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January 13, 2026 24 mins

(January 13,2026)

KTLA & KFI tech reporter Rich DeMuro joins the show for ‘Tech Tuesday.’ Today, Rich talks about Apple tapping Google to help bring more AI features to the iPhone. Owner of Rams and SoFi Stadium battles Inglewood over billboards, roads and sewers. Apple fans can buy a piece of history: Steve Jobs desk and bow ties are up for auction.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Thanks KFI AM six forty. Don't handle here.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
On a Tuesday morning, January thirteenth, it is time for
our tech segment with our tech reporter Rich Demurow. Rich
has heard right here Saturdays from eleven am to two pm.
He's on KTLA every day his Instagram address at rich
on tech website, richon tech dot tv with tons and

(00:29):
tons of information.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Rich, good morning, Good morning to you.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Bill.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Okay, well you got me and there was no way
I was not gonna go on this one.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
All right. There is a viral app in China called
are You Dead? Now? This is not their version of
spam a lot Are You Dead yet? No? Are you Dead?

Speaker 3 (00:52):
And it's making on callings of waves and yeah, that
got me going. So you want to explain that.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
I mean, yeah, it's definitely a recognizable name, a memorable name,
a name you can't ignore, and it's one of the
top paid apps in China right now. Yes, it's called
are You Dead. Here's how it works. If you live alone,
you basically tap a check in button every single day.
If you don't check in for two days in a row,

(01:20):
the app will automatically alert an emergency contact of your choosing.
So the idea here is for the elderly, and not
just the elderly, but apparently young people live alone more
and more in China, like this loneliness epidemic apparently is
a big deal over there too, and so they check
in with someone that can say, oh, you're still alive.

(01:43):
And that's basically it for the app. But I will
tell you this bill at the end of the day.
The Financial Times interviewed the creators. They said the present
name was not intended to be bad, but to serve
as a reminder for us to cherish the present, which
I thought was quite an you're saying.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah, you really got me going.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
I was very excited there for a moment with this app,
but I guess it does make sense. It basically is
a wellness search, just so well, it's a you know,
anybody coming in for a wellness check and are you dead?
It's sort of like I'm falling and I can't get up,
but seriously, I can't get.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Up because yeah, you can't get up enough because you're dead.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah you can pretty much.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
You can download this in the US, by the way,
and The funny thing is it's almost like my last name.
It's translated in the US to d mum. You d
e m u m u. It's ninety nine cents. So
if you want this in America, you can get it.
Let me d e m u m u.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Okay, let me ask something. It's as you said, it's
almost like a wellness check. You do.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
You have to check in with this thing to let
them know you are alive every hour every day or
is it figure out that you're sort of dead.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
No, it's it's uh no, you do have to check in,
so every day you have to tap it. If you
look at the app, it literally just looks like one
big button and it says check in today, And so
you would just the idea is you would get up,
tap the app, and your what your you know, loved
ones would not get an alert that you are dead.
I mean really, it's a welfare check, you know, Like

(03:26):
I understand how check in?

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah, but how many people?

Speaker 3 (03:28):
I misplaced my phone for days at a time sometimes, uh,
and I'm looking really, yeah, I have.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
I miss placed.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
I misplace my phone all the time, and I find
it in weird places, even with fine mine because my
you know, wife, I have call my phone and I
try to figure yeah, so I uh, I would be
so dead so many times. But actually it sounds pretty good.
It's not a bad idea.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
And how's it. I'm assuming it's doing well because it
is clever.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
It's the top paid app in China right now. I
mean that's pretty good. And it's like, I mean, here
in the US it's ninety nine cents. I think it's yeah,
probably about the same over there. But I actually think
this is a there's a better idea here. You know,
we all have these wearables. I'm no joke, Bill, I
am wearing three wearables as we speak. I mean, this

(04:22):
is insane, but I test this stuff for a living.
But I mean, I've got this smart ring, I've got
a smart watch, and this new smart Ai wearable. Here's
the thing. It would not be a stretch, and I
know this would be a privacy issue, but it would
not be such a stretch where you can just program
your smart watch or your smart ring. Of course, it
knows you're alive, right to text someone on a daily basis,

(04:45):
or to text someone when you're not alive if you
stop moving. And by the way, there actually is on
this pixel watch. I'm wearing a feature called loss of
pulse detection, and this was just approved in the US.
It was approved over in Europe first, then it was
approved here. But basically, it's a sensor on this watch
that if your pulse stops, it will call for help.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
Calls now, so it'll call what nine to one one?
Let's you okay? That's actually yeah, We're we're moving in
that direction. I'm about to get one of those wearables
because I walk by myself and I could and my
neighbors all hate me. So if I, you know, took
a flyer and you know, hit the pavement, no and
would do anything about it.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
So that makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
Story we did this morning during the news is about
Apple and how it has not been at the forefront
of this AI business and it's moving into that direction
trying to catch up.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
You want to share.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
Yeah, this is a huge announcement from Apple and kind
of unlikely that they would even do this, but we
know that Apple has last when it comes to AI
on the iPhone. They've got something called Apple Intelligence. About
two years ago they showed off all these new features
that were supposed to supercharge serri, make it smart, make

