December 9, 2025 • 23 mins
(December 09,2025)
KTLA & KFI tech reporter Rich DeMuro joins the show for ‘Tech Tuesday.’ Today, Rich talks about Australia’s social media ban for kids, Meta acquiring Limitless, and Rich’s massive list of shopping tips and tricks. Survey shows how much teenagers dislike the news media.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
KFI AM six forty Bill Handle Here it is.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
A Taco Tuesday, December ninth, And as we do every Tuesday,
right around this time, we go to Rich Dumurow, kfi's
tech guy, heard every Saturday right here on KFI eleven
am to two pm. He's on KTLA TV everyday, Instagram
at rich on tech website, rich on tech dot TV.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Good morning, Rich, Good morning to you.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Bill.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Okay, here we go.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
We start with a really interesting story about Australia. Now
we've been talking and I was just the entire world's
been talking, particularly us. Here we hear about a social
media band, I mean, an outright media band for kids.
Australia has just picked that one up and it's actually there.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
You want to talk about that, please.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
This is the big.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Fear of the US tech companies what they're doing in
Australia because in the US, you know, we don't really
have a lot of regulations around this stuff.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
And so all the tech companies, like the Tiktoks of.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
The world, the metas, the Instagrams, they the snaps, they
have all tried to make their own parental rules, right,
And I'm putting up air quotes because they're trying. But
the reason they're trying is because they don't want the
US government to do anything about this. They want to
be in charge. Well, in Australia they said, you know what,
enough is enough, And on Wednesday there is no more
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social media for children under sixteen.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
That's it.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
So more than a million accounts are going to be
shut down on Wednesday. These platforms including TikTok, Instagram, YouTube,
Facebook x, Snapchat, Reddit, they all have to take reasonable
steps to make sure that kids under sixteen cannot open
up new accounts and they have to close down the
old accounts or else they face fines.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Now the word you said is reasonable attempts. Let's get
into that.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
I love it the lawyer coming out.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Right, because all I can think of, Okay, I'm a
fourteen year old and I'm gonna lie.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Are you sixteen?
Speaker 5 (02:08):
Well yeah i am, but I'm not right and they're
already doing that, by the way. So basically, here's what's
happened in America over the past you know, ten years
or so. Everyone's been raw, raw, raw about all the technology. Right,
sign everyone up, Get everyone signed up. So every parent
sign up, their kids, let their kids sign up, and
you get to that little speed.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Bump that says how old are you?
Speaker 5 (02:28):
Parent goes, I'll just put whatever age, twenty one, whatever,
didn't matter, right. Well, now what's happening is all these
companies are starting to use AI to figure out the
child's actual age. So even if your kid put in
twenty one because there was more convenient for the parents
and not have to deal with all that stuff. Now
the platforms are coming back and saying, we've scanned the
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way that this account is used and we've used AI
to do that, and we've realized that this child is
closer to thirteen than twenty one, like the account was
originally established that so now we're going to retro change
that and you have to fight.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
To change it back. All right. This is happening on
Google too.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
People are getting notifications on Google saying, hey, your account
looks like you're under eighteen or twenty one or whatever.
You have to verify you are who you say you are.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Yeah, sorry interrupt, But the first thing that came to
mind using AI to figure out someone's age, how does
that work? You know? What is is it an algorithm
that has to be developed putting everything together. Birthday parties,
they go to texts that they send each other. What
is the tool that's used or how does the tool work?
Speaker 5 (03:39):
Yeah, I mean, look, they're all slightly different. Like Roadblocks
is taking a visual scan of kids' faces and so
you know, starting in January here in the US, kids
will have to scan their face and they will be
put into a bucket of ages based on their face.
