July 8, 2026 • 24 mins
(July 08, 2026)
Waymo reports teen riders for bad behavior and delivers them to the police… what else can Waymo do? Is this just the tip of the iceberg? Decline of PH.D admissions could imperil a ‘generation of new talent.’ . Dr. Jim Keany, Chief Medical Officer at Dignity Health St. Mary Medical Center in Long Beach, joins The Bill Handel Show for 'Medical News'! Dr. Keany speaks on a blood test the screens for several different types of cancer.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're list Saints kf I AM six forty The bill
handles show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. Good Yeah,
fi AM six forty bill handle here, Good morning.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
It is a day, Wednesday, July eighth, bottom of the hour.
It's Jim Kinney with medical News. A couple of big stories.
The ceasefire is ceasing itself because there is no cease
there's plenty of fire, so that's falling apart. The US
has attacked targets in Iran. Iran has attacked three ships
(00:42):
transversing the straight up Hormuz and it looks like we're
going back to where we were before. Although full scale
war I think still think is going to be averted,
and of course stocks dropping like a stone, oil prices
going up. Well, the vagaries of what's going on with
this war now a great story I want to share
(01:04):
with you. There was a waimo that was in San
Mateo with two teenagers in it and police stopped the
waimo and the teenagers were found drinking alcohol and shooting
toy guns in the back of the car and shooting
out the window. And social media from the San Mateo
(01:26):
Police Department shows the officers detained these two fifteen year
olds because the cops were called. Now who called the cops?
Weamo did. Waimo called the cops. I'll tell you even
better than that, is Wamo shut down the car and
(01:49):
they couldn't get out, locked the car, and then they
are inside the car. I don't know what the hell
they were doing. But a few minutes later the cops
show up and then Waimo unlocks the car and the
kids are arrested. Now, shooting toy guns out of the
window of a moving vehicle is no fun at all
(02:10):
because obviously these two people had a whole few brains.
That's not real smart. And what they were shooting was
something called or bees. Didn't even know those existed out
the windows. These small beads water absorbing. They're described so
that toy stores. They're shell guns.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Okay, they're these tiny, little I don't know, maybe eight
ten millimeter balls, but they're small. When you get them,
you soilk them in water and they imbibe themselves and
it's like similar to a paint gun sort of, and
it shoots them, usually with compressed air, and they splat.
(02:49):
I mean, if you got hit in the eye or
something could be dangerous. But otherwise they just kind of splat.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah, more so than that. And I understand we're not
talking about the dangers of the guns. Like paintball guns
are not inherently dangerous, but with the cops said, toy guns, waterguns,
BB guns all pose real dangers, especially to an untrained eye,
because it looks like you may be getting shot. And
if the cops show up, I think if a gun
(03:18):
has pointed anywhere near them and they pull out their
weapon and air conditioning some guy with several holes through
his body, you know what, that is a policy shooting
that will be justified with the police. Now, all weaymo
cars have internal cameras and microphones, and they say it
can be used to promote safety and security. In this
case that happened, the cameras are also used to ensure
(03:41):
the vehicles are clean and to help find lost items.
By the way, there is is there a weaymoporn dot
com where they've you can just imagine what happens in
a car with no driver and you're alone with your
sexual other in the car. I'll bet you they can
(04:05):
make some money on that one. Yeah, well, yeah, you
sort of forget in the midst of an enjoyable time,
the moment of passion. Yeah, unless you're married, then there's
nothing there. Then you don't have to ever worry about that,
all right, So the problems with Waimo, and I want
to make a point hear, in the past few months,
Weimo has already recalled thousands of cars, They've stopped operations,
(04:28):
and a bunch of cities robo taxis have driven onto
flooded streets. One in San Antonio was swept away. The
company announ suspension on all opera all freeway operations, including
LA one San Francisco. Rider led the car led police
(04:49):
on a high speed pursuit through active highway construction zones.
Cars were rear ended after stopping unexpectedly break for so
fine low flying birds. I mean, there's all manner of
these cars and incidences that can't all be anticipated, so
there are going to be issues. But I do want
(05:12):
to make a point of this. Even with all of
these so they're probably just a handful of certainly accidents
and some close calls. What Waimo says and other car
companies their robo taxis say, every time something I like
this happens, we go to the drawing board and we
go ahead and program for it, and at some point
(05:35):
there's going to be nothing left that isn't been programmed
for and you go, all right, Well, in that case,
we have to test and test and test and tests,
and we don't want these robo taxis out there until
they're completely safe. Let's go back to the early days
of flying. If that was the case, we still wouldn't
(05:55):
have airplanes in the sky. Why because the early planes
just had all kinds of problems. We wouldn't have cars
on the road because the early cars were running into people.
