February 13, 2026 • 32 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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in for Tim Conway Junior next week. Conway moves tonight,
So it'll start on Tuesday from six to ten and
your daytime will change up ever so slightly with the
real Cool addition to the lineup, Monks and Merrill from
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noon to three and then on at three o'clock. It'll
be John Colebelt. He'll be three to six, and then
Conway comes on. Of course, prior to that it'll be
Gary and Shannon. Before that it's handled. So this this situation,
it's funny we're talking about Chris Merril too with with
Michael Munk should begins next week on KFIN because I
(01:29):
think you Chris Merrill, who just walked into the studio
and I just try to corroud you with Sharon, you
talk to the sheriff who is involved with this Nancy
Guthrie disappearance.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Yeah, yeah, Well I was not in Phoenix, and so
there were, you know, stories that would pop up out
of Pema County, which is a Tucson area, and so
he was. He's very uh it makes himself available to
the media pretty easily. He's not like hearing Bass. I mean,
it's a like you, if you call Chris Nanos, he'll
come on with it. He's pretty media savving in that regard.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
I mean, I doubt he's ad the case quite as
demanding as this one, though.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
And there's a lot of eyes on him.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
There's a lot of criticisms, especially when it comes to
things like not sharing some of the evidence with the
FBI to take that to Quantico to get it tested. Instead,
he wants to send it to his own private lab
in Florida. And I don't know exactly why he would
shut the FBI out. Whether there's a mistrust with the FBI,
I don't know. Maybe there's a contract that he has
(02:25):
with the Florida lab. I don't have any idea sure,
So I'm not really sure. But I did see now
the breaking news that we're seeing it on the on
the the Chiron's on all the TV stations that Sheriff
Natal says, we have DNA, we just don't know whose
it is.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Well, here's what I do know about once you have DNA.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
We saw this with the Golden State Killer was the first,
the first one, right and Mark, you and I talked
about this when it was breaking back in the day,
and and that is that now you can triangulate it
using some of the familial DNA through those those commercial
companies that are out there. So I think we might
be at a matter of time at this point.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
I mean this is days now.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Sharon and I were talking about the fact that it's
so long now into this entire thing, and there's been
no proof of life. Generally, kidnapping situations are accompanied by
some proof of life and some sort of ransom demand.
And I get that there was that ransom demand that
came through the local TV station.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Seemed like a low number. Honestly in terms of what
they were asking. I don't know it was.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
This thing has a lot around it, and as I say,
still no proof of life, a lot around it that
I can't quite fit into sort of any existing kidnapping narrative,
you know, which is.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Really interesting that you say that, because one of the
things that I'm going to talk about this evening too
is how we're all sort of taking the little bits
and pieces of the story that we do know, and
we're trying to have an understanding of it within our
own minds, like we're trying to reconcile using only limited information,
what could possibly be going on. And to your point, yeah,
that's a low amount. But then you hear about another
ransom demand. Somebody says it's two thousand dollars, somebody else
(04:01):
has a million, somebody else hays six million dollars, And
then we're left on the outside going what's fact, what's fiction?
And how do we reconcile that in our heads as
we watch this as spectators in the outside. And I
kind of feel bad for the whole Guthrie family because
here we are.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
I mean, obviously we feel bad, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
I mean, can you imagine if you're going through the
most difficult time in your entire life and then you've
got the whole country that's hitting up the Reddit boards
to talk about what you're doing.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Yeah, that's horrifun And you're also wondering have we done
the right thing? Should we have done this? And people
are constantly second guessing you. Why didn't they do this?
Why didn't they did that? Why didn't the authorities moved
the stuff to Quantico? Why is it going to Florida?
Et cetera. These are things like oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
I mean yeah, what about that. I mean, you as
a family are having to live these second guesses as well.
I think it's very, very tough. Now, let's just talk
(04:48):
about the case for a second, since you do know
this case so well, and Bellio please feel free to
chime in as well, and Crozier for that matter, et cetera,
and Staffus and everyone. But I I just that Merril
has this sort of glanular knowledge of the sheriff and
that area. There's there was an additional glove found, right
(05:08):
there are three gloves found, I mean, which is again
just an odd thing.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
I don't I can't quite square that.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
So this is where I think it's gonna be really
interesting because now they have an idea they have to
look for the three handed man.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Yeah, and then.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
They find out Well, but the question is where the
gloves come from? I mean, just because you found black gloves. Look,
if you go to my apartment right now, you're gonna
see I have a box of black gloves that I
use if I'm doing you know, whether it's house cleaning
or I'm working on my car, whatever it is. So sure,
what did those come from? The crime scene? You found
black gloves that could have been a landscaper who threw.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Them in the trail.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
And also how sloppy of a kidnapper who wore a mask,
who knocked out the camera, who did all those different
things to just discard his gloves so nearby. I'm a
little skeptical about how the gloves really fit into this
gay Yeah. Interesting. Interesting.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Also, the disabling of the ring camera was something that
he was trying to do.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
You were telling me about that, Sharon.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
I heard this one of the experts talking about this
on podcasts that the vegetation that was pulled, he walks up,
you know, looks at the doorbell, turns around, goes to
the vegetation. You could see him like kind of pulling
at it to see if it would fall apart. And
so some people are saying that possibly he put it
to like behind the ring doorbell the nest doorbell to
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pull it off, because those come off with like a
little key that you can kind of clip him off.
And so I think that kind of makes sense that
he wasn't really trying to hide his face. You had
already seen it, that he was trying to pull.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
It off, Oh as a tool.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Yeah, yes, his vegetation as a tool, right.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
There was maybe a false hope, but it seemed like
a sort of legitimate hope that the video would yield
some sort of lead. But it doesn't feel as though
there's any hot lead that we've found out about anyway
through media.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
No. And I think that's mean the guy was wearing
a scheme mask.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
I mean, obviously we know they're saying it was a
white guy about however, tall sharing fellow.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Yeah, just a little feller, he'll tell you.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Compared to sixty three yeah yeah, so yeah, I mean,
how many how many guys are you know, white guys
that are five ten in Tucson.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
I mean it's a town that's got two million people.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
So I just think all show that we're talking about
the blood at the scene. She's an elderly lady, I mean,
eighty four years no proof of life. Like you said, Mark,
I think I'm I'm I've got a pretty grim you know.