And then other platforms are using different signals like you mentioned,
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you know, who you text, who you follow, what you say,
what you post, what you look at. These are all
signals that are fed into AI, and the algorithm has
been trained on what people in their twenties do, what
people in there, you know, thirteen to sixteen do, what
people in their you know, fifties do, and so that
way they can put you into a bucket of people
that makes sense for what you're doing on there. It's
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not always going to be perfect, but especially with kids,
you know, they're not looking at fine vacations, you know.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
In the Baltic Sea or whatever, you know what I mean, They're.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
They're looking at certain things, certain influencers, and they know
that they're that age.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
So you know, I'm just thinking because I always look
older than my age.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I'm just the oldest looking person.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
And I'm thinking, Okay, you know, let me throw something
at you Armenian teenagers where the girls are growing mustaches
quicker than you know the rest of the population. That,
by the way, is going to get me about fifteen emails.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Why do you do that to rich He doesn't want
to stand next to that.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah, well I have to throw it. I have to
throw it at him because he doesn't get this stuff
on his on his other shows that he does.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Oh, I certainly do not.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Yeah, Ktla doesn't.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
I'm gonna look, I'm gonna, I'm just gonna.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
I looked at your history on Instagram. So the things
that you're looking at those words hard candies, newspapers, magnifying
glass advertisements. Oh, those giant remote controls with like three
buttons on them, the volume up, down, power. So look,
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they can tell that you are of a certain age
just by looking at your history.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Let's put it that way.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Wow, Okay, I'm sorry, I'm not stunned, but I'm thinking
how far it can go?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
And there's really no limit.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
One of the things I just real quickly before we
take a break and we go into the shopping tips
and what you can do to really get great prices
on so many things. Is I was thinking, Sam Altman,
when you were talking about how these companies do not
want these these major companies, Sam Altman chat GPT he
(06:07):
They showed an interview with him a few months ago
where he argued that, yes, we do need and over
the course of years, we do need some controls from
the government. We do need some guardrails. And then something
he said a few days ago, no guardrails. Nope, we
have to do it on our own. So things are
changing pretty quickly.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
Yeah, it's in their best interest to not have the guardrails.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
It's in our.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Best interest to have at least some guardrails. But that's
still to be determined because everyone has a different opinion
on how those should work, and it's getting tougher and
tougher for people to agree on what we all agree on.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
If you've noticed, yep, and now it is a holiday
season upon us and we are buying still very strong.
I mean, sales, particularly Internet sales are through the roof.
So Rich, let's go through some of the tips you have.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
Yeah, so I guess my first tip is really for Amazon,
because this is where people do a lot of their shopping.
So Amazon added a new feature this year that you
may not even notice, but it's called price history. So
look for a little link near the price tag that
shows you the price history. So if you're wondering if
you should buy something, you can tap that and you'll
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get thirty to ninety days worth of pricing data, so
you can say, Okay, this is actually on sale at
a pretty reasonable number compared to the past.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
If you want to get this information longer or more
of it.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
I guess I should say, there's a website called Camel
Camel Camel. I believe we've spoken about this before, but
you basically paste in one of these Amazon product URLs,
it'll give you a whole bunch of data on pricing.
And if you just want this information always on your
Amazon product pages, you can install an extension called kip A,
k EEPA and bill. Once you install that, there's so
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much information that they put on your Amazon product listings.
You may uninstall it because you're like, Okay, this is
just too much new information for me. For instance, I'm
looking at this Amazon kindle fire seven and I can
tell you, you know, all this information that can give
you product data variations, all these things on the page.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
While you're looking at your Amazon listings.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
So what would you go?
Speaker 3 (08:16):
All right, well, real quickly, why would you go to
Amazon as opposed to one of the apps that shows
the price across the board, not just Amazon but all
of the other retailers.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
Well, here's the thing about Amazon, bill. They have these
crawlers that go out on the web, and as soon
as the price gets marked down somewhere let's say it's
at Target, Macy's, best Buy, whatever, Amazon pretty much matches.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
That price almost instantly.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
So the thing about Amazon shoppers is that they pretty
much are loyal to Amazon. They start, you know, there's
different places where people start their searches for things for shopping.
A lot of people don't even go to Google. They
just go straight to Amazon. And I don't know if
you're like that, but I sure am. And when I
do try to comparison shop, you find that, Okay, well
(09:05):
it's the same price at best Buy. It's a lot
easier for Amazon just to deliver this thing to my
front door, yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
No kidding, And then return policy go to ups because
Lindsay buys a lot of stuff and we get box
after box and I'm the one that drops it off.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
They don't even argue, just here we go.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
They do this zip with the scanner and you are done,
and you're in and out in thirty seconds.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
Yeah, so we that we did that two days ago
and we had a whole bunch of stuff.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
And now I will.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
Tell you, your return is not completely done until Amazon
reviews it. So it seems like they give you the
money instantly, and sometimes they do. But sometimes, and we
have had this happen where they do that whole system
and you still don't get your refund because after they
go through all their checks and balances, they say, wait,
you return the wrong thing, you scan the wrong thing, whatever.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Sometimes it's right, sometimes it's not all right.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
Two sites that I love for deals Slick Deals. If
you're looking for deals. This is crowdsourced, which means people
on the inner net post great deals, other people vote
up the best ones. Deal News another one, but they
use editors. Simply Codes this website. If you're looking for
a promo code before you check out, simplycodes dot com
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is one of the best ways to do that. I
know we'll run out of time, so let me give
you one good one here. If you're shopping for groceries
over the holiday season, maybe making those dinners, there's a
great new feature at a website called get savewise dot
com slash grocery Get savewise dot com slash grocery bill.