In the meantime. For those people that are against robotax i, say,
oh no, we need more technology. Let's look at the millions,
(06:17):
tens of millions of miles that were driven relative to
the number of accidents. One of the executives of Weimo
was interviewed after this incident and said that a Weimo
taxi is as far as their stats are concerned, and
they say they can prove it five times safer than
(06:37):
a human being driving in a car under the same circumstances,
and I absolutely buy that. Instrumentation is well. First of all,
they never get drunk. A Weimo car never gets drunk.
It never gets tired, it never gets distracted, it never
(06:58):
texts while it's driving. Well it does, but it's programmed
to do that, so of course they'd be safer. And
now I've actually hadn't driven in one yet because there
where I live there aren't very many taxis. We don't
need him, Neil, have you driven in a way moo
or one of these taxis.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Many many times in San Francisco a couple of times,
and here in La I use some more than any
other service.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Wow, I didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Yeah, I've okay, yes, they they're they're here all over
the place.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Yeah, I've seen them all over the place. I should
just jump into one, just to see what it's like. Amy, Weamo,
I haven't done it yet. Okay, I see them all
over the place in my neighborhood. Okay, will Weimo? Not yet,
I'm waiting for Amy. We keep having a date about
we're talking about doing it. We're going to do a
way Moo date. Yeah, oh yeah, why not. That's a
(07:51):
new one. And and Wemo Wemo not yet? Yeah, I
haven't either, not yet. Notice we all say not yet.
Nobody said no chance cono almost a homo. I'm sorry
about that Cono, I came very close to that. Actually, no,
(08:14):
I understand that some of your best friends, so cono. No, No,
all right, not yet, all right, moving on. One of
the things that I have talked about and talk to
friends if I had any, and talk to acquaintances and
people that listen, is that once Trump is done with
his term, his next two terms, you're going to see
(08:38):
a different country. You're going to go back to where
we were. Well, the problem is we probably aren't. There
are some major changes are going to come down geo. Politically,
You've got I don't think you have a Europe ever
trusting the United States again. And by the way, that's
not necessarily bad either, because I agree with the President
saying that Europe should be on its own in terms
(08:59):
of a defense and not rely on the United States
in most cases. The other thing that's going on, and
this is a little bit tougher, is the decline of
PhD admissions because money is being yanked and you've got
major universities the funding has stopped or have been really curtailed,
(09:19):
and lawsuits are flying. What is happening as a result
is a number of PhD students, not only who are
graduating because you've got research grants that are disappearing, but
new grants are not being granted, and it affects the
number of students. Now. One of the things that makes
(09:41):
the US the greatest country in the world, and again
we've talked about that a lot, is that education at
the highest level is the best in the world. Not
necessarily the lowest level high school, elementary school, not even close,
but at the top universities, at the PhD level, there's
nothing like that American universities. And a lot of it
(10:03):
has to do with the research and people coming from
all over the world to the US for the higher education.
Higher education is paid for, research grants, pay for from
the FEDS, pay for a tremendous amount of advances and
understanding of what's going on. And the Trump administration is
(10:26):
cutting it like crazy. And why well, because of political purposes.
That's why we're at risk of losing a whole generation
of new talent, according to some of the experts that
are at the schools. And Liz Houston, when she is
a White House spokesperson and when she was asked about
(10:49):
the money that's being stopped, she said, we start with,
of course, the normal babble. President Trump is committed to
keeping American the world leader in scientific innovation, even while
cutting the grants. And she said that means real funding.
That means funding real science, not left wing ideology. The
(11:11):
problem is real science is also being cut. For years,
federal grant dollars were funneled into politicized research with little
accountability to taxpayers or the results to show for it.
The administration is ending that waste. And where's the rest
of the quote? Let me see that I got that.
(11:32):
Here we go to a simple standard. Grant should go
to the best science, not politics. That's how we maintain
American global dominance. Now, how much research money is made
to go into sociological research versus scientific research? Not much.
