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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Kf I AM six forty Bill Handle.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Here.
Speaker 4 (00:10):
It is a Tuesday morning, February third time for a
tech segment with Rich Demurow. Rich heard live every Saturday
right here at KFI eleven am to two pm. He's
on KTLA TV every morning, Instagram at Rich on Tech website,
richontech dot TV, and good morning Rich.
Speaker 5 (00:31):
Good morning to you, Bill.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Oh there you are. Okay, what ends up happening?
Speaker 4 (00:36):
And I want to explain a little bit of inside
baseball to everybody who's listening.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Is these topics and Rich's case send.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
He sends them to me because this is stuff that
he wants to talk about, which I'm always interested in.
So the first topic and it sort of went, huh really,
and that is the question how to watch the super
Bowl this weekend?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
And I'm thinking, besides with your eyeballs red, which you
want to explain this to me?
Speaker 5 (01:03):
Okay, Well, yeah, I knew actually when I wrote that,
I knew you were gonna pick up on this. So
just to be clear, yes, you can still watch the
super Bowl on NBC if you have it on your
streaming service like a YouTube TV or a Hulu TV
Live whatever you've got it, no problem, Spectrum Direct TV.
(01:24):
You can also watch it over the air for free,
right like, if you have an antenna, you can watch it.
So those are the two like basics. But we're talking
about streaming because I cover technology, and of course I'm
curious to see how this has evolved, this event with streaming.
And last year was a big year for the Super
Bowl because it was the first time that I remember
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that it was super easy to stream for free to
anyone on Fox's two B app. This year, NBC owns
the game apparently, and they are using Peacock as their
streaming service. And here is the thing. They're doing it
in a great four k HDR stream, but you have
to be on a paid plan to watch it, which
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I think is just wild compared to last year, so
many people got used to just downloading this app on
all their devices and watching the Super Bowl for free.
Not the case this year.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Okay, so I have YouTube TV, will I be able
to watch it? I also have Peacock, But forget about
the Peacock. Well I have any problem watching it on
straight Well, I guess it's just broadcast TV.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
But over a cable in this case.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
No, you should have no problem. The thing about the
Peacock to know, you know, because you're like you said,
your your YouTube TV is basically the equivalent of cable TV, right,
Like it's just it's standard TV. The Peacock stuff is
interesting because even if you're on their basic plan or
their free plan, it does not include live sports. So
you have to be on their Premium plan eleven dollars
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a month or the Plus plan. But here's the thing, Bill,
And this is where this gets a little into conspiracy
theory for me, because every year I've subscribed to Peacock
for the past couple of years on Black Friday because
they had an incredible deal. It was like twenty dollars
for the whole year of Peacock. Well this year they
did not have any deal whatsoever on Black Friday. Now
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to me, it all makes sense why they didn't have
a deal. It's because they know last minute they're going
to get millions of people. I mean, I don't know
how many, but they're going to get lots of people
signing up to watch the Super Bowl on Peacock. All
these people that are cord cutters, cable cutters. They don't
have a you know, standard signal in their home, and
they go, oh, I got peacock. I can download the app,
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and they download the app and it says, oh, not
so fast, ten ninety nine. Buddy, there you go.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
All right, let me ask you when you said something
about antennas. You can run an antenno. Now, when I
was a kid, we used to put the antenna on
the roof. That antenna looks like an arrow with you know,
the spikes coming out, and everybody had one on their
chimney or whatever. Are you talking about putting up an
antenna on the roof like what we used to do.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
Well, I mean, depending on where you live, you may
or may not have to do that. You know, in
Los Angeles the signals are pretty strong from the mountains
that broadcast these TV stations. But you know, it all
depends on where you live. So in my house, I
can put an antenna inside, and I can put it
on a wall and I can get almost every single
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channel for so clear full HD minus maybe one. But
I have to put on a different wall to get
the other one.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
All right, fair enough, and before we take a break, now,
we can't use the term Super Bowl. We have to
use the term the Big Game because we are going
to connect this with a commercial I mentioned, and that
is what to look.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
For in a new TV for the Big Game.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Are we going into that?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Sure? Okay, I didn't know if we were going to break. Okay, yeah,
no we are. We're gonna go to rink after this
in a.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
Minute, Okay. So here's the deal with the new TV.
So Number one, you know, I interview a lot of
experts on my radio show every weekend right here on KFI,
and pretty much every TV expert that I interview, and
I test a lot of these myself. TCL it's incredible.
It does such a great job. The two top picks
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for budget TVs under five hundred dollars under one thousand
dollars tcl QM five K, tcl QM six K.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Bill.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
I was in the Video and Audio Center yesterday. It's
like a local chain of places. And I'm not kidding.