If you install this extension on your browser, the next
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time you go to Ralphs dot com, Vonds dot com,
it will activate all those digital coupons and load them
onto your card so you don't have to do all
that work.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
That sounds absolutely great. What are TVs a bargain? Computers?
Speaker 3 (10:51):
What are we looking at in terms of the great
bargains this holiday season?
Speaker 5 (10:56):
I think all of it. I mean, I know we've
heard that tariff's term being thrown around a lot the news,
but I'll be honest. I mean, the prices we're seeing
this year are pretty competitive. You know, fifty five inch
TVs now, I mean now people are up to sixty
five to seventy five inch TVs eighty five quickly coming up.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
So TVs are a good deal.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
Laptops, I mean, I'm seeing a lot of deals on laptops,
and in fact, slick deals which I mentioned people are
asking like which laptop to get which laptop? All the
prices I'm seeing are fantastically discounted, and you can find
a list of the best deals going at slick Deals.
You can get even Apple's latest MacBook Air for like
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seven hundred and fifty dollars right now. So I mean
we're really seeing a lot of discounts on these things.
Working up a list as well on my website. I've
got like the top ten gadgets people are buying this year,
and almost all of them are discounted.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Okay, that's the website is Rich on tech dot TV. Rich.
Thank you. We'll catch you on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Thanks Bill Saturday. I'm sorry, I'll catch you on Saturday.
I think I was talking to Joel Saturday, eleven am
to two pm.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Rich.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
You have a good one, Okay, Happy happy holidays, even
though I'm going to talk to.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
You before the holidays officially, all right.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Some of the stories we're looking at, and this piece
of news is directly, uh directly affects the story that
I'm doing. One of the stories is President Trump is
on his way today to Pennsylvania to talk about the
quote affordability problem that seems to be the mantra is
the affordability problem. Last week the President called the prices
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and the affordability issue the greatest con job ever conceived
by the Democrats. Well we're a week later, not so
much anymore. So the news and who's going to believe what?
There was a survey that just came out and it
was done by the News Literacy Project, which is an
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independent think tank.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
And here's the problem.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
And we're talking about teenagers now, Okay, when they engage
with the news, If they engage with the news, what
they hear is a cacophony of voices, I mean from
all over the place, and they don't know who to believe.
Reporters are biased, reporters make mistakes. It's a dying industry.
You can't believe anything you hear.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
This fall.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
This was a study and documented the negative attitudes and
that's where it went towards the news media among thirteen
to eighteen year old Americans. And the press doesn't do
very well at all. Now, it doesn't do well with adults. Man,
it doesn't do even well or not so well or worse.
(13:43):
I was well said among teenagers. Opinions are still forming,
so The Literacy Project asked the teenagers describe one word,
describe what the media means to you.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
How would you describe the media?
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Eighty four percent said something negative, biased, crazy, boring, fake, bad, depressing, confusing, scary,
And more than half of these teenagers said that journalists
regularly engage in unethical behaviors like making up details or
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quotes and stories, or paying sources or taking visual images
out of contexts, doing favors for advertisers.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
They're being bought off, and you know.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
As they're studying this, what is going on, Well, they
reflect the attitude that they're exposed to, because teenagers are
particularly susceptible to outside sources and forces, and they're more
affected by, for example, shaming or affected by peers, and
(14:56):
they're certainly more affected by news negatively as they view it. Okay,
so what is what's one of the reasons, Well, the
premiere reason why all of this negative news happens to
be because of the president. The President is at the forefront,
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forefront of telling us that news is fake, that it
is completely biased. As a matter of fact, it was
relating to that double tap on that drug ship, right
that we saw the first tap, the first attack on
the latest attack on the first video on the latest
attack of the ship that were the boat that was
(15:41):
carrying the drugs. And huge controversy as to were the
two survivors that of the attack who actually survived the
first hit. Were they innocent, well not so much innocent.
Were they simply grabbing onto pieces of debris, or were
(16:02):
they trying to actually overturn the boat to get back
in to continue there, to continue their trip to sell.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Drugs or to deliver drugs. And there's two versions to
this one.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
The Democrats and the Republicans, both the leadership and the
House saw it. The Republicans said, we saw them trying
to get back in the boat. We saw them actively
getting back.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
In the boat.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
The Democrats saw two survivors that are simply just floating
and waving to the airplanes that were flying above, waving
to the attack the attack airplanes.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
And that's two very different views. So now who do
you believe?