You don't do much testing in sociology. You do some,
(11:54):
but not like science. And these universities are the way
they're being cut across the board with the money that's
not being given to them because the Trump administration does
not like their ideology, does not like the way, for example,
and as far as Jews are concerned, love this does
(12:16):
not like the way universities are treating Jewish students or
being pro Palestinian, which is against the tenets of the
Trump the Trumpet administration and thinking. The point is is
that research dollars are really being cut and that has
long lasting effects. This just doesn't come back overnight. And
(12:40):
so that's the problem that we have. That's one of
the issues that I have with the Trump administration. You know,
research is not politicized. I mean, it's research. Science is science. Oh,
we're only giving money to science projects. Yeah, how about
cutting the entire endownment of Harvard, for example, the whole
(13:04):
fake We're cutting fifteen percent, We're cutting twenty percent, We're
coming back twenty five percent to the point where Congress
has instituted those grants. The courts have said the grants
have been yanked because of they were arbitrary and capricious,
and the administration itself goes back and forth on these grants.
(13:27):
We're gonna lose it. Oh, China is jumping in with
a passion to replace us as a place of higher education.
All right, let's do it. Medical News Doctor Jim Keeney,
chief medical officer for Dignity Saint Mary Medical Center in
Long Beach, Good morning, Jim.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
The morning Bill.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Hey, you're just about to have your birthday. I understand
what you.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Came to my birthday party? What are you talking about
those a couple months ago?
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Oh? Well, there you go, I can played. Let's talk
about dementia, okay, early on set, dementia. Okay, I'm I'm
absolutely convinced I have that. There, Jeff, quit laughing, because
I'll forget you worried, I know your Christmas Jim, Yeah,
(14:18):
we worry about that before. Okay.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
A couple of topics.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
A couple of topics, one good topic that actually is
great medical news and on the other side, great medical
news for me because it's a negative medical news. Let's
start with the good stuff. New blood tests that screens
for several different types of cancer. Uh. That a couple
of things. Science is moving at a rapid pace and
(14:42):
dealing with cancer. And the other thing that is not
talked about, at least on this show and among people
I talked to, is how many different kinds of cancer
there are out there, and how medical science is attacking
each one separate. And that's the way it has to be. So, Jim,
would you comment on that?
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Yeah? Sure, So, I mean, at this point, you're right,
that's what happens is we have individual screening tests for
individual cancer, so there's a prostate screening test at PSA
and exam, you might do an ultrasounder an MRI to
look at it. You might do biopsies. Then for lung
cancer it's separate. It's a whole different screening process with
chest X rays, maybe a CT of the chest and
(15:26):
maybe a biopsy as well. Then you have breast cancer
a different one, colon cancer a different one. So we
have all these screening tests and not everyone has access
to those, not everyone can afford them. Some of them
it's not available in their area. So we've looked for
what they call a liquid biopsy, meaning we can just
take your blood and check your blood for the products
(15:48):
that these cancers produce, and maybe that could be an easy,
inexpensive early warning system. The problem is the blood is
literally like a whole ecosystem them with so much stuff
in It's so many chemicals in it that there's a
lot of noise in the in the sample and that
obscures the ability to see maybe a tiny signal from
(16:13):
a cancer that's growing well. The researchers at Theater Sinai
have identified what they call large oncosomes, and oncosomes are
there you know, you have breakdowns in cells throughout your
entire body, and as those cells break down, they release
the chemicals that are inside the cell, which are relatively small,
but they also release the organelles. You know, you have
(16:35):
organs inside your cell that do different functions, so we
call those organelles, and one of the organelles is a vesicle.
And these vesicles are kind of large little blobs that
have proteins around the outside of them, so they're large
enough to be easily detected. And it turns out that
they're pretty standard across invasive cancers. So you can test
(16:58):
for this one type of thing and find multiple different
invasive cancers. So what you want to know about screening
test is number one, it's going to pick it up early,
early enough to do something about it. Number two, it's
not going to give you a bunch of false positives
so that you you don't you know, you're now you're
doing unnecessary testing. In addition, and number three, it's got
(17:19):
to be you know, easy and effective to actually get done.
And this seems to hit all those boxes. But you know,
I don't want to make it sound like it's available today.
This is research, so we still don't know that, and
they're focusing right now on prost date you know again,
because you know, man rule the world. So we're going
to do prostate first and breast cancer later. It's just
(17:39):
the way medicine has worked for a million years. And
and so you know we are they're looking right now
at it replacing maybe not replacing this testing. And that's
the point. It doesn't replace all those other tests, but
maybe it narrows down who needs all those other tests.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Okay, So is it fair to say that we are
getting closer to the magic boys in dealing with cancer?
