July 7, 2026 • 25 mins
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KTLA & KFI tech reporter Rich DeMuro joins the show for ‘Tech Tuesday.’ Today, Rich talks about the Supreme Court to let Texas app age verification law take effect, Anthropic saying it’s getting a better look inside AI, and iPhone having a built-in earthquake alert. To beat the heat, the wealthy are building snow rooms. Moving back home used to be a sign of failure… now it show financial savvy.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty KFI AM six forty Handle here on a
Tuesday morning, July seventh. Some of the big stories we
are looking at, Oh, SpaceX is about to join the
Nasdaq one hundred and gives new investors new exposure and
(00:26):
it's going to trigger more billions of dollars if you
can imagine that. And the President is in Turkey for
the NATO summit and a lot of controversy there. We
talked about this earlier on this morning. Okay, it is
time for Tech Tuesday with Rich Tomorrow, kfi's tech Guy.
He is live every Saturday right here on KFI eleven
(00:48):
am to two pm. He follows me handle on the
law Instagram at Rich on Tech, Rich on tech dot
tv is the website. Good morning Rich, Good morning Bill. Okay,
let's start big case. Supreme Court and Texas had a
law that age verification had to be in place before
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children kids, even apps would be able to be downloaded
much less purchases, and the Supreme Court let that happen
upheld Texas. How big a deal is this.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
It's a big deal because there's a lot of other
states that might do something similar, and it's also a
nightmare for the tech companies because to have a patchwork
of states all having different requirements for kids is not
something they want. It's something parents may want, for sure.
But the law as it stands requires stores like you know,
(01:44):
the App Store and Google Play to verify users aids,
So if they're under eighteen, parental consent is required before
downloading apps or making in app purchases. And you might say,
hold on, doesn't the App Store already do this? Not necessarily,
so parents may have approvals turned on on their personal device,
you know, their devices for their kids, but it's not
something that Apple or Google requires at this point. And
(02:08):
Apple and Google of course are opposing the law. They
say it makes everyone, including adults, verify their age, you know,
and that in turn is privacy issues, friction all this stuff.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Now. Quick question and I'm guessing here and you comment
on this, is that until AI came into being, it's
fairly easy just to confirm that you're over the age
of eighteen. You basically say yeah, I'm over eighteen. With AI,
it'd be much easier to verify because there's so much
out there on social media that AI can figure out
(02:44):
exactly how old you are based on birth certificates that
are public, that are public documents, and other means social media,
car ownership, et cetera. Because there are a few For example,
eighteen year olds don't own one hundreds thousand dollars cars.
Am I right on that?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Well, this depends how big of an influencer they are
at this point. But yes, some of them probably do.
But I mean, yes, I think you're right about that
because if you look at systems like Claude and open
Ai chat EBT, they're already doing this in the background.
When kids start to when they open accounts and they
lie about their age and they start to chat, these
systems will take proactive measures to say, hey, we actually
(03:27):
think you're a kid. Now you have to verify you
are who you say you are. Google has done something similar,
but a lot of that is more for legal reasons
and not necessarily just for like app reasons. And so
I understand why you might not want this for everyone
because basically more people may be forced to prove who
they are online using an ID, using some sort of verification,
(03:49):
using a selfie that you know they may not want
to do, right, And so it gets into this whole
idea of are we free online? Are we free to
do what we want online? Can we remain private online?
So there are two sides this because it involves children,
Because it involves youth, I think more people would say, yeah,
that's probably fine. But you know, what if you're seventeen
or what if you just turned eighteen? You want to
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protect your privacy and it's still asking you to prove
you are over eighteen. Now you get to give up
I D. So you know, there are two sides to this,
but we'll see how it shakes out. Because there's probably
a lot of money behind Apple and Google opposing this law.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Is an ida out there anyway, if I were to
ask claude or chat GPT, how old am I when
to come right back and say, here's your age based
on driver's license that are on file, based on what
I order, based on what can I afford to pay.
(04:44):
Although that is you're right in terms of influencers, but
enough documents are out there to nail it period. Nail it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
I mean you can go to any people search site
and find that information. I don't. I mean if you
ask chat GBT, and I think a lot of people
have done this. You know, give me my best guess
my age. Unless you've specifically told it your date of birth,
it will give you an estimation for sure, and does it. No,
I don't think it can tap into you know, a
driver's license database or anything like that or something the
(05:12):
airlines have, but you know it can make approximations that
they're usually pretty good. So I think, yes, this information
is out there. It's again it's a matter to me.
I think of like how much information. Like when I
had to sign up for the IRS website. I went
through this whole thing where I had to verify every
single piece of identification I had in my life over
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the internet, and it was kind of scary because here
you are giving your social giving your driver's license, taking
a video selfie, and you know all that information is
going not only to the government but also a third
party identification verification company. And I think that's where it
gets a little kind of like, hold on, how is
this information being used? Where is it going? Who actually
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gets to be in charge of this? I think those
are all very valid questions, you know where.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
I mean, we're gonna take a break in a minute.
