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July 29, 2021 62 min

This week, Brie debates one of America's foremost Black conservative public intellectuals, Brown University Economics Professor Glenn Loury. Is there overlap between conservative critics of liberal race politics lefty critics of liberal "woke" culture? Or does the conservative focus on fixing "Black culture" serve the same function as the liberal focus on "curing racism" to the exclusion of material interventions? It's a difficult but productive conversation. Stick around to the end at which point Professor Loury dishes on what it's like to be a Black conservative married to a Black "Bernie Bro," and how Brie can learn to date across the aisle.

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Produced by Ben Dalton (@wbend).

Theme by Nick Thorburn (@nickfromislands).

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