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Hi am six forty Bill Handle here on a momentous Monday,
March second, and we got so much to cover. We're
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It's gonna be fun. Something you've never heard on this
show in all the years I've been doing this program. Okay, now,
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the attack on Iran over the weekend. I can't even
scratch the surface as to the layers of the attack.
There are so many, as I said, moving pieces, and
they're trying to unload the information on CNN and Fox
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and BBCs covering it. We've you know, for example, the
question was this and eminent? Were we under the possibility
of an eminent attack? Okay, you have the Democrat by
the way, the Democrats and the Republicans almost in lockstep.
Republican backing the president, the Democrats arguing against the president.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
I don't know how many people.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Why is it that virtually everybody in their party backs
the president and or attacks the president.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
No one can have mixed feelings about this.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
There's no such scene as a Republican that is pro abortion,
or a republic or a Democrat that is anti abortion.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
It just doesn't exist.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
And I think you're seeing the same thing pan out
with the war, this attack on Iran. So the Democrats
are arguing I saw Adam Shift being interviewed over the
weekend that there was no eminent threat to the United
States And if you look under the War Powers Act
and the Constitution, and therein lies a whole controversy which
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I hope I'll have time to deal with And that
is the big one, no eminent attack that was contemplated.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Iran was not a threat to the United States.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Okay, Now I analyze or analogize this to what happened
in Europe in nineteen thirty eight with Hitler. Let's just
let it happen, let's not deal with it. And you
have Iran that is the state sponsor of terrorist groups
all over the world. They pay for it. They give
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money and arms to Hamas, to Hasballah, to the Hohu.
This it's said, they're the Western world is at risk
because we take attacks.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
I mean, look at.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
How life has changed because of the of the possibility
of terrorist attacks. Look at how we get on airplanes. Now,
look at how during the Olympics, a zillion dollars is
probably the biggest expense of security because of the fear
of terrorist attacks. And so here is Iran pushing it
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like crazy. Okay, that's one, Okay, death of a thousand cuts.
We're not under eminent attack because this is bits and
pieces and it just keeps on growing, growing, or reducing.
And then the other issue is the nuclear capabilities. Now,
this one's kind of strange because the president has gone
from we've obliterated the nuclear capability, nuclear war capability, nuclear
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weapons capability of Iran, and now we haven't, and now
we are attacking the nuclear capability. And here is Iran
saying the enrichment of Iranian is simply for peaceful purposes,
that's all they want. Do you think they really need nukes?
They are a wash in oil, They are floating on oil.
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They need peaceful uses of nuke, like I need another
hole in my body. Yeah, I'm trying to do that
without I've got to be No, I've got to be
very careful about that because the language. Hey, the language,
the language anyway. So and they say only peaceful purposes, well,
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I mean the bottom line is peaceful purposes. You need
to enrich uranium for a nuclear power plant, about three
point seven enrichment percent. They were It takes in the
nineties to make nuclear capability. They were already I think
in the seventies eighties percent they are building an atomic weapon.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
They are building.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
I mean, I don't think anybody has any doubt because
they don't want the International Atomic Energy Commission going in
and reporting on and investigating. No, No, we don't want them
in there, but we only have We're only interested in
peaceful uses of this nuclear energy or nuclear enrichment. And
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so does anybody have any doubts that they're building a
nuclear weapon? I don't know how many countries do. So
do we wait until they have the bomb? Yeah, let's
wait because we're not under in an attack. Do you
prophylactically allow Iran to have that bomb? Well, Israel says,
really simply the United States? Well, Trump says, the US
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and the Western world cannot let Iran have the bomb.
He said that clearly. The President said, we cannot let
them have it. So what do we do? No eminent
threat to the United States? When when does it become eminent?
Speaker 1 (06:26):
When they have it? And Israel lays it right out.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
If they come close to it, Israel is going to
attack Iran. And in fact, Israel did join the United
States in this attack. So was there a reason for
the attack?
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Hell?
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yes, I believe so. On the other hand, was there
a reason not to engage in the attack?
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Hell? Yes. Oh.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
By the way, the president is supposed to speak, we
have that right hand. The President is supposed to spak
at eight o'clock. We're going to start with his comments
his press conference. However, from what I understand, it is
the bestowing of the Congressional Medal of Honor to people.
