February 4, 2025 • 26 mins
KFI tech reporter and host of ‘Rich on Tech’ Rich DeMuro joins the show to talk about CVS utilizing new tech for security and the Pebble Electric Travel Trailer. How fast can Los Angeles get rid of all the debris from the fires? Aspirin parents have a new DNA test to obsess over.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
KFI AM six forty Bill Handle here. It is a
Tuesday morning, February the fourth. Then, since it is Tuesday,
and since it is eight o'clock, it is time for
a tech segment with Rich Tomorrow, kfi's tech reporter, host
of Rich on Tech here on Saturdays KFI and that's
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eleven am to two pm. And you can follow him
rich on well Instagram, at rich on Tech website, rich
on tech Dot TV.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Morning Rich, Hey, Good morning to Bill Hockey Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Good good to you.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Yes, real quickly before we get into the topics, big congratulations,
big kudos. Your show, syndicated show just got into New York.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
And for those of us.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
That are sort of familiar with all this, getting into
New York is almost a miracle.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
I mean that that's no small deal.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I'm not kidding. I wrote this on my Instagram. The
first question I asked when I heard I was getting
a show was will it be on in New York City?
And the answer was no. And that was that was
two years ago, and I've been asking, I've literally been
begging ever since, and finally they said, okay, I think
we think you're ready. And so this weekend, the same
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show that you hear in LA will be on in
New York City.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Now, I've been doing a handle on the Law since
nineteen eighty five. It's on two hundred and sixty stations
give or take, you know what.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
You know what city. It's not in New York. Yeah, yeah,
well I'm.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Telling you you know New York here too, Bill Miracle,
I've been producing the Jesus Show that has been on
for over two decades and it's national.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
I don't think we're on in New York. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
It's it's not easy to do it really is. It's
it's it's a big, big deal. So congratulations and.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Very well done.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yeah, thank you. This is this was a big part
of it, Bill, doing this with you. You know, I
learn from the best, and you know this is this
helped this. You know, people want good tech information and
you know, hopefully we can give it to all.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah, you don't have to suck it up. Okay, that's fine.
Uh what was it?
Speaker 3 (02:18):
It's Premier Radio, right, are they syndicating you?
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Yeah, the radio the same.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Syndication company that I work with, and uh, you know,
as powerful as they are, and they're the biggest syndication
company in the world. Getting into New York is almost impossible,
So good for you. All right, let's move right into
who just went was that you?
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Okay, no, all right, I don't know who that was.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Let's talk about iPhones unlocking locked cabinets at stores like CBS.
Going to CVS and trying to get a bottle of
shampoo that's in a locked case and you have to
call the clerk over done lock it is. It's like
beyond horrible. And there's now technology this sort of bypasses that.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yeah, this is pretty common in the LA area I know,
and mohere I live, they have locked up everything, uh
slowly but surely. And so yes, like you said, you
got to go into these aisles. It makes you almost
not want to shop there because you got to call
someone and wait for someone to come over and unlock
the case. And in the case of a Walmart that
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I went to, not only do they unlock the case
and give you the product, but then they lock it
up in a secondary case. So you bring it to
the kech here in a lock.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Box, I know, you get a yeah, a razor blade
and it comes into a box that you can shoe
box size box.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Yes, crazy, Yeah, So what does this do?
Speaker 2 (03:47):
So?
Speaker 3 (03:48):
What does this does? How does it undo that?
Speaker 1 (03:51):
So CBS is trying to use technology to help shoppers.
So the idea is that you have the CVS app
installed on your phone. You're logged in, and when you
go to one of these shelves, you can use the
app on your phone to unlock the box and so
that you can you know, pull out your deodorant or
whatever you need, the shampoo bottle and then it locks
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back up and so you don't have to call someone over.
You can do it from your phone. And the idea
is to make this easier, but also they know who
you are. It's not going to be for everyone. You're
logged into the app. It gets people to download the app,
It eases some of the frustration. Right now, they're testing
this at just a handful of stores, but they're expecting
or hoping to expand it to more stores before rolling
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it out to every store. If it works, I mean,
the idea is that you know, hopefully this still cuts
down on thefts, but it makes it easier for people
to shop there.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah, But the whole point of course is security, which
you've just undone some security. And so what you're saying
is that the safeguards that they know who you are,
they know what time it's being done, they can timestamp
at all of that is enough to charity whether you
can unlock those ridiculous cabinets.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Is that the philosophy.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Yeah, I mean it sounds like a good idea because
you know, if it works for the consumer. I mean,
to me, like, I've stopped going as a stores that
I know, or I've stopped buying things that those stores
that I know are locked up. So if I knew that, oh,
I can walk into the CBS. I've got the app
on my phone. Yeah, it's a little headache to log
in and sign up and all that stuff. But at
the same time, if I can do that, I know
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I can go into that store, it might actually be
a better process because I know I can walk straight
to that aisle, grab what I need, unlock the case,
grab what I need, and get out of there without
waiting for someone. So it might actually be a good
thing for sales. But balancing the idea that people just
apparently steal everything they can get their hands on at
these stores.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Yeah, and waiting for someone in this day and age,
when they keep a skeleton staff no matter what, and
you're waiting for a clerk who the last thing the
clerk wants to do is come over there and open
the case and then relock it. Or you're looking at it.