As a matter of fact, right now and during the break,
I'm going to ask chat GPT, how old you think
I am. I just went on, Yeah, I just went
on one of those machines at the gym where you
sit barefoot and you hang onto this thing and it
gives you all kinds of information and then it also
(06:21):
gives you approximate age we think you are, and it
said I'm six months younger than I actually am.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Hey, that's good.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
That was excellent. I mean, you know, I wanted to
be younger than that. You know, I don't spoke, I
don't drink, I weigh a normal weight. I've got some
mental issues, but that machine doesn't figure that out. So anyway,
I'm gonna go yeah, pretty well. We were talking about
the age verification issue where the Supreme Court is letting
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Texas apply its law, that is, forcing age verification and
a new age verification law to take effect. And then
I had said, I had asked Rich with AI out there,
it'll take two seconds for maybe, of course quicker to
(07:14):
verify someone's age. So it used to be yeah, I'm
over eighteen, and okay, all you have to do is say, yeah,
I'm over eighteen. But now with going on for example,
an app, the platform can instantly see how old you
really are. So what we did is I went on
chat GPT to find out what people how old people
(07:38):
think I am. Now. When I said how old do
you think I handle is? They knew exactly the day
I was born. They knew by birthday, they knew by age.
So I had to re ask that question, how is
my age perceived? And it was answered. Public perception varies,
but many people here Bill Handle the radio without knowing
(08:01):
his age, often guess he's in his late fifties to
mid sixties. His voice is energetic, yeah it is, he
speaks quickly. Really you damn right, I do. He maintains
a demanding work schedule and can make him seem younger
than his chronological age. On the other hand, people who
have seen him on TV, in videos, or public events
(08:22):
are more likely to estimate his age to be in
his late nineties.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Now it didn't say that.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Oh okay, oh sorry, IM has read that late sixties
to early seventies now my age, and you can look
it up anywhere. I'm actually seventy four, and a common
perception may be that he seems about sixty to sixty
eight based on on air persona. And so if you
look at what I look like, I look well closer
(08:53):
to my actual age. So if you listen to Man'm
perceived to be younger, which is kind of neat if
you me, I'm perceived to be decades older. And so,
as I said, I'm seventy four. And you know what
people say. I get this all the time. Oh you
know what, age is actually a number. It's only a number. Yeah,
(09:15):
the number is seventy four. That's the number. Although sometimes
I feel like I'm seventy three, so I feel much younger. Okay,
with that being said, rich, how old are you?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
By the way, Oh gosh, I don't go try to
find it. It doesn't it's all I don't. I don't
publicly say it because I don't want to. Yeah, I
don't want to upset people.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Why would you.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I don't think. I don't think. I don't think chat
ChiPT has it well, because you know, in Hollywood your age,
like you know, people want young people, and when you
say you're older, it's like, oh, we're not interested in
you anymore. I mean, it's not a problem in all
of Hollywood, maybe not for you, but on TV.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
I don't think radio. Yeah, I don't think radio. I
don't think you would have a problem. Actually, I don't know.
Now there's a I mean, you're right, there's a huge
problem with a when you do porno films. I'll get that. Actually,
if you think about it, the older someone is doing
porno films, the more interesting the film is. I think
there's a huge market for that. If I had to guess,
So let me ask, let me do this, I'm going
(10:13):
to guess and tell me if I'm anywhere near right.
I'm guessing you are in your mid forties, that is correct, okay,
And I have never seen and by the way, I
have never seen what you look like.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
No, there's no way to see it.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
What do you mean there's no way to see it?
You're on TV. You're on TTLA every day. Wow.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Okay, Well, then how have you not seen me?
Speaker 1 (10:37):
I have not seen you because I just the other
thing I watch on TV, you bill, Okay, but you
are more into the video stuff. My video stuff is
documentary TVs. That's all I really watch. And I don't
watch local news. I watch national news. So I watch
(10:58):
one of the networks, you know, I Al Jazeera, BBC,
and then documentaries other than Ted Lasso al Jazera.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
That's what you're watching.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
I watch al JAZERI. Yeah, okay, yeah because I I
because I like the idea of newscasters, uh saying you
should die and uh that's kind of fun. Yeah, it's
a whole little all the cable channels. But yeah, it's
a whole it's a whole lot of psychological thing. Uh okay,
getting back to a topic that we should talk about,
(11:31):
and that is uh June. June is a journal that
calls you what is that about?