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Okay, last week the President was asked, would you release
in a press conference in the White House, would you
release that video the second video, and the President said, yeah,
I'd have no problem with that. This week he's changed
his tune, which is not unusual for President Trump, and
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now he has thrown it to Pete Hegseth and the
it'll be the Secretary of War, Secretary of Defense will
make that decision. And the same ABC reporter who asked
the question said it again a week later and said,
mister president, will you released and he changed his mind,
he didn't go back to the first statement.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
And she said, but last week you.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Said you were okay of releasing these and now you're not.
And he looked at her and with disdain said, uh,
fake news, ABC News, fake right there. Okay, So with that,
why do teenagers not believe what's going on in the
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media Because people look up to the president. The president
is the president that states I mean, that is a
position that is sacracanct.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Are you seriously saying that young people respect Donald Trump?
Speaker 3 (18:09):
I'm saying that young people respect the presidency more than
they respect the media. And because the media isn't attacking
the presidency the way the president attacks the media. I mean,
they do plenty of attacking, don't misunderstand, but the media
doesn't come out right there and say he's there, that
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the president is a liar.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
You can't trust him, you can't believe him.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
The mainstream media does not say that, whether it's true
or not. The teenagers, the non mainstream media says that,
and certainly the President says that of the media, you
can't trust them, they are liars. Not well, eighty four
percent said something negative, words like bias, crazy, boring, fake, bad, depressing, confusing, scary,
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and why is that. Well, as they're looking at it,
the teenagers are, you know, they're fairly susceptible to what's
going going on where well, the internet, they pay attention
to the Internet.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
I don't pay attention to internet.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
News other than the New York Times and CNN and
a few that I that I get alerts from and
stories from the rest of the world. I don't get attention.
I don't pay attention to. But then I'm a baby boomer,
I'm not a teenager. So why would you watch national
news or read mainstream media when you are being told
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over and over again it is fake, none of it
is true. Everything elections are now rigged. It is It's terrible.
And it's not just President Trump. It's across the board
where you have the Republican parties say, and that's the
Republican Party saying when everything negative is said.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
It's biased, it's lies, it's fake.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Now one of the things that I am being accused of,
and I think rightly so as I lean more towards
Democrats these days, or lean more against Republicans, uh, And
that's because as Democrats are biased one biased, the Republicans
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are more biased, or they come off more biased. You
don't see too many Democrats when there is a positive
story say that's a lie, that's rigged, that's fake news.
You're looking at me very strangely. What leader is saying that?
Speaker 1 (20:40):
What our very own leader in California says that that
stuff all the time.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
He doesn't talk about the media being rigged. He does
not say the media is rigged. That he doesn't do
Now he's okay, So.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
That's like saying that you don't talk about your malaprops.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
Why would he say in his why would he have a.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Problem with mainstream media when mainstream media favors Democrats because.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
He is being attacked and mainstream media hold on and
mainstream media.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Reports that they report it.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
And that's the difference. I think it's a big deal.
And the whole thing is it's not only President Trump.
I'm not a Republican. But I'm honest, okay.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
But.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Mainstream media reports and mainstream media for the most part,
is pretty objective about it. I watch national news, New
York Times. Actually, the New York Times has become so
anti Trump. It really is surprising. I'm reading I read
the New York Times every day, and I'm reading basically
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attack pieces almost every day against President Trump. I just
told you off during the break, I was telling you
about some ridiculous stuff that the president has done where
he's being attacked, you know, being called a liar, basically
not saying he's a liar. He just said this week,
he said this, last week he said that, And that's
what New York what you were just saying, Yeah, and
(22:14):
that's the New York Times. Well, but it's less than
it is less than what's going on. That's the point
I'm comparing the two, Neil, you know.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
That's where we've gotten to it.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
That's exactly. That's right, It's it's here's your choice. It's
worse or worse, Yeah, exactly. And I'm watching you know
who's making the rounds of the news outlets. Marjorie Taylor
Green has completely changed her tune. She is now attacking
Mike Johnson and the Republican leadership in the House for
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being anti woman, marginalizing women. I mean, she is going
to become the liberals, the Democrats' biggest champion here.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
It's it's all okay, politics is prison and if you don't, oh,
that's all to a gang in prison.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Yes, I you know what, that is an excellent line.
I'm gonna I'm gonna use that and take credit for that. Okay,
ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I just said that.
