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April 6, 2026 44 mins

In episode 250 of America Adapts, host Doug Parsons speaks with Dr. Thomas Zeitzoff, professor at American University and author of No Option But Sabotage: The Radical Environmental Movement and the Climate Crisis, to explore a question at the edge of today's climate conversation: what drives movements to escalate? Drawing on his research on political violence and environmental activism, Zeitzoff traces the evolution of the radical environmental movement—from sabotage in the 1990s and early 2000s to today's climate justice movement focused on mass protest and disruption. The conversation explores how tactics shift, what motivates activists, and why—despite intensifying climate impacts—we haven't seen a widespread return to more extreme actions. At the same time, a bigger question emerges: what actually works? As climate impacts become more visible, activism is evolving—but not all attention leads to progress. That's where climate adaptation enters the conversation. At the center of the discussion is a question that reframes the debate: If adaptation and climate response were working, would people feel pushed toward more extreme tactics? This episode doesn't advocate for extremism—but it does examine the conditions that can give rise to it, and how climate adaptation—if done well and communicated effectively—may help prevent it.

Key Themes Covered in This Episode

  • The evolution of environmental activism—from sabotage to modern climate justice movements
  • What drives movements toward more extreme tactics—and why that has shifted over time
  • The limits of disruption and whether attention leads to real-world outcomes
  • The disconnect between growing climate impacts and public/political response
  • Climate adaptation as a tangible pathway to reduce risk and build trust
  • The role of communication in making adaptation visible and building broader support

For Educators & Students

  • How social movements evolve under pressure and changing conditions
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