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I thought this was pretty cool. I've been testing this
journaling app. It's called talk June dot com if you
want to check it out. But you know the problem
with journaling is that it takes a long time, and
nobody wants to sit there and you know, write out
a big page at the end of the day when
you've had a long day and you don't even know
what to talk about some of the times. So this
journal kind of turns that on its side. It calls
(12:00):
you every night at a schedule time. It could be
seven pm, eight pm, nine, ten eleven, whatever, and you
pick up your phone and it says, hey, tell me
about your day and it's not just generic. It remembers
everything you've ever told it, and so it will ask
you follow up questions, whether that's a day later or
a week or a month later. Hey, I'm going to
celebrate my birthday with my friends on Friday night. Cool,
(12:22):
I'll ask you how it is, you know, in a
couple of days, how are you feeling about that, how
you feeling about getting older?
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Whatever?
Speaker 2 (12:28):
And so it's kind of cool. I've been testing it,
and basically it writes the pages for you. But I
think the real interesting twist here is that because it
calls you, it kind of removes that big obstacle, which is,
you know, figuring out what to write and what to say.
You're just talking to someone like you with a friend.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Yeah, but why, And that's the question. Maybe it's just
me you do something. And I've never understood journal writing.
I really never have. And I assume it's still a
big thing. If not journal writing, certainly the actually the
just the joy of journal writing to people, which of
course I don't have. So you know, I guess you've
(13:06):
got platforms and programs are gonna do everything for you.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yeah, And I think I think the journaling thing is
a lot of mental health. You know, professionals recommend it.
I think it's people find it relaxing. I mean, I
you know, I don't I get it. I don't like
it's like where does this go? But I think for
something like this, it's actually kind of interesting because you're
talking out you know, some of the things. Maybe not
your issues, I mean could be, but you know, when
you're happy, when you're sad, what you're doing, and maybe
(13:32):
you want to leave this to your kids. Maybe you don't.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
I like those programs, the AI programs that help you
with mental health, for example, asking chat shept or Claude.
You know, I'm really depressed and I'm considering killing myself. Well,
here are the ways you can do it. Do you
want to be painful or not? Do you want to
make a big splash? Do you want people to get upset?
(13:58):
Those are always great things in the metal world.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
All right, I'm surprised you're not banned from CHATCHYVT yet
with those questions.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Yeah. No, I spend a lot of time talking about
people dying because it just for some reason, just you,
I just like it. Okay, Rich heard every Saturday right
here at eleven am to two pm on KFI kt LA.
Every day is on TV his instagram at rich on
(14:26):
Tech and then that website where you get all this
tremendous information rich on Tech dot TV. Rich You'll catch
you this weekend and then next Sunday or next Wednesday.
Have a good win. That was fine. That was kind
of an interesting conversation. He wouldn't let go of what
his age was.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Do you know?
Speaker 1 (14:46):
I mean, come on, I mean we all do amy.
How old are you?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
None of your business?
Speaker 1 (14:51):
See there you go? And how old are you? Thirty nine?
If you're thirty nine, I'm Rex the Wonder Horse. Okay,
pretty good you are? Yeah? Okay, fair enough? And you know,
(15:12):
uh will do you know wait makes you look older? No,
it's the opposite. Yeah I know. No, actually not Okay,
we're done. It's coming up a story. Oh and then cono, cono,
How old are you?
Speaker 2 (15:28):
What?
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Early thirties? What do you think I would get? Well,
I see you every day. Yeah, I would guess early thirties.
I appreciate that, Bill. How old are you thirty eight?
Are you really? See? You don't look thirty eight? You
don't one. You're younger than me. Yeah, that's why Anne
(15:49):
Will how old are you? Thirty nine?
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Go stop it, stop it all right. So a story
I like to do is how the rich are rich
and we're not, and I mean, you know, pretty rich. Now,
if someone has a for example, a gym at home
(16:11):
or has a separate office, do let's make a gym
a gym at home, you consider that person wealthy. If
there's a home gym, amy, is that a wealthy person
to you? No? Oh okay, uh cono wealthy? Well someone
has a house. If someone has an apartment, that's a
wealthy person to you. Yeah. Even a brand new tent
(16:33):
from RII is someone who's got money. I understand that.
But it depends on the gym. Yes, really Rock Johnson's
gym or okay, okay, that's true. No, that's true. And
Jim at home rich wealthy? Yeah, like, it depends on
what the gym is. Right. We even need a small
gym because you have a room treadmill. No, well that's
(16:56):
not a gym, that's a treadmill. All right, talk about
a gym, Jim. Okay. So the point is, how about this, Okay,
when I tell you, how about someone who has let's say,
(17:16):
let's say a room where it snows. Snowrooms, what is
that about. That's the new thing. Snowrooms. They have those
in Dubai. I mean, well, I can understand that because
they have a lot of money. But you go into
your house and there's a separate room, and there is
(17:37):
your room which is kept at basically below zero, and
snowfall comes and that's the middle of this heat wave.