I don't think so put it.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Back in, right.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
You feel guilty now once they bring it over, like
once they open the case. You know, if you're buying
like shampoo or deodorant, whatever it is. You know, people
like to linger, they like to look at the labels,
they like to smell it. But you can't do any
of that when the person comes over. It's like this
pressure of like, okay, let me just choose. Well, just
take that one and you run out of there, you know, all.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Right, Rich were don't talk about the super Bowl? And
uh yeah, I don't want to. Okay, it's here's what's
gonna happen. We when I watch the Super Bowl and
the Chiefs are probably gonna win, and or they're not
going to win.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Okay, we're done now.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
The reason I am switching gears is during the break,
Neil was talking about a segment that you were talking
about on your show this past weekend about this new trailer,
an electric trailer, and he got so excited about well,
he's been so excited about he wanted to talk about it,
and I go, okay, so what's tell me about it?
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Because this is new stuff, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yeah, it's really really cool. So this got a lot
of publicity. A couple of years ago they came out
with the video that showed off some of the But
now I actually went up to Fremont, California, up near
San Francisco to actually try this thing out. So it's
called the Pebble Flow and it's a it's a high
tech RV, so it's it's been reinvented from the ground up.
It's all electric. A lot of guys from Tesla and
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SpaceX and Rivian and NASA, those are the people that
are building this thing. And basically the guy who started
it told me like, hey, you know, I really during
the pandemic, I really wanted to start rving, but it
was a pain to back this thing up, all the
considerations you had to have, and he said, so there
has to be a better way to get r ving
to a new generation of people like myself that are
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smartphone centric and so I think the neatest feature, besides
all the you know, the fact that this thing looks
really nice, the neatest feature Bill is that you take
an iPad. This thing is in your driveway or on
the street, and you use the iPad to drive it around,
like to a parking spot. So it's not like driving
per se. But it's moving, so you can spin it around.
Three hundred and sixty two.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Well it moves on it and I'm looking at it is,
but does it moves on its own?
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Yes, it moves on its own. It's wild. You you
literally control it with an iPad app. And so when
I first they said here, take the controller. They didn't
tell me how to do it. They just said try it.
And so I'd start putting my hands on the iPad.
And when you start seeing this thing move, this giant
you know, six thousand pounds RV, your brain thinks, oh,
this thing's just gonna roll down the street, right because
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you've never seen it unhitched moving. And sure enough you stop,
you take your hand off the iPad, it stops moving.
You rotate it around, it stops moving. I mean, it's
such a cool feature that that alone is enough to
make a lot of people. You know, Okay, I can
move over this thing into my parking lot now or
my campsite, but it keeps going. So you've got this
magic hitch feature, which means you put the thing near
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your car, the hitch on the back of your car,
and it will find the hitch and hitch itself, just
like you know the guy who worked on the Space station.
That's who worked on this seriously. And then it's got
this other feature where it automatically levels itself out and
it gets to your campsites. You don't have to figure
out how to make it level. You just tap a
button and it will figure out the ground, where to
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put the things up and down whatever you need to do.
Really cool and by the way, all electrics, so you
can use it as a ADU if you want in
your driveway, I mean obviously check your local regional laws
or whatever. You could use it as a mobile office.
You can use it to charge your EV because it's
got a big battery and solar on the top. Price
tag over one hundred thousand dollars for this pebble flow.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
It's beautiful and I'm looking at a video of it,
and now do you need a super car to.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Tow it, or can you do it with an SUV
for example, Yeah, you should be able to.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
And that's the other feature that it has built into
It actually has its own electric motor in it, so
we try driving it with the motor on and off.
So when you have the motor on, it actually helps
propel your car forward. So it's using the idea that
a lot of people might be using EV's, Like the
kind of people that might buy this might also have
an EV, so you know, if you're trailing something behind
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your EV, you're gonna use a ton of energy. So
this actually will propel itself to save the energy from
your car. They say, I think they said you get
about double the mileage that you would typically get if
you weren't if you weren't propelling.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
And are they selling? You know, what sizes do they
come in? That's the first question.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
So it's one size right now, and it's you know,
they put a lot of thoughtful features into it. It's
got a nice big kitchen. It's got a sleeping area,
another sleeping area kind of a pull out bed like
a murphy bed that turns into an office area. You've
got you know, like I said, a ton of storage.
Oh the other thing that's cool are the glass. The
glass on this thing has an electrostatic feature so that
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you tap a button on it and the glass goes frosted,
and then you tap the button again and the glass
goes clear. So in the bathroom it's got that and
also on the other windows. So one size right now.
They're hoping, you know, in the future to make different sizes.
But this thing is a startup, you know, they got
to get off the ground. They've got to get people
interested in actually purchasing this thing and proving that they can,
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you know, make this thing better over times.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Absolutely gorgeous. Yeah, I can see why Neel that all
excited about that.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Would I buy one a you know, i'd rent one first,
but they're probably not for rent. All right, really quickly,
let's talk about the Super Bowl coming up and how
you can watch it in four K this year for free.
First question is why, I mean, is there a big difference?
And two how do you watch it for free? Because
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I assume it's going to cost you money otherwise.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Yeah, yeah, I mean you could watch it, you know,
obviously over the air, but this is the first time
they're going to be streaming it in four K for free,
you got to get the two B app t U
b I. This is Fox's free, free ad supported streaming service.
But the trick is, even if you have the app,
you still have to have two things to watch this
in four K. You have to have a four K
enable TV, which duh, I mean if you're going to
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be watching it four K, But you also have to
have a four K enabled streaming device. That's a Roku
that's a Fire TV stick or a Fire TV device,
an Apple TV or an Android TV that runs Google.