I certainly pray that this lady is still alive. But wow,
that had four thousand calls into their into their tip line.
(07:45):
But again, you know those calls could be you know,
I'm guessing the majority of them are, you know, not
helping them for.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Well, you see all you know, lately they have all
these RN camera videos of people walking around in the
middle of the night with backpacks. There's been two that
they're looking at right now. So there are some leads
that I think releasing the videos has brought them.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
So they're offering a fifty thousand dollars reward for the
information on to one on her yew, it's up to
one hundred thousand. Now, yeah, anyway, that's the latest. There
is hope, there is DNA apparently, but the time sadly
has really clicked along. And she's a lady who needs medication.
She's eighty four. This is an insanely traumatic experience and
(08:28):
it would love that you know so much about it, Chris,
and look forward to listening to you tonight and in
your new time period next week.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
So thanks Marc, we appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Yeah, noon to three, Thank you, Sharon Bellio, And don't
go anywhere, Sharon Bellio, because you still have forty five
minutes of radio content to provide.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
You're listening to Tim Conwayjunire on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Let's see Monday's President's Day right. Conway will be back
for that.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
N'll be his.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Last show, so you definitely want to check that out
before he moves to Knights and Culba goes back to
that time period and as I say, Monks and maryl
before that, Gary and Shanna before that, and Bill Handler
before that. The AI domination game has led to many
saying that the world is truly in peril and an
(09:20):
AI safety leader said those exact words. The world is
in peril and has literally pushed away from the world
of AI. This is where he's spent the majority of
his professional life. And well, don't take my word for it.
Here's what's going on.
Speaker 6 (09:38):
Very positive experiences, there are significant concerns with safety, privacy,
and ethical standards. Doctor su Varma is Aboard certified psychiatrist
and author of the book Why do you think more
people are choosing the chatbots over over friends, family, and
professional doctors?
Speaker 7 (09:53):
You know, we used to think that it was because
of lack of accessibility, affordability, stigma, but gil this is
so fascinating. It's fear of judgment, right, and we feel
that this is a safe space that we can get
instant advice. It's immediate gratification and the need that there's
for constant support and reassurance. There's a lot happening in
(10:14):
the world and people are like, I just need a
quick go too. But there is a price, and it's
very important that we understand the limitations.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
Well, I hear what you say about the immediate gratification,
but I have friends who use it that say it's
actually very good that they will do you hear that
that they will put in specific conversations he said this,
I said this, he said this, what should I say?
And the advice it comes back they say is actually
very good and sounds tailor made for them.
Speaker 7 (10:37):
Right. But the problem is, Gail, that it is overall
very generic. It does not understand the context of your life,
your lived experience, your unique situation and background, something that
only a trained therapist, through interaction in real time with
somebody would say. There's also an objective part of therapy,
which is like what we call the mental status exam,
looking at somebody's grooming, their hygiene, how well dressed they are,
(11:00):
eye contact, their behavior, are they fidgeting, are they moving?
Are they pacing? You can tell so much about a
person face to face. There's also the ethical standards of
discrimination and bias, which we know a lot of the
LMS have. They don't understand the culture, the context, religion.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
With the LM.
Speaker 7 (11:15):
These large language models.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Are all right.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
If you have to ask what LLLM is and you're
hosting the segment, I mean, I don't know, did you know?
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Anyway?
Speaker 1 (11:22):
I'm sorry, I don't mean to be taking a cheap shot,
but to be fair, this is the deception. They talk
to you because it is a language model that does
learn how to interact with you. And they talked. And
by the way, LM, I'm not saying everybody should know it.
(11:42):
I just thought she should know it. She's hosting that segment.
But I do think that that it creates a seductive
kind of back and forth you end up talking. I
think I told the story here on KFI about mourning
the loss of a and not being able to get
over it three days later and being so overwhelmed with grief,
(12:05):
and I actually went on to AI and I described
in great detail, which is the way you need to
interact with AI. Generally, of course, you need the more information,
specific detailed information you can provide, the better response you'll get.
And this is not a vote for or against AI.
But I was so full of grief that I and
(12:29):
I talked to all my friends and there is a
quality of like, I don't want to burden anybody over
and I've been through it with my wife and I've
been through it with everybody, and I'm still overcome and
i can't sleep and I'm in tears and the loss
of this pet. So I mentioned this because I think
(12:50):
it's instructional. So I introduced all of these details about
how I was feeling, but also about my relationship with
the pet, how long the little French she had been around,
and how I'd interacted with her, and how she'd been
a part of this and that, and how the struggle
over her health care had involved a surgery and involved
false hope, it involved her coming through the surgery positively
(13:12):
and then losing her a day later. There was an
emotional ride that I wanted to tell you, and I
had no idea whether it was going to work for
the AI thing. I was just almost trying to unload it,
you know, so I'm trying to like just clear my
head of it. And what followed was a response from
the AI that was so and again, this is imaginary, right,
(13:37):
it doesn't it's a machine and it doesn't know me.
But the way it spoke to me, the way it
spelled out, Mark, I understand how long you'd known Frenchy,
I understand the relationship you had. I understand how difficult
this must be. I mean, I'm giving you kind of
a generic response. But then it used all of these
(14:01):
psychological grief related coherent ways to try to get me
through it, meaning it was a distillation of all that
stuff you would have seen in all the books about
grief and loss, and in that way, it's what I
needed to hear at that time. It's what I needed
(14:22):
to read. Now, maybe if I had just read a
chapter or two about it, I would have had the
same effect. But it was that language model to which
they've referred in this interview that sucked me in. And
you can say that was a terrific way to get
me past it, but it's also and this is what
(14:44):
the psychiatrist is saying, the danger is that you are
getting into a relationship with something that really doesn't understand
how to handle your psychological grief, how your psychological challenges,
your life challenge. Lee just actually proceed and it's giving you,
in a way canned answers, but they seem personal because
(15:07):
of the language model. I mean, if you've interacted with AI,
it's amazing. I mean, it just does feel like it's
really speaking to you. But what's rapidly happening is there
are a lot of people, younger people particularly, who have
succumbed to the advice of AI, and it's led to
(15:29):
some very dark places. So in a nutshell. That is
the AI problem, and it's leading to resignations at many
of these AI companies, high level resignations because they feel
the future of AI can be very dark. It's definitely here, though,
dark or light. AI is here to stay tops in here.