That's rich, that's rich. My favorite snow room is a
board a ship. We're talking about a private boat. Shammad
(18:00):
al ben Salman, who is the titular head of Saudi Arabia.
He has a boat that is I think two hundred
feet long, and he has a snowroom on his boat.
That's rich. And that's the new thing. Even to the
(18:20):
point where you've got these massive new spec homes that
are being built all over, particularly here in southern California,
to go for tens of million dollars, the builders are
building snow rooms, climate controlled snowrooms. There's one Russian guy
who loved He grew up in this little Russian town
(18:41):
where there was obviously a lot of snow is northern Russia.
And what he did is in his snowroom, he put
in the trees. He put in the logs to make
it look like a typical day in his village in
the middle of the summer, and you walk in there,
and you're walking into his village and there's a gentle
(19:03):
snow coming down. You can actually make a hurricane strength
if you want. But no, that is a big deal.
That is a really among the super wealthy. That's what's
going on. I love doing these stories about when you have,
you know, more money than smarts, but not really because
(19:23):
billionaires are not made because they're not smart. It's just
you know what the wealthy do. These these ships of
two hundred feet long that have helicopter paths with helicopters
or submarine submersibles on the ship. I mean, it's pretty impressive.
Never heard of that snow rooms. Okay, go figure One
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of the things I like to do is research and
maybe analyze and figure out what's happening to us in
our changing world, because the world is changing faster than
it ever has. One of the big changes is how
we perceive young people living at home. Last year, forty
(20:09):
nine percent of adults under the age of thirty lived
with a parent. That's up twelve percent since twenty nineteen.
There are some reasons for it. High living costs. National
medium home prices about four hundred thousand dollars here in
southern California. A million dollars doesn't buy you much of
a home. And how does someone in their twenties, even
the thirties have a twenty percent down payment and then
(20:31):
have a mortgage of eight hundred thousand dollars. So we
got record rents we have, the income hasn't come near
the inflation rate, and a student debt. I mean, it's
all crazy. So living at home for young people was
once considered you were a failure. Today it's actually considered
(20:55):
your financially stable, and not only stable, you're savvy. So
let me here's what happened to me. I was living
with a woman in my late twenties early thirties, and
we broke up, and here I was I'll never forget
at the age of thirty six, and I moved back
(21:18):
home for a year, and I was introduced to people
because I was single, and I had friends who decided, okay,
it's time for introduce Bill to someone. And I would
be introduced and I would say, hi, you know, we
introduced my name is Bill, Okay, what do you do? Well?
I'm a pretty successful attorney and I live at home
(21:40):
with my mom and dad. Now let me tell you
my sex life that year was pretty sparse. No one
was very impressed. Today, even in my thirties, if I
lived with my parents, I mean I have to move
into the cemetery, granted, But in my thirties, I would
not be considered a failure, a weirdo. Where Why? Because
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you save your money? How's this? I'm in my thirties,
let's say thirty mid thirties, and I'm saving up for
a house, which if I lived at home, I would
never be able to afford, because the only people that
really can afford houses today are people who have owned
houses for long periods of time and have sold their homes.
(22:31):
The only way I could have ever afforded the Persian
Palace was the way that I did bought a home.
First home, in my late twenties, I had rented it,
so that's why I had to move back home in
my mid thirties, and I sold it. Then I bought
another home and sold it and sold it and incrementally
(22:52):
moved up. There is no chance today I could ever
afford that house that I had just non existent. How
many people in their early thirties it took out massive
student loans are still paying them off. So let's say
(23:13):
you're saving money, and that's the reason you give for
living at home. Okay, it's accepted now. It is now,
It's always been accepted among minorities. There becomes multi generational
if you look at, for example, the Chinese Asian families. Yeah,
people live at home, kids live at home. And my mom,
(23:36):
who grew up and was raised in Brazil, she lived
at home with her mother until she got married, because
that's just what they did. And if you got married
in your thirties, just stay at home till the thirties.
That's the culture. See, we live in a culture of independence.
You're eight ten years old, out you go, because we
are probably, if not the certainly one of the most
(23:59):
independent societies. You're on your own. You got to pull
all yourself up, pull yourself by the bootstraps, and get moving. Well,
it's too hard to get moving now when you're eighteen,
twenty years old, twenty five years old, it's as hard
as nails. Okay, we're done. Just wanting to make you
feel better. If you're in your thirties and don't own
a home and you're living back home with your parents,
(24:21):
you're actually considered pretty savvy or the stigma of you
living at home is not nearly what it used to be.
So if you're introduced to me, for example, and we
start talking and you mentioned you live at home, Okay, loser,
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We're done, Darien, Shannon up next. We'll be back again tomorrow.