All of those have to be four K, plus your
TV has to be four K. Those two things for
this to line up and give you four K for
free on the Super Bowl. The other thing bill is
(12:23):
to be Typically you can download the app and just
start watching for the Super Bowl game. They of course
got smart and said no, we want to collect a
lot of email addresses, so you do have to sign
in with your email address. It's still free, but my
advice is to do this now. Don't wait until people
come over to your house to set this up. Download
it now, sign up now. Make sure you're ready to
go for the big game on.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Sunday, Okay, are you going to be watching?
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Of course I'm rooting for the Chiefs because of you know,
Taylor Swift and my wife.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Wow, you know what, I wouldn't admit that, Cono cut
that out? Would you? For the when we do?
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Are you going to use the dumb but we.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Already we already have rich don't you don't any of that?
All right, we'll catch you this weekend. Congratulations on New York,
by the way, and we'll see a next We'll see
an next Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
All right.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
For those of you that are unfortunately have been affected
by the fires and their thousands and those who know
people affected, which is tens of thousands, what's going on
right now is people looking at their homes and they
have to remove what was once there burn toxic, explosive
in some cases, remnants of houses, possessions, and so the
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issue of how long it may take to rebuild right
now is not even on the table.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
It's how long will it be to remove the debris
that's the problem.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
So you have an estimated sixty one hundred homes burning
out Tadena, fifty five in Palisades, and everyone wants the
debris remove.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
From their property.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Like now, there are a couple of things about this
that I want to share with you that I was
talking to a contractor. And by the way, no one
wants to take the debris. I mean, it's a real
nimby issue. So residents in the San Gabriel Valley near
Lario Park, that's where the Eaton fire is going to
have its garbage spread, they're thrilled with that one, the debris.
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And then the Topanga the Palisades fire going to go
to a location near Topanga Canyon and Pacific Coast Highway
owned by the county. All right, So the US Army
Corps engineer, the colonel who's in charge, who's overseeing the
phase two debris removal process, said that that stage stage
two will take less than a year. And it used
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to say, or the word was it was taken to say,
three months to make a dent. Karen Vass said, no,
it's closer to one month, and there are a lot
of issues going on. Number one, the logistical challenge. First
phase can only be done by the EPA as long
as it's still around, and that's hazardous materials, paints, cleaners,
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car batteries.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Some properties can take longer than others.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Obviously, if you have a home solar system with batteries,
that's going to be a different story. And the timeline
for the EPA to accomplish removal has gone down from
three months to one month. And this is a lot
of pressure from the Trump administration and local officials. The
Trump administration has come down hard and saying you have
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to clean this up as quickly as possible.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Some properties will be cleared earlier than others, clearly.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
I mean, if you only have so many excavators, so
many dump truck someone's got to go first and last.
The second phase involves structural debris foundations, recyclables, trees, and
up to six inches of soil that's on the property.
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That can take two to ten days per property. And
here's what homeowners get to do. They get a choice.
You can either do it yourself and assuming your insurance
covers it, have your insurance pay for it. Or you
can have it done for free. And that's using the
Army Corps of Engineers. Who is going to in this
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organization will clear the debris on your property.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
So who is going to pay?
Speaker 2 (16:26):
I mean, if it's free from the Army Corps of Engineers,
they know what they're doing. Why would you ever do.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
It for free? Aha?
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Here is the catch here, and that is if the
Army Corps of Engineer comes in and cleans out goes
the foundation. And if you are building from scratch, starting
with a lot, now you're subject to all of the codes,
the new rules. For example, the setback. It used to
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be that the setback was five feet from the street. Well,
under the new rule that've been passed a few years ago,
the setback is now eight feet. And if you tear
out the foundations and have to build again on what
is a lot, you now have to add another three
feet worth the setback. And then we're talking about codes
all over the place, the earthquake codes, I mean all
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of it. And so a lot of people are saying,
wait a minute. If you keep the foundation and it's
easy to find out if they're cracked or not, the
foundations in decent shape, that's an easy call. Then you
use the existing footprint and you use a lot of
the existing code. That's why you see when someone is
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remodeling their home and literally taking it down to the foundation,
there's always one wallup.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
They always keep one wallup because.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
That makes it a remodel, not a new build, and
there's a huge difference, and how many homes are actually
going to be rebuilt. That becomes problematic because I was
just told I was stunned this.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
A couple days ago.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
I was having a conversation with someone who really knows
this stuff, and I said, how much does it cost
to build your house? Because I built mine. I built
a Persian palace, and I don't know. I paid three
hundred dollars a foot square foot to build it. And
he told me it's one thousand dollars a square foot
today easily for a custom home. And all those homes
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and Palisades were customed thousand dollars. So a five thousand
square foot home, which is not unusual for the Palisades,
is a five million dollar rebuild.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Hard costs.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
That's the cost of a lumber, that's the cost of
the appliances, the guy who hammer the lumber together. It's
five million bucks for five thousand square foot home.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Let me tell you something.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Insurance policies don't cover that if you're on the Fair Plan.
People that were uninsured and could only get the Fair
Plan fire insurance which were covered the max.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
There are three million dollars.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
And as I do commercials for Reuben adjusting, it's all
about the insurance companies.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
If you have a.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Five million dollar rebuild, they won't give you five million dollars,
or they won't give you two million dollars. You'll see, Okay,
we'll give you one point five, we'll give you one
point seven. You know, we'll replace your cabinets that were
custom made with basically IKEA level cabinets, because look at
the policy, it only says replacement of cabinets.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
So it is a mess that's going on out there.