The TV prices have gotten so low. It's been a
while since I've bought one a couple of years. I
just can't believe it. Like I'm talking two thousand dollars
for a ninety eight inch TV. How is that? Possible.
But here's the keyword to look for. Number one thing
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to look for Mini led That is your cheat code.
Look for that on the TV you're buying.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Okay, I have a TV repair shops? Please gone out
of business? Are they just done?
Speaker 5 (06:02):
Funny you say that. I drove past one the other
day and I had been harassing them to do a
story because I'm so curious. They fix a lot of
old electronics, and they will not do the story. They
have no interest whatsoever. Because I'm not trying to advertise,
I don't care. I said, please, let's do it. It'd
be so fun to see what you're doing on a
daily basis. Doesn't want to do it?
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Huh? Okay? Uh ninety eight inch TV?
Speaker 4 (06:26):
I mean that fills up an entire wall, and that's
under two thousand dollars. I mean that it's truly crazy.
How heavy is out? How do you hang it on
the wall without putting in uh you know, basically putting
a new structure in the wall.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
No, I don't think you hang that one. That one
is too Uh. Yeah, I'm looking at on the website
right here. It's truly it's tcl again. Ninety eight inches,
that's just crazy for that.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
You get it? How do you get it in the house? Big?
How do you get it into the house?
Speaker 5 (06:56):
Like this would take yeah, it would take us several
people understand.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Okay, so it's heavy, But how do you physically get
a ninety atv inch TV into your house?
Speaker 2 (07:06):
I mean you've got doors to deal with.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
Yeah, well, it going sideway.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
It is really thin.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
But I'm trying to see if there's a pounds on here,
Like how many pounds this thing weighs? Here? It is
product weight withstand one hundred and seventeen pounds. Total back
is weight two hundred pounds.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
That's easy, Psy, I have even two people lift that
up and going into your house.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
That's amazing. Ninety eight inch TV? All right? Rich?
Speaker 4 (07:31):
A couple of new pieces of technology. One is the AirTag,
Apple's new AirTag.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Now.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
I have to be a big fan of air tag
because I use it whenever I travel. I put in
my suitcase so I know where my luggage is. Is
it on the airplane, is it in the luggage department?
Is it on the carousel? What does the new AirTag
do that the one I have currently doesn't do?
Speaker 5 (07:57):
So the main thing about the new air tag, which,
by the way, you love them. A lot of people
love them. It's been five years since Apple launched them,
if you can believe that, because I remember we were
talking about it right here. This is the first new version.
So here there's two main things.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
That are better.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
Number one a longer what's called precision finding range. So
there's two ways in bill you can tell me if
you've ever done this, but you know, there's two ways
of finding your it's air tag. Number One, you can
look at it on a map. It will show you
where it is on a map at all times anywhere
in the world. And then you can also use this
thing called precision finding. And so precision finding is when
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your phone actually when you're close to the air tag,
it will lead you right to it, and it will
say go left, go right, move forward, move backwards. And
of course there's a speaker on it too. That's a
third way to find it. But that precision finding range
is now longer. So what used to be in my
testing about fifty feet now it's closer to one hundred
and fifty feet. So your phone, if it's nearby in
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your house you know, or somewhere, will lead you right
to where that air tag is.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Okay, and that's great for you know, finding a wallet.
For example, I'm always losing my wallet. I'm always losing
the remote on my TV. Is it small enough that
you can use those reasonably easily?
Speaker 5 (09:17):
Yeah? You know what they actually have, And this is
one of the features I love. On the Amazon fireTV.
My remote actually has a built in finder capability, so
you can go if you lose your Like for me,
if I lose my Amazon fireTV remote, I just say Alexa,
find my remote and it rings the remote. Apple for
some reason, with the Apple TV, even though they have AirTag,
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they have not built that feature into the remote. Why not?
I mean it always gets lost in the couch cushions
or whatever. So yes, there are some like cases you
can buy on Amazon where you kind of put it's
like a rubbery case you can put around your Apple
TV remote that does hold an air tag. Of course,
you know, you can get it for any remote control anyway.
That's so that's another feature. The speaker is now also louder,
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so it's fifty percent louder than before, so that I'll
help you find it. And then also you can now
use your Apple Watch to help you find this thing.
So for the first time, you can have your Apple
Watch lead you to the air tag, which has never
been done before. So that's new. Pricing is still the
same twenty nine dollars for one of these, ninety nine
dollars for a four pack. Existing accessories still work. Usually
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when Apple comes out with something new, they kind of
change a tiny little fraction of it of an inch
or something, and then you have to get all new stuff. No,
everything's going to work just the same. There's no reason
to update your old or to upgrade your old air tags.