Will and Amy start with wake up Call, and of
course also kno is here, and then Neil and I
cub aboard and we do this all over again, and
An of course is always here too. Okay, that's it, guys,
(25:06):
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Tuesday morning, July seventh. Some of the big stories we
are looking at, Oh, SpaceX is about to join the
Nasdaq one hundred and gives new investors new exposure and
(00:26):
it's going to trigger more billions of dollars if you
can imagine that. And the President is in Turkey for
the NATO summit and a lot of controversy there. We
talked about this earlier on this morning. Okay, it is
time for Tech Tuesday with Rich Tomorrow, kfi's tech Guy.
He is live every Saturday right here on KFI eleven
(00:48):
am to two pm. He follows me handle on the
law Instagram at Rich on Tech, Rich on tech dot
tv is the website. Good morning Rich, Good morning Bill. Okay,
let's start big case. Supreme Court and Texas had a
law that age verification had to be in place before
(01:11):
children kids, even apps would be able to be downloaded
much less purchases, and the Supreme Court let that happen
upheld Texas. How big a deal is this.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
It's a big deal because there's a lot of other
states that might do something similar, and it's also a
nightmare for the tech companies because to have a patchwork
of states all having different requirements for kids is not
something they want. It's something parents may want, for sure.
But the law as it stands requires stores like you know,
(01:44):
the App Store and Google Play to verify users aids,
So if they're under eighteen, parental consent is required before
downloading apps or making in app purchases. And you might say,
hold on, doesn't the App Store already do this? Not necessarily,
so parents may have approvals turned on on their personal device,
you know, their devices for their kids, but it's not
something that Apple or Google requires at this point. And
(02:08):
Apple and Google of course are opposing the law. They
say it makes everyone, including adults, verify their age, you know,
and that in turn is privacy issues, friction all this stuff.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Now. Quick question and I'm guessing here and you comment
on this, is that until AI came into being, it's
fairly easy just to confirm that you're over the age
of eighteen. You basically say yeah, I'm over eighteen. With AI,
it'd be much easier to verify because there's so much
out there on social media that AI can figure out
(02:44):
exactly how old you are based on birth certificates that
are public, that are public documents, and other means social media,
car ownership, et cetera. Because there are a few For example,
eighteen year olds don't own one hundreds thousand dollars cars.
Am I right on that?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Well, this depends how big of an influencer they are
at this point. But yes, some of them probably do.
But I mean, yes, I think you're right about that
because if you look at systems like Claude and open
Ai chat EBT, they're already doing this in the background.
When kids start to when they open accounts and they
lie about their age and they start to chat, these
systems will take proactive measures to say, hey, we actually
(03:27):
think you're a kid. Now you have to verify you
are who you say you are. Google has done something similar,
but a lot of that is more for legal reasons
and not necessarily just for like app reasons. And so
I understand why you might not want this for everyone
because basically more people may be forced to prove who
they are online using an ID, using some sort of verification,
(03:49):
using a selfie that you know they may not want
to do, right, And so it gets into this whole
idea of are we free online? Are we free to
do what we want online? Can we remain private online?
So there are two sides this because it involves children,
Because it involves youth, I think more people would say, yeah,
that's probably fine. But you know, what if you're seventeen
or what if you just turned eighteen? You want to
(04:10):
protect your privacy and it's still asking you to prove
you are over eighteen. Now you get to give up
I D. So you know, there are two sides to this,
but we'll see how it shakes out. Because there's probably
a lot of money behind Apple and Google opposing this law.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Is an ida out there anyway, if I were to
ask claude or chat GPT, how old am I when
to come right back and say, here's your age based
on driver's license that are on file, based on what
I order, based on what can I afford to pay.
(04:44):
Although that is you're right in terms of influencers, but
enough documents are out there to nail it period. Nail it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
I mean you can go to any people search site
and find that information. I don't. I mean if you
ask chat GBT, and I think a lot of people
have done this. You know, give me my best guess
my age. Unless you've specifically told it your date of birth,
it will give you an estimation for sure, and does it. No,
I don't think it can tap into you know, a
driver's license database or anything like that or something the
(05:12):
airlines have, but you know it can make approximations that
they're usually pretty good. So I think, yes, this information
is out there. It's again it's a matter to me.
I think of like how much information. Like when I
had to sign up for the IRS website. I went
through this whole thing where I had to verify every
single piece of identification I had in my life over
(05:33):
the internet, and it was kind of scary because here
you are giving your social giving your driver's license, taking
a video selfie, and you know all that information is
going not only to the government but also a third
party identification verification company. And I think that's where it
gets a little kind of like, hold on, how is
this information being used? Where is it going? Who actually
(05:55):
gets to be in charge of this? I think those
are all very valid questions, you know where.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
I mean, we're gonna take a break in a minute.