Where to cover it?
Speaker 2 (19:31):
And of course it's this has been it's it's not
going to be news any longer. Certainly it's disappeared from
the national news. You know the agenda, so you know,
no one cares out there for us, Uh, it's it's
a little closer. And of course for those people that
are caught up in it, this is a nightmare that
is going to go on for a very long time.
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And if people bought a home and they're going to
rebuild it, let me tell you in the ride you're four,
because I have built a home.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
It's not easy stuff at all.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
All right, A quick ask of you we do a
segment every Friday at eight thirty. It's ask Handle Anything.
And I need you to help me out on this.
I can't do it without you. And it's based on
the fact that all of us behind the mic, and
for some reason people want to know intimate not intimate secrets,
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but what do people like when they're not behind the mic?
And I get this constantly, so and said, why don't
we just do and ask Handle Anything segment?
Speaker 3 (20:30):
All right, So we're going for it. We tried it
for a few weeks.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
You get to ask me anything personal doesn't matter, and
I basically answer the question because I'm a pretty open guy.
And so here's what you do is you go to
the iHeart app. It is free, click on to KFI
during the show, and you will see a microphone in
the right hand corner and just press the mic, click
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onto the mic and then just record fifteen seconds and
ask me whatever question.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
And for the most part, since.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
I him reasonably honest, I mean at first I was
completely honest. I was embarrassed the hell out of me.
So it's just fun. And it's based on the fact
that I get this too. What's Neil like in real life?
You know, what are Gary and Shannon like when they're
off the air. That's just an interest people have. And
I've always had that, I mean ever since I started
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listening to talk radio.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
What's the guy like?
Speaker 1 (21:23):
You know?
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Is he really that way?
Speaker 2 (21:25):
You know? And there were people, you know, for example,
Rush Limbaugh, you know who I met a few times.
His Rush really is bombastic. He was the shyest guy
in the world.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Yeah, he's pretty quiet. He was very quiet, very shy.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
I mean, his politics were his politics, I mean, there's
no question about it. But on the air where he
was bombastic and one.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Of the hardest working talk show hosts I've ever seen.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Hours and hours he would be studying us for show. Yeah,
I know.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
And and he it was worth his tens of millions
of dollars a year that he was getting.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
But that's just jealousy.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
What was it his last contract was like one hundred
million or something, well.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
I think it annually.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
It was in the mid thirties. And that also I
think included the jet. It's good to be Rush limbab.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
But he was so cool, well not so much right now. No, no,
basically being dead so that's not helpful. But he so
we do that every Friday at eight thirty, and here's
what happens.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
And I'll do the show with the DNA testing tomorrow
because we're out of time, of course. And what happens
is you record those questions and Neil and Ann picked
the questions because some of them are the same and
they're repetitive, and they picked the questions and you and
I get to hear them for the first time. I
hear him the same time you and then I answer
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the question and it's just great fun. If you care
at all, I mean, if you're listening and you give
a rats, okay, and if you're not in this, if
you're not listening and you don't listen, well then it's
not going to help you at all.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
That makes sense, No, it does. Amy.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
How often you get what's Neil like or what's Handle
like in real life?
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Never? I know, nobody cares.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
No, I get it.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
I do get it sometimes, Yeah, And I get it
about Neil since Neil and I have really been friends
with Neil for thirty years.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
As you know, did you really sleep with him naked?
Did you?
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Uh? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (23:25):
And the answer is yeah, for the most part.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
I would not belittle you like that. And embarrass you
in such a way.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
And by the way, I know you use the word
belittle in several forms.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
There, I get that.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Be tiny you. I would not be tiny you, poor
little little man.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
No, Neil and I have had some adventures, of which
some can be repeated, not all, but some.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
It'll be in the book. Yeah you gotta get Yeah,
you gotta you have to have some Our trips to Tijuana.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Oh god, remember that one, Oh god, I was We
were in a just just a quick side story here.
We were in one of our producers at that time.
His parents lived in Tijuana, so we went down to
spend the day because we were doing some kind of
broadcast there. And we were in his pickup truck and
going down Avenita Revolution, the big street in Tijuana, and
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I'm leaning out the window screaming.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
To every woman, I saw what and that is?
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Uh, let's just you know, slot hooker. You know, it's
all all those I thought they were such Oh yeah,
but they some of them were, but not the.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Ones that were was in the truck. It was your
old lexus. Yeah, it was your lexus. Oh I don't
remember that part. Okay, it was your.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
Old lexus because I remember I almost just got out
and joined.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Oh we came very close to we came very close
to dying. All right, guys, we are done. Oh yeah,
I'm taking phone calls eight hundred five to eight hundred.
What's the number again, eight seven seven I just for
I've been doing this for twenty years, and I forget
the number. Yeah, eight seven seven five two zero eleven fifty.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
That's it. Eight seven seven five two zero eleven fifty.