Speaker 4 (18:02):
Well, of course that's not a treatment. So for me,
in my mind, the magic bullet's a treatment that kills
the cancer without killing anything else in your body, right,
and that's my definition of the magic bullet. But this
would be I mean, our problem is that we know
for most cancers that early diagnosis completely changes your world, right,
especially for colon cancer is a great example of that.
(18:24):
You know, the colon cancer grows almost like a mushroom
stock in your intestine, and the head of the mushroom
is the cancer if you and it's pre cancers to
start with. So if you get a colonoscopy, and they
just snip off the stock. You're done. You're absolutely done.
There's no further treatment necessary. That Over time, the head
(18:44):
of that stock will grow down and once it touches
the intestines, and now the cancer is invaded into the intestines,
the treatment has completely changed. At minimum, you need that
section of intestine cut out and it probably has has
metastasized by then, and now you know you're in a
world of trouble, right, Okay. You know early detection is
(19:07):
what this is going to provide for us, and that's
what that's the great thing that's going to help us with.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
All right, Jim, I have one more question regarding the
blood tests. We talk about this new blood test for
a couple of cancers, and that is as we've talked
over the years, and we've discussed the various ailments, and
we've talked about hundreds of them. You say we need
(19:31):
a blood test. How many symptoms diseases you can find
in a blood test?
Speaker 4 (19:41):
I have no idea the large number. That's the point, right,
And I wish it was as easy as and a
lot of people do think it's as easy as you
get a test as you're having a heart attack. That's
not the case. Even for the heart enzymes that we test,
those are indicators that you may be having a heart attack,
but there's other things that'll make those go up. So
(20:02):
all these tests need to be interpreted. And I think
that's the key thing that people miss is the interpretation
of the blood test is important.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Okay, then let's move over to the West Nile virus.
Last time we talked, it wasn't a very big deal,
except that looks like now is becoming a very big deal.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
Yeah. I mean, this is the worst they've seen it
since two thousand and four. As far as the season
starting so far thirty eight positive mosquito samples, and over
the last five years we averaged about four positive mosquito samples.
At this time of the year, we've had forty eight
human cases and thirty eight severe neuroinvasive cases, so that's
(20:43):
the highest number since two thousand and four. It's been
happening locally. There was a patient hospitalized in Long Beach
area for the neuroinvasive disease that comes with West Nile
virus rarely, but it does come. You know, one percent
that you know, considering how why it spread something like
West now virus could be that could be a big
number if there are a lot of cases. And so
(21:07):
remember that we talked about this before West now virus.
About one out of five people who have West Nile
virus and are infected will show any symptoms at all,
So most people won't show symptoms. Out of that those,
then you know about one percent who have West nonvirus
will get this neural invasive disease and out of those,
ten percent will die sore disease.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Yeah, but is there a vaccine? Is there a vaccination
for this?
Speaker 4 (21:34):
There's absolutely no treatment. There's no vaccination. This is prevention.
It's all about prevention. So right, the keys here are
that you're going to try and reduce places where mosquitoes
would breed. So you've got to get rid of all
standing water, you know those little water catchers underneath your pots,
your your pets water bowl that's outside, you know, any
any place, your gutters. You got to clean out your
(21:55):
gutters and get rid of the standing water because there's
debris in your gutters. All those things have to be
taken care of. Then you you should avoid and this
is tough because right in southern California, sunrise and sunset
are some of the best times a day, but when
you're out at those times, that's peak mosquito activity. So
you need to be aware of that and wear long
sleeve shirts or you know, use repellents like deep containing
(22:18):
repellents that will help you not get bitten.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
All right, Jim, we're done again for another week. We
will see you next Wednesday. Thanks as always. All right,
take care Okay, you notice it's always you wait, Thanks
as always. Okay, total silence. Oh oh, thank thank you.
I love the interviews on the various news outlets. Thank
(22:44):
thanks for being with us. Silence. Oh, it's my pleasure
to be here. All right. We are done for this Wednesday.
Gary and Shannon up next. Great news in soccer, the
US is now out of it completely and so we
are going to be watching other other games. Argentina, boy,
(23:07):
what a game it had against Egypt, and of course
Lionel Messi, the considered may considered by many to be
the best player that there ever was, and we're gonna
watch him again, hopefully over the next couple of games.