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For Conway, we are KFIAM six forty live everywhere on
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Speaker 5 (15:58):
You're listening to Tim Conway's Junior on demand from KFI
AM sixty.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
That's a super inside joke for all of you p ones,
all of you regular listeners. You know, it's the third
time that Steff has played that song today. I love it.
I busted him by accident. He had played a second
and now he's just rubbing it in. The Doobie Brothers, Yeah,
(16:26):
came out of the Bay Area. When I was up
in the Bay Area. Was a big deal back then,
steph oh Yeah, stefush I was on Bay Area TV.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
It was a big deal. Used to hang out with
the Doobie Brothers. Did you really uh?
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Their manager, that's quite different, a little different. Their manager
opened up a winery. You imagine, making all that Doobie
Brothers money. Then there was some big dispute with the
band when managers go back. Yeah, it was when when
(17:00):
hot managers go cold. It was really ugly. It was
so ugly that when I went back to the Bay
Area years later and I said, hey, what happened between
you know you and the Doobies, he said, oh, man,
I can't tell. He said, I want to tell you,
but I can. I signed a thing, and I mean
essentially he got you know, so I don't know what did.
(17:20):
I never did find out what happened. I'd heard rumors that,
you know, of all sorts of things, but clearly they
weren't happy with his management. I mean, there was a
huge lawsuit, but they were the hottest what was it,
would you say, seventies and eighties?
Speaker 3 (17:37):
A little bit late seventies eighties?
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Right, Yeah, there sound changed like when that song came out,
it wasn't Michael McDonald Doobie Brothers.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Then Michael McDonald showed up, and then you had to
maybe Tom Johnson, I think singing right there you go.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Yeah, interesting, this is Casey under the countdown your feet
on the ground. Yeah, they do be d he's taking
us number one on the Cinera Bank. The article that
jumped up, God don't want an't he great. You know
now they run I think like they're yeah, not even
find the stuff everywhere.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Yeah, they might even have it. I think they might
even have a station or a channel on iHeartRadio. They think, yeah, yeah,
it's great nostalgia. You know, Casey's Coast to coast.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Right, there's a if you can on YouTube, which I'm
you know now I'm on YouTube with the show.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
So now I'm on YouTube all the time.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
You can put in exactly what date, what Sunday or
a weekend you want, what week and then you could
find the Casey Caseum American Top forty for it.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
It's kind of wild. You know.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
There's a whole nostalgia thing, and it's fun to listen to.
But let me tell you, you think that you have more
patience for it than you do it doesn't, you know.
But hearing his stuff and here's talk ups, they're a
lot of fun. There's a miraculous anti aging vaccine. Apparently
there is an elixir I'm just reading about. This is
(19:05):
a vaccine that supposedly slows aging and cuts dementia risk.
And it is the shingles vaccine. I know you're saying,
wait a minute, that's the vaccine I've been putting off.
You know, there are two parts of the shingles vaccine.
You get one part and it may lay you up
(19:27):
for a little while, but or you know, you might
feel some effect or nothing at all. Then the second
part I've heard is the one that really lays you
out and can really make you feel bad.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
But if.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Shingles are a terrible disease, have you ever had chicken pox?
This virus is inside your body, and shingles is sort
of the reactivation of this virus, and it's debilitating with
nerve pain. And the first shingle shot that will help
prevent shingle was an six and it was a huge
(20:02):
win for the medical profession of public health. But what
they've found in the last year, there's been a stream
of studies showing that the shingles vaccine doesn't just prevent shingles.
They track specific biomarkers in sampling, and it's making a
(20:23):
case that there's a genuine cause and effect between the
shingles vaccine and anti aging, anti dementia treatments. Now, obviously
they're going to need to build these studies out. They'll
have to be a lot more investment and a lot
more researchers who are working on this question, But you
(20:44):
also need a lot of people to take the vaccine
who aren't taking it because of that thing I'm talking about,
which is that there's a reaction. Apparently the singles vaccine
is just something that people avoid because again people are
put on Look, you know, if you're fifty years old
or older, you're eligible or they recommend the shingles vaccine,
(21:06):
and I know plenty of people who haven't taken it,
myself being one of them. It's like, oh, I know
I need to take it, but I know it's so
Apparently it reduces the risk of shingles substantially. And once again,
there may be a correlation between this vaccine and the
(21:30):
essentially in early research it staves off it would suggest dementia.
It would be an amazing thing if they really can
show this correlation. But look, if you're fifty or older,
you need this anyway. For the most part, they recommend it.
As I say, it's very effective in keeping at bay
this horribly debilitating thing. And it may have the additional
(21:55):
effect of keeping at bay something that we all worry about,
which is somehow you know, mental acuity slipping away right,
full blown dementia anyway, It's that simple. It's the shingle
potentially anyway, the shingles vaccine. So I said I was
going to get it this past week and I didn't,
but I'm close. You know, sometimes you have to say
(22:17):
it a few times and then you actually do it.
I'm going to work out. I'm going to work out.
I'm going to work out, and then you work out.
So that's the latest on that development.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Have you seen the you're talking about AI before we
kind of talking about the heavy side. You know, the
way in which you can interact with AI, and it
has a it's a language model that allows us to
feel as though it's talking to us in really fairly convincing,
substantial and deep ways. But this is a different kind
(22:55):
of AI that you have no doubt seen on Instagram.