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Handle on the law, off the air, and I'm going
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And as always when I take calls Tuesdays and Thursdays,
no interruptions, no news, no traffic, and no patience. So
I go through them pretty quickly. Eight seven seven five
two zero eleven fifty. Starting in just a moment, coming
(25:46):
up Gary and Shannon, and they're going to be talking
about Rick Caruso's new program here in LA to get
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so that's coming right up. Eight seven seven five twos
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KFI AM six forty Bill Handle here. It is a
Tuesday morning, February the fourth. Then, since it is Tuesday,
and since it is eight o'clock, it is time for
a tech segment with Rich Tomorrow, kfi's tech reporter, host
of Rich on Tech here on Saturdays KFI and that's
(00:27):
eleven am to two pm. And you can follow him
rich on well Instagram, at rich on Tech website, rich
on tech Dot TV.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Morning Rich, Hey, Good morning to Bill Hockey Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Good good to you.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Yes, real quickly before we get into the topics, big congratulations,
big kudos. Your show, syndicated show just got into New York.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
And for those of us.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
That are sort of familiar with all this, getting into
New York is almost a miracle.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
I mean that that's no small deal.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I'm not kidding. I wrote this on my Instagram. The
first question I asked when I heard I was getting
a show was will it be on in New York City?
And the answer was no. And that was that was
two years ago, and I've been asking, I've literally been
begging ever since, and finally they said, okay, I think
we think you're ready. And so this weekend, the same
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show that you hear in LA will be on in
New York City.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Now, I've been doing a handle on the Law since
nineteen eighty five. It's on two hundred and sixty stations
give or take, you know what.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
You know what city. It's not in New York. Yeah, yeah,
well I'm.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Telling you you know New York here too, Bill Miracle,
I've been producing the Jesus Show that has been on
for over two decades and it's national.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
I don't think we're on in New York. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
It's it's not easy to do it really is. It's
it's it's a big, big deal. So congratulations and.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Very well done.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yeah, thank you. This is this was a big part
of it, Bill, doing this with you. You know, I
learn from the best, and you know this is this
helped this. You know, people want good tech information and
you know, hopefully we can give it to all.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah, you don't have to suck it up. Okay, that's fine.
Uh what was it?
Speaker 3 (02:18):
It's Premier Radio, right, are they syndicating you?
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Yeah, the radio the same.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Syndication company that I work with, and uh, you know,
as powerful as they are, and they're the biggest syndication
company in the world. Getting into New York is almost impossible,
So good for you. All right, let's move right into
who just went was that you?
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Okay, no, all right, I don't know who that was.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Let's talk about iPhones unlocking locked cabinets at stores like CBS.
Going to CVS and trying to get a bottle of
shampoo that's in a locked case and you have to
call the clerk over done lock it is. It's like
beyond horrible. And there's now technology this sort of bypasses that.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yeah, this is pretty common in the LA area I know,
and mohere I live, they have locked up everything, uh
slowly but surely. And so yes, like you said, you
got to go into these aisles. It makes you almost
not want to shop there because you got to call
someone and wait for someone to come over and unlock
the case. And in the case of a Walmart that
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I went to, not only do they unlock the case
and give you the product, but then they lock it
up in a secondary case. So you bring it to
the kech here in a lock.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Box, I know, you get a yeah, a razor blade
and it comes into a box that you can shoe
box size box.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Yes, crazy, Yeah, So what does this do?
Speaker 2 (03:47):
So?
Speaker 3 (03:48):
What does this does? How does it undo that?
Speaker 1 (03:51):
So CBS is trying to use technology to help shoppers.
So the idea is that you have the CVS app
installed on your phone. You're logged in, and when you
go to one of these shelves, you can use the
app on your phone to unlock the box and so
that you can you know, pull out your deodorant or
whatever you need, the shampoo bottle and then it locks
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back up and so you don't have to call someone over.
You can do it from your phone. And the idea
is to make this easier, but also they know who
you are. It's not going to be for everyone. You're
logged into the app. It gets people to download the app,
It eases some of the frustration. Right now, they're testing
this at just a handful of stores, but they're expecting
or hoping to expand it to more stores before rolling
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it out to every store. If it works, I mean,
the idea is that you know, hopefully this still cuts
down on thefts, but it makes it easier for people
to shop there.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah, But the whole point of course is security, which
you've just undone some security. And so what you're saying
is that the safeguards that they know who you are,
they know what time it's being done, they can timestamp
at all of that is enough to charity whether you
can unlock those ridiculous cabinets.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Is that the philosophy.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Yeah, I mean it sounds like a good idea because
you know, if it works for the consumer. I mean,
to me, like, I've stopped going as a stores that
I know, or I've stopped buying things that those stores
that I know are locked up. So if I knew that, oh,
I can walk into the CBS. I've got the app
on my phone. Yeah, it's a little headache to log
in and sign up and all that stuff. But at
the same time, if I can do that, I know
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I can go into that store, it might actually be
a better process because I know I can walk straight
to that aisle, grab what I need, unlock the case,
grab what I need, and get out of there without
waiting for someone. So it might actually be a good
thing for sales. But balancing the idea that people just
apparently steal everything they can get their hands on at
these stores.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Yeah, and waiting for someone in this day and age,
when they keep a skeleton staff no matter what, and
you're waiting for a clerk who the last thing the
clerk wants to do is come over there and open
the case and then relock it. Or you're looking at it.
I don't think so put it.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Back in, right.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
You feel guilty now once they bring it over, like
once they open the case. You know, if you're buying
like shampoo or deodorant, whatever it is. You know, people
like to linger, they like to look at the labels,
they like to smell it. But you can't do any
of that when the person comes over. It's like this
pressure of like, okay, let me just choose. Well, just
take that one and you run out of there, you know, all.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Right, Rich were don't talk about the super Bowl? And
uh yeah, I don't want to. Okay, it's here's what's
gonna happen. We when I watch the Super Bowl and
the Chiefs are probably gonna win, and or they're not
going to win.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Okay, we're done now.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
The reason I am switching gears is during the break,
Neil was talking about a segment that you were talking
about on your show this past weekend about this new trailer,
an electric trailer, and he got so excited about well,
he's been so excited about he wanted to talk about it,
and I go, okay, so what's tell me about it?