That's it, guys. Tomorrow morning wake up call with Will
and Amy, Neil and I jump aboard from six to nine,
(23:29):
and we always have Ann and Kno running the show,
which is why we get so many complaints about how
this show operates. Not complaints. I get him mainly about
mainly about me. Okay, I get it, okay, mainly about me.
But I'm rationalizing. I'm projecting here. All Right, we're done.
(23:51):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
It is a day, Wednesday, July eighth, bottom of the hour.
It's Jim Kinney with medical News. A couple of big stories.
The ceasefire is ceasing itself because there is no cease
there's plenty of fire, so that's falling apart. The US
has attacked targets in Iran. Iran has attacked three ships
(00:42):
transversing the straight up Hormuz and it looks like we're
going back to where we were before. Although full scale
war I think still think is going to be averted,
and of course stocks dropping like a stone, oil prices
going up. Well, the vagaries of what's going on with
this war now a great story I want to share
(01:04):
with you. There was a waimo that was in San
Mateo with two teenagers in it and police stopped the
waimo and the teenagers were found drinking alcohol and shooting
toy guns in the back of the car and shooting
out the window. And social media from the San Mateo
(01:26):
Police Department shows the officers detained these two fifteen year
olds because the cops were called. Now who called the cops?
Weamo did. Waimo called the cops. I'll tell you even
better than that, is Wamo shut down the car and
(01:49):
they couldn't get out, locked the car, and then they
are inside the car. I don't know what the hell
they were doing. But a few minutes later the cops
show up and then Waimo unlocks the car and the
kids are arrested. Now, shooting toy guns out of the
window of a moving vehicle is no fun at all
(02:10):
because obviously these two people had a whole few brains.
That's not real smart. And what they were shooting was
something called or bees. Didn't even know those existed out
the windows. These small beads water absorbing. They're described so
that toy stores. They're shell guns.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Okay, they're these tiny, little I don't know, maybe eight
ten millimeter balls, but they're small. When you get them,
you soilk them in water and they imbibe themselves and
it's like similar to a paint gun sort of, and
it shoots them, usually with compressed air, and they splat.
(02:49):
I mean, if you got hit in the eye or
something could be dangerous. But otherwise they just kind of splat.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah, more so than that. And I understand we're not
talking about the dangers of the guns. Like paintball guns
are not inherently dangerous, but with the cops said, toy guns, waterguns,
BB guns all pose real dangers, especially to an untrained eye,
because it looks like you may be getting shot. And
if the cops show up, I think if a gun
(03:18):
has pointed anywhere near them and they pull out their
weapon and air conditioning some guy with several holes through
his body, you know what, that is a policy shooting
that will be justified with the police. Now, all weaymo
cars have internal cameras and microphones, and they say it
can be used to promote safety and security. In this
case that happened, the cameras are also used to ensure
(03:41):
the vehicles are clean and to help find lost items.
By the way, there is is there a weaymoporn dot
com where they've you can just imagine what happens in
a car with no driver and you're alone with your
sexual other in the car. I'll bet you they can
(04:05):
make some money on that one. Yeah, well, yeah, you
sort of forget in the midst of an enjoyable time,
the moment of passion. Yeah, unless you're married, then there's
nothing there. Then you don't have to ever worry about that,
all right, So the problems with Waimo, and I want
to make a point hear, in the past few months,
Weimo has already recalled thousands of cars, They've stopped operations,
(04:28):
and a bunch of cities robo taxis have driven onto
flooded streets. One in San Antonio was swept away. The
company announ suspension on all opera all freeway operations, including
LA one San Francisco. Rider led the car led police
(04:49):
on a high speed pursuit through active highway construction zones.
Cars were rear ended after stopping unexpectedly break for so
fine low flying birds. I mean, there's all manner of
these cars and incidences that can't all be anticipated, so
there are going to be issues. But I do want
(05:12):
to make a point of this. Even with all of
these so they're probably just a handful of certainly accidents
and some close calls. What Waimo says and other car
companies their robo taxis say, every time something I like
this happens, we go to the drawing board and we
go ahead and program for it, and at some point
(05:35):
there's going to be nothing left that isn't been programmed
for and you go, all right, Well, in that case,
we have to test and test and test and tests,
and we don't want these robo taxis out there until
they're completely safe. Let's go back to the early days
of flying. If that was the case, we still wouldn't
(05:55):
have airplanes in the sky. Why because the early planes
just had all kinds of problems. We wouldn't have cars
on the road because the early cars were running into people.
