
programs from Brigham Young University about universities all over the country.
How about a state university?
Speaker 1 (11:09):
You about a complaining Nor was anybody else when that
dreams that same dream center was at the pinnacle of
helping out during the film.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
No, I'm not arguing.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
I am not arguing, but I but it's The problem
is is that these are examples of success. And I
just I personally, well, I'm a big, big believer of
separation of church and state, huge believer that the state
has no business getting involved with religion under any circumstances
at all. And that's the problem that I have, I
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always have, And I just want to point that out.
That was just an aside, just a personal just a
personal view. But as you successfully point out, Neil, as
you do point out, and you're right, is that LASA
is not a great organization. We just don't deal with
homeless particularly well. And by the way, if these agencies
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are going to if they're going to request funds, if
they're going to apply for funds directly to the federal government,
what kind of oversight is that going to be? The
Feds are going to oversee, for example, a drug treatment
center that's out in Pacoima.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Who's going to do that? You know what bureaucracy is
going to do that?
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Do you think that just increases exponentially the account of
the number of people and establishing new bureaucracy measures to
deal with this and deal with accountability. I mean, there's
no easy answer here. And am I coming up with
an answer. Well, yeah, give me the money. I'll come
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up with something.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Why not.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Okay, so much for that, And before we jump in
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Speaker 2 (13:22):
Okay, Bill, Oh yeah, thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Well yeah, Doctor Jim Keeney, chief medical officer for Dignity
Saint Mary Medical Center in Long Beach and also a
board certified er.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Doctor Jim, good morning and always thank you for being here.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Morning Bill.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Okay, see that's your turn. Good morning, and then you
say good morning back. I've always wondered about that, all right.
A couple days ago, I was it yesterday? A couple
days ago, the President came out with his new vaccine
guidance and what he said to me sounded absolutely stupid.
On a level, that is, we are the same or approaches.
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His comments when COVID first came out and he suggested
using bleach, injecting bleach into your body to deal with COVID,
and I thought that was a brilliant idea. And now
the vaccine guidance and specifically splitting up the MMR vaccine
into three different shots at different times. And even Bill Cassidy,
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who is the Senator for Kentucky, was a doctor who
just went out of his mind saying this is crazy.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Your thoughts, Yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Mean, I don't know who goes to the President of
the United States for medical advice. It's just it's a
weird dynamic, right. We usually for the tried and true
way that healthcare has been done now for decades is
that we ask scientists questions, they do studies, we get answers.
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Sometimes the answers are right, sometimes the answers are wrong,
but they're kind of the best possible source for you know,
how we're going to approach things. So the idea that
the President is just going to unilaterally make a new
plan for how we give vaccines, there's so many problems
with this. We can talk about it for hours, but
I mean timing for childhood vaccines is heavily researched. A
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lot of times you're fighting against time, right, So whooping cough,
for example, it's it's very dangerous in the first few
months of life. That's where it's most critical. You know,
when you get If you get it when you're a teenager,
it's very annoying, it can take you out of school
for a long period of time. It lasts a while,
but it's probably not as life threatening as if you
get it in the first one or two months of life.
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So when we give the vaccine, the timing is created
to try and reduce the highest risk. So that's why
we're giving it so early, and that's why it's there.
Same thing with homophlis influence that we've talked about that
one before. It's not fluid. This is a different, totally
different disease, and that's the HIV vaccine. And now on
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the timing is important because of when kids get sick
and when they're more critically ill if they do get sick.
So just randomly saying we're going to spread these out,
we're going to divide them up, then there's the dividing
up issue that's a whole nother problem. You know, it's
hard to get parents and kids into the doctor's office,
creating multiple visits, are creating multiple failure points, you know,
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where suddenly we forgot you know, Johnny has a soccer
game this afternoon, and so we'll reschedule that doctor's appointment,
and then it never gets rescheduled. So we do know,
and there's good data that the more you the more
inconvenient make it, the more you break up the vaccination schedule,
the less people can apply with it.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Okay, so it's Trump not just being Trump and giving
medical advice. This is straight out dangerous stuff. This is
certainly And where does he get this information?
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
And then of course he brought up the old saw
autism vaccines means autism, and he came up with one
example I think of someone he had met where the
kid got vaccinated and somehow was connected to or got
also got autism. When does that stop? And that's not
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a political question. Is there anybody out there in the
scientific world that does the connection, because I know there
was one and the doctor was he lost his medical
license and it was completely debunked. Are there others out
there that are promoting this connection autism and vaccines.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Well, I mean, doctors are like are a cross section
of society. So if there are people in society who
have more of a philosophical belief about this and they're
not basing it on science, then there's going to be
doctors like that as well. So you're going to find
doctors probably who who might still believe, but they're extremely rare,
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you know, like when we talked about mandating the flu shot.
So you know, we get raided by a Center for
Medicare and Medicaid on what percentage of our doctors are
vaccinated against the flu, because they recognize that to protect
the American health system if there was an outbreak, we
need our doctors that work in hospitals to be vaccinated
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against the flu so they don't get taken down by it.