What Neil just I just use a ventriloquis voice to
utter that phrase, sounding just like Neil done.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Well yeah, no, well said, well said. Okay. You've been
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KFI AM six forty Bill Handle Here it is.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
A Taco Tuesday, December ninth, And as we do every Tuesday,
right around this time, we go to Rich Dumurow, kfi's
tech guy, heard every Saturday right here on KFI eleven
am to two pm. He's on KTLA TV everyday, Instagram
at rich on tech website, rich on tech dot TV.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Good morning, Rich, Good morning to you.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Bill.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Okay, here we go.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
We start with a really interesting story about Australia. Now
we've been talking and I was just the entire world's
been talking, particularly us. Here we hear about a social
media band, I mean, an outright media band for kids.
Australia has just picked that one up and it's actually there.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
You want to talk about that, please.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
This is the big.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Fear of the US tech companies what they're doing in
Australia because in the US, you know, we don't really
have a lot of regulations around this stuff.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
And so all the tech companies, like the Tiktoks of.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
The world, the metas, the Instagrams, they the snaps, they
have all tried to make their own parental rules, right,
And I'm putting up air quotes because they're trying. But
the reason they're trying is because they don't want the
US government to do anything about this. They want to
be in charge. Well, in Australia they said, you know what,
enough is enough, And on Wednesday there is no more
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social media for children under sixteen.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
That's it.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
So more than a million accounts are going to be
shut down on Wednesday. These platforms including TikTok, Instagram, YouTube,
Facebook x, Snapchat, Reddit, they all have to take reasonable
steps to make sure that kids under sixteen cannot open
up new accounts and they have to close down the
old accounts or else they face fines.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Now the word you said is reasonable attempts. Let's get
into that.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
I love it the lawyer coming out.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Right, because all I can think of, Okay, I'm a
fourteen year old and I'm gonna lie.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Are you sixteen?
Speaker 5 (02:08):
Well yeah i am, but I'm not right and they're
already doing that, by the way. So basically, here's what's
happened in America over the past you know, ten years
or so. Everyone's been raw, raw, raw about all the technology. Right,
sign everyone up, Get everyone signed up. So every parent
sign up, their kids, let their kids sign up, and
you get to that little speed.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Bump that says how old are you?
Speaker 5 (02:28):
Parent goes, I'll just put whatever age, twenty one, whatever,
didn't matter, right. Well, now what's happening is all these
companies are starting to use AI to figure out the
child's actual age. So even if your kid put in
twenty one because there was more convenient for the parents
and not have to deal with all that stuff. Now
the platforms are coming back and saying, we've scanned the
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way that this account is used and we've used AI
to do that, and we've realized that this child is
closer to thirteen than twenty one, like the account was
originally established that so now we're going to retro change
that and you have to fight.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
To change it back. All right. This is happening on
Google too.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
People are getting notifications on Google saying, hey, your account
looks like you're under eighteen or twenty one or whatever.
You have to verify you are who you say you are.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Yeah, sorry interrupt, But the first thing that came to
mind using AI to figure out someone's age, how does
that work? You know? What is is it an algorithm
that has to be developed putting everything together. Birthday parties,
they go to texts that they send each other. What
is the tool that's used or how does the tool work?
Speaker 5 (03:39):
Yeah, I mean, look, they're all slightly different. Like Roadblocks
is taking a visual scan of kids' faces and so
you know, starting in January here in the US, kids
will have to scan their face and they will be
put into a bucket of ages based on their face.