It's on social media everywhere. It's the way in which
AI generates images of celebrities. I get a ton of
the you know, of people who are on different sets
with different celebrities. They go from you know, different sitcom
(23:16):
sets to different movie sets. I've got a lot of
those also celebrities when they were young, then celebrities as
they're older, and some of them have passed away. I
get a lot of those. So these are images that
are being created by AI, and the most viral set
of images that have become an AI video most recently
(23:40):
are associated with the fifteen second AI video of Tom
Cruise and Brad Pitt. It's incredibly good.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Have you seen it? Yeah, I've seen it multiple times. Unreal.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
It's it's a fight between these two and you know again,
it's like a movie fight between these two incredibly well known,
high profile celebrities. So we know what they look like like,
there's no fudging that, and it's crazy, and they look
like they've been like fighting for a couple hours exactly.
(24:17):
They're all carved up. Yeah, it's crazy. And this is
used Apparently this was created using a two line prompt
in a progrime called Sea Dance two point zero. It's
an AI video generator owned by Byte Dance, that Chinese company.
(24:38):
The same company developed TikTok, And there have been any
number of postings around this basically saying this is trouble
for Hollywood because you're able to generate this fifteen second video,
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and if you were to put some money in time
behind it and some manpower behind it, you could generate
a whole film this way. And this same guy who
created this hair fighting again in sort of what is
a kind of classic movie fight sequence also posted a
(25:21):
thread showing different prompts like Brad Pitt fighting a zombie
ninja or both of these guys Pitt and Tom Cruise
fighting over the Epstein files. I mean, it became this
thing that he just worked with, and those who are
(25:41):
high profile in Hollywood, like the writer of Dead Bull
and Wolverine Rhet Reese. Rhet Reese said, I hate to
say it, but I think it's likely over for us now. Again,
there might have been a quality of like playing around
when he says that, but it definitely is real and
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the technology is only going to become more refined. In fact,
Rees said, in next to no time, one person is
going to be able to sit at a computer create
a movie that's indistinguishable from what Hollywood now releases. True,
if that person is no good, the movie will suck.
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But if that person possesses Christopher Nolan's talent and Christopher
Nolan's taste and someone like that will rapidly come along.
It's going to be a tremendous movie completely generated by AI.
Then he went on to say that AI tools could
empower young people who may feel locked out of the industry.
(26:45):
It may give them a technology that will lift their imagination,
also saying many writers and executives are already using the
technology of AI, but they're not admitting it. He went
on to say, and again, this is the writer of
Dead Bull and Wolverine. Hollywood has long been a gatekeeper
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that comes along and keeps young, poor people away from
creative levers. When a young person with no capital sets
out to impress Hollywood, they will use tools like these
like AI, and young Chris Nolan's will be among them,
and amazing stuff will result, he wrote. And then he
(27:30):
went on to say, I suspect and I could be wrong.
He said that many screenwriters are using AI already heavily
in their writing, and many execs are using it heavily
in their analysis of writing. So hilariously, all the people
are sitting back watching as AI critiques what AI just created.
(27:54):
He says, Just to be clear, I'm not at all
excited about AI encroaching in creative endeavors. It's terrifying. So
many people I love, he says, are facing the loss
of careers they love. I myself am at risk, says
the writer of Deadpool and Wolverine. When I wrote it's over,
(28:15):
I didn't mean to sound cavalier or flipping. When he
says it's over for Hollywood, he said, I was just
blown away by the pit Versus cruise video because it's
so professional. That's exactly why I'm scared. My glass half
empty view is that Hollywood is about to be revolutionized,
slash decimated. If you think the pit Versus cruise video
(28:39):
is unimpressive slop, You've got nothing to worry about. But
I'm shook, meaning you're full of it. If you think
it's unimpressive, I mean, it's definitely impressive. When you can
sit back and be one of these posters on social
media and I can tell, I can tell it's ai.
I can tell. But what he's saying is, no, you can't.
(29:01):
It's incredible, and so something big is happening, is what
he's saying.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Now.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
He goes on to say, I mean, this is a
lengthy piece because it's so very important to the life
blood of Hollywood, and that's creativity. Writers, directors, visionaries. They
work with us. You know them, all the people who
didn't even write the script, but they are in charge
(29:32):
of bringing the script to life through lighting, through special effects,
through sound design. These are all critical aspects of the
motion picture world.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
He says.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
The debate about whether AI is really getting better or
hitting a wall, which has been going on for a year,
is over. It's done. Anyone still making that argument either
hasn't used the current models, has an incentive to downplay
what's happening, or is evaluating based on an experiment from
twenty twenty four that isn't relevant anymore. He said. I
(30:02):
don't say that to be dismissive. I say it because
the gap between public perception and current reality is now enormous.
The gap is dangerous. It's preventing people from preparing for
the future. This is again a Chinese AI service called
Sea Dance two point zero, and the Motion Picture Association
(30:23):
is not happy about these guys. They've said by launching
a service that operates without meaningful safeguards against infringement, Byte
Dance and again, they're the same people who created TikTok.
They're the ones who created the Sea Dance. They are
disregarding well established copyright law that protects the rights of
creators and underpins millions of Americans jobs. Byte Dance should
(30:46):
immediately cease its infringing activity. This is real and there
is real intellectual property here that's being infringed upon. But
what they can do is begin to create the eight
content that doesn't use existing intellectual property. And they'll do
it again, conceivably with one guy just at a computer keyboard.
(31:10):
It's a real scary future for so many brilliant minds
in Hollywood that have flourished in all the ways that
creativity is honored in Hollywood. I'm not talking about just
actors and directors. I'm talking about again, as I said,
all those people that help create those experiences. Now, this
is a wild time in this town. So a wild
(31:33):
time here at KFI. Beginning next week on Tuesday, Conway
moves to nights six to ten, John Colebelt from three
to six, Monks and Merrill from noon to three, and
before that Gary and Shannon and before that Bill handle
it all starts on Tuesday. I'll see you Monday night
(31:57):
for President's Day to round Offsidentnesday, because I am the
President of KFI and don't you ever forget it, my
friend Chief, Yes, Hailton the Chief. Thanks everyone, have a
great weekend. Chris Merrill next on KFI AM six forty
Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
It's KFI AM six forty and you're listening to the
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They jumped on the opportunity to help me out my
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So now all the other Dodge dealerships are romancing me
and I may end up at the Rye Del Dodge people.