In the meantime. For those people that are against robotax i, say,
oh no, we need more technology. Let's look at the millions,
(06:17):
tens of millions of miles that were driven relative to
the number of accidents. One of the executives of Weimo
was interviewed after this incident and said that a Weimo
taxi is as far as their stats are concerned, and
they say they can prove it five times safer than
(06:37):
a human being driving in a car under the same circumstances,
and I absolutely buy that. Instrumentation is well. First of all,
they never get drunk. A Weimo car never gets drunk.
It never gets tired, it never gets distracted, it never
(06:58):
texts while it's driving. Well it does, but it's programmed
to do that, so of course they'd be safer. And
now I've actually hadn't driven in one yet because there
where I live there aren't very many taxis. We don't
need him, Neil, have you driven in a way moo
or one of these taxis.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Many many times in San Francisco a couple of times,
and here in La I use some more than any
other service.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Wow, I didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Yeah, I've okay, yes, they they're they're here all over
the place.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Yeah, I've seen them all over the place. I should
just jump into one, just to see what it's like. Amy, Weamo,
I haven't done it yet. Okay, I see them all
over the place in my neighborhood. Okay, will Weimo? Not yet,
I'm waiting for Amy. We keep having a date about
we're talking about doing it. We're going to do a
way Moo date. Yeah, oh yeah, why not. That's a
(07:51):
new one. And and Wemo Wemo not yet? Yeah, I
haven't either, not yet. Notice we all say not yet.
Nobody said no chance cono almost a homo. I'm sorry
about that Cono, I came very close to that. Actually, no,
(08:14):
I understand that some of your best friends, so cono. No, No,
all right, not yet, all right, moving on. One of
the things that I have talked about and talk to
friends if I had any, and talk to acquaintances and
people that listen, is that once Trump is done with
his term, his next two terms, you're going to see
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a different country. You're going to go back to where
we were. Well, the problem is we probably aren't. There
are some major changes are going to come down geo. Politically,
You've got I don't think you have a Europe ever
trusting the United States again. And by the way, that's
not necessarily bad either, because I agree with the President
saying that Europe should be on its own in terms
(08:59):
of a defense and not rely on the United States
in most cases. The other thing that's going on, and
this is a little bit tougher, is the decline of
PhD admissions because money is being yanked and you've got
major universities the funding has stopped or have been really curtailed,
(09:19):
and lawsuits are flying. What is happening as a result
is a number of PhD students, not only who are
graduating because you've got research grants that are disappearing, but
new grants are not being granted, and it affects the
number of students. Now. One of the things that makes
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the US the greatest country in the world, and again
we've talked about that a lot, is that education at
the highest level is the best in the world. Not
necessarily the lowest level high school, elementary school, not even close,
but at the top universities, at the PhD level, there's
nothing like that American universities. And a lot of it
(10:03):
has to do with the research and people coming from
all over the world to the US for the higher education.
Higher education is paid for, research grants, pay for from
the FEDS, pay for a tremendous amount of advances and
understanding of what's going on. And the Trump administration is
(10:26):
cutting it like crazy. And why well, because of political purposes.
That's why we're at risk of losing a whole generation
of new talent, according to some of the experts that
are at the schools. And Liz Houston, when she is
a White House spokesperson and when she was asked about
(10:49):
the money that's being stopped, she said, we start with,
of course, the normal babble. President Trump is committed to
keeping American the world leader in scientific innovation, even while
cutting the grants. And she said that means real funding.
That means funding real science, not left wing ideology. The
(11:11):
problem is real science is also being cut. For years,
federal grant dollars were funneled into politicized research with little
accountability to taxpayers or the results to show for it.
The administration is ending that waste. And where's the rest
of the quote? Let me see that I got that.
(11:32):
Here we go to a simple standard. Grant should go
to the best science, not politics. That's how we maintain
American global dominance. Now, how much research money is made
to go into sociological research versus scientific research? Not much.