As a matter of fact, right now and during the break,
I'm going to ask chat GPT, how old you think
I am. I just went on, Yeah, I just went
on one of those machines at the gym where you
sit barefoot and you hang onto this thing and it
gives you all kinds of information and then it also
(06:21):
gives you approximate age we think you are, and it
said I'm six months younger than I actually am.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Hey, that's good.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
That was excellent. I mean, you know, I wanted to
be younger than that. You know, I don't spoke, I
don't drink, I weigh a normal weight. I've got some
mental issues, but that machine doesn't figure that out. So anyway,
I'm gonna go yeah, pretty well. We were talking about
the age verification issue where the Supreme Court is letting
(06:52):
Texas apply its law, that is, forcing age verification and
a new age verification law to take effect. And then
I had said, I had asked Rich with AI out there,
it'll take two seconds for maybe, of course quicker to
(07:14):
verify someone's age. So it used to be yeah, I'm
over eighteen, and okay, all you have to do is say, yeah,
I'm over eighteen. But now with going on for example,
an app, the platform can instantly see how old you
really are. So what we did is I went on
chat GPT to find out what people how old people
(07:38):
think I am. Now. When I said how old do
you think I handle is? They knew exactly the day
I was born. They knew by birthday, they knew by age.
So I had to re ask that question, how is
my age perceived? And it was answered. Public perception varies,
but many people here Bill Handle the radio without knowing
(08:01):
his age, often guess he's in his late fifties to
mid sixties. His voice is energetic, yeah it is, he
speaks quickly. Really you damn right, I do. He maintains
a demanding work schedule and can make him seem younger
than his chronological age. On the other hand, people who
have seen him on TV, in videos, or public events
(08:22):
are more likely to estimate his age to be in
his late nineties.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Now it didn't say that.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Oh okay, oh sorry, IM has read that late sixties
to early seventies now my age, and you can look
it up anywhere. I'm actually seventy four, and a common
perception may be that he seems about sixty to sixty
eight based on on air persona. And so if you
look at what I look like, I look well closer
(08:53):
to my actual age. So if you listen to Man'm
perceived to be younger, which is kind of neat if
you me, I'm perceived to be decades older. And so,
as I said, I'm seventy four. And you know what
people say. I get this all the time. Oh you
know what, age is actually a number. It's only a number. Yeah,
(09:15):
the number is seventy four. That's the number. Although sometimes
I feel like I'm seventy three, so I feel much younger. Okay,
with that being said, rich, how old are you?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
By the way, Oh gosh, I don't go try to
find it. It doesn't it's all I don't. I don't
publicly say it because I don't want to. Yeah, I
don't want to upset people.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Why would you.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I don't think. I don't think. I don't think chat
ChiPT has it well, because you know, in Hollywood your age,
like you know, people want young people, and when you
say you're older, it's like, oh, we're not interested in
you anymore. I mean, it's not a problem in all
of Hollywood, maybe not for you, but on TV.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
I don't think radio. Yeah, I don't think radio. I
don't think you would have a problem. Actually, I don't know.
Now there's a I mean, you're right, there's a huge
problem with a when you do porno films. I'll get that. Actually,
if you think about it, the older someone is doing
porno films, the more interesting the film is. I think
there's a huge market for that. If I had to guess,
So let me ask, let me do this, I'm going
(10:13):
to guess and tell me if I'm anywhere near right.
I'm guessing you are in your mid forties, that is correct, okay,
And I have never seen and by the way, I
have never seen what you look like.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
No, there's no way to see it.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
What do you mean there's no way to see it?
You're on TV. You're on TTLA every day. Wow.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Okay, Well, then how have you not seen me?
Speaker 1 (10:37):
I have not seen you because I just the other
thing I watch on TV, you bill, Okay, but you
are more into the video stuff. My video stuff is
documentary TVs. That's all I really watch. And I don't
watch local news. I watch national news. So I watch
(10:58):
one of the networks, you know, I Al Jazeera, BBC,
and then documentaries other than Ted Lasso al Jazera.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
That's what you're watching.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
I watch al JAZERI. Yeah, okay, yeah because I I
because I like the idea of newscasters, uh saying you
should die and uh that's kind of fun. Yeah, it's
a whole little all the cable channels. But yeah, it's
a whole it's a whole lot of psychological thing. Uh okay,
getting back to a topic that we should talk about,
(11:31):
and that is uh June. June is a journal that
calls you what is that about?