They're in San Fernando. Also another great Dodge dealership in
San Juan Capistrano. So thank you those who called. And
also somebody says you want to reach the CEO of
that dealership. It's pretty great. Thank you everybody, and I'll
follow up as soon as we're off the air. It
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is KFI AM six forty. We're live everywhere in the
iHeartRadio app. Our audience is so terrific. Mark Thompson sitting
in for Tim Conway Junior next week. Conway moves tonight,
So it'll start on Tuesday from six to ten and
your daytime will change up ever so slightly with the
real Cool addition to the lineup, Monks and Merrill from
(01:07):
noon to three and then on at three o'clock. It'll
be John Colebelt. He'll be three to six, and then
Conway comes on. Of course, prior to that it'll be
Gary and Shannon. Before that it's handled. So this this situation,
it's funny we're talking about Chris Merril too with with
Michael Munk should begins next week on KFIN because I
(01:29):
think you Chris Merrill, who just walked into the studio
and I just try to corroud you with Sharon, you
talk to the sheriff who is involved with this Nancy
Guthrie disappearance.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Yeah, yeah, Well I was not in Phoenix, and so
there were, you know, stories that would pop up out
of Pema County, which is a Tucson area, and so
he was. He's very uh it makes himself available to
the media pretty easily. He's not like hearing Bass. I mean,
it's a like you, if you call Chris Nanos, he'll
come on with it. He's pretty media savving in that regard.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
I mean, I doubt he's ad the case quite as
demanding as this one, though.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
And there's a lot of eyes on him.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
There's a lot of criticisms, especially when it comes to
things like not sharing some of the evidence with the
FBI to take that to Quantico to get it tested. Instead,
he wants to send it to his own private lab
in Florida. And I don't know exactly why he would
shut the FBI out. Whether there's a mistrust with the FBI,
I don't know. Maybe there's a contract that he has
(02:25):
with the Florida lab. I don't have any idea sure,
So I'm not really sure. But I did see now
the breaking news that we're seeing it on the on
the the Chiron's on all the TV stations that Sheriff
Natal says, we have DNA, we just don't know whose
it is.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Well, here's what I do know about once you have DNA.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
We saw this with the Golden State Killer was the first,
the first one, right and Mark, you and I talked
about this when it was breaking back in the day,
and and that is that now you can triangulate it
using some of the familial DNA through those those commercial
companies that are out there. So I think we might
be at a matter of time at this point.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
I mean this is days now.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Sharon and I were talking about the fact that it's
so long now into this entire thing, and there's been
no proof of life. Generally, kidnapping situations are accompanied by
some proof of life and some sort of ransom demand.
And I get that there was that ransom demand that
came through the local TV station.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Seemed like a low number. Honestly in terms of what
they were asking. I don't know it was.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
This thing has a lot around it, and as I say,
still no proof of life, a lot around it that
I can't quite fit into sort of any existing kidnapping narrative,
you know, which is.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Really interesting that you say that, because one of the
things that I'm going to talk about this evening too
is how we're all sort of taking the little bits
and pieces of the story that we do know, and
we're trying to have an understanding of it within our
own minds, like we're trying to reconcile using only limited information,
what could possibly be going on. And to your point, yeah,
that's a low amount. But then you hear about another
ransom demand. Somebody says it's two thousand dollars, somebody else
(04:01):
has a million, somebody else hays six million dollars, And
then we're left on the outside going what's fact, what's fiction?
And how do we reconcile that in our heads as
we watch this as spectators in the outside. And I
kind of feel bad for the whole Guthrie family because
here we are.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
I mean, obviously we feel bad, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
I mean, can you imagine if you're going through the
most difficult time in your entire life and then you've
got the whole country that's hitting up the Reddit boards
to talk about what you're doing.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Yeah, that's horrifun And you're also wondering have we done
the right thing? Should we have done this? And people
are constantly second guessing you. Why didn't they do this?
Why didn't they did that? Why didn't the authorities moved
the stuff to Quantico? Why is it going to Florida?
Et cetera. These are things like oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
I mean yeah, what about that. I mean, you as
a family are having to live these second guesses as well.
I think it's very, very tough. Now, let's just talk
(04:48):
about the case for a second, since you do know
this case so well, and Bellio please feel free to
chime in as well, and Crozier for that matter, et cetera,
and Staffus and everyone. But I I just that Merril
has this sort of glanular knowledge of the sheriff and
that area. There's there was an additional glove found, right
(05:08):
there are three gloves found, I mean, which is again
just an odd thing.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
I don't I can't quite square that.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
So this is where I think it's gonna be really
interesting because now they have an idea they have to
look for the three handed man.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Yeah, and then.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
They find out Well, but the question is where the
gloves come from? I mean, just because you found black gloves. Look,
if you go to my apartment right now, you're gonna
see I have a box of black gloves that I
use if I'm doing you know, whether it's house cleaning
or I'm working on my car, whatever it is. So sure,
what did those come from? The crime scene? You found
black gloves that could have been a landscaper who threw.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Them in the trail.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
And also how sloppy of a kidnapper who wore a mask,
who knocked out the camera, who did all those different
things to just discard his gloves so nearby. I'm a
little skeptical about how the gloves really fit into this
gay Yeah. Interesting. Interesting.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Also, the disabling of the ring camera was something that
he was trying to do.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
You were telling me about that, Sharon.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
I heard this one of the experts talking about this
on podcasts that the vegetation that was pulled, he walks up,
you know, looks at the doorbell, turns around, goes to
the vegetation. You could see him like kind of pulling
at it to see if it would fall apart. And
so some people are saying that possibly he put it
to like behind the ring doorbell the nest doorbell to
(06:24):
pull it off, because those come off with like a
little key that you can kind of clip him off.
And so I think that kind of makes sense that
he wasn't really trying to hide his face. You had
already seen it, that he was trying to pull.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
It off, Oh as a tool.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Yeah, yes, his vegetation as a tool, right.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
There was maybe a false hope, but it seemed like
a sort of legitimate hope that the video would yield
some sort of lead. But it doesn't feel as though
there's any hot lead that we've found out about anyway
through media.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
No. And I think that's mean the guy was wearing
a scheme mask.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
I mean, obviously we know they're saying it was a
white guy about however, tall sharing fellow.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Yeah, just a little feller, he'll tell you.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Compared to sixty three yeah yeah, so yeah, I mean,
how many how many guys are you know, white guys
that are five ten in Tucson.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
I mean it's a town that's got two million people.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
So I just think all show that we're talking about
the blood at the scene. She's an elderly lady, I mean,
eighty four years no proof of life. Like you said, Mark,
I think I'm I'm I've got a pretty grim you know.