They're still going to work just fine moving forward. If
you want the new ones, that's what you can look
forward to.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Yeah, I have a black remote and a black couch
that does not work out very well.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
I'm constantly looking for it. And then the Ring.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
Has what's called a search party for lost dogs. This
is important because everybody loves their dogs.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
Absolutely, and this is one of those things where Ring
was actually very smart, because this is a very sophisticated
system that scans basically random people's camera footage for dogs
and it's using AI. Now that sounds very scary because
if they were doing that for humans, you know, for
like an APB or something like that. People would be
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up in arms. But because it's dogs, it's like they're
wading into it. They're tiptoeing into this field of like,
we have all these cameras out there, and yes, we
can find stuff really well, everything from a license plate
to a person. They're not using it for that just yet,
but dogs, we think everyone can agree on this is
a good use of this technology. So basically they're opening
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this up to everyone. If you have a lost dog,
you can now download the Ring app and you can
upload a picture of your dog and say we're you know,
the neighborhood you're in, and it will scan all those
area cameras for your dog. If it finds it, it
will alert the neighbor, not you. It will alert them
and then they have the option to help find this
dog and reunite it with you.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Does it work on incredibly ugly people?
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Too?
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Ugly people are ugly dogs? Ugly people? Never mind that
one almost worked out. Okay, Rich tomorrow here him live
every Saturday right here on KFI eleven am to two
pm every morning on KTLA TV, Instagram, at rich on
Tech website, rich on tech dot TV, and Rich you
(12:32):
want to listen to this last segment and you'll see
how rude and crude I am.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
You just don't think how horrible people are. You're way
too nice for this. All right, take care, Rich, We'll
catch you next week. I'll see you this weekend, or
I'll catch you this weekend, Rich tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
The housing market. I love to talk about housing a
lot and hope choppers have actually given up a lot
of them because the depressed market. Sales are stuck at
a thirty year low. So it's miserable except if you're
buying a house and all of a sudden you're enjoying
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discounts at the highest rate in years. Sixty two percent.
Now there's my there we go, right, Okay, let me
turn that off. My prescription is waiting for me at Kaiser.
About sixty two percent of buyers last year purchased a
home below the original price.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
By the way, it's for.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
A penicillin, and I'm going to tell you, I'm not
going to tell you why I need it.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
An average discount for.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
The home sold below their original price eight percent, I
mean eight percent doesn't seem like a lot, right, well
on a million dollar home, which is not unusual, especially
here in California. That's eighty thousand dollars. I mean, that'll
buy you a few cups of coffee at Starbucks. And
so what's happening now is that sellers are giving all
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kinds of concessions. The housing market is tilting back in
the buyer's favor. From twenty to twenty twenty to twenty
twenty two, man, you couldn't buy a house.
Speaker 6 (14:10):
You know, I mean the sellers people were bidding overbidding,
you know, they'd list the house and pay one hundred
thousand dollars more and people would be buying houses sit unseen.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
There were no houses. And why is that?
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Well, everybody that owned a house that was even considering
selling a house. Guy was able to refi at three percent,
and you're not going to give that up. Well, three
percent money is disappearing, our memory is it's fading. And
now we're back to a realistic about six percent, give
or take. So the housing market is tilting back in
the buyer's favor. And so now the situation has completely flipped.
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The housing market in the US in December had six
hundred thousand more sellers than buyers. And that's the biggest
gaps since twenty thirteen and would be buyers right our
sideline by high home prices elevated mortgage rates. So home
buying is fairly low in demand, except that there are
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a lot more sellers out there. So those who are
buying a house, well, you have a lot of negotiating power,
and so now it's kind of fair.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
It used to be ridiculous. Now it's fair.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
It's sort of right in line with where it should be.
And there were times when people couldn't sell their houses
at all. We're giving away houses and it went the
other way.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Not anymore.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
So if you're out buying a house, I mean, it's
still way expensive and you're not going to get three
percent money. But if you are in the market for
a house, let me tell you now is the time
to do it, because I don't know what the future
is going to bring. When I bought my house two
years ago, I paid a lot of money. I think
I paid over market. It turned out that I paid
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about market. Because here we are two years later, and
you would think it goes up five percent.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
A year is usually what you think real estate homes
go up.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Well, the prices are the same hasn't moved, so we'll
see what happened. Not that it matters to me, because
this is my house. I'm going to end up dying.
In a matter of fact, I do that normally on
the show. At least two three times a week.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
I die.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
But it's if I were to sell my house, I'm
going to get about what I paid for it now,
less commissions, less esco, that sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
So I'm going to basically take a.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Loss watching all the changes you made. Yeah, I know
I made a lot of change. Yeah, I don't know
if I'm ever going to get that money back because
I came in and remodeled. That's another reason why home
buyers are being reluctant.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
It used to be they would buy anything.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
And now they come into a house and realize, oh boy,
we're going to have to spend some money on rem modeling.