(06:10):
it understand your emails, your photos, your contacts, everything that
was stored on your phone, well that never happened. Meanwhile,
you've got Gemini from Google that is just really doing
an amazing job with AI across a lot of phone
especially Samsung's. Then you've got open Ai, which has just
done incredible work with AI. And meanwhile you have Apple,

(06:33):
one of the world's largest tech company. It's just sitting
there twiddling their thumbs. They tried to do it, they've
admitted defeat, and so now they're turning to Google's Gemini
to help them get Siri up and running with a
new version that's going to have many more AI features.
And I think this is a good thing because Apple
tried to do this themselves, they found that it was

(06:55):
very tough, and so basically they're going to take Google's
model Gemini. They're going to use it to put it
on your phone and get all of your information in
a private way, sliced and diced by this Gemini AI
so that you can tap into it. And I think
they're doing this in a very smart way.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
Now is it a question of it's just too expensive
or it becomes too difficult for Apple to catch up,
or it just makes financial sense because of course everything
is based on finance. That is doing this, And how
do you compare it with Apple developing their own chip,
for example, which had to be astronomical money.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Right, Okay, so good, good question. So a couple things here.
Number One, Apple has all the money in the world,
so it's not necessarily a money problem. But here's the thing.
Google has been working on AI, which was previously referred
to in many circles as machine learning, for decades, whereas
Apple not so much. So they had Siri, but Siria

(07:56):
was never truly smart. It never really learned, it never
really adapted, It wasn't really using AI to do anything.
And that's pretty much the only thing that Apple had
all these years. Now. When it comes to the chip,
Apple was planning for their own chip for decades. For many,
many years, they were deciding like, okay, one day, we're
going to jump off and we're going to make our
own chips for computers. So they had this runway where

(08:19):
when they started doing that, it just supercharged their business.
They never really had that base for AI, and so
when they started to try to build this thing that
open Ai had been working on for years in secret,
and Google had been working on for years, and they
had all the people in place and all the you know,
mechanics in place. They just could not compete. They found
that the more they did, the tougher it was to

(08:40):
do this. So I think that's where we stand. They've said,
you know what, and I don't think this precludes Apple
from ever doing their own thing. I think they may
start from now saying Okay, let's try to figure out
how to do our own thing in the future. But
right now they need Gemini to do what they can't do.
You know, it's been several years now that Apple's tried
to introduce this Siri stuff. It just hasn't happened. So

(09:04):
this is going to allow them to do that a
lot faster.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Hey, a question about my iPhone and Siri.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
Literally fifty percent of the time when I say hey, Siri, uh,
it doesn't work well. For example, right now, the phone's
in front of me and I just said that and
nothing comes up and it's either.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Hard of hearing.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
Isn't it supposed to sort of recognize my voice and
learn and you know, do a better job.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
It should Now if your phone is flipped upside down,
if your if your screen is faced down, the hey
Siri functionality does not work.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
So I understand, but it's not. Yeah, it's not.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
I'm looking at it. I'm looking at it right now,
and half the time it doesn't work. Hey Siri, here
we go. Okay, who is rich demurrow?

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Well it may it may not answer that.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Here we go.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Well here's the other thing.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
And okay, hold on, I'm going to read this.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
And I'm American journalists and reporter currently working as a
tech reporter for KTLA Channel five in Los Angeles. Also
appears on the KTLA five morning News. Doesn't say a
word about KFI.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Holy moly, Rich, you were arrested for that.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Oh gosh, Oh no, Siri, look a look at the
time we got to go, oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
But it really SI doesn't get everything right that it's
not a question of getting everything right. It just doesn't listen.
Half the time. I just can't get it. So I'm
assuming that Siri has not advanced, because it's been I've
had the same problem for a couple of years, and
it's over three phones. So and by the way, I'm
not just pointing that out. Are these just holes in

(10:44):
the program that have not really been filled yet.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Well, I think look, I do think that as Siri
has definitely not been the best assistant. I think when
it came out it was amazing. People loved it. It
did a lot of things, things like, uh, sending text messages,
interacting with certain apps. I just don't think it's expanded
in the way that we now have this natural language
interface with so many other gadgets. I mean, Alexa Plus