I certainly pray that this lady is still alive. But wow,
that had four thousand calls into their into their tip line.
(07:45):
But again, you know those calls could be you know,
I'm guessing the majority of them are, you know, not
helping them for.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Well, you see all you know, lately they have all
these RN camera videos of people walking around in the
middle of the night with backpacks. There's been two that
they're looking at right now. So there are some leads
that I think releasing the videos has brought them.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
So they're offering a fifty thousand dollars reward for the
information on to one on her yew, it's up to
one hundred thousand. Now, yeah, anyway, that's the latest. There
is hope, there is DNA apparently, but the time sadly
has really clicked along. And she's a lady who needs medication.
She's eighty four. This is an insanely traumatic experience and
(08:28):
it would love that you know so much about it, Chris,
and look forward to listening to you tonight and in
your new time period next week.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
So thanks Marc, we appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Yeah, noon to three, Thank you, Sharon Bellio, And don't
go anywhere, Sharon Bellio, because you still have forty five
minutes of radio content to provide.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
You're listening to Tim Conwayjunire on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Let's see Monday's President's Day right. Conway will be back
for that.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
N'll be his.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Last show, so you definitely want to check that out
before he moves to Knights and Culba goes back to
that time period and as I say, Monks and maryl
before that, Gary and Shanna before that, and Bill Handler
before that. The AI domination game has led to many
saying that the world is truly in peril and an
(09:20):
AI safety leader said those exact words. The world is
in peril and has literally pushed away from the world
of AI. This is where he's spent the majority of
his professional life. And well, don't take my word for it.
Here's what's going on.
Speaker 6 (09:38):
Very positive experiences, there are significant concerns with safety, privacy,
and ethical standards. Doctor su Varma is Aboard certified psychiatrist
and author of the book Why do you think more
people are choosing the chatbots over over friends, family, and
professional doctors?
Speaker 7 (09:53):
You know, we used to think that it was because
of lack of accessibility, affordability, stigma, but gil this is
so fascinating. It's fear of judgment, right, and we feel
that this is a safe space that we can get
instant advice. It's immediate gratification and the need that there's
for constant support and reassurance. There's a lot happening in
(10:14):
the world and people are like, I just need a
quick go too. But there is a price, and it's
very important that we understand the limitations.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
Well, I hear what you say about the immediate gratification,
but I have friends who use it that say it's
actually very good that they will do you hear that
that they will put in specific conversations he said this,
I said this, he said this, what should I say?
And the advice it comes back they say is actually
very good and sounds tailor made for them.
Speaker 7 (10:37):
Right. But the problem is, Gail, that it is overall
very generic. It does not understand the context of your life,
your lived experience, your unique situation and background, something that
only a trained therapist, through interaction in real time with
somebody would say. There's also an objective part of therapy,
which is like what we call the mental status exam,
looking at somebody's grooming, their hygiene, how well dressed they are,
(11:00):
eye contact, their behavior, are they fidgeting, are they moving?
Are they pacing? You can tell so much about a
person face to face. There's also the ethical standards of
discrimination and bias, which we know a lot of the
LMS have. They don't understand the culture, the context, religion.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
With the LM.
Speaker 7 (11:15):
These large language models.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Are all right.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
If you have to ask what LLLM is and you're
hosting the segment, I mean, I don't know, did you know?
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Anyway?
Speaker 1 (11:22):
I'm sorry, I don't mean to be taking a cheap shot,
but to be fair, this is the deception. They talk
to you because it is a language model that does
learn how to interact with you. And they talked. And
by the way, LM, I'm not saying everybody should know it.
(11:42):
I just thought she should know it. She's hosting that segment.
But I do think that that it creates a seductive
kind of back and forth you end up talking. I
think I told the story here on KFI about mourning
the loss of a and not being able to get
over it three days later and being so overwhelmed with grief,
(12:05):
and I actually went on to AI and I described
in great detail, which is the way you need to
interact with AI. Generally, of course, you need the more information,
specific detailed information you can provide, the better response you'll get.
And this is not a vote for or against AI.
But I was so full of grief that I and
(12:29):
I talked to all my friends and there is a
quality of like, I don't want to burden anybody over
and I've been through it with my wife and I've
been through it with everybody, and I'm still overcome and
i can't sleep and I'm in tears and the loss
of this pet. So I mentioned this because I think
(12:50):
it's instructional. So I introduced all of these details about
how I was feeling, but also about my relationship with
the pet, how long the little French she had been around,
and how I'd interacted with her, and how she'd been
a part of this and that, and how the struggle
over her health care had involved a surgery and involved
false hope, it involved her coming through the surgery positively
(13:12):
and then losing her a day later. There was an
emotional ride that I wanted to tell you, and I
had no idea whether it was going to work for
the AI thing. I was just almost trying to unload it,
you know, so I'm trying to like just clear my
head of it. And what followed was a response from
the AI that was so and again, this is imaginary, right,
(13:37):
it doesn't it's a machine and it doesn't know me.
But the way it spoke to me, the way it
spelled out, Mark, I understand how long you'd known Frenchy,
I understand the relationship you had. I understand how difficult
this must be. I mean, I'm giving you kind of
a generic response. But then it used all of these
(14:01):
psychological grief related coherent ways to try to get me
through it, meaning it was a distillation of all that
stuff you would have seen in all the books about
grief and loss, and in that way, it's what I
needed to hear at that time. It's what I needed
(14:22):
to read. Now, maybe if I had just read a
chapter or two about it, I would have had the
same effect. But it was that language model to which
they've referred in this interview that sucked me in. And
you can say that was a terrific way to get
me past it, but it's also and this is what
(14:44):
the psychiatrist is saying, the danger is that you are
getting into a relationship with something that really doesn't understand
how to handle your psychological grief, how your psychological challenges,
your life challenge. Lee just actually proceed and it's giving you,
in a way canned answers, but they seem personal because
(15:07):
of the language model. I mean, if you've interacted with AI,
it's amazing. I mean, it just does feel like it's
really speaking to you. But what's rapidly happening is there
are a lot of people, younger people particularly, who have
succumbed to the advice of AI, and it's led to
(15:29):
some very dark places. So in a nutshell. That is
the AI problem, and it's leading to resignations at many
of these AI companies, high level resignations because they feel
the future of AI can be very dark. It's definitely here, though,
dark or light. AI is here to stay tops in here.