Have you noticed that the President is handing out the
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Medal of Honor the way we hand out candy at
Halloween is going rather quickly.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
A lot of people are getting it.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Here's a quick word about the medal of Oh I
got so much to cover the Medal of Honor. Okay,
it is so rarely bestowed that it is such a big,
big deal, even to the point, and I don't know
if you knew this that if a soldier, even a private,
wearing his medal or it would so far his medal
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if the joint chiefs of Staff, if a forced are
general is in front of that soldier, the general salutes
the Medal of honor. It's that big a deal. And
now they're going to be so many handed out that
these generals will need elbow replacements, surgery because it's just
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going crazy.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Okay, so we'll start that at eight o'clock.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
See if it's only the metal being given out, and
then we're going to bail out of that. Now more
a for what happened the War Powers Act versus the Constitution.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Big big deal.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
And this is what the Democrats are really putting all
of the pressure on the presidency and the attack. And
that is no one is saying that Iran really bad guys,
that it wasn't okay to kill Hamani, the head, han Sho,
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the Supreme Leader, or a huge number of the hierarchy.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
The issue is the War Powers Act.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Now starting with the Constitution itself, and this is where
you have the Republicans and Pete Hegseth and the President saying,
if you look at Article one, the power to declare
war is only given to Congress. Congress declares war. However,
the President, as commander in chief, is given the authority
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to direct the military once hostilities have begun.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
And here we go.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
The argument is war imminent because that is a defensive posture,
and the President is saying what we did is defensive
and I agree. And so the framers intended the president
to have the authority to repel sudden attacks, no attacks
or yes, we're looking at the possibility of attacks without
a formal declaration of war. So now you have the
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War Powers Act. Oh, Congress has formally declared war eleven
times in the history of the United States five separate conflicts.
You know, the last time Congress declared war was December eighth,
nineteen forty one, the day after Pearl Harbor. Was the
last time war was declared by this country. And so
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what happened is in recent decades, Congress used the authorizations
for the use of military force instead of formal declarations
to sanction military action. Read Vietnam, the war in Cambodia.
Nixon had bombed Cambodia and Laos, and Congress passed a
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bill saying you have to go to Congress. He vetoed
that bill, and the veto was overridden by Congress, Congress
saying you cannot do this without our permission. Guess what
he did it without our permission. The president did this.
Truman did it with a Korean War.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Do you have.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Johnson did it with a Gulf of Tonkin resolution where
he made up the attack on American warship in North
Vietnammese waters that probably didn't even exist. And so that's
what's going on here. So the argument is, and the
Republicans are saying this is not constitutional, the democrats.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Democrats are saying, or the.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Republicans Republicans are saying this is constitutional. The Democrats are
saying it is not. There's one argument that's going on,
all right, how about the political fallout and the Republicans
versus the Democrats. That is going to be a major
major problem here in the States in terms of the
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political fallout. Then there is the issue of the response
from our allies. Now, originally our allies we're talking about
the Gulf States, even Jordan and England said you cannot
use military bases, American military bases, of which we have
all over the Mid East, over all over Europe. Cannot
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use those bases, and even our airspace you cannot use
to go and attack Iran because they have to fly
over those airspaces. That's how American forces go into Iran.
They have to fly over that airspace. Nope, shut it down. Starmer,
who is the Prime Minister of England, originally said that.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Changed his mind.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
He has come back and said, Okay, you can use
our bases.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
And our airspace. Okay, so you've got that.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
And the allies are moving further and further in the
direction of the attacks, helping the attacks. Have they joined
the attacks, not yet, Will they join the attacks yet?
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I think so.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I think so, because Iran is stupid enough to already
attack its neighbors in the Gulf States.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Why, I don't know. It makes no sense.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
There was an interview with the Iranian foreign minister, who
speaks pretty decent English, and was asked by a reporter,
why are you attacking some of these foreign states, your neighbors. Well,
because there are American bases on there and we have
the right to attack. To do the attack, and then
was asked, well, why did you attack Dubai, Why did
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you attack the capital? Why did you go into civilian areas?
We didn't. We had nothing to do with it at all.
That's a lie. I'm this typical what happens in that
part of the world. So the Allies are they going
to be involved?
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Are they not?
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Iran keeps on sending missiles out to its neighbors. So
now there was a rift, for example, between Oman and
Saudi Arabia, a big rift. All of a sudden, you
have these these states in the middle in the in
the Middle East are now combineding.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
They're coalescing against Iran.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Because Iran didn't limit its attacks just to American basis.