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Because this is new stuff, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yeah, it's really really cool. So this got a lot
of publicity. A couple of years ago they came out
with the video that showed off some of the But
now I actually went up to Fremont, California, up near
San Francisco to actually try this thing out. So it's
called the Pebble Flow and it's a it's a high
tech RV, so it's it's been reinvented from the ground up.
It's all electric. A lot of guys from Tesla and
(07:16):
SpaceX and Rivian and NASA, those are the people that
are building this thing. And basically the guy who started
it told me like, hey, you know, I really during
the pandemic, I really wanted to start rving, but it
was a pain to back this thing up, all the
considerations you had to have, and he said, so there
has to be a better way to get r ving
to a new generation of people like myself that are
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smartphone centric and so I think the neatest feature, besides
all the you know, the fact that this thing looks
really nice, the neatest feature Bill is that you take
an iPad. This thing is in your driveway or on
the street, and you use the iPad to drive it around,
like to a parking spot. So it's not like driving
per se. But it's moving, so you can spin it around.
Three hundred and sixty two.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Well it moves on it and I'm looking at it is,
but does it moves on its own?
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Yes, it moves on its own. It's wild. You you
literally control it with an iPad app. And so when
I first they said here, take the controller. They didn't
tell me how to do it. They just said try it.
And so I'd start putting my hands on the iPad.
And when you start seeing this thing move, this giant
you know, six thousand pounds RV, your brain thinks, oh,
this thing's just gonna roll down the street, right because
(08:24):
you've never seen it unhitched moving. And sure enough you stop,
you take your hand off the iPad, it stops moving.
You rotate it around, it stops moving. I mean, it's
such a cool feature that that alone is enough to
make a lot of people. You know, Okay, I can
move over this thing into my parking lot now or
my campsite, but it keeps going. So you've got this
magic hitch feature, which means you put the thing near
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your car, the hitch on the back of your car,
and it will find the hitch and hitch itself, just
like you know the guy who worked on the Space station.
That's who worked on this seriously. And then it's got
this other feature where it automatically levels itself out and
it gets to your campsites. You don't have to figure
out how to make it level. You just tap a
button and it will figure out the ground, where to
(09:06):
put the things up and down whatever you need to do.
Really cool and by the way, all electrics, so you
can use it as a ADU if you want in
your driveway, I mean obviously check your local regional laws
or whatever. You could use it as a mobile office.
You can use it to charge your EV because it's
got a big battery and solar on the top. Price
tag over one hundred thousand dollars for this pebble flow.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
It's beautiful and I'm looking at a video of it,
and now do you need a super car to.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Tow it, or can you do it with an SUV
for example, Yeah, you should be able to.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
And that's the other feature that it has built into
It actually has its own electric motor in it, so
we try driving it with the motor on and off.
So when you have the motor on, it actually helps
propel your car forward. So it's using the idea that
a lot of people might be using EV's, Like the
kind of people that might buy this might also have
an EV, so you know, if you're trailing something behind
(10:07):
your EV, you're gonna use a ton of energy. So
this actually will propel itself to save the energy from
your car. They say, I think they said you get
about double the mileage that you would typically get if
you weren't if you weren't propelling.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
And are they selling? You know, what sizes do they
come in? That's the first question.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
So it's one size right now, and it's you know,
they put a lot of thoughtful features into it. It's
got a nice big kitchen. It's got a sleeping area,
another sleeping area kind of a pull out bed like
a murphy bed that turns into an office area. You've
got you know, like I said, a ton of storage.
Oh the other thing that's cool are the glass. The
glass on this thing has an electrostatic feature so that
(10:48):
you tap a button on it and the glass goes frosted,
and then you tap the button again and the glass
goes clear. So in the bathroom it's got that and
also on the other windows. So one size right now.
They're hoping, you know, in the future to make different sizes.
But this thing is a startup, you know, they got
to get off the ground. They've got to get people
interested in actually purchasing this thing and proving that they can,
(11:10):
you know, make this thing better over times.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Absolutely gorgeous. Yeah, I can see why Neel that all
excited about that.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Would I buy one a you know, i'd rent one first,
but they're probably not for rent. All right, really quickly,
let's talk about the Super Bowl coming up and how
you can watch it in four K this year for free.
First question is why, I mean, is there a big difference?
And two how do you watch it for free? Because
(11:36):
I assume it's going to cost you money otherwise.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Yeah, yeah, I mean you could watch it, you know,
obviously over the air, but this is the first time
they're going to be streaming it in four K for free,
you got to get the two B app t U
b I. This is Fox's free, free ad supported streaming service.
But the trick is, even if you have the app,
you still have to have two things to watch this
in four K. You have to have a four K
enable TV, which duh, I mean if you're going to
(12:01):
be watching it four K, But you also have to
have a four K enabled streaming device. That's a Roku
that's a Fire TV stick or a Fire TV device,
an Apple TV or an Android TV that runs Google.
All of those have to be four K, plus your
TV has to be four K. Those two things for
this to line up and give you four K for
free on the Super Bowl. The other thing bill is
(12:23):
to be Typically you can download the app and just
start watching for the Super Bowl game. They of course
got smart and said no, we want to collect a
lot of email addresses, so you do have to sign
in with your email address. It's still free, but my
advice is to do this now. Don't wait until people
come over to your house to set this up. Download
it now, sign up now. Make sure you're ready to
go for the big game on.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Sunday, Okay, are you going to be watching?