And then other platforms are using different signals like you mentioned,
(03:59):
you know, who you text, who you follow, what you say,
what you post, what you look at. These are all
signals that are fed into AI, and the algorithm has
been trained on what people in their twenties do, what
people in there, you know, thirteen to sixteen do, what
people in their you know, fifties do, and so that
way they can put you into a bucket of people
that makes sense for what you're doing on there. It's
(04:21):
not always going to be perfect, but especially with kids,
you know, they're not looking at fine vacations, you know.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
In the Baltic Sea or whatever, you know what I mean, They're.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
They're looking at certain things, certain influencers, and they know
that they're that age.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
So you know, I'm just thinking because I always look
older than my age.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I'm just the oldest looking person.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
And I'm thinking, Okay, you know, let me throw something
at you Armenian teenagers where the girls are growing mustaches
quicker than you know the rest of the population. That,
by the way, is going to get me about fifteen emails.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Why do you do that to rich He doesn't want
to stand next to that.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah, well I have to throw it. I have to
throw it at him because he doesn't get this stuff
on his on his other shows that he does.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Oh, I certainly do not.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Yeah, Ktla doesn't.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
I'm gonna look, I'm gonna, I'm just gonna.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
I looked at your history on Instagram. So the things
that you're looking at those words hard candies, newspapers, magnifying
glass advertisements. Oh, those giant remote controls with like three
buttons on them, the volume up, down, power. So look,
(05:31):
they can tell that you are of a certain age
just by looking at your history.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Let's put it that way.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Wow, Okay, I'm sorry, I'm not stunned, but I'm thinking
how far it can go?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
And there's really no limit.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
One of the things I just real quickly before we
take a break and we go into the shopping tips
and what you can do to really get great prices
on so many things. Is I was thinking, Sam Altman,
when you were talking about how these companies do not
want these these major companies, Sam Altman chat GPT he
(06:07):
They showed an interview with him a few months ago
where he argued that, yes, we do need and over
the course of years, we do need some controls from
the government. We do need some guardrails. And then something
he said a few days ago, no guardrails. Nope, we
have to do it on our own. So things are
changing pretty quickly.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
Yeah, it's in their best interest to not have the guardrails.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
It's in our.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Best interest to have at least some guardrails. But that's
still to be determined because everyone has a different opinion
on how those should work, and it's getting tougher and
tougher for people to agree on what we all agree on.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
If you've noticed, yep, and now it is a holiday
season upon us and we are buying still very strong.
I mean, sales, particularly Internet sales are through the roof.
So Rich, let's go through some of the tips you have.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
Yeah, so I guess my first tip is really for Amazon,
because this is where people do a lot of their shopping.
So Amazon added a new feature this year that you
may not even notice, but it's called price history. So
look for a little link near the price tag that
shows you the price history. So if you're wondering if
you should buy something, you can tap that and you'll
(07:20):
get thirty to ninety days worth of pricing data, so
you can say, Okay, this is actually on sale at
a pretty reasonable number compared to the past.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
If you want to get this information longer or more
of it.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
I guess I should say, there's a website called Camel
Camel Camel. I believe we've spoken about this before, but
you basically paste in one of these Amazon product URLs,
it'll give you a whole bunch of data on pricing.
And if you just want this information always on your
Amazon product pages, you can install an extension called kip A,
k EEPA and bill. Once you install that, there's so
(07:53):
much information that they put on your Amazon product listings.
You may uninstall it because you're like, Okay, this is
just too much new information for me. For instance, I'm
looking at this Amazon kindle fire seven and I can
tell you, you know, all this information that can give
you product data variations, all these things on the page.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
While you're looking at your Amazon listings.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
So what would you go?
Speaker 3 (08:16):
All right, well, real quickly, why would you go to
Amazon as opposed to one of the apps that shows
the price across the board, not just Amazon but all
of the other retailers.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
Well, here's the thing about Amazon, bill. They have these
crawlers that go out on the web, and as soon
as the price gets marked down somewhere let's say it's
at Target, Macy's, best Buy, whatever, Amazon pretty much matches.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
That price almost instantly.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
So the thing about Amazon shoppers is that they pretty
much are loyal to Amazon. They start, you know, there's
different places where people start their searches for things for shopping.
A lot of people don't even go to Google. They
just go straight to Amazon. And I don't know if
you're like that, but I sure am. And when I
do try to comparison shop, you find that, Okay, well
(09:05):
it's the same price at best Buy. It's a lot
easier for Amazon just to deliver this thing to my
front door, yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
No kidding, And then return policy go to ups because
Lindsay buys a lot of stuff and we get box
after box and I'm the one that drops it off.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
They don't even argue, just here we go.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
They do this zip with the scanner and you are done,
and you're in and out in thirty seconds.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
Yeah, so we that we did that two days ago
and we had a whole bunch of stuff.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
And now I will.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
Tell you, your return is not completely done until Amazon
reviews it. So it seems like they give you the
money instantly, and sometimes they do. But sometimes, and we
have had this happen where they do that whole system
and you still don't get your refund because after they
go through all their checks and balances, they say, wait,
you return the wrong thing, you scan the wrong thing, whatever.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Sometimes it's right, sometimes it's not all right.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
Two sites that I love for deals Slick Deals. If
you're looking for deals. This is crowdsourced, which means people
on the inner net post great deals, other people vote
up the best ones. Deal News another one, but they
use editors. Simply Codes this website. If you're looking for
a promo code before you check out, simplycodes dot com
(10:13):
is one of the best ways to do that. I
know we'll run out of time, so let me give
you one good one here. If you're shopping for groceries
over the holiday season, maybe making those dinners, there's a
great new feature at a website called get savewise dot
com slash grocery Get savewise dot com slash grocery bill.