It went forward and is attacking civilian targets in Saudi Arabia,
in Kuwait, in the Emirates, and no one understands why.
I mean, you look at all of the pundits, I
mean people that know you're talking about military experts that
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are on all the news outlets, and they're all shaking
their heads and going, this is crazy. And maybe it
has to do with the United States taking out whomany
whom and I humani whomany? Whatever the hell this name is,
the Grand Pooba, you know, the Imperial Wizard, the guy
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who is in charge. Boy, do I know my stuff?
Don't I? Certainly the pronunciation of names. Boy, So much
is going on, I mean, the big story of the
massive story of the attack on Iran by Israel in
the United States early Saturday morning, our time, and what
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my goodness, what news. That is how the world has
changed literally in a matter of well just a few minutes.
When the president who had said, who had warned Iran
we may attack, I'm thinking of attacking.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
It may come in a matter of days. You have
to sit down with us, You have to negotiate.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
You have to get rid of your Enrichmond program, you
have to get rid of your nuclear weapons program, and
Iran kept on saying, oh no, it's peaceful purposes, getting
rid of your missiles.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Man, what a missile arsenal?
Speaker 2 (15:36):
They have long range missiles, medium range missiles, short range missiles.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
What's going on now with the attack?
Speaker 2 (15:44):
First thing is reel did and the United States just
take out Iran's ability to shoot down airplanes and to
shoot down an attack. And that's exactly what happened. At
this point. The allies that is Israel particularly is real
and the United States have complete air superiority over Iran.
No way that Iran can shoot down any of these
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air assets. Matter of fact, we only lost two airplanes
and shut down by Kuwait by accident. All right, oh
and eight o'clock. We're expecting the president to have some comments.
But if all he's going to do is give out
the medal of honor to everybody in the room, not interested,
we'll bail out.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Now, the question is why now? And this one thing
the Democrats have argued, why now? What's your choice of timing?
No eminent threat, no real proof that Iran was building
up its nuclear weapons because of the attack in June. Well,
here's why, and this is what the President with Pete
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Hexth and those that are in favor of the war,
the hierarchy and the military said Iran is now.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
At its weakest point that it has been in decades.
This is the time.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Iran is a legitimate threat to the world and to
the Mid East. And for those of you that think
it's not, you are crazy. Iran is the biggest source
of support and weapons and money to terrorist groups all
over the United's all over the world. And if you
let Iran keep on doing this is death of a
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thousand cuts. And so this is what the President said,
We're done and right now, right now is the time.
And here is why it made so much sense militarily.
The argument is, you don't screw with Israelis and you
don't screw with the United States when you have a
president that's willing to go balls for the wall, much
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like Trump does.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
And here's why.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
The attack intelligence that Israel and the United or Israel
in the United States has is phenomenal in the Middle East,
I mean phenomenal. They know everything and they had followed
who may need for months, and the hierarchy and the
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various high.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
The the what's the word I'm looking for.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
The top of the military chain, the top of the
military forces of Iran, and they all were meeting in
a war council in a building at the headquarters.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
This is how dumb they are.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
How you shake your head or the Allied forces are
just shaking their heads and going.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
How can you be this stupid?
Speaker 2 (18:41):
So you have a war council with the head honcho,
and head of the Revolutionary Guard, and head of the
military and head of the judiciary, and they're all meeting
in one room at the headquarters of the military and
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they said, we have the chance now to take literally
take out this entire group of people, and the head guy,
we are not gonna wait, We're not gonna have this
opportunity again.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Boom, the decision was made.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
So if you think the attack was legitimate, which I
do a lot of argument against it. As I said,
if you think the attack was legitimate, as I do,
you couldn't time it better. You could not let this
opportunity go. The head has been decapitated. Now what happens
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as a result of the head being decapitated? What goes
on after this, what's the future of what's going on
in Iran? That is hugely complicated. In and of itself.
I'll share that with you when we come back. And
keep in mind, at eight o'clock the President is scheduled
to speak. Okay, we'll tune in on that. Unless it's
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all about giving the Medal of Honor just like popcorn.