And so we talked at one of my hospitals about
about mandating it for our doctors because it was never
mandated before, and there were on a medical staff of
nine hundred people, there were two that were adamant that
influenza vaccine is not helpful, but the other eight hundred
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and ninety eight thought that, you know, science rules, so
you'll always find those people. I mean, there's just no
way around it. It's been proven. I mean it's it's
been as close to be proven as you know. Scientists
are very reluctant to say something's proven, but it's been
shown by extensive studies over decades.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Now, Okay, let's do this.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
We'll take a final break, we'll come back, and I
have a story about Will, Will Colchstreiber and a medical issue.
I know you're looking at me Will strangely, but there
is a connection here. So we're going to bring you
to the forefront here. And as I segue into this
next segment is promised when I went into our break,
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this is for you, Will, because there's going to be
medical advice here, Okay, and you so you are the
poster child of this, and here it is, Okay, abdominal
fat that's you, heart disease maybe maybe you, and determining
predicting risk for heart disease.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Jim, as you to point that out, tell us about it.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
And point to Will, if you will point to Will.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
I don't know how you get people to work on
the show.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Unt I don't get it either, And it's not like
they do it for the money either.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
This is iHeart.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
But yeah, so we've talked about this before that abdominal
fat is it's not the same as other fat in
your body. It's metabolically active, it's hormonally active, it's inflammatory.
So abdominal fat is more dangerous for your health than
overall you know, extra weight. And so the study though
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is good because this was a two hundred and sixty
thousand patient study that's huge, followed them for twenty years,
so this is good data. It's still observational study, meaning
that we're just you know, seeing what happens. It's not
an intervention or you know, like a randomized control trial.
It's just observational. But what it shows is that more
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important than your actual or your BMI is your waist
size and especially your waist to hip ratio. So good
news for you know, people with those big booties that
don't have a large stomach, right because what you're measuring
is your your stomach, your waste right above your hips,
and if that is a lot bigger than your hips
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or right below you know, where your buttocks, the largest
area around your buttocks, then that's a problem. And that
means that you have some highly metabolically active inflammatory and
hormonally active fat in there at apose tissue. That's going
to put you out of much higher risk for heart disease.
And even when they look at either people with normal BMIs,
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but this is abnormal, they're at higher risk. People that
have high BMIs, but this is in the safe range.
They're actually safer than we think. So this is a
better indicator. It costs like five cents for a tape measure.
It's you know, no fancy tests only.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Okay, here's a question. I'm going to get personal here.
I have reached normal weight. I've been losing weight, and
I'm one hundred and seventy pounds, which is basically normal
weight for someone my heighth although you know, I used
to be six to one. I'm now five to three.
You tend to shrink a little bit.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
And so I'm normal weight. I have a thirty four
inch waist.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
I haven't had a thirty four inch waist, by the way,
since I was three years old. But I have fat
around my stomach even with a normal weight, and I'm
assuming that there are people like me that just can't
get rid of it. I mean, it's just part and parcel,
and I have no ass by the way, you know,
when I lost all my weight, I lost all my
weight in my ass as a matter of fact, flutters
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in a good win. You can put painted with American
flag colors and it.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Just body has assumed you you are one hundred ass now.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Thank you, So Jim, you know, so I know a
lot of people that have this problem, especially guys, where
they just can't get rid of fat even with a
normal weight. And so I go to you and say,
what do I do? Am I in trouble? And what
can I do?
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Right? I mean, well, we all live in this lifestyle
where we go to work forty hours a week or
maybe more that you come home with a lack of
energy to really put a lot of effort into exercising,
working out, And then we eat this American diet that's
high and highly processed foods, and we expect that somehow
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we're not going to have risk for heart disease and
it's just not true. So well, I admit it's extremely
hard to get for some people to get rid of that.
The environment we live in just sets us up for failure.
So you know, you've got to change something if you
want to be in the better category. Where you're going
to actually do this. Now, listen, A secondary measurement in
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this study, which is kind of interesting, is your height
fifty percent of your height, and your waist should be
smaller than that. Now above forty inches of a way
as high risk no matter what your height is, pretty much.
But you know, say you're six feet tall with us,
that's seventy two, right, so half of seventy two is
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thirty six, so you should be you should be thirty
six inch waist if you're six feet tall.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Yeah, and that's me.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
But I still have fat around my stomach and it
still means I'm going to die of a heart attack
next week, right, No.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Not necessarily, because like I said, this is a secondary marker,
and you seem to be in the safe zone for
that particular one now ideally the one that is closer
indicated to a risk for heart disease. And remember heart
disease is one of the number one killers. So we're
all out of high risk for heart disease, so you're
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not going to reduce it to zero. On the other hand,
you know, you do the best you can to get
to that measurement, and we know that if you are
in that time in that zone. Well, now we have
to reduce, we have to really focus on doing whatever
we can to redo your other heart risk, make sure
that your blood sugar is under control, that you're getting exercise,
all those types of things.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
All right, Jim as always, Thank you, sir. We'll talk
again and we'll probably get together over the weekend. Jim
and I actually hang as hard to believe, and I
know he generally ties it, tries to deny it, but
it does happen.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Jim, you have a good one. Take care, Take care.
All right, We're done, guys. That's it.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
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