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Of course I'm rooting for the Chiefs because of you know,
Taylor Swift and my wife.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Wow, you know what, I wouldn't admit that, Cono cut
that out? Would you? For the when we do?
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Are you going to use the dumb but we.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Already we already have rich don't you don't any of that?
All right, we'll catch you this weekend. Congratulations on New York,
by the way, and we'll see a next We'll see
an next Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
All right.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
For those of you that are unfortunately have been affected
by the fires and their thousands and those who know
people affected, which is tens of thousands, what's going on
right now is people looking at their homes and they
have to remove what was once there burn toxic, explosive
in some cases, remnants of houses, possessions, and so the
(13:36):
issue of how long it may take to rebuild right
now is not even on the table.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
It's how long will it be to remove the debris
that's the problem.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
So you have an estimated sixty one hundred homes burning
out Tadena, fifty five in Palisades, and everyone wants the
debris remove.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
From their property.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Like now, there are a couple of things about this
that I want to share with you that I was
talking to a contractor. And by the way, no one
wants to take the debris. I mean, it's a real
nimby issue. So residents in the San Gabriel Valley near
Lario Park, that's where the Eaton fire is going to
have its garbage spread, they're thrilled with that one, the debris.
(14:17):
And then the Topanga the Palisades fire going to go
to a location near Topanga Canyon and Pacific Coast Highway
owned by the county. All right, So the US Army
Corps engineer, the colonel who's in charge, who's overseeing the
phase two debris removal process, said that that stage stage
two will take less than a year. And it used
(14:40):
to say, or the word was it was taken to say,
three months to make a dent. Karen Vass said, no,
it's closer to one month, and there are a lot
of issues going on. Number one, the logistical challenge. First
phase can only be done by the EPA as long
as it's still around, and that's hazardous materials, paints, cleaners,
(15:02):
car batteries.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Some properties can take longer than others.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Obviously, if you have a home solar system with batteries,
that's going to be a different story. And the timeline
for the EPA to accomplish removal has gone down from
three months to one month. And this is a lot
of pressure from the Trump administration and local officials. The
Trump administration has come down hard and saying you have
(15:28):
to clean this up as quickly as possible.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Some properties will be cleared earlier than others, clearly.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
I mean, if you only have so many excavators, so
many dump truck someone's got to go first and last.
The second phase involves structural debris foundations, recyclables, trees, and
up to six inches of soil that's on the property.
(15:57):
That can take two to ten days per property. And
here's what homeowners get to do. They get a choice.
You can either do it yourself and assuming your insurance
covers it, have your insurance pay for it. Or you
can have it done for free. And that's using the
Army Corps of Engineers. Who is going to in this
(16:19):
organization will clear the debris on your property.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
So who is going to pay?
Speaker 2 (16:26):
I mean, if it's free from the Army Corps of Engineers,
they know what they're doing. Why would you ever do.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
It for free? Aha?
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Here is the catch here, and that is if the
Army Corps of Engineer comes in and cleans out goes
the foundation. And if you are building from scratch, starting
with a lot, now you're subject to all of the codes,
the new rules. For example, the setback. It used to
(16:54):
be that the setback was five feet from the street. Well,
under the new rule that've been passed a few years ago,
the setback is now eight feet. And if you tear
out the foundations and have to build again on what
is a lot, you now have to add another three
feet worth the setback. And then we're talking about codes
all over the place, the earthquake codes, I mean all
(17:18):
of it. And so a lot of people are saying,
wait a minute. If you keep the foundation and it's
easy to find out if they're cracked or not, the
foundations in decent shape, that's an easy call. Then you
use the existing footprint and you use a lot of
the existing code. That's why you see when someone is
(17:39):
remodeling their home and literally taking it down to the foundation,
there's always one wallup.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
They always keep one wallup because.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
That makes it a remodel, not a new build, and
there's a huge difference, and how many homes are actually
going to be rebuilt. That becomes problematic because I was
just told I was stunned this.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
A couple days ago.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
I was having a conversation with someone who really knows
this stuff, and I said, how much does it cost
to build your house? Because I built mine. I built
a Persian palace, and I don't know. I paid three
hundred dollars a foot square foot to build it. And
he told me it's one thousand dollars a square foot
today easily for a custom home. And all those homes
(18:24):
and Palisades were customed thousand dollars. So a five thousand
square foot home, which is not unusual for the Palisades,
is a five million dollar rebuild.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Hard costs.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
That's the cost of a lumber, that's the cost of
the appliances, the guy who hammer the lumber together. It's
five million bucks for five thousand square foot home.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Let me tell you something.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Insurance policies don't cover that if you're on the Fair Plan.
People that were uninsured and could only get the Fair
Plan fire insurance which were covered the max.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
There are three million dollars.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
And as I do commercials for Reuben adjusting, it's all
about the insurance companies.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
If you have a.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Five million dollar rebuild, they won't give you five million dollars,
or they won't give you two million dollars. You'll see, Okay,
we'll give you one point five, we'll give you one
point seven. You know, we'll replace your cabinets that were
custom made with basically IKEA level cabinets, because look at
the policy, it only says replacement of cabinets.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
So it is a mess that's going on out there.
Where to cover it?