(15:53):
For Conway, we are KFIAM six forty live everywhere on
the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
You're listening to Tim Conway's Junior on demand from KFI
AM sixty.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
That's a super inside joke for all of you p ones,
all of you regular listeners. You know, it's the third
time that Steff has played that song today. I love it.
I busted him by accident. He had played a second
and now he's just rubbing it in. The Doobie Brothers, Yeah,
(16:26):
came out of the Bay Area. When I was up
in the Bay Area. Was a big deal back then,
steph oh Yeah, stefush I was on Bay Area TV.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
It was a big deal. Used to hang out with
the Doobie Brothers. Did you really uh?
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Their manager, that's quite different, a little different. Their manager
opened up a winery. You imagine, making all that Doobie
Brothers money. Then there was some big dispute with the
band when managers go back. Yeah, it was when when
(17:00):
hot managers go cold. It was really ugly. It was
so ugly that when I went back to the Bay
Area years later and I said, hey, what happened between
you know you and the Doobies, he said, oh, man,
I can't tell. He said, I want to tell you,
but I can. I signed a thing, and I mean
essentially he got you know, so I don't know what did.
(17:20):
I never did find out what happened. I'd heard rumors that,
you know, of all sorts of things, but clearly they
weren't happy with his management. I mean, there was a
huge lawsuit, but they were the hottest what was it,
would you say, seventies and eighties?
Speaker 3 (17:37):
A little bit late seventies eighties?
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Right, Yeah, there sound changed like when that song came out,
it wasn't Michael McDonald Doobie Brothers.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Then Michael McDonald showed up, and then you had to
maybe Tom Johnson, I think singing right there you go.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Yeah, interesting, this is Casey under the countdown your feet
on the ground. Yeah, they do be d he's taking
us number one on the Cinera Bank. The article that
jumped up, God don't want an't he great. You know
now they run I think like they're yeah, not even
find the stuff everywhere.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Yeah, they might even have it. I think they might
even have a station or a channel on iHeartRadio. They think, yeah, yeah,
it's great nostalgia. You know, Casey's Coast to coast.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Right, there's a if you can on YouTube, which I'm
you know now I'm on YouTube with the show.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
So now I'm on YouTube all the time.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
You can put in exactly what date, what Sunday or
a weekend you want, what week and then you could
find the Casey Caseum American Top forty for it.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
It's kind of wild. You know.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
There's a whole nostalgia thing, and it's fun to listen to.
But let me tell you, you think that you have more
patience for it than you do it doesn't, you know.
But hearing his stuff and here's talk ups, they're a
lot of fun. There's a miraculous anti aging vaccine. Apparently
there is an elixir I'm just reading about. This is
(19:05):
a vaccine that supposedly slows aging and cuts dementia risk.
And it is the shingles vaccine. I know you're saying,
wait a minute, that's the vaccine I've been putting off.
You know, there are two parts of the shingles vaccine.
You get one part and it may lay you up
(19:27):
for a little while, but or you know, you might
feel some effect or nothing at all. Then the second
part I've heard is the one that really lays you
out and can really make you feel bad.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
But if.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Shingles are a terrible disease, have you ever had chicken pox?
This virus is inside your body, and shingles is sort
of the reactivation of this virus, and it's debilitating with
nerve pain. And the first shingle shot that will help
prevent shingle was an six and it was a huge
(20:02):
win for the medical profession of public health. But what
they've found in the last year, there's been a stream
of studies showing that the shingles vaccine doesn't just prevent shingles.
They track specific biomarkers in sampling, and it's making a
(20:23):
case that there's a genuine cause and effect between the
shingles vaccine and anti aging, anti dementia treatments. Now, obviously
they're going to need to build these studies out. They'll
have to be a lot more investment and a lot
more researchers who are working on this question, But you
(20:44):
also need a lot of people to take the vaccine
who aren't taking it because of that thing I'm talking about,
which is that there's a reaction. Apparently the singles vaccine
is just something that people avoid because again people are
put on Look, you know, if you're fifty years old
or older, you're eligible or they recommend the shingles vaccine,
(21:06):
and I know plenty of people who haven't taken it,
myself being one of them. It's like, oh, I know
I need to take it, but I know it's so
Apparently it reduces the risk of shingles substantially. And once again,
there may be a correlation between this vaccine and the
(21:30):
essentially in early research it staves off it would suggest dementia.
It would be an amazing thing if they really can
show this correlation. But look, if you're fifty or older,
you need this anyway. For the most part, they recommend it.
As I say, it's very effective in keeping at bay
this horribly debilitating thing. And it may have the additional
(21:55):
effect of keeping at bay something that we all worry about,
which is somehow you know, mental acuity slipping away right,
full blown dementia anyway, It's that simple. It's the shingle
potentially anyway, the shingles vaccine. So I said I was
going to get it this past week and I didn't,
but I'm close. You know, sometimes you have to say
(22:17):
it a few times and then you actually do it.
I'm going to work out. I'm going to work out.
I'm going to work out, and then you work out.
So that's the latest on that development.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Have you seen the you're talking about AI before we
kind of talking about the heavy side. You know, the
way in which you can interact with AI, and it
has a it's a language model that allows us to
feel as though it's talking to us in really fairly convincing,
substantial and deep ways. But this is a different kind
(22:55):
of AI that you have no doubt seen on Instagram.