(11:12):
has gotten you know, Alexa got an upgrade. Google went
from Google Assistant to Gemini. You can talk to chatch
Ebt like you would a human. So I mean there's
just too much, too many other things that have gotten
better in the time that Siri has stayed the same,
and the whole hey Siri thing. You know, by the way,
you can now just say Siri if you want to
activate your phone. That process has not really changed in

(11:35):
recent years. You can always reset that, turn it off,
turn it back on. Maybe you'll get some better some
better uh luck with that. But I think that in general,
people have just gotten used to AI and all the
things that can do, and they're just turning to too
many other products and they're not considering anything on their
iPhone to be AI. Even though Apple has built in

(11:55):
this thing called Apple Intelligence, people don't even consider that AI.
It's Chatchy, it's Gemini. These are all proprietary eponyms at
this point for AI, that Apple is just not in
that world.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
Now, I've noticed that Alexa works very well when I
talked to my device on my kitchen counter, you know,
for example, Alexa Louder. That was for everybody who's listening,
by the way, where they've just been blown out of
the water.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
So just wanted to point that out, all right, Rich.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
Oh you just wanted to do that, That's all you want.
You had no point there except just to say Alexa Louder.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
Yeah, that's exactly correct. It was completely gratuitous, just to
be a dick. That's absolutely correct. Okay, Rich, We'll catch
you this weekend, and we'll catch you next week.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
Take care.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
Thanks Thanks Bill.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
Now, Stan Kronky, I'm gonna change gears for a moment here.
He is the billionaire owner of the La Rams and
he does a lot of He's a big fan of litigation,
and it's he started with him targeting billboards that his
lawyer said threatened the prosperity of his five and a
half billion dollar sports and entertainment complex, and that didn't

(13:10):
go his way in court, and so he's looking around
and they find another reason to sue the city of Inglewood,
where Sofi Stadium is housed, and his host to this
year's World Cup games and the Super Bowl in twenty
twenty seven and the twenty twenty eight Olympic events. And
so his companies are now claiming that the city stiffed

(13:33):
his company on almost four hundred million dollars that they
spent on public roads, that the company spent on public roads, sewers,
other infrastructure, police, fire protection, and so here goes the litigation.
Crunky's Crunkies companies say their project literally saved Englewood from bankruptcy.

(13:55):
Englewood is saying billionaires are not above the law. Cronkie
is worth almost twenty seven billion dollars developed Hollywood Park
to house so far that was a three hundred acre site.
He did it without public financing, but his lawyers are
arguing the city undercut his investment. It opened in twenty

(14:17):
twenty one, It has the stadium, it has the YouTube theater,
six thousand seats. Office retail, residential buildings. And it all
started with an approval of a contract in April where
Wow Wow Media was going to install sixty digital billboards

(14:37):
around his area and facility and it would share revenues.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
With the city.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
Well, Cronky's company said, no, the deal violates our twenty
fifteen development agreement that prohibits billboards near so far, and
it diverts money away from Cronky's investment. And because it
takes advantage of traffic that is going to his venues,
and billboards are based on how much traffic goes past them,

(15:09):
and so they said the signage would undercut exclusive sponsorships
and ambush marketing around some of these huge sporting events. Well,
the judge redicted that one and said the development agreement
with the city is invalid because it was improperly enacted. Okay,
it keeps on going. The Mayor of Englewood, we have

(15:32):
every right to use public land for what we want
to do. I don't see any legal arguments that would
give them control over what we do with city lands.
And so in another chapter on this one, in another avenue,
Cronkey's companies are arguing the city still has to reimburse
them for the three hundred and seventy six million dollars

(15:52):
in public improvements that he paid for, and the city
is not reimbursing him, and it just keeps on going
and going and going. Now, what gets really interesting about
this guy, Kronki actually has a history of playing hardball
with his teams and the cities. If you remember, he

(16:17):
moved the Rams from Saint Louis to La in twenty sixteen,
and that prompted years of litigation and ended up with
a seven hundred and ninety million dollar settlement that Kronkie
paid to the city of Saint Louis.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Those are big numbers.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
You remember, La LA had the Rams for a rezillion years,
then the Rams moved to Saint Louis. Then Saint Louis
moved back to the Rams. The Baltimore Colts sort of
disappeared from Baltimore.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
Overnight. They just left. People do that.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
Owners of these these teams just tend to up and
move their teams. Okay, we're done, guys with that now. Now, memorabilia,
the amount of money that people spend on this stuff
is just insane. Now, I'm a big fan of history

(17:19):
and the idea of having a signature or a sign
photo of the Wright brothers, for example, to me, is
just the end all be all. I don't understand sports
memorabilia except maybe a signed Babe Ruth ball or one
of the original Honus Watt Wagner baseball cards back before