If you install this extension on your browser, the next
(10:35):
time you go to Ralphs dot com, Vonds dot com,
it will activate all those digital coupons and load them
onto your card so you don't have to do all
that work.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
That sounds absolutely great. What are TVs a bargain? Computers?
Speaker 3 (10:51):
What are we looking at in terms of the great
bargains this holiday season?
Speaker 5 (10:56):
I think all of it. I mean, I know we've
heard that tariff's term being thrown around a lot the news,
but I'll be honest. I mean, the prices we're seeing
this year are pretty competitive. You know, fifty five inch
TVs now, I mean now people are up to sixty
five to seventy five inch TVs eighty five quickly coming up.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
So TVs are a good deal.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
Laptops, I mean, I'm seeing a lot of deals on laptops,
and in fact, slick deals which I mentioned people are
asking like which laptop to get which laptop? All the
prices I'm seeing are fantastically discounted, and you can find
a list of the best deals going at slick Deals.
You can get even Apple's latest MacBook Air for like
(11:33):
seven hundred and fifty dollars right now. So I mean
we're really seeing a lot of discounts on these things.
Working up a list as well on my website. I've
got like the top ten gadgets people are buying this year,
and almost all of them are discounted.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Okay, that's the website is Rich on tech dot TV. Rich.
Thank you. We'll catch you on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Thanks Bill Saturday. I'm sorry, I'll catch you on Saturday.
I think I was talking to Joel Saturday, eleven am
to two pm.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Rich.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
You have a good one, Okay, Happy happy holidays, even
though I'm going to talk to.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
You before the holidays officially, all right.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Some of the stories we're looking at, and this piece
of news is directly, uh directly affects the story that
I'm doing. One of the stories is President Trump is
on his way today to Pennsylvania to talk about the
quote affordability problem that seems to be the mantra is
the affordability problem. Last week the President called the prices
(12:32):
and the affordability issue the greatest con job ever conceived
by the Democrats. Well we're a week later, not so
much anymore. So the news and who's going to believe what?
There was a survey that just came out and it
was done by the News Literacy Project, which is an
(12:53):
independent think tank.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
And here's the problem.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
And we're talking about teenagers now, Okay, when they engage
with the news, If they engage with the news, what
they hear is a cacophony of voices, I mean from
all over the place, and they don't know who to believe.
Reporters are biased, reporters make mistakes. It's a dying industry.
You can't believe anything you hear.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
This fall.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
This was a study and documented the negative attitudes and
that's where it went towards the news media among thirteen
to eighteen year old Americans. And the press doesn't do
very well at all. Now, it doesn't do well with adults. Man,
it doesn't do even well or not so well or worse.
(13:43):
I was well said among teenagers. Opinions are still forming,
so The Literacy Project asked the teenagers describe one word,
describe what the media means to you.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
How would you describe the media?
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Eighty four percent said something negative, biased, crazy, boring, fake, bad, depressing, confusing, scary,
And more than half of these teenagers said that journalists
regularly engage in unethical behaviors like making up details or
(14:21):
quotes and stories, or paying sources or taking visual images
out of contexts, doing favors for advertisers.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
They're being bought off, and you know.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
As they're studying this, what is going on, Well, they
reflect the attitude that they're exposed to, because teenagers are
particularly susceptible to outside sources and forces, and they're more
affected by, for example, shaming or affected by peers, and
(14:56):
they're certainly more affected by news negatively as they view it. Okay,
so what is what's one of the reasons, Well, the
premiere reason why all of this negative news happens to
be because of the president. The President is at the forefront,
(15:17):
forefront of telling us that news is fake, that it
is completely biased. As a matter of fact, it was
relating to that double tap on that drug ship, right
that we saw the first tap, the first attack on
the latest attack on the first video on the latest
attack of the ship that were the boat that was
(15:41):
carrying the drugs. And huge controversy as to were the
two survivors that of the attack who actually survived the
first hit. Were they innocent, well not so much innocent.
Were they simply grabbing onto pieces of debris, or were
(16:02):
they trying to actually overturn the boat to get back
in to continue there, to continue their trip to sell.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Drugs or to deliver drugs. And there's two versions to
this one.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
The Democrats and the Republicans, both the leadership and the
House saw it. The Republicans said, we saw them trying
to get back in the boat. We saw them actively
getting back.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
In the boat.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
The Democrats saw two survivors that are simply just floating
and waving to the airplanes that were flying above, waving
to the attack the attack airplanes.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
And that's two very different views. So now who do
you believe?