You don't do much testing in sociology. You do some,
(11:54):
but not like science. And these universities are the way
they're being cut across the board with the money that's
not being given to them because the Trump administration does
not like their ideology, does not like the way, for example,
and as far as Jews are concerned, love this does
(12:16):
not like the way universities are treating Jewish students or
being pro Palestinian, which is against the tenets of the
Trump the Trumpet administration and thinking. The point is is
that research dollars are really being cut and that has
long lasting effects. This just doesn't come back overnight. And
(12:40):
so that's the problem that we have. That's one of
the issues that I have with the Trump administration. You know,
research is not politicized. I mean, it's research. Science is science. Oh,
we're only giving money to science projects. Yeah, how about
cutting the entire endownment of Harvard, for example, the whole
(13:04):
fake We're cutting fifteen percent, We're cutting twenty percent, We're
coming back twenty five percent to the point where Congress
has instituted those grants. The courts have said the grants
have been yanked because of they were arbitrary and capricious,
and the administration itself goes back and forth on these grants.
(13:27):
We're gonna lose it. Oh, China is jumping in with
a passion to replace us as a place of higher education.
All right, let's do it. Medical News Doctor Jim Keeney,
chief medical officer for Dignity Saint Mary Medical Center in
Long Beach, Good morning, Jim.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
The morning Bill.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Hey, you're just about to have your birthday. I understand
what you.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Came to my birthday party? What are you talking about
those a couple months ago?
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Oh? Well, there you go, I can played. Let's talk
about dementia, okay, early on set, dementia. Okay, I'm I'm
absolutely convinced I have that. There, Jeff, quit laughing, because
I'll forget you worried, I know your Christmas Jim, Yeah,
(14:18):
we worry about that before. Okay.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
A couple of topics.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
A couple of topics, one good topic that actually is
great medical news and on the other side, great medical
news for me because it's a negative medical news. Let's
start with the good stuff. New blood tests that screens
for several different types of cancer. Uh. That a couple
of things. Science is moving at a rapid pace and
(14:42):
dealing with cancer. And the other thing that is not
talked about, at least on this show and among people
I talked to, is how many different kinds of cancer
there are out there, and how medical science is attacking
each one separate. And that's the way it has to be. So, Jim,
would you comment on that?
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Yeah? Sure, So, I mean, at this point, you're right,
that's what happens is we have individual screening tests for
individual cancer, so there's a prostate screening test at PSA
and exam, you might do an ultrasounder an MRI to
look at it. You might do biopsies. Then for lung
cancer it's separate. It's a whole different screening process with
chest X rays, maybe a CT of the chest and
(15:26):
maybe a biopsy as well. Then you have breast cancer
a different one, colon cancer a different one. So we
have all these screening tests and not everyone has access
to those, not everyone can afford them. Some of them
it's not available in their area. So we've looked for
what they call a liquid biopsy, meaning we can just
take your blood and check your blood for the products
(15:48):
that these cancers produce, and maybe that could be an easy,
inexpensive early warning system. The problem is the blood is
literally like a whole ecosystem them with so much stuff
in It's so many chemicals in it that there's a
lot of noise in the in the sample and that
obscures the ability to see maybe a tiny signal from
(16:13):
a cancer that's growing well. The researchers at Theater Sinai
have identified what they call large oncosomes, and oncosomes are
there you know, you have breakdowns in cells throughout your
entire body, and as those cells break down, they release
the chemicals that are inside the cell, which are relatively small,
but they also release the organelles. You know, you have
(16:35):
organs inside your cell that do different functions, so we
call those organelles, and one of the organelles is a vesicle.
And these vesicles are kind of large little blobs that
have proteins around the outside of them, so they're large
enough to be easily detected. And it turns out that
they're pretty standard across invasive cancers. So you can test
(16:58):
for this one type of thing and find multiple different
invasive cancers. So what you want to know about screening
test is number one, it's going to pick it up early,
early enough to do something about it. Number two, it's
not going to give you a bunch of false positives
so that you you don't you know, you're now you're
doing unnecessary testing. In addition, and number three, it's got
(17:19):
to be you know, easy and effective to actually get done.
And this seems to hit all those boxes. But you know,
I don't want to make it sound like it's available today.
This is research, so we still don't know that, and
they're focusing right now on prost date you know again,
because you know, man rule the world. So we're going
to do prostate first and breast cancer later. It's just
(17:39):
the way medicine has worked for a million years. And
and so you know we are they're looking right now
at it replacing maybe not replacing this testing. And that's
the point. It doesn't replace all those other tests, but
maybe it narrows down who needs all those other tests.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Okay, So is it fair to say that we are
getting closer to the magic boys in dealing with cancer?
Speaker 4 (18:02):
Well, of course that's not a treatment. So for me,
in my mind, the magic bullet's a treatment that kills
the cancer without killing anything else in your body, right,
and that's my definition of the magic bullet. But this
would be I mean, our problem is that we know
for most cancers that early diagnosis completely changes your world, right,
especially for colon cancer is a great example of that.