It's on social media everywhere. It's the way in which
AI generates images of celebrities. I get a ton of
the you know, of people who are on different sets
with different celebrities. They go from you know, different sitcom
(23:16):
sets to different movie sets. I've got a lot of
those also celebrities when they were young, then celebrities as
they're older, and some of them have passed away. I
get a lot of those. So these are images that
are being created by AI, and the most viral set
of images that have become an AI video most recently
(23:40):
are associated with the fifteen second AI video of Tom
Cruise and Brad Pitt. It's incredibly good.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Have you seen it? Yeah, I've seen it multiple times. Unreal.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
It's it's a fight between these two and you know again,
it's like a movie fight between these two incredibly well known,
high profile celebrities. So we know what they look like like,
there's no fudging that, and it's crazy, and they look
like they've been like fighting for a couple hours exactly.
(24:17):
They're all carved up. Yeah, it's crazy. And this is
used Apparently this was created using a two line prompt
in a progrime called Sea Dance two point zero. It's
an AI video generator owned by Byte Dance, that Chinese company.
(24:38):
The same company developed TikTok, And there have been any
number of postings around this basically saying this is trouble
for Hollywood because you're able to generate this fifteen second video,
(24:59):
and if you were to put some money in time
behind it and some manpower behind it, you could generate
a whole film this way. And this same guy who
created this hair fighting again in sort of what is
a kind of classic movie fight sequence also posted a
(25:21):
thread showing different prompts like Brad Pitt fighting a zombie
ninja or both of these guys Pitt and Tom Cruise
fighting over the Epstein files. I mean, it became this
thing that he just worked with, and those who are
(25:41):
high profile in Hollywood, like the writer of Dead Bull
and Wolverine Rhet Reese. Rhet Reese said, I hate to
say it, but I think it's likely over for us now. Again,
there might have been a quality of like playing around
when he says that, but it definitely is real and
(26:03):
the technology is only going to become more refined. In fact,
Rees said, in next to no time, one person is
going to be able to sit at a computer create
a movie that's indistinguishable from what Hollywood now releases. True,
if that person is no good, the movie will suck.
(26:24):
But if that person possesses Christopher Nolan's talent and Christopher
Nolan's taste and someone like that will rapidly come along.
It's going to be a tremendous movie completely generated by AI.
Then he went on to say that AI tools could
empower young people who may feel locked out of the industry.
(26:45):
It may give them a technology that will lift their imagination,
also saying many writers and executives are already using the
technology of AI, but they're not admitting it. He went
on to say, and again, this is the writer of
Dead Bull and Wolverine. Hollywood has long been a gatekeeper
(27:07):
that comes along and keeps young, poor people away from
creative levers. When a young person with no capital sets
out to impress Hollywood, they will use tools like these
like AI, and young Chris Nolan's will be among them,
and amazing stuff will result, he wrote. And then he
(27:30):
went on to say, I suspect and I could be wrong.
He said that many screenwriters are using AI already heavily
in their writing, and many execs are using it heavily
in their analysis of writing. So hilariously, all the people
are sitting back watching as AI critiques what AI just created.
(27:54):
He says, Just to be clear, I'm not at all
excited about AI encroaching in creative endeavors. It's terrifying. So
many people I love, he says, are facing the loss
of careers they love. I myself am at risk, says
the writer of Deadpool and Wolverine. When I wrote it's over,
(28:15):
I didn't mean to sound cavalier or flipping. When he
says it's over for Hollywood, he said, I was just
blown away by the pit Versus cruise video because it's
so professional. That's exactly why I'm scared. My glass half
empty view is that Hollywood is about to be revolutionized,
slash decimated. If you think the pit Versus cruise video
(28:39):
is unimpressive slop, You've got nothing to worry about. But
I'm shook, meaning you're full of it. If you think
it's unimpressive, I mean, it's definitely impressive. When you can
sit back and be one of these posters on social
media and I can tell, I can tell it's ai.
I can tell. But what he's saying is, no, you can't.
(29:01):
It's incredible, and so something big is happening, is what
he's saying.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Now.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
He goes on to say, I mean, this is a
lengthy piece because it's so very important to the life
blood of Hollywood, and that's creativity. Writers, directors, visionaries. They
work with us. You know them, all the people who
didn't even write the script, but they are in charge
(29:32):
of bringing the script to life through lighting, through special effects,
through sound design. These are all critical aspects of the
motion picture world.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
He says.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
The debate about whether AI is really getting better or
hitting a wall, which has been going on for a year,
is over. It's done. Anyone still making that argument either
hasn't used the current models, has an incentive to downplay
what's happening, or is evaluating based on an experiment from
twenty twenty four that isn't relevant anymore. He said. I
(30:02):
don't say that to be dismissive. I say it because
the gap between public perception and current reality is now enormous.
The gap is dangerous. It's preventing people from preparing for
the future. This is again a Chinese AI service called
Sea Dance two point zero, and the Motion Picture Association
(30:23):
is not happy about these guys. They've said by launching
a service that operates without meaningful safeguards against infringement, Byte
Dance and again, they're the same people who created TikTok.
They're the ones who created the Sea Dance. They are
disregarding well established copyright law that protects the rights of
creators and underpins millions of Americans jobs. Byte Dance should
(30:46):
immediately cease its infringing activity. This is real and there
is real intellectual property here that's being infringed upon. But
what they can do is begin to create the eight
content that doesn't use existing intellectual property. And they'll do
it again, conceivably with one guy just at a computer keyboard.
(31:10):
It's a real scary future for so many brilliant minds
in Hollywood that have flourished in all the ways that
creativity is honored in Hollywood. I'm not talking about just
actors and directors. I'm talking about again, as I said,
all those people that help create those experiences. Now, this
is a wild time in this town. So a wild
(31:33):
time here at KFI. Beginning next week on Tuesday, Conway
moves to nights six to ten, John Colebelt from three
to six, Monks and Merrill from noon to three, and
before that Gary and Shannon and before that Bill handle
it all starts on Tuesday. I'll see you Monday night
(31:57):
for President's Day to round Offsidentnesday, because I am the
President of KFI and don't you ever forget it, my
friend Chief, Yes, Hailton the Chief. Thanks everyone, have a
great weekend. Chris Merrill next on KFI AM six forty
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