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Okay, last week the President was asked, would you release
in a press conference in the White House, would you
release that video the second video, and the President said, yeah,
I'd have no problem with that. This week he's changed
his tune, which is not unusual for President Trump, and
(17:09):
now he has thrown it to Pete Hegseth and the
it'll be the Secretary of War, Secretary of Defense will
make that decision. And the same ABC reporter who asked
the question said it again a week later and said,
mister president, will you released and he changed his mind,
he didn't go back to the first statement.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
And she said, but last week you.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Said you were okay of releasing these and now you're not.
And he looked at her and with disdain said, uh,
fake news, ABC News, fake right there. Okay, So with that,
why do teenagers not believe what's going on in the
(17:55):
media Because people look up to the president. The president
is the president that states I mean, that is a
position that is sacracanct.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Are you seriously saying that young people respect Donald Trump?
Speaker 3 (18:09):
I'm saying that young people respect the presidency more than
they respect the media. And because the media isn't attacking
the presidency the way the president attacks the media. I mean,
they do plenty of attacking, don't misunderstand, but the media
doesn't come out right there and say he's there, that
(18:29):
the president is a liar.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
You can't trust him, you can't believe him.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
The mainstream media does not say that, whether it's true
or not. The teenagers, the non mainstream media says that,
and certainly the President says that of the media, you
can't trust them, they are liars. Not well, eighty four
percent said something negative, words like bias, crazy, boring, fake, bad, depressing, confusing, scary,
(18:58):
and why is that. Well, as they're looking at it,
the teenagers are, you know, they're fairly susceptible to what's
going going on where well, the internet, they pay attention
to the Internet.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
I don't pay attention to internet.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
News other than the New York Times and CNN and
a few that I that I get alerts from and
stories from the rest of the world. I don't get attention.
I don't pay attention to. But then I'm a baby boomer,
I'm not a teenager. So why would you watch national
news or read mainstream media when you are being told
(19:35):
over and over again it is fake, none of it
is true. Everything elections are now rigged. It is It's terrible.
And it's not just President Trump. It's across the board
where you have the Republican parties say, and that's the
Republican Party saying when everything negative is said.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
It's biased, it's lies, it's fake.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Now one of the things that I am being accused of,
and I think rightly so as I lean more towards
Democrats these days, or lean more against Republicans, uh, And
that's because as Democrats are biased one biased, the Republicans
(20:21):
are more biased, or they come off more biased. You
don't see too many Democrats when there is a positive
story say that's a lie, that's rigged, that's fake news.
You're looking at me very strangely. What leader is saying that?
Speaker 1 (20:40):
What our very own leader in California says that that
stuff all the time.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
He doesn't talk about the media being rigged. He does
not say the media is rigged. That he doesn't do
Now he's okay, So.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
That's like saying that you don't talk about your malaprops.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
Why would he say in his why would he have a.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Problem with mainstream media when mainstream media favors Democrats because.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
He is being attacked and mainstream media hold on and
mainstream media.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Reports that they report it.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
And that's the difference. I think it's a big deal.
And the whole thing is it's not only President Trump.
I'm not a Republican. But I'm honest, okay.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
But.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Mainstream media reports and mainstream media for the most part,
is pretty objective about it. I watch national news, New
York Times. Actually, the New York Times has become so
anti Trump. It really is surprising. I'm reading I read
the New York Times every day, and I'm reading basically
(21:53):
attack pieces almost every day against President Trump. I just
told you off during the break, I was telling you
about some ridiculous stuff that the president has done where
he's being attacked, you know, being called a liar, basically
not saying he's a liar. He just said this week,
he said this, last week he said that, And that's
what New York what you were just saying, Yeah, and
(22:14):
that's the New York Times. Well, but it's less than
it is less than what's going on. That's the point
I'm comparing the two, Neil, you know.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
That's where we've gotten to it.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
That's exactly. That's right, It's it's here's your choice. It's
worse or worse, Yeah, exactly. And I'm watching you know
who's making the rounds of the news outlets. Marjorie Taylor
Green has completely changed her tune. She is now attacking
Mike Johnson and the Republican leadership in the House for
(22:49):
being anti woman, marginalizing women. I mean, she is going
to become the liberals, the Democrats' biggest champion here.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
It's it's all okay, politics is prison and if you don't, oh,
that's all to a gang in prison.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Yes, I you know what, that is an excellent line.
I'm gonna I'm gonna use that and take credit for that. Okay,
ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I just said that.
What Neil just I just use a ventriloquis voice to
utter that phrase, sounding just like Neil done.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Well yeah, no, well said, well said. Okay. You've been
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Speaker 3 (23:29):
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