Speaker 2 (19:31):
And of course it's this has been it's it's not
going to be news any longer. Certainly it's disappeared from
the national news. You know the agenda, so you know,
no one cares out there for us, Uh, it's it's
a little closer. And of course for those people that
are caught up in it, this is a nightmare that
is going to go on for a very long time.
(19:53):
And if people bought a home and they're going to
rebuild it, let me tell you in the ride you're four,
because I have built a home.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
It's not easy stuff at all.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
All right, A quick ask of you we do a
segment every Friday at eight thirty. It's ask Handle Anything.
And I need you to help me out on this.
I can't do it without you. And it's based on
the fact that all of us behind the mic, and
for some reason people want to know intimate not intimate secrets,
(20:23):
but what do people like when they're not behind the mic?
And I get this constantly, so and said, why don't
we just do and ask Handle Anything segment?
Speaker 3 (20:30):
All right, So we're going for it. We tried it
for a few weeks.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
You get to ask me anything personal doesn't matter, and
I basically answer the question because I'm a pretty open guy.
And so here's what you do is you go to
the iHeart app. It is free, click on to KFI
during the show, and you will see a microphone in
the right hand corner and just press the mic, click
(20:55):
onto the mic and then just record fifteen seconds and
ask me whatever question.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
And for the most part, since.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
I him reasonably honest, I mean at first I was
completely honest. I was embarrassed the hell out of me.
So it's just fun. And it's based on the fact
that I get this too. What's Neil like in real life?
You know, what are Gary and Shannon like when they're
off the air. That's just an interest people have. And
I've always had that, I mean ever since I started
(21:20):
listening to talk radio.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
What's the guy like?
Speaker 1 (21:23):
You know?
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Is he really that way?
Speaker 2 (21:25):
You know? And there were people, you know, for example,
Rush Limbaugh, you know who I met a few times.
His Rush really is bombastic. He was the shyest guy
in the world.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Yeah, he's pretty quiet. He was very quiet, very shy.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
I mean, his politics were his politics, I mean, there's
no question about it. But on the air where he
was bombastic and one.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Of the hardest working talk show hosts I've ever seen.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Hours and hours he would be studying us for show. Yeah,
I know.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
And and he it was worth his tens of millions
of dollars a year that he was getting.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
But that's just jealousy.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
What was it his last contract was like one hundred
million or something, well.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
I think it annually.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
It was in the mid thirties. And that also I
think included the jet. It's good to be Rush limbab.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
But he was so cool, well not so much right now. No, no,
basically being dead so that's not helpful. But he so
we do that every Friday at eight thirty, and here's
what happens.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
And I'll do the show with the DNA testing tomorrow
because we're out of time, of course. And what happens
is you record those questions and Neil and Ann picked
the questions because some of them are the same and
they're repetitive, and they picked the questions and you and
I get to hear them for the first time. I
hear him the same time you and then I answer
(22:52):
the question and it's just great fun. If you care
at all, I mean, if you're listening and you give
a rats, okay, and if you're not in this, if
you're not listening and you don't listen, well then it's
not going to help you at all.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
That makes sense, No, it does. Amy.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
How often you get what's Neil like or what's Handle
like in real life?
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Never? I know, nobody cares.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
No, I get it.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
I do get it sometimes, Yeah, And I get it
about Neil since Neil and I have really been friends
with Neil for thirty years.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
As you know, did you really sleep with him naked?
Did you?
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Uh? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (23:25):
And the answer is yeah, for the most part.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
I would not belittle you like that. And embarrass you
in such a way.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
And by the way, I know you use the word
belittle in several forms.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
There, I get that.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Be tiny you. I would not be tiny you, poor
little little man.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
No, Neil and I have had some adventures, of which
some can be repeated, not all, but some.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
It'll be in the book. Yeah you gotta get Yeah,
you gotta you have to have some Our trips to Tijuana.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Oh god, remember that one, Oh god, I was We
were in a just just a quick side story here.
We were in one of our producers at that time.
His parents lived in Tijuana, so we went down to
spend the day because we were doing some kind of
broadcast there. And we were in his pickup truck and
going down Avenita Revolution, the big street in Tijuana, and
(24:26):
I'm leaning out the window screaming.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
To every woman, I saw what and that is?
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Uh, let's just you know, slot hooker. You know, it's
all all those I thought they were such Oh yeah,
but they some of them were, but not the.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Ones that were was in the truck. It was your
old lexus. Yeah, it was your lexus. Oh I don't
remember that part. Okay, it was your.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
Old lexus because I remember I almost just got out
and joined.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Oh we came very close to we came very close
to dying. All right, guys, we are done. Oh yeah,
I'm taking phone calls eight hundred five to eight hundred.
What's the number again, eight seven seven I just for
I've been doing this for twenty years, and I forget
the number. Yeah, eight seven seven five two zero eleven fifty.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
That's it. Eight seven seven five two zero eleven fifty.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Handle on the law, off the air, and I'm going
to be answering any of your phone calls Marginal Legal Advice.
And as always when I take calls Tuesdays and Thursdays,
no interruptions, no news, no traffic, and no patience. So
I go through them pretty quickly. Eight seven seven five
two zero eleven fifty. Starting in just a moment, coming
(25:46):
up Gary and Shannon, and they're going to be talking
about Rick Caruso's new program here in LA to get
things moving for the fires and a whole lot more
so that's coming right up. Eight seven seven five twos
zero eleven fifty off the air, starting in just a
moment for marginal Legal Advice. This is KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
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Speaker 2 (26:09):
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