(17:40):
the turn of the last century. It's just I don't
understand it well. And Disney, of course crazy memorabilia. Well,
coming up, there's an auction and big money is being
paid for this auction. This is Apple memorabilia, specifically Steve
Jobs memorabilia. There is a check, a signed five hundred

(18:05):
dollars check, signed by Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak, and
it was written a few weeks before the creation of Apple.
It was on behalf of Apple, signed five hundred dollars
check and they figure that check is going to go
for five hundred thousand dollars on an auction that's ending

(18:28):
the twenty ninth of this month, and it includes the
early items of Apple, childhood belongings of Jobs. He died
in twenty eleven, as you know, age of fifty six,
battling pancreatic cancer. And people have been buying laptops, smartphones, headphones,

(18:49):
smart washes. What do you think it original mac costs,
just especially if I don't know if anybody has it
in the original packaging. I mean, can you imagine what
that would cost? And so this is one of those things,
and I mean, we're going crazy on this.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Now. That check is worth so much.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
Money because Jobs didn't sign autographs, so owning a document
with his name on it, now that is worth some money.
Other items up for auction include the account statement of
nineteen seventy six, the company's first financial document, also an
Apple one computer prototype board used to validate Apple's first computer.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
I mean, this is real history.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
With Apple, and the auction has all kinds of memorabilia,
vintage Apple posters, Apple rainbow classes.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
Did you know that there was Apple rainbow glasses?

Speaker 3 (19:52):
Letters, magazines, older computers, historic items and where did all
these came from?

Speaker 2 (19:58):
Come from? Who collected all this?

Speaker 3 (20:00):
Step brother had kept a collection for decades and now
it's up for auction.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
There's a bedroom desk that was in his house.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
And it was in a garage where the Apple one
computers were put together, because remember he started with Wosney
Neak and his parents' garage papers from years early years
are inside the desks so far forty four thousand dollars,
which doesn't seem to be a lot. Eight track tapes

(20:34):
that feature music from Bob Dylan, for example, is one
of his favorite musicians. A seventy seven poster featuring a
red apple that was in the family living room, and
that's over sixteen thousand dollars. Here's something else you probably
don't know, is we know he was wearing that black turtleneck.

(20:55):
He sort of created that look jeans and a black
turtleneck and sneak, which you know I own.

Speaker 4 (21:02):
I have little pieces of memorabilia for people like Lincoln
and stuff like that. I own a piece of a
brick from Lincoln's home. I own a piece of turtleneck from.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
I didn't know that. I did not have them in.

Speaker 4 (21:17):
My shop to remind me of people that have done
great things.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
That is cool. And by the way, bow ties. Did
you know that Steve Jobs used to wear bow ties?
I didn't.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
He wore one when he introduced the Macintosh computer in
nineteen eighty four. Nineteen eighty four, it sold for thirty
five million dollars. So there is an entire collection, probably
the biggest item of Steve Jobs and Apple's memorabilia comes
from when he was circumcised. Now you got to be

(21:52):
a little careful about that because there is a biological
aspect to that.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
What freeze dried? Yes, yes, that works.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
And then immediately I go into Moyl jokeston't I which
I'm not going to do. Okay, so much for that
should be interesting. And then the Disney stuff. You know
what an original Mickey mouse Watch is worth from the thirties,
I mean the real thing, and that's tens of thousands.
There's stuff from Disney that's millions of dollars. And then
the other sports memorabilia I don't get original air Jordan's

(22:30):
the guy still alive and those go for what two
and a half million dollars? I mean, yeah, that's pretty outrageous.
All right, guys, we are done. By the way, I
wasn't very serious about the circumcision of Steve Josh what.
I don't even know if he was circumcised. Anybody have

(22:51):
any idea if Steve John's a circumcise or not. You
want to look that up? Was you? And that's that's
worth researching. Amy shaking your head saying no, we're not
going to do that. Hey, this is the information we
get on this show and none other. We're done, guys,
Gary is Gary and Shannon? Or is Michael Monk still

(23:12):
with Shannon this week?

Speaker 2 (23:14):
I believe Michael is in again today.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
Okay, Michael Monks is in. Okay, the Monk Meister, you
got it? And he is in for Gary this week,
I'm assuming. And then we come back tomorrow morning. Neil
is back. Amy is certainly back.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
Cono.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
We're starting a GoFundMe campaign for his car because his
engine blew up and we need some help here.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
And I'll jump in. I'll jump in, I will already
what just pay it already? Very uncomfortable to just close
out the show.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
Thanks, Yeah, does that mean you're wait a secon Does
that mean you're not going to take the help from anybody?

Speaker 2 (23:57):
I'll always take help, thank you asking?

Speaker 3 (24:00):
Okay, and then will Cole Schreiber. So we're all back
again tomorrow. This is an Ann Let's not forget Ann
Kfi AM six point forty.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
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