And that is really unfortunate that he has taken the
Medal of Honor and reduced.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
It's just the reduced.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
How holy it really is, and how rarely it's handed out,
and how sacrisanct it is.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
We're very very folks. Yeah, it's all military. It's the
highest honor of the military can give.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
But they have to do something to get it. Oh yeah, no,
these guys all did. It's extraordinary valor. I mean they
all do. But when you have the Silver Star, for example,
the Bronze Star, those guys could all deserve the Medal
of Honor. It's it's not easy, and it's so rarely
given out that it is considered something so extraordinary that,
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as I said earlier, if a soldier, even a private,
is wearing his Medal of Honor, the Chiefs the Joint,
the Chief of the Joint, the Chairman of the Joint,
Chiefs and generals salute a private. That's how rare and
special it is, and now it's being handed out like crazy.
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All Right, I'm talking obviously about what's going on in
Iran and going through so many of the moving pieces.
I started this at seven o'clock. So I'm going to
suggest if you just come in, please podcast the well
this entire hour, parts that you missed because trying to
explain what happened and more importantly to me, at least
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my take on all this, my analysis, which you may disagree,
and the point is everybody's right and everybody is wrong.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Another piece of this puzzle are is the demonstrations that
are going on all over the world among Iran Iranian
expats and the biggest population of Iranians outside of Iran
is right here in Los Angeles, and the second biggest
is in New York and demonstration is going all over.
I heard one man, actually it was Los Angeles time,
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said the ninety two million people of Iran are now free.
They are not regime change. Is there going to be
regime change? No? Is there going to be another head
honcho because the Supreme leader was killed, as well as
members of the hierarchy, both politically and military. And clerical
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have been killed, but that just means they're going to
put someone new in or a group in. Is there
going to be a regime change very difficult because you've
got the government, you've got the Revolutionary Guard is a
police state that is so entrenched in Iran that's going
to be very difficult to overturn it. Also, this government
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in Iran is prepared to kill and has killed tens
of thousands of demonstrators, literally at point blank range, have
killed demonstrators.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
It takes real balls for the demonstrations to come out.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Right now, there are some demonstrations in Iran and you're
not seeing the killing of them because the Iranian government
is too busy scrambling to stay in power, and they
are probably going to do so. And if you talk
about the demonstrations, look at the hundreds of thousands of
supporters the current regime has. So is there going to
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be massive regime changed? Not until literally the people of
Iran overrun and in massive numbers. It's like the Arab
Spring that happened years ago, where the governments just collapsed,
but the army, the military switched over to the other
side instead of protecting the regimes. It switched over to
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attacking them and joining the population. I believe, this is
my take on it. That's the only way it's going
to happen. Interestingly, the president, who originally said this is
not about regime change at all, has added regime change.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
When this started, a regime change was added to the mix.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
The big mix is the nuclear weapon the big issue,
and he has said much like Natanyahu and the Israelis
have said, we cannot let Iran have a nuclear weapon,
which they are.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
I mean, does anybody believe that.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
They're not building or attempting to build or planning to
build a nuclear weapon?
Speaker 1 (24:36):
And what do you do? You wait until it's done.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
And the issue among the Democrats and those that are
anti the war saying no eminent threat.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
I don't know what that means.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Do you wait until Iran has the bomb and then
it becomes an imminent threat or is about to launch
a bomb or give it to some terrorist group to use,
which they would in a heartbeat.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
That's an imminent threat. Let's wait for that.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
So celebrations around the world doesn't have much to do
with what's going on in Iran.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Not much.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Is there going to be a regime change, probably not.
It's much like what happened in Venezuela. Is there a
regime change? Absolutely not. However, the president arresting Maduro, what
has he done? He has cut a deal with Iran,
with Venezuela, where Venezuela is not so much an ally
of the United States, but doing business with the United
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States selling oil to the United States, not selling oil
to Cuba, not selling oil to countries around the world
that are not our allies, are our enemies. The president
was able to pull that off without regime change. Is
the same thing going to happen? I don't think so.
Why because you have the moula is in charge. Oh
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that's the other one. What do you do with a
government that says death to America, death to America constantly
from the time they came into power in nineteen seventy nine,
Death to America.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
No eminent threat.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
All we're gonna do is support terrorist groups who attack
Americans all day long. And of course Israel, because the
premise of the entire well a good part of the
Iranian government is Israel must not exist. We must destroy Israel,
and that's our closest ally tell me there is no
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eminent threat, even though it's not tomorrow, all right, Coming up,
we're going to cut to the President and we'll see
what he does in terms of this. If he speaks
other than just handing out the medals of honor, we'll
be right back with that. And at eight thirty retro
radio talk radio. That should be fine KFI AM six
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