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I thought this was pretty cool. I've been testing this
journaling app. It's called talk June dot com if you
want to check it out. But you know the problem
with journaling is that it takes a long time, and
nobody wants to sit there and you know, write out
a big page at the end of the day when
you've had a long day and you don't even know
what to talk about some of the times. So this
journal kind of turns that on its side. It calls
(12:00):
you every night at a schedule time. It could be
seven pm, eight pm, nine, ten eleven, whatever, and you
pick up your phone and it says, hey, tell me
about your day and it's not just generic. It remembers
everything you've ever told it, and so it will ask
you follow up questions, whether that's a day later or
a week or a month later. Hey, I'm going to
celebrate my birthday with my friends on Friday night. Cool,
(12:22):
I'll ask you how it is, you know, in a
couple of days, how are you feeling about that, how
you feeling about getting older?
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Whatever?
Speaker 2 (12:28):
And so it's kind of cool. I've been testing it,
and basically it writes the pages for you. But I
think the real interesting twist here is that because it
calls you, it kind of removes that big obstacle, which is,
you know, figuring out what to write and what to say.
You're just talking to someone like you with a friend.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Yeah, but why, And that's the question. Maybe it's just
me you do something. And I've never understood journal writing.
I really never have. And I assume it's still a
big thing. If not journal writing, certainly the actually the
just the joy of journal writing to people, which of
course I don't have. So you know, I guess you've
(13:06):
got platforms and programs are gonna do everything for you.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yeah, And I think I think the journaling thing is
a lot of mental health. You know, professionals recommend it.
I think it's people find it relaxing. I mean, I
you know, I don't I get it. I don't like
it's like where does this go? But I think for
something like this, it's actually kind of interesting because you're
talking out you know, some of the things. Maybe not
your issues, I mean could be, but you know, when
you're happy, when you're sad, what you're doing, and maybe
(13:32):
you want to leave this to your kids. Maybe you don't.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
I like those programs, the AI programs that help you
with mental health, for example, asking chat shept or Claude.
You know, I'm really depressed and I'm considering killing myself. Well,
here are the ways you can do it. Do you
want to be painful or not? Do you want to
make a big splash? Do you want people to get upset?
(13:58):
Those are always great things in the metal world.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
All right, I'm surprised you're not banned from CHATCHYVT yet
with those questions.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Yeah. No, I spend a lot of time talking about
people dying because it just for some reason, just you,
I just like it. Okay, Rich heard every Saturday right
here at eleven am to two pm on KFI kt LA.
Every day is on TV his instagram at rich on
(14:26):
Tech and then that website where you get all this
tremendous information rich on Tech dot TV. Rich You'll catch
you this weekend and then next Sunday or next Wednesday.
Have a good win. That was fine. That was kind
of an interesting conversation. He wouldn't let go of what
his age was.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Do you know?
Speaker 1 (14:46):
I mean, come on, I mean we all do amy.
How old are you?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
None of your business?
Speaker 1 (14:51):
See there you go? And how old are you? Thirty nine?
If you're thirty nine, I'm Rex the Wonder Horse. Okay,
pretty good you are? Yeah? Okay, fair enough? And you know,
(15:12):
uh will do you know wait makes you look older? No,
it's the opposite. Yeah I know. No, actually not Okay,
we're done. It's coming up a story. Oh and then cono, cono,
How old are you?
Speaker 2 (15:28):
What?
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Early thirties? What do you think I would get? Well,
I see you every day. Yeah, I would guess early thirties.
I appreciate that, Bill. How old are you thirty eight?
Are you really? See? You don't look thirty eight? You
don't one. You're younger than me. Yeah, that's why Anne
(15:49):
Will how old are you? Thirty nine?
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Go stop it, stop it all right. So a story
I like to do is how the rich are rich
and we're not, and I mean, you know, pretty rich. Now,
if someone has a for example, a gym at home
(16:11):
or has a separate office, do let's make a gym
a gym at home, you consider that person wealthy. If
there's a home gym, amy, is that a wealthy person
to you? No? Oh okay, uh cono wealthy? Well someone
has a house. If someone has an apartment, that's a
wealthy person to you. Yeah. Even a brand new tent
(16:33):
from RII is someone who's got money. I understand that.
But it depends on the gym. Yes, really Rock Johnson's
gym or okay, okay, that's true. No, that's true. And
Jim at home rich wealthy? Yeah, like, it depends on
what the gym is. Right. We even need a small
gym because you have a room treadmill. No, well that's
(16:56):
not a gym, that's a treadmill. All right, talk about
a gym, Jim. Okay. So the point is, how about this, Okay,
when I tell you, how about someone who has let's say,
(17:16):
let's say a room where it snows. Snowrooms, what is
that about. That's the new thing. Snowrooms. They have those
in Dubai. I mean, well, I can understand that because
they have a lot of money. But you go into
your house and there's a separate room, and there is
(17:37):
your room which is kept at basically below zero, and
snowfall comes and that's the middle of this heat wave.
That's rich, that's rich. My favorite snow room is a
board a ship. We're talking about a private boat. Shammad
(18:00):
al ben Salman, who is the titular head of Saudi Arabia.