Or the inspection comes back and it's a lot more
money to bring it up to code or bring it
up to a livable standard than they thought. So after
inspection they bail out. So now you're seeing how now
you're seeing prices drop from crazy to about normal right
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now where buyers are actually negotiating and see We'll see
what happens over the next couple of years. Can't wait
to see. And I've been buying houses well, and not
buying houses as an investment vehicle, but I bought my
first house in my twenties. Can you imagine buying your
first house in your twenties? Who in God's name can
buy a house in their twenties today? It is impossible,
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but it was a lot of years ago I started practicing.
I also made a good living right out of law school.
Who makes a good living right out of law school?
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Nobody?
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Now if you have to be graduating top ten percent
from one of the ivs, yeah, you're gonna do just fine.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
My goal was to own a house by forty and
I bought a house at forty, So knock it on
that door.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Not twenty shoot, yeah, well I wasn't twenty. I think
I was twenty seven or twenty eight, but still in
my twenties. All right, As we finish our show, and
I've been talking about this.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
One a whole lot for fifty years.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Having a bachelor's degree or higher led to much better
employment prospects, greater pay, greater job security. Well that is flipped.
That has flipped and why. Well, the bottom line is
AI has a great deal to do with it, and
businesses just shrinking white collar workers, and the unemployment gap
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between workers with bachelor's degrees and those with occupational degrees
read two years degrees, plumbers, electricians, pipe fitters, and some
not even degreed with an AA that flipped last year.
Trade worker's slight edge and it is getting wider. And
that's the first time trade workers have a leg up
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since the Bureau of Labor Statistics even started tracking in
the nineteen ninety And it's all about today's labor market obviously,
and economics are saying, man, this is one of the
most vexing problems, especially for entry level applicants, and that
is exactly what's going on. My daughter finished her bachelor's
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degree in computer science, getting a trying to get an
entry level computer science job.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
They don't exist. AI has taken over.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
You just can't get a job, which is why she's
starting her master's degree. So she is going to in
a couple of years have a master's degree and be unemployable,
and then we don't know what.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
The hell she's going to do.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
And just to give you an idea, you get out
of college and you try to get a job.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
What do you think you're going to get paid? Okay,
not much.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
So let's say you decided you're not going to college
and you're not going to pay insane tuition. Let's say
you go and you learn how to be an elevator
repair person or installer. Average salary one hundred and three
thousand dollars a year. Aircraft mechanic eighty five thousand dollars
a year, with in southern California being a lot higher
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because they're much more in demand. Aircraft mechanic eighty five thousand,
electrical power power line installer ninety thousand, HVAC technician sixty
five thousand, not so much, dental hygienist ninety five thousand dollars.
And do you need a certificate? Usually you do, but
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it's a two year degree. Right Power Distribution and Dispatch
ninety four thousand. I mean, it goes on and on
with these occupational degrees or occupational experience and just the description.
And by the way, let me give you the national
demand for these. National demand for entry level computer work
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is about zero. National demand for the elevator person is
very high. Aircraft mechanic is growing, the power line installer, high,
HVAC technician steady, dental hygienus high is what the national
demand is.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
So now, why would you go to college?
Speaker 4 (21:33):
If I had kids today, which I do, I would
tell them what are you doing in school? What are
you doing? And school is so expensive now? But the
minute my kids were born, I started a college fund
from them. So if they want to go to college,
there's money there. But I'm telling them why why would
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you do it? You're going to end up with half
the money and fewer job prospects, as a matter of fact,
almost none in certain cases. Then if you go out
and learn how to do HVAC heating and air conditioning
or become an airline mechanic, does it take some time? Yeah,
you know, it's like going to college. You have to
do an apprenticeship in most cases, especially in construction work,
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but you get paid. College costs you money. You pay
to go to college, You get paid to even be
an apprentice. It's like the whole concept of which I've
never understood. During games, professional games, well my team won, No, No,
it's not your team. You pay to go to those games.
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Do you understand when you say my team. That means
you own the team. Just want to point that out.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Are you familiar with five guys? You like five guys Burgers?
I do? Yeah? Great.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Do you know the story behind that that? It was
so the father and you know the family, they put
money in for college for the boys, and when it
was tied for them to college, go to college, the
father basically said, you can use this for college, or
you can pitch me a business idea. And they pitched
the idea of five guys and it's huge. Oh yeah,
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it's north instead of college. Good for them.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
I mean they could have gone to college and still
be working at thirty eight thousand dollars a year.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Okay, guys, we're done. Coming up, it's Gary and Shannon.
We're again back tomorrow starting with Amy and Will wake up,
Call Neil and I jump aboard at six, and then
Cono and An of course are always here because well
they went to college and are starving working here at
iHeart good.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
Welcome to the show. This is KFI AM sixty.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
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