(18:24):
You know, the colon cancer grows almost like a mushroom
stock in your intestine, and the head of the mushroom
is the cancer if you and it's pre cancers to
start with. So if you get a colonoscopy, and they
just snip off the stock. You're done. You're absolutely done.
There's no further treatment necessary. That Over time, the head
(18:44):
of that stock will grow down and once it touches
the intestines, and now the cancer is invaded into the intestines,
the treatment has completely changed. At minimum, you need that
section of intestine cut out and it probably has has
metastasized by then, and now you know you're in a
world of trouble, right, Okay. You know early detection is
(19:07):
what this is going to provide for us, and that's
what that's the great thing that's going to help us with.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
All right, Jim, I have one more question regarding the
blood tests. We talk about this new blood test for
a couple of cancers, and that is as we've talked
over the years, and we've discussed the various ailments, and
we've talked about hundreds of them. You say we need
(19:31):
a blood test. How many symptoms diseases you can find
in a blood test?
Speaker 4 (19:41):
I have no idea the large number. That's the point, right,
And I wish it was as easy as and a
lot of people do think it's as easy as you
get a test as you're having a heart attack. That's
not the case. Even for the heart enzymes that we test,
those are indicators that you may be having a heart attack,
but there's other things that'll make those go up. So
(20:02):
all these tests need to be interpreted. And I think
that's the key thing that people miss is the interpretation
of the blood test is important.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Okay, then let's move over to the West Nile virus.
Last time we talked, it wasn't a very big deal,
except that looks like now is becoming a very big deal.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
Yeah. I mean, this is the worst they've seen it
since two thousand and four. As far as the season
starting so far thirty eight positive mosquito samples, and over
the last five years we averaged about four positive mosquito samples.
At this time of the year, we've had forty eight
human cases and thirty eight severe neuroinvasive cases, so that's
(20:43):
the highest number since two thousand and four. It's been
happening locally. There was a patient hospitalized in Long Beach
area for the neuroinvasive disease that comes with West Nile
virus rarely, but it does come. You know, one percent
that you know, considering how why it spread something like
West now virus could be that could be a big
number if there are a lot of cases. And so
(21:07):
remember that we talked about this before West now virus.
About one out of five people who have West Nile
virus and are infected will show any symptoms at all,
So most people won't show symptoms. Out of that those,
then you know about one percent who have West nonvirus
will get this neural invasive disease and out of those,
ten percent will die sore disease.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Yeah, but is there a vaccine? Is there a vaccination
for this?
Speaker 4 (21:34):
There's absolutely no treatment. There's no vaccination. This is prevention.
It's all about prevention. So right, the keys here are
that you're going to try and reduce places where mosquitoes
would breed. So you've got to get rid of all
standing water, you know those little water catchers underneath your pots,
your your pets water bowl that's outside, you know, any
any place, your gutters. You got to clean out your
(21:55):
gutters and get rid of the standing water because there's
debris in your gutters. All those things have to be
taken care of. Then you you should avoid and this
is tough because right in southern California, sunrise and sunset
are some of the best times a day, but when
you're out at those times, that's peak mosquito activity. So
you need to be aware of that and wear long
sleeve shirts or you know, use repellents like deep containing
(22:18):
repellents that will help you not get bitten.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
All right, Jim, we're done again for another week. We
will see you next Wednesday. Thanks as always. All right,
take care Okay, you notice it's always you wait, Thanks
as always. Okay, total silence. Oh oh, thank thank you.
I love the interviews on the various news outlets. Thank
(22:44):
thanks for being with us. Silence. Oh, it's my pleasure
to be here. All right. We are done for this Wednesday.
Gary and Shannon up next. Great news in soccer, the
US is now out of it completely and so we
are going to be watching other other games. Argentina, boy,
(23:07):
what a game it had against Egypt, and of course
Lionel Messi, the considered may considered by many to be
the best player that there ever was, and we're gonna
watch him again, hopefully over the next couple of games.
That's it, guys. Tomorrow morning wake up call with Will
and Amy, Neil and I jump aboard from six to nine,
(23:29):
and we always have Ann and Kno running the show,
which is why we get so many complaints about how
this show operates. Not complaints. I get him mainly about
mainly about me. Okay, I get it, okay, mainly about me.
But I'm rationalizing. I'm projecting here. All Right, we're done.
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