He has a boat that is I think two hundred
feet long, and he has a snowroom on his boat.
That's rich. And that's the new thing. Even to the
(18:20):
point where you've got these massive new spec homes that
are being built all over, particularly here in southern California,
to go for tens of million dollars, the builders are
building snow rooms, climate controlled snowrooms. There's one Russian guy
who loved He grew up in this little Russian town
(18:41):
where there was obviously a lot of snow is northern Russia.
And what he did is in his snowroom, he put
in the trees. He put in the logs to make
it look like a typical day in his village in
the middle of the summer, and you walk in there,
and you're walking into his village and there's a gentle
(19:03):
snow coming down. You can actually make a hurricane strength
if you want. But no, that is a big deal.
That is a really among the super wealthy. That's what's
going on. I love doing these stories about when you have,
you know, more money than smarts, but not really because
(19:23):
billionaires are not made because they're not smart. It's just
you know what the wealthy do. These these ships of
two hundred feet long that have helicopter paths with helicopters
or submarine submersibles on the ship. I mean, it's pretty impressive.
Never heard of that snow rooms. Okay, go figure One
(19:47):
of the things I like to do is research and
maybe analyze and figure out what's happening to us in
our changing world, because the world is changing faster than
it ever has. One of the big changes is how
we perceive young people living at home. Last year, forty
(20:09):
nine percent of adults under the age of thirty lived
with a parent. That's up twelve percent since twenty nineteen.
There are some reasons for it. High living costs. National
medium home prices about four hundred thousand dollars here in
southern California. A million dollars doesn't buy you much of
a home. And how does someone in their twenties, even
the thirties have a twenty percent down payment and then
(20:31):
have a mortgage of eight hundred thousand dollars. So we
got record rents we have, the income hasn't come near
the inflation rate, and a student debt. I mean, it's
all crazy. So living at home for young people was
once considered you were a failure. Today it's actually considered
(20:55):
your financially stable, and not only stable, you're savvy. So
let me here's what happened to me. I was living
with a woman in my late twenties early thirties, and
we broke up, and here I was I'll never forget
at the age of thirty six, and I moved back
(21:18):
home for a year, and I was introduced to people
because I was single, and I had friends who decided, okay,
it's time for introduce Bill to someone. And I would
be introduced and I would say, hi, you know, we
introduced my name is Bill, Okay, what do you do? Well?
I'm a pretty successful attorney and I live at home
(21:40):
with my mom and dad. Now let me tell you
my sex life that year was pretty sparse. No one
was very impressed. Today, even in my thirties, if I
lived with my parents, I mean I have to move
into the cemetery, granted, But in my thirties, I would
not be considered a failure, a weirdo. Where Why? Because
(22:07):
you save your money? How's this? I'm in my thirties,
let's say thirty mid thirties, and I'm saving up for
a house, which if I lived at home, I would
never be able to afford, because the only people that
really can afford houses today are people who have owned
houses for long periods of time and have sold their homes.
(22:31):
The only way I could have ever afforded the Persian
Palace was the way that I did bought a home.
First home, in my late twenties, I had rented it,
so that's why I had to move back home in
my mid thirties, and I sold it. Then I bought
another home and sold it and sold it and incrementally
(22:52):
moved up. There is no chance today I could ever
afford that house that I had just non existent. How
many people in their early thirties it took out massive
student loans are still paying them off. So let's say
(23:13):
you're saving money, and that's the reason you give for
living at home. Okay, it's accepted now. It is now,
It's always been accepted among minorities. There becomes multi generational
if you look at, for example, the Chinese Asian families. Yeah,
people live at home, kids live at home. And my mom,
(23:36):
who grew up and was raised in Brazil, she lived
at home with her mother until she got married, because
that's just what they did. And if you got married
in your thirties, just stay at home till the thirties.
That's the culture. See, we live in a culture of independence.
You're eight ten years old, out you go, because we
are probably, if not the certainly one of the most
(23:59):
independent societies. You're on your own. You got to pull
all yourself up, pull yourself by the bootstraps, and get moving. Well,
it's too hard to get moving now when you're eighteen,
twenty years old, twenty five years old, it's as hard
as nails. Okay, we're done. Just wanting to make you
feel better. If you're in your thirties and don't own
a home and you're living back home with your parents,
(24:21):
you're actually considered pretty savvy or the stigma of you
living at home is not nearly what it used to be.
So if you're introduced to me, for example, and we
start talking and you mentioned you live at home, Okay, loser,
(24:44):
We're done, Darien, Shannon up next. We'll be back again tomorrow.
Will and Amy start with wake up Call, and of
course also kno is here, and then Neil and I
cub aboard and we do this all over again, and
An of course is always here too. Okay, that's it, guys,
(25:06):
See you tomorrow, same place, same station, same time, KFI
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